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RUN-Emirate Conference [Earth V only - closed]

Alif Laam Miim
21-11-2006, 16:54
With the Royal Hajj done, the Emir made haste to Jiddah, and to Crete. In all the trip passed about 48 hours, including the preparations for the RUN delegation to arrive in Knossos. With the preparations underway, he received word from Abd Al Qadir, on the progress being made in Sharina. Unfortunately, if he could persuade the RUN to desist, perhaps there was a chance, but given the complexity of the issue, and the insistent calls from his Foreign Minister, the Emir decided that America would remain off the tables completely, so as not to complicate this. Of course, the RUN were welcome to entertain ideas, but since the Emirate's unilateral declaration [done in his absence], there was precious little that the Emirate could or would do to resolve it.

Nonetheless, he felt very optimistic, seeing as the peace and trade accords in Sharina were going so nicely, it was very possible to conclude a similar agree with the RUN, as long as they were open to the talks. And they have demonstrated a willingness to speak, so it would not be in vain that all of the preparations have been made.

[ooc: this is NOT a conference in general - this is strictly a bilateral conference between the RUN and the Emirate - so anything that pertains or concerns anything else besides what the delegates speak at this table is SIC knowledge only, until publicly pronounced at the end. As such, only the RUN and the Emirate are speaking here, so anything else - even [or perhaps especially] ic relevant material - will be ignored by both parties.]
United Earthlings
22-11-2006, 01:40
With the Royal Hajj done, the Emir made haste to Jiddah, and to Crete. In all the trip passed about 48 hours, including the preparations for the RUN delegation to arrive in Knossos. With the preparations underway, he received word from Abd Al Qadir, on the progress being made in Sharina. Unfortunately, if he could persuade the RUN to desist, perhaps there was a chance, but given the complexity of the issue, and the insistent calls from his Foreign Minister, the Emir decided that America would remain off the tables completely, so as not to complicate this. Of course, the RUN were welcome to entertain ideas, but since the Emirate's unilateral declaration [done in his absence], there was precious little that the Emirate could or would do to resolve it.

Nonetheless, he felt very optimistic, seeing as the peace and trade accords in Sharina were going so nicely, it was very possible to conclude a similar agree with the RUN, as long as they were open to the talks. And they have demonstrated a willingness to speak, so it would not be in vain that all of the preparations have been made.

[ooc: this is NOT a conference in general - this is strictly a bilateral conference between the RUN and the Emirate - so anything that pertains or concerns anything else besides what the delegates speak at this table is SIC knowledge only, until publicly pronounced at the end. As such, only the RUN and the Emirate are speaking here, so anything else - even [or perhaps especially] ic relevant material - will be ignored by both parties.]

After such a long flight, the final members of the Republic were finally arriving from Venezuela and Argentina, though the flight from Madagascar and Sri Lanka had seem just as long. Acting President, Simón Bolívar was for one glad to finally have this conference be getting started. He was looking greatly forward to tomorrow and what he along with all the other members of the Republic would be able to be accomplished in just a few hours that took weeks or even years under different circumstances. Their was high hope's all round that after this conference was over, a Permanent Peace would be in effect and would last for the foreseeable future.

After a good night's rest, all members and their aids had arrived at the meeting place and need, but only wait for the Emirate delegation.

OCC: Ok, your in the lead- all yours to kick off.
Alif Laam Miim
24-11-2006, 00:30
Having let their guests rest, the Emir and his company approached them and bade them to enter the Emir's courtyard in Knossos. There was fair weather that day, and the only slight chance for showers would not deter the Emir's preference to meet outside than indoors. A serving of hot mint tea helped to liven the atmosphere before they began to talk.

"Allah has blessed us all for we have a prosperous opportunity before us."

The Emir spoke these words, and said nothing for the next five minutes, drinking his tea. The RUN delegation was somewhat confused, but if anything, they learned to respect differences in other people.

After that, the Emir began to discuss the principal function of the conference.

"Well, it has been a while since the Iberian Kingdom established relations with the Emirate, and here we are to repeat the same steps as before, except with more ceremony. What is different between then and now? I'm tempted to say nothing, but I know that it is not the same. A war is on the horizon, and a war that the Emirate hopes to stop nonetheless. There is little option that the Emirate can see resolve this situation at the moment, since the expansion of both Sharina and the RUN seems to solidify the battle lines into a hardened formation set for war. We cannot encourage either party to stop or otherwise risk giving either party an advantage; and we dare not encourage either party to embolden their rush for arms and territory. A compromise was perhaps possible at some point, but my advisors all say that it is beyond comprehension. Our attempts to arrive at some compromise in Sharina have been foiled, and I suppose that we could have followed the same precepts in that conference and further defuse the conflict."

With each moment, the Emir's tone became more depressed. It was a stark contrast to his earlier statement of praise to Allah at the start.

"But we shall try to avoid that. We have come to formalize relations, to see if something can be done to ameliorate the already outstanding relations between the Emirate and the Republic of United Nations. What can we afford to allow? We have established the trade of embassies; is there a possibility to arrange any other trades?"
United Earthlings
24-11-2006, 08:49
Having let their guests rest, the Emir and his company approached them and bade them to enter the Emir's courtyard in Knossos. There was fair weather that day, and the only slight chance for showers would not deter the Emir's preference to meet outside than indoors. A serving of hot mint tea helped to liven the atmosphere before they began to talk.

"Allah has blessed us all for we have a prosperous opportunity before us."

The Emir spoke these words, and said nothing for the next five minutes, drinking his tea. The RUN delegation was somewhat confused, but if anything, they learned to respect differences in other people.

