NationStates Jolt Archive

In the past, Doujin has been one of the most powerful forces on the high seas, with large amounts of innovation and a rather eccentric military doctrine. A little over a year ago, I took a short break - leaving Freethinker the option of roleplaying a civil war in Doujin.

Well, that didn't happen per se (at least I couldn't find posts about it) - but a thread regarding the civil war was made, where the Organization of Maritime Powers took control of a fleet of one of the most powerful naval vessels created.

This creates an interesting situation, as a lot has gone by since then. Of course, I am not just going to ignore this - it will go down in history that there was a civil war, and all Doujin-class vessels were seized by the OMP to prevent the use of them by revolutionaries.

I also have roleplayed since this has occured, and have acknowledged use of Doujin class ships (post-civil war seizure). For the sake of simplicity, I will be reposting military fleet numbers. This is not final, but to give a rough guide to current active fleet numbers.

I will make additional posts regarding previous activities being reactiviated. I must be off now.



Main Fleet
DN Doujin - Doujin Class Super Dreadnought
DN Lunar - Atlantis Class Stealth Aircraft Carrier
DN Infusion - Ocean Class Aircraft Carrier
DN Sync - Ocean Class Aircraft Carrier
DN Eden - Thunder Child Class Mk. 2 Refit Battleship
DN Hunt - Thunder Child Class Mk. 2 Refit Battleship
DN Anoit - Thunder Child Class Mk. 2 Refit Battleship
DN Thunder Child - Thunder Child Class Mk. 2 Refit Battleship
DN Mackensen - Mackensen Class Battleship
DN Hortaio - Mackensen Class Battleship
DN Defiance - Mackensen Class Battleship
DN Audacious - Warspite Class SSGN
DN Becaon - Warspite Class SSGN
DN Loyalty - Warspite Class SSGN
DN Trial - Warspite Class SSGN
DN Deep Angel - Warspite Class SSGN
DN Harbringer - Astron Class FAS
DN Pecatonica - Astron Class FAS
DN Peconic - Astron Class FAS
DN Pecos - Astron Class FAS
DN Thor - Astron Class FAS
DN Trieste - Astron Class FAS
DN Tolstoy - Astron Class FAS
DN Essex - Astron Class FAS
DN Magellan - Astron Class FAS
DN Malinche - Astron Class FAS
DN Marauder - Astron Class FAS
DN Shenandoah - Astron Class FAS
DN Goddard - Astron Class FAS
DN Lexington - Astron Class FAS
DN Lalo - Astron Class FAS
DN Hideki - Astron Class FAS
DN Clan Smoke Jaguar - Tigershark Class AOE
DN Zhukov - Tigershark Class AOE
DN Intrepid - Tigershark Class AOE
DN Grissom - Tigershark Class AOE
DN Potemkin - Tigershark Class AOE
DN Destiny - Tigershark Class AOE
DN maymora - Tigershark Class AOE
DN Akira - Tigershark Class AOE
DN Kitara - Tigershark Class AOE
DN Valjean - Tigershark Class AOE
DN Hyde - River Class AOE
DN Hyades - River Class AOE
DN Huse - River Class AOE
DN Hurst - River Class AOE
DN Odin - River Class AOE
DN Kearsarge - Clan Grant Class AOE
DN Soyuz - Clan Grant Class AOE
DN Tsiolkovsky - Clan Grant Class AOE
DN Hornet - Clan Grant Class AOE
DN Sovereign - Clan Grant Class AOE
DN Sitak - Norasia Class AOE
DN Hawking - Norasia Class AOE
DN Liberty - Norasia Class AOE
DN Adelphi - Norasia Class AOE
DN Aries - Norasia Class AOE
DN Aeon - Norasia Class AOE
DN Antares - Norasia Class AOE
DN Nebula - Norasia Class AOE
DN Jupiter - Norasia Class AOE
DN Relentless - Norasia Class AOE
DN Stargazer - Centaur Class DDG
DN Drake - Centaur Class DDG
DN Lakota - Centaur Class DDG
DN Nobel - Centaur Class DDG
DN Huntsville - Centaur Class DDG
DN Hurricane - Centaur Class DDG
DN Hunter Marshall - Centaur Class DDG
DN Hunterdon County - Centaur Class DDG
DN Steamrunner - Centaur Class DDG
DN Hood - Centaur Class DDG
DN Gandes - Centaur-X Class
DN Sage - Centaur-X Class
DN Milan - Centaur-X Class
DN Tripoli - Centaur-X Class
DN Dauntless - Centaur-X Class
DN Devoras - Centaur-X Class
DN Endeavor - Centaur-X Class
DN Opportunity - Centaur-X Class
DN Orinoco - Centaur-X Class
DN Gettysburg - Centaur-X Class
DN Dextrous - Sabre Class
DN Sea Dragon - Sabre Class
DN Avenger - Sabre Class
DN Sanctuary - Sabre Class
DN Talladega - Sabre Class
DN Spirit - Sabre Class
DN Challenger - Sabre Class
DN Ekina - Sabre Class
DN Equinox - Sabre Class
DN Solsctice - Sabre Class
DN Exeter - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Jenolen - Africa Class Mine Sweer/Layer
DN Odyssey - Africa Class Mine Sweer/Layer
DN Galor - Africa Class Mine Sweer/Layer
DN Valiant - Africa Class Mine Sweer/Layer
DN Hibernia - Saviour Class Medical Ship
DN Adroit - Saviour Class Medical Ship
DN Galant - Saviour Class Medical Ship
DN Dynamic - Saviour Class Medical Ship
DN Venture - Saviour Class Medical Ship





