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Der Fuhrer of Der Fourth Holy Reich invites all radical right wing nations to join with him in a pact for mutual protection, defense, and imperialistic expansion.

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FROM: George A. Loak, Supreme Emepror
The Dark Empire of Shazbotdom

The Dark Empire despises Right Wing Nations as they are tyranical and spread propoganda about peace loving, and free, left wing nations. We hearby put you and your alliance on our "Watchdog List". Have a nice day.

Similarly to Shazbotdom, Ravea will being to watch The Fourth Holy Reich carefully. While Ravea is not considered left or right wing-such generalizing terms are below the nation-we are particularly cautious about your statement on "imperialistic expansion." No nation has the right to "Expand" upon another, unless said land is unclaimed.

Furthermore, Ravea wishes to obtain more information on the political beliefs of The Fourth Holy Reich. What exactly does your nation mean by "Right wing?"

The Fascist Union of Atopiana agrees to the Fourth Reich's proposal, and for the edification of others, lays out the Atopian Union of Fascists' ideology:

Our fascism is an extreme right-wing ideology that celebrates the Atopian nation and the human race as an organic community transcending all other loyalties. The AUF heralds an era of national rebirth after the 114 year period of decline and destruction that existed under the anarchists. To this end, the AUF calls for a "spiritual revolution" against signs of moral decay such as individualism and materialism, and seeks to purge "alien" forces and groups that threaten the organic community.

The AUF celebrates youth, unity, and the regenerative power of action. We promote the doctrine of human superiority, imperialist expansion, and are not afraid to utilise extreme violence. We embrace internationalism based on racial and ideological solidarity across national boundaries. The AUF espouses equality of the sexes, and is led by Madam Frank.

Our approach to politics is both populist--in that we seeks to activate "the people" as a whole against our oppressors and enemies--and elitist--in that we treat the people's will as embodied in the supreme leader, from whom authority proceeds downward. The AUF organised a cadre-led mass movement in our drive to seize state power. We have forcibly subordinated all spheres of society to our vision of organic community, usually through a totalitarian state. Both as a movement and a regime, we use mass organizations as a system of integration and control, and organized violence to suppress opposition.

We are hostile to Marxism, liberalism, and conservatism. We do not reject the principles of class struggle and workers' internationalism, instead seeing the working class as the upholders of the race's purity. The boss class is the insiduous evil which has backstabbed and oppressed the people for too long! We reject the liberal doctrines of individual autonomy and rights, political pluralism, and representative government as weak and foolish. Our vision of the New Fascist Order unashamedly clashes with the conservative attachment to tradition-based institutions and hierarchies. We look to the future to provide the basis for our doctrine of Action, that is, constant forward motion.

I like your ideology atopiana, I believe what our world needs however is a universal movement not aligned to race, as long as race is an issue in our ideology the right will always be suppressed and marginalised, racial policies are morally wrong and are the only stumbling block in the path of the right wing. I am from a country where I have faced death threats simply for being born into a particular religion and I have carried around hatred with me because of this I can't help being born the person I was and neither can anyone else we are all God's children no matter what race, religion, sex or skin colour. It is an issue which has to be addressed. There was a time I hated everyone but hatred only consumes you, the fact is without God there is no life for God gives life and lives in us and in every animal and plant. This is not an attack on your ideology as I said I like it I am trying to enlighten you that hatred must not be a policy making factor, passion is fine hatred is worthless and unattractive. We are all equal. Do you think people will support you if you are against them or their friends, no they will support a regime that will strive to benefit and care for all mankind

Now to my ideology. I am against industrialism, profiteering and materialism. Money consumes people and the stress of trying to make money is killing people so I say reject money, it is not one of our needs, we do not need money to live we only need Food, water, air, shelter and clothing. Tare down the cities and bring life back to nature. Farming, healthcare, spirituality, building, and soldiering are the basis of a country, no parliament but preferably a monarch as head of state. Criminals to be punished to the extreme. Equality for all. Barter within your communities with a small amount of outside trade for anything insufficient within the country or community. Education of the family business is carried out by parents. Parents spend time in raising children to be proud of. One year compulsary military training for all young males to teach discipline. Immoral acts are punished to the extreme. Under the Monarch there is a minister of morality and law and the army generals, Under the minister there is an enforcer in every community (If there is an abuse of power the community has the right to rebellion and execute or remove this person and replace him) the enforcer will be the person who any member of the community can go to about any issues with neighbours. An enforcer is elected by the community on the basis of that person acting in an honourable way inside the community.

