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The Kingdom of Krataerbech


ATTN: Military Contractors

The Kingdom of Krataerbech is seeking a military contractor to design a weapon for general production in the Kingdom. Krataerbech requires a modular assault weapon, including the following:

The ability to become a fully automatic belt fed weapon
The ability to become a semi-automatic defense weapon
The ability to become a long range sharpshooting weapon
An under-barrel grenade launcher
An under-barrel light weight shotgun
A retractable buttstock
An integrated bipod


The weapon should fire the 9.3 x 62 round, and the baseline varient should way no more than 5 lbs empty. Terms of payment to be discussed at a later date.

Signed:
David Asernoff
Secretary of Defense
Krataerbech

OOC: Yes, I know its a blatent rip off of the XM8. However, the XM8 is, for one, not a finished rifle, and two, not exactly what I wanted. I need a rifle that can fire the 9.3 x 62 round, not the NATO round.
Terms of Payment will probably include a lease for a naval base, or something along those lines.
Lineart is greatly appreciated, but in no way required.

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TO: Leadership of the Nation of Krataerian
FROM: Board of Directors, Shazbotdom Military Suppliers

We have seen your call for a new rifle and are prepared to deliver a weapon for you. Introducing the XR-01 "Crimson" battlerifle. In it's current form it can only do a 3 shot burst, but with a little modification to the electronic gas powered trigger, we can set it up so that it can do a single shot, tripple shot, and full automatic. It's currently designed to fire several different types of ammunition as it has interchangable barrels. This includes the ammo type that you are asking for (9.3 x 62mm Rounds) as well as the standard 7.62x51mm NATO round.

We can also include an attachment that connects to the bottom of the barrel for a grenade launcher and a specialy designed 5x to 10x computerized camera scope. With these modifications though, the price will jump from what it preveiously is to a slightly higher price as this is a gun design soley designed in the Dark Empire of Shazbotdom by Shazbotdom Military Research and Development.

It will come out, with the modifications, to roughly $4,825 per unit. Although as a first time customer, we will give you a 15% discount off of that price which will drop the full price to $4,101.25 per unit. We thank you for your consideration on our offer and hope to talk to you soon.


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To- whom it may concern
About- Military Contract
From- Zachyd Defense Contracter code name Mindstorm


We are contacting you about the assault rifle you wish for we call it the SOCAR it has 4 different variants by just changeing the barrel of the gun as you wished for it can be change from assault rifle to sniper rifle with a change of the barrel. you may also add a shotgun or a grenade launcher to it improving it enven more. Unloaded with no clip your extras it weighs 5lbs with new composit materials developed in the country of Zachyd.

If you have any further questions please contact us

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The Kingdom of Krataerbech

To: Board of Directors, Shazbotdom Military Suppliers
From: David Asernoff, Secretary of Defense

The Kingdom of Krataerbech is currently considering your offer, as well as a payment plan. However, we are still open to more offers.

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To: Zachyd Defense Contracter
From: David Asernoff, Secretary of Defense

We are sorry, but with out more information we can not make a decision regarding your weapon. Please add additional information. We hope you understand.

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The Kingdom of Krataerbech


ATTN: Military Contractors

The Kingdom of Krataerbech is seeking a military contractor to design a weapon for general production in the Kingdom. Krataerbech requires a modular assault weapon, including the following:

The ability to become a fully automatic belt fed weapon
The ability to become a semi-automatic defense weapon
The ability to become a long range sharpshooting weapon
An under-barrel grenade launcher
An under-barrel light weight shotgun
A retractable buttstock
An integrated bipod


The weapon should fire the 9.3 x 62 round, and the baseline varient should way no more than 5 lbs empty. Terms of payment to be discussed at a later date.

Signed:
David Asernoff
Secretary of Defense
Krataerbech

OOC: Yes, I know its a blatent rip off of the XM8. However, the XM8 is, for one, not a finished rifle, and two, not exactly what I wanted. I need a rifle that can fire the 9.3 x 62 round, not the NATO round.
Terms of Payment will probably include a lease for a naval base, or something along those lines.
Lineart is greatly appreciated, but in no way required.


OOC: its not actually that close to the XM8 which didn't have belt fed or semi automatic only options, if anything it would be closer to the Stoner 63 "weapons system", the HK G3/HK21 family or even the AR-15 horde.

