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Return of the Republic(FT)

Taledonia
10-11-2006, 06:54
Too long we have sat idle. Too long we have been away sqwabbling amongst ourselves over nothing. Too long away from the scene of intergalactic politics. It's time to awaken from our long sleep.

Once we were strong, able to rival the Galactic Empire at it's height, dominant within the universe. Now we return to build our numbers once again, to show that we are still alive, to bring order and civilisation to the stars, ending the reign of chaos and barbarity.

All those interested in joining our ranks freely, we welcome you with open arms, and invite you to our home. (http://z10.invisionfree.com/Republic_Forum/index.php?) To those who are not, then a warning, do not stand in our way. We shall spread like wildfire through a dry forest, and our dream shall be realised.

Key Points about the Republic
- Long Standing
- Ties to many powerful nations
- Due to unity, the alliance is more one giant nation, coming under the federal government(The Senate and People's Assembly), while still leaving individual governments leadership of their lands(Provincial governments)
- Combined military(The Legion), taking all the strenghts of each nation, eliminating the weaknesses of our individual forces, also allowing even the smallest member nations to have the power to take on the largest of foes
- Free and open society. Speak your mind, help shape the Republic into the greatest power of the universe
- Equality, all citizens may run for government, join the legions, command armies in the field, participate in the courts
- And most importantly, a warm fuzzy feeling
Hyperspatial Travel
10-11-2006, 12:24
Posting as Loriiea, as my Loriiea account isn't working. Tal, I think this needs a bit more of an outline. I think I'll give it.

- - - -

In essence, the Republic is a group of nations joined together to form the singular Republic. As such, the Republic is the largest singular nation within the galaxy.

A brief outline of the Republic's workings will follow.

Citizenship - At the moment, citizenship in the Republic is earned through activity. Before you become a citizen nation, you may neither vote in the Senate or the People's Assembly. Luckily, citizenship just requires a bit of activity to attain. Posting information about your forces, and twenty posts total earns you citizenship within the Republic - if you're active enough, that might be an hour's activity.

Legions - Legions are the basis of the Republic. Legions are constructed, and are subject to the will of the executive body, the Senate. The beauty of the Republic is that any nation may vote in the Senate and Assembly, and, as such, may have a say in where the Legions go. The Republic is tightly unified by the Public Legions, which are controlled by the Senate, and are the official arm of the Republic.

Private Legions, on the other hand, are a portion of your military which you still control, allowing you to undertake action without waiting on the Senate. This makes for a good balance, as nations cannot act recklessly, and everyone has an almost equal say in the happenings of the Republic.

The People's Assembly - The People's Assembly is the legislative body of the Republic. Each and every nation has three votes within the Assembly, allowing them to have equal say in the laws of the Republic.

The Senate - Senators are voted in, and are also appointed according to activity from a certain nation, giving the more active, the more interested nations, a larger say. Thus, the more active you are within the Republic's affairs, the more power you'll have over such affairs.

The Senate is the executive body of the Republic - marching to war, military affairs, and foreign policy are dictated by the Senate. As such, it is vital to external affairs.



The beauty of the Republic is within the fact that you are not entirely free. You are part of a larger whole. On your own, you are independent entirely, and may do as you wish. But, as part of the Republic, you become powerful. You help dictate where the numerous legions of the Republic go, and still may rule yourself, for the most part. We are not an alliance. Do not mistake us for a mutual-defense alliance.

We are a nation. Unified, strong, and whole. No-one may strike at one nation, or part of the Republic, without angering the whole. Whereas an alliance has politics, and allies may choose to abandon you, betray you, the Republic is unified. Any attack on you, once you join, is an attack on the whole Republic.

Republic Memberlist:
Taledonia: 3.963 billion
Zarathoft: 6.372 billion
Holy Covenant: 4.177 billion
Clan Ansu: 1.999 billion
Loriiea: 198 million
Gargantua City State: 2.833 billion
Naggeroth: 5.404 billion
Telros: 1.109 billion
Marionetonia: 2.181 billion

Total Republican Population: 28.236 billion citizens

As it stands, the Republic is a formidable force. Join your strength to ours. Join the Republic, and join strength. We are not torn by war, nor poverty, nor weakness.

