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Dephire-Transylvania vs Hataria-Axis Nova 2: Electric Boogaloo OOC Thread *INHALE*

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Axis Nova
01-11-2006, 17:11
Man, now that's a long thread title... Anyways, Hataria told me on MSN he's away till Monday, and I have control of his forces until then. For purposes of simplifying logstics, I've rotated all his forces home to Hataria and Western Hataria (this is also because I'm re-equipping them with more modern equipment; some of you probably noticed that huge order of Russian stuff).

All useful resources were stripped from the colonies before pulling back, and anything that couldn't be removed was damaged, destroyed, or booby-trapped.

Anyways, since I and Hataria are not the ones doing the invading here, I'll let you folks make the first move.

IC Thread Link: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=505453
The Transylvania
01-11-2006, 17:35
Why does that title make me laugh?

“All useful resources were stripped from the colonies before pulling back, and anything that couldn't be removed was damaged, destroyed, or booby-trapped.”

What are you saying that you and Hataria put out of his colonies before they were attacked, are you? If you are that is a god mode by using OCCly knowledge for ICly.
Axis Nova
01-11-2006, 17:41
Why does that title make me laugh?

“All useful resources were stripped from the colonies before pulling back, and anything that couldn't be removed was damaged, destroyed, or booby-trapped.”

What are you saying that you and Hataria put out of his colonies before they were attacked, are you? If you are that is a god mode by using OCCly knowledge for ICly.

I would have done this even if you guys were not declaring war. As stated, I need to re-equip Hataria's military and vastly shorten his supply lines-- after the current conflict I'm also going to work on retraining his military in more useful tactics as well.
The Transylvania
01-11-2006, 17:50
I would have done this even if you guys were not declaring war. As stated, I need to re-equip Hataria's military and vastly shorten his supply lines-- after the current conflict I'm also going to work on retraining his military in more useful tactics as well.

That is still a bullshit tactic. I’m going with those colonies like they were before you took over Hataria. I was only going to fight him at his colonies, not attack his mainland.
Axis Nova
01-11-2006, 17:58
That is still a bullshit tactic. I’m going with those colonies like they were before you took over Hataria. I was only going to fight him at his colonies, not attack his mainland.

Tough noogies for you, I guess. I'm under no obligation to overcomplicate the military situation for myself.

I should think you'd be happy, as it means you'd get a chance to occupy the colonies and try to keep Hataria out when he goes to retake them later.
The Transylvania
01-11-2006, 18:16
Tough noogies for you, I guess. I'm under no obligation to overcomplicate the military situation for myself.

I should think you'd be happy, as it means you'd get a chance to occupy the colonies and try to keep Hataria out when he goes to retake them later.

No, I want to have fight over those colonies, to show the people of those places that somebody wants to safe them from the Hatarian Empire.

I will go with his army running from them, but not all useful resources were stripped from the colonies before pulling back, and anything that couldn't be removed was damaged, destroyed, or booby-trapped. Because I have satellites in most of those areas, so I would see the strip mining and etc. So, I would have launched an attack then and there because I wanted the land to okay and not strip mined hellholes.
Axis Nova
01-11-2006, 18:21
No, I want to have fight over those colonies, to show the people of those places that somebody wants to safe them from the Hatarian Empire.

I will go with his army running from them, but not all useful resources were stripped from the colonies before pulling back, and anything that couldn't be removed was damaged, destroyed, or booby-trapped. Because I have satellites in most of those areas, so I would see the strip mining and etc. So, I would have launched an attack then and there because I wanted the land to okay and not strip mined hellholes.

By useful resources, I mean things that can quickly be loaded onto ships and aircraft, not an all-out mining spree. Eg, trucks, produce, wire, anything in warehouses, generators, that sort of thing.

Mining takes months o.x
The Transylvania
01-11-2006, 18:33
By useful resources, I mean things that can quickly be loaded onto ships and aircraft, not an all-out mining spree. Eg, trucks, produce, wire, anything in warehouses, generators, that sort of thing.

Mining takes months o.x

Well you should have said that. I thought useful resources was things need to be mined out. Okay, we will just wait for Dephire to post. Because all I have to do is land soldiers into the colonies and help the people in those colonies. Right?

I’ll work with the closest ones first, Spain and Algeria. Land a small team on Bouvet Island to plant my flag because Bouvet is nothing but cold weather with nobody living on it. Then move on to Cuba and Brazil. Lastly, it will be China, Hong Kong and Japan will become temporary colonies of the Dominion.

