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Weapons Deals with the Incorporated States

Uldarious
05-11-2006, 07:30
(OOC: I'm PMT, I'm looking for some skilled to design me several new items for my military.
Also my entire national population is made up of genetically modified humans and so, for instance, my heavy weapons infantry can deal with loads that are significantly beyond the level of a normal soldier. Not to the point of silliness of course, say between 1.2-1.8 times normal human strength, maybe some would achieve twice normal strength for thier body size but this is rare and anything past this would require expensive modifactions that just aren't rational.)

IC:
OFFICIAL GOVERNMENT REQUEST
From: Ulashar Totaim, Head of Weapons Development.
To all the great weapons manufactories of the world, hear our requests.
We of Uldarious are a warlike people and yet we find our weapons are no longer competative in this new world of powerful firearms and military technogoly.
To this end many of our weapons need to be redesigned.
However, we have seen the usefulness of foreign weapons and are willing to have such a nation of repute design our next generation of weapons.
We will be willing to pay handsomely but there are two conditions, outlined below.
Firstly: the technology must be of a puissant nature, we don't want sub-par weaponry.
Second: the technology must be capable of production in Uldarious using solid science (OOC: no rayguns) as our nation does not want to have to constantly buy new shipments from overseas.
Money is not a problem, at least not in the development stage, so long as the weapon is powerful, accurate and reliable.

The items we wish made for us are said below:
Infantry anti-tank weapon. Item should be capable of armour penetration of modern tanks and should be reusable.
Automatic rifle.
Assault rifle and sniper rifle.
Handgun.

In addition to these infantry weapons we would also be willing to finance the research and construction of a competative main battle tank, anti-air missiles of both close range and long-range capabilities and a armoured personal carrier.

If there are any further queries or questions do not hesitate to ask them.
Fortune favour you.
Ulashar Totaim.
Uldarious
06-11-2006, 06:57
Bump
Uldarious
07-11-2006, 09:11
I'm just gonna keep bumping till someone answers...It could be months, come on.
I need you guys to do what I can't
Otagia
07-11-2006, 09:30
Pale Rider Arms will happily supply you with our latest battle rifle, the M25 HVAR (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9822817&postcount=3). With the highest muzzle velocity on the market, the M25 provides unparalleled penetration against the thickest armor. Furthermore, the built-in SmartGun system provides near perfect accuracy, even when fired from the hip! Buy with the Fumetsu Na Heishi battle armor system (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11884139&postcount=1) and receive a $200 discount per pair!

For a sidearm, we recommend the PRA Predator III heavy pistol (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9822812&postcount=2). Firing the powerful 13x30mm Magnum round, it packs a serious punch.

We also offer several sniper systems, including the M210 and M220 sniper rifles (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9822822&postcount=4), along with the Godslayer 60mm AM/AV gyrojet rifle (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9822826&postcount=5). With its massive rocket assisted shell, the Godslayer can disable most armored vehicles from extreme distances while still retaining usability by unaugmented humans.

OOC: The M25 should fit your needs nicely. The increased velocity comes with a commensurate increase in recoil, which your soldiers should be able to handle nicely, even on automatic fire. Same goes for the Predator III. Figured I might as well throw in the Fumetsu Na Heishi as well. After all, if you're spending all that money to enhance your soldiers, might as well protect your investment, ne? I also have a few suits of powered battle armor if you'd like me to present them to you.
Uldarious
07-11-2006, 09:35
I am indeed pleased with the quality of these weapons.
I also have just posted this page on the GASN forums however and I will wait a few days to see if they can come up with anything of equal quality, or better, for my armies.
Still I thnak you for your interests and I would indeed like to see some of these powered armours, which I can see being very useful in certain circmstances.
Otagia
07-11-2006, 10:10
Pale Rider Arms offers both the Tetsu no Kami (http://wiki.esusalliance.co.uk/index.php?title=Tetsu_no_Kami_Battle_Armor) and Akuma (http://wiki.esusalliance.co.uk/index.php?title=Akuma_Battle_Armor) models of powered battle armor. Both offer exceptional protection from threats, and allow the use of exceptionally heavy weaponry.
Uldarious
07-11-2006, 10:15
Hmmmm is there some way I would be able to gain the technology to produce these weapons within my nation?
If so how much?
Also may I see examples of these "heavy weapons"?
That being said thios selection does look promising.
Hurtful Thoughts
08-11-2006, 05:33
OOC: Must... compete... against.. Otagia!!!!
A PMT nation with troops highly resistant to bone shattering recoil...
Now what might I have that could interest him...