Assault Fleet 1 - Active, Pauldustllah Outpost
DN Behemoth - Leviathon Class Battleship
DN Crossroads - Thunder Child Class Mk. 2 Refit Battleship
DN Pelias - Thunder Child Class Mk. 2 Refit Battleship
DN Pelican - Mackensen Class Battleship
DN Quapaw - Mackensen Class Battleship
DN Queenfish - Mackensen Class Battleship
DN Window - Atlantis Class Aircraft Carrier
DN Starch - Ocean Class Aircraft Carrier
DN Danno - Ocean Class Aircraft Carrier
DN Fearless - Warspite Class SSGN
DN Archangel - Warspite Class SSGN
DN Erewon - Warspite Class SSGN
DN Excalibur - Warspite Class SSGN
DN Honshu - Warspite Class SSGN
DN Prokofiev - Astron Class FAS
DN Reaper - Astron Class FAS
DN Majestic - Astron Class FAS
DN PRoxima - Astron Class FAS
DN Ghandi - Astron Class FAS
DN Lantree - Astron Class FAS
DN ANgelus - Astron Class FAS
DN Viper - Astron Class FAS
DN Fireblade - Astron Class FAS
DN Tallulah - Astron Class FAS
DN Taluga - Astron Class FAS
DN Tang - Astron Class FAS
DN Umpqua - Astron Class FAS
DN Underwood - Astron Class FAS
DN Union - Astron Class FAS
DN Midgard - Tigershark Class AOE
DN Excelsior - Tigershark Class AOE
DN Farragut - Tigershark Class AOE
DN Tempest - Tigershark Class AOE
DN austal - Tigershark Class AOE
DN Seminole - Tigershark Class AOE
DN Shadow - Tigershark Class AOE
DN Maddox - Tigershark Class AOE
DN Galileo - Tigershark Class AOE
DN Galaxy - Tigershark Class AOE
DN Fesarius - River Class AOE
DN Thatcher - River Class AOE
DN KEllar - River Class AOE
DN EFfective - River Class AOE
DN Manitowoc - River Class AOE
DN Escape - Clan Grant AOE
DN INsurrection - Clan Grant AOE
DN Miranda - Clan Grant AOE
DN Binac - Clan Grant AOE
DN Nassau - Clan Grant AOE
DN Exploit - Norasia Class AOE
DN Napa - Norasia Class AOE
DN Custom - Norasia Class AOE
DN Invasus - Norasia Class AOE
DN Nitze - Norasia Class AOE
DN Finback - Norasia Class AOE
DN Capable - Norasia Class AOE
DN Fortify - Norasia Class AOE
DN Camden - Norasia Class AOE
DN Firecrest - Norasia Class AOE
DN Pegasus - Centaur Class DDG
DN Peleliu - Centaur Class DDG
DN Kilo - Centaur Class DDG
DN Infniti - Centaur Class DDG
DN Myrkwood - Centaur Class DDG
DN Skona - Centaur Class DDG
DN Ravine - Centaur Class DDG
DN Svealand - Centaur Class DDG
DN Jordheim - Centaur Class DDG
DN Vasudheim - Centaur Class DDG
DN Galplen - Meteora Class
DN Atla - Meteora Class
DN Mularn - Meteora Class
DN Muspelheim - Meteora Class
DN Haggerfel - Meteora Class
DN Gotar - Meteora Class
DN Raumarik - Meteora Class
DN Vanern - Meteora Class
DN Lethantis - Meteora Class
DN Adribard - Meteora Class
DN Prydwen - Thatcher Class
DN Humberton - Thatcher Class
DN Llyn Barfog - Thatcher Class
DN Ludlow - Thatcher Class
DN Cornwall - Thatcher Class
DN Lyonesse - Thatcher Class
DN Salisbury - Thatcher Class
DN Campacorentin - Thatcher Class
DN Bri Leith - Thatcher Class
DN Lough Gur - Sabre Class
DN Cullen - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Shannon - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Estuary - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Connia - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Howth - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Silvermine - Saviour Class Medical Ship
DN Lough Derg - Saviour Class Medical Ship
DN Mag Mell - Saviour Class Medical Ship
DN Tir Na Nog - Saviour Class Medical Ship
DN Ardee - Saviour Class Medical Ship


Assault Fleet 2 - Active
DN Connach - Leviathon Class Battleship
DN Moher - Lunar Class Stealth Aircraft Carrier
DN Warden - Infusion Class Aircraft Carrier
DN Nightshade - Infusion Class Aircraft Carrier
DN Skald - Thunder Child Class Mk. 2 Refit Battleship
DN Paladin - Thunder Child Class Mk. 2 Refit Battleship
DN Reaver - Mackensen Class Battleship
DN Hunter - Mackensen Class Battleship
DN Valewalker - Warspite Class SSGN
DN Sylvan - Warspite Class SSGN
DN Inconnu - Warspite Class SSGN
DN Kobold - Warspite Class SSGN
DN Valkyn - Warspite Class SSGN
DN Bonedancer - Astron Class FAS
DN Hunley - Astron Class FAS
DN Humphreys - Astron Class FAS
DN Repulse - Astron Class FAS
DN Karema - Astron Class FAS
DN Galidor - Astron Class FAS
DN Reliant - Astron Class FAS
DN Helix - Astron Class FAS
DN Solar - Astron Class FAS
DN Scimitar - Astron Class FAS
DN Dante - Astron Class FAS
DN Dolphin - Astron Class FAS
DN Whitestone - Astron Class FAS
DN Pendragon - Astron Class FAS
DN Echo - Astron Class FAS
DN Excalibur - Tigershark Class AOE
DN Excellent - Tigershark Class AOE
DN Merlin - Tigershark Class AOE
DN Mordred - Tigershark Class AOE
DN Andred - Tigershark Class AOE
DN Guinevere - Tigershark Class AOE
DN Lancelot - Tigershark Class AOE
DN Morgan Le Flay - Tigershark Class AOE
DN Kay - Tigershark Class AOE
DN Igraine - Tigershark Class AOE
DN Pellinor - River Class AOE
DN Iseult - River Class AOE
DN Gaheris - River Class AOE
DN Nimue - River Class AOE
DN Bedevere - River Class AOE
DN Bors - Clan Grant AOE
DN Tristan - Clan Grant AOE
DN Percival - Clan Grant AOE
DN Oracle - Clan Grant AOE
DN Dragon - Clan Grant AOE
DN Element - Norasia Class AOE
DN Boldiam - Norasia Class AOE
DN Erasleigh - Norasia Class AOE
DN Berkstead - Norasia Class AOE
DN Sursbrooke - Norasia Class AOE
DN Benowyc - Norasia Class AOE
DN Renaris - Norasia Class AOE
DN Hurbury - Norasia Class AOE
DN Hadrian - Norasia Class AOE
DN Bledmeer - Norasia Class AOE
DN Ailinne - Norasia Class AOE
DN Scathaig - Centaur Class DDg
DN Bolg - Centaur Class DDg
DN Nottmoor - Centaur Class DDg
DN Glenlock - Centaur Class DDg
DN Scabbard - Centaur Class DDg
DN Dagda - Centaur Class DDg
DN Valhalla - Centaur Class DDg
DN Nameless - Centaur Class DDg
DN Tempest - Centaur Class DDg
DN Ravenous - Centaur Class DDg
DN Exile - Meteora Class
DN Desolate - Meteora Class
DN Battle Chime - Meteora Class
DN Sealion - Meteora Class
DN Dagger - Meteora Class
DN Matchless - Meteora Class
DN Sceptre - Meteora Class
DN Diamond - Meteora Class
DN Duncan - Meteora Class
DN Trebuchet - Meteora Class
DN Placid - Thatcher Class
DN Barm - Thatcher Class
DN Tireless - Thatcher Class
DN Trident - Thatcher Class
DN Atlantis - Thatcher Class
DN Alacrity - Thatcher Class
DN Credonia - Thatcher Class
DN Avalyn - Thatcher Class
DN Moussaka Chaos - Thatcher Class
DN Shine - Thatcher Class
DN Velvet - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Albatross - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Golden - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Catch - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Cottistock - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Tyne - Saviour Class Medical Ship
DN Guernsey - Saviour Class Medical Ship
DN Valley - Saviour Class Medical Ship
DN Cottesmore - Saviour Class Medical Ship
DN Vanquish - Saviour Class Medical Ship