Then maybe aid in Dephire attack on the mainland as I do the other things, too.
Leafanistan
01-11-2006, 18:42
Hey, that title seems familiar. Oh well, I use it whenever I feel it necessary, I hope Hataria doesn't chose the 'It's 'cause I'm black isn't it?' option.

I place my 100 USD bet on Hataria and Axis Nova. Mainly because they are using my guns.
The Transylvania
01-11-2006, 18:57
I place my 100 USD bet on Hataria and Axis Nova. Mainly because they are using my guns.

That's just wrong. Me and Dephire have Hataria already beat after I land soldiers in his former colonies.
Axis Nova
01-11-2006, 19:12
That's just wrong. Me and Dephire have Hataria already beat after I land soldiers in his former colonies.

If you arn't attacking the mainland, then you'll lose in the long run as it will give me all the time I need to reform Hataria's army, air force, and navy into something modern, which will then end up being a considerable pain later.
The Transylvania
01-11-2006, 19:29
If you arn't attacking the mainland, then you'll lose in the long run as it will give me all the time I need to reform Hataria's army, air force, and navy into something modern, which will then end up being a considerable pain later.

Dehpire is attacking his mainland, I was only going to attack the colonies. That was what was originally planned. Now, I’m going to aid in Dephire’s attack, too.

And can you make Reiaa’s post disappear? It is in the IC thread and it is just TAG.
Leafanistan
01-11-2006, 19:31
That's just wrong. Me and Dephire have Hataria already beat after I land soldiers in his former colonies.

OOC: Yes but they now have ~150 million rifles, including millions of AKMs as their main armament, AK-103s, AK-104s, and Hail-37 rifles. Also they are fully stocked with 14.5mm HMGs, and helicopters out the wazoo.

Also all of his ancient T-54/55s will be upgraded to the TR-85 standard and will no longer be the tank bait they used to be.

I'm sure Axis Nova will also provide copious amounts of ERA, which I should now sell via General Resources.

Capitalism-Beam!
The Transylvania
01-11-2006, 19:45
OOC: Yes but they now have ~150 million rifles, including millions of AKMs as their main armament, AK-103s, AK-104s, and Hail-37 rifles. Also they are fully stocked with 14.5mm HMGs, and helicopters out the wazoo.

Also all of his ancient T-54/55s will be upgraded to the TR-85 standard and will no longer be the tank bait they used to be.

A bomb powers all.

An empire is not empire without its protectorates.

What the hell is up with me? I'm doing some cool sounding quotes.
Axis Nova
01-11-2006, 19:59
Oh, it gets better. If you arn't attacking, I'll be able to advance my plans to redesign and refit the Russian equipment Hataria will be using to PMT standards considerably.
Leafanistan
01-11-2006, 20:01
Oh, it gets better. If you arn't attacking, I'll be able to advance my plans to redesign and refit the Russian equipment Hataria will be using to PMT standards considerably.

Buy my upgrade system, and if anything install a Strela launching turret on the commander's turret with an aligned 12.7mm HMG to create a true anti-aircraft suite on tanks.

I'll sell that upgrade suite (2 MANPADS) mounted on a tank turret with an aligned 12.7mm MG.

Also I've made an inventory for the new weapons Axis Nova has purchased.

147,430,000 ARs that use 7.62mm Russian
10,000,000 RPK 7.62mm LMGs
20,000,000 KPV 14.5mm HMGs
2,000,000 RPG-29s
2,500,000 Strelas MANPADS
1,000,000 AT-14 Kornet ATGMs

1,000,000 Heavy Trucks
1,000,000 Medium Trucks
1,000,000 Light Trucks

10,145,000 T-90 MBTs
656,000 TR-85 LBT (Upgraded T-55s)
200,000 Tunguska-M1
500,000 BMP-3s

3,000 Mi-28 Havok Gunships
6,000 Mi-24 Hind Gunships
8,160 Mi-26 Halo Heavy Transports
Aralonia
01-11-2006, 20:07
This thread title is made of win and awesome.
The Transylvania
01-11-2006, 20:09
Oh, it gets better. If you arn't attacking, I'll be able to advance my plans to redesign and refit the Russian equipment Hataria will be using to PMT standards considerably.

Dude, we are waiting for Dephire to post. This war was his idea. We are waiting for Dephire.
Axis Nova
01-11-2006, 20:14
Dude, we are waiting for Dephire to post. This war was his idea. We are waiting for Dephire.

Ah, alright. I misread your post as saying you weren't attacking the mainland at all.
The Transylvania
01-11-2006, 20:30
Ah, alright. I misread your post as saying you weren't attacking the mainland at all.

