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Who's on what side?

All I know is:

Dephire, Clandonia Prime, Transylvania, and the Idigenous Forces of Algeria VS. Greater Morocco

I hope none of this battle is going through the Med.

I hope none of this battle is going through the Med.

This is on a different Africa map, so not its not.

Who's on what side?

All I know is:

Dephire, Clandonia Prime, Transylvania, and the Idigenous Forces of Algeria VS. Greater Morocco

There are a few more on GM's side.

The Dominion Commonwealth (Dephire, Clandonia Prime, and Me) and the Freedom Fighter of Algeria Vs. Greater Morocco & Kulikovia & North Tolemac.

Did I forget anybody?

Thanks Transylvania.

I'm fighting with the Dominion Commonwealth.

Thanks Transylvania.

I'm fighting with the Dominion Commonwealth.

Cool! And you want to join the DC? :p

The Dominion Commonwealth (Dephire, Clandonia Prime, and Me) & the Freedom Fighters of Algeria & Icovir Vs. Greater Morocco & Kulikovia & North Tolemac.

Can call me Trans or JWolf, it is easier then Transylvania.

I think its safe to say we will win, Trans AMF wont join in will he as hes helped GM before.....

JWolf you have a tg from me that you might want to read..*is also tagging this thread for further reading, but probably won't participate*

Ok, Trans or JWolf is so much easier than the long version, lol.

I'll think about joining the DC, however. Seems like a good alliance to me.

Kulikovia, a rather large fleet for such a nation with a defence budget of less than 70 billion.

I need to do some math, I didn't add up the numbers of my ships (stupid me)

I think its safe to say we will win, and Trans AMF wont join in will he as he has helped GM before.....

AMF is my Gholgoth brother. ‘Nuff said about that.

JWolf you have a tg from me that you might want to read..*is also tagging this thread for further reading, but probably won't participate*

Checked and resend on back to you.

Ok, Trans or JWolf is so much easier than the long version, lol.

I'll think about joining the DC, however. Seems like a good alliance to me.

Cool and it is a good alliance. A brotherhood with me at the helm.

I am Playing The Algerians and They will fight against GM and his Allies and your Troops, but mainly GM and Friends are going to be targeted.

I am Playing The Algerians and They will fight against GM and his Allies and your Troops, but mainly GM and Friends are going to be targeted.

So, really they are on my side. Because we are not the invaders, but the saviors.

So, really they are on my side. Because we are not the invaders, but the saviors.

WRONG! They think you are Invaders also, so your Troops will have to fight them also.

WRONG! They think you are Invaders also, so your Troops will have to fight them also.

What troops? I don't have troops heading there. So stop with the your troops thing, okay?

Ooc: wtf?


I just releashed orbital projectiles, bits of metal that travel fast like artifical meteors onto your ships. They are made of titanium and tungston compounds to reduce atmoshperic melting. They are designed to penertrate anything, about the same power as a sub-terrain nuclear explosion but of course without fallout.

I just releashed orbital projectiles, bits of metal that travel fast like artifical meteors onto your ships. They are made of titanium and tungston compounds to reduce atmoshperic melting. They are designed to penertrate anything, about the same power as a sub-terrain nuclear explosion but of course without fallout.

Orbital projectiles? We might as well just nuke the crap out of eachother.

Orbital projectiles? We might as well just nuke the crap out of eachother.

That would be unwise, as these orbital platforms also contain nukes. Check out my lovely little wiki for details of my WMD. I proberly unlike you can shoot things down, and with such a small budget I doubt you could even afford nukes.

So we're using nukes n' shit now? WMD's? The damn war could be over in a second, using those weapons would end this rp right here and now. I wanted to have a nice drawn out war.

So we're using nukes n' shit now? WMD's? The damn war could be over in a second, using those weapons would end this rp right here and now. I wanted to have a nice drawn out war.

I've not nuked anyone, I just used darts on you from orbit.

No nukes, we Dominion members can not use WMD without permision of the Lord Marshall.

No nukes, we Dominion members can not use WMD without permision of the Lord Marshall.

Damn straight! :p

JWolf, wouldn't the "Rods from God" count as WMD's? Certainly they can be just as devastating as nukes (while lacking in the radiation)

Damn straight! :p

I love being part of an Empire....:D

JWolf, wouldn't the "Rods from God" count as WMD's? Certainly they can be just as devastating as nukes (while lacking in the radiation)

Not on ships on land they are bad, they are conventional weapons.

JWolf, wouldn't the "Rods from God" count as WMD's? Certainly they can be just as devastating as nukes (while lacking in the radiation)

I will just call it that the attack was a mistake. Like somebody fell on the button. Hey, it could happen.

