NationStates Jolt Archive

ICCD invites business representatives to a business summit/symposium, in the OceanSide/Lake Side City of Lacus Prae. Feel open to propose any business arangements.

These meetings are open to all business persons and government representatives. Security will be HIGH RSVP or drop your business proposal to ICCD respective area Bailo.

VIP RSVPs will receive free lodging for the week of the symposium as well as customary meals. A special exemption on promotional materials will also be granted allowing items to be given away or returned without the normal tarrifs (that is goods that are gained at the symposium but did not originate from the person, or excess personal stock, that may be subject to tarrif if not personal property)

ICCD is primarily interested in innovate technologies and raw materials, but is open to all sorts of trade. There are major parties on the first and last nights of the these events. Tour packages for the 3rd, 4th and 5th days are also available for RSVP's.


Submit your trade proposal today.

Ah, Good Day,
We had been speaking privately about developing a wormhole gateway. We are willing to open testing at our facility in the Negev II System. This system is a military testing ground. Negev II is a dead system filled with radiation and the remains of a once space faring civilization reduced to radioactive ashes far before humans reached the spacefaring stage. There is no life except for our starbases. It is not on any starcharts and is barely visible using standard astronomical sensors.
We are willing to send you the coordinates for this system through a quantum tunneling encoded transmission. We ask that when you enter the system, you use only focused masked transmissions. There is currently no background noise emanating from this system.
We would like to build a wormhole gate between Preservation Station and the Negev II system. Preservation Station is in deep space and maintains silence. It exists to preserve our knowledge and genetic heritage and store backups in case we are overrun by an alien or hostile force. We ask that all work be done in utmost confidentiality.

Regards,

Strategos Sharp

Howdy! I'm Jeff, representing Shipstone Inc. Our company is the number one energy provider in Raleia. We produce energy so efficiently that we're effectively a monopoly in Raleia and close to gaining 80% market share on Luna City and Proxim City (both off-planet). Our method for extracting energy is unpatented but is kept confidential. We would be happy to supply energy (and manpower from the Stone & Speaker Construction subsidiary) for very modest sums. As a pilot project, Shipstone Inc. could supply energy to Lacus Prae for three months at an extremely low blanket cost of $500 million.

Thanks!

Delivered by personal courier, with a neural memory chip.
- the person is relayed to a secure location where they initaite their neural chip.
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Greetings,

ICCD research and development via ESI have been looking over information relating to the wormhole project Negev II System. ICCD is willing to allocate a number of our researchers and support staff to near the location, as well as a number of transports and support craft; however, we will await transport or further details on your operations requirements, and will conduct background research nearby the system, until at the needed time entering the system is required.

As you may be aware ICCD's homebrewed N'u't Nexis was constructed via a subspace weapons detonation, with a number of other occurances in relation to create the spacetear. There is a number of classified "follow up" tests schedueled by the ESSI space security forces branch; however, there have been other developments in ICCD's space technologies, specifically foreign exchange of a number of space technologies.

ICCD has yet to build a permanent point to point wormhole using specific extraspacial symetry and it is a worthwhile project as far as ICCD is concerned. The issue with the current N'u't nexis is in large part, the failure rate during transfer, and lack of information on the effects of the nexus.

Our researchers to date, see it more as a "stable n'u't" using some type of specific preencoded energy exchange pattern embeded in subspace itself using an ongoing energy transfer using m dimenionsal supersymetry.

Howdy! I'm Jeff, representing Shipstone Inc. Our company is the number one energy provider in Raleia. We produce energy so efficiently that we're effectively a monopoly in Raleia and close to gaining 80% market share on Luna City and Proxim City (both off-planet). Our method for extracting energy is unpatented but is kept confidential. We would be happy to supply energy (and manpower from the Stone & Speaker Construction subsidiary) for very modest sums. As a pilot project, Shipstone Inc. could supply energy to Lacus Prae for three months at an extremely low blanket cost of $500 million.