Okay, I will only aid in his attacks on the mainland because I want to have some fun. but Dephire needs to made the first post as he is going to take on the mainland. His mission to take the head from the snake and my mission is to cut the body up into many pieces.

And you do remember that we are not using any WMDs, right? We (Me, you and Dephire) agreed to it already in that other OOC thread.
Leafanistan
01-11-2006, 20:36
Okay, I will only aid in his attacks on the mainland because I want to have some fun. but Dephire needs to made the first post as he is going to take on the mainland. His mission to take the head from the snake and my mission is to cut the body up into many pieces.

And you do remember that we are not using any WMDs, right? We (Me, you and Dephire) agreed to it already in that other OOC thread.

What about weapons of WMAs? Weapons of Mass Annoyance. The Sex Bomb, which creates an insurmountable need for sexual graftification for the next 36 hours. Or Tear Gas, or Lewisite which under sufficient humidity becomes useless and is used mainly to piss off enemy soldiers as it irritates the lungs, makes them cry, and vomit.
The Transylvania
01-11-2006, 20:43
What about weapons of WMAs? Weapons of Mass Annoyance. The Sex Bomb, which creates an insurmountable need for sexual graftification for the next 36 hours. Or Tear Gas, or Lewisite which under sufficient humidity becomes useless and is used mainly to piss off enemy soldiers as it irritates the lungs, makes them cry, and vomit.

The Sex Bomb is not wanted because well it is just wrong and a little childish, too. Tear Gas is for riots, so that’s not a WMD. It is cleared. But everything thing that is classified as an WMD will not be used lie we agreed.
Leafanistan
01-11-2006, 20:44
:( I like the idea of the Sex Bomb, and so did the US Army for a while.

Updated Weapons list.

147,430,000 ARs that use 7.62mm Russian
10,000,000 RPK 7.62mm LMGs
20,000,000 KPV 14.5mm HMGs
2,000,000 RPG-29s
12,500,000 Strelas MANPADS
1,000,000 AT-14 Kornet ATGMs

1,000,000 Heavy Trucks
1,000,000 Medium Trucks
1,000,000 Light Trucks

10,145,000 T-90 MBTs
656,000 TR-85 LBT (Upgraded T-55s)
200,000 Tunguska-M1
500,000 BMP-3s

3,000 Mi-28 Havok Gunships
10,000 Ka-50 Gunships
6,000 Mi-24 Hind Gunships
8,160 Mi-26 Halo Heavy Transports
The Aeson
01-11-2006, 20:46
So, apart from the 'Big Four' are other nations allowed to lend monetary aid, for example?

By the by, JWolf, check either the DC thread or the Clandonia Tests the Monster thread for a communique from me.
The Transylvania
01-11-2006, 20:47
So, apart from the 'Big Four' are other nations allowed to lend monetary aid, for example?

Yes, they can. I think that was agreed on, too. After the fighting gets off, the aid can be offered. But we will need another thread for that aid to both sides.
The Aeson
01-11-2006, 20:55
Yes, they can. I think that was agreed on, too. After the fighting gets off, the aid can be offered. But we will need another thread for that aid to both sides.

Not that I'm going to be able to offer much aid, as my nation is on the verge of falling apart, but I figured I'd check.
Axis Nova
01-11-2006, 21:20
Okay, I will only aid in his attacks on the mainland because I want to have some fun. but Dephire needs to made the first post as he is going to take on the mainland. His mission to take the head from the snake and my mission is to cut the body up into many pieces.

And you do remember that we are not using any WMDs, right? We (Me, you and Dephire) agreed to it already in that other OOC thread.

Yes, of course. I already have a main defense plan in mind (along with some various contingencies depending on what you guys do specifically).
The Transylvania
01-11-2006, 21:29
Yes, of course. I already have a main defense plan in mind (along with some various contingencies depending on what you guys do specifically).

Oh…okay. Well I don’t know what is up with me but I’m buying Kraven’s toys from the mafia. Yeah for me.
Wilhelmsborough
01-11-2006, 22:33
If Hataria ends up loosing a great deal of land in this war, will there a chance that the winner would want to sell it to another country?

Because I'm willing to buy.
The Transylvania
01-11-2006, 22:36
If that Hataria ends up loosing a great deal of land in this war, will there a chance that the winner would want to sell it to another country?

Because I'm willing to buy.

He is going to be loosing a lot of land (See his colonies because he is pulling out of them right before the attack happens) but I’m going to keep the land between me and Dephire.
Axis Nova
02-11-2006, 00:18
Some general explanations-- I've dispersed all 3,000-odd of Hataria's submarines throughout the region (not that you know this). They're mostly lying quietly on the bottom of the sea reporting information on things they detect with passive sonar, utilizing buoys equipped with laser communications systems and satellite transmitters extended to the surface for the purpose.

