NationStates Jolt Archive

With the growing number of attacks upon the nations ruled by a royal, noble, or a family Dynasty the Scandinvan Empire has decided to revive an old alliance proposal which has long sat in the halls of the House of Lords unused. So now after being pushed through both the Parliament and the House of Lords, by the urging of the Emperor, it has now been passed and approved by the High Council of the Emperor, which could have been passed through without the approval of the legislative branch of government. As well, the government has reformed the old charter to fight into the current times and also has made a number of new terms for their to be a more exclusive membership then to allow possible enemies or spies in.

So now the Scandinvan Empire has sent out a request for all interested nations to join the Grand Imperial Alliance so as to create a strong force in the world that is a force of nations working together for their common benefit in a confederacy of free monarchies.

Mission:
The mission of the Grand Imperial Alliance is to act as a common force for the greater good of the alliance and to preserve the traditional forms of governments in the member nations of the Alliance. Further, the purpose of the alliance is also help generate the members states and preserve their sovereignty within the member states own boundaries.

Charter:
Article 1:
1. In order to join a nation must have a reigning or a visible monarch in special cases.
2. That the reigning monarch be one that holds a good deal of political power and not just a ceremonial person.
3. Addressing to the latter case in sub-section 2 a nation may join in that scenario after approval of the position of the monarch by the governing council.
4. A newly created monarchy that applies shall be observed (a real week) by the Governing Council then their membership shall be decided.
5. Communist or socialist nations shall be allowed to join if they are approved by the governing council.
6. In the case of acceptance of new members four current veteran members most agree for them to enter the Grand Imperial Alliance.

Article 2:
1. That all alliance members agree to honor the respective sovereignty and boundaries of other members.
2. That every single member shall their best to aide the other members of the alliance during cases of rebellion, invasion, or civil war. (This is subject to interpretation by the Governing Council.)
3. That no member commits any act of sabotage, war, or violation of sovereignty.
4. All members maintain diplomatic discussion with other members in the case of conflict, until it is appealed to the Governing Council.

Article 3:
1. All members shall maintain a standing army in both times of war and during peace time to a smaller degree.
2. Nations military forces shall act to supplement the standing army of the Alliance.
3. The standing army of the Alliance shall be made up of volunteered forces of the alliance.
4. If a member does not supply soldiers to the Alliance’s army then they shall be recommended to either supply supplies of money to help maintain it.
5. During times of serve war portions of member states armies shall, if needed, fall under the command of the Alliance’s War Council.
5. In the case of a member invading another nation in defense of a reigning or possessing an existing monarch, the member nation shall have the right to appeal for aide to the alliance.
6. In the case of a nation having invaded another nation, without the contingency of sub-section 5 of article 2, then member nations shall be request to not appeal to the Alliance, but if aide is requested to other members of alliance through different means then their shall be no concern to the greater Alliance.
7. In the case of an invasion of nation, as addressed in sub-section 6, in which the member nation is itself pushed back and invaded the Alliance, upon hearing the case, will aide that member that is being invaded.

Article 4:
1. Nations shall allow trade from members states nations.
2. The amount of imported goods to each nation shall be controlled by each separate member.
3. No embargoes of another member nation shall be imposed by another member.
4. The economies shall be left strictly under the control of the member nations.

Article 5:
1. The Governing Council shall be for the times selected by myself until the first elections.
2. Three permanent seats shall be held on the Governing Council by nation I chose. As well, as another six seats shall be elected by the General Assembly.
3. The Governing Council shall have the say on the members that are addressed in article 1.
4. The Governing Council shall be made up of representatives of nations that are elected.
5. The Governing Council shall work with a body of representatives of the other member states.
6. The General Assembly shall have the power to overrule the Governing Council with a super majority vote, which shall be 2/3 vote.
7. The General Assembly shall be the ones who introduce resolutions and have the final say on weather or not for the entire alliance to go to war.
8. The one who controls the finances shall be decided after the first election.
9. The War Council shall be made up of representatives of every nation.
10. The War Council shall have five higher seats.
11. The Higher Seats shall have the power to implement resolutions.
12. The Higher Seats shall be elected by the General Assembly, except one seat shall be reserved for the Scandinvan Empire.
13. The War Council shall have ultimate say on the Alliance’s Army.
14. The War Council’s purpose is to manage the deployment of soldiers and of resources.

Governing Council:

Permanent Seats:
1. The Scandinvans: Lord Olaf Erida
2. Maraque: Kwaku Kwadwo
3. Icovir: Muhammad Ali Abdul-Jabbar ibn Hussein Al-Misri

Elected Seats:
1. Dai Yuddha Ossyria
2. Granate
3.
4.
5.
6.

War Council:

Higher Seats:
1. The Scandinvans: Lord Godfrey Erida
2. Granate: Fmr. Lt. Col. Nikolai Venin
3. Moorington: Anthony von Drekcsler
4. Shazbotdom
5. Irixia

Every other member has a seat on the War Council.

General Assembly:
Made up of all members.

Standing Military:

Scandinvan Forces:
1,600,000 Scandinvan Regulars
40,000 Machine Gun Crews
12,000 Humvees
10,000 Trucks
8,000 Heavy Artillery Pieces
12,000 Light Artillery Pieces
9,000 Armored Personal Carriers
2,100 F-18s
2,900 F-16s
10,000 Commanches
6,000 Black Hawks
12 Battleships
8 Heavy Aircraft Carriers
20 Cruisers
50 Destroyers

Maraque Forces:
1,500,000 Imperial Guard Troops
5,000 F-107 Fighters
2,500 B-207 Bombers
17,500 T-307 Light Tanks

Granate:
750,000 Granatian Regulars.
7,000 Tiger MBT
1,500 Behemoth II HBT
250 F-19 Fighters
1,000 A-7 Fighters

Dai Yuddha Ossyria
2 Kiev-class Aircraft Carriers
4 Slava-class Cruisers
4 Rogov-class Amphibious Assault Ships
8 Sovremenny-class Destroyers
10 Neustrashimy-class Frigates
8 Akula-class Submarines
22 Flyvefisken-class Multi-role Vessels for Patrol and Surveillance
22 Tarantul-class Missile Boats
8 Segura-class Mine Warfare Vessels
4 Supply-class Fast Combat Support Ships

200 MiG-29 "Fulcrum" Fighters and MiG-31 "Foxhound" Fighters
65 Tu-160 Blackjack Bombers
1,800 Rooivalk Attack Helicopters
36 E-3 AWACS Surveillance Aircraft
16 C-17 Globemaster III Tactical Transports
16 Global Airtanker KDC-10 Tanker Aircraft
48 Phoenix Unmanned Aerial Vehicles

750,000 Infantry
2,720 T-90 Main Battle Tanks
5,570 BTR-90 Armoured Personnel Carriers
670 Smerch 9K58 Multiple Launch Rocket Systems
1,610 M720 Combat Engineer Vehicles

[NS]ICCD-Intracircumcordei:
Facilities-
2 ground based airstrips as well as acompanying underground bases
1 Advanced Medical Facility
1 tracking /intel facility
3 ports/ naval repair facilities.
3 industrial areas for vehicle repair and refit
2 industrial areas for materials maitenance aquisitoins and production
3 fibreoptics cable lines
3 communications satalittes
1 sensors satalite
Naval
1 dragonstar submersible carrier (super heavy carrier)
1 dragonnova submersible carrier (super heavy carrier)
3 generation 1 emrgency situations carriers (medium surface carrier)
1 generation 2 emergency situations carrier (medium surface carrier)
10 transport subs
2 2nd generation transport subs
10 1st generation supercaviated tactical response subs
5 2nd generation
20 1st generation stealth missle corvets
5 2nd generation stealth missle corvets
2 anti projectile fleet defence ships
(with accompanying equipment/vehicles etc..)
3 super tanker transport/mass cargo carriers
Land Forces
10 MCT-1 MK 9's
20 MCT-1 MK 8's
40 MCT-1 MK 7's (technology upgrades)
100 MCT MK 6's (technology upgrades)
200 McT MK 5's (material changes)
300 Mct MK 4's (technology upgrades)
600 MCT MK 3's (material changes)
1000 MCT MK 2's (EW upgrades)
1200 McT MK 1's (originals)
(2000 front end assorted construction attachments)
(500 front end mine clearance attachments)
(a few other front end attachments for various uses)
15000 combat dune buggies
3000 IAPC-1's (assorted 30%, troops/cargo transports 70%)
2000 IAPC-2's (assorted 60%, medical 40%)
300 IAPC-3's (200 intel/devestation 50 medical 50 assorted)
5000 MATT-1 (medium airlift tanks)
50 MATT-2 (stealth model/special forces)50,000 Imperial Gaurd Forces in additon to crews and facility staff
and assosiated command staff
50 generation 1 Dian black helicopters (locusts)
20 generation 2 Dian black helicopters (locusts)
10 generation 3 Dian black helicopters (locusts)
1 generation 4 Dian black helicopters (locusts)
300 light trainers /recon and non stealth pickup and dropoff non workhorse
50 tilt rotor troop/cargo aircraft
3 Supernova long range Hypersonic Bombers / intel / stealth
10 blackhole medium range hypersonic Fighter Bombers / intel / stealth
20 quasar short range hypersonic interceptors
300 SU-47 Dian Armarment and Naval Capable modfied Fighters
200 Dian Mercury class Air defence Inteceptors
3 AN 225 type tranport aircraft
10 large cargo transport aircraft (designed for MCT lift capable operations)
30 700 series boeing style military modified troop transports
3 "VIP transports"
4 reentry space based dropships
10 Be-42 dian modified search and rescue aircraft
3 Be-12P-200 dian modified firefighting/antiincinerary and/or wide area biochem weapons delivery aircraft
3 Be-103 dian modified sea capable emergency response aircraft
2 Be-200 dian modified liquid drop tanker (forest fires/ incenerary etc..)
20 Il-76 Candid (poor condition take off dian modified)
5 Ka-126 Hoodlum (dian modiefied rotorcraft
10 Ka-50 Kokum (dian modified attack helicpoters)
10 Ka-32 A Helix (dian modfied multiroll helicopter
3 Mi-26 Halo (multiroll "supercopters" dian modified)

Gente Del Agua:
2,000,000 Grand Imperial Jimuhn Regulars
Twenty Thousand Leopard II Tanks

Bartonstein:
100,000 soldiers

Irixia:
10, 000 Imperial Troopers
2, 000 Tanks & Other Heavy Machinery
2, 000 Aircraft (1200 Bombers & 800 Fighters)
1, 000 Warships

Candidacy:

Higher Seats:
Laquasa Isle

Elected Seats:


Members:
*The Scandinvans* (Founder, Permanent seats on the War and Governing Councils)
*Maraque* (Permanent seat on Governing Council)
*Granate*
*Shazbotdom*
*Icovir*
*Dai Yuddha Ossyria*
*Moorington*
*[NS]ICCD-Intracircumcordei*
Nova Aquaria
Bartonstein
Gente Del Agua
Bekhaera
Rashari
Laquasa Isle
Nuevo Italia (partial member)
British Londinium
Irixia
St Samuel
The Sith Clan

OOC: * * means a nation is a veteran member of the GIA.

