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He's going DOWN, hard

Icovir, your being far to soft on him!


If a small nation like his had done that to me, well lets say it might be more than glass.

lol, Clandonia, you're right.

Out of 70 hydrogen bombs (6 created by me, 64 lended from The Scandinvans), I only used 4.

It's time to do a mass nuclear strike.

so this is the offshoot of another war thread?

Basically. I declared war on Emperor Nero, he ignored it because he knew he was going to get owned (no offense), and in the result Galation declared war on me by sinking two of my ships and launching a nuke to my country.

Alas, Babylon

Alas, Babylon

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And I get the feeling Galation is new to the RP scene. Correct?

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And I get the feeling Galation is new to the RP scene. Correct?

I think he is.

He's good at creating the stories, just not at logistics.

Indeed. His storylines make me want to join in, but this war could make an even better RP line if he paid attention to the logistics and the fighting it would involve.

It's over, now.

I signed the peace treaty, Drexel Hillsville ignored him, and everything now depends on Skgorria.

Since he hasn't signed the peace treaty, he's still at war with Galation. If he signs it, then the war officially ends.

Basically. I declared war on Emperor Nero, he ignored it because he knew he was going to get owned (no offense), and in the result Galation declared war on me by sinking two of my ships and launching a nuke to my country.

I created this nation to be obnoxious IC, and fully expect to get wiped off the map sooner or later.

When I read your first two posts in our war, it became clear to me that you weren't someone I ought to role-play with. Your military budget is less than the US is spending right now (including their wars), but you somehow managed to send off a fleet of over 2 million ships plus 22 million men? It is ridiculous. Then you posted some bomber attack on my nation, where you said 5% of your bombers were destroyed by AA fire before striking their targets. That is godmodding. You have no idea what AA defenses I have because I hadn't posted them yet, and for all you know I could have fighters waiting to intercept you.

Also, we agreed to a closed thread. I was expecting to fight you and The World Soviet Party, but a pile of other people seem to be participating. Not cool.

It's over, now ... everything now depends on Skgorria ... he's still at war with Galation. If he signs it, then the war officially ends.

He's getting to use the Skgorrian Strategic Rocket Forces for the first time.

He won't sign that treaty until he's nuked Galatia back into the stone age.

I created this nation to be obnoxious IC, and fully expect to get wiped off the map sooner or later.
Of course.

qWhen I read your first two posts in our war, it became clear to me that you weren't someone I ought to role-play with. Your military budget is less than the US is spending right now (including their wars), but you somehow managed to send off a fleet of over 2 million ships plus 22 million men? It is ridiculous.
It seems you continue to ignore what I say about hbow I can afford these things. I see no need to repeat myself for the fourth time.

Then you posted some bomber attack on my nation, where you said 5% of your bombers were destroyed by AA fire before striking their targets. That is godmodding. You have no idea what AA defenses I have because I hadn't posted them yet, and for all you know I could have fighters waiting to intercept you.
Well, with a nation as weak as yours' (no offense), how could you afford to destroy all of my bombers without one of them striking a target?

Also, we agreed to a closed thread. I was expecting to fight you and The World Soviet Party, but a pile of other people seem to be participating. Not cool.

I did say TG to join and that both side got 2 allies, no?

To me, it seems that anything that contradicts what you say you ignore. So there's really no point in me writing a well thought-out post on this matter (for the third time).

He's getting to use the Skgorrian Strategic Rocket Forces for the first time.

He won't sign that treaty until he's nuked Galatia back into the stone age.

lol, nuclear war owns.

It seems you continue to ignore what I say about hbow I can afford these things. I see no need to repeat myself for the fourth time.

You have not adequately explained how you can afford all the things you claim. Your economy is pretty lousy. How much money did people give you that you think you can afford to have more than 2 million naval vessels?

Well, with a nation as weak as yours' (no offense), how could you afford to destroy all of my bombers without one of them striking a target?

I didn't say I would be able to destroy your bombers. I said that it was godmodding for you to arbitrarily determine what sort of defenses I have, and how successful you were at bypassing them.

I did say TG to join and that both side got 2 allies, no?

I wanted our war to be open. When you and TWSP whined about it, I said I would be willing to fight the two of you alone. Anything else, was an abitrary decision you made without my consent.

To me, it seems that anything that contradicts what you say you ignore. So there's really no point in me writing a well thought-out post on this matter (for the third time).