CP, you should have ask for the use of WMD in one of your post. But you did use them on military targets. Good job, you have learned something.

I will just call it that the attack was a mistake. Like somebody fell on the button. Hey, it could happen.

CP, you should have ask for the use of WMD in one of your post. But you did use them on military targets. Good job, you have learned something.

Wait I hit military targets? I thought I was targetting cruise ships! jk :p

Wait I hit military targets? I thought I was targetting cruise ships! jk :p

HA! :p

Not on ships on land they are bad, they are conventional weapons.
Tell that to whoever is unlucky enough to be under the darned things when they land:p

I'd probably like them a bit more if there had been invented a working method of stopping the darned things once fired..Which nobody seems to have, at least not in mt..

Tell that to whoever is unlucky enough to be under the darned things when they land:p

I'd probably like them a bit more if there had been invented a working method of stopping the darned things once fired..Which nobody seems to have, at least not in mt..

Hmm. An interesting problem. I'd submit it to the designers at the draftroom.

Tell that to whoever is unlucky enough to be under the darned things when they land:p

I'd probably like them a bit more if there had been invented a working method of stopping the darned things once fired..Which nobody seems to have, at least not in mt..

Well its preaty hard to stop something going at several times mach, these things are like meteors. So try stopping them.

Well its preaty hard to stop something going at several times mach, these things are like meteors. So try stopping them.

Where is Superman when you need him? :rolleyes:

Where is Superman when you need him? :rolleyes:
Well if anyone can find a way, our friends at the draftroom can..Not that I'm all that hopefull..Those things are just evil in the way they use physics to do what they do..The only way I can think of, really, is to try not to be at the aiming point when they hit it, as they are unguided..

Well its preaty hard to stop something going at several times mach, these things are like meteors. So try stopping them.

The solution, of course, is to break them before they're too far in the atmosphere, allowing them, like meteorites, to burn up in the atmosphere. (in theory)

Or just shoot down the satellites before they can launch.

Well if anyone can find a way, our friends at the draftroom can..Not that I'm all that hopefull..Those things are just evil in the way they use physics to do what they do..The only way I can think of, really, is to try not to be at the aiming point when they hit it, as they are unguided..

The best idea! 200 points for you!

I'd just like to lmao at this a bit.

I knew pulling Hatarian forces out of the colonies would cause confusion, but this much I hadn't expected. :)

I have not posted in the IC thread since it degenerated into a big OOC argument. This war looks like an OOC grudge match to me, so I am going to stay out of it.

I have not posted in the IC thread since it degenerated into a big OOC argument. This war looks like an OOC grudge match to me, so I am going to stay out of it.

Bye then, just because you would loose. :p

Bye then, just because you would loose. :p

Don't be impolite. Numbers and age arn't everything.

I'd just like to lmao at this a bit.

I knew pulling Hatarian forces out of the colonies would cause confusion, but this much I hadn't expected. :)

Good job, AN! You caused it all.

I have not posted in the IC thread since it degenerated into a big OOC argument. This war looks like an OOC grudge match to me, so I am going to stay out of it.

It is more like an all fight for the land, in which it should be.

The best idea! 200 points for you!
You do realize, JWolf, that this very fact makes them woefully in accurate..As even planetary rotation can affect their aim, if only a bit..Not the best weapons to use against any moving target, even a, relatively, slow one like a fleet at sea.

You do realize, JWolf, that this very fact makes them woefully in accurate..As even planetary rotation can affect their aim, if only a bit..Not the best weapons to use against any moving target, even a, relatively, slow one like a fleet at sea.

Coriolis Force is that powerful, at the speed they are going I doubt it could affect them.

You misunderstood my point, Clandonia..I wasn't saying the rods would move..They are pretty much guaranteed to land where they were aimed, because of the reason you mentioned above..I was saying that the target might not be there any more when they land there.

You do realize, JWolf, that this very fact makes them woefully in accurate..As even planetary rotation can affect their aim, if only a bit..Not the best weapons to use against any moving target, even a, relatively, slow one like a fleet at sea.

I do see your point.

I had real life obligations I had to tend to most of today. I am trying to catch up on the many relevant posts. I am a bit confused on a few points.

Is Transylvania ignoring this thread or participating? If he is participating, I believe I need to post some damage from an attack he made.

Is Dephire attacking Algeria or not? I saw an IC post that looked like he was planning to attack, and also saw an OOC saying he wasn't.

