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Ok, so everyone knows the drill. I am wanting to do a WWII style rp. Meaning that each person who signs up can be a country, a character within a country, etc. Its all open-ended. The time period would be mainly starting in 1938, when Hitler has just taken over Czechoslovakia.

I ask that everyone at least knows the basics on WWII (which we all should if you actually listened in high school) and be aware of the people they are rp'ing. If you are rp'ing Nevielle Chamberlain, then you're going to be slightly too trusting of Hitler; if you're rp'ing Stalin, then you're going to be a paranoid bastard who shoots everyone then asks questions. Thats just a short representation of what I mean. Wikipedia is a great source for those who wish to study further.

However this doesn't mean we have to have a replay of WWII. We're all a lot smarter than Hitler, Stalin, or a few others, so I think we can make our own mistakes by setting our own course of affairs after that point. So in retrospect, I'm saying that everything that happened up to 1938 has already happened. From that starting point, its our boat to stear. Get it?

The time start off also means that everyone starts with the level of technology that was present at that time. Meaning that the Russians do not have hordes of T-37s out, the United States is not geared for war, Germany doesn't have V2 rockets, etc. Everything that was there at that specific time, is there. No more or its just plain godmoding. Of course it can change, slowly, as you advance in technology.

So who wants to sign up onto this jaunt? Just as a pre-lim, I'll write up a list of nations, below.
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This is the second thread where we've set up shop. The other thread, here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=506233), is where we started. If you think you need any info off it, get it.

Nations
Nazi Germany - Thrashia (and Osteia, Madnestan)
USSR -
Ireland - Yderia II
Great Britain -
France - Recolitus
Spain - Nebarri_Prime
Italy - Modokov
Yugoslavia
Greece
Turkey
Romania
Hungary
China - Maldaathi
Japan - Waldenburg 2
Australia
United States - Sharina
Brazil
Mexico
Canada - The United Ed States
Norway - ChevyRocks
Sweden
Finland - Candistan
Denmark
Belgium
Luxembourg
Poland - Madnestan
Switzerland
Saudi Arabia
Siam

Factbooks
Germany (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=506246)
Finland (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread....9#post11927249)
Saudi Arabia (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11916696#post11916696)
Norway (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=506266)
Italy (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread....5#post11917575)
Russia (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=506248)
United States (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11922269#post11922269)
Spain (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11992322#post11992322)
Sweden (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11991903#post11991903)
France (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11993078#post11993078)

Important Threads
Europe Thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11921714#post11921714)
Africa Thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11935167#post11935167)
East-Asia Thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11935178#post11935178)
North & South Americas Thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11935191#post11935191)

WWII Tanks and other links (http://www.achtungpanzer.com/rl.htm)

Ok, cool!

We need a link to the IC...

Perhaps some of the most countries with most inactive players (mainly UK, USA, Spain, Turkey, Australia, Mexico, Switzerland, meaby a couple of others) should be made free to take again?

Tag.

Perhaps some of the most countries with most inactive players (mainly UK, USA, Spain, Turkey, Australia, Mexico, Switzerland, meaby a couple of others) should be made free to take again?


I agree, i think Caladonn wanted UK....

I agree. We also need a new france. Icovir told me he got into a big war with Emperor Pudu and forgot about us. (punk!) and so we need a new france. I'll be removing inactive players so their countries will be open.

Ok, cool!

We need a link to the IC...

Um...their in the same place they were last time....under "Important Threads."

Hey Thrashia, if you are planning to meet with Mussolini these next 4 days would be the best time for me. He's been on a train heading to Germany.

Hey Thrashia, if you are planning to meet with Mussolini these next 4 days would be the best time for me. He's been on a train heading to Germany.

Post number 51, page 4: here. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11943446&postcount=51)

Hey guys, sorry about my inactivity, a some random distant relative got sick so i was out of town.
Sorry once again.
Wheres the thread>

Hey,can i be some germans revolting against the nazis from inside germany?

Hey,can i be some germans revolting against the nazis from inside germany?

That never happened...we go a bit beyond accurate things, like actual events, but something like a revolt in Nazi Germany before the death of Hitler is pretty far fetched. Anyone who was against Nazi rule is either dead or immigrated. So, no you can't, but perhaps you can rp as some Chinese militia against the Japanese, or some other internal group.

@ Ostroeuropa: Under "Important Threads" is where all the threads are. The original thread is now the European thread.

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Would you mind if I took a small role? Like Mexico?

I wish i could be the USA.

I wish i could be the USA.

If 101 doesn't report in within the next 24 hours, starting now at this, my posting, then you can have the United States, Antigr.

Ostroeuropa...there has been no outbreak of war...and Britain is not in a position to conquer the sovereign free country of Indonesia; not to mention that Britain can hardly conscript every single male between the ages of 21 and 40. You would completely halt all production, manufacturing, mining, etc. Your economy would collapse, etc.

Also, Chamberlain is still Prime Minister. Churchhill is still a lower minister in parliament. Britain at this time would be wishing to establish a diplomatic concourse with Germany and other nations who were looking expansionist, like the Japanese. France and Britain both have vital colonies in South-East asia. You should have little to worry about in Germany at present.

About the British conscription thingy, while it would be technically possible to call all males between 21 and 40 to arms, it would be a political suicide if there was no dire need for such. Even in countries more used to the idea of conscription. In UK, the government that tried to do something like this would have gotten lynched.

EDIT: Free soveregin nation of Indonesia? There is no Indonesia in 1938 - just the colony of Dutch East India.

EDIT: Free soveregin nation of Indonesia? There is no Indonesia in 1938 - just the colony of Dutch East India.

Thats what I meant. You, ostro, would be commiting an act of war against Holland. Not a good move for a nation that is suppose to be in favour of democracy and peace.

Yep.

About Rommel commanding an army... I'd say that's somewhat stretching the limits of realism... He was barely oldand experienced enough to command a division in 1940 (as Major General, who is usually a divisional commander anyways (which you most propably knew already, but I can't stop the teacher in me :p ) - but a whole army, without ever proving himself in battlefield? Quite impossible, I'd say.

Yep.

About Rommel commanding an army... I'd say that's somewhat stretching the limits of realism... He was barely oldand experienced enough to command a division in 1940 (as Major General, who is usually a divisional commander anyways (which you most propably knew already, but I can't stop the teacher in me :p ) - but a whole army, without ever proving himself in battlefield? Quite impossible, I'd say.

Well, I'll change it to a korps, but I wanted the irony involved to be rather unmistakeble. (ie Keitel saying that he'll screw things up, when in actuallity he did fairly well for himself)

Also Madnestan, you're to take charge of those Finnish special operations troops. There are 5,000 of them landing in Konigsberg and the SS is to train them along with your own men. There is a large SS training facility, shared by the local Wehrmacht unit there, in the Konigsberg area where you can have it all be.

So, meet the harbor master where the ship is, and start those Finnish troops going. :D

Yea, I got that, it made me smile too :D
But I just doubt that even Hitler, who didn't know shit about leading war or appointing commanders, would have placed a battalion commander (800-1,000 men) to the position of commanding an army tens if not hundreds of thousands of men just overnight. Then again, you are the Hitler in this RP, so of course you can do whatever you wish... but someone who's been used to lead companies can't be expected to do too well when suddenly in lead of regiments, no matter how Desert Fox he is.

Also Madnestan, you're to take charge of those Finnish special operations troops. There are 5,000 of them landing in Konigsberg and the SS is to train them along with your own men. There is a large SS training facility, shared by the local Wehrmacht unit there, in the Konigsberg area where you can have it all be.

So, meet the harbor master where the ship is, and start those Finnish troops going. :D

Rgr that!

Madnestan: The RSO troopers have arrived in Konigsberg. You can RP your response whenever you feel like it.

Antgir, the USA is yours. 101 has not reported in, in the time I specified. Therefore his position is forefit. Welcome to the rp and I hope to see you do well.

Major Announcement

The date is now August 2nd, 1938.

On Tuesday, this week, it will advance to New Years day, 1939. (Two days from now at 18:00 hours, Eastern Standard Time)

OK, I've been a bit busy in the past few days, I'll try and get a post or two up sometime Sunday.

Can't wait for 4:48pm

OK,now i make it past 4:48.i am now USA.

Are we RP'ing generals and/or presidents or are we rp'ing squads of soldiers?

Personally i prefer the second.

Are we RP'ing generals and/or presidents or are we rp'ing squads of soldiers?

Personally i prefer the second.

All of the above. Your first priority is the country which you represent (in your case the United States). Roosevelt and other important members of the the government will be your main rp'd characters, like General Marshal, etc. However you of course can create other smaller characters, such as a squad of soldiers for when the action starts. Just imagine your playing one of those real-time strategy games where you fight battles and act with diplomacy as a country.

Voxio, did you see that post I made concerning your question? I had replied to Mussolini's train arriving. Ribbentrop is shaking his hand right now.