After that, the Emir began to discuss the principal function of the conference.

"Well, it has been a while since the Iberian Kingdom established relations with the Emirate, and here we are to repeat the same steps as before, except with more ceremony. What is different between then and now? I'm tempted to say nothing, but I know that it is not the same. A war is on the horizon, and a war that the Emirate hopes to stop nonetheless. There is little option that the Emirate can see to resolve this situation at the moment, since the expansion of both Sharina and the RUN seems to solidify the battle lines into a hardened formation set for war. We cannot encourage either party to stop or otherwise risk giving either party an advantage; and we dare not encourage either party to embolden their rush for arms and territory. A compromise was perhaps possible at some point, but my advisors all say that it is beyond comprehension. Our attempts to arrive at some compromise in Sharina have been foiled, and I suppose that we could have followed the same precepts in that conference and further defuse the conflict."

With each moment, the Emir's tone became more depressed. It was a stark contrast to his earlier statement of praise to Allah at the start.

"But we shall try to avoid that. We have come to formalize relations, to see if something can be done to ameliorate the already outstanding relations between the Emirate and the Republic of United Nations. What can we afford to allow? We have established the trade of embassies; is there a possibility to arrange any other trades?"

The various delegates listen carefully to what the Emir had to say. The more and more the Emir talked the more the sound of his voice seem to display a sense of well, hopelessness. A feeling shared by many in the Republic. As the new President of the Republic waited for the Emir to finish, a lot of thoughts were flowing through his head. Where to even begin on the Sharina Empire issue, was the most stressing.

President of the Republic and the Main Speaker, Simón Bolívar took a sip of the Mint Tea and cleared his throat. "Emir, the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela and speaking on behalf of the other members of the Republic feel just as frustrated and disappointed as you do about the growing tensions that could in all likely lead to war in the Americas. Before, I continue I would like to state that even though I have been designated as the Main Speaker. All members should and will be given a chance to address their issues as they relate to the world. If the Emir would like to address a specify member, the chair will be turned over to them for that time."

"Emir, forgive my sense of humor, but I find it funny even you were unable to reach a compromise with the Sharina Empire. The Republic has tried so many times to reach a compromise with them that after so many failures it sadly has given up on trying to form any compromise with the Sharina Empire. The Sharina Empire seems bent on one thing, a war of conquest to annex and subjugate the entirety of the Western Hemisphere. As you said, Battle lines have been drawn, but not....... (before, Simón could even finish his sentence he was interrupted by one of his aids). Excuse, me for a moment your Emiracy it seems something requires my attention. I request a 5 minute break." (I'm assuming your going to approve the break)

4 minutes later.....

"Emir, as I was saying before the break. The Battle lines have been drawn, but they were drawn by the Sharina Empire and not by any member of the Republic. I present to you the following proof." Simón hands the following message to the Emir, along with the full text of the message. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11988502&postcount=39)
Sharina begins preparations for war, mainly preparing defenses and solidifying control in the Caribbean. In short, Sharina is prepared to bleed the Republic and EATO dry through urban combat in some of the world's most urbanized areas. EATO casualties are projected to run into the hundreds of thousands, or even millions of soldiers, as they will be fighting an extremely well equipped military within literally tens of thousands of square kilometers worth of urbanized terrain. Not only that, but all the urban areas within the East Coast, West Coast, and Latin America surpasses the entire urban area of Europe put together, thus effective EATO control of urban America will be next to impossible on top of the horrendous casualty figures.

Sharina is ready for both an offensive and defensive war. Defensive war within North America and Latin America, and an offensive war within the Caribbean and South America.

"THESE ARE NOT THE ACTIONS OF A NATION THAT DESIRES PEACE! (After a short pause, Simón began to speak again.) Sorry, Emir I apologize for my outburst. However, as I was trying to get at before. How can the Republic or for that matter any member of the Republic or that of any nation of the world try to work out a compromise with the Sharina Empire when all it does is talk of war." [EATO casualties are projected to run into the hundreds of thousands, or even millions of soldiers.] "It saddens me greatly that the Sharina Empire would placed a value on life so low. Why, would a Peaceful nation be so willing to go to war so easily that would see the needless deaths of millions is beyond the understand of the Republic.

We know now that compromising with the Sharina Empire will only work when they are themselves ready to compromise. Dragging other nations into that Abyss, would we see now be a waste of time and energy. What can we afford to allow is indeed a good question and I think that should be next on our topic. The Republic is always willing to arrange trade between it's members and other nations. We have noted that you have started a new construction program and in exchange for a set amount of funds, maybe the Republic can secure a fix amount of Oil at a fix price for a fixed amount of time? In essence, we welcome any trade with the Emirate that will improve relations between our various nations.

Do you Sir, have any questions now that you would like to address to my fellow members of the Republic that are gathered here, today?

OCC: Note, man that was a lot of typing and hopefully my messages got across.
Alif Laam Miim
24-11-2006, 20:29
Emir Jalal kept a calm face.

"I would say nothing at this moment, concerning the actions in America. Whereas the Emirate had asked all parties to cease their military actions in the Americas, instead we found an acceleration in the progress of military advances. Not was Sharina found at fault, but also that of the CSA, the RUN, and the UFC. Only when the manuevers of war were controlled from behind a table designed for peace would we be able to achieve any prospect for compromise. But seeing as each party has developed their own plans for the Americas, the Emirate wishes to see or to hear nothing of that sort. When the members at a table are fixed on promoting their agenda over the plans of others, including the rights of those people under whose jurisdiction is soon to those who are deciding, we cannot but stare and wonder how many people will be sacrificed to attain the most righteous objective.

