NationStates Jolt Archive

To save time I think I’ll just post at the top, that the main idea of the thread is that a NS gaming clan be formed. (Should have done this rather then write the whole thing….) if still interested read on all though it’s fairly basic.

I’ve been wondering for the last about 20 minutes what’s missing from Nationstates. Well the answer would probably be realism, and moderation (In Both ways.) I have always loved the diplomatic and political role-playing on NS viewing it as far more enjoyable then the usual slugfest all out full-blown war. (Although here you can develop personalities better and of course have far more detail in a war but still I would sacrifice quite a lot for mindless action.) Also in those twenty minutes I was reading a review of Medieval Total War 2, of course you’ve figured out where this is going by now.

My idea is that the political and Character building, at least my favorite part of NS, be Rped fully out on NS. Then of course we get to the battles which should come around only 10 minutes after diplomacy fails (Somehow…) It get’s a little fuzzy as what to do as other then full out battles, head on head, there aren’t all those other finer confrontations such as coups. In such games as TWM2 we would need a realistic economic system.

I have of course not played TWM2 as of yet and don’t know about online play. There are quite a few problems, but I’ve always looked up to NSers, as somehow a much more intelligent group of people, then say those on WoW. (No offense to those who like but in the first half hour as being a night elf I had 4 requests to takes various articles of clothing off. That happens only occasionally on Nationstates and with much more polite words.)

I would like to know what people think of this idea and if anyone would be willing to give it a try. There are many problems but I have a feeling most of them could be worked around. Another question if you think this is possible is different types of (Probably RTS’s but could expand to other areas) what games you would play against other Nsers.

Some off the top of my head are:

Any of the Total War games
Age of Empires (1-3)
Warhammer 40K and all it’s expansions
Star Wars Empire At War
Star Trek Orion Pirates
Rise of Nations
Warcraft Game (I believe it’s called frozen Throne but I could be wrong. My friend has it and is addicted, I think you can make entirely different Game types for it such as Halo Warcraft, Lord of the Rings Warcraft ect.)
Lord of the Rings Battle For Middle Earth
Empire Earth
Home World
Supreme Commander (Soon coming out.)

I realize I have a very narrow scope on these games, that’s why if anyone thinks this is possible I would like some help, I don’t play many Pc games.

I'd certainly propose to FPSes as well, as (being a vet of a gaming clan) they usually attract more attention.

sounds like a sweet idea, BF2!!!! yay that would be fun as well as all the games you mentioned. Just make the clan a multi game clan, so everyone is happy (to a certain degree atleast)

I'm down with that. :D

I'm down with that. :D
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Just thinking of you, I suppose you already own and have played beyond the normal limits of time and space, Warhammer Dark Crusade?

On FPS's they are a little harder to work in from the omnipotent God sort of view I was thinking of, and would take considerably more players, but I always liked BF2 (And now to a lesser extent 2142.)

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Just thinking of you, I suppose you already own and have played beyond the normal limits of time and space, Warhammer Dark Crusade?

On FPS's they are a little harder to work in from the omnipotent God sort of view I was thinking of, and would take considerably more players, but I always liked BF2 (And now to a lesser extent 2142.)

LOL! Indeed I have. I live for Dark Crusade and play it quite regularly. To find extra time to play the game, I pull out the Book of Lorgar and open a passageway into the warp.....

The new Warhammer: Mark of Chaos would be an even more detailed and better way to express our NS abilities. It is of course more suited to people interested in PT, but there it is.

The new Warhammer: Mark of Chaos would be an even more detailed and better way to express our NS abilities. It is of course more suited to people interested in PT, but there it is.

I've heard the multiplayer is almost completely unaccesible. :(

I would join for the Rise of nations.

I dunno, most of the aforementioned RTS games involve little in the way of tactical planning-- it's really about who can put more firepower/stuff in the right place or who can outproduce the other guy. I'd recommend a mod of a game like Steel Panthers: World at War, which is a turn-based, intensely tactical simulation of World War II done through various battle sequences. But eh, I dunno. I'm personally not that interested, but I thought that I'd throw that in.

On the other hand, there's stuff like A Modern World (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=455144)! That has moderation and skilled RP and all that fun stuff, and it needs members! Yay, shameless plug!

I have an idea: Hearts of Iron 2: Doomsday with the Modern Scenario mod!


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We should have this moved.

We should have this moved.

.....why?

Starcraft is the #1 RTS game played

Starcraft is the #1 RTS game played

It is damn good, but not the best.

.....why?

what does a gaming clan have to with anything related to II?

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Another good one would be Age of sail Privateers bounty, That does take some tactical genius, but is also a long and usually unplayed game.

As for moving this it would seem that more Rpers are here in II so more interest could be drummed up.

Hrm...maybe we should do some looking into other RTS games and decide on those who are good for certain scenarios...

BTW, Waldenburg, are you gonna reply in the WW2 rp? Or can I replace you?

Hrm...maybe we should do some looking into other RTS games and decide on those who are good for certain scenarios...

BTW, Waldenburg, are you gonna reply in the WW2 rp? Or can I replace you?

I have been looking into a few of the bigger ones. But of ourse I have only one of the games on my list at the beginning, so really it's not up to me at all.