Post number 51, page 4: here. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11943446&postcount=51)

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All of the above. Your first priority is the country which you represent (in your case the United States). Roosevelt and other important members of the the government will be your main rp'd characters, like General Marshal, etc. However you of course can create other smaller characters, such as a squad of soldiers for when the action starts. Just imagine your playing one of those real-time strategy games where you fight battles and act with diplomacy as a country.

Can i just RP soldiers? it's hard to do both.

Can i just RP soldiers? it's hard to do both.

Oh for unexistingdeity's sake! Didn't you really have the fainstest clue about what this RP's idea was before you signed up? I suggest you read the first post (it's usually the very first thing you do, BEFORE you ask for taking part in it!) and try to understand what this game is about.

but your other post confused me.

but your other post confused me.

What do you mean confused you? How?

Can I take US. I see it's empty.

Can I take US. I see it's empty.

Antgir claimed it, but since he doesn't seem to want to rp it correctly, then sure. You can have it.

Antgir, since you want to rp soldiers, you can rp as soldiers for Maldorians. Talk it out with each other and discuss what sort of things you two can mix up together.

Could I be Netherlands and Luxembourg? Using a page from RL's book, the state will be called Nelux. Governed by an older, popular, but absolute monarch.

Imperialistic and militeristic, bucking the trends of regular Low Country views. It it all okay?

Could I be Netherlands and Luxembourg? Using a page from RL's book, the state will be called Nelux. Governed by an older, popular, but absolute monarch.

Imperialistic and militeristic, bucking the trends of regular Low Country views. It it all okay?

I suppose I could allow it, though I would prefer you took a more "active" country invovled. This however is fine. Welcome.

If no one shows up to some vital nations, I'll take something more active.

Sorry that I haven’t posted in a while. I just got a new job and it’s left me a bit tired. I’ll post more often now.

Thrashia, if I don’t reply right away and you don’t need me to give my imput on the situation just continue to RP so that the RP wont slow down.

If no one shows up to some vital nations, I'll take something more active.

We still don't have France...

Nah, I could never be France.

Mainly because I don't like the color white, and to a lesser degree yellow.

Nah, I could never be France.

Mainly because I don't like the color white, and to a lesser degree yellow.

Yet you do like talking shit about things you know nothing about? You should have the Americans, then.

Apologies about not posting. Got Medieval 2: Total War AND an X-Box 360. Will get to posting ASAP.

Apologies about not posting. Got Medieval 2: Total War AND an X-Box 360. Will get to posting ASAP.

To two big reasons to be offline. ;) I'm slightly jealous.

@Madnestan and Moorington: If there is bad blood between you two then keep out of my thread. I'll not put up with petty differences of opinion. Got it? So keep the dirt out of my house.

Apologies about not posting. Got Medieval 2: Total War AND an X-Box 360. Will get to posting ASAP.

BUY GEARS OF WAR. I AM ADDICTED TO THAT GAME

@ Red Tide: Sure, I'll open up the setting for the tank school. No problem. And the Swedish coup, or whatever you want to call it, took place I am most guessing a few days before the new year. It is now January, 1940.

@ Shakal: You've set in motion a very large and important event at a very high-tension time my friend, and it is not now so easy just to rp the parliament agreeing to whatever King Gustav says. He commited treason in the eyes of the Swedish constitution and murdered a great many parliament members. You've started a civil war in your country, and it will take more than a few talks to smooth things out.

Just remember that. In the mean time it will be interesting if you would create Parliament loyal forces that are clashing with Royal forces. It should get very, very interesting.

To two big reasons to be offline. ;) I'm slightly jealous.

@Madnestan and Moorington: If there is bad blood between you two then keep out of my thread. I'll not put up with petty differences of opinion. Got it? So keep the dirt out of my house.

Sorry, man. I apologize. I've just heard enough bullshit about the French lately to just listen it quietly anymore. It's like all of their military history (no, not that "funny" page made by some moron freedom chips eater) has disappeared at the moment they refused to go to Iraq. My French friend lost his grandpa and both of his granduncles in WW2.
But, I understand this doesn't belong here. Really sorry. I'll stop bitching.

Sorry, man. I apologize. I've just heard enough bullshit about the French lately to just listen it quietly anymore. It's like all of their military history (no, not that "funny" page made by some moron freedom chips eater) has disappeared at the moment they refused to go to Iraq. My French friend lost his grandpa and both of his granduncles in WW2.
But, I understand this doesn't belong here. Really sorry. I'll stop bitching.

Such is life, but they are dead. It is no disrespect to a dead man/woman to say that he is dead. Your reasons are more than valid and carry great weight, however personal feelings are not to be mixed. Remember that in the future. You must always keep yourself stable, to do otherwise is foolish and a waste. My condolances to your friends family.

Thrashia, is the whole invasion force's strength 12,000 men and 300 tanks? Or is it just the first wave? How many of my SS-men are in the ships at the moment?

EDIT: After hearing that it is 1940 already, I made the number of troops in the SS-Güppe Nord 2x bigger, to 50,000 alltogether.

Thrashia, is the whole invasion force's strength 12,000 men and 300 tanks? Or is it just the first wave? How many of my SS-men are in the ships at the moment?

EDIT: After hearing that it is 1940 already, I made the number of troops in the SS-Güppe Nord 2x bigger, to 50,000 alltogether.

The "invasion force" as you call it (wink, lol) is made of 12,000 Heer troops from Kesselring's 4th army, VIII Division. And a full panzer division, mixed between SS troops and a newly forming Heer panzer group, make up the 300 tanks. In support is Admiral Raeder's flotilla and Kesslering's Luftwaffe Group Omega which has about 50-80 different planes.

As for a first wave? It may be all I send, seeing as I will be supporting one side of the conflict which will no doubt have its own army of followers. You can choose which of the new SS divisions you want to have represented in the ad-hock kampfgruppe.

@ Red Tide: Sure, I'll open up the setting for the tank school. No problem. And the Swedish coup, or whatever you want to call it, took place I am most guessing a few days before the new year. It is now January, 1940.


OOC: Uhhh... it was March 1938 before, dont you mean it is now January 1939?

Oh, and Candistan, Gears of War is on my Christmas Wishlist... but Dead Rising is slightly higher.

Sence we jumped ahead a bit shall i just have Von Kluge doing somthing other than inspecting tanks?

Just a description on what he's been doing in the mean time?

Antgir claimed it, but since he doesn't seem to want to rp it correctly, then sure. You can have it.

Antgir, since you want to rp soldiers, you can rp as soldiers for Maldorians. Talk it out with each other and discuss what sort of things you two can mix up together.


only cos i'm good at slodiers but not so good at polotics,et cetera,et cetera.

only cos i'm good at slodiers but not so good at polotics,et cetera,et cetera.

I didn't say that you couldn't do politics. I simply made a decision based upon your enthusiasm in the role. Lack thereof can be damaging to an rp and cause you to be innactive unless your fighting through some horde of enemies.

You expressed the desire to rp soldiers, well you now have that opportunity. As I said before, talk it out with Maldorians.

Excuse me, it was humour that was takin' the wrong way. I meant no offense to anyone, just a slight joke.

Maybe of I had said something witty about America I would have gotten a better reception?

Regardless, I'll try not to rile anyone up.

SWEDISH FACTBOOK

Map of WW2 Sweden At: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweden#Recent_history

Important Figures:

King Gustaf V
He was a conservative man that had no approval for Liberalism. In 1938 Roosevelt urged him

to accomplish peace between Germany and the Czechs. He was sympathetic to the Germans in ww1

and socialized with nazi leaders before the outbreak of ww2.

Per Albin Hansson
Prime Minister of Sweden.He had to give in to German demands out of fear of invasion. He

tried to negotiate for the safety of the jews in Germany but obvously failed.


ECONOMYECONOMY

Swedens economy is among the top in Europe. It is based primarliy on manufacturing and

produces large amounts of iron ore in the north. Most of which is exported into central

europe.

The Swedish manufacturiong sector can produce 1 Cruiser,3 Subs, 30 Aircraft and 100 armor

each year in its current state.