Although i would suspect that from the round you specified and the weight you mention that you are really looking for a machine gun with semi auto and accurised versions as opposed to anything that could be vaguely considered an assault or battle rifle. I could have a stab at a custom design but i would doubt the particality of it.

OOC: Yes, I know its a blatent rip off of the XM8. However, the XM8 is, for one, not a finished rifle, and two, not exactly what I wanted. I need a rifle that can fire the 9.3 x 62 round, not the NATO round.
Terms of Payment will probably include a lease for a naval base, or something along those lines.
Lineart is greatly appreciated, but in no way required.
[OOC: Although I'm not the creator of this design, and it may not completely fulfill your requirements, I would suggest you check out the DR-83 21st Century Tactical Rifle (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=465863), designed by, produced by and sold by Doomingsland Defense Industries.]

Bah, the weapon is primitive. How cruel of Shazbotdom to sell anyone such a weak, inferior weapon.

OOC:
Actually the more i look at this the more it looks doable. It wouldn't be as ideal as a family chambered for a decent intermediate cartridge, but i should have a proposal ready later today, posibly with a quick line art.

Saint Logic Weapon Division is iterested in you contact. Our designers have designed a customised our SCAR platform and we have developed the SCAR-K/SCAR-SK platform. The SCAR-K and SCAR-SK are designed to be a completly modular weapon chambered in the 9.3X62mm. The SCAR-K comes in 2 formats; Standard and Marksman, and the SCAR-SK is the SAW variant
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SCAR-K (Krataerbech)
Caliber: 9.3x62MM
Overall length, standard configuration: 997 mm (38.3") max / 770 mm (29.6) min
Barrel length: 337mm (14.5") or 624mm (24")
Weight, standard configuration: 4 kg (8.8LBS) empty
Rate of fire: Semi Auto
Magazine capacity 15 round or 20 round

SCAR-SK (Shrike Krataerbech)
Caliber: 9.3x62MM
Overall length, standard configuration: 997 mm (38.3") max / 770 mm (29.6) min
Barrel length: 337mm (14.5")
Weight, standard configuration: 5 kg (11LBS) empty
Rate of fire: 500 RPM
Magazine capacity Linked

All SCAR-K are fixed in Semi-auto as requested. The SCAR-SK has a completly reworked upper reciver, so many of the marts are not interchangeable. The SCAR-SK also features a fixed bipod. All SCAR-K comes with flip up BUIS (Back Up Iron Sights)and Grip pod (Veritcal fore grip Bipod Hybrid).
The SCAR-K is compatable with Saint Logics EGLM (Enhanced Grenade Lauching Module) which fires a standard 40x46MM Grenades via a side swing breach. Also the SCAR is compatable with any Picatinny interface MASTERKEY 12ga Shotgun.


OOC: Thanks Crookful, I fixed the SCAR-SK.....

9.3 x 62 round? Rather massive, no?

I'd offer my rifle though it only qualifies for about 4 out of 7 requirements.

Here, I'm posting it anyway,

//:: The G2A4 Standard Issue Infantry Rifle ::\\

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Now available in two different Purchase Variants
Thumb-hole, and Pistol-Grip Stocks

They also may be purchased separately and assembled in-feild depending on users preference.

Caliber: 6mm x 49 mm Caseless Ammunition
Action: Gas operated, rotating bolt
Operation: Semi Automatic / 2 Round Burst / Automatic
Overall length: 38.58 inches
Barrel length: 22.80 inches
Weight: 7 Pounds Empty
8.2 Pounds Loaded
10.1 Pounds W/ Weight Rods Inserted (Discussed near the end of the abstract)
Reliability: The G2A4 has fired 40,000+ rounds without cleaning, nor failures and retained a perfect finish from when inserted in our lab tests.
Though battlefield conditions estimate 10,000- before needing to be cleaned, expect failures and jams.
Rate of fire: 800 RPM/1100 RPM
Effective Range: 800 Meters
Feeding: 30 round black polymer straight compact magazine (illustrated above), 50 round transparent polymer 6mm x 49mm straight magazine, or a 100 round transparent polymer 6mm x 49mm beta C mag.
Taking a step back into a more simple design, the G2A4 is a combination of G36K internals, HK53 externals, some bits from the G3 rifle, as well as original SL8 casing all rolled into one package that is able to fire 6mm x 49 mm, or 6.8x49mm (Popular Caseless round type) with a few field changes to the barrel and has a Safe-Single-Double-Auto Trigger Group. Also because it uses casless ammunition rates of fire as high as 1100 RPM are attainable though are never encouraged as misfires are constant due to heat build-up in the chamber causing the bare heat of the weapon to cause the bullet to fire rather than a strike of the case. Also a thin plastic laminate covers all bullets to make sure they are not fouled by water or other natural obstacles. So when fired this plastic laminate evaporates and is flushed out of the chamber as the gasses expand either out the barrel or above the barrel around the fore-grip gas release area.
Price for Export: 1,800 USD