These are but a few policies in a new world to come but the problem is how to get to this point. Firstly support must be gained to obtain political power by non-violent means, then we start to change the infrastructure of the land gradually reducing industry as we work collectively in digging our way out of the concrete holes we live within with the aim of improving the environment and quality of life. Economic and supply problems will begin to surface as industry declines and those who wish not to surrender their materialistic lives are free to leave the country and are invited to do so, so as soon as power has been gained we begin overproducing long life food supplies in order to stockpile for the shotages that will happen. There will be a 5 year process to retrain people to be valuable to the new society and with this timeframe the work shall be complete.

We need to cleanse the world it is dying we need to cleanse ourselves for we are dying too! The stress we face in this so-called world of CONVENIENCE is killing us all, life is too complicated for us to live we have created all these devices to make life easier but in doing so we are killing the planet and killing ourselves in order to try to obtain these things. It's time to change the world.

OOC:

*brings my long blonde wig and guitar along with band members*

Dude, yo im Ed and this is my band, Wright's Wingers. Can we, like, join? Sweet.

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FROM: George A. Loak, Supreme Emepror
The Dark Empire of Shazbotdom

The Dark Empire despises Right Wing Nations as they are tyranical and spread propoganda about peace loving, and free, left wing nations. We hearby put you and your alliance on our "Watchdog List". Have a nice day.

You know, your name and this little message make a pretty funny oxymoron.

"Dark Empire" despising "Right Wing Nations". Lmao.

Jaredcohenians hold up giant signs with Stars of David and Muslim Crescents in the face of The Fourth Holy Reich.

Jaredcohenians hold up giant signs with Stars of David and Muslim Crescents in the face of The Fourth Holy Reich.

And next, they'll bomb you with English Professors and Grammar books!

PH33R 7H3 M4D 1337 JAREDCOHENIAN 3N61I5H 5K1LLZ!

Shalom and as'alah q'um my brothers

Atopiana, I'd ask to ally with you, but my troops just killed some of your guys earlier, and vice versa. :eek:

Gruß Dich! Candistan Greets its fellow Fascists!

The Errikan Empire likes to think of itself as radical right wing, our foreign policies revolving around imperialism and our domestic policies revolving around very strong capitalism. However, you seem to be referring to fascism, which is another beast entirely.

And next, they'll bomb you with English Professors and Grammar books!

PH33R 7H3 M4D 1337 JAREDCOHENIAN 3N61I5H 5K1LLZ!

PH34R 7H3 M4D 1337 J4R3DC0H3N!4N 3N6L!5H 4ND H4><><0RIN 5K!11Z!

More like it.

Filthy nazis! Run for cover! I must agree with Shazbotdom, in our country one of our pholosophies is "We hate nazis and commies and muslims!"

Filthy nazis! Run for cover! I must agree with Shazbotdom, in our country one of our pholosophies is "We hate nazis and commies and muslims!"

PH34R 7H3 M4D 1337 J4R3DC0H3N!4N 3N6L!5H 4ND H4><><0RIN 5K!11Z!

More like it.

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Filthy nazis! Run for cover! I must agree with Shazbotdom, in our country one of our pholosophies is "We hate nazis and commies and muslims!"

And THAT, my friend, is when Icovir declares war on you.

We're Muslim (and proud), and we're Communist.

And THAT, my friend, is when Icovir declares war on you.

OOC: Our nations have a pact, don't they? Inform me if and when you do in fact declare war. This guys been ASKING for it.

OOC: Our nations have a pact, don't they? Inform me if and when you do in fact declare war. This guys been ASKING for it.

y35, |-|3 |-|/-\5.

Can't declare ware yet, though. I'm in one and currently planning for another one.

Der Fuhrer of Der Fourth Holy Reich invites all radical right wing nations to join with him in a pact for mutual protection, defense, and imperialistic expansion.Keep your imperialistic expansion out of our corner of the Pacific. Otherwise, we'll have to hurt you.

Badly.

Edith Mayenne
Secretary of State
The United States of Allemande

y35, |-|3 |-|/-\5.

Can't declare ware yet, though. I'm in one and currently planning for another one.

OOC: Dood! Look at his stats, man. He can't possibly have an actual fighting army (minus logistics) of 35,000 men. You shoot some rockets, send in a few thousand men. I'll shoot some rockets, send in a few thousand men, send a couple thousand panzers.