Swedish Army

TOTAL SIZE Before Conscription: 48 000
TOTAL SIZE After Conscription: 600 000 +Several Thousand Auxilary and Home Guard Troops

Army Distributuion Over Sweden

MILO Div HQ Reg HQ InfBat CavBat ArtDiv *

Sodra - 2 8 1 3
Vestra 2 6 18 2 3
Norra - 1 2 - -
Ovra Norrl. - 1 5 - -
Ostra - 1 2 1 -

* Note: Artilleri Divison is a three battery unit of between 20 and 30 guns

Swedish OOB In 1940 {Its as early as i could get}

I6 stands for 6 Infantry Regiments and A3 for 3 Artillery Regiments. Two Corps HQ
I. Div. (Fordeling) I6, I11, I16, A3
II. Div. I5, I13, I21, A4
III. Div. I9, I15, I17, A2
IV. Div. I3, I8, I10, A5
V. Div I4, I12, I20, A5
One Cavalry Brigade

Corps units. I1, I2, I7, I14

Various special units

Infantry Weapons

6.5mm Mauser m/96 Rifles
6.5mm AG m/42 selfloading rifle (10 round mag.)
Model 1931 verion of the Finnish Suomi SMG
6.5 m/37 Swedish verion of the American Browning Automatic Rifle (BAR)
Husqvarna Vapenfabriks AB
m/40 verion of the Finnish 9mm Lahti pistol m/07 Browning pistol

Hand grenades were of German (stick) design

MGs were watercooled 6.5mm m/14 and m/38

8mm version of the m/38 was also in use
m/42 was aircooled


Each Regiment In 1937 Was Equipped With:

3800 men
560 horses
156 wagons
153 light wagons
1 staff car
38 MG's
6 AAMG's
15 Mortars (80mm)
2 AT guns (37mm Bofors)

ARTILERY:

The Artillery Regiments had three Artilleri Div of three batteries each. Number of Artilleri

Div. is

listed below:

75mm 75mm 75mm 105mm How. 105mm How. 105mm How. 150mm How. 70mm 105mm

How. 105mm How.

Total guns
m/02 m/02-33 m/40 m/10 m/39 m/40 m/06 m/02-10 m/39

m/40

and How. Div.

1937 5 5 - 6 - - 4 1 -

-

21


Karsartilleri Divisjon was an independent unit. Number of Karsartilleri Div. is listed

below:
105mm 105mm 105mm 150mm 150mm Stormartilleri Total Div.
m/17 m/34 m/39 m/38 m/39 (Assault gun)

1937 1 2 - 1 - - 4


m/02 =3D Model 1902, m/02-33 Model 1902 modified 1933.
*CDK m/41 modified to take a 105mm gun

ARTILLERY PIECES
Piece Calibre Barrel Proj.wt. Muz.vel. max elev. max range weight
cm calibres kg m/s degree km kg





Light guns
8,4 cm kanon m/1881 8,4 24,6 6,72 470 21 6,0 997




7,5 cm kanon m/1902 7,5 27 6,5 500 16 5,5 970




7,5 cm kanon m/1902/33 7,5 27 6,6 496 43 10,0 1400
50 deg. sideways aim.

Light howitzers
10,5 cm haubits m/1910 10,5 14,1 14,6 293 43 5,8 1100




10,5 cm haubits m/1940 10,5 18,4 15,5 449 45 10,5 1760





Heavy guns
12 cm kanon m/1885 11,7 28,5 16,8 475 35 8,6 2485




10,5 cm kanon m/1917 10,5 32,3 18,2 590 45 11,2 2755




10,5 cm kanon m/1939 10,5 39,9 15,5 785 65 17,2 4000





Heavy Howitzers
16 cm haubits m/1885 15,5 10,8 32,2 276 35 5,5 2670




15 cm haubits m/1906 14,91 12,1 41 300 43 6,7 2150




15 cm haubits m/1939 14,91 23 41,5 580 65 14,6 5630




21 cm haubits m/1917 21,0? ? 120 ? ? 10,0 a lot


Swedens Air Defence:

1939 Swedens Air Defence could field 76 75mm AA guns (24 of old design)
154 40mm Bofors AA guns
78 searchlights
There were four mobile AA Batteries, each of 4 40mm Bofors guns and four Autocannon troops

of 2 40mm

guns.

Armored Company Strength:

6500 men
105 light tanks:
Stridsvagn m/21-29,#=80,5 ton, max speed 18kmh, 2mgs, crew 4 men
Sridsvagn m/40 #=25,5 ton, max speed 45kmh, 37mm gun and 2 mgs, crew 3 men
76 heavy tanks:
Stidsvagn m/42,#=52,5 ton, max speed 45kmh, 75mm gun 4mgs, crew 4 men
6 75mm AT guns
6 37mm AT guns
12 20mm AA guns
c. 1000 other motor vehicles, trucks

SWEDISH Airforce:

Swedish Airforce TOTAL:257 Aircraft
-3 Fighter Wings
(36 Planes Each)
-2 Light Bomber Wings
(24 Planes Each)
-2 Heavy Bomber Wings
(24 Planes Each)
-1 Army Co-ordination Wing
(36 Planes)
-1 Special Aces Wing
(17 Planes)

SWEDISH NAVY:

1 Aircraft Carrier
8 Battleships
9 Cruisers (1 Under Construction)
12 Frigates
15 Subs (5 Under Construction)

67 Smaller Vessels

I didn't say that you couldn't do politics. I simply made a decision based upon your enthusiasm in the role. Lack thereof can be damaging to an rp and cause you to be innactive unless your fighting through some horde of enemies.

You expressed the desire to rp soldiers, well you now have that opportunity. As I said before, talk it out with Maldorians.

Hey,er...Maldorians? *clears throat and points at the thing that says 'talk it out with maldorians'*

Shakal, you'er supposed to post your factbook as its own thread.

if none object i would like to claim Spain


though i would also like to know what the date in the game is as i noted someone say Jan. 40 and another Jan. 39...this is important as Spain was in a Civil war still in Jan. 39(ended April 39)

Excuse me, it was humour that was takin' the wrong way. I meant no offense to anyone, just a slight joke.

Maybe of I had said something witty about America I would have gotten a better reception?

Regardless, I'll try not to rile anyone up.

Its fine, but I think we all might as well cut down on such sarcasm. In the mean time, get to posting!

@Red Tide: General Kluge by this time will have seen the tank school, attended a few classes on things important to tanks, etc. So now would be good to start thinking about the Sweden thing.

@Shakal: Make a new thread in the International Incidents area and name it "Sweden Factbook, WWII RP" or something along those lines. Then post the link in here where I can put it on the first page, first post.

@Nebarri Prime: Welcome, spain is of course open and you are welcome to it. Thou art now dubbed Franco. :D

if none object i would like to claim Spain


though i would also like to know what the date in the game is as i noted someone say Jan. 40 and another Jan. 39...this is important as Spain was in a Civil war still in Jan. 39(ended April 39)

Jan '40 is the date right now.

We need to know the actual positions and strengths of Swedish Loyalist units, as well as those who fight against the King. Or perhaps they are the Loyalists? A messy situation indeed! :p

In any case, there can be no war-RP before we know what there actually is, and where, to fight.

We need to know the actual positions and strengths of Swedish Loyalist units, as well as those who fight against the King. Or perhaps they are the Loyalists? A messy situation indeed! :p

In any case, there can be no war-RP before we know what there actually is, and where, to fight.

Where: Sweden
Who: Anyone who fires upon you

Those are the Fuhrer's orders. Right now is when the German navy is entering Karlskrona. If you don't know where that is I can highlight it and your objectives on the map i provided.

Yes, IC:ly that's the situation. However I have to know where the enemy is, OOC, so that I can play what my men do, what do they see, who shoots at them, how many are there in front of him, et cetera.

Yes, IC:ly that's the situation. However I have to know where the enemy is, OOC, so that I can play what my men do, what do they see, who shoots at them, how many are there in front of him, et cetera.

Well Shakal said that a rebel force was located in the south. These forces would not be in a position to hear the King's proposal in Stockholm in time. Your forces do not have to fight anyone, but simply occupy the cities that you are ordered to take. If shakal has men firing at you in those locations then you will know where the enemy is.

@ Shakal: Remember to keep OOC posts in here. Now, as to your question:

You can keep it real simple. You have your army placed somewhere, and I believe mostly around Stockholm (at least that is what I surmise from your posts) and some in the south led by 'rebels.'

My men are landing in the port of Karlskrona and my paratroopers are occupying the city of Visby on Gotland island. You can rp the local police, militia, or any army forces there either resisting or laying down their arms in support of this liberation force.

Parlimentary Positions

The parlimentary party has around;

2000 Troops: In Goteburg
4 Subs: At Sea
8 Fighters: In Flight
25 Tanks: In Goteburg

3000 Troops: Spread All Over Sweden

Royalist Positions

The Royalists are stationed as follows;

5 Infantry Regiments: Stockholm
2 Infantry Regiments: Karlskrova
3 Infantry Regiments: Malmo
10 Infantry Regiments: Northern Sweden
1 Ifantry Regiment: Boras

3 Armored Brigades: Within 5 km Of Boras
2 Armored Brigades: Stockholm

5 Infantry Regiments Being Called Up For Service.

8 Battleships (Gulf Of Bothnia)
1 Aircraft Carrier (Gulf Of Bothnia)
7 Cruisers (Gulf Of Bothnia)
10 Frigates (Gulf Of Bothnia)
60 Destroyers And Torpedo Boats (Gulf Of Bothnia)

36 Fighters (Stockholm)
36 Fighters (Malmo)
28 Fighters (Umea)

24 Light Bombers (Stockholm)
24 Light Bombers (Boras)

24 Heavy Bombers (Umea)
24 Heavy Bombers (Vasteras)

18 Army Co-Ordination Fighters (Uppsala)
18 Naval CO-Ordination Fighters (Visby)

17 Special Aces (Falun)

Parlimentary Positions

The parlimentary party has around;

2000 Troops: In Goteburg
4 Subs: At Sea
8 Fighters: In Flight
25 Tanks: In Goteburg

3000 Troops: Spread All Over Sweden

Well thats good, 2000 men in a city on the other side of the country...*sigh*


Royalist Positions

The Royalists are stationed as follows;

5 Infantry Regiments: Stockholm

2 Infantry Regiments: Karlskrova
I assume you mean Karlskrona

3 Infantry Regiments: Malmo
10 Infantry Regiments: Northern Sweden
1 Ifantry Regiment: Boras

3 Armored Brigades: Within 5 km Of Boras
2 Armored Brigades: Stockholm

5 Infantry Regiments Being Called Up For Service.

There won't be enough time to call them up.