"Let me state that we support Sharina's policy of regional hegemony, as it is an objective similar to the Emirate's own quests. Granted, we don't agree with the method or the stringency of their tactics, but in the overall objective, we agree that regional bodies must actively seek to stabilize their region. On the other hand, we also agree with the RUN's policy to expand the influence of a stable government and political system to improve the standard of living of those who would otherwise have no opportunity to do so. We believe in a charitable state. Apparently at this juncture, there is a conflict of interests and opinions - something that would have been easier to resolve in table with less bloodshed. But now, with the fixed opinions of the Sharina Technocracy and that of the RUN, we have no opinions to hold in the resolution of these opinions and interests, save that the one that does prevail will not lead to a complete loss for us and the world.

"I make no mistake - countless numbers of people will die. Emirate projections suggest millions will die in America, and perhaps thousands may die from Europe. The seas between the two continent will fill with the blood of sailors from abroad, and the skies likewise littered with scrap. Peace was lost when America was lost - and it will not likely return until America returns, thus begging the question - who will return America?"

Jalal coughed slightly - an old man of over 70, the years of his reign had taken their toll upon his livelihood. It was becoming a hostile place - something that the death of Sistan was supposed to have delivered. But as he could see, it had only shifted, and the death of Sistan only brought a diffuse penetration of its ideologies to the world. Were it better that only one state could hold this reservoir of evil, or the whole world to share it?

"But I beg to defer - let us speak about how we can improve our own relations, as time will tell the tale for us in America."
United Earthlings
25-11-2006, 07:39
Simón Bolívar after listing carefully to what Emir Jalal had to say, began to speak.

“Before I begin, I’m going to turn over the Chair to my friend and ally, Prime Minister Willem Drees to address an issue that I, along with my fellow members here think is the most important issue." [Willem Drees speaking now] “Emir Jalal, you seem to be like the Sharian Empire confused about what the Republic is, allow me to clarify that confusion once and for all. The Republic first off is not a single state or nation, but a collection of nations. On charter was based on the formal United Nations charter, expect with minor differences. Which I could go into if you wish, but for now I will leave them behind. Emir Jalal, though the links to the Iberian Netherlands still remain (the Iberian Netherlands being the main nations of the United Netherlands (the formal name of our homeland) and the Kingdom of Iberia, those links are slowly being washed away until nothing will remain. As you can clearly see, other members of the Republic are gather hear today to lend their voice so that all nations in the Republic benefit from this meeting. So, when you say the RUN started accelerated military actions that is completely incorrect. There is more then one nation to the Republic and as you can clearly see for yourself, the Kingdom of Benelux has not engaged in any military actions in the Americas (the Caribbean specify), neither has my fellow members of Sri Lanka, the Kingdom of Iberia, the Argentine Republic and the Republic of Madagascar. Are you blaming the single actions of Venezuela on the entire Republic. To do so would be neither wise nor fair. My collogue from Venezuela will be the first to admit they did indeed take action in the Caribbean, but only after the Sharian Empire started their invasion of the Caribbean.

As you said earlier, with the fixed opinions of both sides their can be no compromise. This, I fully agree with. As such, not only does the Kingdom of Benelux try to avoid having a fixed opinion so does the entire Republic. Having fixed opinions can blind one to the truth and ultimately lead to ones own death. Only through being open minded can one hope to do what is right. As you said so yourself, the Sharian Empire has fixed opinions and can only see what it thinks is right. As such, sense the Sharian State is indeed an Empire it can only see other nations as Empires. Their can be no other political ideology in Sharain’s mind then their own. We would hope the Emirate will not fall into the same trap the Sharian Empire has fallen into, as we have much hope for the Emirate. Our prayers are with you and your people. I now turn over the chair back to Venezuela.”

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[Note: Simón Bolívar speaking again] “The Republic disagrees with the Emirate and the Sharian Empire fundamental on the issue of regional hegemony. The Republic does not support any type of hegemony. Nations throughout their history have used the issue of hegemony to subjugate other nations and cultures to their will. How the Emirate can support the dominance of one group over other groups is beyond our understanding at this time. Would the Emirate support the hegemony of Africa and the Middle East to the Sharian Empire, because by supporting the dividing of the world into zones of hegemony for certain nations will only in the long run lead to war. So, by supporting it now, you are agreeing to support it later, when that times comes the Emirate will more then likely find it self without friends or allies as the might that is the Sharian Empire would have grown beyond any type of control. This is why you must choose your friends carefully. As you have said so yourself, the Sharina Empire has refused to compromise.

What will stop the Sharian Empire once it has completed hegemony over the Western Hemisphere from deciding that Africa and Europe are within it’s hegemony? The Republic agrees that regional bodies must seek to maintain peace in their regions. However, that is not regional hegemony, but regional harmony. A big difference when it comes down to ideology. The Republic has no desired to expand it’s influence, it only wishes to use it’s influence to bring all nations together, as it is trying to do now with the Emirate. In closing, Peace is never lost unless all parties consider it lost. The Republic will never consider Peace lost until it is lost in the chronicles of war brought on by the war the Sharian Empire says it’s trying to prevent by gaining complete hegemony of the Western Hemisphere.

Yes, let us talk about how we can improve our relations and leave the differences of America behind us. Maybe, by improving our relations we can in same way improve the relations in America. The Republic is always hopefully and this is why it asked for this meeting. Only through good relations and talking can all sides be heard and with luck a peaceful means be found that will solve all problems.