Assault Fleet 3 - Active
DN Kayamone - Leviathon Class Battleship
DN Brecon - Lunar Class Stealth Aircraft Carrier
DN Albans - Infusion Class Aircraft Carrier
DN Grafton - Infusion Class Aircraft Carrier
DN Leeds Castle - Thunder Child Class Mk. 2 Refit Battleship
DN Glasgow - Thunder Child Class Mk. 2 Refit Battleship
DN Endurance - Mackensen Class Battleship
DN Victor - Mackensen Class Battleship
DN Monmouth - Mackensen Class Battleship
DN Inverness - Warspite Class SSGN
DN Cambeltown -Warspite Class SSGN
DN [i]Portland - Warspite Class SSGN
DN Argyll - Warspite Class SSGN
DN Somerset - Warspite Class SSGN
DN Sutherland - Astron Class FAS
DN Chatham - Astron Class FAS
DN Vangard - Astron Class FAS
DN Charger - Astron Class FAS
DN Ranger - Astron Class FAS
DN Blazer - Astron Class FAS
DN Dasher - Astron Class FAS
DN Exploit - Astron Class FAS
DN Express - Astron Class FAS
DN Puncher - Astron Class FAS
DN Tracker - Astron Class FAS
DN Trumpeter - Astron Class FAS
DN Sabre - Astron Class FAS
DN Smiter - Astron Class FAS
DN Biter - Astron Class FAS
DN Archer - Tigershark Class AOE
DN Gleaner - Tigershark Class AOE
DN Roebuck - Tigershark Class AOE
DN Dumbarton - Tigershark Class AOE
DN Iron Duke - Tigershark Class AOE
DN Monmouth - Tigershark Class AOE
DN Montrose - Tigershark Class AOE
DN Northumberland - Tigershark Class AOE
DN Torbay - Tigershark Class AOE
DN Trenchant - Tigershark Class AOE
DN Trafalgar - River Class AOE
DN Imposis - River Class AOE
DN Olympia - River Class AOE
DN Illustrious - River Class AOE
DN Indefatigable - River Class AOE
DN Foxhound - Clan Grant Class AOE
DN Warrior - Clan Grant Class AOE
DN Ghurkha - Clan Grant Class AOE
DN Gladiator - Clan Grant Class AOE
DN Glorious - Clan Grant Class AOE
DN Cleopatra - Norasia Class AOE
DN Constellation - Norasia Class AOE
DN Conquerer - Norasia Class AOE
DN Cheetah - Norasia Class AOE
DN Cobra - Norasia Class AOE
DN Hunter - Norasia Class AOE
DN Halberd - Norasia Class AOE
DN Hammer - Norasia Class AOE
DN Wave Knight - Norasia Class AOE
DN Wave Rider - Norasia Class AOE
DN Lion - Centaur Class DDG
DN Leopard - Centaur Class DDG
DN Lancer - Centaur Class DDG
DN Lightning - Centaur Class DDG
DN Locust - Centaur Class DDG
DN Ardent - Centaur Class DDG
DN Amazon - Centaur Class DDG
DN Antelope - Centaur Class DDG
DN Adventure - Centaur Class DDG
DN Archeron - Centaur Class DDG
DN Artemis - Meteora Class
DN Argus - Meteora Class
DN Avenger - Meteora Class
DN Aristotle - Meteora Class
DN Achilles - Meteora Class
DN Broadsword - Meteora Class
DN Brilliont - Meteora Class
DN Brazen - Meteora Class
DN Basilisk - Meteora Class
DN Nova Quieto - Meteora Class
DN Midland - Thatcher Class
DN Fargon - Thatcher Class
DN Rilelow - Thatcher Class
DN Balarie - Thatcher Class
DN New Hampton - Thatcher Class
DN Falkor - Thatcher Class
DN Sullun - Thatcher Class
DN Mulathorian - Thatcher Class
DN Palento - Thatcher Class
DN Bogna - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Unicorn - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Pit Isle - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Alderfuss - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Farway - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Fell Isle - Saviour Class Medical Ship
DN Zebra - Saviour Class Medical Ship
DN Zulu - Saviour Class Medical Ship
DN Kraken - Saviour Class Medical Ship
DN Kingfisher - Saviour Class Medical Ship