As such, your fleet was detected when it entered the region-- the submarines had orders not to attack, but simply to report on the direction of travel and speed of the fleet. Once the general area was known, Lark UAVs began quartering the region until the location was narrowed down, and it's been tracked since then.

The radar aerostat is basically an unmanned blimp at high altitude with an extremely powerful radar system on it-- if a surface or air target enters the region, I (and Hatarian forces) will know.

The EMPs have had no obvious effect since you didn't specify what, if anything you were aiming them at, and also because you don't have recon planes or anything over the area, so you really don't know what's there or not.

The effects of the cyberattacks are up to you, but keep in mind my computers have processing speeds in the terahertz range (<3 RSQL), and the intrusion programming is utilizing genetic programming to adapt to the network defenses (if any).
The Transylvania
02-11-2006, 00:53
And it was rounds, as in shells, not missiles. I don’t think laser can take out a shell.

And my post is coming up soon.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11888106&postcount=5

And I want to know how you knew it was Dephire? And what the hell are you doing now, which is against what you said? You said that you would only defend Hataria mainland and only his mainland. That means you using your cyber attack goes against what you said.
Axis Nova
02-11-2006, 02:41
And it was rounds, as in shells, not missiles. I don’t think laser can take out a shell.

And my post is coming up soon.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11888106&postcount=5

And I want to know how you knew it was Dephire? And what the hell are you doing now, which is against what you said? You said that you would only defend Hataria mainland and only his mainland. That means you using your cyber attack goes against what you said.

Last I checked, the Transylvanian Navy doesn't use giant submerged ships-- and, as the lasers have plenty of power behind them, they'll more than suffice to nail shells. There's chemical lasers in real life being tested by Israel that can stop artillery shells, and mine are much more powerful than those.

Also, in my opinion, a cannon shell really couldn't be used to contain the electronics needed for an E-Bomb due to the risk of being damaged due to the shock of firing, but ok.

The intent of the cyberattack is to disrupt communications, command, and control, and thus disorganize your forces in general. It's kind of hard to coordinate when suddenly your radios all start playing scatman.mp3 for example :)
The Transylvania
02-11-2006, 02:47
Last I checked, the Transylvanian Navy doesn't use giant submerged ships-- and, as the lasers have plenty of power behind them, they'll more than suffice to nail shells. There's chemical lasers in real life being tested by Israel that can stop artillery shells, and mine are much more powerful than those.

Also, in my opinion, a cannon shell really couldn't be used to contain the electronics needed for an E-Bomb due to the risk of being damaged due to the shock of firing, but ok.

The intent of the cyberattack is to disrupt communications, command, and control, and thus disorganize your forces in general. It's kind of hard to coordinate when suddenly your radios all start playing scatman.mp3 for example :)

Did I said it was my navy? The answer is no. You should have role-play showing a Dephirean symbol, but no you just went on and used OCCly knowledge to role-play your IC cyberattack.

Talk to Dephire about the rounds, maybe they are missiles that are fired from his cannons.

That cyberattack came from your nation, meaning you are breaking what you told me before. Can I trust you to keep your word?
Axis Nova
02-11-2006, 04:35
Did I said it was my navy? The answer is no. You should have role-play showing a Dephirean symbol, but no you just went on and used OCCly knowledge to role-play your IC cyberattack.

Talk to Dephire about the rounds, maybe they are missiles that are fired from his cannons.

That cyberattack came from your nation, meaning you are breaking what you told me before. Can I trust you to keep your word?

It just so happens the computers in question are located in the regional command center for the Hatarian detatchement-- Western Hataria is a major outpost and command center after all. Why keep all intelligence personnel back in Axis Nova?

Also, my military makes use of something called a "warbook", which is basically something like an electronicized version of the real world Jane's.

Considering the amount of time the fleet was under observation, it was easy to match noise signatures and MAD profiles to Dephiran vessels.

You couldn't get within 200 miles of any NATO power's coast with a submarine without it being noticed, what makes you think you could with something a lot less stealthy than an SSN or a boomer, and 200 of them to boot?

Also, if all your military networks are completely closed amongst themselves, then we'll assume the cyberattack fizzles.
North Tolemac
02-11-2006, 04:58
Sorry to intrude. I assume the war in Morocco and Algeria is off?
Axis Nova
02-11-2006, 05:20
Sorry to intrude. I assume the war in Morocco and Algeria is off?