The much debated HM-320?

(Its biggest advantage is the ability to fire oversize rifle grenades and not interfere with the operation of the rifle, or, alternately, function as a really light and crappy mortar that can lob massive shells short distances)

My competitor for the HVAR is the CM-26 Squad Automatic Rifle.

Then there is Carbandia's CAR-4 Wyvern, made by Chadran arms.

Both are built with the intention to use the new GASN standard rifle caliber.

The CM-26 was designed to fire a lot of bullets fast and capable of penetrating* Class 3 Body armor out to 600+ meters (class 4 at 300).

*Or cause sufficient Blunt Force Trauma to cause death

I also, still offer the CC-35C bolt action cannon, er, sniper rifle, 35 x 203 mm cartridges used...
(essentailly a scaled up PTRD)
Otagia
08-11-2006, 06:22
Heavy weaponry includes the forementioned Godslayer cannon, the Iron Rain rotary shotgun, and the M107 GPHMG (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9822833&postcount=7), to be used as hand-held battle/assault rifle equivalents. The Akuma also has an universal PA weapons mount, with its own unique load-out (OOC: Only partially statted thus far. Working on fixing that).
Uldarious
08-11-2006, 11:42
Well both of you have some impressive weapons, I'll examine things further tomorrow and if no one else makes much of a post then I'll choose one of you...Or maybe take my pick and arm different sections of my army with different corporation weapons.
That said, do you have any MBT's and anti-air missiles which I might be able to buy?
Also may I buy the blueprints for any of these weapons so that I may construct them within my nation, so rearming and arming my army doesn't get too tedious.
Otherwise there'd be a lot of "I'll take another hundred thousand, and ten billion bullets".
Carbandia
08-11-2006, 12:36
Well since you mentioned it, I might as well throw the Wyvern into the mix..Even if, since his troops are pmt enhanced, they might prefer a bigger tool than the 6,5mm round it fires..

here it is, in case you're interested (http://z9.invisionfree.com/GASN/index.php?showtopic=358)
Otagia
08-11-2006, 12:41
Don't suppose you have a copy that isn't on the GASN forums, so I can see what I'm competing with? ;)

As for manufacturing rights, I usually prefer not to hand out rights to weapons except to allies and repeat customers. Ammunition rights, however, I have no problem with selling. 500 million for each type sound good? After all, you will be going through the stuff like candy. ;)

Alternatively, I can set up arcological manufacturing plants in your country for both weapons and ammunition (and armor too, I suppose) for no cost. Doesn't save you money, but provides a boost to your economy, as all jobs (barring a few high security ones) would be filled by Uldarian (Uldarese? I prefer the latter, but meh) citizens.
Carbandia
08-11-2006, 12:43
Meep..Didn't know you couldn't access the forum..Hang on, will dig up the development thread from the draftroom, as it should be open for reading..
edit again: sod it..I'll just post the blessed thing (warning: long)

Chadran Arms Wyvern

Design:
It was decided to go back to the bullpup configuration with this design, as the folding stocks weren't really considered the best solution to shortening the rifle. Using this was placed a small empty space in the stock, which could be used for cleaning parts, as it could not hurt to keep those nearby.
To solve the ever present problem of cases flying into the user's face, the system from the FN-F200 was copied, ie to have the cases fall out well forward of the clip, and downwards, as well.