//::Abstract::\\

This weapon was designed as the older G2A2 design was much to complicated for its small size. It was also decided that a more reliable, higher caliber, as well as larger capacity weapon per magazine would be required. Field stripping the older G2A2 was an extremely slow and hard process to the springs and complex roller recoil dampening system. Integerian Arms R&D was contacted again with these specifications to be done away with. They were, instead a super soft polymer butt stock pad was added to both the top for ones cheek and back for the arm. A much simpler method which dissipated much felt recoil. A more comfortable pistol grip was incorporated as well, and along with that; the G36 Bolt & Carrying mechanism was also incorporated simply because of its reliability. The gas used to operate the action is vented in the forearm, and not blown back into the action like the 'exhaust pipe' of the M16 gas tube; thusly expanding gasses, nor the evaporated laminates used in the caseless bullets acclimated by this weapon do not collect upon the bolt causing jams.

Also this weapon includes a small tungsten rod in the fore grip with a cast iron rod on the left side of the fore grip (Not in the illustrations above) which keeps the balance of weight in this weapon directly in the center, or with a turn of the knob distributes weight evenly to the front or back for the users preference/liking.

The weapon also sports a Picatinny/RAIL/Weaver mount along the top for a variety of accessories to be applied to the weapon including telescopic sights of ones choice. The iron sights are also revolutionary. Also note four prong flash hider reminiscent of the HK53 series, which hid its flash very effectively and it continues doing its job of effectively mitigating muzzle flash in the G2A4. As shown in the preview below, they make repetitive automatic, or single shot shooting a breeze because while the target is always in sight and because the crosshairs are always there to guide not obstruct view to the target.
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OOC:
-Outer-Heaven-: I hate to say it but there is a big problem with your LMG varient as your image has the operating rod from the gas system going through your belt feed system, the issue of where to put the gas tube is one of the slight more irritating parts of designing a gas operated modular weapons system, even the great Eugene Stoner had to revert to using a barrel/gas tube layout that could be turned up side down.

IC:
To: David Asernoff, Secretary of Defense
From: Karen Jenkins, Head of Sales, Crookfur Arms.

Dear Secretary Asernoff,
After carefull reveiw of your requirements and the revisiting of serveral of our previous projects we fell able to offer your a solution: The E5 Heavy Modular Weapons System:

E5A1 Basic rifle:
Round: 9.3x62mm
Rate of fire: 450rpm
Barrel length: 508mm
Overall length: 1104mm (stock extended)
Weight (gun empty): 5.2kg
Magazine capacity: 20rounds
Fire modes: Safe/Semi/Burst

The E5A1 rifle provides the on which the rest of the E5 family is built. In order to allow maximum modularity by simply changing barrels, feed units and trigger groups a roller delayed blow back operation was selected. The basic “receiver” unit houses the pistol grip, mechanism and the sliding stock and from this basis a range of weapons can be built. Construction of the receiver is from a single piece of steel which has been milled into shape, the hand guards and furniture from high strength composites and the barrel of a titanium overwrap with a Mo-Re liner. The basic E5A1 features both semi automatic and burst fire modes and fires its ammunition through a 20” barrel with a built in bipod. A full Rail Interface System (RIS) is fitted including a top rail running a length of the weapon plus side and lower rails on the forward hand guard. In order to help tame the fierce recoil a high efficiency muzzle brake is fitted.

E5B1 MG
Round: 9.3x62mm
Rate of fire: 800rpm
Barrel length: 635mm
Overall length: 1231mm (stock extended)
Weight (gun empty): 10.7kg
Magazine capacity: belt fed
Fire modes: Safe/Semi/fully automatic

For the machine gun role the E5B1 features a belt fed ammo feed system and heavy free floating 25” barrel with a quick change system and slightly sturdier bipod.