If Hatarian forces were in that area, yep. Sorry if this is throwing a wrench in ongoing RPs.
The Transylvania
02-11-2006, 14:46
You couldn't get within 200 miles of any NATO power's coast with a submarine without it being noticed, what makes you think you could with something a lot less stealthy than an SSN or a boomer, and 200 of them to boot?

I don’t see any NATO power. Who are you talking about because I never saw you or Hat in the NATO.

And if you under control of Hataria, then you just post something back my message to the world. The mainland still has their TV stations and etc, right?
Axis Nova
02-11-2006, 23:29
I don’t see any NATO power. Who are you talking about because I never saw you or Hat in the NATO.

And if you under control of Hataria, then you just post something back my message to the world. The mainland still has their TV stations and etc, right?

I mean the real world NATO. I'll get to the announcement when I figure out how to respond.
The Transylvania
03-11-2006, 01:45
I mean the real world NATO. I'll get to the announcement when I figure out how to respond.

Ah and okay. Same thing with Spain, right? Just have some people walk out or something.
Axis Nova
03-11-2006, 02:19
Ah and okay. Same thing with Spain, right? Just have some people walk out or something.

The way I'm thinking of playing it is that people's attitudes will generally be "meh"... you're basically the next in line of a long series of conquerors, and while no doubt they'll be grateful for aid, they still probably won't like you much.

I don't feel like RPing active resistance in the form of insurgencies and so forth at this time since I have enough on my plate at the moment.
The Transylvania
03-11-2006, 02:23
The way I'm thinking of playing it is that people's attitudes will generally be "meh"... you're basically the next in line of a long series of conquerors, and while no doubt they'll be grateful for aid, they still probably won't like you much.

I don't feel like RPing active resistance in the form of insurgencies and so forth at this time since I have enough on my plate at the moment.

Well, they will see that the Dominion is not like the Hatarian Empire, which ran with their tails between their legs with everything that was not bolted down. They will see the Dominion rebuilt the land higher then what it was. And etc.

I’m the evil guy playing good guy. Ha!

And I don’t think insurgencies would be that good without weapons. Think about it, you said everything useful.
Axis Nova
03-11-2006, 22:23
Posted in the thread about Spain. As there was no civilian government, but, rather, a Hatarian administrative structure in it's place (that left), there really is no central control established there at the moment.
The Transylvania
03-11-2006, 22:26
Posted in the thread about Spain. As there was no civilian government, but, rather, a Hatarian administrative structure in it's place (that left), there really is no central control established there at the moment.

Okay and may I say well play with your last few message in the Aid thread. I will have a come back message to counter your last one.
Axis Nova
03-11-2006, 23:10
As it turns out, my foreign affairs ministry actually is telling the truth about Axis Nova not being under Kraven influence. Suffice it to say that having Father clandestinely parasitize so much of the central government and military was a considerable embarrasment, and my intelligence service will do their best to keep that under wraps.

Kraven's influence has effectively been purged from Axis Nova for some time.

This is somewhat irrelevant though as there is no real way to prove it in any case.
The Transylvania
03-11-2006, 23:21
That still don’t mean that you didn't help the Kraven Corporation in Old Jagada.
Axis Nova
03-11-2006, 23:31
That still don’t mean that you didn't help the Kraven Corporation in Old Jagada.

Yeah, but as that was the first time that mass driver was ever used for military purposes (and it hasn't been since, and since I didn't subsequently invade Jagada-- though that was more due to the stupidity of Xeraph and his legion of puppets than anything else), no one has any way to prove otherwise. =p

edit: Also, I most definitely did attack the capital specifically. Go find the thread :p

edit2: Also, lambasting me for not speaking using Hatarian characters really isn't fair, as a) I don't have permission from Hataria to do so and b) I wouldn't know how to RP them correctly anyways >.<

Is Dephire comatose or something? I'm enjoying the propaganda duel, but I really want to see some action here.
Dephire
03-11-2006, 23:38
Please look at my OOC comments on the IC thread, thank you.
The Transylvania
04-11-2006, 00:05
Also, I most definitely did attack the capital specifically. Go find the thread :p

And no you didn’t attack the capital. The city that you attack was Zaragosa, not the capital, Christendom. :D

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10670984&postcount=123

Also, lambasting me for not speaking using Hatarian characters really isn't fair, as a) I don't have permission from Hataria to do so and b) I wouldn't know how to RP them correctly anyways >.<

I know, but it’s the way JWolf see it.
Axis Nova
04-11-2006, 00:07
Please look at my OOC comments on the IC thread, thank you.