Construction:
Just like in the Mjölnir, titanium aluminium alloy was used for the internals, and over this was stretched the usual fiberglass reinforced polymer coating, covering virtually all metal, exept the forward most part of the barrel, to protect the user from heat buildup.
Maximum care was taken with designing the ergonomics, making the pistol grip, foregrip, and see through magazine, as comfortable as possible to the user.
The triggerguard was longer than normal, reaching the full length of the pistol grip, enabling heavy gloves to be worn without difficulty, this having been a added requirement.

Caliber:
A entirely new round was designed for this rifle, the caliber being 6.5mm, and the length 50mm, this having been, through extensive research, shown to be a extremely good choice for a intermediate round. (some might recognize the caliber, though..even if the round is entirely new)

Action:
A balanced action was picked. In short this basically involves two pistons, and two gas chambers, one piston acting as normally, while the other one counter balances it's movements, therefore greatly reducing the recoil felt by the user, in fact this would remove all but the effect of the bullet moving through the barrel from the recoil.

Rails, safeties, charging handle et all:
No rear sights were placed at all, this time around, while at the front there was a flip up post, with a foresight on it, instead a Picatinny type rail system was placed on top of the rifle, , with a choice between a red sight, 1,5X scope, or the “land warrior” type sight, all of which had a rear sight mounted on top as emergency backup. as per user's preference.
No rail was placed under the barrel, but the Carbandian standard 30mm grenade launcher could be attached under it without much trouble.
The safety and shot selector were two seperate systems this time around, the safety being a small button just behind, and above, the reciever, while the shot selector, with it's usual three settings (single, full, 3rd bursts) being right above, and forward, of the pistol grip, in the style of the H&KG-36, the controls being on both sides of the weapon, to maximize the usefullness for left hand shooters.
The magazine release was located in front of the magazine reciever, between it and the pistol grip, easily reachable with either hand, yet not so close as to interfere with the user's grip.
The charging handle's location was on the left hand side, well forward, and high, this, yet again, being in a attempt to make the rifle usable with equal comfort by both left, and right, handed users.
The muzzle brake was somewhat unusual, looking almost like a figure eight when viewed from the side, this, somewhat unusual, configuration, having proved quite effective in testing.

CAR-04 Wyvern

Type: assault rifle (bullpup configured)
caliber: 6,5X50mm
operation: gas operated, balanced system
overall length: 714mm
barrel length: 420mm
weight: 3,3kg (empty)
magazine size: 35 rounds
r.o.f: 650rpm
muzzle velocity: see below

6.5X50mm round statistics:
bullet weight: 7,3grams (not grains)
muzzle velocity: 797mps
muzzle energy(joules):2320
recoil factor: 8,5
Uldarious
09-11-2006, 00:30
Ok guys you're all doing really well in my books, it looks to me like different sections of my army will utalise different designs, but which ones I'm not sure of yet.
I'll still keep things open to see if any other people want to compete, though.
However unless anyone can throw up a better design I'll probably choose the Predator III heavy pistol as my standard sidearm.
Aside from that I still have much weighing to do to decide the different abundance of each weapon in the armed forces.
Uldarious
11-11-2006, 05:19
Okay guys, unless better things, should they exist come along this is the set up of my infantry. Five days to go till this becomes standard equipment.
Below is future the breakdown of my infantry.

Universal Sidearm: Predator III
(All snipers may use either of the two provided by Otagia. Does anyone have a longer range weapon? Otagia is good but I'd like somthing a little further ranged.)

Hydras: standard infantry:
CAR-04 Wyvern
M25 HVAR
Godslayer 60mm AM/AV

Dark Hearts: close combat and city fighting.
CAR-04 Wyvern
?I'd like an MP here?
Godslayer 60mm AM/AV

Iron Legion: Siege and heavy-infantry.
Godslayer 60mm AM/AV
M25 HVAR
Fumetsu Na Heishi armour.
Iron Knights (special forces) will have Tetsu no Kami battle armour and each Iron Lord (Captains) will have Akuma battle armour.