Thanks!

ooc: what timeframe are you in mt/ pmt / ft

lacus prae is energy abundant.. but the altus astrum could use energy supply due to the boom in the industry (both construction and mining, as well as a population migration)

energy import is very useful for the astrum, currrently antiquidated thorium reactors are being used to produced energy en mass, and an alternate means of energy production or energy supply at low cost is very useful.

Provided it is cost effective.




OOC: if this is PMT then

The 500 million in energy would need to be 0.5 cents / kWh or lower in production from value. (the tidal and damn wall generation facilities as well as fission reactors and methane buner sites create a huge energy abundance, in the main areas of ICCD) if the energy is transfered in a storable medium though ICCD is willing to store it at 0.5 cents / kWh but we are interested in inviting business. Provided the company locates this business section within ICCD and adheres to ICCD business laws. Thankyou for your interest.

We are more than willing to initiate a domestic production contract at 500 million for a supply at 0.5 cents / kW for an initial provision of 100 billion kW's or 100 million mW energy production.

It is hypothesized and scheduled for the third subspace detonation, set to occur no sooner than 10 years from now, that the method could be aiming the point of detonation at the extent of an already exist n'u't or one way open field point. That is if two open field points are merged then a two sided point to point wormhole should be brought into existance. The two main issues is, we don't know what the result of two collapsed subspace feilds making contact is, and we don't know how to find the exact point or how to direct a suspace weapons detonation at a specific subspace point, as there are still many things we do not fully understand about subspace, except that it utilizes n/m dimensions


ICCD-Intracircumcordei;11991960']Delivered by personal courier, with a neural memory chip.
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Greetings,

ICCD research and development via ESI have been looking over information relating to the wormhole project Negev II System. ICCD is willing to allocate a number of our researchers and support staff to near the location, as well as a number of transports and support craft; however, we will await transport or further details on your operations requirements, and will conduct background research nearby the system, until at the needed time entering the system is required.

As you may be aware ICCD's homebrewed N'u't Nexis was constructed via a subspace weapons detonation, with a number of other occurances in relation to create the spacetear. There is a number of classified "follow up" tests schedueled by the ESSI space security forces branch; however, there have been other developments in ICCD's space technologies, specifically foreign exchange of a number of space technologies.

ICCD has yet to build a permanent point to point wormhole using specific extraspacial symetry and it is a worthwhile project as far as ICCD is concerned. The issue with the current N'u't nexis is in large part, the failure rate during transfer, and lack of information on the effects of the nexus.

Our researchers to date, see it more as a "stable n'u't" using some type of specific preencoded energy exchange pattern embeded in subspace itself using an ongoing energy transfer using m dimenionsal supersymetry.

What will most likely happen is that the two points will merge forming a stable wormhole. According to literature searches, we have found instances where it is possible to merge an existing wormhole gate, with another wormhole gate forming a wormhole nexus where there are multiple tunnels to different locations. This is not something which we are attempting to do at this time. It may be possible in the far future, but not now. We are focusing on creating an initial gate.

It may be possible to also modify some of the principles we have already learned in the Heim drive to create a torus ring which uses a different kind of electromagnetic frequency and energy to open a gate between two points.

http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:dZhwUsMkzgwJ:www.nidsci.org/pdf/davis_mufon2001.pdf+merge+alcubierre+warp+drive&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=7

There are further instances while not directly related to subspace fields, that show that two warp fields can interact to form a larger warp bubble without exploding. We have some questions on the validity of this article, but it may contain some hope that there may be slightly less danger in merging the two fields.

We would be willing to test some of the more dangerous systems at the opposite edge of the Negev II system from our starbase. It is a practically dead system.

ICCD-Intracircumcordei;11992029']ooc: what timeframe are you in mt/ pmt / ft

lacus prae is energy abundant.. but the altus astrum could use energy supply due to the boom in the industry (both construction and mining, as well as a population migration)

energy import is very useful for the astrum, currrently antiquidated thorium reactors are being used to produced energy en mass, and an alternate means of energy production or energy supply at low cost is very useful.