As for WW2 the lack of response to my invasion and for that matter the lack of allied powers, dosen't give me much to Rp against. EDIT After thinking about it just quiting dosen't really help the problem although i would like to change my country to something more minor, away from Asia. I think I perfer Denmark if that's alright.

It is damn good, but not the best.

I wasn't saying that it is the best gameplay wise, I was saying that it is the most played RTS (closely followed by Warcraft).

if anything ask what games people have, and to save on trouble make it a multi-game clan so everyone is happy.

I have an idea: Hearts of Iron 2: Doomsday with the Modern Scenario mod!


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^Great game..But what's that modern scenario mod like?

I'm personally tired of seeing all these individual groups huddled together, and taking up the forum with all these closed threads. Like "Earth II-Closed" you know what I mean, it's making it harder for any yonger nation such as my self to get involved with anything.

Cool Idea. Ill see you all on WH40K: DoW: DC (thats a long acronym). Especially you Wanderjar!!

Add the Command & Conquer Series and I'm in. Mostly though I play C&C Renegade.

Any of the Total War games
Age of Empires (1-3)
Warhammer 40K and all it’s expansions
Star Wars Empire At War
Star Trek Orion Pirates
Rise of Nations
Warcraft Game (I believe it’s called frozen Throne but I could be wrong. My friend has it and is addicted, I think you can make entirely different Game types for it such as Halo Warcraft, Lord of the Rings Warcraft ect.)
Lord of the Rings Battle For Middle Earth
Empire Earth
Home World
Supreme Commander (Soon coming out.)

This sounds like a good idea.
I'm in for Medieval: or Shogun: Total War, AoE 2, Warcraft 3, and Homeworld.

I'd also like to recommend Starcraft for FT nations.

I personally would love to play AOE 1 or 2, or Civilzation 3 against other NSers. I have all three games plus the expansions, Rise of rome (AOE1), The conquerers (AOE2, Play the world (CIV3), and conquests(ALSO CIV3).

Yeah, I'm in with CivIV, AOE II (and expansion). Also think it would be fun to RP minor skirmishes in BF2, but that might be just me...

Yeah, I'm in with CivIV, AOE II (and expansion). Also think it would be fun to RP minor skirmishes in BF2, but that might be just me...

Minor skirmishes? heck, with Civilization's map editor, one could make a map of both nations, place cities, and RP the entire war.

Yes, you could, I mean use BF2 for minor skrimishes, sorry for the misunderstanding.

Yes, you could, I mean use BF2 for minor skrimishes, sorry for the misunderstanding.

I wasn't saying you couldn't. I got the point. I've never played Battlefield, and I'm not sure I ever will, it just doesn't grab my intrest.

I was expanding upon your point with what I knew. I haven't played Civ4 yet, but chances are, like civ3, it has a built in editor.

Using this editor, one party, preferably a neutral party, could set everything up, including type of landmass, and then all involved parties could lead their own civilization, from NS, on Civilization.

Some off the top of my head are:

Any of the Total War games
Age of Empires (1-3)
Warhammer 40K and all it’s expansions
Star Wars Empire At War
Star Trek Orion Pirates
Rise of Nations
Warcraft Game (I believe it’s called frozen Throne but I could be wrong. My friend has it and is addicted, I think you can make entirely different Game types for it such as Halo Warcraft, Lord of the Rings Warcraft ect.)
Lord of the Rings Battle For Middle Earth
Empire Earth
Home World
Supreme Commander (Soon coming out.)

I realize I have a very narrow scope on these games, that’s why if anyone thinks this is possible I would like some help, I don’t play many Pc games.

I've played almost all of the games above, and I believe that the only thing that fits the bill for a "diplomacy and war" kind of NS-gaming is Hearts of Iron II: Doomsday.

It is a world-map spanning Grand Strategy Game, where the player can take control of nearly every single aspect of any nation that existed between the years of 1936 and 1957, the time frame the game encompasses.

Diplomacy, treaties, and clandestine such and such exist, and is effective. Also, full-blown war is realistic and played out on a massive scale, in real-time.

Navies, filled with Great War relics and Nuclear-Powered Battleships of the class fitting for that nation, cabinets of historical leaders filled with the people that held those positions, but always with the option of change. It's wonderful.

I'm playing a game right now on my other computer, I'm the Soviet Union in 1945, and after having ended WWII through occupying Germany a year before, and invading Japan a few months ago, I've begun my invasion of China, a move which the United States lacked the backbone to oppose. I'm feelin' good. It's wonderful...

I have an idea: Hearts of Iron 2: Doomsday with the Modern Scenario mod!

Excellent....

So you want to make a clan of people from NS who play these games, or base off nations from these games?

Well I was thinking (although I hardly have any games so I won't be doing to much) that Nationstates would be used to Rp everything leading to war. Including land improvments cities built, railroads diplomacy ect. Then followed by a battle on some game or another once it turns to war. This way it would make the battle more realistic (Certainly in some ways, perhaps less in others,) and make them shorter. Then perhaps write a short summary of the battle back on the NS then move on.

BTW I read a review of Hearts of Iron, and as a resualt ordered it.