8 Battleships (Gulf Of Bothnia)
1 Aircraft Carrier (Gulf Of Bothnia)
7 Cruisers (Gulf Of Bothnia)
10 Frigates (Gulf Of Bothnia)
60 Destroyers And Torpedo Boats (Gulf Of Bothnia)

Several of my U-boats are at the straits between Sweden and Aland Islands, blocking entrance to the Bothnian Gulf. And you can't go between the Aland Islands and Finland since its Finnish waters.

36 Fighters (Stockholm)
36 Fighters (Malmo)
36 Fighters (Umea)

24 Light Bombers (Stockholm)
24 Light Bombers (Boras)

24 Heavy Bombers (Umea)
24 Heavy Bombers (Vasteras)

18 Army Co-Ordination Fighters (Uppsala)
18 Naval CO-Ordination Fighters (Visby)

17 Special Aces (Falun)

My paratroopers have already landed with surprise on Visby. By now any fighters or groups you had there will be captured on the ground.

I know its just general numbers before your attack.

BTW: How big is the fllet you sent to land men?

P.S: Link of the factbook: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11991903#post11991903

As for my new Regiments being called up.

Only 1 will be ready in time for immediate combat (In two weeks it will be combat ready. NOTE: I called up 2 a few months of Rp time back.) but if the war lasts the rest will be ready.

I know its just general numbers before your attack.

BTW: How big is the fllet you sent to land men?

P.S: Link of the factbook: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11991903#post11991903

I sent the Tirpits[/b] Battleship, the [i]Scharnhorst battlecruiser, 3 'Pocket' battleships, 2 heavy cruisers, 6 light cruisers, and some 23 dreadnoughts. (as well as more than three dozen transports)

There are also some 46 U-boats patrolling the Swedish coast.

I would like to claim France please. Also I am curious, when Germany takes over France, am I to RP the French Resistance or Vichy French?

I would like to claim France please. Also I am curious, when Germany takes over France, am I to RP the French Resistance or Vichy French?

First I would like you to post (in here) a sample of your rp'ing skills. If I am satisfied with them then you will be allowed to Rp France. However I cannot simply give to you such a vital nation (for the west).

I sent the Tirpits[/b] Battleship, the [i]Scharnhorst battlecruiser, 3 'Pocket' battleships, 2 heavy cruisers, 6 light cruisers, and some 23 dreadnoughts. (as well as more than three dozen transports)

There are also some 46 U-boats patrolling the Swedish coast.


23 Dreadnoughts O_o

23 Dreadnoughts O_o

I'm gonna guess he means "23 destroyers."

I'm gonna guess he means "23 destroyers."

I mean destroyers, sorry. Chev is correct.

ok, i figured as much. just didn't pop into my mind until after i posted...

Spanish Factbook

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11992322#post11992322

Example of RP'ing as France; If it is a little weak I apologize it has been a long time since I've done this:
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Paris, France; 10:00 Local Time; July 15, 1940

As President Lebrun sat in his chair in the Presidential Office at Élysée Palace, he contemplated the events of the past year.

Not a year ago his advisors had warned him of the inevitable threat that Adolf Hitler posed. Lebrun through acts of appeasement, hoped to calm Hitler's expansionist ego. He had hoped that through signing the Munich Agreement in 1938, that Hitler would have been appeased and calmed down. In fact, all it had done was boosted Hitler's ego and led to Lebrun's current position. In May of 1939 he had signed a deal with Poland, pledging military support in the event of an invasion of either party. Lebrun did this in hopes to interfere with the European takeover by Hitler. All attempts had failed.

Now it is July of 1940, and Germany has taken over France. Lebrun's only option is to surrender to Hitler and his thugs.

Paul Reynaud, the former Prime Minister had stepped down, Henri-Phillipe Petain had been appointed, and accepted peace terms for Northern France, establishing Vichy France.

His country is in ruins and the Germans are everywhere. He was now powerless and his country had been split into occupied and unoccupied zones.

President Lebrun signed the paper on his desk and then promptly stood up,

"Jean, please come in here" he called. His aide promptly entered the room "Yes sir?" the aide replied.

"Get the car ready Jean, I fear my time as the President is done." he said with a look of defeat on his aging face. "Very well sir, may I ask where we are going sir?" the aide inquired hesitantly. "Vizille," the former President said with a large sigh. The aide stood there for a moment, absorbing what his superior of many years had just told him. He then turned around and proceeded to inform the Chauffeur of the plans.

As Lebrun stood their in his silent office, he knew that he had not formally resigned due to the dissolution of the National Assembly. The most he could offer was the formal surrender of France five days before.

Lebrun slightly jumped as his aide returned to inform him that the car was ready at the front drive. He looked around one last time, knowing he would probably never see the inside of this office again, and walked out the door with his aide by his side.
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If you would like more, by all means please ask, I understand your worries.

Example of RP'ing as France; If it is a little weak I apologize it has been a long time since I've done this:
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Paris, France; 10:00 Local Time; July 15, 1940

As President Lebrun sat in his chair in the Presidential Office at Élysée Palace, he contemplated the events of the past year.

Not a year ago his advisors had warned him of the inevitable threat that Adolf Hitler posed. Lebrun through acts of appeasement, hoped to calm Hitler's expansionist ego. He had hoped that through signing the Munich Agreement in 1938, that Hitler would have been appeased and calmed down. In fact, all it had done was boosted Hitler's ego and led to Lebrun's current position. In May of 1939 he had signed a deal with Poland, pledging military support in the event of an invasion of either party. Lebrun did this in hopes to interfere with the European takeover by Hitler. All attempts had failed.

Now it is July of 1940, and Germany has taken over France. Lebrun's only option is to surrender to Hitler and his thugs.

Paul Reynaud, the former Prime Minister had stepped down, Henri-Phillipe Petain had been appointed, and accepted peace terms for Northern France, establishing Vichy France.

His country is in ruins and the Germans are everywhere. He was now powerless and his country had been split into occupied and unoccupied zones.

President Lebrun signed the paper on his desk and then promptly stood up,

"Jean, please come in here" he called. His aide promptly entered the room "Yes sir?" the aide replied.

"Get the car ready Jean, I fear my time as the President is done." he said with a look of defeat on his aging face. "Very well sir, may I ask where we are going sir?" the aide inquired hesitantly. "Vizille," the former President said with a large sigh. The aide stood there for a moment, absorbing what his superior of many years had just told him. He then turned around and proceeded to inform the Chauffeur of the plans.

As Lebrun stood their in his silent office, he knew that he had not formally resigned due to the dissolution of the National Assembly. The most he could offer was the formal surrender of France five days before.

Lebrun slightly jumped as his aide returned to inform him that the car was ready at the front drive. He looked around one last time, knowing he would probably never see the inside of this office again, and walked out the door with his aide by his side.
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If you would like more, by all means please ask, I understand your worries.


*claps*

Very good. However I have not invaded Poland, nor have I invaded France. We started the rp in 1938, from which point each of our individual player's personalities have influenced the direction upon which they are acting. Meaning that instead of invading France in 1940, I am occupying Sweden due to it being in a state of anarchy. Get it?

So France is yours, however we just simply do not follow WWII exactly as it went, and only up to a certain point.

Thank you very much, and I think I understand. So basically it has loose ties to historical World War II. But it isnt totally out on Mars as far as being different from real events?

Thank you very much, and I think I understand. So basically it has loose ties to historical World War II. But it isnt totally out on Mars as far as being different from real events?

Correct. Meaning that everything that took place prior to 1938, did. However since then things have changed according to (in germany's case) my will, to a certain extent. Meaning that just because I know the King Tiger tank is awsome, doesn't mean I immediately start making them.

Any technology you might want and you know your nation had it in say 1943, you have to first experiance the needed cause to have the effect of creating a need for that technology. (ie I cant have the King Tiger or anything like that until I come in contact with the T-34 in some fashion).

Ok awesome, I will get my factbook up first, then I will read and get caught up in the European theatre before I make my first post.

Ok awesome, I will get my factbook up first, then I will read and get caught up in the European theatre before I make my first post.

Cool, and have fun.