If you are in fact capable of wielding the forces you claim to have at your disposal, you have done a very poor job of explaining how. Your economy is unimpressive. I have never seen a nation use a fleet of over two million ships before, so just saying someone gave you some money without provided specifics doesn't cut it.

I wanted our war to be open. When you and TWSP whined about it, I said I would be willing to fight the two of you alone. Anything else, was an abitrary decision you made without my consent.





Cocky aren't you? Icovir, would you like Wanderjarian assistance, be it Militarily or Monetarily?

Cocky aren't you? Icovir, would you like Wanderjarian assistance, be it Militarily or Monetarily?

Militarily would be nice.

You have not adequately explained how you can afford all the things you claim. Your economy is pretty lousy. How much money did people give you that you think you can afford to have more than 2 million naval vessels?
Just look in the war with Beiraq thread (called "Beiraq launches surprise attack on Icovir").

I didn't say I would be able to destroy your bombers. I said that it was godmodding for you to arbitrarily determine what sort of defenses I have, and how successful you were at bypassing them.
Contradictory. Who said all of my bombers passed your defenses? At least one passed, and that one had more than one bomb.

If you are in fact capable of wielding the forces you claim to have at your disposal, you have done a very poor job of explaining how. Your economy is unimpressive. I have never seen a nation use a fleet of over two million ships before, so just saying someone gave you some money without provided specifics doesn't cut it.
!) As I stated above, read the Beiraq war thread. Also, read the "Movement of troops into Hillsville thread" (and TG Drexel Hillsville to confirm the fact that he gave me $1 trillion)
2) This is NationStates, therefore some things cannot be compared to real life. Such as some nations having over 5 billion people.

Militarily would be nice.


Just look in the war with Beiraq thread (called "Beiraq launches surprise attack on Icovir").


Contradictory. Who said all of my bombers passed your defenses? At least one passed, and that one had more than one bomb.


!) As I stated above, read the Beiraq war thread. Also, read the "Movement of troops into Hillsville thread" (and TG Drexel Hillsville to confirm the fact that he gave me $1 trillion)
2) This is NationStates, therefore some things cannot be compared to real life. Such as some nations having over 5 billion people.


Ok. Then by all means, give me a link. :)

I'm going to have to create a new thread, the old one iss filled to the brim with OOC posts.

I'm going to have to create a new thread, the old one iss filled to the brim with OOC posts.

Ok, when you do I'll make an opening post.

OOC:
I'm finding it hard to believe how many people are complaing about Emperor Nero's role in this considering how poorly done Icovir's second post was, not even couting the equally poorly done follow ups. Just bad form.

All you did is post a ridiculously huge number of unit types, then not even bother to explain the significance of what each unit was, and then justifying using 5% of your total population, and aparently sending your ENTIRE military of thirty one million, to invade a country who I believe was under thirty Million or so at the time on some money you were sent in another thread. Any nation looking to have invaded you at the time would have had a fairly easy go at it.

You even had to have someone else point out to you that your 'gunships' were taking up a ridiculously huge portion of your military numbers.

Between Icovir and Emperor Nero the only one who should be ashamed of bad RP'ing is Icovir. Emperor Nero was fully justified in ignoring your crap. Normally I'd show some civility here and a base level of respect, but you just don't deserve it based on how you conducted yourself in that little failed thread.

OOC:
I'm finding it hard to believe how many people are complaing about Emperor Nero's role in this considering how poorly done Icovir's second post was, not even couting the equally poorly done follow ups. Just bad form.

All you did is post a ridiculously huge number of unit types, then not even bother to explain the significance of what each unit was,
Yes, I didn't go into the significance of what each unit was. I do need to learn to be more specific.

And then justifying using 5% of your total population, and aparently sending your ENTIRE military of thirty one million, to invade a country who I believe was under thirty Million or so at the time on some money you were sent in another thread. Any nation looking to have invaded you at the time would have had a fairly easy go at it.
5% is the average number for total war, which I assumed I was at. Don't believe me? Look at the stickies.

Nobody was invading me. I was open, and I didn't godmod my way out of that one. Yet nobody seemed to have noticed. Not my fault there.

Also, I said he could have allies, he just didn't want to get involved.

Added to that is the fact that all threads tie into the nations' RPing. I lost Iraq, for example, in the Beiraqi-Icovirian war. It carried on to even now far after that war is over, and I don't have Iraq.

I don't see how me sending my troops into a small nation is considered a godmod. I didn't see Germany screaming "OMG! godmod!" when 3 superpowers in WWII invaded them.