Link to GIA Forum:
http://z8.invisionfree.com/The_GIA/index.php

OOC: Any questions or comments?

Updates

Added Military Section
Added new sub-sections in Article 3

OOC: I don't have a military, is that alright?

OOC: I don't have a military, is that alright?OOC: Yeah, as you a large and I have rped with your nation in the past and have seen it society with added I did ask you join and you were polite in responding, but it is recommended that you keep a reasonably sized trained force (not necessarily a standing army) in case of war and/or also to have well trained defense force for your nation. So once you agree to join the alliance you will be added.

OOC: Alright. I'd like to join then.

Accepted

Note, Article 1 pretains to info about joining.

The Republican Monarchy of Granate wishes to join this alliance.

OOC: Although technically, I am a Republic like the US, the King is the De Facto Pres in all but name and with alot more power. He can declare war, dismiss members of the Parliament, enact certain laws, ect, ect.

The Democratic Constitutional Monarchy of the Secular Empire of Maraque thanks the Scandinvan Empire for allowing us entrance into this most esteemed alliance.

The Republican Monarchy of Granate wishes to join this alliance.

OOC: Although technically, I am a Republic like the US, the King is the De Facto Pres in all but name and with alot more power. He can declare war, dismiss members of the Parliament, enact certain laws, ect, ect.The Scandinvan Empire accepts your registration to the alliance and we thank you showing your interest and in joining the Alliance.

OOC: With that in consideration your are accepted, because let us look at it after the Restoration of the monarchy in England your monarch would still have more overall power then the English king.

The Democratic Constitutional Monarchy of the Secular Empire of Maraque thanks the Scandinvan Empire for allowing us entrance into this most esteemed alliance.We are humbled by your mighty and kind response to joining the Alliance.

The Alliance requests that all members either contribute soldiers of money to it for the purpose of both expanding the Alliance’s military and for the reason of the need of being able to support its forces.

The Democratic Constitutional Monarchy of the Secular Empire of Maraque will contribute $400 billion towards the alliance, and will later announce the amount of soldiers it can spare.

The Alliance thanks you greatly for your donation which shall keep for the armed forces of the Alliance going for a good deal of time. As well, we wish to tell after such a heavy donation and your proposal to aide the Alliance even more you will be granted a permanent seat in the Governing Body if you desire, just name your representative then your seat shall be approved.

The Secular Empire humbly accepts your offer for a permanent seat on the Governing Council. Our representative shall be Kwaku Kwadwo.

The Alliance has now placed your representative on a permanent seat on the Governing Council, if you wish to ever change your representative then feel free to request to.

OOX: By the way what do you think of the charter?

OOC: It's great. Very detailed and thought out.

IC:

After much consideration the Secular Empire of Maraque has decided to contribute 1,500,000 Imperial Guard troops to the alliance, as well as 5,000 F-107 Fighters, 2,500 B-207 Bombers, and 17,500 T-307 Light Tanks.

OOC: Thanks, any suggestions to improve it though? By the way if you want can you suggest any nations that I could try to recruit?

IC: The Alliance greatly thanks you for your continuous support of the Alliance and shall in turn consider you one of the Alliance’s truest members and in turn list you among one who can be turned to for aide.

IC:

I thank you dearly for such an honor and promise to keep true to being a nation of great service to this grand aliance.

OOC: I think it's as good as it's gonna get, unless Granate or another potential member can think of anything else, it looks pretty sound to me.

I'm not sure if I know of any right now, but I'll give it some thought and get back to you.

IC: The Alliance wishes to say that is stands for the preservation of the traditional values of honor, loyalty, and fellowship which it hopes to foster between its members.

OOC: Quite well then as I spent a couple hours thinking it out. As well, for new members I have telegrammed a couple more nations, but my goal for the alliance is at least nine members or more, so every nation that joins does make a difference.

OOC: Sounds good to me. Nine is good. I hope this alliance turns out to be great and doesn't die out like so many before it.

OOC: Well, I am already making plans to aide a number of nations currently embroiled in civil war with monarchies with Alliance soldiers coming in and restoring and then in return the aided nations join the Alliance or sign a pact of cooperation with the Alliance.

OOC:
Scandinavians. Not sure why you invited me to join this. My nation isn't ruled by a monarch, the Supreme Emperor is elected every 10 years by the people of the Dark Empire. There is no line of succession at all and no royal family of any kind. So ICly I cannot join as i do not meet your requirements.

OCCly speaking though, I believe that this alliance is sort of a good idea for those nations that arn't allowed in other alliances because of the type of government that they have. I've noticed that a lot of monarchy nations are denied entry into other alliances because of the fact that they have a monarchy. So keep up the good work.

1. In order to join a nation must have a reigning or a visible monarch in special cases.
2. That the reigning monarch be one that holds a good deal of political power and not just a ceremonial person.OOC: Well, in the term I recognize people, whose nation has a leader that has a traditional, not necessarily an ancient one, where a signal title of that of a ruler and your nation does have a visible person with a title of Supreme Emperor. As well, you apply to special case because I invited you and also because I admire your rping style and skills and have reason to believe, if you join, that you would be a very good part of the alliance. Added the Polish monarch was elected in times past so you do fill the requirement as there is a real example of it that is widely accepted as the Polish monarch being a royal, even though they were not necessarily even a major noble. So in short terms yes I did invite you to join.

OOC:
I'll think about it. I'll get back to ya sometime within the next 24 RL hours with my answer.

OOC: Alright, then I shall await your answer.

The Republican Monarchy of Granate wishes to add these forces to the Alliances.

750,000 Granatian Regulars.
7,000 Tiger MBT
1,500 Behemoth II HBT
250 F-19 Fighters
1,000 A-7 Fighters

The Alliance thanks Granate for the soldiers who will help to expand the might of the Alliance’s armed forces. Also, we now have decide to give you one of the higher seats and just select your representative and you will be given the seat.

OOC: Note, that that is not a permanent seat.

We would be happy to accept a posistion on the War Council. We ourselves pride ourselves on our Advanced Fighting Force. Our represenative will be Fmr. Lt. Col. Nikolai Venin.

The Alliance thanks you for filling the position and for your continued support.

OOC: I have begun to offer the aide of the Alliance to a number of monarchies that in a struggle so as to expand or ranks and preserve monarchies.

OFFICIAL IMPERIAL PROCLIMATION

TO: The Leadership of The Grand Imperial Alliance
FROM: Larry Williams, Minister of Foreign Affairs

There has been much debate between the other Ministers, The Supreme Emperor, and myself about this issue. Our decision in this matter is that we will join this alliance on a probationary status until such a time as we feel that we have the resources to join this alliance on a full-time basis. We are already streached a little thin in our Diplomatic Corps so this is just to make sure that we have enough people to go between all the different alliances that we are a part of.

Your contact within the Dark Empire of Shazbotdom's Diplomatic Corps will be a Mrs. Shannon Mattucci. She has served in the Diplomatic Corps for 15 years and is a former member of the Shazbotdom Marine Corps. Her views are held in the highest regard by the Supreme Emperor, the other Ministers, and myself. You may reach her by her e-mail. It is matticcu.shannon@foreignaffairs.shaz

We thank you for your time and paitence.

TO - THE SCANDINVANS EMPIRE
FROM - THE CALIPHATE OF ICOVIR
MESSAGE:

Icovir has read the Charter of this alliance, and feels that this is exactly what Icovir needs. We are, however, a Communist nation. According to the Charter, we'll have to wait approval.

If we are allowed to join, we are willing to donate $500 billion immediatly. We will also donate 1,400,000 Standing Troops into the Alliance Army (with more details later).

Our Representative will be current Senator Muhammad Ali Abdul-Jabbar ibn Hussein Al-Misri.

We look forward to hearing from you in the near future on our membership.

Caliph Victor I

OFFICIAL IMPERIAL PROCLIMATION

TO: The Leadership of The Grand Imperial Alliance
FROM: Larry Williams, Minister of Foreign Affairs

There has been much debate between the other Ministers, The Supreme Emperor, and myself about this issue. Our decision in this matter is that we will join this alliance on a probationary status until such a time as we feel that we have the resources to join this alliance on a full-time basis. We are already streached a little thin in our Diplomatic Corps so this is just to make sure that we have enough people to go between all the different alliances that we are a part of.

Your contact within the Dark Empire of Shazbotdom's Diplomatic Corps will be a Mrs. Shannon Mattucci. She has served in the Diplomatic Corps for 15 years and is a former member of the Shazbotdom Marine Corps. Her views are held in the highest regard by the Supreme Emperor, the other Ministers, and myself. You may reach her by her e-mail. It is matticcu.shannon@foreignaffairs.shaz

We thank you for your time and paitence.The Alliance shall await until the time you feel that you have the resources to join the Alliance fully. As well, when you are fully able to join the Alliance fully all you need to do is inform the Alliance and your status shall change to a full member of the Alliance.

TO - THE SCANDINVANS EMPIRE
FROM - THE CALIPHATE OF ICOVIR
MESSAGE:

Icovir has read the Charter of this alliance, and feels that this is exactly what Icovir needs. We are, however, a Communist nation. According to the Charter, we'll have to wait approval.

If we are allowed to join, we are willing to donate $500 billion immediatly. We will also donate 1,400,000 Standing Troops into the Alliance Army (with more details later).

Our Representative will be current Senator Muhammad Ali Abdul-Jabbar ibn Hussein Al-Misri.

We look forward to hearing from you in the near future on our membership.