I don't recall you ever mentioning to me what you were sending. About all you stated was that you would use EMPs or some such.

If you mentioned it in an MSN chat, be aware that Hataria commonly drags AFK people into chats, and I'm usually afk for long periods of time. You may have noticed me not talking much.

In any case, your complaint is irrelevant, as the surveillance measures I undertook would be more than sufficient to find your fleet.

Seriously, a fleet of submarines? With guns? Come on, now. o_x

Just because you're underwater doesn't mean no one can find you.

Also, another thing-- you cannot jam radar from underwater. Water absorbs radio waves.

My attack stands.
The Transylvania
04-11-2006, 00:54
Seriously, a fleet of submarines? With guns? Come on, now. o_x

No worst then your airships, AN.

Dephire, just role-play them popping back up and fire off EMP at his airships. Then add some lethal rounds into the mix. Those airships can be took out.
Axis Nova
04-11-2006, 01:08
No worst then your airships, AN.

Dephire, just role-play them popping back up and fire off EMP at his airships. Then add some lethal rounds into the mix. Those airships can be took out.

That wasn't what I meant. Submarines with guns are certainly possible, but the problem is, the drag from water moving across them will make plenty of noise, which makes them easy to track. The guns obviously can't be retractable, as Dephire fired as soon as he surfaced.

Any existing antisubmarine weapon can kill a sub with only one or two hits; the 80cm torps my fleet dropped are designed to injure and kill even SDs, so any sub hit by them will be soon finding itself on the bottom.

The 80cms consist of two stages, a cruise stage and a supercavitation stage for the final attack run. Given the close range, most of the torps will simply have ejected their cruise stage and immediately gone to supercav mode, making them basically impossible to evade except by luck.

Also, do you really think that I would be foolish enough not to shield my equipment against EMPs? =p
The Transylvania
04-11-2006, 01:12
Also, do you really think that I would be foolish enough not to shield my equipment against EMPs? =p

Well use lethal rounds then, Dephire. And blow them to Hell and back. Take out his airship fleet and he can't help anymore. Ha! :p
Axis Nova
04-11-2006, 01:26
Assuming any Dephiran vessels survive to surface, we'll see. The airships are a considerable distance above, after all.
The Transylvania
04-11-2006, 01:38
We will see then. And I got a lone man walking towards the city, waving a white flag. Going to do anything?
Axis Nova
05-11-2006, 20:52
Waiting for Hataria to handle that since he's back now. Meanwhile, Dephire, I believe you have a significant number of losses to take...
Dephire
05-11-2006, 21:05
What you fail to realise is that I never had said any specifics as to what is contained in my fleet.

For one, they are not all submarines. There are at least fifty Aegis Cruisers and other Anti-Air ships both underwater and above.

Two, just because those ships are underwater, doesn't restrict them to not being able to hold a gun.

Three, your airship attacks are irrelevant because if I ever felt in danger, then my anti-air ships would of fired upon your minute plane even before it was able to scout about.

Thank you.:p
Axis Nova
06-11-2006, 00:06
What you fail to realise is that I never had said any specifics as to what is contained in my fleet.

For one, they are not all submarines. There are at least fifty Aegis Cruisers and other Anti-Air ships both underwater and above.

Two, just because those ships are underwater, doesn't restrict them to not being able to hold a gun.

Three, your airship attacks are irrelevant because if I ever felt in danger, then my anti-air ships would of fired upon your minute plane even before it was able to scout about.

Thank you.:p

Nice try, smart aleck, but you specifically said they were ALL underwater. In addition, there's no way you'd be able to detect the Lark-- it not only has a very low infrared signature, but thanks to it's onboard cold plasma stealth systems, it actually absorbs radar waves directed at it.


Two hundred ships slowly surfaced one at a time. They each aimed at the coast, and at the cities much farther in. Then, they unleashed a volley of Stonehenge Electro-Magnetic Pulse rounds.


In addition, I never said underwater ships couldn't have guns, just that doing so would basically remove the point of being beneath the water for stealthy reasons.

Finally, you do not get to go back in time after I get a post and respond to something I've done before I've done it. This is called "God Modding".

In addition: you do know periscopes show up on radar, right?
Dephire
06-11-2006, 00:49
I would consider it godmoding for attacking an entire fleet like I wouldn't be able to have avoided the thing all together...
Dephire
06-11-2006, 00:51
Also, I must say that I never stated that all of my ships were underwater. All that was said was that two hundred ships surfaced. This does not include if there were ships already on the surface. So I would like you to kindly read and actually have some good evidence to back you up before you make a complete fool out of yourself.
The Transylvania
06-11-2006, 01:31
Okay, both of y’all just chill. This is bloody game, no need to flame or get close to flaming. *Looks at AN’s comment about Dephire being a smart aleck*

AN, your post a little one-sided. That recon UAV would have been seen by Dephire’s fleet before it was evening on them. Hell, any sign of your airship fleet, which appeared out of nowhere and above his fleet, would had made him attack those thing not the ships.