Flame Guards: Mass killing of hostiles, also anti-armour.
HM-320
CM-26
Godslayer 60mm AM/AV

Does anyone offer a cheaper, but still quite effective, battle armour for more universal use?
Hurtful Thoughts
11-11-2006, 06:45
This presents a 'minor' logistical problem.

Flame gaurds would be using either 6.5 x 55 (default) or 6.5 x 50 or 6 x 51 ammunition.
[But most definately NOT 6 x 50 mm -though you could try ramming one into the chamber and find out the hard way]
Dark Herts and Hydras would be using 6.5 x 50 (Not sure if Carb is offering alternate chamberings)
Hydras and Iron Legion would be using 6 x 50 mm.
You are also issuing 3 differnt body armors to your troops

I also noticed you only issued underbarrel grenade launchers to the flame guards.
Making that a special issue weapon only in your nation.
Uldarious
11-11-2006, 06:58
Hmm perhaps I did not make myself clear.
These are the different weapons that different types of soldier would be using.
For example, my Iron Legionaires most commonly are the ones who take the most punisahment, so the average soldier would be given the unpowered armour, the Captains would be givem the Akuma armour and the special forces would be given the Kami armour.

So for example, the Average Hydra would have a Wyvern but a more heavily armed troop would have the HVAR.
By the way I didn't catch the costs of the Wyvern...
Correct me if I am wrong but doesn't the HVAR come with an under barrel grenade launcher as well?

But thanks for the imput, I admit the logistics would be tough to work out, but Flame Guards were notorious for there tricky nature, it's a military stereotype.
Hurtful Thoughts
11-11-2006, 08:02
Hmm perhaps I did not make myself clear.
These are the different weapons that different types of soldier would be using.
For example, my Iron Legionaires most commonly are the ones who take the most punisahment, so the average soldier would be given the unpowered armour, the Captains would be givem the Akuma armour and the special forces would be given the Kami armour.

So for example, the Average Hydra would have a Wyvern but a more heavily armed troop would have the HVAR.
By the way I didn't catch the costs of the Wyvern...
Correct me if I am wrong but doesn't the HVAR come with an under barrel grenade launcher as well?

But thanks for the imput, I admit the logistics would be tough to work out, but Flame Guards were notorious for there tricky nature, it's a military stereotype.

Eh, I did say 'minor' as Japan had it worse during the second world war, three non-compatable cartridges of the same caliber... Not including the reduced power rounds (which brings it to 6 if using a mahinegun).
Uldarious
11-11-2006, 10:33
Hmmm, well I respect your opinion on the matter, what do you think I should do?
It seems there's a lot of 6 x 50mm bullets here, is there some version of this that could be used in all my small arms?
Greensleaves
11-11-2006, 20:02
here's one that might be useful for anti-armor for your infantry. Basically it is a lightweight backpack attached to a pair of nozzles. The pack is made of resin-coated honeycombed titanium(possible by today's means) and is meant to be filled with a substance that is highly acidic. the acid is pumped through the nozzles( one on either side of the user's torso) at high velocity towards the target. The only problem is that the only cheap way to make something acidic enough to eat through just about anything but still not eat through the pack is to use blood combined with several more common acids. And, it will dissolve the trooper if the pack is breached or the nozzles malfunction

another idea similar in scope but more dangerous. Anti armour as well and highly possible bye today's tech. a simple ammunition switch over to a new type of bullet i have designed. it uses the same principle used to detonate modern nuclear weapons on a smaller scale. the bullet itself is made up of two segments, the trigger and the core. both made of uranium or plutonium

/++++..................the trigger impacts with the core at supersonic speeds upon
----- ++................reaching the target and starts a small nuclear explosion. just
\++++................. about enough in the .45 caliber range to destroy a tank.
your soldiers however would have to carry heavy ammunition and wear lead armour inorder not to be fried by radiation if they're carrying these weapons for more then a few days.
Otagia
11-11-2006, 22:45
Problem is, acid reacts far too slowly with any sort of armor to be useful, and is rendered completely useless by rain.