Caliph Victor IThe Alliance’s representatives have done a background check on you and with the support of the Scandinvan Empire for your nation joining it has been decided that your nation may join immediately. We apologize for the waiting time as we put the observation in effect for communist nations as a compromise for the more conservative elements of the people who helped to write the charter of the Alliance. As well, we have decided to give you a permanent seat on the Governing Council in the hopes of having the conservative Scandinvan Empire, the more liberal Secular Empire of Maraque, and the socialist/communist Caliphate of Icovir so as to create a balanced group of permanent seat holders. Just name your representative and you will be added to the Governing Council.

OOC: What I am trying to do is to make a kind of balance in the permanent seats.

The Alliance has learned of the need of America Democratic's King Romano and has decided to raise the issue to the other members of the Grand Imperial Alliance and asks would you agree to disptach troops for that conflict in order to install the true king of that land?

The Democratic Constitutional Monarchy of the Secular Empire of Maraque does not agree with engagement. The "true king" is the democratically elected official President Carter, which is not King Romano.

The Alliance has withdrawn its idea of support as we have recently learned that the would be king has no prior claim to the throne and further the ‘king’ wanted to make his nation into a dictatorship which would possibly be a very good sign of the possibility that is might in the entirety of its people to live an existence of their own in peace and knowing that they are secure.

The Alliance has decided that the charter shall now be final and from now any alterations shall have to be voted by a super majority of the members.

OOC: Anyone have any nations that might make a good member of this alliance?

OOC: We seem to be in competition with another Monarchial Alliance, ironically called the Monarchy Alliance.

OOC: I have seen it and I thank you for pointing out though as I have looked at it more closely and they are getting more members, mostly smaller nations though, which has presented us with a dilemma in the terms that they are attracting more possible members that would possibly have joined us. So in turn I suggest that for a time we attempt to attract more members and keep on them before we take ant action, unless if you all do not mind me asking for a pact of non-aggression with their peoples.

The Imperial Federation of Dai Yuddha Ossyria formally petitions the members of this prestigious alliance for membership.

*Our reigning monarch is The Most Sanctified and August Sage-Emperor of All Under Heaven and Defender of All Beings Markos IV Orlan.

*Our nation is ruled by a tricameral legislature and a democratically elected Federal President and Prime Minister. The Sanctified Emperor, though, holds a great amount of power and is the spiritual leader of the Dai Yuddhist religion.

*We agree to honor the sovereignty and boundaries of all other allies.

*We are willing to mobilize forces in times of civil war, rebellion, invasion, etc.

*We swear to refrain from acts of sabotage, war or violation of sovereignty.

*We will open diplomatic relations with all members of the Alliance.

*We currently maintain a standing army and will contribute soldiers, money, and supplies to any coalition formed in times of crisis.

*We will open trade to all Alliance members and we will refrain from embargoes on fellow members.

We hope you seriously consider our application. While our nation is very byzantine and hierarchal, we feel that we will add a moderate voice to the council.

The Democratic Constitutional Monarchy of the Secular Empire of Maraque agrees with the notion that we should attempt to establish friendly relations with this "Monarchy Alliance" and forge a Non-Aggression Pact between its members.

We support The Imperial Federation of Dai Yuddha Ossyria for entry into the Grand Imperial Alliance. We beleive they will be firm and honorable allies.

We thank the great and honorable nation of Granate for their support in our bid for membership.

The Democratic Constitutional Monarchy of the Secular Empire of Maraque also believes The Imperial Federation of Dai Yuddha Ossyria would be a much valued member of this alliance.

The Imperial Federation of Dai Yuddha Ossyria formally petitions the members of this prestigious alliance for membership.

*Our reigning monarch is The Most Sanctified and August Sage-Emperor of All Under Heaven and Defender of All Beings Markos IV Orlan.

*Our nation is ruled by a tricameral legislature and a democratically elected Federal President and Prime Minister. The Sanctified Emperor, though, holds a great amount of power and is the spiritual leader of the Dai Yuddhist religion.

*We agree to honor the sovereignty and boundaries of all other allies.

*We are willing to mobilize forces in times of civil war, rebellion, invasion, etc.

*We swear to refrain from acts of sabotage, war or violation of sovereignty.

*We will open diplomatic relations with all members of the Alliance.

*We currently maintain a standing army and will contribute soldiers, money, and supplies to any coalition formed in times of crisis.

*We will open trade to all Alliance members and we will refrain from embargoes on fellow members.

We hope you seriously consider our application. While our nation is very byzantine and hierarchal, we feel that we will add a moderate voice to the council.The Alliance thanks you for your interest and you are weclome to join it.

We thank the Empire of the Scandinvans for their support and we would be honored to join the Grand Imperial Alliance.

OOC:
Just a note to The Scandinavians. You may see some posts from me in that Monarch Alliance thread, but just so you know i'm not a member. None of them know how to use invisionfree so i just threw up a phpBB board on my web host for them to use.

OOC: That would be oh so mean.

OOC:
Granate. I know what your thinking. I'm not giving the URL away. I may be mean but i'm not that mean.

The High Chancellor, Maxen von Bismark; who rules as king of the Bismark family and the unified position of Prime Minister, Chancellor, State Treasurer, and party chairman is greatly interested in this organization whose qualities:

"Embody everything that is good and just under the eyes of God".

While something of a zealot when it comes to God, he makes sue his profit margins are very thick before deciding tithe is something he can do.

Special Directive Units, a darker, and more precise organization similar to the Secret Service and likes modeling itself after the infamous Nazi brownshirts, is Maxen's right hand. More commonly known as The Iron Fist its precision, and meticulous warfare style is good for any urban warzone, or better yet taking out undesirable political figure heads.

Hopefully this first allotment of 250 SDU personnel will sate the appetite of the alliance for this first initiation period.

As our government has now received confirmation of membership within the Grand Imperial Alliance, we have allocated a military force to serve in the Alliance's Multinational Armed Forces;

2 Kiev-class Aircraft Carriers
4 Slava-class Cruisers
4 Rogov-class Amphibious Assault Ships
8 Sovremenny-class Destroyers
10 Neustrashimy-class Frigates
8 Akula-class Submarines
22 Flyvefisken-class Multi-role Vessels for Patrol and Surveillance
22 Tarantul-class Missile Boats
8 Segura-class Mine Warfare Vessels
4 Supply-class Fast Combat Support Ships

200 MiG-29 "Fulcrum" Fighters and MiG-31 "Foxhound" Fighters
65 Tu-160 Blackjack Bombers
1,800 Rooivalk Attack Helicopters
36 E-3 AWACS Surveillance Aircraft
16 C-17 Globemaster III Tactical Transports
16 Global Airtanker KDC-10 Tanker Aircraft
48 Phoenix Unmanned Aerial Vehicles

750,000 Infantry
2,720 T-90 Main Battle Tanks
5,570 BTR-90 Armoured Personnel Carriers
670 Smerch 9K58 Multiple Launch Rocket Systems
1,610 M720 Combat Engineer Vehicles

We have expended much of our budget to fund this endeavor and we hope that it goes to good use. Glory to the Alliance!

The Holy Empire Of Intracircumcordei firmly beleives in the spirit of this alliances mission statement. The Emperor of Intracircumcordei is entrusted by the Imperial Sejm, a body of life long dedicated civil servants. That bear Royal Rank, the entire system is rather complex *see this primer for more info (http://z11.invisionfree.com/iccd/index.php?showtopic=10) and this for a little more detail (http://z11.invisionfree.com/iccd/index.php?showtopic=2)
*3. That no member commits any act of sabotage, war, or violation of sovereignty. (on any other member of the alliance?, except in cases of self defence where an alliance member breaches the rule of the alliance thus removing their protection from attack in the instance of breach of alliance articles)

ICCD will alocate 200 Billion annually towards building Dian Forces within this alliance, concerning the alliances needs. And is willing to hear requests for filling the needs of the alliance in ICCD's method of aquisitions specific to this alliance should it be granted membership.

Also in times of real war, of an actual context, ICCD would be prone to greater and total war support as deemed by the Imperial Casa Militar and Curia.


Logothe of the Drome, Holy Empire of Intracircumcordei
x.~~~~~~~~~~~

The High Chancellor, Maxen von Bismark; who rules as king of the Bismark family and the unified position of Prime Minister, Chancellor, State Treasurer, and party chairman is greatly interested in this organization whose qualities:

"Embody everything that is good and just under the eyes of God".

While something of a zealot when it comes to God, he makes sue his profit margins are very thick before deciding tithe is something he can do.

Special Directive Units, a darker, and more precise organization similar to the Secret Service and likes modeling itself after the infamous Nazi brownshirts, is Maxen's right hand. More commonly known as The Iron Fist its precision, and meticulous warfare style is good for any urban warzone, or better yet taking out undesirable political figure heads.

Hopefully this first allotment of 250 SDU personnel will sate the appetite of the alliance for this first initiation period.The Alliance has looked at your nation with a good deal of detail and research and has decided to allow you to enter due to the condition of the fact that in the charter is says that a nation ruled by a monarch, with definition being read in a different way, could be said that your nation embodies a number enough things to qualify as a monarch, though it is suggested that you take a more suitable title. So we also shall tell you know that the total number of Special Forces of the Alliance are not listed on any document so you get the idea. Thank your interest and commitment to the Alliance and we believe you will make a great member.

As our government has now received confirmation of membership within the Grand Imperial Alliance, we have allocated a military force to serve in the Alliance's Multinational Armed Forces;

2 Kiev-class Aircraft Carriers
4 Slava-class Cruisers
4 Rogov-class Amphibious Assault Ships
8 Sovremenny-class Destroyers
10 Neustrashimy-class Frigates
8 Akula-class Submarines
22 Flyvefisken-class Multi-role Vessels for Patrol and Surveillance
22 Tarantul-class Missile Boats
8 Segura-class Mine Warfare Vessels
4 Supply-class Fast Combat Support Ships

200 MiG-29 "Fulcrum" Fighters and MiG-31 "Foxhound" Fighters
65 Tu-160 Blackjack Bombers
1,800 Rooivalk Attack Helicopters
36 E-3 AWACS Surveillance Aircraft
16 C-17 Globemaster III Tactical Transports
16 Global Airtanker KDC-10 Tanker Aircraft
48 Phoenix Unmanned Aerial Vehicles

750,000 Infantry
2,720 T-90 Main Battle Tanks
5,570 BTR-90 Armoured Personnel Carriers
670 Smerch 9K58 Multiple Launch Rocket Systems
1,610 M720 Combat Engineer Vehicles

We have expended much of our budget to fund this endeavor and we hope that it goes to good use. Glory to the Alliance!OOC: Thanks we needed a large naval force at the time most of all.