Provided it is cost effective.




OOC: if this is PMT then

The 500 million in energy would need to be 0.5 cents / kWh or lower in production from value. (the tidal and damn wall generation facilities as well as fission reactors and methane buner sites create a huge energy abundance, in the main areas of ICCD) if the energy is transfered in a storable medium though ICCD is willing to store it at 0.5 cents / kWh but we are interested in inviting business. Provided the company locates this business section within ICCD and adheres to ICCD business laws. Thankyou for your interest.

We are more than willing to initiate a domestic production contract at 500 million for a supply at 0.5 cents / kW for an initial provision of 100 billion kW's or 100 million mW energy production.

OOC: PMT means? Sorry I haven't RP'ed here for a few years :S

The energy can be stored easily, but we would have to install the first few storage systems and then license the patents/plans for them to you.

Altus Astrum can be supplied easily. But, we'll have to send a few military ships to escort our energy-producing and transporting ships. We'll setup an office there as well. We are in talks with the Raleian government to ensure a diplomatic office will be setup before we begin any energy exchanges. The price will be 0.6 cents / kW but we can reduce that after the first few months. The price is that high because of the talks with the Raleian government, the Luna City representatives in particular are vary of other mining colonies and need more grease on their palms if you understand me.

The concern Dian scientists have is the "tug" on the universe. Although it may appear insignifcant it is theorized the longer the distance the more of a spacetime "tug", it creates. It is equivlent to changing a center on a top. While a jump gate, or jump drive, may effect the tug for only a small fraction before correction, a permanent gate, would appear to be a constant tug or dent, in the gravity relation and ongoing in subspace, based on our limited knowledge create more and more of a m/n particle feild, the alignment of the wormhole is also important, and the method of it functioning. For instance converted dust in an alternate m/n array would need to be flushed from the worm hole, but what this requires is questionable, except in that it needs some type of flatlined m/n stream equal to the maximum extent of all m/n conversions. This means that every point of symetry within the worm hole has to be cleared prior to "defined state" things, even living things from safely being transported. Otherwise any m/n matter or phased matter could become "interlaced" if the conversion is not stable wholely.

The thing is the path that energy travels, and the specific gravity in the pathway. Depending on the composition of energy and the method of interchange from each unit.

This deals with the fundamentals of motion, the question of what exactly is motion.

we can say that space and a specific state of energy occupies a different location in spacetime. Each degree of occurance occupies a different place. When things form from the base components there is a folding in spacetime. The components themselves when forming larger structures or more complexs folds then allows distance to be preceived when the anima or spirit of the actions cognizes the sensory perception.

This means that in order to create a gate you have to "unfold" the specific location. then to utilize the gate you have to make a conection with the degree of occurance.

This can be summed by theories of gravity and heat. gravity accumulates mass, because 'gravitrons' or what may be is an anima or folding at a specific rate of energy. While some energy will have folding other energy unfolds gravitronically.

This can be said of thermo mechanisms where heat may be caused by an accumulation of mass in a specific field also the the heat field itself is also an anima or a conveyance of a steam of energy.

Energy itself if taking the fundamental forms of energy is a combination of these. So to say for instance the spin of quarks is a type of representation of the folding in spacetime. However "reality as a whole" is a folded linear point.
with anima it becomes linear, then with point to point lineaer folding it becomes multi dimensional in way of qualitia of a specific occurance of energy. While saying that a common unit of energy exists for everything, this is not the complete case, in that each point of energy has a minutely differing overall quality, but with commanality based on the specific trade of the point in the overal linear occurance.

So to summarize the key to the worm hole is in creating a specific translation of the point of state and by controling the animal to create a static "gate".