Emir Jalal, is their anything specify you would like to discuss that will improve our relations? We consider the relations between the Republic and the Emirate the highest they have ever been, even though we disagree on some issues. Even though we disagree sometimes, only through disagreeing and hearing other’s opinions can one learn to better not only themselves, but others as well.”
Alif Laam Miim
25-11-2006, 08:11
The Emir listened to the opinions.

"I have no say to decide who started what in the Americas. Personally, I like to blame the Dweladelf Empire, for their collapse, but that would be equivalent to me blaming the mule for dying out under the stress of its own weight. And alas, were the Empire still around, I feel that the conflict would still exist, as the true conflict is not over territory, but over ideology - whose domain is the righteous? I like to think both the RUN and Sharina hold very good positions, but in a matter of implementation, the progress of the current affairs is not right. Had all parties adhered to the Emirate's requests to cease all military actions in the Americas, we would not be in such a situation.

"But Allah seems to divert our attention to that matter so much - perhaps there is still something that man can do to prevent its great atrocities. But I might be blind, as I neither see it nor do I comprehend it. Sharina has expressed no interest to extend its hegemony to other domains, and the fears that you express are quite unfounded in our lands - given the already-present treaty, in which Sharina recognizes that her sole domain exists in America and that her intentions are to brought in mutual conference rather than by force o arms, we have no apparent reason to claim that Sharina would intend harm upon the peoples of Africa and the Middle East, or of the Emirate. But that aside, I feel that this discussion will help to hinder the things that matter most - let us speak of how we can make things better between us.

"Bearing in mind that the recent treaty signed between Sharina and the Emirate in no way affects the way we perceive our friends in the Republics, I am hoping that we can use the said treaty for the basis of or discussions, as in it, we have addressed several key features that the Emirate wishes to conclude, notably the need to address to growing tension of alliances among our governments. I remember reading the first clause, which I have come to value the most, something stating that we agree to abhor war as a viable means for primary communication between our two governments, instead choosing policies that help to promote friendly relations, cooperative relations, mutually beneficial relations.

"I feel that if we can agree to say that we choose to lose war as an option, this will help to bring a greater sense of solidarity among our peoples - especially if we can trust that we are two governments that have no aims to harm the other. The Emirate benefits from having a strong ally with a global out-reach; we are certain that the RUN benefits from the solid and stable government present in the Emirate. I think a war between us would not only prove fatal to our own states, but likewise unrighteous to our neighbors. In those days, nation would wage war upon neighbor, to seek a gain of petty proportions compared to the insurmountable suffering present in the people inhabiting those areas. And as two peace-loving countries, we cannot logically agree to say that war is still an option, especially as a viable one; so for us, the declaration of the void possibility of war between the RUN and the Emirate seems but a natural and logical proposition, as well as one that fosters the development of closer ties, something in the event of calamitous events will help the both of our peoples."

The Emir paused for that moment. Just as the RUN speaker was about to talk, the Emir politely interrupted him. "I understand your sentiments about the situation in the Americas, and I understand the purpose of the RUN. Whereas I doubt that Sharina fully appreciates the value of the RUN's objectives, I still find the conflict of interests a trivial issue compared to the objectives that we have before us. I should respectfully ask that we leave the mention of the Americas out of our discussion, until we can afford the time to speak on political agendas. Come - instead of peering into the discord of what differences exist in our opinion, let us rather open venues to solidify the common accords that we can agree and firmly establish what we can consider to be the strongest bonds of friendship possible between two states - outside the obligatory requirements of an alliance, of course."
United Earthlings
26-11-2006, 18:35
We agree that the purpose of this meeting was not to discuss the problems in America or the Western Hemisphere have you, but that of the relationship between the new Republic and the Emirate. As such, neither I nor any member gather here today will bring up the topic of America again unless the Emirate does.

I have a question Emir, why not sign an alliance? What more could show the signs of friendship and the bonding together of two people then an alliance. In the last few weeks, the Republic has been pursuing this simple task. Our working towards bring all nations together. It is not allies that go to war, but enemies. We are in the process of signing different type of alliances with different nations in an effort to bring our various nations together for the common good. The signing of an alliance would as you put it, void the possibility of war between us. It would not need to be a complete alliance but, merely a simple treaty of friendship and trust between our people.

The opening up of trade would also greatly benefit all our people. The world is not divided anymore into it's sphere's of control. We all have a stake in what happens to the world and not just our region.

The Republic supports the treaty signed between the Sharina and the Emirate. Only through proper "truthful" communication can our differences be truly resolved and put to rest.
Alif Laam Miim
27-11-2006, 02:04
Emir Jalal was happy to hear the constructive discourse displayed by the delegates present.

"I understand your inclination to develop the strongest possible bonds between states - however, I must caution the RUN from exercising the word 'alliance' too much before a country that in the past been exploited for the status of its alliance [speaking of Britain...see history of Emirate...]. Of course, I see no reason why not to develop an alliance of sorts, although a quick working of semantics can grant us room to develop a pact of sorts between us. In all voices and descriptions save by name, it would be an alliance. In fact, if we can work to some treaty similar to that proposed between Sharina and the Emirate just recently, we feel that we can easily work to manage the close relations between our states. As you stated, the treaty itself is agreeable between the Emirate and Sharina, and a similar treaty could easily work between us as well.

[ooc: I am now more inclined to call your Republic a 'Federation' - and I think that it would be much better... just think of it - the Federation of United Nations!]