Assault Fleet 4 - Hrafn Warband Active
DN Omen Sore - Doujin Class Super Dreadnought
DN Polaris - Leviathon Class Battleship
DN Narcosis - Leviathon Class Battleship
DN Vintage - Thunder Child Class Mk. 2 Refit Battleship
DN Nocturne - Thunder Child Class Mk. 2 Refit Battleship
DN *name* - Thunder Child Class Mk.2 Refit Battleship
DN Rel Por - Mackensen Class Battleship
DN Nova - Mackensen Class Battleship
DN Rhiadan - Mackensen Class Battleship
DN Wings of Valour - Lunar Class Stealth Aircraft Carrier
DN Staedwall - Infusion Class Aircraft Carrier
DN Reverence - Infusion Class Aircraft Carrier
DN McLean - Warspite Class SSGN
DN Fabius - Warspite Class SSGN
DN Fahrion - Warspite Class SSGN
DN Fairfax County - Warspite Class SSGN
DN Forrest Royale - Warspite Class SSGN
DN Forrest Sherman - Astron Class FAS
DN Forrestal - Astron Class FAS
DN Forster - Astron Class FAS
DN Flickertail State - Astron Class FAS
DN Francis Hammond - Astron Class FAS
DN Francis M. Robinson - Astron Class FAS
DN Francis Marion - Astron Class FAS
DN Francis Scott Key - Astron Class FAS
DN Francovich - Astron Class FAS
DN Frank Cable - Astron Class FAS
DN Frank E. Evans - Astron Class FAS
DN Frankford - Astron Class FAS
DN Franklin D. Roosevelt - Astron Class FAS
DN Franks - Astron Class FAS
DN Fred T. Berry - Astron Class FAS
DN Starlust - Tigershark Class AOE
DN Desire Lanes - Tigershark Class AOE
DN Hypocrite - Tigershark Class AOE
DN Kiss Chase - Tigershark Class AOE
DN Dead Star - Tigershark Class AOE
DN Blackout - Tigershark Class AOE
DN Lovelife - Tigershark Class AOE
DN Invisible Man - Tigershark Class AOE
DN Never-Never - Tigershark Class AOE
DN Velvet Sky - Tigershark Class AOE
DN Crimson Rose - River Class AOE
DN Black Dragon - River Class AOE
DN Dark Archane - River Class AOE
DN Sin Vida - River Class AOE
DN Atrocity - River Class AOE
DN Torcan - Clan Grant AOE
DN Mor Du Kuli - Clan Grant AOE
DN Dark Ascension - Clan Grant AOE
DN Dogma - Clan Grant AOE
DN Dark Covenant - Clan Grant AOE
DN Final Chapter - Norasia Class AOE
DN Dissent - Norasia Class AOE
DN Atrocity - Norasia Class AOE
DN Silent Souls - Norasia Class AOE
DN Dizzy - Norasia Class AOE
DN Birthright - Norasia Class AOE
DN Knights of Terror - Norasia Class AOE
DN Validus - Norasia Class AOE
DN Slayer - Norasia Class AOE
DN Retribution - Norasia Class AOE
DN Judgement - Centaur Class DDG
DN Tarsis Shriner - Centaur Class DDG
DN Pestilance - Centaur Class DDG
DN Celestius Ignes - Centaur Class DDG
DN Darkshade - Centaur Class DDG
DN Acrolytic - Centaur Class DDG
DN Haste - Centaur Class DDG
DN Reneg - Centaur Class DDG
DN Solemnity - Centaur Class DDG
DN Fidelity - Centaur Class DDG
DN Ice Dragon - Meteora Class
DN Forsaken - Meteora Class
DN Savage Truth - Meteora Class
DN Enigma - Meteora Class
DN Forgotten - Meteora Class
DN Resolution - Meteora Class
DN Hel Maor - Meteora Class
DN Hrafnin Flygur - Meteora Class
DN Vae Victis - Meteora Class
DN Du Mintai - Meteora Class
DN Valiant Glory - Thatcher Class
DN Vengeance of Valhalla - Thatcher Class
DN Draco Ignus - Thatcher Class
DN Tre Uruz - Thatcher Class
DN Maelstrom - Thatcher Class
DN Conclave - Thatcher Class
DN Wolfpack - Thatcher Class
DN Paragon - Thatcher Class
DN Crucible - Thatcher Class
DN Fatalis - Thatcher Class
DN Draumavetr - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Heorot - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Ormin Lange - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Kjede - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Draupnir - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Eir - Saviour Class Medical Ship
DN Enmity - Saviour Class Medical Ship
DN Vidar - Saviour Class Medical Ship
DN Wynterfel - Saviour Class Medical Ship
DN Indica - Saviour Class Medical Ship


30 Battlefleets, each consisting of:
1 Lunar Class Aircraft Carrier
1 Thunder Child Class Mk. 2 Refit Battleship
5 Thatcher Class Destroyers
3 Centaur Class Destroyers
2 Meteora Class Destroyers
5 Astron Class Fast Attack Submarines
5 Clan Grant Class Auxilaries
2 Oakleaf Class Assault Ships
1 Saviour Class Medical Ship


Defense Fleet 1 - Active
DN Komodo - Lunar Class Stealth Aircraft Carrier
DN Apache - Mackensen Class Battleship
DN Comanche - Mackensen Class Battleship
DN Inuit - Mackensen Class Battleship
DN Cheyenne - Astron Class FAS
DN Cherokee - Astron Class FAS
DN Mojave - Astron Class FAS
DN Kiowa - Astron Class FAS
DN Sioux - Astron Class FAS
DN Navajo - Astron Class FAS
DN Pawnee - Astron Class FAS
DN Trublent - Astron Class FAS
DN Unbound - Astron Class FAS
DN Sanctity - Astron Class FAS
DN Dust - Astron Class FAS
DN Lake of Fire - Astron Class FAS
DN Imagination - Astron Class FAS
DN Devilry - Astron Class FAS
DN Memphis - Astron Class FAS
DN Surface Tension - Warspite SSBN
DN Ruby - Warspite SSBN
DN Lateralus - Warspite SSBN
DN Xavier - Tigershark Class AOE
DN Dulverton - Tigershark Class AOE
DN Falcon - Tigershark Class AOE
DN Falgout - Tigershark Class AOE
DN Fanning - Tigershark Class AOE
DN Fanshaw Bay - Tigershark Class AOE
DN Farquhar - Tigershark Class AOE
DN Finback - Tigershark Class AOE
DN Firebolt - Tigershark Class AOE
DN Firedrake - Tigershark Class AOE
DN Fiske - River Class AOE
DN Flagstaff - River Class AOE
DN Flasher - River Class AOE
DN Forrest Royal - River Class AOE
DN Flying Fish - River Class AOE
DN Flrorkian - Clan Grant Class AOE
DN Flatley - Clan Grant Class AOE
DN Valdez - Clan Grant Class AOE
DN Valcour - Clan Grant Class AOE
DN Varian - Clan Grant Class AOE
DN Vandegrift - Norasia Class AOE
DN Velocity - Norasia Class AOE
DN Vella Gulf - Norasia Class AOE
DN Vermillion - Norasia Class AOE
DN Vesole - Norasia Class AOE
DN Vesuvius - Norasia Class AOE
DN Victoria - Norasia Class AOE
DN Vincennes - Norasia Class AOE
DN Vindicator - Norasia Class AOE
DN Vreeland - Norasia Class AOE
DN Vogel - Centaur Class DDG
DN Decatur - Centaur Class DDG
DN Delong - Centaur Class DDG
DN Denebola - Centaur Class DDG
DN Denver - Centaur Class DDG
DN Devastator - Centaur Class DDG
DN Diachenko - Centaur Class DDG
DN Deyo - Centaur Class DDG
DN Diamond - Centaur Class DDG
DN Dickerson - Centaur Class DDG
DN Direct - Meteora Class
DN Dutton - Meteora Class
DN Duval County - Meteora Class
DN Dyess - Meteora Class
DN Durant - Meteora Class
DN Geiger - Meteora Class
DN Gearing - Meteora Class
DN Gato - Meteora Class
DN Gillespie - Meteora Class
DN Gosselin - Meteora Class
DN Goodrich - Thatcher Class
DN Grayling - Thatcher Class
DN Gypsy - Thatcher Class
DN Gudgeon - Thatcher Class
DN Guardfish - Thatcher Class
DN Mercury - Thatcher Class
DN Mender - Thatcher Class
DN Meadowlark - Thatcher Class
DN Meade - Thatcher Class
DN Midas - Thatcher Class
DN Midway - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Mispillion - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Mitscher - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Moale - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Kellar - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Kershaw - Saviour Class Medical Ship
DN Abbot - Saviour Class Medical Ship
DN Ainsworth - Saviour Class Medical Ship
DN Kiska - Saviour Class Medical Ship
DN Antelope - Saviour Class Medical Ship