OOC: Dood! Look at his stats, man. He can't possibly have an actual fighting army (minus logistics) of 35,000 men. You shoot some rockets, send in a few thousand men. I'll shoot some rockets, send in a few thousand men, send a couple thousand panzers.

OOC: But Emporer Pudu would interupt (like he always does) to "defend" the country (I.E. fight me).

And I can't hold off Emporer Pudu. No one can.

By the way, do you know anyone named Bob or Trevor that went to Ron Burton Training Village?

If you do, then you'll know what I'm talking about.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11944298#post11944298

OOC: But Emporer Pudu would interupt (like he always does) to "defend" the country (I.E. fight me).

And I can't hold off Emporer Pudu. No one can.

By the way, do you know anyone named Bob or Trevor that went to Ron Burton Training Village?

If you do, then you'll know what I'm talking about.

Come now, you aren't going to go to war with him just for expressing this opinion? I mean, if he had directly threatened you, it would be different, but merely expressing this opinion, no matter how contrary or offensive to your position it may be, is not grounds for war.

I know you to be more reasonable than this.

The fact that I sympathize with his position is not the reason for my objection.

Come now, you aren't going to go to war with him just for expressing this opinion? I mean, if he had directly threatened you, it would be different, but merely expressing this opinion, no matter how contrary or offensive to your position it may be, is not grounds for war.

I know you to be more reasonable than this.

I started the war with Emperor Nero because he made fun of my Caliph : D

The fact that I sympathize with his position is not the reason for my objection.

What's up with all these anti-Muslims?!

What's up with all these anti-Muslims?!

OOC: *cough* 911 *cough* *cough* Jihad aiyayayayayai! *cough* BURNING DOWN CATHOLICS CHURCHES IN PROTEST OF BEING CALLED VIOLENT *cough*

:rolleyes:

I started the war with Emperor Nero because he made fun of my Caliph : D



What's up with all these anti-Muslims?!

I'm pro-Muslim man.

As long as the Jew and the Muslim can get along...*puts away his yarmulkeh*

I started the war with Emperor Nero because he made fun of my Caliph : D



What's up with all these anti-Muslims?!

It is less than logical (and far from efficient) to go to war over such matters, unless it is a serious problem, such as his insults being sladerous to the extent of hurting your international position or something along those lines.

And we were actually referring to the communist part (our positions on communism never having been hidden); however, our position is not pro-Islamic.

OOC: *cough* 911 *cough* *cough* Jihad aiyayayayayai! *cough* BURNING DOWN CATHOLICS CHURCHES IN PROTEST OF BEING CALLED VIOLENT *cough*

:rolleyes:

OOC: All of those are just ignorant positions to take.

9/11 was caused by extremists, and all Muslims condemned them.

That "Jihad" part is stupid. Jihad really roughly means "Holy Struggle". The fact that I have to stand up and tell the truth about Islam is Jihad. Anyone who says they are commiting "Jihad" because they're killing others/killing themselves will go to Hell.

Burning down Catholic Churches? Once again, when have I, or at least 1.2 1/2 billion of the 1.3 billion Muslims in the world burned churches or anything? They are just in the wrong.

I'd also like to point out that the Qur'an says (not trying to convert you, just trying to tell you the facts): "And neither shall you kill others or yourself. Truly, Allah is AllSeer, AllKnower".

And to Errikland: I'm anti-Communist in real-life, just not in NS. I'd still like to go to war with him, though.

OOC So does this mean that my band can't play?

OOC So does this mean that my band can't play?

OOC: DERKA, DER! THEY STOLE OUR JERBS!

I dunno what the heck you are talking about.

And can you hyphenate your name so I can pronounce it?

OOC: All of those are just ignorant positions to take.

9/11 was caused by extremists, and all Muslims condemned them.

That "Jihad" part is stupid. Jihad really roughly means "Holy Struggle". The fact that I have to stand up and tell the truth about Islam is Jihad. Anyone who says they are commiting "Jihad" because they're killing others/killing themselves will go to Hell.

Burning down Catholic Churches? Once again, when have I, or at least 1.2 1/2 billion of the 1.3 billion Muslims in the world burned churches or anything? They are just in the wrong.

I'd also like to point out that the Qur'an says (not trying to convert you, just trying to tell you the facts): "And neither shall you kill others or yourself. Truly, Allah is AllSeer, AllKnower".