IC: The Alliance thanks you for your substantial support to the mission and purposes of the Alliance and in turn the Alliance shall look after your people to the best of our ability.

ICCD-Intracircumcordei;11982845']The Holy Empire Of Intracircumcordei firmly beleives in the spirit of this alliances mission statement. The Emperor of Intracircumcordei is entrusted by the Imperial Sejm, a body of life long dedicated civil servants. That bear Royal Rank, the entire system is rather complex *see this primer for more info (http://z11.invisionfree.com/iccd/index.php?showtopic=10) and this for a little more detail (http://z11.invisionfree.com/iccd/index.php?showtopic=2)
*3. That no member commits any act of sabotage, war, or violation of sovereignty. (on any other member of the alliance?, except in cases of self defence where an alliance member breaches the rule of the alliance thus removing their protection from attack in the instance of breach of alliance articles)

ICCD will alocate 200 Billion annually towards building Dian Forces within this alliance, concerning the alliances needs. And is willing to hear requests for filling the needs of the alliance in ICCD's method of aquisitions specific to this alliance should it be granted membership.

Also in times of real war, of an actual context, ICCD would be prone to greater and total war support as deemed by the Imperial Casa Militar and Curia.


Logothe of the Drome, Holy Empire of Intracircumcordei
x.~~~~~~~~~~~The Alliance is more then willing to accept you as a member as you fulfill all the qualities that we are looking for and more then that. As well, we thank you for the monetary contributions that we have given you. Further, you will be granted a spot on the higher council candidacy for the Higher Seats when elections come along.

OOC: The Sejm like Poland I guess?

OOC: What I am trying to do is to make a kind of balance in the permanent seats.

OOC: Sounds pretty good.

IC: Our representative will be Muhammad Ali Abdul-Jabbar ibn Hussein Al-Misri.

That is great news.

Logothe of the Drome, Holy Empire of Intracircumcordei
x. ~~~~~~~



OOC: (writting sorta tired) The conceopt of the Seym is taken from poland but it is tweaked into a more formal organizational body.

essentially it is sort of like congress in matter of impeachment, they also act as an emergency governing body during emergencies.

different ranks have a different number of votes. from 7 to one (the viscounts)

the emperor has like 7 or so (former emperors do as well - they never fully quit but their executive powers become reserved for states of emergencies.
the raining emperor decides on who will be the "area administrators" at the highest level as well as imperial post administrations such as foreign, tresury, and the secretariat (or information related).

the ceasars chosen by the emperor (multiple ceasars) administer the areas but are also "high court officials" and have specific court powers. ceasars are chosen from kings or imperial senators.

kings are the head councillors of a provincia (like a major division of a continent like a country like italy or england etc..) and bring together the provincial level the military, courts etc.. their role is most administrative making sure things run smoothly but they also have court as well as princes who are chosen by the king for pincipalities within a province (like a state in the uS sorta), but princes also sit in the house of lords etc.. etc..

visconts are chosen from the provincial senate, which is chosen by the house of lords from the house of commons. when there is a vacancy.. likewise when there is a count vacancy, a viscount is promoted to the rank.

meanwhile in the house of commons roles are from the judicial, secretariate or military or viscounts and barons

there is a parallel court ranking but depending on what side appeals the hearing goes to a specific place.. if the prosecution appeals it goes to the administration, if the defendant appeals then it goes to the "regular courts" which are houses of sorts, but are like mansions not prisons, but with high security, for the safety of everyone, with rooms and communal dining etc.. not like "a prison". death, exile and release are the only court orders, but can be accompanied with release conditions. like a bond or probation.

so to make a long story short.

so the seym in my model is like "the government", it comes from the people, but is "legacy based" meaning that the current ruer chooses who administers, from the pool below it, but the people decide who starts the pool, the pool then decides who should be eligible to be part of the "life time" administration, like the senate in canada, but they actually "administer" thus they are both administrators and legislators, and have executive "organizational capacities" and special roles.

(the imperial senate, is a little different, it is more on the cabinet side and very important roles, such as imperial divisional leaders, and major city heads.
and a handful 4 or so representatives from each provincia/kingdom.

so the provincia's make thier own law from what isn't already made at the imperial level, and the senate manage change in the empire as a whole, bigger issues. but there are a number of feeders to it.

The seym takes on the same role as a sort of body of nobels, but differs in some respects, that it is composed by the emperor, because he picks the cesears (may appoint or fire them, or transfer them to another duty) and the ceasars pick the kings and so on. so while the seym may replace the emperor, there are failsafes, that is, the seym must agree, then the gens and civis must agree. if the gens and civis agree 100% to either side then the sitation is probably a major administration change of some sort (thus reserved for huge issues) if there is a tie 1-1 then the military basically decides. (complex.. long answer..

sorta like the old polish seym, but a little more formal and defined

For priority use of Imperial Alliance purposes, as requested, otherwise may be used for Dian needs.
Facilities-
2 ground based airstrips as well as acompanying underground bases
1 Advanced Medical Facility
1 tracking /intel facility
3 ports/ naval repair facilities.
3 industrial areas for vehicle repair and refit
2 industrial areas for materials maitenance aquisitoins and production
3 fibreoptics cable lines
3 communications satalittes
1 sensors satalite

Naval
1 dragonstar submersible carrier (super heavy carrier)
1 dragonnova submersible carrier (super heavy carrier)
3 generation 1 emrgency situations carriers (medium surface carrier)
1 generation 2 emergency situations carrier (medium surface carrier)
10 transport subs
2 2nd generation transport subs
10 1st generation supercaviated tactical response subs
5 2nd generation
20 1st generation stealth missle corvets
5 2nd generation stealth missle corvets
2 anti projectile fleet defence ships
(with accompanying equipment/vehicles etc..)
3 super tanker transport/mass cargo carriers
------------
Land Forces
10 MCT-1 MK 9's
20 MCT-1 MK 8's
40 MCT-1 MK 7's (technology upgrades)
100 MCT MK 6's (technology upgrades)
200 McT MK 5's (material changes)
300 Mct MK 4's (technology upgrades)
600 MCT MK 3's (material changes)
1000 MCT MK 2's (EW upgrades)
1200 McT MK 1's (originals)
(2000 front end assorted construction attachments)
(500 front end mine clearance attachments)
(a few other front end attachments for various uses)

15000 combat dune buggies
3000 IAPC-1's (assorted 30%, troops/cargo transports 70%)
2000 IAPC-2's (assorted 60%, medical 40%)
300 IAPC-3's (200 intel/devestation 50 medical 50 assorted)

5000 MATT-1 (medium airlift tanks)
50 MATT-2 (stealth model/special forces)

50,000 Imperial Gaurd Forces in additon to crews and facility staff
and assosiated command staff

---------
air
50 generation 1 Dian black helicopters (locusts)
20 generation 2 Dian black helicopters (locusts)
10 generation 3 Dian black helicopters (locusts)
1 generation 4 Dian black helicopters (locusts)

300 light trainers /recon and non stealth pickup and dropoff non workhorse

50 tilt rotor troop/cargo aircraft

3 Supernova long range Hypersonic Bombers / intel / stealth
10 blackhole medium range hypersonic Fighter Bombers / intel / stealth
20 quasar short range hypersonic interceptors
300 SU-47 Dian Armarment and Naval Capable modfied Fighters
200 Dian Mercury class Air defence Inteceptors

3 AN 225 type tranport aircraft
10 large cargo transport aircraft (designed for MCT lift capable operations)
30 700 series boeing style military modified troop transports
3 "VIP transports"
4 reentry space based dropships
10 Be-42 dian modified search and rescue aircraft
3 Be-12P-200 dian modified firefighting/antiincinerary and/or wide area biochem weapons delivery aircraft
3 Be-103 dian modified sea capable emergency response aircraft
2 Be-200 dian modified liquid drop tanker (forest fires/ incenerary etc..)
20 Il-76 Candid (poor condition take off dian modified)
5 Ka-126 Hoodlum (dian modiefied rotorcraft
10 Ka-50 Kokum (dian modified attack helicpoters)
10 Ka-32 A Helix (dian modfied multiroll helicopter
3 Mi-26 Halo (multiroll "supercopters" dian modified)

(in geneal modifications add some modernication as well as ka37 functions, as well as some technology/software pilot interface upgrading and armarments standards to dian standards)

---------

this force is not yet standardized or compiled into force operations or rounded out for supply, but gives an idea of an introdctory assistance force.

More forces for various rolls can be added as required, this force wil be rolled out over the next few years. For the time being it will be stationed in various areas of the Empire, but if a situation developes or contigency planning then the forces can be repositioned.

crew numbers are not shown here, but in general 3 crews for every crewable peice of equipment + maitenance and support staff.

also 50 patriot (dian modified) batteries
and 20 mobile THEL systems
(and various other equipment)

The Britannic Empire of British Londinium, and its Dual Monarchy, would like to join this alliance.