To do this effectively you must recognize the specific points, once the animal field is controlable and the specific points are defined, in order to make a conection to the next point, would only require utilization of the correct form of anima, to translate and initalize the "gate" to transfer using the symetry of the linear superstring. However the key issue beyond making the gate, is transfer of each "thing" which is like a giant rubix cube. you have to use the correct form of anima at every point of the transer OR create a very small geometric gate in the two points of space using a static anima and a anima field to make the gate usable in a nuetral sort of way, so that the stuff entering it arn't just distintigrated or beyond, when making contact with the field. Thing of a black hole a a whitestream, but then make it so that the stream phases into other dimensions of spacetime in a n/m array.

Essentially it is like warp fields but there is a slight difference with a warp field and a m/n wormhole. the difference is, a warp field is a localized effect, the tug moves. In an MN wormhole, the tug doesn't move, spacetime does.

Our researchers may require some more time, as stated Dian research was a decade away from even attempting a merger, and the n'u't nexus, is still beyond our understanding in full, as we know that it is a one way doorway to anywhere but utilizes the anima in each individual to translate an exit point, but at no instance is the individual the same combination and to understand each linear point and the stream of linear points as a supersymetry is rather ambiguous and a system to trace it is much like the old electron calculation rules as far as motion and position.

More to come

If you are ready to test something we are very keen on observing the test, we will inform you when we have a working system.

There are a number of clasified projects involved in reverse engineering alien technologies, these projects will hopefully uncover somethings we do not yet know and aid to the reserach we are undertaking.

Scion Shihan Trast Xia

OOC: post modern tech.. ICCD has modern, post modern and (early future tech) aspects, each is played independant of one another.

IC:

The Bailo transmits to the Raleia representative via vid screen -
"0.6 cents for the first few months is o.k. as long as it comes down to 0.4 by half a year and 0.3 by the end of the year. Independant military ships are welcome, we ask you identify all ships entering the area though, for safety measures. The contract can be renewed of course if it is viable long term. There are some Dian Space Security forces to assist you if there are any issues. The systems as are, are generally quiet, with a very minimal ammount of foreign trade (out of local systems), only a few companies here and there. "

"If you happen to know of any other interested companies by all means send word down the line, as Iccd is actively recruiting foreing business. ICCD doesn't utilize patents or copyrights as all intellectual property is considered state domain, with specific reservations, such as royalties paid direct to the source from the state, in cases where the intellectual design is in use. Also great benifits to the state receive awards, and special bonuses. "

"It is seen as best if open trade and industry is allowed by taking away the roadblocks to free enterprise, while the GST is used to run vital government services and compensate the individuals who put the most into the states well being. For small ammounts, social credits are granted, and for larger contrabutions a maximum of 4 million dian credits is granted to the inventor or artist / year depending on current holdings, which are capped at 4 miion dian credits."

"The secretariat in consulation with an interior division board, determines which invention filings in the state invention archives are in use, in large part with assitance from the tresury department but also HRD and Infrastructure services records. Each items is evaluated classed, and finally it goes to public vote. With individuals allowed to allocate a specific fraction of social credits to each thing they value. the government award + the public award is then given to the individual who filed the state invention record in the archives. "

"Trade marks/names are handled by the tresury departments and branding is protected in manner to protect against fraud, defamation, or 'confusing use'".

"works of art are freely duplicable, and can not be protected, since artists reproduce from thought in concept of a trade or craft regardless, and recreation is much like creation in that it is free. the duplication of digital art once again like all information can freely be transfered, except in cases of fraud, defamation or confusing use. Since profit is secondary to social benifit, these barriers were, removed long ago. ICCD has specific mechanisms for providing social welfare for all citizens, and provides a mechanism for the public and the state, to reward, artists and other cherished individuals. no one will starve, and art ect.. is seen as a a passtime"

"so be sure to file your patents with the archives and you will be compensated accordingly for your contrabution at the end of each quota period.

