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Two heads for the price of one. OOC: thread

The Black Agents
05-11-2006, 22:58
Of coure you all know the drill!
Blackhelm Confederacy
06-11-2006, 02:36
Flaws with post:

- The island is almost 30 miles away from shore, as I have said before there are oil rigs all around it. That should have been a hint that it was kinda far out.

- The North side of the island, the one that faces shore, has an almost vertical drop, with no overhang on the cliff.

- The Griffincrest family has lived on the island for awhile now. I think that they would know of any caverns on the cliff wall, and have something in place. Claudius was terribly paranoid, especially after the Shadowman assault.

- I mentioned earlier in the thread that a Mirage patrol boat is constantly postioned to watch that area.

- I also said the bottom of the cliff is all jagged rocks, making the boats ability to pull up to the cliffside terribly difficult.

- As I said the jet-ski was destroyed by one AV-18 VTOL gunship, and a single Mirage patrol boat then went to investigate. There are still loads of other boats, drones, and choppers out there on patrol. My men are not stupid, and won't all flock to a single jet ski.
The Black Agents
26-11-2006, 09:26
Flaws with post:

- The island is almost 30 miles away from shore, as I have said before there are oil rigs all around it. That should have been a hint that it was kinda far out.

- The North side of the island, the one that faces shore, has an almost vertical drop, with no overhang on the cliff.

- The Griffincrest family has lived on the island for awhile now. I think that they would know of any caverns on the cliff wall, and have something in place. Claudius was terribly paranoid, especially after the Shadowman assault.

- I mentioned earlier in the thread that a Mirage patrol boat is constantly postioned to watch that area.

- I also said the bottom of the cliff is all jagged rocks, making the boats ability to pull up to the cliffside terribly difficult.

- As I said the jet-ski was destroyed by one AV-18 VTOL gunship, and a single Mirage patrol boat then went to investigate. There are still loads of other boats, drones, and choppers out there on patrol. My men are not stupid, and won't all flock to a single jet ski.


In reply to your said " Flaws" from top to bottom

"The island is almost 30 miles away from shore, as I have said before there are oil rigs all around it. That should have been a hint that it was kinda far out. "

And the fact that when the jet ski was sent out it was about mid afternoon almost dusk, When I actually get to you island it is very much dark outside. meaning time had elapsed. the time in between is not relevant to my getting there around the same time as the jet ski

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"The Griffincrest family has lived on the island for awhile now. I think that they would know of any caverns on the cliff wall, and have something in place. Claudius was terribly paranoid, especially after the Shadowman assault"

The cavern we are talking about would not be seen as an area that would be usable to any normal type of assassin. Not even the said Shadowmen. One would not think about the said cavern being used. No matter how paranoid one would be. Not to mention this cavern is extremely small and could have developed over the course of about 5 weeks with the right circumstances. It is a cavern that is only accessible during low tide without a deep drive. Not really something to even to worry about. Now if this cavern was easily accessible from the outside with little trouble and had an access way to the top, then yes I could see you having a problem with this cavern, but seeing as that not the case.... not much room to start complaining.

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"I mentioned earlier in the thread that a Mirage patrol boat is constantly postioned to watch that area."

Your talking about trying to spot a black object in black water with an over cast with at best flood lights which reflect off water, the chances of your boats being able to spot something that small and insignificant in a completely different zone as the jet ski, plus a place where the ability to climb is almost impossible for any normal human, the chances of this happening are almost 0. Your men by human nature are not going to be super awake all the time, plus not be bored. And with the events of the jet ski only about 10 mins apart they will spend less time actually looking at the water, and talking about the explosion. Thus taking their minds off their jobs making it easier for me to get my agent into the area


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"I also said the bottom of the cliff is all jagged rocks, making the boats ability to pull up to the cliffside terribly difficult."

Again the " boat " I am using is about the size of a small life raft that had a small electric motor. And the jagged rocks would actually work in my favor as the agent could hide behide on of them along with his "boat". Plus with those rock it would make the said job of your patrols that much more difficult to preform as the could not get as close to the cliff wall as my agent. This argument only shoots your own foot.

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"As I said the jet-ski was destroyed by one AV-18 VTOL gunship, and a single Mirage patrol boat then went to investigate. There are still loads of other boats, drones, and choppers out there on patrol. My men are not stupid, and won't all flock to a single jet ski."

No and I never really excepted them to. the jet ski was to actually increase the amount of security. The best way to hide is in a crowd. And the one thing you seem to forget is that the main diversion would be the large boat exploding in to a massive crater making fireball at your docks. That is what I used as my Diversion. And also said in my post. the debris wold make all of your sensors go crazy because they are to detect anything out of the ordinary, and I am sure falling rocks would be out of the Ordinary. Plus with an explosion of that size, anyone with brains would have to look at it. humans can resist looking at destruction.


If you have anymore unhelpful argument please use them.

And also please reply.
The Black Agents
26-11-2006, 21:14
Bump for black helm