NationStates Jolt Archive

OOC: Alrighty-O. I've got most of the small arms I need, I'll just have to invent my own for those I don't have. This thread is for my other weapon needs. Just to remind you all I'm Post Modern Tech.

IC:
OFFICIAL GOVERNMENT REQUEST.

From: Ulashar Totaim, Head of Weapons Development.

Greetings once again, weapons makers and arms dealers of the world.
Uldarious is pleased with the responses for our last request.
To that end the next stage of arming up is now underway, to that end we require many forms of armour and artilery weapons.
It is a great regret that our own weapons are outdated in modern warfare, so we require the aid of other nations to create such things for us. Or sell them to us.

If a nation in question wishes to construct a weapon for Uldarious from scratch we will contribute the research and test production costs, so long as the weapon will be used by Uldarious and Uldarious alone and so long as it is of premium PMT quality.

Attached to this message are the requirements that must bet met, our preferred stats and the types of weapons we require.

Additional Information
Requirement:
The weapon must be competative in today's PMT battlefields, it is to be of the quality the supplier nation would use in its own armed forces.

Preferred statistics:
We prefer it if the supplier has the designs to give us to modify and copy as we desire, of course our nation has no intention of selling copied weapons to any other nations, strictly for our own use.
This is also helpful as it means we can produce as many as we need and won't have to worry about supply being cut off if our nation is invaded.

It is preferred that the supplier has the specs available. It is all very fine to claim you have a tank that can go 100mph and fire micro-nukes whilst being impregnable, but unless you can supply sound reasons for such a thing we'd rather not do business with you.

Units:
MBT.
APC.
Self-propelled artillery.
Rocket artillery.
Light tanks.
Surface-to-air missiles, both structure and mobile launched.
Anti-shipping missiles. " " "

To: Ulastar Totaim, head of Uldarian (ooc: hope I got that right) weapon development
From: Allied Weapons works
message:
While not the most impressive main battle tank currently available, our home designed Merkúr mbt has proved itself to be reliable, and well protected.
Given this, we offer it hereby to fulfill your request for a new main battle tank (see attached file)

Merkúr MBT

Armament:
The mod had specified a unusual caliber, a 122mm gun had not been seen on a mbt since the T10M tank from the 1950's, but AWW knew full well the reasoning behind this. The reasoning being that the rounds for the usual 125mm guns were getting on the ridicoulous side, and so decreasing the caliber, while increasing the muzzle velocity, was a usefull, if not the technically easiest way of solving this.
The first decision to make was simple: rifled, or no? AWW quickly decided on the latter, as the pros of a large bore rifled gun are debatable at best.
After 3 years of trial and error, finally a 122mm gun, 45 calibers in length, was successfully test fired, and earmarked for the new design, with this difficult step completed, AWW could move on to designing their new mbt around it.

Armour and self defense
Although the Matador had used the T72's more basic armour the idea of using this for their new mbt was immediately discounted, instead AWW decided on 2nd generation Chobbam armour, with explosive reactive back up. Also placed on the sides of the large, well sloping, somewhat rounded, turret were a total of sixteen smoke launchers, as the decision had been made not to include the T72's ability to generate smoke through its exhaust.
Coaxial with the main armament was placed a signle KPV heavy machine gun, just as the ministry's requrement, with a second one in a pintle mount on the commander's cuppola.

Engine, Gearbox, Transmission
The first choice to make was simple: diesel, or gas turbine. Again AWW made the choice with barely a second thought. Turbo powered diesel it was. A quick look over the country's less used tanks (mostly one offs left over from the liberation war) netted them the Iveco V12 diesel that powered the Ariete mbt. This was quickly copied, and placed in this new tank, giving it a impressive amount of power. Coupled to this was, unsurprisingly, the Ariete's gearbox, but the suspension was home grown, based on the T72's, just with the necessary modifications for the Merkúr's heavier weight.
The single most unusual thing about this configuration was that, after the success of that configuration in the Matador, the decision was made to put the engine up front, and with the turret well to the rear.

Electronics& fire control
Starting out with the most advanced computerized sighting system they could develop, ironically helped by the extra time taken to develop the main gun, AWW went forward with designing the rest of the Merkúr's electronic suite. A full stabilasation for the main gun was a obvios, and soon done, choice, as well as a ballistic computer, full sights for both commander and gunner, as well as periscopes for both, full nbc protection for the entire crew, a muzzle reference sensor, and a laser range finder, the latter also being able to range in shells for the Mauler, as accurate fire support can never be a bad thing.