As for the micronuke thing, won't work. There's a minimum mass required to create a nuclear reaction, and .45 bullets just won't do it. If I recall correctly, the minimum is somewhere around 21 kg, and give a yield of around 10 tons. A piddling 15 gram warhead won't do jack, even if it somehow manages to detonate.

Uldarious: One thing: Do NOT use 6x50mm HV rounds with anything but weapons designed to use it. Otherwise, there's a rather high chance your barrel will explode. And yes, the HVAR features an integral grenade launcher.
Hurtful Thoughts
11-11-2006, 23:44
Hmmm, well I respect your opinion on the matter, what do you think I should do?
It seems there's a lot of 6 x 50mm bullets here, is there some version of this that could be used in all my small arms?

The 6 x 51 mm cased is not compatable with the 6 x 50 mm caseless, as athe action of my rifles would snap the cartridges in half or grind off chunks of propellant which would detonate later outside of the chamber and inside some other part of the gun, such as the pistol grip...

Also, the high pressures involved, without the benefit of the cartridge to help contain and seal it, could cause blowouts amd 'cooking off' of the magazine.

Greenesleaves: Ever try mixing chemicals to make a powerful acid? And storing safer and less reactive chemicals inside the 'fuel' tank, to be mixed in the nozzle.

Final note on 6 x 50 mm caseless:
If you have any weapon not qualified to shoot it of similar caliber, then I would not recommend using it, as it would only take 1 stupid quartermaster blunder and a whole battalion of infantry could become casualties to 'friendly fire'.
Uldarious
12-11-2006, 02:23
Oh well, I guess I'll just have to deal with the logistical problems, it'll make for more nit-picking but hey, thats why I have all those clerks and Logistics personeel, it's their job to work this stuff out.
I'll also have to run more training courses for my quartermasters.
Okay guys the setting will remain as it is.
But onto another point, anyone have a nice submachine gun or machine pistol for city fighting?
Hurtful Thoughts
12-11-2006, 04:25
Oh well, I guess I'll just have to deal with the logistical problems, it'll make for more nit-picking but hey, thats why I have all those clerks and Logistics personeel, it's their job to work this stuff out.
I'll also have to run more training courses for my quartermasters.
Okay guys the setting will remain as it is.
But onto another point, anyone have a nice submachine gun or machine pistol for city fighting?

Not really, all I have is this fully automatic pistol with a take down stock, detachable front pistol grip, and 40 rd clip, though I like calling it a carbine...

Short form has 5" barrel, long has a 10"

Comes in .256 Winchester Magnum (6.5 x 32 mm), .357 S&W Mag (.38 special compatable), 9 x 19 mm, and 10 mm auto.

.257 is the standard, which gives the same power at 200 yards as a .223 NATO.
Drop is 2" at 200 yards when zeroed at 100 yards.
Uldarious
12-11-2006, 04:28
Oh well, I'll just sit back and see what others have to offer then.
*Twiddles thumbs*

Nevermind that then actually.
Other items I need.
New MBT.
Anti-air missiles and other ground-based anti-air weapons. Both vehicle-launched, I.E anti-air tanks, and structure launched, I.E SAM missile batteries, anti-air missiles would be favourable.
Hurtful Thoughts
12-11-2006, 04:58
Would you be interested in an armored vehicle with an armored turret with 360 deg traverse and +80 to -10 degree elevation, and can have itself data linked to a couple of SAMs and a radar dish (tank could carry either or both, depends how much range you want and what missle/radrar system you use).