Now, we are trying to show and teach Hataria how to role-play and your (AN) post is too much like a god mode with your fleet tracking down Dephire’s fleet and hovering over it without Dephire attacking it..
Dephire
06-11-2006, 01:51
-Takes a chill pill.-

"Yes Lord Marshal."

-Calms down.-

"Now then, lets get back to Rping...err..where to begin though?"
The Transylvania
06-11-2006, 01:55
Waiting for Hataria to handle that since he's back now.

I would like you do it because I have a feeling that Hat is going to say that the people were armed with assault rifles and have tanks and etc. And say that he still has soldiers in those lands, in which is a god mode because you said every one of them were gone from those lands.
Dephire
06-11-2006, 01:57
Hmm. So then, how's everyone?
The Transylvania
06-11-2006, 01:59
-Takes a chill pill.-

"Yes Lord Marshal."

-Calms down.-

"Now then, lets get back to Rping...err..where to begin though?"

I don’t know, but I know I have a guy that has been on a dock for two RL days without an answer from anybody.
Dephire
06-11-2006, 02:02
-chuckles-
I was thinking of making a post that dipicted something that I've wanted to say.
Such as a new breed of super-soldiers.

Basically, if you have played Kingdom Hearts II, they look like members of Organization XIII...only..well...they aren't OXIII...
The Transylvania
06-11-2006, 02:06
-chuckles-
I was thinking of making a post that dipicted something that I've wanted to say.
Such as a new breed of super-soldiers.

Basically, if you have played Kingdom Hearts II, they look like members of Organization XIII...only..well...they aren't OXIII...

Never play the game. Sorry. I have no idea what they look like.
Dephire
06-11-2006, 02:08
Picture men with long black cloaks and a die-katana.
Dephire
06-11-2006, 02:13
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v614/LordBhall/OrganizationXIII.jpg
The Transylvania
06-11-2006, 02:13
Picture men with long black cloaks and a die-katana.

Ah, I got you.
Dephire
06-11-2006, 02:14
Ah, I got you.

I just now posted a picture. -chuckles-
The Transylvania
06-11-2006, 02:24
I just now posted a picture. -chuckles-

And I searched on Wiki about them, too.
Dephire
06-11-2006, 02:39
"The More you know."

~ABC

lol.

Anyways, back to the basics...I guess we are now in a pickle until someone starts talking. I'm not going to post any damage because that entire airstrike was complete bullshit.
Axis Nova
06-11-2006, 02:39
Okay, both of y’all just chill. This is bloody game, no need to flame or get close to flaming. *Looks at AN’s comment about Dephire being a smart aleck*

AN, your post a little one-sided. That recon UAV would have been seen by Dephire’s fleet before it was evening on them. Hell, any sign of your airship fleet, which appeared out of nowhere and above his fleet, would had made him attack those thing not the ships.

Now, we are trying to show and teach Hataria how to role-play and your (AN) post is too much like a god mode with your fleet tracking down Dephire’s fleet and hovering over it without Dephire attacking it..

OLED camo-- you won't see it with the naked eye unless it's literally right in front of the camera lense, and I already covered the other stealth measures.

And what did you honestly expect? That I'd just let Dephire waltz his fleet deep into territorial waters without so much as a by your leave?

If you did not want me to assume Dephire didn't have a fleet of 200 ships all being submarines, he should have made this more clear in his initial post and not magically tried to add ships later.
Dephire
06-11-2006, 02:46
-Glares at screen.-

Umm. It is in my first post on the thread.

"We have over four hundred ships..."

That's why I asked you to read the post.
Axis Nova
06-11-2006, 02:50
-Glares at screen.-

Umm. It is in my first post on the thread.

"We have over four hundred ships..."

That's why I asked you to read the post.

Actually, I read a bit more than that, though I will concede the point that you had more ships (but nothing else as you just destroyed your own argument about remaining undetected if you hauled in a surface fleet; however, the airships would have a bit more distance in that case so I will edit that post a bit).


Just out of curiosity, how is it these sub things are able to fire shells 200 miles in any case? That's long range even for SD guns.