Merkúr
type: Main Battle Tank
combat weight: 69,5 tons
crew: 4, commander, gunner, driver, loader
length: 10m (gun forward) (32.8 ft), 8,8m (front to back, not including the gun's extra length) (28.8 ft)
width: 4,5m (14.7 ft)
height: 3,1m (10.1 ft)
armour equalients; front: 1500mm, sides: 1200mm, rear: 800mm, top: 200mm, bottom 150mm (chobbam, with era)
Main armament: 122/45 smoothbore tank gun (this is a completely new gun, not one of the guns used in the past of same caliber)
secondary armament: 14,5 mm coaxial machine gun(directly linked to the main gun, so they always point in the exact same direction)
14,5mm machine gun (pintle mount)
ammo capacity:
main gun: 55rounds
145mm: 1000 rounds
powerplant: AWW V12 turbocharged diesel (copy of the Ariete's), 1500 bhp
suspension: extensively modified Christie type, with return rollers
speed: 55kmh
range 500km
power to weight ratio: 21.582
As we did design updatability into the design, it does fulfill most of your points, we think..All it really needs is a bigger gun.

OOC: At the founding of Uldarious it was actually a crime for one to call oneself an "Uldarion" as this was the name of Aralach Kehara Uldarion and the other Chairmen to follow. However now these restrictions have been let down and the citizens may either be Uldarians or Uldarions
Also don't worry too much, Uldarions have freaky names usually, but it was Ulashar Totaim, not Ulastar.
I'll keep the tank option open for a week or so, but your tank holds promise. Any advice on another type of canon to mount instead of the 122mm?

ooc: since this is pmt, then a electro thermal chemical (etc for short) enhancement on the gun is more than feasable..I didn't include that on this design as it was my first mbt design, and also wasn't sure about how feasable it was in mt, back then..

A easy way to upgun it would be to mount a longer gun, and/or a one with etc enhancement.

Hmmm, fair enough. I'll keep that in mind but Ill wait for a few more people.

We suggest the HT-101 series of armoured vehicles we provide, a cheap economical alternative to many of the vehicles seen today:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11618863&postcount=477

(I use this link as it is easier than you seeing a giant block of text).

We also recommend the new HT-50 which is a replacement for 2.5 ton trucks currently in service as resupply and transport vehicles.

HT-50 Heavy Transport (Mafia)

Meant as a replacement for trucks in active combat zones, it can resist enemy fire, and return it from a side mounted machine gun. Finally, supply lines can be safe from pesky infantry and scout cars.

Essentially an armoured truck to replace unarmoured trucks that we currently use to transport goods and men. Using a truck base, engine front, crew compartment, and then cargo compartment. A truck's covered top, but lined with Kevlar and a thin layer of aluminum.

Its design allows it to float and its churning wheels drive it forward, so it can ford rivers effectively. A simple kit allows it to go much deeper thanks to a snorkel.

Basics

Crew: 2 (+8 no cargo)
Length: 5 m
Width: 1.9 m
Height: 1.83 m
Weight: 4.6 tonnes
Cargo: 3 tonnes (metric tons)
Armour: 30mm RHAe (aluminum alloys, resists .50 cal beyond 50m)
Armament: 7.62mm MG
Powerplant: 320 hp diesel V8
Suspension: 4x4 wheel, leaf spring
Road speed: 100 km/h
Range: 285 km

Cost: $85,000 US

At this price you can reasonably replace your front-line truck fleet with armoured vehicles.

OOC: Don't take this personally, but I don't think I want to buy weapons or anything from a Corporate Alliance nation.
Also, if a wanted something like this I would have put it on my first post.
But thank you for your effort.

Don't take this personally but I don't think I want to buy weapons or anything from a Corporate Alliance nation.
Also, if a wanted something like this I would have put it on my first post.
But thank you for your effort.

Technically no one knows that the corporation General Resources which is marketing this is associated with the Mafia. I'll ignore this thing and we'll try again.

A little problem with RPing up to 3 different entities. Like everyone calls the Griffencrest Corporation the Blackhelm Confederacy.

OOC: Oh sorry, that was an ooc message, I'll edit the post so it makes sense.
The primary point is that I don't require a new logistical vehicle, notice it wasn't my list of things I was after. Maybe later I'll consider your design but right now it's my military I'm focussing on.
The last few years of my military advancement will probably be on logistics should I feel they are lacking.

OOC: Oh sorry, that was an ooc message, I'll edit the post so it makes sense.
The primary point is that I don't require a new logistical vehicle, notice it wasn't my list of things I was after. Maybe later I'll consider your design but right now it's my military I'm focussing on.
The last few years of my military advancement will probably be on logistics should I feel they are lacking.

Well the HT-50 is a logistics vehicle, the HT-101 fills nearly every role an armoured vehicle with tracks could fill.

Hmmm, I'll consider it, but I want my stuff to be top-of-the-line or easy to edit to be so.
In any case I won't make a decision in less than a week and I'm hoping for a bit more offers.

Hmmm, I'll consider it, but I want my stuff to be top-of-the-line or easy to edit to be so.
In any case I won't make a decision in less than a week and I'm hoping for a bit more offers.

The HT-101 has dozens of turrets made by various different manufacturers. ti is unbelievably easy to edit.

I can see the value of such a weapon and as I said I will consider your unit, but I'd also like to see what others have to offer.

Ba-bump

Bump.

Bump.
Come on guys, no one wants to sell me vehicles and missiles?

Gah I knew I was stretching things, I'll just bother Kriegzimmer with lots of orders of the next month or so.