You even had to have someone else point out to you that your 'gunships' were taking up a ridiculously huge portion of your military numbers.

'm new to the whole gunship stuff.

Between Icovir and Emperor Nero the only one who should be ashamed of bad RP'ing is Icovir.
So says you. Opinion is something I can't debate.

Emperor Nero was fully justified in ignoring your crap. Normally I'd show some civility here and a base level of respect, but you just don't deserve it based on how you conducted yourself in that little failed thread.

The thread didn't fail, actually. It spawned off another war. And it's getting continued now.

I, on the other hand, won't go into disrespecting you because of your disagreeing with me on some RP.

I'm not going to reduce my number of troops because he was unfortunate enough to be a new nation. That wouldn't be fair to myself, and I could easily call that a godmod (according to your standards for one). Goodday.

Quite an interesting way to interpret my post, I merely showed the same level of respect most of you were showing Emperor Nero in the first place, but ok. Clearly I acted in haste and should have worded my post better.

Funny, I don't recall ever saying anything you did was a god mod, only poorly done and in bad form, perhaps that’s merely a difference in our definitions. Your analogy however is incorrect, Germany’s total population was larger then the militaries that invaded it, a rather defensive statement. Bringing up the number you sent was not so well done on my part anyway, however it still struck me as wasteful, excessive and just a bad idea, but ultimately your choice to send a force that size.

In regards to being an easy target for invasion at that point, was merely stating a fact, that no one took up the opportunity matters not.

The thread did in fact fail, your intent was to invade Emperor Nero, that did not happen because he chose to ignore you because he didn’t like the way you started off, as he said so himself. The fact that you and Wanderjar have decided to start a new one doesn’t change the fact that the first one crashed and burned, or that it spawned a another war thread with someone else. The original still failed, simple fact.

Fortunately I’ve noticed that you edited your post before I responded so I can better reply to it now.

I'm not going to reduce my number of troops because he was unfortunate enough to be a new nation. That wouldn't be fair to myself, and I could easily call that a godmod (according to your standards for one). Goodday.

Hmmm, once again I don’t recall saying you had to lower your numbers, you have an interesting way of interpreting, I don’t say that to be disrespectful, but given the nature of the forum style communications I should have thought more carefully about my initial post here as apparently I was not clear.

It is ‘my opinion’, as much as that’s truly worth, that Emperor Nero was justified ignoring that thread, because in ‘my opinion’ it was poorly done. I merely felt the need to say that because of all the apparent ‘bashing’ he seemed to be getting. Whether you agree with that or not is your own opinion.

Icovir: you shouldn't reduce your troops just becuase he is a small nation but rahter because it is actually impossible to use that number of troops ina foreign deployment, really at your sort of size 1.5million troops for an over seas intervention would be a stretch without some kind of well established forward operating base with a land border shared with your enemy and months of preparation to prepostion all the heavy equipment required for such an operation.

In the end i am sorry to say that both your attempt at an RP with Emperor Nero and the resulting galation war thread are perfect examples of how not to RP and your involvement has not done you any favours.

of course the question now is: Since your Emperor is behaving like a spoilt child, would he rahter have a rattle or a doll to throw out of the pram?

I want to state for the record that I did not participate in the nuclear war. My participation in the first invasion thread was limited to one OOC sentence questioning Icovir's fleet of 2 million plus ships. All I have really done IC is poke fun at Icovir's leader for letting a smaller nation push him around.

Being outnumbered doesn't really bother me, but that doesn't mean I want people godmodding against me. I don't godmod, and I expect the same in return.

I think Icovir could benefit from having a veteran player help him write up his troop deployment. If he wants to throw everything he has at me, that is fine, but whatever he sends should be within the realm of reason given his capabilities. The fact that I could lose this war doesn't bother me, but I don't want to bother trying to role-play a war that is nonsensical.

I want to state for the record that I did not participate in the nuclear war. My participation in the first invasion thread was limited to one OOC sentence questioning Icovir's fleet of 2 million plus ships. All I have really done IC is poke fun at Icovir's leader for letting a smaller nation push him around.
Yep, and I acted like a "politician" when it came time for the Casus Belli

I think Icovir could benefit from having a veteran player help him write up his troop deployment. If he wants to throw everything he has at me, that is fine, but whatever he sends should be within the realm of reason given his capabilities. The fact that I could lose this war doesn't bother me, but I don't want to bother trying to role-play a war that is nonsensical.

Yep, you're right. I just posted troop numbers. Tell me if I'm godmodding, please.