There is safety and power in equal measure here. Are you intelligent enough to grasp it?
Asfaltum
10-11-2006, 13:36
My nation does not wish to enter the Republic yet, as I wish to let it's population increase before I consider joining any major unions, alliances or "big nations". On the other hand, I would like to begin diplomatic contacts, and maybe conclude an alliance, if you deem me as fit to be an allie of the Republic.

Greetings

Asfaltum
Hyperspatial Travel
10-11-2006, 14:04
If you wish to open an embassy, the Republic forums are located here (http://z10.invisionfree.com/Republic_Forum/).

Although, we are curious. Why should your size preclude you from joining an alliance?
Hyperspatial Travel
10-11-2006, 16:45
A pre-sleep bump for the Republic. Note that we've got quite a few issues being debated at the moment, so joining up could get you involved in those..
Taledonia
10-11-2006, 22:07
Thank you HT, I had limited time last night, but I must correct one thing in your outline that you still fight me about. The Senate is chosen! Not elected, althought being active gets you appointed, so keep that in mind.

Anywho, yes, go to our forums if you want to start diplomatic relations with us. If you wish to join us at a later date, however, I would suggest taking the title of Client State at the moment, that means you're almost a member, but still independant. Numerous benifits from this, plus it preps you for membership later.
Hyperspatial Travel
11-11-2006, 01:03
I, on the other hand, advise joining as a full member. We are amending the law to make secession a legal act, (so you need not worry about being stuck the Republic permanently if you don't want to be), and the benefits far, far outweigh the cons.
Telros
11-11-2006, 01:17
Hmmm...this looks interesting HT. By joining, what exactly happens?
Hyperspatial Travel
11-11-2006, 01:37
You become part of the Republic. In essence, your nation merges with the Republic - the Pro-Consul, or your national leader, is still the leader of your nation.

The vast majority of your forces are incorporated into the Republic's navy and army, or Public Legions, which are then subject to the order of the Senate. In that way, you can propose wars, request to lead forces that dwarf those of your nation, and other nations may also benefit from your forces at other times. However, some small part of them, Private Legions remain subject to your authority, so you can still use some forces as you like (investigating new nations, fighting skirmishes, etc).

After you reach a certain level of activity, (20 or so posts), you are seen to be a citizen of the Republic, and then have Senators appointed to represent your nation, and three members of the Citizen's Assembly. It's essentially a brief period to determine whether or not you're interested in staying within the Republic, and whether you're reasonably dedicated.

You can run for positions within the Republic, and you may be given missions from the Senate (and an equal proportion of force with which to accomplish these missions).
Telros
11-11-2006, 01:47
Hmmm...well I think I may join, though I'll visit your forum and look around to be sure. Though, an opportunity to rp with you is too much of a bonus to pass up!
Telros
11-11-2006, 02:19
Ah, fudge it. Sign me up, this is too tempting to pass up! Besides, I only have 600 ships and 850,000 troops to hold and protect 9 worlds and an asteroid belt. I'm in.
Hyperspatial Travel
11-11-2006, 02:42
Well, then. Welcome to the Republic. You're not a citizen nation yet, but I feel, given a bit of time, and activity, you'll be one quite soon.
Hyperspatial Travel
11-11-2006, 03:40
Well, welcome to the Republic, Telros. I've added your name to the memberlist.
Hyperspatial Travel
11-11-2006, 06:21
Marionetonia added to the memberlist, now he's active.
Taledonia
11-11-2006, 22:00
Pfft, you hijacked my thread HT! Ah well, keep up zee good work, you gots alot of free time.:D
Hyperspatial Travel
12-11-2006, 06:21
..you mean the 'free time' which is meant to be my 'studying for end-of-year-exam time'? O_o. No, I just procrastinate.
Bekhaera
12-11-2006, 16:48
This sounds very interesting, i would very much wish to be part of the republic
Clan Ansu
12-11-2006, 17:14
Well, if you're interested, the region is 'The Republic' and the forums can be found here (http://s10.invisionfree.com/Republic_Forum/index.php?). If you are truly interested in adding your nation to those under the Republic's banner, then move in and sign up on the forum with your nation name.