Oh, gun is a double 35 mm autoloading revolver action cannon...
With a pair of co-axial .50 cal machine guns...
Uldarious
12-11-2006, 11:43
This does seem quite acceptable, what is the range on the cannons and the missiles respectively? Could they hit jets?
Also do you have a competative SAM?
Hurtful Thoughts
12-11-2006, 16:50
This does seem quite acceptable, what is the range on the cannons and the missiles respectively? Could they hit jets?
Also do you have a competative SAM?

Canons fire 35 x 203 mm shells to a distance of approxamately 5 to10 km -depending on elevation- at a rate of 120 ronds per minute per gun. Turrets have powered rapid traverse, and can be slewed onto a RADAR 'lock'.

AA gun cieling is 8 km vertical.

Missile/RADAR system must not exceed 30 tons if mounted on vehicle, a 10 ton trailer can be towed.

A Single RADAR equiped vehicle can be data linked to several tanks equiped soley with long range SAMs.

Missiles and RADAR not included.
And I do not offer SAMs or RADARs.
Uldarious
13-11-2006, 22:26
Fair enough, In a day or two I'll put out all my weapons orders.
But as an after thought PROHT do you offer weapons rights so my factories can pump out weapons and ammo?
Uldarious
18-11-2006, 00:18
Okay guys here is my military supplies order.
So Otagia what I need from you is the following:
Thirty-million Predator sidearms.
Twenty million HVAR M25
Twenty million Godslayers
Six-million Fumetsu Na Heishi armours.
forty thousand Tetsu no Kami powered armours.
Twenty thousand Akuma battle armours.
Five million M210 and M220 sniper rifles.

Yes I would like some of your factories made on my soil, so that I might have as many weapons available as I can. My ammunition plants can probably be constructed or modified to produce the correct ammo but that'll take a while so I'll need fair bit of that too. Probably about 500 million rounds, after that my factories should kick into gear.

PROHT
From you I need about thirty thousand of your anti-air vehicles.
Fourteen million CAR-04 Wyvern
Six million HM-320
Six million CM-26

I would also like to know if I might have the blueprints for any of your weapons to make production of them easier, if not you are also free to build factories on my soil and I'll have to buy them off you at a constant rate.
But I'd prefer to buy the blueprints as Uldarions can be quite...Xenophobic.

Ok guys you got all that?
Carbandia
18-11-2006, 00:53
ooc: Uldarious, the CAR-04 is actually my design, not Hurty's..and here's the proof (http://z13.invisionfree.com/The_NS_Draftroom/index.php?showtopic=3120&hl=)

ic: Chadran Arms is honoured to confirm your order of fourteen million of our new Wyvern assault rifle. This comes out at a total of 1.463.000.000$.

Due to other commitments (ie the fact that the army is in the middle of rearming with this very design), and limited production capabilities in house, we would be willing to offer, instead a domestic production license for the sum of 2,5m$, with the usual provisor that this is for your own use, not for export to others.
Otagia
18-11-2006, 03:57
Pale Rider Arms thanks you for your order. Your total comes to 673,600,000,000 USD, and your purchase will be shipped upon receipt of payment. This includes data to produce ammunition for all weapons purchased, and PRA assistance in constructing factories for their production.
Uldarious
18-11-2006, 05:32
OOC: So sorry Carbandia, I'll gladly accept the production rights and you have my personal guarantee that the weapons will be made for my exclusive use.

Otagia, the money will be wired to you within a week, apporval just has to go through the chains of command and so on. We thank you for your help in arming our nation.

Pleasure doing business with you all.

(I'll post a nice IC post to round this off nicely, later that is, then I'll post my next request thread for missiles and tanks.)
Uldarious
18-11-2006, 11:08
Ulashar Totaim sat at his desk, the Chairman had just approved the new weapons deals. The snowy paper in fron of him was marked with the Chairman's signature.
A dark, rich wine lay untouched in front of him. Damnit, I still have so much too do. New MBT, new APC, new AA missiles, still more aircraft to order in from Kriegzimmer, more self-propelled artilery. Aiiii, it never ends. He thought as he looked over the large stack of paper.