This is rather interesting. Then you would probably have to have a permanent array of energy collectors which powered some kind of sweeping craft which would clean the tunnel and check for damage after each jump. I am not sure how you would repair the wormhole. Also the tunnel would have to be sealed at both ends by some kind of door or iris when not in use to ensure that stray material did not enter the wormhole while it was not in use.

We have salvaged the remains of a solid titanium iris which could conduct the energy of the gate, it was sitting on Negev II, but sadly only the iris was left and none of its other mechanisms having been destroyed in an ancient battle of some sort. There may have been symbols on the iris, but these have long since corroded away, leaving only the sealed iris. The iris is only 23 feet across, but its function may have been some kind of gateway, we are not currently sure. The site is exceedingly difficult to inspect with large amounts of surface radiation, a poisonous atmosphere, and winds of over 300 mph.

The iris idea is the right way to go as far as keeping the transfer conduit "clean", the thing is though mater is issued since it can't actually make contact with the gate, so the iris would have to be a fraction of the smallest spec of energy away from the gate, a relative imposibility. If it made contact with the gate, then it would phase. The gate itself is 1 baseenergypoint "thick" and has a varied hieght or width. The best option for an iris is to have a repulsion feild acting over the area or sealing it, using a "collapsing feild". The same technologies used in jumpdrives. Actually using a warplike field to "warp" the gate into subspace itself. To create a repulsion feild and a subspace phase field. The cleaning itself could be done if it was posible to scan each point of the linear movement or read the current symetry of the strings. The idea of a cleaning craft or "wormhole tug" is interesting. Essentially each craft including the tug in lead is cleaned prior to entering the gate, the tug "tests the water and guides the other ships".

The worm hole would need to keep realigning itself by augmenting the overall symetry of the whole components so they do not go out of sync. This would be much easier done, then figuring out the required energy to construct the linear subspace symetry wormhole, which would be "constructed" by aliging the energy based upon it's innate point in space, in terms of the heierarchy from point-linear to folded 3 dimensional space. Utilizing the 3rd dimension and phased subspace m/n dimensions to transfer the point linear arrangement for 3d objects augmentation to subspace m/n dimensions, or phasing of the 3d normal space objects to alter3d subspace objects.

If obeying the laws of physics in order to repair the wormhole all you need to do is apply an identical opposite force or send the same energy / anima back.
so it is like a 0 energy displacement system, for homeostasis of the whole. The other issue is that the hole will accumulate alter3d mass in subspace, or be a "subspace sinkhole".

We need to figure out a way to repulse subspace matter.

The titanium door can be used for cosmetic purposes.. and as a shield for the energy stream.


We can send a survey to the surface, poisonous atmosphere isn't much of an issue as long as it isn't also highly acidic. The radiation does pose a bit of an issue though, we could send a number of large surface explorers that are radiation sheilded, but it appears as a bit of a side track. However for security reasons, it is advisable to make sure all locations in the proximalty of the experiment are safe.

Part of the issue is the compuational power and energy systems required to construct the gate and the conduit itself.

IC: Secret, Eyes Only

Recent military research in the area of Negev II into the effects of graviphotons one of the key components of both the Alcubierre Warp Drive and the Burkhard Heim Drive has revealed the presence of a particle created during experimentation called an anti-graviphoton. These can be charged and held in an electromagnetic field similar to a Heim field creating a charged repulsive gravity field that drives particles away from the field, gravitic shielding. This could be generated by a very large torus covering the entrance of the wormhole effectively blocking the entrance of the wormhole.

We may be able to provide solar concentrator satellites, and a decent amount of advanced sonofusion generators.

Exploring Negev II would be quite an endeavor. We have sent teams down to the surface, for brief periods. There are left over genetically designed killing machines, mines, old ordinance, nanite goo, corrosives and a variety of other horrors still left over from an ancient war. In one instance we had to destroy a returning teams shuttle because it contained a gene changing disease which we could not cure. There are a variety of potential archaeological sites, but there can be no guarantee of safety. Be prepared to quarantine any returning teams.