Looking forward to roleplaying with yez.
Taledonia
13-11-2006, 06:39
I welcome you to our nation, and hope you enjoy it. AS was already said by citizen Ansu, please go sign up on our forums, and if you so wish, join our official region, "The Republic".
Asfaltum
13-11-2006, 14:12
The advantages with an alliance:

Advantages for The Republic:

Being able to purchase military ships and weapons from Asfaltum.

Being able to have aid from Asfaltum in the event of war.


Advantages for Asfaltum:

Being able to trade with the Republic, and purchase military ships and weapons.

Being able to enlist aid from the Republic in case of war.

If you agree with the above, then we can consider ourselves allies...

I'll join your site later on and open an embassy... I prefer to be an "independent" nation...

Asfaltum forces are preparing to engage in a rescue mission... you are welcome to assist me if you want, here's the link:
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=506969
Taledonia
13-11-2006, 23:18
We may be able to set up an alliance by offering you the position of "Client Kingdom".

-Remain independant from the Republic, but are subject to the mediation and will of the Senate and People of the Republic in matters of importance
-Free trade
-In events deemed important, military aid from the Republic
-If called upon, your forces must act as auxiliaries for the Republican legions
-Subject to the laws of the Republic
-Able to do as you wish for the most part
Taledonia
14-11-2006, 06:38
Bump.:eek:
The Scandinvans
14-11-2006, 07:11
"Client Kingdom".

-Remain independant from the Republic, but are subject to the mediation and will of the Senate and People of the Republic
-Free trade
-In events deemed important, military aid from the Republic
-If called upon, your forces must act as auxiliaries for the Republican legions
-Subject to the laws of the Republic
-Able to do as you wish for the most partOOC: Sounds like you are taking a lot of ideas from the Roman Empire and are creating a uniquely wise mix of them which shall serve your people well. ;) Even, though I must say that you are turning them more into more of a union of sovereign nations with a twist of the old Roman idea of client kingdoms which are subordinate to them.
Asfaltum
14-11-2006, 08:14
We may be able to set up an alliance by offering you the position of "Client Kingdom".

-Remain independant from the Republic, but are subject to the mediation and will of the Senate and People of the Republic in matters of importance
-Free trade
-In events deemed important, military aid from the Republic
-If called upon, your forces must act as auxiliaries for the Republican legions
-Subject to the laws of the Republic
-Able to do as you wish for the most part

Sorry, I think that an alliance should be based on equal terms...
Like neighbouring nations concluding a pact of "friendship" which is basically equal for both parts...
Hyperspatial Travel
14-11-2006, 08:20
Perhaps. But the benefits to Asfaltum in times of war would far outweigh the benefits to the Republic.
Marionetonia
14-11-2006, 09:29
This sounds very interesting, i would very much wish to be part of the republic

Here are some nuts-and-bolts instructions, which have been hitherto lacking from this thread.

Joining The Republic is a two-step process.

First, you have to more your country into that region--yes, The Republic is a region in NationStates. If you need help changing regions, JUST LOOK AROUND YOU! It's so easy to find or figure out that I'm not going to bother with it here.

Second, you need to sign onto The Republic's website, register your nation, and start posting. After 20 posts, you achieve citizenship in The Republic--you get Senators who can cast votes in our Assembly. The URL is:

http://s10.invisionfree.com/Republic_Forum/index.php

And that's how it's done.

BTW, Bek, the folks there are sticklers for things like punctuation and grammar. You might consider brushing up a bit, or getting some critique from some of the excellent writers who are located in that region.
Clan Ansu
14-11-2006, 11:25
...the folks there are sticklers for things like punctuation and grammar. You might consider...

Sieg heil!

Rebel scum.
Asfaltum
14-11-2006, 13:02
Perhaps. But the benefits to Asfaltum in times of war would far outweigh the benefits to the Republic.

True... but that could be solved by setting a maximum limit to the aid that Asfaltum is able to recieve.
Over that limit, Asfaltum would have to "pay" for favors granted by the Republic. Sounds good?:)
Taledonia
15-11-2006, 01:38
Not really, for by sending any amount of troops to help would constitute us entering into conflict with whoever it is you're fighting, thus we have to commit even more to repell them from our territory.

In conclusion, unless you are equal in strenght to us, willing to join us, or willing to become a client, then we have no business...unless...hmm, check your TG's in like five minutes, I going to send you something.