Defense Fleet 2 - Standby
DN Amick - Lunar Class Stealth Aircraft Carrier
DN Aventinus - Mackensen Class Battleship
DN Knox - Mackensen Class Battleship
DN Undaunted - Mackensen Class Battleship
DN Itara - Astron Class FAS
DN Iuka - Astron Class FAS
DN Iwana - Astron Class FAS
DN Oakridge - Astron Class FAS
DN Ocala - Astron Class FAS
DN Ocum - Astron Class FAS
DN Oconostota - Astron Class FAS
DN Olathe - Astron Class FAS
DN Opelika - Astron Class FAS
DN Orono - Astron Class FAS
DN Osceola - Astron Class FAS
DN Oshkosh - Astron Class FAS
DN Oswegatchie - Astron Class FAS
DN Otokomi - Astron Class FAS
DN Ottumwa - Astron Class FAS
DN Owachomo - Warspite Class SSBN
DN Owatonna - Warspite Class SSBN
DN Owzette - Warspite Class SSBN
DN Campti - Tigershark Class AOE
DN Chekilli - Tigershark Class AOE
DN Casinghead - Tigershark Class AOE
DN Cusseta - Tigershark Class AOE
DN Croaker - Tigershark Class AOE
DN Crilley - Tigershark Class AOE
DN Crandall - Tigershark Class AOE
DN Connewango - Tigershark Class AOE
DN Cod - Tigershark Class AOE
DN Paducah - Tigershark Class AOE
DN Palatka - River Class AOE
DN Pampanito - River Class AOE
DN Panameta - River Class AOE
DN Petalesharo - River Class AOE
DN Phoebus - River Class AOE
DN Piqua - Clan Grant Class AOE
DN Porobago - Clan Grant Class AOE
DN Prevail - Clan Grant Class AOE
DN Numa - Clan Grant Class AOE
DN Nueces - Clan Grant Class AOE
DN Nokomis - Norasia Class AOE
DN Niantic - Norasia Class AOE
DN Nashua - Norasia Class AOE
DN Natahki - Norasia Class AOE
DN Natick - Norasia Class AOE
DN Navagtuck - Norasia Class AOE
DN Naubuc - Norasia Class AOE
DN Lelaka - Norasia Class AOE
DN Ling - Norasia Class AOE
DN Lionfish - Norasia Class AOE
DN Little Compton - Centaur Class DDG
DN Lynn Haven - Centaur Class DDG
DN Gauger - Centaur Class DDG
DN Ganadoga - Centaur Class DDG
DN Granville - Centaur Class DDG
DN Wahaka - Centaur Class DDG
DN Waneta - Centaur Class DDG
DN Wovoka - Centaur Class DDG
DN Winamac - Centaur Class DDG
DN West Milton - Centaur Class DDG
DN Weehawken - Meteora Class
DN Watseka - Meteora Class
DN Wathena - Meteora Class
DN Wapakoneta - Meteora Class
DN Wallacut - Meteora Class
DN Hackensack - Meteora Class
DN Hastwiana - Meteora Class
DN Hiamonee - Meteora Class
DN Hiawatha - Meteora Class
DN Hisada - Meteora Class
DN Hoga - Thatcher Class
DN Houma - Thatcher Class
DN Hyannis - Thatcher Class
DN Marlin - Thatcher Class
DN Manistee - Thatcher Class
DN Matunak - Thatcher Class
DN Mecosta - Thatcher Class
DN Manistee - Thatcher Class
DN Machinist - Thatcher Class
DN Migadan - Thatcher Class
DN Kakarna - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Kalispell - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Keokuk - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Ketchikan - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Kewaunee - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Keyport - Saviour Class Medical Ship
DN Kittanning - Saviour Class Medical Ship
DN Kittaton - Saviour Class Medical Ship
DN Kodiak - Saviour Class Medical Ship
DN Konoka - Saviour Class Medical Ship

Escort Fleet - Standby
DN Quileute - Ingenuity Class Light Carrier
DN Range Recoverer - Ingenuity Class Light Carrier
DN Rasher - Ingenuity Class Light Carrier
DN Red Cloud - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Redwing - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Requin - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Resolute - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Resourceful - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Richland - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Roncador - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Runner - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Reliance - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Saluda - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Sakarissa - Unicorn Class Escort Corvette
DN Saco - Unicorn Class Escort Corvette
DN Shabonee - Unicorn Class Escort Corvette
DN Smohalla - Unicorn Class Escort Corvette
DN Sikis - Unicorn Class Escort Corvette
DN Suitland - Visby Class Corvette
DN Steadfast - Visby Class Corvette
DN Sustain - Visby Class Corvette
DN Shamokin - Visby Class Corvette
DN Senasqua - Visby Class Corvette
DN Secota - Orion Class Corvette
DN Sea Shadow - Orion Class Corvette
DN Sea Horse - Orion Class Corvette
DN Sea Wolf - Orion Class Corvette
DN Sea Knight - Orion Class Corvette
DN Sea King - Orion Class Corvette
DN Sea Lord - Orion Class Corvette
DN Orion - Orion Class Corvette
DN Turbulent - Orion Class Corvette
DN Nautilus - Orion Class Corvette
DN Neptune - Orion Class Corvette
DN Trident - Orion Class Corvette
DN Nero - Orion Class Corvette
DN Narwhal - Orion Class Corvette
DN Matchless - Orion Class Corvette
DN Yanaba - Meteora Class
DN Yanegue - Meteora Class
DN Yatanocas - Meteora Class
DN Yonaguska - Meteora Class
DN Yuma - Meteora Class

Information on Individual Ships:

Meteora Class <http://www.geocities.com/doujincorp/meteora.html>
Thatcher Class <http://www.geocities.com/doujincorp/thatcher.html>
Mackensen Class <http://www.geocities.com/doujincorp/mackensen.html>
Orion Class <http://www.geocities.com/doujincorp/orion.html>
Thunder Child Class <http://www.geocities.com/doujincorp/doujin.html>
Doujin Class <http://www.geocities.com/doujincorp/doujinbb.html>
Visby Class <http://www.geocities.com/doujincorp/visby.html>
Africa Class <http://www.geocities.com/doujincorp/Africa.html>
Ingenuity Class <http://www.geocities.com/doujincorp/ingenuity.html>
Norasia Class <http://www.geocities.com/doujincorp/norasia.html>
Astron Class <http://www.geocities.com/doujincorp/astron.html>
Warspite Class <http://www.geocities.com/doujincorp/warspite.html>
Lunar Class <http://www.geocities.com/doujincorp/lunar.html>
Infusion Class <http://www.geocities.com/doujincorp/infusion.html>
Leviathon Class <http://www.geocities.com/doujincorp/leviathon.html>