ICCD-Intracircumcordei;12001752']OOC: post modern tech.. ICCD has modern, post modern and (early future tech) aspects, each is played independant of one another.

IC:

The Bailo transmits to the Raleia representative via vid screen -
"0.6 cents for the first few months is o.k. as long as it comes down to 0.4 by half a year and 0.3 by the end of the year. Independant military ships are welcome, we ask you identify all ships entering the area though, for safety measures. The contract can be renewed of course if it is viable long term. There are some Dian Space Security forces to assist you if there are any issues. The systems as are, are generally quiet, with a very minimal ammount of foreign trade (out of local systems), only a few companies here and there. "

OOC: 'k, I think this would be post-modern, it's based on some of Robert A. Heinlein's books (Friday and the Future History collection of stories).

IC:
Shipstone Inc. representative Jeff's response:
"Sounds like a fair deal, and we'll be sure to tell our subsidiaries about the business opportunities in your territories. The reduction in price is reasonable and should cover our...extra expenses. We'll be sending 5 power-container ships and, *a rumble is heard in the background*, there goes one now. We'll also be sending 4 military ships which are under strict orders to identify themselves and to not fool around. A survey team is on-board one of power-containers and on another ship, the diplomatic team from Raleia is on-board wining and dining. I have a feeling this contract will go smoothly."

Interesting facts: Power containers can produce 1million units of energy every 24 hours and can store 1million units (a Shipstone Inc. secret, curiously un-patented). The energy can be transmitted via radio signals (very slow) or can be transported by other container ships. They operate with 30 to 50 personnel: a crew of at least 15 that includes safety workers, psychiatrists and medical staff, and the actual maintainers of the equipment. Computers do much of the work, but trust in them has never been solid.

Other interesting facts: Military ships from the Stone Security Company (a subsidiary of Shipstone Inc.) are outfitted with the latest in protective shielding and their weaponry includes old-fashioned machine guns (never underestimate a tiny projectile heading very quickly at your life support systems) and high-tech laser guns (which have only been used on hostile targets 10 times in all of Stone Security's 30-year history). Stone Security ships can carry 50 to 100 men (and women) depending on which of the three classes the ship is.

OOC: if any of that seems impossible, please tell me ;)

oh it fits into my around mid PMT iccd (like around 2060-2100) (stuff that shadowrun type stuff, mutants in orbit, etc.. ) It would be a rather long trip to the astrum (missions there and back are around 5 years using ICCD's most advanced technologies of this time), in travel time is cut drastically depending on the technology used (iccd has foriegn jump drives, but isn't able to produce new domesetic modles as of yet, but it is reasearching the technology. it uses a jump gate (a space rift called the N'u't' nexus to do long distance travel but it has a high mission failue rate. (like the first flights of airplanes in the early days of propelled mechanical flight)


It is posible to generate quite a bit of energy. A kinetic space slingshot is a technology that harnesses energy from ships arivals in dian space ports. it is like slamming into a big harness, which strethces and transferes the kinetic energy like a kevlar vest, after many KM of transfer the energy can then be reversed, this is how, the old dian space craft manage to maintain fast misssion rates. (some extra info) (in the pmt era.. essentially the object falls into the objects operational area, then starts both a web kinetic energy transfer and angular and centrafugal motion.. to turn the vehicle around, harnessing energy then distributing it for various usages, and directing a new flight path (FT is a little less crude) also payload dumps can be used this way.. the speed and slowdown is the main issue and having mass to throw out during ionic impulse slowdown (which takes months)

It is reasonable a large ship with 10 or more thorium reactors would pump out a lot of energy.. so whatever method you are using is likely to produce quite a bit.

nebula gas plants are able to produce large ammounts of energy.. unfortunately the one gas cloud in our near systems doesn't have anything else nearby