"At least the Wyverns are going to go into large-scale production soon," he said to himself. Somehow he didn't feel much better.
Uldarious had once been a major weapons hotspot, it was once the primary industry. Times had changed though and with it the Incorporated States had lost their edge. Now they bought weapons from other nations.
But the other nations were better equipped for the task and it only made sense that Uldarians had the best weapons.
Still, Uldarious was a giant that had yet to be tested, weapons were only a factor in war.
With a sigh Ulashar sipped his wine. Tomorrow maybe or the day after he'd initiate the second phase of weapons purchase.
Carbandia
18-11-2006, 16:05
OOC: So sorry Carbandia, I'll gladly accept the production rights and you have my personal guarantee that the weapons will be made for my exclusive use.

Otagia, the money will be wired to you within a week, apporval just has to go through the chains of command and so on. We thank you for your help in arming our nation.

Pleasure doing business with you all.

(I'll post a nice IC post to round this off nicely, later that is, then I'll post my next request thread for missiles and tanks.)
ooc: No biggie..Mistakes happen, mate. Just glad to do buisness with you.:)
Hurtful Thoughts
18-11-2006, 19:03
My competitor for the HVAR is the CM-26 Squad Automatic Rifle.

Then there is Carbandia's CAR-4 Wyvern, made by Chadran arms.

Both are built with the intention to use the new GASN standard rifle caliber.

The CM-26 was designed to fire a lot of bullets fast and capable of penetrating* Class 3 Body armor out to 600+ meters (class 4 at 300).

*Or cause sufficient Blunt Force Trauma to cause death


Eh, one lil misunderstood word...

Okay guys here is my military supplies order.
So Otagia what I need from you is the following:
Thirty-million Predator sidearms.
Twenty million HVAR M25
Twenty million Godslayers
Six-million Fumetsu Na Heishi armours.
forty thousand Tetsu no Kami powered armours.
Twenty thousand Akuma battle armours.
Five million M210 and M220 sniper rifles.

Yes I would like some of your factories made on my soil, so that I might have as many weapons available as I can. My ammunition plants can probably be constructed or modified to produce the correct ammo but that'll take a while so I'll need fair bit of that too. Probably about 500 million rounds, after that my factories should kick into gear.

PROHT
From you I need about thirty thousand of your anti-air vehicles.
Fourteen million CAR-04 Wyvern*
Six million HM-320
Six million CM-26

I would also like to know if I might have the blueprints for any of your weapons to make production of them easier, if not you are also free to build factories on my soil and I'll have to buy them off you at a constant rate.
But I'd prefer to buy the blueprints as Uldarions can be quite...Xenophobic.

Ok guys you got all that?
*Omited ICly and OOCly from Hurtian/Uldarian order, and transfered to the front desk of Chardan Arms [Carbandia]

Sure.
We'll even through in instruction manuals on how to use the HM-320 without killing yourself. (Recoil is heavy by any standard [unless you really think you can shoot a 120 mm heavy field mortar from the hip])
Uldarious
19-11-2006, 02:55
OOC: Instructions would be good Hurty.
Raven corps
19-11-2006, 03:02
Well both of you have some impressive weapons, I'll examine things further tomorrow and if no one else makes much of a post then I'll choose one of you...Or maybe take my pick and arm different sections of my army with different corporation weapons.
That said, do you have any MBT's and anti-air missiles which I might be able to buy?
Also may I buy the blueprints for any of these weapons so that I may construct them within my nation, so rearming and arming my army doesn't get too tedious.
Otherwise there'd be a lot of "I'll take another hundred thousand, and ten billion bullets".

that sounds an a weapons-tech galting style shotgun.. god bless his soul.. cant get on anymore because of that stupid forum log in bug.
Otagia
19-11-2006, 03:33
OOC: Gatling shotguns, you say? I sell those, actually. Need to restat them, as they're one of my earliest designs, but I do indeed sell them.
Hurtful Thoughts
19-11-2006, 06:29
K.