And Scandivans, we are pretty much Rome in space....well the way we're set up. Tis how I made it almost a year ago, and we're still going biatch!
Taledonia
15-11-2006, 05:31
A mighty bump to attract more people.
Hyperspatial Travel
16-11-2006, 11:27
Shbumpitty bump. We may have two new citizens, incidentally. Congrats to those two.
Chronosia
16-11-2006, 12:06
Not really, for by sending any amount of troops to help would constitute us entering into conflict with whoever it is you're fighting, thus we have to commit even more to repell them from our territory.

In conclusion, unless you are equal in strenght to us, willing to join us, or willing to become a client, then we have no business...unless...hmm, check your TG's in like five minutes, I going to send you something.

And Scandivans, we are pretty much Rome in space....well the way we're set up. Tis how I made it almost a year ago, and we're still going biatch!

Though not without my efforts to render it otherwise :P
Taledonia
16-11-2006, 19:09
Indeed Mr. de Draken, you have done your fair share of Republic smashing, but we have resisted. Now with your new crusade thing, tis my turn to return the favor.
Hyperspatial Travel
17-11-2006, 01:30
Argh! Go bump yourself!
Asfaltum
17-11-2006, 08:18
In conclusion, unless you are equal in strenght to us, willing to join us, or willing to become a client, then we have no business...unless...hmm, check your TG's in like five minutes, I going to send you something.


Yeah, I got your TG, and am willing to have a little "wargame" between me and the republic. Unfortunately I'll have to do that after christmas, since my RL schedule is quite pressed at the moment... I like your idea though...:D
Taledonia
18-11-2006, 05:30
And I like cheese, go figure hey? Anyways, consider this another bump, because HT seems to be beating me in that department.
Asfaltum
20-11-2006, 08:28
And I like cheese, go figure hey?

What's that supposed to mean?:confused:
Hyperspatial Travel
20-11-2006, 08:41
It's just Tal's way of acknowledging my superiority. Y'know, just basic stuff.

In any case, I'm always up for wargames. If by 'wargames', you mean 'accelerating some rocks at high relatavistic speeds into your homeworld'.

:P
Asfaltum
20-11-2006, 14:57
no that's not what I/we mean. we mean fleet vs. fleet on preestablished place... like duel...
Taledonia
21-11-2006, 01:08
No, I meant an actual war, not wargames. Meaning I invade you, sending in fleets, that will crush yours and land troops, and I will eventually conquer your whole nation, unless you can repell me that is.
Kormanthor
21-11-2006, 01:26
If I agree to the title of Client State what would I gain?
Taledonia
21-11-2006, 06:19
These are the terms of a Client Kingdom, as already stated:

-Remain independant from the Republic, but are subject to the mediation and will of the Senate and People of the Republic in matters of importance
-Free trade
-In events deemed important, military aid from the Republic
-If called upon, your forces must act as auxiliaries for the Republican legions
-Subject to the laws of the Republic
-Able to do as you wish for the most part
Marionetonia
21-11-2006, 08:18
You did a good job of laying down the law, Tal, but you could use some help when it comes to explaining the benefits of Republic Membership.

Yes, Membership DOES have its privaleges.

As with any group, you have guaranteed allies in your future endeavors. This includes, God forbid, times if miscreants attempt to get you barred from participating in NS. By being a member, you have a track record that we can use to help stop such a travesty, and compatriots who will stick up for you. There is also the Republic's own BBS, where we debate our internal mattes and share ideas--even engage in some occasional RP of our own. It's not required, but new members often RP their entry into The Republic. I started to (unfortunately, the thread stalled before the Senate could enact its corporate takeover of the Board of Directors and make the Executives work for them, but...we can gloss over that part and just say that it happened).

As an example, some Members drew up some starship designs that they had been working on. I took trotted out a drawing program and turned the freehand drawings into something superior to what either these Members or I could have done alone.

The more obvious benefits occur in RP settings.

The Republican Legion, of course, is vastly powerful--capable of influencing political scenes. We currently have the combined armies of eight nations at our disposal. We are currently discussing our potential involvement in the GFFA/ESUS conflict, in which we serve as a Dark Horse who could come in on either side and potentially sway the course of the battle. The GFFA are our allies, but they were clearly the agressors in the conflict, causing us a great deal of consternation.