Can ask where you got your military info for German factbook, I am having a heck of a time finding info on French military at that time

Can ask where you got your military info for German factbook, I am having a heck of a time finding info on French military at that time

Wikipedia, "Panzer Leader" by Heinz Guderian, "German Panzers of WWII", etc. I can try finding the french information for you.

Thanks, so far all I have found are Generals of Armee's 1 - 9 excluding 6 and 7 and information about the amount of infantry men in 1939

Thanks, so far all I have found are Generals of Armee's 1 - 9 excluding 6 and 7 and information about the amount of infantry men in 1939

Work with that. The French didn't have the man power to increase that much.

I was surprised actually, it gives stats of, 900,000 regular and FIVE MILLION trained and ready to be called up. I think it is safe to say they arent even close to as disciplined and trained as the Germans.


I am going to post it now, but I still need to get some numbers for the economy.



EDIT: Here is the link to the post http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11993078#post11993078

Here are the steel outputs for all major countries in 1939. Shouldn't be much different from 1940.

Population/ Yearly Steel output in tons
UK: 47.961.000/13.192.000
France: 41.600.000/6.221.000
USSR: 190.000.000/18.800.000
USA: 132.122.000 /51.380.000
Germany : 76.008.000 /23.329.000
Italy: 44.223.000 /2.323.000
Japan: 71.400.000 /5.811.000

I would like to roleplay as the United States if it is not already taken. I have roleplayed in Earth V, Earth 20, and a few other roleplays, and I would love to take the US in different directions than in real life history.

I would like to roleplay as the United States if it is not already taken. I have roleplayed in Earth V, Earth 20, and a few other roleplays, and I would love to take the US in different directions than in real life history.

Well the guy who said he'd have it hasn't shown up, so I guess that its yours Sharina. I know your material and your rep, so do me proud and rp well.

@ Candistan: He didn't say that any soldiers were posted there in Boden, so I will assume that you did not encounter any resistance once past the border. Your men can just start marching in normal columns. Remember that you're part of a liberation force.

oh...I figured since their gold is stored there and that a fortress is in use that there would be people there
So, should I dismiss the previous post or go with it?

oh...I figured since their gold is stored there and that a fortress is in use that there would be people there
So, should I dismiss the previous post or go with it?

Now there should be a fort guard of around 400 men, armed with rifles and grenades at best. Therefor you would have to assault that in order to reach the gold. However do not assault the fort at this time. Surround it and sit in Boden. Inform my high command that your men have reached their appointed objective.

Well the guy who said he'd have it hasn't shown up, so I guess that its yours Sharina. I know your material and your rep, so do me proud and rp well.

Thank you.

Now I need to know a rough summary, if you will, of what has transpired so far in this RP. A few things I need to know include...

1. Has anything happened yet that involves the US?
2. Has anyone attempted to contact the US or do diplomatic stuff with the US?
3. Has WW-2 officially begun yet?
4. Who are my PC neighbors? I know there's one- the "Unit Ed States" I think.
5. What is the current world situation right now? (Any divergences yet?)
6. What are the diplomatic relations of the PC players towards the US (assuming things have changed already)?

I'd like to know so I have a better idea where and what to start out with, and get the ball rolling as the US.

Thank you.

Now I need to know a rough summary, if you will, of what has transpired so far in this RP. A few things I need to know include...

1. Has anything happened yet that involves the US?
2. Has anyone attempted to contact the US or do diplomatic stuff with the US?
3. Has WW-2 officially begun yet?
4. Who are my PC neighbors? I know there's one- the "Unit Ed States" I think.
5. What is the current world situation right now? (Any divergences yet?)
6. What are the diplomatic relations of the PC players towards the US (assuming things have changed already)?

I'd like to know so I have a better idea where and what to start out with, and get the ball rolling as the US.

1. Not really
2. Not really
3. No not yet
4. Ed would be Canada, but he's not very active and I may have to replace him
5. Ireland had a fascist take over by internal parties. Germany successfully incorporated Czechoslovakia and Austria into itself. The USSR and Germany have (in secret) been cooperating on higher and higher levels. And right now in Sweden, King Gustav burned down and murdered the Swedish Parliament in a bid to return Sweden to a monarchy, and German forces (and Finnish) have landed in Sweden in order to defeat this tyrant and are entering the country as liberators.
6. Not much, our former US player didn't do much. however now that you are here perhas Roosevelt will be a bit more invovled in trying to get america's isolationist country into worrying about things in Europe. (Even though its 1940, I will automatically let Roosevelt win his 3rd term election).

1. Not really
2. Not really
3. No not yet
4. Ed would be Canada, but he's not very active and I may have to replace him
5. Ireland had a fascist take over by internal parties. Germany successfully incorporated Czechoslovakia and Austria into itself. The USSR and Germany have (in secret) been cooperating on higher and higher levels. And right now in Sweden, King Gustav burned down and murdered the Swedish Parliament in a bid to return Sweden to a monarchy, and German forces (and Finnish) have landed in Sweden in order to defeat this tyrant and are entering the country as liberators.
6. Not much, our former US player didn't do much. however now that you are here perhas Roosevelt will be a bit more invovled in trying to get america's isolationist country into worrying about things in Europe. (Even though its 1940, I will automatically let Roosevelt win his 3rd term election).

Thanks for the skinny, Thrasia.

I do have a few more history-specific questions, though.

1. What is the politics like in the UK at this time? I recall that Neville Chamberlain was warming up to the Nazis, and Winston Churchill was opposed to the Nazis. Has the historical trend continued, or did Neville garner more support or anything?

2. I'm curious on how Germany and USSR are cooperating on higher and higher level, considering that Nazi and Communists don't exactly mix. I know that historically Germany and USSR had a non-aggro pact until 1941, when Hitler decided it was time for more Lebraseum (sp?) in Russia and considered Aryans superior to Communists.

3. Are the historical trends within Mexico and Latin America still ongoing?

4. Who are the most active players so far in this RP?

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I'll try to get a factbook up by the weekend and start rolling from there.

First of all, like I asked before: Can I be some minor nation? I lack the time really to RP a major power.

I have in mind Cuba or Mexico. Also, how close to reality does this need to be? I wouldn't mind to have Mexico join the Axis, and recieve German equipment and advisors, for a future Second Mexican American War...

If you'd rather I not do that, thats fine of course. If that is the case, give me Australia.

Due to lack of response from other Asian players and I suppose my general lack of intereast in modern asia, I would like to switch my claim to Denmark or if Denmark's not available then probably Persia. Defiinately Denmark first though.

Umm, I havent seen alot of posts from Great Britain. Do I need to RP the response from Chamberlain or....?

Due to lack of response from other Asian players and I suppose my general lack of intereast in modern asia, I would like to switch my claim to Denmark or if Denmark's not available then probably Persia. Defiinately Denmark first though.

Denmark appears to still be available.

First of all, like I asked before: Can I be some minor nation? I lack the time really to RP a major power.

I have in mind Cuba or Mexico. Also, how close to reality does this need to be? I wouldn't mind to have Mexico join the Axis, and recieve German equipment and advisors, for a future Second Mexican American War...

If you'd rather I not do that, thats fine of course. If that is the case, give me Australia.

Wanderjar, would you consider being China? Waldenburg is Japan and is literally unapossed at this point by any active players. The british have India and the French Indo-China, so they should be active in that area, but as of yet, have not bee.

@ Waldenburg: If Wanderjar accepts China then I would ask you stick with Japan. However if not, then Denmark is yours for the taking.

Wanderjar, would you consider being China? Waldenburg is Japan and is literally unapossed at this point by any active players. The british have India and the French Indo-China, so they should be active in that area, but as of yet, have not bee.

@ Waldenburg: If Wanderjar accepts China then I would ask you stick with Japan. However if not, then Denmark is yours for the taking.

Sure, if Waldenburg still wants to be Japan. If not, then well.....I guess that doesn't matter. It all depends on what Walden wants.


Otherwise, sure man! Whatever you need me to do.

Sure, if Waldenburg still wants to be Japan. If not, then well.....I guess that doesn't matter. It all depends on what Walden wants.


Otherwise, sure man! Whatever you need me to do.

Thanks! *sigh with relief* You're a life-saver...cherry flavor life saver, mmmmm



:P

I can't prolly reply before tomorrooow evening, for I'm rather drunk enough, but in sunday it'll come. Lemme promise ya, brothas. So. Sunday it'll be. o/

anyone have any info on the Spanish armored force...in my factbook i have what i could find for this time, but i also have found something that says they had 651 total armored cars and tanks which leaves 219 missing from the list


oh, and has anything happended regarding Spain itself? i noticed a mantioning of Spain being claimed earlier by someone

With an enemy I'm more then happy to stay as Japan.

With an enemy I'm more then happy to stay as Japan.

good. Glad to see that it works out.

@Neb Prime: No worries, its yours now; the other guy became innactive and it opened up.

Thanks! *sigh with relief* You're a life-saver...cherry flavor life saver, mmmmm



:P

Anything for a GE buddy!


(Begins doing research on Nationalist China....)

Anything for a GE buddy!