A few comments I feel I must make...

a) The thread is modern tech. I am not accepting attacks from flying navies.

b) Any fleets trying to enter the Mediterranean to land troops in Algeria have to pass through the Straight of Gibraltar. It is a bottleneck. Ground forces in my nation will be able fire on hostile fleets as they attempt to pass by, and they will do so.

c) If Dephire is going to fight in Algeria, I would like to know what his defense budget is like. The NSEconomy for Dephire is kinda goofy. Obviously you can't have a nation with a 100% tax rate that spends no money on social welfare.

d) Clandonia Prime is involved in two threads involving two different Africas. Just because he had a fleet in the Mediterranean in the Colonization of Africa thread doesn’t mean that same fleet simultaneously exists in the Mediterranean here. His navy should have to move into the region normally.

e) I don't think the native Algerians will support the Hatarian government. The Hatarians sabotaged the Algerian's infrastructure on their way out. If Hataria left a single politician behind, I would think the Algerians would be more inclined to hang him than follow his orders.

I just releashed orbital projectiles, bits of metal that travel fast like artifical meteors onto your ships. They are made of titanium and tungston compounds to reduce atmoshperic melting. They are designed to penertrate anything, about the same power as a sub-terrain nuclear explosion but of course without fallout.

Despite I'm on your side, it's an exaggeration... Orbital projectiles are going to have 8 km/s, beyond that will make them burn too much. So they will penetrate and damage ships, but nothing like a nuke.
But if we use such weapons, it would open the way to airships, etc - maybe let's just leave it with RL tech.

Is Dephire attacking Algeria or not? I saw an IC post that looked like he was planning to attack, and also saw an OOC saying he wasn't.

b) Any fleets trying to enter the Mediterranean to land troops in Algeria have to pass through the Straight of Gibraltar. It is a bottleneck. Ground forces in my nation will be able fire on hostile fleets as they attempt to pass by, and they will do so.

c) If Dephire is going to fight in Algeria, I would like to know what his defense budget is like. The NSEconomy for Dephire is kinda goofy. Obviously you can't have a nation with a 100% tax rate that spends no money on social welfare.



I am not attacking Algeria, but I am about to invade it. Hostile action will only be a resort of defense. Also, I don't have to go through the Straight since I am using Kirovs and I think (not sure as of yet) Transylvania is providing transportation from his European territories to Algeria.

Defence budget is roughly twenty trillion Sarajevos, or close to twenty-nine trillion USD. Also, I am also rather confused about my own economy, especially since the past few issues were SUPPOSED to bring down my tax rate. Hell, I even pitched in the Social Welfare area as well. Stupid tracker...

This is the map of the area we are fighting in...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/Link557/icovirafrica900.jpg

That is the map Icovir made. I actually own Wester Sahara also, but it isn't marked on the map. Morocco occupies that territory in real life also.

Woah. How the hell does that work out if Transylvania has most of Europe under his control? 0.0

I'm so confused!!!!

Woah. How the hell does that work out if Transylvania has most of Europe under his control? 0.0

I'm so confused!!!!

There are at least 3 Europes out there not including the various Earths. This is just one of them. Transylvania has one, and so does Nova Europa. There are probably more I don't know about.

So in this RP, we are going with his Europe? Or should we just keep Europe as a neutral barrier of co-existance between nations?

So in this RP, we are going with his Europe? Or should we just keep Europe as a neutral barrier of co-existance between nations?

I would imagine since people are going after Hataria's land, his map should be used, which is partly represented by the map I just posted. All the other Europes still exist, just off somewhere else. At least, that is the way I would play it.

The funny thing is Hataria actually owns two copies of Algeria. He got another one in the Colonization of Africa thread I think.

Can I still have my 'invasion' occuring? Because if I have to delete one more effin post, I'm gonna scream.

The funny thing is Hataria actually owns two copies of Algeria. He got another one in the Colonization of Africa thread I think.

:eek: Well, Hataria did say that if Trans and I defeat him, then we get to have control over all of his territories. Ah well. I guess it wouldn't matter if Trans and I just took over the territories and then tried for the Hatarian homeland. Quite frankly, I don't care. All I wanted originally was Spain and bragging rights. Now I just want to get as much of Hataria's Colonies as possible so that I can use them to aid the war effort.

The thread is open, so you are free to invade. I don't remember all the contents of your post to judge if the post was appropriate given the situation as you now know it.

Come to think of it, I just had an idea...

Hataria owns two Algerias. He has one in the map I just posted (Icovir's), and he recently claimed another copy of Algeria in the colonization of Africa thread.

I could fight Icovir for the one near us. You guys could fight for the one in the colonization of africa thread (Clandonia Prime has territory right by it). Also, I believe nobody is marked as owning Europe in the colonization of Africa thread, so that could possibly be where Transylvania is located.