As should be obvious from the previous sentence, the Republic has a strong tradition of moral uprightness, which we wish to continue. Part of the appeal of being a part of the Republic is knowing that we use our combined might with care and grace. Part of that care and grace is knowing that we will take care not to subsume your individual identity. You get a voice in The Republic.

We also are pretty generous when it comes to allowing our Members to govern themselves. Our members range from a Scandinavian Liberal Paradise to Compulsory Comsumerist States. All are free to run their societies as they see fit with a minimum of interferance from the Senate.

Of course, free trade, free sharing of technology and as much cultural intermingling as a Member wishes can only help a nation.

I am, by no means, the senior Member. Thus, if there's anything I missed, I invite my fellow Members to clue me, and all of NationStates, in.
Asfaltum
21-11-2006, 08:36
No, I meant an actual war, not wargames. Meaning I invade you, sending in fleets, that will crush yours and land troops, and I will eventually conquer your whole nation, unless you can repell me that is.

That sounds a bit brutal... I was thinking about something more civilized and fair, like 100 of my ships vs. 100 of yours on location that has been established by me (like you said in your TG).
Taledonia
22-11-2006, 00:30
He was asking about become a Client Kingdom, marionetonia, not a member, there's a difference, but thank you for coming in and stating everything said on the first page again.

And Asfaltum, it will be sorta like 100 vs. 100. I said a war, but that I'd invade with few troops and ships, so that you had both home field advantage and numbers, if you so choose to have greater numbers than me.
Asfaltum
23-11-2006, 08:32
No thanks... I'm not in the mood for an invasion...
Duel = Yes, Invasion = No
Taledonia
24-11-2006, 01:22
Why'd you say yes then? Did you just ignore the part about if I win you join the Republic or become a client, if you win then we become allies? Can't really settle that with a skirmish now can we?
Asfaltum
24-11-2006, 11:57
Yes, we can... a skirmish shows what your army is made of. Especially a "skirmish" with equal numbers on both sides. Not just "bam! I land troops, we shoot at one another." Besides it wouldn't just be a "skirmish"... more like a battle, considering that 100 ships is 1/4 of my entire fleet. That way we decide an important matter, with minimal loss of life and damage... must I remind you that all destruction caused by an eventual invasion will be payed by you in the case that you win, since I will then become part of the Republic? ;)
Hyperspatial Travel
24-11-2006, 12:09
..or, alternatively, we could just negotiate it, and have wargames on the side. Y'know. I mean, 'wow. Some of your ships beat some of ours' really isn't the best factor for deciding who to join on the galactic scene.
Asfaltum
24-11-2006, 13:46
..or, alternatively, we could just negotiate it, and have wargames on the side. Y'know. I mean, 'wow. Some of your ships beat some of ours' really isn't the best factor for deciding who to join on the galactic scene.

Sounds good...
Well, let's negotiate... My standpoint is an alliance which is equal for the Republic and for Asfaltum. What's your standpoint? What can you offer for negotiation?
Hyperspatial Travel
24-11-2006, 13:56
I can offer not crushing your fleets into oblivion, burning your worlds' crusts into magma, slaughtering your civilians, and torturing your leaders brutally to death.

In return, you serve me obediently, and unquestioningly in all things.

Of course, you're negotiating with Loriiea, as opposed to the Maker-Mind here. So we'd probably try and get some trade concessions, and military concessions, at the very least.

To be honest, I'm really not that imperialistic. I just like blowing things up. Preferably things that can't shoot back, and are named 'civilians'. If it were up to me, I'd just raze your worlds until you surrendered.

However, a military alliance isn't really all that acceptable to the Republic, especially considering the force disparities. Any war you got dragged into, so would we. Which means, if you turned out to be aggressive, we'd be paying in blood for your every escapade.

On the flip side, if WE got into a war, you wouldn't make all that much difference one way or the other. The only thing I could see as 'equal', is you providing military support in a war, and us providing economic support.
Deatharon
24-11-2006, 14:08
I can offer not crushing your fleets into oblivion, burning your worlds' crusts into magma, slaughtering your civilians, and torturing your leaders brutally to death.

In return, you serve me obediently, and unquestioningly in all things.