E5C1 Sniper rifle
Round: 9.3x62mm
Rate of fire: 450rpm
Barrel length: 635mm
Overall length: 1231mm (stock extended)
Weight (gun empty): 7.6kg
Magazine capacity: 5, 10 or 20 rounds
Fire modes: Safe/Semi automatic

For the sniper rifle a heavy fluted 25” barrel is fitted along with a self levelling bipod and a special match grade trigger assembly, as an option an adjustable stock can be fitted

You will note that we haven't Inculded specifications for your semi-automatic defense weapon varient as we are unsure as to how this should differ from the baseline rifle appart from the obvious semi autoamtic fire restritction.
We appreiciate that these weapons are heavy but we hope that you woudl understand a powerful roudn such as you require requires a hefty weapon to be tamed.

For your Grenade Launcher and shotgun requirements we would supply our AM5A5 40mm launcher (basically a AG36/XM320 with a digital fuze settign system) and our C3 shotgun or alternatively combine both roles in our AM5A3 20mm Multi-role Tactical Launcher.

As for prices these would obviously depend on the volume of the order and if desired we could supply a production license.

Yours Sincerely:
Karen Jenkins

Bah, the weapon is primitive. How cruel of Shazbotdom to sell anyone such a weak, inferior weapon.

OOC:
If you don't have anything to submit to him then don't post at all to bash other people's designs. I don't see you comming up with something to don't be ignorant.

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The Kingdom of Krataerbech

To: Board of Directors, Shazbotdom Military Suppliers
From: David Asernoff, Secretary of Defense

The Kingdom of Krataerbech has thoroughly reviewed your nations design, and is respectfully declining your offer. The Kingdom has found a weapon suitible for our needs, and will not be accepting any more offers at this time.

Signed,
David Asernoff
Secretary of Defense


OOC: Seriously A_B, was there any need for that?

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TO: Leadership of the Nation of Krataerian
FROM: Board of Directors, Shazbotdom Military Suppliers

No problem. We hope that the weapon you picked works well for your needs. May the thunder of war only be interrupted by the loud music and partying of victory!

OOC:
If you don't have anything to submit to him then don't post at all to bash other people's designs. I don't see you comming up with something to don't be ignorant.

OOC: Or you could learn not to take IC posts so serious.

OOC: Or you could learn not to take IC posts so serious.

OOC: or you could S-T-F-U? and stop insulting other designs like a child. maybe please?

OOC: What you failed to catch is that I was not posting to insult anyone's designs but to characterise how advanced my nation is. If you decide you don't like my IC posts, tough, don't read them. They're called in character for a reason, because they are fiction.

OOC: What you failed to catch is that I was not posting to insult anyone's designs but to characterise how advanced my nation is. If you decide you don't like my IC posts, tough, don't read them. They're called in character for a reason, because they are fiction.

OOC:a good character would then post some of there uber tech to prove how big there proverbial penis is. Not simply say "ha ha." So i respond this way....

IC: We laugh at A_Bs attempts at insulting all the others equipment, and yet has not shown his own. So we ask A_B to show them what make them better.

OOC:
And we are supposed to know this how? I don't see a factbook for your nation anywhere. Plus, you didn't label it as a "message" at all in your post. If you don't label it correctly then people will assume that it is OOC. Proper formatting helps quite a bit.

OOC: mods please close.

OOC:a good character would then post some of there uber tech to prove how big there proverbial penis is. Not simply say "ha ha." So i respond this way.....

OOC: And give away our military secrets? Bah.

And we are supposed to know this how?

OOC: Because posts in this forum are assumed to be in character?

We laugh at A_Bs attempts at insulting all the others equipment, and yet has not shown his own. So we ask A_B to show them what make them better.

Are you declaring war? Yes, I think you are. Fine then, if it is war you want, war you shall get. I'll get my troops ready right away.

OOC: And give away our military secrets? Bah.


OOC: fine in a [OOC] formate please.

[OOC: Although I'm not the creator of this design, and it may not completely fulfill your requirements, I would suggest you check out the DR-83 21st Century Tactical Rifle (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=465863), designed by, produced by and sold by Doomingsland Defense Industries.]
[OOC: Erm, Krataerbech.....]

Are you declaring war? Yes, I think you are. Fine then, if it is war you want, war you shall get. I'll get my troops ready right away.

OOC:war over asking for info on you nation and an obvious OOC reason :rolleyes:

OOC:war over asking for info on you nation and an obvious OOC reason :rolleyes:

OOC: We are militarily paranoid.

OOC: Why are people stilll posting here? I already said I found one that suits my needs.

And very mature A_B. Very.