ICCD-Intracircumcordei;11986646']For priority use of Imperial Alliance purposes, as requested, otherwise may be used for Dian needs.
Facilities-
2 ground based airstrips as well as acompanying underground bases
1 Advanced Medical Facility
1 tracking /intel facility
3 ports/ naval repair facilities.
3 industrial areas for vehicle repair and refit
2 industrial areas for materials maitenance aquisitoins and production
3 fibreoptics cable lines
3 communications satalittes
1 sensors satalite

Naval
1 dragonstar submersible carrier (super heavy carrier)
1 dragonnova submersible carrier (super heavy carrier)
3 generation 1 emrgency situations carriers (medium surface carrier)
1 generation 2 emergency situations carrier (medium surface carrier)
10 transport subs
2 2nd generation transport subs
10 1st generation supercaviated tactical response subs
5 2nd generation
20 1st generation stealth missle corvets
5 2nd generation stealth missle corvets
2 anti projectile fleet defence ships
(with accompanying equipment/vehicles etc..)
3 super tanker transport/mass cargo carriers
------------
Land Forces
10 MCT-1 MK 9's
20 MCT-1 MK 8's
40 MCT-1 MK 7's (technology upgrades)
100 MCT MK 6's (technology upgrades)
200 McT MK 5's (material changes)
300 Mct MK 4's (technology upgrades)
600 MCT MK 3's (material changes)
1000 MCT MK 2's (EW upgrades)
1200 McT MK 1's (originals)
(2000 front end assorted construction attachments)
(500 front end mine clearance attachments)
(a few other front end attachments for various uses)

15000 combat dune buggies
3000 IAPC-1's (assorted 30%, troops/cargo transports 70%)
2000 IAPC-2's (assorted 60%, medical 40%)
300 IAPC-3's (200 intel/devestation 50 medical 50 assorted)

5000 MATT-1 (medium airlift tanks)
50 MATT-2 (stealth model/special forces)

50,000 Imperial Gaurd Forces in additon to crews and facility staff
and assosiated command staff

---------
air
50 generation 1 Dian black helicopters (locusts)
20 generation 2 Dian black helicopters (locusts)
10 generation 3 Dian black helicopters (locusts)
1 generation 4 Dian black helicopters (locusts)

300 light trainers /recon and non stealth pickup and dropoff non workhorse

50 tilt rotor troop/cargo aircraft

3 Supernova long range Hypersonic Bombers / intel / stealth
10 blackhole medium range hypersonic Fighter Bombers / intel / stealth
20 quasar short range hypersonic interceptors
300 SU-47 Dian Armarment and Naval Capable modfied Fighters
200 Dian Mercury class Air defence Inteceptors

3 AN 225 type tranport aircraft
10 large cargo transport aircraft (designed for MCT lift capable operations)
30 700 series boeing style military modified troop transports
3 "VIP transports"
4 reentry space based dropships
10 Be-42 dian modified search and rescue aircraft
3 Be-12P-200 dian modified firefighting/antiincinerary and/or wide area biochem weapons delivery aircraft
3 Be-103 dian modified sea capable emergency response aircraft
2 Be-200 dian modified liquid drop tanker (forest fires/ incenerary etc..)
20 Il-76 Candid (poor condition take off dian modified)
5 Ka-126 Hoodlum (dian modiefied rotorcraft
10 Ka-50 Kokum (dian modified attack helicpoters)
10 Ka-32 A Helix (dian modfied multiroll helicopter
3 Mi-26 Halo (multiroll "supercopters" dian modified)

(in geneal modifications add some modernication as well as ka37 functions, as well as some technology/software pilot interface upgrading and armarments standards to dian standards)

---------

this force is not yet standardized or compiled into force operations or rounded out for supply, but gives an idea of an introdctory assistance force.

More forces for various rolls can be added as required, this force wil be rolled out over the next few years. For the time being it will be stationed in various areas of the Empire, but if a situation developes or contigency planning then the forces can be repositioned.

crew numbers are not shown here, but in general 3 crews for every crewable peice of equipment + maitenance and support staff.

also 50 patriot (dian modified) batteries
and 20 mobile THEL systems
(and various other equipment)We thank you greatly for your aide and contributions to the Alliance.

The Britannic Empire of British Londinium, and its Dual Monarchy, would like to join this alliance.You are hearby welcomed into the Alliance.

The Alliance has learned of the need of America Democratic's King Romano and has decided to raise the issue to the other members of the Grand Imperial Alliance and asks would you agree to disptach troops for that conflict in order to install the true king of that land?

Is there a backgrounder? Once we know what nations are involved ICCD can offer greater advice on how it thinks the situation from it's perspective is best dealt.

GIA special ambassador Amban Zouk Chei auf Hall, Office of the Logothe of the Drome, ICCD

ICCD-Intracircumcordei;11986782']Is there a backgrounder? Once we know what nations are involved ICCD can offer greater advice on how it thinks the situation from it's perspective is best dealt.

GIA special ambassador Amban Zouk Chei auf Hall, Office of the Logothe of the Drome, ICCDDue to the fact that he wished to implent a new monarchy without the apporval of the people and against the elected goverment it was decided to not send forces in, this was also due to the disapporval of a member nation.

I am currently involved in a civil war in the nation of Bramstoker on the side of the Theocratic Fascist government. It is not ruled by a monarch, though, but I'd just put that out there for anyone that would like to get involved.

The link is here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=506840).

The Alliance has looked at your nation with a good deal of detail and research and has decided to allow you to enter due to the condition of the fact that in the charter is says that a nation ruled by a monarch, with definition being read in a different way, could be said that your nation embodies a number enough things to qualify as a monarch, though it is suggested that you take a more suitable title. So we also shall tell you know that the total number of Special Forces of the Alliance are not listed on any document so you get the idea. Thank your interest and commitment to the Alliance and we believe you will make a great member.

Thank you for your gracious viewpoint, Moorington will forever be ready to destroy the progressive elements wherever they may be found, and to be a stuanch follower of popular monarchy.

Sadly, there are a few liberal influences in the country, and the deception that the chancellor is indeed a chancellor, not a monarch, is needed. Tradition counts for a good majority of the decisions reached in the Mori Shakem and dukedoms. Much less the chancellory.

Thank you for your gracious viewpoint, Moorington will forever be ready to destroy the progressive elements wherever they may be found, and to be a stuanch follower of popular monarchy.

Sadly, there are a few liberal influences in the country, and the deception that the chancellor is indeed a chancellor, not a monarch, is needed. Tradition counts for a good majority of the decisions reached in the Mori Shakem and dukedoms. Much less the chancellory.The Alliance encourages you to maintain a popular monarchy so that your people might remain truly content in themselves and so that your people would be able to thrive, but as part of mission the Alliance shall not take direct action against any member.

I am currently involved in a civil war in the nation of Bramstoker on the side of the Theocratic Fascist government. It is not ruled by a monarch, though, but I'd just put that out there for anyone that would like to get involved.

The link is here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=506840).The Alliance has decided not to commit any of its own forces from going to fight in this war as it will remain neutral, but will not prevent any members from taking a side in this yet it will tell members if there are members on both sides of the war against each other the Alliance will take direct action.

Moorington will stand by the higher ideals of the alliance.

(Besides, it looks like it won't get off its feet.)

Moorington will stand by the higher ideals of the alliance.

(Besides, it looks like it won't get off its feet.)The Alliance shall support you as long as you remain a member in the defense of your nation.

(In general feel free to keep the government you have as long as you like as it keep basic liberties to its citizens and those of other member nations, but the rest can in general go to hell.)

Oh no, I don't think just defense,

I support Monarchs like the best of them. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11989299&posted=1#post11989299)

Oh no, I don't think just defense,

I support Monarchs like the best of them. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11989299&posted=1#post11989299)OOC: Good for you.:D

OOC: British Londinium if you want help with your civil war the Alliance can help, but you must first appeal for aide.

Candidacy shall now be accepted for places on the Governing Council.

I wish to become a candidate for the Governing Council. Is there anything that should be told regarding what the Council does?

No, there are no other things as not defined by the Charter currently, but that may possibly change.

Although we already hold a position on the War council, the Republican Monarchy wishes to also hold a posistion on the Governing Council. We will endeavor to place good represenetive on the Council should we be elected.

If you a supply an able person then you may also hold another elected seat.

OOC: To say voting will be done by TGs to me.

OOC: I am looking for some where to set up a private poll/forum can anyone help?

OOC; You can setup an invisionfree forum.

OOC: I could do it. But I would need someone with Photoshop skills to make any graphics. As of now I could only changed the skin and basically keep the forum running. I'll see what I can get to work.

The Britannic Empire of British Londinium requests aid in reconstructive efforts after our devastating civil war. Reinforcements to help protect against the Atopian threat is also requested.


Also, the Empire shall donate Divisions V, III, and IIX (20,000 troops each), three squadrons of RAMC Curiatii fighters (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/RAMC_Curiatii), two squadrons of stealth strategic bombers (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/RAMC_Virtus), an aircraft carrier, two SSNs and three SSBNs to the Alliance forces once our civil war is successfully over and conflict has ended.

http://z8.invisionfree.com/The_GIA/index.php

All I've got so far. I still need to upload the buttons and stuff.

OOC:
You should set usergroups and restrictions upon those usergrounds. Such like Visitor, Member, Partial-Member, Governing Council, etc. And setting restrictions upon them would help to make the Visitors not be able to post in area's where you want only members to post.

I'll sign up on the forums, just note that I am not a full member. I'm a partial-member.

OOC: As I said. It's a start.

OOC:
Argh. My internet is crapping up.
Major fixes, like adding usergroups and forums is post-poned until I figure why the hell it is doing this.

OOC: By the way can you set me to a mod?

I will. The board will be offline till I get it up to snuff. Expect it up in a few days.

The Alliance has decided to dispatch troops into British Londinium in the defense of them from their evil occupiers. Does anyone agree?

The Republican Monarchy of Granate heartly agrees. We have been watching with much distaste as the Nation of British Londonium was ravaged.

Even though we are not a full member. We abstain as we haven't been following this.

The Alliance member of the Scandinvans has already pledged 2,000,000 of their soldiers plus equipment to this cause and are waiting for the approval of more members.

OOC: If you want help on the board I am more then willing, just as long as I do not have to write any coding.

The Democratic Constitutional Monarchy of the Secular Empire of Maraque will abstain until we are able to assess the situation much closer.

OOC:
TSm...Well. I was working on the images but I forgot the username to the imagecave account I made.

Even though we are not a full member. We abstain as we haven't been following this.OOc: Alright then, but you do now I could just make a full member in a snap and you don’t have to contribute military forces even though it would be nice if you gave a few billion to help.;)

We shall await more decisions and until then we will send people to help the resistance.

OOC:
Scratch that. Username was right, had password wrong. It was the same as Granate's password. Duh.
:headbang:

OOC:
Check le Forums Now.

Images should display the proper way. Now all that you need is a Logo that can go up at the top. And i'll tweak a few more images to take the place of some more of the default images that didn't have replacements in the image pack. I'll do that tonight when i'm at my computer which has Photoshop.

OOC:
Shaz. You're in the group of Partial Members, but you should have access to the Admin Control Panel.

OOC:
Shaz. You're in the group of Partial Members, but you should have access to the Admin Control Panel.

OOC:
I don't have Admin powers. Well it says I don't. Try it again in the Admin CP. I'm in the process of making a few more images, such as the small circle near the navigation line, the report to Admin button, the Mini Profile Button, the moved topic button and a few more. If anyone also has an idea for where the "Invision Power Board" image is at the top of the screen, then drop me an E-Mail at brian.armbruster@gmail.com or send me a Telegram through My Nation page on the NationStates (http://www.nationstates.net/shazbotdom) web site.