Of course, you're negotiating with Loriiea, as opposed to the Maker-Mind here. So we'd probably try and get some trade concessions, and military concessions, at the very least.

To be honest, I'm really not that imperialistic. I just like blowing things up. Preferably things that can't shoot back, and are named 'civilians'. If it were up to me, I'd just raze your worlds until you surrendered.

However, a military alliance isn't really all that acceptable to the Republic, especially considering the force disparities. Any war you got dragged into, so would we. Which means, if you turned out to be aggressive, we'd be paying in blood for your every escapade.

On the flip side, if WE got into a war, you wouldn't make all that much difference one way or the other. The only thing I could see as 'equal', is you providing military support in a war, and us providing economic support.


*Shakes head in dismay*

You are basically saying the Maker-Mind just blows up anything that can not fight back. That is a rather brutal tactic to use against other nations especially ones weaker than yourself.
Asfaltum
24-11-2006, 14:26
Whoho... take it easy... who said anything about being weaker. I got weapons beyond your immagination. Ever wonder why my fleet only number 400 ships? Cuz quality is more important than numbers. Oh, and you like blowing things up? Well, gee, join the club mate!
My nation is basicly deffensive, not aggressive... so, we could just make a deal that Asfaltum first has to ask permission to the Republic, before joining any war. My country only responds to a direct attack on itself or another weaker country, so the risk of us "going on escapades" is really not that big, actually. :)
Hyperspatial Travel
24-11-2006, 14:38
*Shakes head in dismay*

You are basically saying the Maker-Mind just blows up anything that can not fight back. That is a rather brutal tactic to use against other nations especially ones weaker than yourself.

Y'know, you summed it up fairly well. In fact, that's the best summation of Maker-Mind tactics I've ever seen! Exterminate anything that can't fight back. Find out the weaknesses of those who can, and exploit those to exterminate them.

Brutality may be nasty, but it's also efficient.

Whoho... take it easy... who said anything about being weaker. I got weapons beyond your immagination.

Like rubber chicken launchers?

Ever wonder why my fleet only number 400 ships? Cuz quality is more important than numbers.

Because you're a wee nation of a billion or so, and 400 ships means that your ships are slightly higher quality than normal? Oh, wait. I respectfully disagree. More on the basis that cheap, mass-produced ships are more easily replaced, and can simply swarm the enemy. Sure, quality has its perks. But quantity has a quality all of its own.

Oh, and you like blowing things up? Well, gee, join the club mate!

I've been in the club for.. thousands of worlds scoured of life, apparently. That, and a few massive fleets annihilated, the occasional city-world here and there, the smashing of a few Federation fleets, and a genocide on the New Realm. I'd be a founding member of the damn club.


Oh, and it seems reasonable, but I think I'd take it up with Tal. He prefers everyone to be bound to the Republic. Keeps stuff quiet.
Asfaltum
24-11-2006, 14:55
Like rubber chicken launchers?


No, not really...
more like computer viruses that can make your ships open fire on each other... biological weapons, and oh, yes, blackhole generators that can wipe out entire systems... even though I really hate singularity weapons... they spoil the fun.
Chronosia
24-11-2006, 15:02
No, not really...
more like computer viruses that can make your ships open fire on each other... biological weapons, and oh, yes, blackhole generators that can wipe out entire systems... even though I really hate singularity weapons... they spoil the fun.

Viruses and biological weapons aren't really beyond imagination. I ought to introduce you to DISCORD, or to Lucian and the Envenomed Fang.

The latter will bring Papa Nurgle's blessings upon you. Just ask Naboo :D
Naggeroth
24-11-2006, 15:12
more like computer viruses that can make your ships open fire on each other

ooc: When you can convince my Combat Servitors to start shooting my other ships, thats going to be great. Don't know what a Servitor is? How do you program a virus for one then? Consider trying to write a virus for a program your virus designer never even seen the desktop of, let alone the programing. Now, if you somehow manage to create a virus that affects alien computers (Which is unlikely, even TODAY you can't make a virus for both windows and macs, try an entirely alien operating system), then you have to somehow sent that virus to our ship, we then have to exacute the file so that it actually becomes a problem.