"Trade - as always - seals the bonds of friendship, as it is most unwise and furthermore unhealthy to trade with your enemies; as it is, partners who trade can do nothing but become friends. I have the grave misfortune to have left my Minister of Industry and Economics, but granted, he is currently working on managing the revitalization of recently acquired territories. I am certain that your own government has similar ministers working on similar projects in the Republics, but that aside, I feel that we all have that we can share with each other. In the Emirate, there are numerous economic opportunities - notably agriculture and petrochemical. The Abyssinian Protectorate is among the world's most productive and most cherished growers of coffee, and if your European friends are as devoutly drinkers as many in the Emirate, I feel that this small sampling of opportunities can only reveal what sort of economic partnership we can afford to manage in sum - the Emirate is opening to the world and we hope that the RUN can share in our prosperity."
United Earthlings
27-11-2006, 06:04
Emir Jalal was happy to hear the constructive discourse displayed by the delegates present.

"I understand your inclination to develop the strongest possible bonds between states - however, I must caution the RUN from exercising the word 'alliance' too much before a country that in the past been exploited for the status of its alliance [speaking of Britain...see history of Emirate...]. Of course, I see no reason why not to develop an alliance of sorts, although a quick working of semantics can grant us room to develop a pact of sorts between us. In all voices and descriptions save by name, it would be an alliance. In fact, if we can work to some treaty similar to that proposed between Sharina and the Emirate just recently, we feel that we can easily work to manage the close relations between our states. As you stated, the treaty itself is agreeable between the Emirate and Sharina, and a similar treaty could easily work between us as well.

[ooc: I am now more inclined to call your Republic a 'Federation' - and I think that it would be much better... just think of it - the Federation of United Nations!]

"Trade - as always - seals the bonds of friendship, as it is most unwise and furthermore unhealthy to trade with your enemies; as it is, partners who trade can do nothing but become friends. I have the grave misfortune to have left my Minister of Industry and Economics, but granted, he is currently working on managing the revitalization of recently acquired territories. I am certain that your own government has similar ministers working on similar projects in the Republics, but that aside, I feel that we all have that we can share with each other. In the Emirate, there are numerous economic opportunities - notably agriculture and petrochemical. The Abyssinian Protectorate is among the world's most productive and most cherished growers of coffee, and if your European friends are as devoutly drinkers as many in the Emirate, I feel that this small sampling of opportunities can only reveal what sort of economic partnership we can afford to manage in sum - the Emirate is opening to the world and we hope that the RUN can share in our prosperity."

OCC: Trust me when I say this, I spent a long time working on the name I'm using. I went through over 10 of them. The Federation of United Nations was one of them. Thanks, but no thanks I passed on being called FUN. :D Yeah, I saw the jokes coming with that one. [Enter Sarcasm- it's not FUN if you can't RUN[End Sarcasm]. :D As to what I RUN, well that's why I choose the name. I keep things RUNNING. :D I'm glad your enjoying the new direction I'm taking my nations. I thought the twist would spice things up.

IC: The Republic is familiar with the history of the Emirate. The Republic has no desire to turn your nation into a so called puppet that will do our bidding. When we use the word alliance, we speak of more then just an alliance as that single word could not convey our feelings towards the Emirate. When we speak of an alliance, we speak of it as what it's true meaning is and not what it does. A union for the common good. Together as equal partners working together towards building a better, safer world we all can be proud of not just those in the Republic or in the Emirate.

Our governments are indeed working on similar projects. From America to Asia, we have tried to bring the best the Western World has to offer to the rest of the world. Sometimes, sadly that also brings the worst it has to offer. You can't have the good without the bad.

There are always economic opportunities when nations work together. The various members of the Republic have signed with each other deals to make sure no one country is taken advantage of or is left behind. We are all equal trading partners as the Republic one day hopes to be with the Emirate. The various nations of the Republic produce a wide range of products. Coffee being one of them, different types of fruit being another one. Fruits, I'm sure the citizens of the Emirate would enjoy once trade relations have been officially established. We also know the Emirate has much to offer to the Republic in the form of trading goods. Equal Partners for an equal world, so let us begin the discussion on what we both seem to agree on. The opening up of trade between our nations.
Alif Laam Miim
27-11-2006, 16:42
"Well, if we agree on certain terms, is it possible to begin working on a possible draft for a treaty?"
United Earthlings
27-11-2006, 18:14
"Well, if we agree on certain terms, is it possible to begin working on a possible draft for a treaty?"

"It is indeed possible, depending on the terms of the treaty. The establishing of permenant trade relations being one term. As we discuss more, I'm sure more terms will be added and hopefully all parties argeeing with them."
United Earthlings
29-11-2006, 07:08
Bump, in case you missed my reply.
Alif Laam Miim
30-11-2006, 05:51
Bump, in case you missed my reply.

[ooc: i didn't miss it... i'm writing... :D]
United Earthlings
30-11-2006, 10:52
[ooc: i didn't miss it... i'm writing... :D]

OCC: Sorry, I was just confused as to why it was taking you so long to responded to a single sentence. God, I hope your really aren't doing that much writing. If, you are I guess I’ll start have to writing some points for myself that I would like added.