All ships used and not provided a link with - you can access them through the storefront thread.
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=130623

Information on each ship:

CLAN GRANT Class Fast Fleet Replenishers
Displacement: 10,000 tons
Propulsion: 2 x N5500 Gas Turbines, 58,000 shp, 2 shafts, 33 kts
Crew: 67
Radar: SS42 Short Range Surface Search/Tracking, G04 Navigation
Fire Control: Overlord N/Standard System, T03 Close Engagement Control
EW: 2 Type 3 Chaff/Flare Dispensers, ?Hawkeye? ECM/ESM suite
Sonar: SN12 Bow-mounted
Aviation: Helipad, 1 x small helicopter
Armament: 1 x 8-Cell ?Seasnake? SRSAM Launcher (32 Missiles ), 2 x 20mm Legions CIWS, 2 x 20mm Cannons, 4 x 7.62mm GPMGs
Armour: 70 mm Steel
Builders: Kettering Shipbuilders Inc
Design: Fast Replenishers with heavy close range defences designed for moderate-threat fleet operations.


RIVER Class Fleet Replenishers
Displacement: 14,000 tons
Propulsion: 2 x N5000 Gas Turbines, 60,000 shp, 2 shafts, 27 kts
Crew: 75
Radar: SS40 Short Range Surface Search/Tracking, G04 Navigation
Fire Control: Overlord N/Standard System, T02 Close Engagement Control
EW: 2 Type 2 Chaff/Flare Dispensers, ?Hawkeye? ECM/ESM suite
Sonar: SN10 Bow-mounted
Aviation: Helipad with hangar, 2 x small helicopters
Armament: 2 x 20mm Legions CIWS, 4 x 20mm Cannons, 4 x 7.62mm GPMGs
Armour: 75 mm Steel
Builders: Kettering Shipbuilders Inc
Design: Large replenishers designed to support long distance patrols and operations

TIGERSHARK Class Fast Fleet Oilers
Displacement: 12,000 tons
Propulsion: 4 x N5500 Gas Turbines, 120,000 shp, 2 shafts, 35 kts
Crew: 50
Radar: SS42 Short Range Surface Search/Tracking, G04 Navigation
Fire Control: Overlord N/Standard System, T03 Close Engagement Control
EW: 2 Type 3 Chaff/Flare Dispensers, ?Hawkeye? ECM/ESM suite
Sonar: SN12 Bow-mounted
Aviation: Helipad with hangar, 1 x small helicopter
Armament: 2 x 20mm Legion CIWS, 2 x 20mm Cannons
Armour: 70 mm Steel
Builders: Navarre Naval Shipyards
Design: Large, fast fleet oilers planned for rapid reaction forces.

UNICORN Class Escort Corvettes
Displacement: 2,400 tons
Propulsion: 2 x N5500 Gas Turbines, 52,000 shp, 1 shaft, 2 jets, 40 kts
Crew: 92
Radar: AS18 Close-Range Air Search/Tracking, SS42 Short Range Surface Search/Tracking, G04 Navigation
Fire Control: Overlord N/Standard System, T03 Close Engagement Control
EW: 1 Type 3 Chaff/Flare Dispenser, ?Hawkeye? ECM/ESM suite
Sonar: SN12 Bow-mounted
Aviation: Large helipad, 1 small helicopter
Armament: 1 x 3?/40 AGT, 2 x 20mm Legion CIWS, 1 x 30mm Cannon, 4 x 7.62mm GPMGs, 2 x ML Mk22 Torpedo Tubes (6 Torpedoes)
Armour: 75 mm Steel
Builders: Kettering Shipbuilders Inc
Design: Small trimirans originally built as test-beds for the tri-hull concept. Have a limited mine-laying capability.

CENTAUR Class Guided Missile Destroyer
Displacement: 13,000 tons
Propulsion: 4 x N5500 Gas Turbines, 110,000 shp, 2 shafts / 2 jets, 42 kts
Crew: 210
Radar: AS18 Close-Range Air Search/Tracking, SS34 Long Range Surface Search/Tracking, SS42 Short Range Surface Search/Tracking, G04 Navigation
Fire Control: Overlord N/Extended System, T03 Close Engagement Control, NG04A Gunfire Control
EW: 3 Type 3 Chaff/Flare Dispensers, ?Cosmic? ECM/ESM suite
Sonar: SN12 Bow-mounted, SN 20 Towed-array
Aviation: Large helipad and hangar, 2 medium helicopters
Armament: 1 x 5?/50S Gun, 2 x 3?/40 AGTs, 2 x 42-Cell VLS (168 SAM/SSM Missiles), 2 x Quadruple ?Scimitar? LRSSM Launchers (40 Missiles), 1 x 48-Cell ?Seasnake? SRSAM VLS (96 Missiles), 4 x 20mm Legion CIWS, 2 x 30mm Cannons, 4 x 7.62mm GPMGs, 2 x ML Mk22 Torpedo Tubes (16 Torpedoes)
Armour: 125 mm Titanium Composite
Builders: Navarre Navy Shipyards / Kettering Shipbuilders Inc
Design: Trimiran destroyers, very well armed with high performance. Built as dedicated escorts for the Leviathan and the future carrier projects.

Can't find the stats on the Saviour, going to have to look for it But, there ya have it.

(Some more info ..)

Doujin Gross Domestic Product

Population: 1,025,000,000
Civil Rights: Excellent
Economy: Frightening
GDP per Capita: $35,000
GDP: $35,875,000,000,000
National Budget: $20,341,125,000,000

Percentage of GDP Spent on Defense: 8.51%
Percentage of Budget Spent on Defense: 15%
Military Budget: $3,051,168,750,000

2% Population in Military(20,500,000), 15,000,000 Navy, 4 million Army, 1,500,000 Air Force.
Each person paid minimum 40,000 year salary.. totalling 717,500,000,000 of my Budget.
Each Assault fleet costs 6,122,500,000 in annual upkeep costs, and the Main Fleet costs 8,212,500,000 in Upkeep costs. This is including aircraft maintenance and fuel.. (Britain claims 1-2 million for aircraft per year.. I drew in the middle and claim it as 1.5 million in aircraft maintenance per aircraft per year).