Notice the problem with that one?

biological weapons

ooc: My Answer is virus bombs. This little beauty can cause all biological material to begin melting into a form of massive bio-goo, which releases gasses into the atmosphere that can ignite when in sufficient quantities, causing a firestorm across the planet. Works mostly through buildings and stuff to, and none of that pesky needing to infect an entire alien culture.

blackhole generators that can wipe out entire systems... even though I really hate singularity weapons... they spoil the fun.

ooc: So do Psykers able to crush entire warfleets with their mind from the other side of the system, lets not start using stuff that ruins the fun, otherwise it stops becoming fun and the entire RP becomes pointless except so you can "Win", foolish term which doesn't actually exist.

The things you described are not that scary, Even the Black Hole Generators are used all over the place, thus not much special. Got anything else?

Love Anisarian, the Singing Lady
Asfaltum
24-11-2006, 15:18
How about orbs that will shatter all ships in the vicinity through sound-waves? If not shatter, they'll do damage... especially to onboard computers. or... planet-killer bombs?
You're right about the spoiling the fun part though... nothing beats a good old army vs. army confrontation.... all the other weapons are fore women who like pushing buttons...;)
Chronosia
24-11-2006, 15:27
How about orbs that will shatter all ships in the vicinity through sound-waves? If not shatter, they'll do damage... especially to onboard computers. or... planet-killer bombs?
You're right about the spoiling the fun part though... nothing beats a good old army vs. army confrontation.... all the other weapons are fore women who like pushing buttons...;)

Which form of planet killing? Cyclonic Torpedoes? Virus Bombs as mentioned above, two stage warheads that shatter worlds? Maybe a nice huge blast of warp energy that incinerates the world from the inside out. We've got 'em all :D

Your damn right that ground war is what matters, and thats why I love my Imperial Guard and Space Marines :D
Naggeroth
25-11-2006, 02:10
How about orbs that will shatter all ships in the vicinity through sound-waves? If not shatter, they'll do damage... especially to onboard computers.

ooc: Your using sound waves in space? In a vacumme! Sound doesn't travel in space, don't use soundwaves anyway, they need to much fine tuning, for the same amount of money you need to make sound bombs in space you could upsize your nukes and make more of them.

planet-killer bombs?

You ever heard of an Exterminatus? VIrus bombs, as I already explained, Cyclonic Torpedoes go into the crust of the planet and cause the entire surface to become molten lava, never capable of supporting life again, and Atmospheric Incineration bombs, which turn the atmosphere into a massive Firestorm.

We got Planet Killers covered.

You're right about the spoiling the fun part though... nothing beats a good old army vs. army confrontation....

ooc: Damn right, thats why Chron uses Chaos, and I use Imperium of Man, makes ground combat very fun when two forces are similar, yet at the core are so different. After all, you will never see a daemon in my ranks, their not part of my stratergy.

ll the other weapons are fore women who like pushing buttons...

ooc: You know whats funny? You think your so clever, but really...you're not. How about instead of making fun of women, you go and fuck yourself? Not meaning to be insulting, but with an attitude like that, your going to be doing so for a veerrry long time. Cause, guess what? Not all women press buttons, and no woman who reaches the ability to do so would be that stupid during menstral cycle. But I can forgive you, after all you're just following the sterotype that society gave you. Nice to know you can think for yourself hm?

Love Anisarian, The Singing Lady.
Hyperspatial Travel
25-11-2006, 03:01
No, not really...
more like computer viruses that can make your ships open fire on each other, even though you don't use binary, and trying to hack into a closed system in the midst of battle is retarded ... biological weapons, because everyone has them and I'm not that imaginative, and oh, yes, blackhole generators that can wipe out entire systems... even though I really hate singularity weapons... they require tens of thousands of times the energy that the Death Star superlaser did, and fuck up my ships royally when launching.

Fixed for clarity. I think I'll let Tal go ahead with his wargames. If you want to use sound weapons in space, we might as well take an easy win where we can get one.
Asfaltum
27-11-2006, 11:49
Haha... yeah I'm not really the most scientificly minded member of the forum, am I not? :D I'll just take the chance to laugh at myself a bit... Even though the virus part is quite realistic... don't know if any of you have seen the film called "Virus", but that's the kind of virus I was talking about... electronic lifeform that can learn, take over your computer system, use it against you, and use all it's knowledge against you.