(Begins doing research on Nationalist China....)

Here is a good link for your military: http://www.answers.com/topic/national-revolutionary-army

bump

Hello all,

Once again i have returned, RL has had me VERY busy recently. I wish to continue with this Rp, can some one PLEASE fill me in on all events that would have an impact on my charactor(General Von Kluge)...

And where i may jump back in......

Much abliged

Osteia

My factbook will be delayed, as I have had quite the weekend, so I haven't had much time to do the appopriate research and info-gathering for the factbook.

However, I am still committed towards this high quality RP, and I will stick by it, come high or low water.

@osteia: The one major event is the invasion of Sweden by Finland and Germany to liberate its people from the "psychotic" king Gustav. A bunch of other small things are also happening but haent developed into a big deal...yet

@osteia: The one major event is the invasion of Sweden by Finland and Germany to liberate its people from the "psychotic" king Gustav. A bunch of other small things are also happening but haent developed into a big deal...yet

What he said. I opened up a scene from the tank school somewhere within the last page or two of the European thread.

@France: Don't forget that Japan has invaded China, a position from which it could directly threaten Indo-China, your colony.

My factbook will be delayed, as I have had quite the weekend, so I haven't had much time to do the appopriate research and info-gathering for the factbook.

However, I am still committed towards this high quality RP, and I will stick by it, come high or low water.

Thats cool, so long as your still up for it then time isn't too much of an issue.

@France: Don't forget that Japan has invaded China, a position from which it could directly threaten Indo-China, your colony.

Yeah I am going to respond to that soon...

Yeah I am going to respond to that soon...

Cool. Now...Shakal...we must discuss the future of Sweden. *grin*

Basically King Gustav will step down from the throne and forefit all rights to the royal throne of Sweden. He will also disenherit all family members from the throne as well.

Second, a provisional ruling parliament will be created with Swedish members...with the approval of Berlin of each member.

Third, the Swedish military will be entirely disarmed. The German Wehrmacht will temporarily ensure the safety of Sweden's integrety until such time as seen fit for Sweden to handle itself. German troops will occupy all major cities and ports to help ensure peace and law. Local police forces will be going under scrutiny as well.

The Swedish navy is to surrender all its vessels to the Germans and are to dock port at Stockholm. Navy personnel will be dismissed from services. The same goes for the fledgeling Swedish airforce.

Failure on King Gustav's part to see these things done will end in the German Wehrmacht marching on Stockholm and the complete destruction of the Swedish armed forces in the name of peace and justice. King Gustav will be offered assylum in East Prussia or a court martial before a panel of your peers (aka a panel of government rulers from your neighboring countries).

So, there are my terms. :D

I decided to make it interesting in Indochina.... Not sure where I am gonna take this.

I decided to make it interesting in Indochina.... Not sure where I am gonna take this.

It was very interesting.

I decided to spice things up in the Orient as well...

@Reco: Yea, things got cut off at '38.

Fixed.

So, Thrashia, is the meeting between the Fuhrer and Nygaardsvold basically finished, or are there other matters for them to discuss?

Guys, I need to know what is the current geo-political situation in the Americas in this alternate timeline. Did major communist, Nazi, or capitalist movements rise up, or did governments change, and so forth (diverging from historical events and trends in the Americas)?

Please let me know! Thanks!

Guys, I need to know what is the current geo-political situation in the Americas in this alternate timeline. Did major communist, Nazi, or capitalist movements rise up, or did governments change, and so forth (diverging from historical events and trends in the Americas)?

Please let me know! Thanks!

If I am not mistaken, everything is historical up to 1938, and from there you it is up to you....? Don't take my word for it though

@ Thrashia: In the Europe rp thread, if i tell my assistant my battleplans and where to move my men you guys dont know right away correct?

That is true...

The only way they could tell is if they captured some one that knew the plan or ariel recon.

Thanks it may seem a stupid question i was jyst making sure that it wouldnt scew me in the end.

Naww, not stupid...just wanted to be sure..

I know what you mean, if Thrashia you could please Rp my arrival because i am unsure of where and when to enter because of my journey from Moscow to the tank school...

from the map i looked at, it wouldn't take that long.

However Shakal, you have to remember that the Luftwaffe does some reconnaissance over the country. It is not likely that you will manage to move large units unnoticed, atleast not long distances.

I didn't want to admit it, but this RP is too much for me. My job takes up most of my time and I simply don't have time to compose RPs that are even close to being on par with the other RPers.

Rather than slow the RP with my inability to control a state as important as Italy I will resign as the Kingdom.

I hate to do this since I've wanted to play as Italy in a WWII setting for such a long time.

I may take a smaller less important nation later on, but certainly not such an important one.

I am still waiting for replies from UK and US, I am assuming that I should just a RP meetings with them because there have been no replies for days.

OOC: I am here to post my resignation as the Soviet Union. I was eager when I first heard about this RP but lost interest. I am afraid if I hold my current position while not posting, it will kill the RP. So I want to make it on the record that I am leaving.

I am still waiting for replies from UK and US, I am assuming that I should just a RP meetings with them because there have been no replies for days.

Give me time, as I'm trying to get my stuff together, and have a better idea of the geo-politics in the Americas in this timeline. Its not easy, considering I have to catch up on my research, plus having a RL job.

damnit people! STOP LEAVING lol. Its oay if you do I guess. But make sure you have a legitimate reason. Try to drop other RP's instead because this one is just way cooler than all those other ones.

Oh sorry Sharina, I didnt even realize you were going US.

So, Thrashia, is the meeting between the Fuhrer and Nygaardsvold basically finished, or are there other matters for them to discuss?

I believe it is largely over for now. Of course if you have anything on Norway's agenda that you would like to discuss with him, then there is this oppertunity now to do so.

Guys, I need to know what is the current geo-political situation in the Americas in this alternate timeline. Did major communist, Nazi, or capitalist movements rise up, or did governments change, and so forth (diverging from historical events and trends in the Americas)?

Please let me know! Thanks!

No, things that happened up to December 30 1938 are all true. After that its up to the player. However since no one was rp'ing as America properly until now you have the choice of either letting FDR continue into his 3rd presidency position or choose some other historical figure that would or could have taken over as president in 1940.

And no, no communist, nazi, etc movement ever rose up. Its all still plane america.

I didn't want to admit it, but this RP is too much for me. My job takes up most of my time and I simply don't have time to compose RPs that are even close to being on par with the other RPers.

Rather than slow the RP with my inability to control a state as important as Italy I will resign as the Kingdom.

I hate to do this since I've wanted to play as Italy in a WWII setting for such a long time.

I may take a smaller less important nation later on, but certainly not such an important one.

Its sad to see you go Voxio, but I do indeed understand. We'll all miss you in the rp. As you said, hopefully in the near future you'll come back to us. Until then, adios amigo.

OOC: I am here to post my resignation as the Soviet Union. I was eager when I first heard about this RP but lost interest. I am afraid if I hold my current position while not posting, it will kill the RP. So I want to make it on the record that I am leaving.

Believe me when I say that I understand your position. Losing interesting in something and then trying to keep it going can be a real drag. No hard feelings at all. I will do you justice and say that I fully enjoyed rp'ing with you and will look forward to future participation together. Good luck on anything else you happen to pick up.

However if you do get back into being interested, and the post is not currently then filled, you will be allowed to step back in as the USSR at any time. Cheers mate.

Bah. People leaving already?

We need more players and activity within this RP. Do you guys have any idea how to recruit more players?

Bah. People leaving already?

We need more players and activity within this RP. Do you guys have any idea how to recruit more players?

I concur completely

i know someone who may enjoy RPing as Italy...

I'll post soon, sorry for making you all wait.


Its merely because I am still researching Nationalist China, since I know little of it until after WWII.

I believe it is largely over for now. Of course if you have anything on Norway's agenda that you would like to discuss with him, then there is this oppertunity now to do so.

Alrighty, that's good. I'm actually thinking of having some sort of major event occur in the near future in Norway (can somebody say "attempted coup?").

Cool, Chevy.

Wanderjar, did you see that link I posted? It gives you some good information, enough so as to let you start at least.

Nebarri, if you have a friend then get him. I could care less than anything else.

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I am slightly worried by how inactive this RP is.... I check it regularly, to find that there is nothing new =(

I am slightly worried by how inactive this RP is.... I check it regularly, to find that there is nothing new =(

Same here. The inactivity is starting to reduce my enthuaism and ambition- after all, I'm starting to feel like "If I do fantastic RP as the US in this RP and there's nobody to RP with or aganist, then why am I RP'ing?"

Hate to feel that way, but if we don't get more active RP'ers ASAP, this RP will stagnate.

Same here. The inactivity is starting to reduce my enthuaism and ambition- after all, I'm starting to feel like "If I do fantastic RP as the US in this RP and there's nobody to RP with or aganist, then why am I RP'ing?"

Hate to feel that way, but if we don't get more active RP'ers ASAP, this RP will stagnate.