Upkeep Costs (Not including aircraft/men payment)
Doujin - 2 billion
Leviathon - 800,000,000
Thunder Child - 400,000,000
Infusion, Lunar - 200,000,000
Ingenuity - 100,000,000
Mackensen - 100,000,000
FAS - 75,000,000
SSGN/SSBN - 100,000,000
Centaur Class - 80,000,000
Saviour, Africa, Orion, Visby, Unicorn - 5,000,000
Clan Grant, Norasia, Tigershark, River - 10,000,000
Meteora, Thatcher - 40,000,000[/QUOTE]

Welcome back Doujin.

Leocardia will pay for half of the Doujin military expenses, for it's welcoming arrival. The cause? Improved relations.

[OOC: Welcome back, Doujin. I take it that the FDI Group will be more active thanks to your return?]

[OOC: Welcome back, Doujin. I take it that the FDI Group will be more active thanks to your return?]

That is something that I will have to discuss with Jim. When I left, Doujinshi Corporation owned the FDI Group - and I will resume ship designs and projects that I left off (albeit probably without the 1337 drawing skills of Jim, due to the fact that [as far as I can tell] he isn't as active as he once was on II).

When I left I had several projects going:

Project Eir - A Switchblade-type attack/bomber craft, with SVTOL and VTOL versions.

Project Reaver - Another SD

Project Majestic - New anti-shipping missile technology

Project Warden - Armor project (Where the armor of the Doujin Mk. 3 was developed).

Project Wraith - A training project/regimen for the ground forces of the Doujin military (Akin to AMF's Sentinels and Pantera's Reavers)

Project Atlantis - A network that tracks all aerial (and incidently possibly ground targets as well if directed to do so) of literally hundreds of satellites, ground waypoints, base stations throughout the world. A multi-trillion dollar project funded by old Doujin reserves and other nations interested in using the network.

Unfortunately, I am unable to currently locate a picture of Project Atlantis (If anyone from the OMP has a copy or something, I would very much appreciate it if you would share said copy with me).

Haha, its Doujin. I'm Hogsweat, do you remember me?

That is something that I will have to discuss with Jim. When I left, Doujinshi Corporation owned the FDI Group - and I will resume ship designs and projects that I left off (albeit probably without the 1337 drawing skills of Jim, due to the fact that [as far as I can tell] he isn't as active as he once was on II).

Jim's sort of around, he's on IRC a fair bit (mainly #draftroom and #nationstates) and he's working on Nautilus, or was the last thing I heard.

Jim's sort of around, he's on IRC a fair bit (mainly #draftroom and #nationstates) and he's working on Nautilus, or was the last thing I heard.

That doesn't equate to being active in II, though, which was what I said he wasn't :P

That is something that I will have to discuss with Jim. When I left, Doujinshi Corporation owned the FDI Group - and I will resume ship designs and projects that I left off (albeit probably without the 1337 drawing skills of Jim, due to the fact that [as far as I can tell] he isn't as active as he once was on II).

OOC: Jim is still active, as am I, he's just doing a few RPs (one with me) over in NS. He still does naval designs from time to time (and is presently aiding me with designs and reformation and improvement to my own Navy to be able to easily co-ordinate with his.)

Welcome to a brave new world, by the way. Alot has changed.

Haha, its Doujin. I'm Hogsweat, do you remember me?

... Don't make me shoot you.

Huhuhu.

Huhuhu.


Take that as a "Yes, I remember you" :P

Excellent. Maritime construction has ... changed so, so, much since you left.

That doesn't equate to being active in II, though, which was what I said he wasn't :P

Argh, whatever. Half of II is planned over IRC anyway, our ideas for world domination and such, mainly spewed by The Silver Sky, Velkya, Willink, Space Union, sometimes Hogsweat and Doomingsland as well.

I don't think we've met before, so I'm Czardas... front-runner in the new guard... yes, there's a new guard (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=506863), made up of a lot of members of the old guard and a lot of newbies. Welcome back, and don't mind Matt, he's harmless. Usually.

Argh, whatever. Half of II is planned over IRC anyway, our ideas for world domination and such, mainly spewed by The Silver Sky, Velkya, Willink, Space Union, sometimes Hogsweat and Doomingsland as well.

I don't think we've met before, so I'm Czardas... front-runner in the new guard... yes, there's a new guard (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=506863), made up of a lot of members of the old guard and a lot of newbies. Welcome back, and don't mind Matt, he's harmless. Usually.

I'll mind Matt if I want. The old MSN logs are sickening.

That was in 2004... people change. How about a fresh start, Doujin?

Folks have changed and matured in two years but still.

Heres to hopeing a new RP record for folks. New relations more ship designs etc.

Welcome back, I doubt you remember me, but I've been around a wile longer than my date shows... and although Czardas' new guard is still around, some of the good ole boys still live on.

Welcome back, I doubt you remember me, but I've been around a wile longer than my date shows... and although Czardas' new guard is still around, some of the good ole boys still live on.

I don't forget people easily.

OOC: A welcome back...we had very limited involvement, just wanted to say that I wanna see a Questers vs Doujin naval battle!! The two titans clash...although my money would be on Questers and the Hood I'm afraid!

*wonders to self if that's a good thing or a bad one...* anyways, hope you like the new II...

Whats this about a new guard? Bah! Must react!

OOC: A welcome back...we had very limited involvement, just wanted to say that I wanna see a Questers vs Doujin naval battle!! The two titans clash...although my money would be on Questers and the Hood I'm afraid!

OOC: If my Gholgoth brother wants, he can look at my Hood. *Impish Look*

Hey Doujin, and welcome back. You have no idea who I am because I post so infrequently, but I believe we joined around the same time (in the summer 2003 wave of posters), so I did witness some of the events in which you were involved. Others I missed entirely by neglecting this website for long stretches at a time. And it's almost two in the morning here so I'm not making as much sense as I should be.

But anyway, welcome back. :)

OOC: A welcome back...we had very limited involvement, just wanted to say that I wanna see a Questers vs Doujin naval battle!! The two titans clash...although my money would be on Questers and the Hood I'm afraid!

I have seen the Hood.. lol.. and I'm not gonna say anything about it here.

Naval design has moved far on since you left, the Doujin is a museum peice rather than a viable weapons system these days. Suggest you update your attitude or people wont play with you.

Argh, whatever. Half of II is planned over IRC anyway, our ideas for world domination and such, mainly spewed by The Silver Sky, Velkya, Willink, Space Union, sometimes Hogsweat and Doomingsland as well.

I don't think we've met before, so I'm Czardas... front-runner in the new guard... yes, there's a new guard (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=506863), made up of a lot of members of the old guard and a lot of newbies. Welcome back, and don't mind Matt, he's harmless. Usually.

Then what the bugger am I, a mascot?

...

Probably, now that I think about it.

In any case. I've heard much of your battleshipping, Doujin. Much indeed.