In response to Naggeroth... How about instead of making fun of women, you go and fuck yourself? Not meaning to be insulting, but with an attitude like that, your going to be doing so for a veerrry long time. Cause, guess what? Not all women press buttons, and no woman who reaches the ability to do so would be that stupid during menstral cycle. But I can forgive you, after all you're just following the sterotype that society gave you. Nice to know you can think for yourself hm?

Well I'm appaled that you even thought that such a remark was made intentionally. Not living in the US, I can't claim to be familiar with all your slang... But when I say "push buttons", I mean BUTTONS and nothing else!!!... you know, the red things sticking out from walls in nuclear plants...

Even though your missunderstanding is understandable to some degree, I find it quite rude to blame somebody else for an assumption that was made by you, and that shows your stereotypical way of thinking, thinking that all men make such remarks, and that there is nothing as a little missunderstandig: After all, this is an international forum with people from all over the world... expecting them to know all the details of american slang is justified, No? ;)
... and Btw, what the heck does "pushing buttons" have to do with "galactic warfare"? ...or maybe you thought we were talking about something else, and "galactic warfare" was just a "code word", yes? Well, NO it isn't. Buttons mean, just that. Buttons.

I was referring to the scientifically prooven fact, that women are more currious than men. So, I just wanted to say, that all the weaponry that we were discussing was for curious people who like to push buttons for the thrill of pushing buttons, while the real action is on the battlefield.;)
I still don't fully comprehend the slang-meaning of "pushing buttons", but I think that you shouldn't take for granted that everybody else has such an immoral perception of life as you. Go hug a lightning rod!:mad:
Hyperspatial Travel
27-11-2006, 12:23
Even though the virus part is quite realistic... don't know if any of you have seen the film called "Virus", but that's the kind of virus I was talking about... electronic lifeform that can learn, take over your computer system, use it against you, and use all it's knowledge against you.

Y'know, saying 'this is quite realistic', and then suffixing it with 'have you ever seen this film...' isn't the best way to lend your argument credibility. But, yeah. AI-viruses are quite possible. Which is why we run closed networks on our warships in any case, and have AI ourselves to protect against them.

Trust me. People have tried to use viruses in warfare a hundred times here in FT. They're something that work well to spread havoc among civilian networks, and hurt morale.

But if you can get your electronic bit of code past the enemy shields, past the armor, decode their computer systems, understand the numeric system they're using, and wait for your virus to infect their computers.. why not just blow up their blinkin' ship?!

Not living in the US, I can't claim to be familiar with all your slang

Neither Anisarian nor I live in the US. Thus, it's not 'our' slang. And the way you phrased it, I don't think it required an extensive knowledge of slang to understand. And there's a difference between immorality, and realising that, 99 times of out 100, you'll be referring to what you term the 'slang' version. In cases like those, you don't get the benefit of the doubt.
Chronosia
27-11-2006, 12:29
Yup, Viruses and Viral AI's are something you can be assured HT is prepared against, what with having a run in with Discord and all :D Nice evil twisted megalomaniacal worship-crazy Machine Spirit/AI demanding utter devotion from its followers. Part human mind, part viral AI, part core AI....All insanity :D Nothing but an amusing distraction, of course, next to the Maker-Mind.

I think you may also have over-reacted the slightest bit to Ani's comments, in which case you need to chill :P I wuv immorality...
Taledonia
28-11-2006, 06:47
I like my super weapon, even though I rarely use them now that I'm actually strong enough to survive in RP's that you just use ship to ship and shocktrooper to Chaos marine. Crystal Angels, were a bit wanky, but fun none-the-less, and made a little bit of sense, besides, it's future tech, exageration made fun!:D

Anywho, how's about a "war" that is more like a skirmish. Explanation: Mainly a war of propaganda and diplomacy, then ending with a large battle that decides the outcome of the whole thing.

And wtf? Where was I when all these things were being said? Yeesh, when I have time nothing happens, but as soon as my schedual fills up all these things come up.
Asfaltum
28-11-2006, 08:26
And wtf? Where was I when all these things were being said? Yeesh, when I have time nothing happens, but as soon as my schedual fills up all these things come up.

:D Join the club...

As for a skirmish... well, I won't be here for christmas, so we'll see after the holydays :) ...sounds like a good idea though