[Enter Sarcasm]Today's Title book were going to review is "The Conference"[End Sarcasm]:rolleyes:
Alif Laam Miim
30-11-2006, 16:29
On this day, the ## $$$ 2006, the Republic of United Nations - hereafter 'RUN' - and the Emirate of Alif Laam Miiim et al.* - hereafter "ALM" - have met in conference and thence resolved the following:

1 - RUN and ALM vow never to wage war by futile means, up to and including the following:
a) implementation of hostile policies aimed to destroy or destabilize the other,
b) expressing illegitimate claims and authority in regions that are beyond the realm of influence for the respective countries,
c) implementation of hostile policies aimed to specifically destabilize the ally of the other, without just cause and beyond legitimate claims;

2 - RUN and ALM vow to resolve any outstanding differences in a bilateral conference, using diplomacy and other peaceful methods of engagement;

3 - RUN and ALM vow to make efforts to improve relations with each other and with those allies of each party, so as to avoid any entangling conflicts of serious nature;

4 - RUN and ALM vow to establish and maintain lucrative trade agreements, beneficial to both parties and permit the permeability of trade goods from the RUN/ALM to the other;

5 - RUN and ALM vow to support each other in times of calamity and chaos, either by natural causes or outstanding circumstances, to alleviate the suffering incur in such times;

6 - RUN and ALM hereby recognize the constituent states of the RUN to be the [enter countries here] and the constituent states of ALM to be the Emirate of Alif Laam Miim, the Republican Protectorate of Chad, and the Abyssinian Protectorate;



"How does this work for the moment?"
United Earthlings
02-12-2006, 13:27
On this day, the ## $$$ 2006, the Republic of United Nations - hereafter 'RUN' - and the Emirate of Alif Laam Miiim et al.* - hereafter "ALM" - have met in conference and thence resolved the following:

1 - RUN and ALM vow never to wage war by futile means, up to and including the following:
a) implementation of hostile policies aimed to destroy or destabilize the other,
b) expressing illegitimate claims and authority in regions that are beyond the realm of influence for the respective countries,
c) implementation of hostile policies aimed to specifically destabilize the ally of the other, without just cause and beyond legitimate claims;

2 - RUN and ALM vow to resolve any outstanding differences in a bilateral conference, using diplomacy and other peaceful methods of engagement;

3 - RUN and ALM vow to make efforts to improve relations with each other and with those allies of each party, so as to avoid any entangling conflicts of serious nature;

4 - RUN and ALM vow to establish and maintain lucrative trade agreements, beneficial to both parties and permit the permeability of trade goods from the RUN/ALM to the other;

5 - RUN and ALM vow to support each other in times of calamity and chaos, either by natural causes or outstanding circumstances, to alleviate the suffering incur in such times;

6 - RUN and ALM hereby recognize the constituent states of the RUN to be the [enter countries here] and the constituent states of ALM to be the Emirate of Alif Laam Miim, the Republican Protectorate of Chad, and the Abyssinian Protectorate;

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"How does this work for the moment?"

OCC: I have added a few things I thought would make it sound better. I dug up some treaties of various nations and I think I found the best of all of them.

IC: After, reading over the text for a few hours and having a nice debate among themselves. The various members of the Republic reentered the Council Chambers and submitted the following. "Emir Jalal, we [The nations of the Republic] have gone over the treaty and submit in writing the following changes to be discussed and hopefully approved."

On this day, the ## $$$ of 2006, the Republic of United Nations - hereafter 'RUN' - and the Emirate of Alif Laam Miiim et al.* - hereafter "ALM" - have met in conference and thence resolved the following:

1 - The Nations of RUN and ALM vow never to wage war by futile means, up to and including the following:
a.) implementation of hostile policies aimed to destroy or destabilize the other,
b.) expressing illegitimate claims and using it's nation(s) influence to destroy or destabilize the others respective countries, [OCC: Changed, because my influence is global and there is no specify region I work in. I work toward's world Peace and Stability not, just specify regions. Also, there are many types of influence and said influence need not be a bad type in your region or yours in mine. Example, trade is a type of influence. By trading with Sri Lanka for example you are allowing the influence of that country to enter yours, albeit not on purpose still there is influence. It also works vice verse. So, I think 1B should be our next discussion. As, I'm sure it can be reword better then what I wrote.]
c.) implementation of hostile policies aimed to specifically destabilize the ally of the other, without just cause and beyond legitimate claims,
d.) implementation of policies that support nations that stated aim is to specifically destroy or destabilize the Nations of the Republic and/or the Emirate of Alif Laam Miiim;

2 - RUN and ALM vow to resolve any outstanding differences in a bilateral conference, using diplomacy and other peaceful methods of engagement;

3 - RUN and ALM vow to make efforts to improve relations with each other and with those allies of each party, so as to avoid any entangling conflicts of serious nature;

4 - RUN and ALM vow to the establishment and functioning of an internal market that will be beneficial to both parties and permit the permeability of trade goods from the RUN/ALM to the other;
a.) The RUN and ALM shall adopt measures with the aim of establishing or ensuring the functioning of the internal market, in accordance with the relevant provisions of the agreement.
b.) The internal market shall comprise an area without internal frontiers in which the free movement of persons, services, goods and capital is ensured in accordance with the treaty.
c.) A Commission, headed by members from both the RUN and ALM, shall adopt regulations and decisions determining the guidelines and conditions necessary to ensure balanced progress in all the sectors concerned.
d.) When drawing up its proposals for achieving the objectives set out in paragraphs 1 and 2, the Commission shall take into account the extent of the effort that certain economies showing differences in development will have to sustain for the establishment of the internal market and it may propose appropriate measures.
e.) If these measures take the form of derogations, they must be of a temporary nature and must cause the least possible disturbance to the functioning of the internal market.
f.) Member States shall consult each other with a view to taking together the steps needed to prevent the functioning of the internal market being affected by measures which a Member State may be called upon to take in the event of serious internal disturbances affecting the maintenance of law and order, in the event of war, serious international tension constituting a threat of war, or in order to carry out obligations it has accepted for the purpose of maintaining peace and international security.