ICCD is willing to assist in reconstructive efforts and upon receiving more information in regard to the Atopian threat ICCD can offer advice on how it feels it is best to proceed, and allocate the needed resources.


Essentially our support will likely be somewhere within our allocation to the alliance.

Communique via secure channel from Praetor Razanno

OOC: it is recommended that you maybe post this to the alliance board.

The Imperial Federation agrees with the Scandinvans and Granate and we will allow Ossyrian forces which we have committed to the Alliance to participate in reconstruction efforts.

The Democratic Constitutional Monarchy of the Secular Empire of Maraque also agrees with deployment.

Emperor Adrian Vorbett I extends his hand to this honarable alliance, seeking full membership, proud to be allied with such nations.

Weclome, to the GIA.

OOC: You read the charter that fast? Another speed reader it seems.

OOC: Or they just skipped the Charter and decided to sign up. Like me. I didn't even read the charter until I was in the Alliance.

OOC: Alright, then you are booted out of the Alliance until you take the quiz.




Just Joking!;)

bump for new members

The Alliance hereby extends an offer of 2,000,000 soldiers, 50,000 vehicles, 12,000 tanks, 6,000 helicopters, and 4,200 aircraft are to Nova Aqauria.

Hmmm.... this will take many hours of meditation. Except the gift or- I'll take it. :):) :) :) :) :) :)

The Alliance nation of the Scandinvans also offer an aide package of 585 billion USDs to help rebuild your nation.

Thanks, but it hasn't been destroyed?

I am referring to helping you like rebuild your army and other things that might have been damaged by the occupation and invasion.

Oh, you mean that thing with Nero? He backed out, I think. Thanks though!

Alright then, I hope you come out of the occupation well enough.

Nova Aquaria's Armed Forces
Peacetime Average Total Fighting Men Count (2.5% + 2.5 Million: 2,500,000)
War Time: 3,000,000 (The Military is a large source of jobs for Nova Aquaria)

Branches:
Imperial Navy
*25% of Military's Manpower, 600,000 Fighting Men
*12 Battleships
*10 Heavy Aircraft Carriers
*5 Cruisers
*15 Destroyers
*1,000 F-14s
*20 XNBL-2s
*80 DB-1s
*5 nuclear submarines




Emperor's Army
*45% of Manpower, 750,000 Men
*1,000 C1 Ariete Tanks
*1,000 Type 99 Tanks
*500 Sholef Tanks
*500 Merkava Tanks
*6,500 T-90 Tanks
*1,000 T-84 Tanks
*1,000 Type 96 Tanks
*1,000 Ch'onma-ho Tanks
*1,000 Mil Mi-24 Helicopters
*1,000 Kamov Ka-52 Helicopters
*5,000 Transport Ships




Imperial Airforce
*30% of Manpower,
*1,000 F15s Fighters
*500 Agusta A129 Mangusta Helicopters
*3500 HAL Light Combat Helicopters
*100 Stealth YB-49 Bombers
*500 F22s Fighters
*300 A10
*200 F16S

Imperial Strategic Missile System
*Several hundred platforms
* 12/2/06 Arsenal totals:
*10 1 MT ICBMs
*15 5 MT ICBMs
*5 750 KT ICBMs
*1 8 MT ICMBs
*14 500 KT ICBMs






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Nova Aquaria's Armed Forces
Peacetime Average Total Fighting Men Count (2.5% + 2.5 Million: 2,500,000)
War Time: 3,000,000 (The Military is a large source of jobs for Nova Aquaria)

Branches:
Imperial Navy
*25% of Military's Manpower, 600,000 Fighting Men
*12 Battleships
*10 Heavy Aircraft Carriers
*5 Cruisers
*15 Destroyers
*1,000 F-14s
*20 XNBL-2s
*80 DB-1s
*5 nuclear submarines




Emperor's Army
*45% of Manpower, 750,000 Men
*1,000 C1 Ariete Tanks
*1,000 Type 99 Tanks
*500 Sholef Tanks
*500 Merkava Tanks
*6,500 T-90 Tanks
*1,000 T-84 Tanks
*1,000 Type 96 Tanks
*1,000 Ch'onma-ho Tanks
*1,000 Mil Mi-24 Helicopters
*1,000 Kamov Ka-52 Helicopters
*5,000 Transport Ships




Imperial Airforce
*30% of Manpower,
*1,000 F15s Fighters
*500 Agusta A129 Mangusta Helicopters
*3500 HAL Light Combat Helicopters
*100 Stealth YB-49 Bombers
*500 F22s Fighters
*300 A10
*200 F16S

Imperial Strategic Missile System (Under Development)




OOC: Looks very good and well thought.

Thanks :)

Your welcome.

When are Council elections supposed to take place?

Check the GIA forums as I have posted a thread allowing people to sign up for a seat in the elections.

The Imperial Federation has neglected to add earlier that all Ossyrian military bases will be availiable for Alliance use if necessary.

We thank you. We have sent you in thanks eight tons of gold. *Not Jokinh*;)

The Kingdom of Bartonstein wishes to be considered for entrance into this great alliance. We believe that we meet all of the qualifications that have been set forth. If any information needs to be known of us, please contact me directly.

By order of King Christian I
Minister of Foreign Affairs
Sepp Weber

Welcome, to the GIA.

The Socialist Militaristic Empire of Latica would like to join the Grand Imperial Alliance. We shall give the Alliance two million Grand Imperial Jimuhn regulars and twenty thousand Leopard II tanks. Our airforce is incredibly small and we will not be allowed to spare any air craft.

The Newly Reformed Socialist Militaristic Empire of Latica,
Emperor Xion Rien I

The Socialist Militaristic Empire of Latica would like to join the Grand Imperial Alliance. We shall give the Alliance two million Grand Imperial Jimuhn regulars and twenty thousand Leopard II tanks. Our airforce is incredibly small and we will not be allowed to spare any air craft.

The Newly Reformed Socialist Militaristic Empire of Latica,
Emperor Xion Rien IAccepted and thank you for the manpower.

Our airforce is incredibly small and we will not be allowed to spare any air craft.The Scandinvan Empire upon hearing of your need for a stronger air force has decided to grant you 100 billion dollars to help build it.

OOC: If you were in a time of war, your entire army would consist of only 2.5 million soldiers. So, I am assuming that you are not in a war. You cannot control a tank with a single person, and the support staff for 2 million tanks is just way too much for a nation your size. Even if you had the purchasing power to buy 2 million tanks, you would not be able to use half of them, let alone provide them to an alliance and still have available troops.

The Kingdom of Bartonstein is willing to give to the Alliance 100 thousand troops. We regret being so small as to only be able to support the Alliance with so few a number. In times of war, however, the entire military of Bartonstein will be at the disposal of the Alliance.

The Kingdom of Bartonstein is willing to give to the Alliance 100 thousand troops. We regret being so small as to only be able to support the Alliance with so few a number. In times of war, however, the entire military of Bartonstein will be at the disposal of the Alliance.We thank you as every little bit helps.

OOC: If you were in a time of war, your entire army would consist of only 2.5 million soldiers. So, I am assuming that you are not in a war. You cannot control a tank with a single person, and the support staff for 2 million tanks is just way too much for a nation your size. Even if you had the purchasing power to buy 2 million tanks, you would not be able to use half of them, let alone provide them to an alliance and still have available troops.

OOC: Hey, Genius, let me point out a few things. The amount of soldiers for "a nation of my size" can field is approx. fourteen million troops. And I pray that English is not your first language, because I have clearly said that I would be fielding twenty thousand Leopard II MBTs or, if this makes it easier for you, 20,000 Leopard II MBTs. I really do hope you just made a mistake, I have nothing against you, yet, but we're on a boarder here.

IC: Thank you, but we would rather ram this into increasing the quality of the weapons we use. As we already have three hundred exteremly well-made Su-47 Berkut Fighter Aircraft in our Cali(Airforce).

SIC: These funds will be sent to many armerment research projects that we are working on, such as the Challenger II's experimental armour being fitted on the Leopard II, along with a auto-matic loader, and a larger gun.

OOC: Misread there, my apologies.

OOC: Misread there, my apologies.

OOC: My apologies for going off on you. Sorry, i've just had a very moody day, my friend.

OOC: All is good.;)

IC: Alright, then if you desire to increase your helicopter amount the money shall still be on the table for you to use.

OOC: All is good.;)

IC: Alright, then if you desire to increase your helicopter amount the money shall still be on the table for you to use.

SIC: We would like the money to work on our Neo-Panzer I Main Battle Tank. This tank is the one we were describing earlier, although it is hard to find a 140 MM Rifled Cannon.

OOC: Well, I did deserve it. Good luck with the rest of your day!

SIC: We would like the money to work on our Neo-Panzer I Main Battle Tank. This tank is the one we were describing earlier, although it is hard to find a 140 MM Rifled Cannon.OOC: Alright, thanks by the way we need to find an offical store front for our group. Have any ones in mind.

IC: WE agree the money is yours to do with as you please.

OOC: In all honesty, we should probably start our own, I personally do not believe that any of them are adequate. I remember back in 2003 when all the good storefronts were around. Ahhhh good times...

IC: Bartonstein would be willing to send researchers to help you with your new tank if you wish.

OOC: Can you guys help me find the spec for the Leopard II MBT, the thickness of the Challenger II's armour, and a +120 MM Rifles Cannon?

OOC: http://www.army-technology.com/projects/leopard/ For the leopard.

OOC: TY, I looked up challenger on that sight and it didn't give me any specs for the armour.

OOC: I think that the exact stats for the armor are classified.

OOC: I think that the exact stats for the armor are classified.


OOC: They are, but all I need is an estimate.

OOC: I looked through a bunch of sites and I didn't see even that.

OOC: Damn those brit's and their secrecy. I guess I'll just make the Neo-Panzer ten metric tons lighter as i've heard the Challenger II's armour is very light. How about a +120 MM Smoothbore/Rifled Tank Cannon?

OOC:Greetings to our two new members.

I am inclined to agree with Bartonstein and believe one of our members should open a storefront, that way members will be able to get a discount.

I've also looked on various websites, and couldn't find even an estimate on the Challenger II armour thickness.

OOC: What do you need to know about it? It's standard for a few of the tanks out there. At least on the Abrams and the Leopard.