[walks off into the distance laughing maniacally]

Naval design has moved far on since you left, the Doujin is a museum peice rather than a viable weapons system these days. Suggest you update your attitude or people wont play with you.
I believe that may be a matter of perspective and doctrine still, Mid.

I believe that may be a matter of perspective and doctrine still, Mid.

The tech is two RL years old (Who knows how old in NS terms) and Doujin's pride and joy is mothballed in a naval museum.

Oh yes, I'm Skinny87, part of the 'New Guard'...

The tech is two RL years old (Who knows how old in NS terms) and Doujin's pride and joy is mothballed in a naval museum.

Oh yes, I'm Skinny87, part of the 'New Guard'...

Ah, one of the "New Guard" that ruined Haven after Edolia left. Sad.

Naval design has moved far on since you left, the Doujin is a museum peice rather than a viable weapons system these days. Suggest you update your attitude or people wont play with you.

Bah! I still have the things and use them. I am not to be placed in a museum! Not!

EDIT- Oh, and welcome back. But then I know you're back, as you've been in the region again. Hurrah and such.

Ah, one of the "New Guard" that ruined Haven after Edolia left. Sad.
While I'm neutral on the issue of Haven, Doujin does have a point nevertheless.

The "New Guard" of Haven (in particular the Sovereign League) is nothing compared to the likes of the old. It is a corrupt morass in my IC view that spits on its own supposed values and ideals in a quest for absolute power, and its member nations are either foolish to think that staying with the SL will be profitable long term for their realpolitik or naive to think that their leadership is still a respectable democratic nation and a paragon of democracy.

Add to that, while I do not have a Doujin, I do have Superdreadnaughts, and I'm not going to chuck my boys into the antique store.

Perhaps the SL may bring up the rise of the state clique.....upward with the http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Big_Three!

I have to say - the suggestion that the Doujin is now a museum piece is absurd, to say the least.

While one on one it is conceivable that the Doujin might fall prey to the likes of a larger vessel, such as the Hood class, for the price of one of those Hood vessels I could field *3* or more Doujins.

The Doujin is merely the standard, and no longer the bleeding edge. Fine, I understand that - it's been approximately two years since her inception. But what she is not, my friends, is a "museum piece."

While I'm neutral on the issue of Haven, Doujin does have a point nevertheless.

The "New Guard" of Haven (in particular the Sovereign League) is nothing compared to the likes of the old. It is a corrupt morass in my IC view that spits on its own supposed values and ideals in a quest for absolute power, and its member nations are either foolish to think that staying with the SL will be profitable long term for their realpolitik or naive to think that their leadership is still a respectable democratic nation and a paragon of democracy.



Yes, because evidently with an influx of new people reviving the region is such a horrific travesty, as opposed to the region under SS which was beyond dead, it was a zombie, at least now we have a vaguely revived region that does things and roleplays with eachother and does so with eachother admirably, Haven has evolved and moved on with fresh blood, its certainly not ruined.

The other thing is that the Doujin is far too tall, its is now what I would call underarmed and underpowered and isn't all that jazz as a combat vessel any more, its not a standard its a smidge inferior. Regardless of wether you field 3 or not, if three Doujins and a Hood went gun-to-gun (not likely, but hey) the Hood would simply outrange each one in turn because it is better armed and lower down in its design.

The Sovereign League is analogous to "the New Guard" (whatever that is), indeed? Well this is news to me, and I founded the thing. Southeastasia you talk as though you have some sort of hard earned worldly wisdom built up by years playing nationstates, when in fact you were not even registered when the "Old Guard" that you seem to hero worship were active. You are not and have never been a member of Haven, yet you have to problem with comparing its present state to its condition under a regime you were not there to see.

Haven today is a husk of its former greatness, but this is despite the "Revolutionaries" or the "New Guard" (or whatever you want to call it) not because of it (us?). Haven is dying because its members are all but gone and the conflicts that used to rage through it are finished. Taking the mantle of leadership from some dead and inactive nations, most of whom were not even in Haven any longer, is not some heinous crime that has killed the region, but the minimum possible action that could be taken to mitigate the damage already done.

As for the Sovereign League... well, I have never even heard of this "New Guard" that I am supposedly the leader of and I hardly understand why you link it specifically with Haven, but if we are indeed a "New Guard" then so be it. You justify your idolatry of the "Old Guard" by claiming the Sovereign League to be realpolitikers who compromise our ideals for the sake of expediency, failing to realise that the "Old Guard" (almost certainly because you know little to nothing about this "Old Guard") were almost uniformly Imperialist Communists (Russian Forces, Red Bloc Alliance, Etc.) or Imperialist Fascists (Automagfreek, Pantera, Etc.). If we are a "corrupt morass" who betray democracy, then what are they? How is it better to be a pragmatic tyrant than to be a pragmatic libertarian? How, indeed, is it better to be so rigid with one's ideology as to make it completely unresponsive to the outside world?

As for:
its member nations are... naive to think that their leadership is still a respectable democratic nation
I am not entirely sure what I have done to provoke such vociferous slander.

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Anyway, my apologies to Doujin for clogging up his thread with this. Welcome back to Nationstates, and I am sure that you will find everything refreshingly different (although perhaps not hugely so). The Doujin has certainly been outclassed since your departure, both by larger ships and by better designed ships of a similar size, but this is to be expected from a world in a constant naval arms race, and it is definitely still a viable fighting platform today.

Ah, one of the "New Guard" that ruined Haven after Edolia left. Sad.

And nice to meet you as well, Doujin. Is slander a large part of your character?

I fail to see how anyone could call a ship a kilometre in length armed with guns at least twice the size of any naval rifles ever built in real life, capable of lauching approximately 2560 (or was it 4320?) strategic-length missiles, a non-viable battle platform, personally.

@Doujin - I suppose you're entitled to your opinion. Many of the old players who made Haven what it was a year ago are gone now. Others have changed drastically over the years. I don't view this as a death or a ruination -- only a change. (I wasn't in the Haven region when it was active a year and some ago, but I did witness some of the Haven-based RPs that went on on the regular NS forums.)

@Praetonia - I suppose I'm to blame for the term "new guard"... it was meant half-jokingly, actually, since there are so many members of the old guard still in it. (I'm counting people like Doom and Macabees, who are technically still active and thus "new guard" despite being un-SL affiliated.)

@SEA - I'm not going to dignify that with a response.

@Skinny - Doujin was just over-reacting to your claim that his eponymous SD is a museum piece.

And nice to meet you as well, Doujin. Is slander a large part of your character?

Is unsupported claims part of yours? You can beat your chest as much as you want because of this "New Guard" thing, but frankly I don't care. In fact, I could have sworn I ignored your nation last year.

Argh Shipspam!