5 - Should the RUN or ALM be the object of a terrorist attack or the victim of a natural or man-made disaster, the other Member States shall assist it at the request of its political authorities.;

6 - RUN and ALM hereby shall respect the equality of the constituent states of the RUN to be the [enter countries here] and the constituent states of ALM to be the Emirate of Alif Laam Miim, the Republican Protectorate of Chad, and the Abyssinian Protectorate, as it relates to their national identities, inherent in their fundamental structures, political and constitutional, inclusive of regional and local self-government. it shall respect their essential State functions, including ensuring the territorial integrity of the State, maintaining law and order and safeguarding national security.

OCC: As noted above, I changed a few things to make them more clear and more precise. I told you I was a perfectionist. I could write a book for our treaty with the resources I have, however I'm greatly resisting that temptation. :headbang:

Take a few days like I did to look over it, you might want to add something you didn't think of before. I await your reply.
Alif Laam Miim
06-12-2006, 00:34
[ooc: let's finish this up quickly before finals kill me - and being the perfectionist, you forgot something:

6 - RUN and ALM hereby shall respect the equality of the constituent states of the RUN to be the [enter countries here] and the constituent states of ALM to be the Emirate of Alif Laam Miim, the Republican Protectorate of Chad, and the Abyssinian Protectorate, as it relates to their national identities, inherent in their fundamental structures, political and constitutional, inclusive of regional and local self-government. it shall respect their essential State functions, including ensuring the territorial integrity of the State, maintaining law and order and safeguarding national security.

I do hope that the RUN is more proliferate than that...]

IC: Jalal nods, as he reads it: "I think that we can agree to this - the terms are precise but not too restricting. It will benefit both of our peoples very well, and likewise defuse any outstanding conflicts between our peoples on several outstanding issues. Nonetheless, we hope that whatever Allah holds for us, that it is for the best. We pray that this treaty is part of Allah's plans, and that it is thus blessed with the Gracious and Merciful Hands of Allah.

"I hope that we can make this at an end soon, as I must return home soon."
United Earthlings
06-12-2006, 02:00
[ooc: let's finish this up quickly before finals kill me - and being the perfectionist, you forgot something:



I do hope that the RUN is more proliferate than that...]

IC: Jalal nods, as he reads it: "I think that we can agree to this - the terms are precise but not too restricting. It will benefit both of our peoples very well, and likewise defuse any outstanding conflicts between our peoples on several outstanding issues. Nonetheless, we hope that whatever Allah holds for us, that it is for the best. We pray that this treaty is part of Allah's plans, and that it is thus blessed with the Gracious and Merciful Hands of Allah.

"I hope that we can make this at an end soon, as I must return home soon."

OCC: I have an IC post later tonight. As to the forgetting something. Since, you bolded it. I assuming your saying I forget to say [enter countries here]. If so, are you sure? You might want to look again. :p

Good luck with finals too, if you want we can put this on hold till you get back. I don't mind I just mind we people disappear and not tell me. You know, like you with the map players. :D
Alif Laam Miim
07-12-2006, 16:06
OCC: I have an IC post later tonight. As to the forgetting something. Since, you bolded it. I assuming your saying I forget to say [enter countries here]. If so, are you sure? You might want to look again. :p

Good luck with finals too, if you want we can put this on hold till you get back. I don't mind I just mind we people disappear and not tell me. You know, like you with the map players. :D

[ooc: haha, funny. I was actually mentioning that I wanted you to put in the constituent members of the Republic. But I assume that you already know that and are working diligently to fix that problem :D

And as far as finishing this, I'd hoped to finish this before the war, but you know, the war's already started - but if you have the time, I can finish this little tidbit before I retire my country completely to its own domestic affairs during my 3 year tenure.]
Alif Laam Miim
10-12-2006, 22:03
[ooc: do you want to finish this soon, or is now a bad time? Because otherwise, I'll stop checking for a reply until time can avail me more opportunities...]
United Earthlings
10-12-2006, 22:20
[ooc: do you want to finish this soon, or is now a bad time? Because otherwise, I'll stop checking for a reply until time can avail me more opportunities...]

I have a reply, final one up by tonight or more likely by tomorrow. As you said, until time can avail me more opportunities.
United Earthlings
11-12-2006, 07:19
The Final Text of the Treaty:

On this day, the 11th of December 2006, the Republic of United Nations - hereafter 'RUN' - and the Emirate of Alif Laam Miiim et al.* - hereafter "ALM" - have met in conference and thence resolved the following:

1 - The Nations of RUN and ALM vow never to wage war by futile means, up to and including the following:
a.) implementation of hostile policies aimed to destroy or destabilize the other,
b.) expressing illegitimate claims and using it's nation(s) influence to destroy or destabilize the others respective countries,
c.) implementation of hostile policies aimed to specifically destabilize the ally of the other, without just cause and beyond legitimate claims,
d.) implementation of policies that support nations that stated aim is to specifically destroy or destabilize the Nations of the Republic and/or the Emirate of Alif Laam Miiim;

2 - RUN and ALM vow to resolve any outstanding differences in a bilateral conference, using diplomacy and other peaceful methods of engagement;

3 - RUN and ALM vow to make efforts to improve relations with each other and with those allies of each party, so as to avoid any entangling conflicts of serious nature;