I concur completely. It makes me sad, because there is A LOT of potential in this RP

I concur completely. It makes me sad, because there is A LOT of potential in this RP

I agree. But ican do only so much withoutknowing what my enemies are doing or have the idea to do.

I'm gonna try and get a post or two up today, or probably on Friday.

I'll ask Modokov, a friend of mine, to come and join up as either Italy or SU. He's a decent writer and knows WW2 well.

I'd be willing to take Italy, if it's still free, althought I must admit that I probably won't be able to post this weekend. If you can live with that, count me in. Mussolini won't take no as an answer.

I'd be willing to take Italy, if it's still free, althought I must admit that I probably won't be able to post this weekend. If you can live with that, count me in. Mussolini won't take no as an answer.

Italy is yours. Hitler and Mussolini have already met (last person to rp) and have made a tighter pact of friendship and alliance. Italy hasn't done much on foreign relations, but I expect you to start thinking about North Africa.

Everyone just needs to start interacting. I will be removing Ostroeuropa from control of Britain as of now, as he has failed to enter the rp. I will also be running a drive for more nations to enter the rp.

Everyone just needs to start interacting. I will be removing Ostroeuropa from control of Britain as of now, as he has failed to enter the rp. I will also be running a drive for more nations to enter the rp.

As I've stated the other day, I'm committed to this RP. I don't pass up stellar RP opporunities, and I would really hate to see this RP die as it has so much potential.

After doing some thinking, I realize that there may be two major problems that possibly hinders interest in the RP. First, the quality of this RP is high so it may intimidate newcomers with stuff like "I'm probably not good enough to RP in this" or make them feel inferior (self-esteem). The second problem is that I believe there were quite a few WW-2 RP's a while ago and that tapped-out interest in WW-2 era RP'ing.

Look at Earth 2000 for an example. Their RP still continues, because they have a very strong community. We need to form such a community here for our WW-2 RP, which would help the RP stay active. In other words, we need to encourage players not to drop out of the RP. In addition, I'm not saying we need to dumb-down our RP quality. Far from it! What we do need to do though, is to make new players not feel intimidated, and make sure the RP community is open, friendly, and sociable.

As I've stated the other day, I'm committed to this RP. I don't pass up stellar RP opporunities, and I would really hate to see this RP die as it has so much potential.

After doing some thinking, I realize that there may be two major problems that possibly hinders interest in the RP. First, the quality of this RP is high so it may intimidate newcomers with stuff like "I'm probably not good enough to RP in this" or make them feel inferior (self-esteem). The second problem is that I believe there were quite a few WW-2 RP's a while ago and that tapped-out interest in WW-2 era RP'ing.

Look at Earth 2000 for an example. Their RP still continues, because they have a very strong community. We need to form such a community here for our WW-2 RP, which would help the RP stay active. In other words, we need to encourage players not to drop out of the RP. In addition, I'm not saying we need to dumb-down our RP quality. Far from it! What we do need to do though, is to make new players not feel intimidated, and make sure the RP community is open, friendly, and sociable.

**Starts tearing up** That...that was beautiful.

As I've stated the other day, I'm committed to this RP. I don't pass up stellar RP opporunities, and I would really hate to see this RP die as it has so much potential.

After doing some thinking, I realize that there may be two major problems that possibly hinders interest in the RP. First, the quality of this RP is high so it may intimidate newcomers with stuff like "I'm probably not good enough to RP in this" or make them feel inferior (self-esteem). The second problem is that I believe there were quite a few WW-2 RP's a while ago and that tapped-out interest in WW-2 era RP'ing.

Look at Earth 2000 for an example. Their RP still continues, because they have a very strong community. We need to form such a community here for our WW-2 RP, which would help the RP stay active. In other words, we need to encourage players not to drop out of the RP. In addition, I'm not saying we need to dumb-down our RP quality. Far from it! What we do need to do though, is to make new players not feel intimidated, and make sure the RP community is open, friendly, and sociable.

Quoted for extreme truthfulness

Thank you Sharina for your inspiring words. I charge you wish helping to proclaim our cause and help recruit more rp'ers. Thanks! ;)

I have someone who is interested, but they want the USSR, I can't remember if we have a USSR or not.

P.S. Can we update the nations part of the thread. It doesnt have anyone down for France....

^^Tell him to come because Red Tide left

I have someone who is interested, but they want the USSR, I can't remember if we have a USSR or not.

P.S. Can we update the nations part of the thread. It doesnt have anyone down for France....

Bring him along, and yes I will be updating the first page right now.

I have someone who is interested, but they want the USSR, I can't remember if we have a USSR or not.

P.S. Can we update the nations part of the thread. It doesnt have anyone down for France....

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Славы Революция!

Славы Ио́сиф Шталин!

This is me applying for the USSR - but I won't have much time to get stuff rolling tonight. This is a great lookout as far as I've seen and heard - hope that it works!!!

edit - I've made the picture a url - hope that it works. I'll try to get something concrete this weekend - RL sucks for me atm...

Welcome. I ask only one thing though...could you remove the pic so it doesn't expand the thread out so much that people have to scroll sideways? hehe. Welcome and don't worry about anything too strenuious tonight.

Oh snap! Alif! Thank god its you!

Shakal, that post was rather shitty. You gave me no chances of responding to your actions before stating the outcome, which is generally called "godmodding".
I won't post that "German troops destroyed the Swedish forces in Stockholm within three hours and shot the king, securing the country during the next week", either. That's not how RP works.
So, Hausser didn't die like that, sorry. I'm fine with him getting wounded and some of his staff officers dying, and the troops having difficulties as the attack somewhat surprised them, but not completely. Germans have a well working intelligence service, and remembering the situation and opposition within the Swedish population it's rather impossible that this offensive of yours, preparing the troops and the conducting the assault would have come just out of nowhere for our forces.

"Your main character died as he was shot, haha, live with that" doesn't work, however. I will not recognize it like that.
I'll try to post an IC reply tomorrow morning, too tired for decent typing now.

Shakal, I find your post guilty of god-moding. I am telling you to change it as soon as possible. If you're set on taking a suicidal course such as you display, then you may do so. However you are in no way able to declare another rp'ers character dead. Nor are you able, under the edicts of your surrender, able to create a military offensive.

Your armed forces have surrendered and Stockholm is surrounded. You as King can choose what to do with that situation as you please. But be reminded that you now have very limited resources and options if you wish to stay alive and keep your country's people happy. So...change the post.

Sorry about that. But that was my plan the whole time. I said a while ago that the main army was gatheering around vaxjo and you said nothing. The generals were informed not to surrender. anyway the point is ill change the post.

Sorry again.

Well I guess I'll drop my two cents.
I think that though Shakal may have GM'ed a little, we should still let the tanks go to Boden. I have had a recon pilot shot down, two new divisions created in Finland, five battalions move into Boden, fortification of the town, and a search and rescue party sent out to save the downed pilot, all because of those tanks and such. I really dont want it to go to waste so please let him go on with the tank assault. This is just my opinon and you don't have to agree/follow through with what I request if you don't want to.

ooc: I rarely, if ever deviate from Earth V. But this RP looks promising.

But there is a tiny problem.

Yugoslavia did not fight as a single nation. It was divided up amungst the Chetniks (Serbs), the Ustase (Croats), and later the Communist patrisans (Led by Croats).

At any rate, I would like to be Great Britain if it has not already been taken.

ooc: I rarely, if ever deviate from Earth V. But this RP looks promising.

But there is a tiny problem.

Yugoslavia did not fight as a single nation. It was divided up amungst the Chetniks (Serbs), the Ustase (Croats), and later the Communist patrisans (Led by Croats).

At any rate, I would like to be Great Britain if it has not already been taken.

Welcome, and yes GB is yours for the taking.

@ Shakal: Your post can stand as it did. I'll let it slide for now. However the shooting of Hausser did not take place. While your generals are free to act, the king in his situation cannot. By his stepping down at that moment he makes its so he is politically free from blame in that a Sweden general went rogue against the order to surrender. So keep it that way.

@ Cand: That should settle things.

Thashia: could you post Germany sending a few troops to beden for me? those tanks will be there soon...

Thashia: could you post Germany sending a few troops to beden for me? those tanks will be there soon...

I already have a regiment of Wehrmacht soldiers stationed there. They took over Boden after you left. They're equipt with anti-tank 37mm Pak cannon; good enough to take on anything that the Swedish forces can throw. And thats about 1,000 Wehrmacht soldiers in the Boden area as well. No worries.

I'll get to posting later.

ThraSHIA: oh...lol. Did you get the post where I told Kesselring that I had to disobey orders to move out? Because I stated that I was reinforcing Boden and the surrounding area. I sent 5 Battallions there and they have begun fortifications and set up a civilian shelter in the old Fortress.

ThraSHIA: oh...lol. Did you get the post where I told Kesselring that I had to disobey orders to move out? Because I stated that I was reinforcing Boden and the surrounding area. I sent 5 Battallions there and they have begun fortifications and set up a civilian shelter in the old Fortress.