FIREARM INSTRUCTION MANUAL
HURTIAN HM-320 ROCKET/GRENADE LAUNCHER

Overview:
The HM-320 is a radical new concept of underbarrel weaponry, combining the portability of an underbarrel launcher, and the lethality of a Meduim Anti-tank Rocket Launcher.

The HM-320, however, has inherent dissadvantages/advantages compared to conventional rocket launchers and grenade launchers.

The gun has no backblast, and is therefore safe to fire from very confined areas.
This gun has a very noticeable recoil, and should be taken into consideration whenever handling this weapon. Whether it is loaded or not.
Accuracy and range are limited. And considerably less than that of purpose built specialty man-portable anti-tank weapons, but on par with most disposable LAWs and UGLs.


Design:
The HM-320 is a heavy smoothbore 40 mm weapon, with projectile locking lugs (PLL[discussed later]) in the chamber, this also serves as the extractor for spent cartridges.

The HM-320 has its own sight system offset to the left or right side, and allows for the gun to be sighted in on one gun, removed, and then placed on another without requiring another sighting in seession.

The HM-320 has a quick-detach mechanism, but due to the masive recoil it must handle, involse two locking levers, but this can still be removed with one hand, in one solid motion by pressing the two lug mounts together and pushing the assembly forward.

The barrel swings to either side for loading of long 40 mm grenades, and ejecting casings from oversized grenades. The barrel is secured in the fire position by a switch operated by the thumb behind the pistol grip of he launcher. This button must be pressed to open the action.

There is a mortar baseplate attacment point just above the thumb switch

To load and fire a 40 mm grenade:

Open chamber by pressing thumb switch and then pushing barrel to side with index finger.
Insert grenade intyo breech
Close action, no buttons need to be pressed to accomplisg this, but a loud click will be heard, one can minimize this noise by pressing the thumbswitch when closing the action, gently.
Sight must be flipped in the 'up' position to function properly, provided sght includes front (post) and rear (leaf tangent/peep) sight. Sight is graduated out to 400 yards, but it is recomended that you get within 100 yards before firing.
Shoulder gun if it is not already shouldered, lean into the expected recoil
Aim, then Pull trigger, we can't stress how important it is to aim before pulling the trigger enough.
Press thumb switch, open action, PLL automaticly ejects cartridge ven if it has not been fired.


Loading and firing oversize grenades up to 60 mm diameter:

Insert grenade into muzzle, rear end first
Twist grenade in counter-clockwise motion (from shooter's perspective) until it stops, this locks the grenade in place, arms the firing pin, arms the grenade, and keeps it from falling out during combat manuvers. Failure to do this will resualt in accomplishing nothing.
Get into a prone position, press stock tighly into shoulder, deploy bipod if available, and brace body for recoil
Aim
Pull trigger
Press thumb release, open action, PLL will eject initial propellant charge container
To remove unfired oversize grenades, twist grenade in clockwise direction and pull grenade out of breech while pressing thumb release, but do not open action, as that may damage the greande.


To Fire Grenades larger than 60 mm:

Remove grenade launcher from parent gun
Attach to a mortar baseplate or any other suitably sturdy object
(armor plate, log, wall, sidewalk, detached body armor section)
Pistl grip should be facing you and sight should be in 'extreme down' position, a 2nd front sight is used for this oberation, and is calibrated for firing grenades at angles greater than 45 degrees from horizontal.
Loading/unloading is similar to 40-60 mm oversize grenade
Aim
Pull trigger
Open action to remove spent casing
Re-attach HM-320 at end of firing session

NOTE: the gun will be used 'upside down'. This gun also uncludes a light detachable 'Universal firing plate" which is concave in shape, we strongly stress this is NOT a "knee mortar". This gun also comes with a stand-alone stock, mostly for training and sighting in. Both rear attachments connect to the mortar baseplate connector. The UFP also can serve as a heat shield for the grenade launcher when not needed.