4 - RUN and ALM vow to the establishment and functioning of an internal market that will be beneficial to both parties and permit the permeability of trade goods from the RUN/ALM to the other;
a.) The RUN and ALM shall adopt measures with the aim of establishing or ensuring the functioning of the internal market, in accordance with the relevant provisions of the agreement.
b.) The internal market shall comprise an area without internal frontiers in which the free movement of persons, services, goods and capital is ensured in accordance with the treaty.
c.) A Commission, headed by members from both the RUN and ALM, shall adopt regulations and decisions determining the guidelines and conditions necessary to ensure balanced progress in all the sectors concerned.
d.) When drawing up its proposals for achieving the objectives set out in paragraphs 1 and 2, the Commission shall take into account the extent of the effort that certain economies showing differences in development will have to sustain for the establishment of the internal market and it may propose appropriate measures.
e.) If these measures take the form of derogations, they must be of a temporary nature and must cause the least possible disturbance to the functioning of the internal market.
f.) Member States shall consult each other with a view to taking together the steps needed to prevent the functioning of the internal market being affected by measures which a Member State may be called upon to take in the event of serious internal disturbances affecting the maintenance of law and order, in the event of war, serious international tension constituting a threat of war, or in order to carry out obligations it has accepted for the purpose of maintaining peace and international security.

5 - Should the RUN or ALM be the object of a terrorist attack or the victim of a natural or man-made disaster, the other Member States shall assist it at the request of its political authorities.;

6 - RUN and ALM hereby shall respect the equality of the constituent states of the RUN to be any member both present and future of the RUN and the constituent states of ALM to be the Emirate of Alif Laam Miim, the Republican Protectorate of Chad, and the Abyssinian Protectorate, as it relates to their national identities, inherent in their fundamental structures, political and constitutional, inclusive of regional and local self-government. it shall respect their essential State functions, including ensuring the territorial integrity of the State, maintaining law and order and safeguarding national security.
Alif Laam Miim
16-12-2006, 18:35
The Final Text of the Treaty:

On this day, the 11th of December 2006, the Republic of United Nations - hereafter 'RUN' - and the Emirate of Alif Laam Miiim et al.* - hereafter "ALM" - have met in conference and thence resolved the following:

1 - The Nations of RUN and ALM vow never to wage war by futile means, up to and including the following:
a.) implementation of hostile policies aimed to destroy or destabilize the other,
b.) expressing illegitimate claims and using it's nation(s) influence to destroy or destabilize the others respective countries,
c.) implementation of hostile policies aimed to specifically destabilize the ally of the other, without just cause and beyond legitimate claims,
d.) implementation of policies that support nations that stated aim is to specifically destroy or destabilize the Nations of the Republic and/or the Emirate of Alif Laam Miiim;

2 - RUN and ALM vow to resolve any outstanding differences in a bilateral conference, using diplomacy and other peaceful methods of engagement;

3 - RUN and ALM vow to make efforts to improve relations with each other and with those allies of each party, so as to avoid any entangling conflicts of serious nature;

4 - RUN and ALM vow to the establishment and functioning of an internal market that will be beneficial to both parties and permit the permeability of trade goods from the RUN/ALM to the other;
a.) The RUN and ALM shall adopt measures with the aim of establishing or ensuring the functioning of the internal market, in accordance with the relevant provisions of the agreement.
b.) The internal market shall comprise an area without internal frontiers in which the free movement of persons, services, goods and capital is ensured in accordance with the treaty.
c.) A Commission, headed by members from both the RUN and ALM, shall adopt regulations and decisions determining the guidelines and conditions necessary to ensure balanced progress in all the sectors concerned.
d.) When drawing up its proposals for achieving the objectives set out in paragraphs 1 and 2, the Commission shall take into account the extent of the effort that certain economies showing differences in development will have to sustain for the establishment of the internal market and it may propose appropriate measures.
e.) If these measures take the form of derogations, they must be of a temporary nature and must cause the least possible disturbance to the functioning of the internal market.
f.) Member States shall consult each other with a view to taking together the steps needed to prevent the functioning of the internal market being affected by measures which a Member State may be called upon to take in the event of serious internal disturbances affecting the maintenance of law and order, in the event of war, serious international tension constituting a threat of war, or in order to carry out obligations it has accepted for the purpose of maintaining peace and international security.

5 - Should the RUN or ALM be the object of a terrorist attack or the victim of a natural or man-made disaster, the other Member States shall assist it at the request of its political authorities.;

6 - RUN and ALM hereby shall respect the equality of the constituent states of the RUN to be any member both present and future of the RUN and the constituent states of ALM to be the Emirate of Alif Laam Miim, the Republican Protectorate of Chad, and the Abyssinian Protectorate, as it relates to their national identities, inherent in their fundamental structures, political and constitutional, inclusive of regional and local self-government. it shall respect their essential State functions, including ensuring the territorial integrity of the State, maintaining law and order and safeguarding national security.

Just because I happen to have the time and just noticed this,

The Emirate of Alif Laam Miim accepts this treaty as formal, and the Emir has formally fixed his seal unto it.

With that, he waits for the RUN delegation to do their part in making this a valid treaty, and likewise prepares to return to Al Qahirah quickly for the remainder of his vacation...
United Earthlings
17-12-2006, 07:09
OCC: How go the exams?

IC: The members of the Republic of United Nations gather here today, sign their name to the treaty and any future member that joins the Republic will also sign it's name.

It has been an honor to work with you Emir, Jamel. May Allah bless our lands and bring peace to all our nations.

With the treaty signed, the various members of the Republic departed for home satisfied that had made a difference in the world. Sadly, little did they know that soon their nations would be consumed by a war that would bring untold death and destruction to every part of the globe and to their own people. A sad fitting for what had started out as a mission of peace.

Would the world ever know peace or was it doom to be consumed forever in the fires of war, death and disease.