We are interested in starting a program to research cold fusion. If any nation in this alliance has this technology we would be very pleased if you would share it with us, as we are seeking to become a greener, more environmentally sound nation.

We are interested in starting a program to research cold fusion. If any nation in this alliance has this technology we would be very pleased if you would share it with us, as we are seeking to become a greener, more environmentally sound nation.

OOC:
Unless your a PMT-FT nation, cold fusion is not feasable at all.

We are interested in starting a program to research cold fusion. If any nation in this alliance has this technology we would be very pleased if you would share it with us, as we are seeking to become a greener, more environmentally sound nation.
ICCD actvely researches a wide variety of energy and would be willing to undertake a partnership to this effect.

-sonoluminescence bubble fusion
-Muon Catalyzed Fusion (no net energy)
-Pyroelectric fusion (neutron generation) issue: energy loss
-Antimatter initialized fusion (nuclear pulse propulsion)issue: antimatter cost


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There are a variety of forms of cold fusion currently available.. but each tend to have some type of draw back. Bubble and Sono Fusion seem very promising.


ICCD has a number of classified projects that you may be interested in taking part of, but it is not cheap.

If you are looking for a cheap energy source we have a large number of very cheap energy sources, depending on your environment. (MT, feasability for what, it is real and exists in a number of forms, some of this stuff has been around for decades, it just isn't good enough for widespread use, once there is a cheap source of antimatter or muons then it will kick in as a safe energy (muons. maybe not antimatter note.. there is something called 'the van allen radiation belt.. hint hint nudge nudge.. cosmic rays are far more common in space.... sorta defeats the purpose of cold energy when you put an icecube next to the sun.).

OOC: It is theoretical and being researched today, I don't see why me attempting to attain this technology is unfeasible

Perhaps it would be wise if members of this alliance could pool their resources together for scientific research. The Imperial Federation certainly has interests in researching cold fusion and other emerging technologies.

I concur. It would seem as if that would be the best option in this case. The government of Bartonstein is prepared to invest 40 billion Steinmarks ($56.4 billion) if this fund is established.

The Imperial Federation's Ministry of Research, Science and Technology would also be willing to invest an initial 50,075,000,000 Ossyrian tolars (US$50 billion) into this project if it ever gets off the ground.

The Socialist Militaristic Empire of Latica would like to donate a sum of seventy-five billion domas (75 Billion USD) to the research.

I propose we start a Committee for this research and get working on it as soon as possible.

I also propose, that the our empire's military guard it as we spend large ammounts of money on our ten million man standing army, not counting logistics and tanks. Our scientists are only far along in militaristic devices, so our capability at alchemy is quite expertise.

I agree, since large amounts of money are going to be invested. Bartonstein is also willing to put all energy research on hold and dedicate all of our experts in that field for this purpose.

The Democratic Constitutional Monarchy will donate $440 billion Maras ($885.94 billion USD) towards research and development and will also share among its members a vaccine Maraquean scientists have created that eliminates lung cancer in 98% of all cases.

Thank you very much for your contributions. Due to the implementation of your vaccine 14 new major tobacco companies have sprung up and aided our government with their revenue.

Maraquean scientists are hard at work to find a cure for breast cancer, and are already yielding a 8% success rate with the vaccine they have created thus far. They believe within another 176 months they will have it ready for public distribution, with a success rate of at least 75%.

OOC: I'd thought I'd post some stuff about my political stuff here, just for fun.


Each of the 91 provinces has 1 represenative in the Imperial Senate, elected every four years. The Senate proposes laws to the Emperor if they have a 51/100 majority. If he vetos, the law can be passed with a 3/4 majority. The Emperor acts as a president, except he can declare war on his own. This is drawn out in a constitution. The Imperial Court enforces law, and determines what is constitutional and what isn't. Nova Aquaria acts as an empire, but is mostly democratic (Imperial Republic). Citizens enjoy the freedoms of Speech, Religion, Press, Sexuality, Enterprise, Pursuit of Happiness, pretty much everything. Territory: All of US, Canada, Mexico, the carribean, along with the Imperial Territories (Sicily, Parts of Greece and lower Italy won in the 2 WWs) Three branches:

Sentorial Branch
*Senate

Judicial Branch ( Divided: Civil and Federal Courts. Justices Appointed by Emperor. 8 Justices.)
*Imperial Court
*Provincial Courts
*Local Court

Imperial Branch
*Emperor

The High Guard wishes to apply for this alliance

The High Guard wishes to apply for this allianceAccepted.

OOC:
Scandinavians, I'm going to be considering joining as a full-blown member. I'll think about this for a few days then get back to you.

BTW, my national government is rather simplistic. There is the Supreme Emperor and the Cabinet. There is no Judicial Branch, no Legislative Branch. Every decision is made by either the Supreme Emperor, the Cabinet or one of one hundred people assigned to different tasks.

Police have full say in what goes on for the Criminal Justice administration within the Dark Empire and are Arrester, Judge, Jury and Executioner (if the situatoin deems it). So basically like a Judge Dredd type of situation but with a naitonal leader.

OOC:
Scandinavians, I'm going to be considering joining as a full-blown member. I'll think about this for a few days then get back to you.

BTW, my national government is rather simplistic. There is the Supreme Emperor and the Cabinet. There is no Judicial Branch, no Legislative Branch. Every decision is made by either the Supreme Emperor, the Cabinet or one of one hundred people assigned to different tasks.

Police have full say in what goes on for the Criminal Justice administration within the Dark Empire and are Arrester, Judge, Jury and Executioner (if the situatoin deems it). So basically like a Judge Dredd type of situation but with a naitonal leader.OOC: Alright, then quite good and I hope you decide to join fully soon.

OOC: Monarch is defined as a "sovereign ruler of a state", correct? Because my nation recently changed goverance systems, and is now ruled by a corporation, with the CEO positions hereditary, and I wanted to see if my nation was still eligible for membership.

Welcome to the new member of Bekhaera. We are happy that so much support has been expressed for a Science Council, or whatever it is to be called. To Maraque, we thank you for sharing the lung cancer vaccine. Most, if not all, of our people smoke, so this will surely lead to a greater popular support for this alliance in my country.

The Royale Group asks that this Alliance order the Latican Empire to cease and desist the operation of its slave armies.

Yes, welcome to the alliance. I hope that your time here will be worthwhile and well spent.

Good luck,
King Christian I

OOC:To British Londinium, I would say yes you could join, since your leadership is akin to a monarch (but not in name). Of course, it's all up to the Scandinvans.

The Royale Group asks that this Alliance order the Latican Empire to cease and desist the operation of its slave armies.

Slave armies? What does the Latican Empire say to this accusation?

Slave armies? What does the Latican Empire say to this accusation?

Accusation, it is no accusation, it is fact. How else are we to deal with criminials? Send them back into the public system after a few years of easy prison? Once threw war, my friend, they wont want to go back. And since our criminials are only in the one hundred of thousand we have recently bought several more.

Then why refer to it as slaves, and not what it is, criminal rehabilitation.

The Royale Group asks that this Alliance order the Latican Empire to cease and desist the operation of its slave armies.

Slave armies? What does the Latican Empire say to this accusation?

OOC:
There is no text in the GIA Charter about not allowing slave armies or slaves at all for that matter. Why make a big deal about it if the Alliance charter says nothing neither condemning or condoning it? Makes no sense to me.

Yes, I agree with Bartonstein. Rather than utilize large-scale prisons, the Ossyrian Ministry of Correctional Services uses similar criminal rehabilitation programs. We don't trust our criminals to serve in combat, though, we just send them to mining camps, farming collectives, and other such places where the criminal can be confined without being exposed to society. We think you should rethink calling them 'slave armies,' and instead call them what they are to avoid future controversy.

The High Guard wishes to ask what information must it show to other members & also ehat the current topic is and thank you for accepting the High Guard

OOC: Because having one of our member nations utilising slaves is a blight on our good name.

OOC: I guess my usage of Biological and Chemical would also be a blight on us? Honesty, I don't if he uses them that way. We are all different in government, and the alliance has no say in the governments actions. They act as they want, with or without our support.

The High Guard wishes to ask what information must it show to other members & also ehat the current topic is and thank you for accepting the High Guard

Right now, we are waiting for elections to the Governing Council. We will have to wait for the Scandinvans to post something regarding that. Until then, we are just waiting for more people to join it seems.

very well :) as I've noticed recently it seems people are discussing the usage of "slaves"

I am inclined to agree with British Londinium that slaves could be a 'blight on our name,' so to speak. But, in this case, since the Latican Empire is actually using criminals and not slaves we should not concern ourselves with their methods of rehabilitation.

OOC: To Bekhaera, British Londinium accused Gente Del Agua of using slave armies, and they rebuked saying they are actually criminals. It really isn't a stated concern of this Alliance, but it's something to talk about, I guess.

ALL BELOW OOC:
OOC: I guess my usage of Biological and Chemical would also be a blight on us? Honesty, I don't if he uses them that way. We are all different in government, and the alliance has no say in the governments actions. They act as they want, with or without our support.

Exactly, I am tempted and will quote Article 2 Section 1.
Article 2:
1. That all alliance members agree to honor the respective sovereignty and boundaries of other members.


OOC: Because having one of our member nations utilising slaves is a blight on our good name.

I see that but it's HIS nation. It's not the alliance that is using slave armies, just his nation. So that shouldn't say that all the nations in your alliance utilize slave armies.

OOC: I see, well my view on it is that criminals should be rehabilated and reintroduced into society and the use of them as soldiers a last choice alternative if anything

Giving criminals weapons ideally could lead to rebellion if unchecked

OOC: I see, well my view on it is that criminals should be rehabilated and reintroduced into society and the use of them as soldiers a last choice alternative if anything

Giving criminals weapons ideally could lead to rebellion if unchecked

That is why we have not left them un-check, and why we are actually considering to buy slaves from other nations to make the bulk the army, although all-criminials will be forced to be in the army also.

ALL criminals? even those of minor crimes jailed, slavery is never a good option and one we frown upon, forcing people to serve you and die for you just because you "own" them is unthinkable

In our nation, criminals that are involuntarily placed into the military are fitted with devices that send a debilitating shock that paralyzes the criminal until regulars can insure that everyone is safely detained. Fortunately we have never had to use this system.

do you have any exceptons to the people who join the army, as in which criminals do not join the army? people of lesser crimes as it were?