At least that might solve the OOC fights we have been having.

Basically my Army had been stationed in France and on the verge of invading Spain when Transylvania informed me that Spain wouldn't be worth my time and I should claim right over Algeria. So here I am with over fourteen million soldiers and roughly ten-twenty thousand tanks just sitting there waiting for some opportunity to arise. Well, in the thread where I was about to invade Spain in, my navy had arrived with hundreds of vessels. I then switched over to this thread so that I could invade Algeria.

Basically my Army had been stationed in France and on the verge of invading Spain when Transylvania informed me that Spain wouldn't be worth my time and I should claim right over Algeria. So here I am with over fourteen million soldiers and roughly ten-twenty thousand tanks just sitting there waiting for some opportunity to arise. Well, in the thread where I was about to invade Spain in, my navy had arrived with hundreds of vessels. I then switched over to this thread so that I could invade Algeria.

Right...

Your 14 million guys were in Icovir's France?

It is pretty confusing that we have 2 Africas and 2 Europes in the thread...

Right...

Your 14 million guys were in Icovir's France?

Well, in the closed thread versus Hataria, it was Transylvania's France. In this thread, I'm so confused...lol.

I think the best way to resolve all this is to...


Have Clandonia Prime fight whoever for Hataria's copy of Algeria in the Colonization of Africa thread.

You and Transylvania fight Hataria and Axis Nova like you were doing.

Icovir and I duke it out for the other Hataria Algeria represented on Icovir's map.

But then I wouldn't have my right of claim if Hataria does in fact lose to Transylvania and I. Then my character will get furious and just start invading left and right...

Also, that would result in yet another of my posts having to be deleted, and I'm getting rather irritated with posting and having to repost something else.

But then I wouldn't have my right of claim if Hataria does in fact lose to Transylvania and I. Then my character will get furious and just start invading left and right...

Also, that would result in yet another of my posts having to be deleted, and I'm getting rather irritated with posting and having to repost something else.

You wouldn't have your right to claim what?

You wouldn't have your right to claim what?

Right of claim over all of Hataria's colonies if he were defeated. He stated that if he were defeated that I would have claim over them. Seeing how everyone is taking the opportune moment to strike out at his colonies while he is distracted is rather frustrating.

Right of claim over all of Hataria's colonies if he were defeated. He stated that if he were defeated that I would have claim over them. Seeing how everyone is taking the opportune moment to strike out at his colonies while he is distracted is rather frustrating.

I can relate. I was equally frustrated when I had a crew of nations about to boot Hataria out of my neighborhood.

There is still an Algeria out there with no troops. We'll call it New Algeria (the Colonization of Africa thread one) to distinguish it from the other...

What Bretton did with the other territories is beyond my control.

And there is nothing stopping you from taking Axis Nova's territory.

Or...we could simply split the Algeria in this one into two equal parts. One for you and your allies, and one for me and my allies...

To be honest, I don't really want Algeria. My main interest both IC and OOC is not having a nation in that territory that is going to bother me all the time (both IC and OOC).

As you can see on my map, there is a lot of unclaimed territory around my nation that is there for the taking if I need to expand.

How about this idea. We ignore this thread and GM can take over the Hatarian Algeria represented on Icovir's map.

The Hatarian Algeria, that me and Dehpire will be dealing with, will be the one on Colonization of Africa thread.

That will work out for all of us.

How about this idea. We ignore this thread and GM can take over the Hatarian Algeria represented on Icovir's map.

The Hatarian Algeria, that me and Dehpire will be dealing with, will be the one on Colonization of Africa thread.

That will work out for all of us.

Ok, sounds good.

I'll change my map.

GM, do you want to have a seperate war between me and you (ONLY) for Hatarian Algeria?

I'll use only 6,000,000 troops, and you can use 6,000,000, even if you can't afford it.

We both have the same manpower, also.

For example, I have a Nuclear Defense System (which is why my troop numbers are low), and nuclear weapons I can launch. You have the same. Deal?

Ok, sounds good.

I'll change my map.

GM, do you want to have a seperate war between me and you (ONLY) for Hatarian Algeria?

I'll use only 6,000,000 troops, and you can use 6,000,000, even if you can't afford it.

We both have the same manpower, also.

For example, I have a Nuclear Defense System (which is why my troop numbers are low), and nuclear weapons I can launch. You have the same. Deal?

I will fight you, but I would prefer to use my real army. Perhaps you could use 2,000,000 troops?

And there is nothing stopping you from taking Axis Nova's territory.

Other than the troops I have there, of course...