And to Errikland: I'm anti-Communist in real-life, just not in NS. I'd still like to go to war with him, though.

OOC: You should make a thread in general about it. I'd love to be able to voice the reasoning behind my hatred of all that is Muslim. :D

OOC: You should make a thread in general about it. I'd love to be able to voice the reasoning behind my hatred of all that is Muslim. :D

OOC: Racism. Always a good thing. Well, it's not racism, but it's anti-Semetism for Islam. Icovir, what would that be called?

You know, your name and this little message make a pretty funny oxymoron.

"Dark Empire" despising "Right Wing Nations". Lmao.

OOC:
the "Dark Empire" in the nations title is symbolic of moving from the dark times of the corrupt money hungry parliament which took freedoms away from our citizens, to the enlightened times in which more and more freedoms are granted to the populace. It's to remind the populace of how tyranical the previous regemes had gotten before the Supreme Emperor made the changes to the level of freedoms that the nation currently has.

OOC: Racism. Always a good thing. Well, it's not racism, but it's anti-Semetism for Islam. Icovir, what would that be called?

OOC: I believe that's Islamophobia, or at least that's the name it got in the UK. It's not racist, though, as Islam is a religion which - unlike Judaism - anyone can convert to. Thus, insulting Islam is not a racist action. It's probably more racist to equate Islam with Arabs. :p

IC:

"What do you mean, there's still buildings standing?!"
"Primo, we've destroyed the Fourth Reich as best we can without sending in bulldozers to level every last dwelling."
"Hm. Well, carry on then. And tell the Strategic Rocket Forces General that he's now a Field Marshal."
"Yes, Primo."
"Dismissed."
"Action!"
"Unity!"

The aide executed a textbook about-face, and marched out of the Primo's office...

OOC: I believe that's Islamophobia, or at least that's the name it got in the UK. It's not racist, though, as Islam is a religion which - unlike Judaism - anyone can convert to. Thus, insulting Islam is not a racist action. It's probably more racist to equate Islam with Arabs. :p

IC:

"What do you mean, there's still buildings standing?!"
"Primo, we've destroyed the Fourth Reich as best we can without sending in bulldozers to level every last dwelling."
"Hm. Well, carry on then. And tell the Strategic Rocket Forces General that he's now a Field Marshal."
"Yes, Primo."
"Dismissed."
"Action!"
"Unity!"

The aide executed a textbook about-face, and marched out of the Primo's office...

OOC: Mooooode.

OOC: Mooooode.

OOC: No, just reality. Remember our little nuclear exchange the other night? I believe you came off worst there. :p And will you stop moo-ing? You're not a cow, you know. Anyway, carry on from your nuclear bunker deep within the shattered ruins of your nation. :D

OOC: I believe that's Islamophobia, or at least that's the name it got in the UK. It's not racist, though, as Islam is a religion which - unlike Judaism - anyone can convert to. Thus, insulting Islam is not a racist action. It's probably more racist to equate Islam with Arabs. :p

OOC: Ya, it's called Islamophobia. Not sure if it's used by people in the U.S., seeing as to how 300 million of the 300,192,000 (roughly) people are Islamphobic.

Really, we don't care. We see it as ignorance, turn the other way, and move on. Anyway who does otherwise is not considered Muslim.

The Crusader State of Sol Giuldor warns all to use discretion in this dangerous hour. Although we tend to symphatize much more with extreme right wing nations, we do not condone aggressive imperialistic expansion. Altough we are currently offering our aid to the Fourth Reich in war, we caution him to be more...careful in his choosing of words, and leave him with this warning:

"God and Mother Church must be the main focus of the government. The defense of the faith must come above all else, attack only if neccessary, besides, there are many many other ways to silence opposistion then outright war"

The Crusader State of Sol Giuldor warns all to use discretion in this dangerous hour. Although we tend to symphatize much more with extreme right wing nations, we do not condone aggressive imperialistic expansion. Altough we are currently offering our aid to the Fourth Reich in war, we caution him to be more...careful in his choosing of words, and leave him with this warning:

"God and Mother Church must be the main focus of the government. The defense of the faith must come above all else, attack only if neccessary, besides, there are many many other ways to silence opposistion then outright war"

OOC: That's all good and well, but might I cash in on that military alliance in this particular thread:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=507144&page=3

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