OOC: Our greatest concern is exactly what Bekhaera mentioned, a slave revolt. As long as the Latican Empire keeps them under control and respects his soldier-criminals human rights (aside from imprisoning them and making them apart of the military), we will be happy.

OOC: Our greatest concern is exactly what Bekhaera mentioned, a slave revolt. As long as the Latican Empire keeps them under control and respects his soldier-criminals human rights (aside from imprisoning them and making them apart of the military), we will be happy.

Hey man, if you deprive a soldier of food, bad equipment, and force him to do manual labor he isn't much of a soldier. And he's a waste, unless you make him a full blown slave. They get treated like regualrs.

do you have any exceptons to the people who join the army, as in which criminals do not join the army? people of lesser crimes as it were?

All. We are a militaristic nation, if you screw up, you pay, in blood. Usually if it's a lesser crime it's only one year.

Forced entry into the military is only a viable option in cases such as murder, rape and crimes of that scale. Surely we would not impose that type of punishment on someone with a parking ticket.

Forced entry into the military is only a viable option in cases such as murder, rape and crimes of that scale. Surely we would not impose that type of punishment on someone with a parking ticket.

An un-paid parking ticket, we will.

OOC: That is why I do not consider your troops to be slaves, just criminals filling out their sentence.

OOC: That is why I do not consider your troops to be slaves, just criminals filling out their sentence.

OOC: Yes, but we label them slaves simply because a "criminial army" would bring too many critics.

We are militaristic but not nearly to that extent. More jingoistic than militaristic. We do not believe in rehabilitation so much as punishment, but will not overdo it.

OOC: Odd, I thought it would be the other way around, with slave armies bringing in the most critics.

and a slave army wouldnt bring as much trouble? labelling them a slave army is more harsh than a criminal army and a parking ticket would not consider them for automatic conscription?

do you offer the the choice of their punishment? serve their sentence in jail or a shortened term in the army

Who is this question directed to?

and a slave army wouldnt bring as much trouble? labelling them a slave army is more harsh than a criminal army and a parking ticket would not consider them for automatic conscription?

do you offer the the choice of their punishment? serve their sentence in jail or a shortened term in the army

We offer them two options.

1.) Join the army from 1-20 Years
2.) Don't do the crime

Sorry, can only recommend:

Article 2:
3. That no member commits any act of sabotage, war, or violation of sovereignty. (at least upon another member)

To raise the point that everyone bound to a law not of their agreement is a slave, if their freedom is violatated by that unagreed law.

Only freepersons, unbound, and living by their own law are truely free.

No one is forced to live their life by anothers rule, it is by deception and self inhibition that individuals choose a path that they claim is not agreed to them.

In many ways the psychology is crafted to beleive in concepts of freeom or slavery, when really it is the human frailty and fear of negative repercussion in that they choose subserviance over penalization.

In that respect their slavery is freeing them from their own other expected outcomes.

ICCD gives the choice to it's military to serve.
There are only three standard trial outcomes in ICCD: release, relocation or death.

Although true within our justice system there are the occassional job offers from the respective court as part of release terms, this is not slavery though, it is common agreement for a mutually benificial outcome taking into account potentials.

Everyone is free, some just are not happy. If you cannot die for your freedom then your freedom is not worth living for. It is all god regardless, got gave us freedom by union. It is our divine right to be free. It is only by our self delusion that we fall into the realm of limitation, it is only by desire that we realize failure and shortcoming. It is in rightness that we are free, it is with god that we are free. This talk of slaves is instead a talk of the confused the weak or Liars.

Communique via Imperial Proclaimation regarding the Grand Imperial Alliance Emperor Bromon Jucitiquel, Holy Empire of Intracircumcordei

Our laws are different, :-p. Gotta love Nation States.

Ok, back to the idea of forming a Science Council.

what are the list of councils?

Currently the councils are the Governing Council and the War Council. Adding another one in my opinion is really bad. A Science council makes no sense. It puts further power into the Alliance and could force a nation to do thinkgs it didn't want to do.

So here's my schpeel.

If you want to work together on scientific improvements do so. Just don't try to make all of us do it. It should be a nations, and that nation alone, choice weather it researches these things.

Sorry, due to issues in Article 2 there cannot be a Science Council.

Emperor Shaddai would like to personally request the admittance of the Empire of Rashari into the Grand Imperial Alliance.

We would like you to know that at this time we are dealing with a rebellion in our empire and it that disqualifies us than we will swiftly try to resolve the matter ourselves but would like to request help in ending this matter. Our empire has long been forgotten in a region of the world long ago left to itself.

Please let us know on your decision.

Emperor Shaddai would like to personally request the admittance of the Empire of Rashari into the Grand Imperial Alliance.

We would like you to know that at this time we are dealing with a rebellion in our empire and it that disqualifies us than we will swiftly try to resolve the matter ourselves but would like to request help in ending this matter. Our empire has long been forgotten in a region of the world long ago left to itself.

Please let us know on your decision.As long as you still hold a proper claim to the throne you may request to join as a member and such you are now welcome with open arms.

As for the rebels once all is done the Scandinvan Empire shall give you 800,000 soldiers to help you in your fight agaisnt them.

We would request that three corps of our Bulshivok units be able to fight on your behalf. This will be complimented by two hundred Super Cobra and two thousand Leopard II MBTs.

We would request that three corps of our Bulshivok units be able to fight on your behalf. This will be complimented by two hundred Super Cobra and two thousand Leopard II MBTs.Alright, you may send them.

OOC: For the time being I am the de facto leader of the GIA, at least until the elections as currently we are still organized.

The Kingdom would also be honored if you would allow 2 battalions of members of the Royal Protection Force to fight on your behalf.

OOC: At the moment it is mostly guriellia fighting but the 3rd Imperial Guard have defected. I tried to start a thread but no one seemed interested. Here is the link:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=510729&highlight=Rasharnia

If interested jump in.

IC:

Emperor Shaddai sends his thanks for the admittance and help with our troubles. We will do our best to add our strength to the Alliance.

The progress on the Neo-Panzer I-1 Prototype Main Battle Tank is near completetion and the prototype is up for sale. If you help, significanlty in the construction of the tank you will be given a 20% discount.

The Kingdom of Bartonstein is willing to switch 4 government factories over to your control in order to faster produce your new prototype.

The Neo-Panzer I-2a has just been completed and is selling at 18 Million USD for alliance members.

Do you have a storefront?

No, it's being sold at our production line (2nd Link in my sig) and the Neo-Panzer II is close to completion.

The Alliance shall buy 10,000 of the Neo-Panzer I-2a at a cost 180 billion standard dollars.

They will be delivered in two NS years, by liege. Thank you.

Greetings from the Kingdom of Auralinia!

In the name of Alaric Tan'it, Emperor of Xeraph, I request that the Kingdom of Auralinia be admitted to the Grand Imperial Alliance as the Xeraphian Empire's representative in said Alliance. The Emperor calls on his friend and ally, The Scandinvan Empire, to kindly give due consideration to our request.

If granted admittance, the Imperial 12th Legion and the Auralinian 88th Legion will be at the GIA's disposal.

respectfully,

Ricala Tinitt'ya, King of Auralinia, Director of the Xeraphian Space League.

Greetings from the Kingdom of Auralinia!

In the name of Alaric Tan'it, Emperor of Xeraph, I request that the Kingdom of Auralinia be admitted to the Grand Imperial Alliance as the Xeraphian Empire's representative in said Alliance. The Emperor calls on his friend and ally, The Scandinvan Empire, to kindly give due consideration to our request.

If granted admittance, the Imperial 12th Legion and the Auralinian 88th Legion will be at the GIA's disposal.

respectfully,

Ricala Tinitt'ya, King of Auralinia, Director of the Xeraphian Space League.We honor thee and open the arms of the GIA to you.

They will be delivered in two NS years, by liege. Thank you.OOC: Have not heard the kind of olde English in a while, thanks.:p

IC: We have now wired the money to and we send our thanks to you as well.

The Scandinvan Empire has now started a program for GIA members that will award up to a hundred billion USD a year for nations that try to preserve family values and maintaining contact between the children and their parents, if the parents are good ones, as means of helping keep the family in contact.

The Kingdom has forever believed in this ideal and will continue to strive to uphold it.

The Kingdom has forever believed in this ideal and will continue to strive to uphold it.Here is your one hundred billion dollar check then.:p

The Democratic Constitutional Monarchy has this ideal written in its very own constitution in some form. It is one of the twenty-five principles the single founder, King Tuan Lekan, had encouraged during his coronation in 0006 AD.

Representative to the Grand Imperial Alliance, Kwaku Kwadwo

The Democratic Constitutional Monarchy has this ideal written in its very own constitution in some form. It is one of the twenty-five principles the single founder, King Tuan Lekan, had encouraged during his coronation in 0006 AD.

Representative to the Grand Imperial Alliance, Kwaku KwadwoHere is your hundred billion then.

We thank the Scandinvans for this and will use it to further improve our promise to uphold family values and the relationships of those involved.

Representative to the Grand Imperial Alliance, Kwaku Kwadwo

OCC: So how long until this gets organized? Of course it would probably help if I assigned troops to the Alliance right now we've only commited our nation and any forces the emperor deems necessary but I need to designate permanent forces sometime.

OOC: A couple more days.

IC: Every member of the GIA is now welcome to come to the party in celebrating the birth of a new crown prince: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=511490

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With all due respect, the Royale Group hereby withdraws British Londinium from this alliance.

Why are you resigning from all your alliances? Somethings up...

With all due respect, the Royale Group hereby withdraws British Londinium from this alliance.You are free to leave, but please grant us the reason why you are?

The reason for our withdrawal is classified at this moment in time.

The reason for our withdrawal is classified at this moment in time.OOC: If I guess it right can I get a cookies.:)

IC: We are saddened and we have decided to allow you to leave.

OOC: Yes, you can have a cookie if you guess right.:p

Have we any new business to discuss?

OOC: Yes, you can have a cookie if you guess right.:pOOC: It is because of the CA or due to your own corporate reasons?

OOC: So close, so close. How about half a cookie? :D

OOC: So close, so close. How about half a cookie? :DOOC: Alright, give me the cookie.:)

*sends cookie*

OOC: Alright then, see ya.

Moorington is still in full support of this alliance, even if its government goes through fits of isolation.