Yea, its all implied/understood.

^Aight cool

@Thrashia: Thanks i never meant to be that blunt but if i would have hinted at an assasination attempt even though through the rp you couldnt react it would have affected your decisions subconciously.

Thanks again.

Shakal, are you fully aware of just how many troops I have in Sweden right now?

I'll list them for you according to the cities they occupy.

Ystad: 1 Regiment
Malmo: 1 Panzer Brigade, 2 Rifle regiments
Lund: 1 Panzer Brigade, 2 Infantry divisions
Karlskrona: 1 Infantry division, 1 Light Panzer Brigade
Kalmar: 2 Infantry Brigades
Hassleholm: 1 Light Panzer Battalion, 2 Rifle Regiments
Vaxjo: 1 Infantry Brigade
Varnamo: Light Recon Brigade, 1 reinforced Infantry regiment
Nassjo: 1 Panzer company, 3 Infantry companies
Oskarshamn: 1 Infantry regiment
Vastervik: 1 Infantry regiment
Linkoping: 2 Infantry companies
Motala: 1 Infantry regiment, 1 motor-cycle brigade
Norrkoping: 1 paratrooper company
Nykoping: 1 Infantry company
Sodertalje: 1 Infantry company
Stockholm: 1 reinforced Panzer Division, 2 Infantry divisions
Uppsala: 1 Panzer Brigade, 2 Infantry Battalions
Boden: 1 Infantry Regiment
Lulea: 1 Infantry Brigade, 1 Light Panzer Brigade


Very effectively, I have 200,000 soldiers occupying Sweden. I've already taken full possession of your navy and your air force. Your ground forces are all you have.

Now, according to your last post, you surprised some germans in a tank and tried taking it captive...not gonna happen. You have not previously rp'd any active troops near Stockholm. The nearest you got was when you had one man walking away from the city with a rifle in hand. Thats not an army.

Your men attacking Boden and wherever Tingstyd is, I accept as being there. However your other two parts are not acceptable under present conditions concerning their viability. Please change them.

Shakal: I just want to warn you that you are in for a fight in Boden. Not only are there many Anti-tank weaponry and the captured fortress under my possession, but the Finnish were experts at the art of killing tanks and such. Tens of thousands of Soviet tanks were destroyed or captured by the Finnish during WWII. And I'd hate to say it, but the Soviet ones were most likely better than your tanks. What kind of tanks do ou have anyway? I'm not trying to be an ass but I just want to make it clear what the deal is before anyone starts yelling. "OMGWTF!?!?!?!? HOW DO YOUR GUYS DO THAT UNFAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIR."

@Recolitus: I'm wondering if we could set up some kind of dramatic capture of Quisling somewhere in France. I've got him heading towards Dunkirk to meet up with some French National Socialists, so perhaps we could have some sort of joint French-Norwegian hunt/capture of him.

That sounds good to me, except for the whole French/Norwegian. With the way the Nord's have been acting, I don't think the French government would let them in even if their Prime Minister has been murdered. But I do like the idea of getting Quilsing.

I would think that the French government would allow a small group of Norwegian agents to enter the country if they were able to provide information as to where will go from there. Other than that, I dunno.

Ok that sounds reasonable. 2 French and 2 Norwegian, joint task force. Sound good to you?

Sounds like a plan.

I've been racking my brain lately in trying to come up with a plausible alternate history "path" for my US to take. So far, I've only come up with three "alternatives".

1. US doesn't get attacked by the Japs at Pearl Harbor (thus the US isn't "forced" into war with the Axis)

2. Some kind of discontent at home or possible shifts in neighboring nations geo-politics.

3. Lord Halifax gains more support in the UK.

Are any of these plausible events, or should we make event 2 or 3 occur in the NPC nations just to make stuff more interesting? I don't want to end up following exact historical US, as that wouldn't be alternate history after all.

If you guys can tolerate me being gone for 3 weeks, I've got finals coming up and they are starting to hurt me. In the meantime, I will try a sincere effort to get involved, but if you can't wait or someone else more interested comes along, pass me along - I'll find another time to crush the Germans as the Soviets [again, I might add...].

But I wish this RP luck if I do not return to it. Merry hunting :D

Hey, just one question - has Italy invaded Albania? I jumped in in the middle of this, so I'm not full aware of the moves the last guy rp'ing Italy did...

Hah...it'd be funny if I could be Yamamoto.

Hey, just one question - has Italy invaded Albania? I jumped in in the middle of this, so I'm not full aware of the moves the last guy rp'ing Italy did...

No, it didn't.

Hey, just one question - has Italy invaded Albania? I jumped in in the middle of this, so I'm not full aware of the moves the last guy rp'ing Italy did...

Nope, not yet.

Pyschotika, if you're up to it, talk it out with Waldenburg.

On that note, has Waldenburg been active? And Reco, have you been operating at all in the South-East Asian thread? Same goes for whoever is britain...if we have a britian again.

Nope, not yet.

Pyschotika, if you're up to it, talk it out with Waldenburg.

On that note, has Waldenburg been active? And Reco, have you been operating at all in the South-East Asian thread? Same goes for whoever is britain...if we have a britian again.


Not really because nothing has been happening =/, I tried to make it interesting but it seems that there is no activity in that thread.

Not really because nothing has been happening =/, I tried to make it interesting but it seems that there is no activity in that thread.

Thanks for trying. Until we get some more hardcore rp'ers it might be good just to stick with the European Threatre of things (ie north africa as well).

Yeah I agree. I am trying hard to get France more interactive with other nations. Up until recently France was more or less being ignored =P

Chevy you just had to do that didn't you =P

Also, are you going to make a formal request, or is that basically you asking me? lol

Hmm, which part?

Edit: I think I might actually RP out the request, probably tomorrow though.

Ok sounds fine to me, I need to go to bed anyways =P

On that note, has Waldenburg been active?

Yes Waiting for you in fact but whatever.

Psycho
As for Yamamoto, you can have the whole country without a reliable China I'm not intereasted. I'm leaving the Rp as Japan possibly coming back later if I can find RL Intereast in time.

Is this RP dead or what?

No, just very slow for now. IF it would help...I can declare it temporarily stalled and have everyone take a break from it. Then in due time (say around after everyone has seen Saving Private Ryan and A Bridge Too Far a few times) I wil resurrect it by sending everyone TGs informing them of it.

I would rather not do that, because not everyone will want to come back. We need to figure out a way to get people interested again.

Agreed. I request that everyone contact someone else they know that can to come and sign on.

may i be Great Britain?

may i be Great Britain?

Yes you can. Happy to have you. Just read the first page, first post, and you'll get a feeling for the rules. If need be just scan through some the BS and stupid questions in this thread to get the general idea of what people had questions about.

Do you want a recap recent events?

Yes you can. Happy to have you. Just read the first page, first post, and you'll get a feeling for the rules. If need be just scan through some the BS and stupid questions in this thread to get the general idea of what people had questions about.

Do you want a recap recent events?

Yes please. And the IC link is on the first page?

Yes please. And the IC link is on the first page?

Yes, IC link is on the first page. It will show you a list of the different threads: one for each threatre of combat (ie Europe, East-Asia, etc).

Thus far no major war has broken out. We started in 1938, all events that happened for real historically had already taken place, but then became out own to make different history.

Sweden's King killed the Swedish parliament and attempted to create a new absolute monarchy. Germany on the pretext of removing this tyrant invaded and now occupies Sweden, along with allied Finnish troops.

France has begun a campaign of awareness, trying to convince other countries that Hitler and Germany are not to be trusted. Germany has been rapidly re-arming since 1936 and France has begun re-arming itself since 1940.

The year right now is 1941.

Norway's Prime Minister was killed by ursurping fanatical nazi supporters (but with no connection with Nazi Germany) and the killer has fled to France. Norwegian and French special agents have teamed together to find and either kill or capture the man.

Japan has invaded China and has begun sweeping aside all defenses. Thus far no major European power has opposed them except by simply frowning on them and making a lot of noise through political channels.

The US has not done much other than continue on its policy of isolationism. the Soviet Union and Germany have been pulling together closer and closer, with new trade deals made and an alliance emerging.

That is the situation thus far.

WOW!:eek: Ok, I'll try something that might start a war or uprising.

One more question.....Is my leader Churchill or can I make something up?

One more question.....Is my leader Churchill or can I make something up?

Well since war hasn't broken out Churchill would remain a minor member of parliament. So I guess you can make someone up or use Neville Chamberlain.

What, is this dead now? Trashia, why haven't you posted? Shakal, where are you?

Yea...unfortunately, this is dead. It is sad.

Because you killed it. Well, your RP, so can't complain... but it was fun as long as it lasted! Thanks for that, anyways.

I hope this isn't dead, I'm still interested.

If some of you wish to continue on (in this case Reco and Chevy) for your chase, then why not just take it into your own seperate thread. It would be a cool spy/assassin/special agent rp you two can have concentrating around what happened already in here. *shrugs*