Also, you WILL delete your most recent post in the thread. That type of god moding is not acceptable.
Dephire
06-11-2006, 03:19
The undetectable part was only referring to the ships that are underwater. Not about the others.

I'll edit accordingly.
The Transylvania
06-11-2006, 19:18
Dephire, all of Hataria’s former colonies don’t have any Hatarian soldiers in them as AN told me. Meaning you will not have to use any soldiers to take them. I gave an order to Vega, see my first post in the IC thread, to get really to move those soldiers out of my land.

I will handle the colonies because I‘m trying to look like the good guy in this war.
Clandonia Prime
06-11-2006, 19:21
I'm prepared to assault Algeria to insure that Greater Morocco can never pose a threat to Clandonian shipping in the Med or my forces in Libya.
The Transylvania
06-11-2006, 19:36
I'm prepared to assault Algeria to insure that Greater Morocco can never pose a threat to Clandonian shipping in the Med or my forces in Libya.

You don’t have to do that. Plus, this Algeria is not the same as the one in the Africa that you role-play in.
Clandonia Prime
06-11-2006, 19:37
You don’t have to do that. Plus, this Algeria is not the same as the one in your Africa.

I'm doing it because I love you and the Dominion so much, plus we don't want a power vacumn fueled by radical Islamic governments....

:D and so the Clandonian warmachine goes again...
The Transylvania
06-11-2006, 19:42
I'm doing it because I love you and the Dominion so much, plus we don't want a power vacumn fueled by radical Islamic governments....

:D and so the Clandonian warmachine goes again...

And you forgot one thing, you still caged by me. So, you can’t do a thing. And that thread is messing with a Closed Thread, meaning I’m getting close to ignoring it because I don‘t want Hat calling ‘Dogpile‘ again.
Clandonia Prime
06-11-2006, 19:44
And you forgot one thing, you still caged by me. So, you can’t do a thing. And that thread is messing with a Closed Thread, meaning I’m getting close to ignoring it because I don‘t what Hat calling ‘Dogpile‘ again.

Why not Hatarias not even there in Algeria, or will you be able to hold up a multi frontal war? I think not, let me take out the weak one I wont use too many nasty things.
The Transylvania
06-11-2006, 19:50
Why not Hatarias not even there in Algeria, or will you be able to hold up a multi frontal war? I think not, let me take out the weak one I wont use too many nasty things.

But Hat will need to role-play the hand over to GM. Right now, it is a one-sided role-play. It is pissing me off that GM wants to pull this shit after the closed thread was started a week ago. If he was going to do anything, he should have done it a week ago!

And the Dominion can handle a two front war. And do with style, too.
Clandonia Prime
06-11-2006, 19:52
Well other nations are sending military forces to help him, I can handle proberly all of them myself if I bring out the orbital stuff it will be a doddle.
The Transylvania
06-11-2006, 19:57
Well other nations are sending military forces to help him, I can handle proberly all of them myself if I bring out the orbital stuff it will be a doddle.

No, no, no. The thread is interfering with a Closed Thread, in which is a big no-no.
Clandonia Prime
06-11-2006, 19:58
No, no, no. The thread is interfering with a Closed Thread, in which is a big no-no.

It never said closed, and you can let GM just take control of that land. I can have forces touching down in 48 hours.
The Transylvania
06-11-2006, 20:02
It never said closed, and you can let GM just take control of that land. I can have forces touching down in 48 hours.

This thread is a closed one and GM’s thread is interfering with it. Got it, now?
Axis Nova
06-11-2006, 20:23
The closed part only refers to the matters directly related to your invasion of Hataria. The now-unoccupied colonies are up for grabs... for the moment.

Also, Dephire, slight timing problem there: the EMP attack and so forth occured after the torpedo attacks, so there arn't any torpedoes or cruise missiles still headed towards the Los Mexican fleet.

White flags will suffice to surrender; after all, that recon UAV is still orbiting, and the cameras will pick it up.

I just got Neverwinter Nights 2, so I'll post later since I'm about to be busy for the next 6 to 8 hours :p
Clandonia Prime
06-11-2006, 20:29
Good, if the Algerian thread is open I'm going to stop Morocco gaining it.
The Transylvania
06-11-2006, 20:32
The closed part only refers to the matters directly related to your invasion of Hataria. The now-unoccupied colonies are up for grabs... for the moment

Well, somebody will have to role-play the hand over as you were doing with me and Spain. And GM is doing a one-sided rp.

The only option would be to destroy them before they fire."

This is being ignore. You are not going to attack my cannons. If you do, you will be breaking one of the thing you said “That you are only going defend Hat.”
Clandonia Prime
06-11-2006, 20:55
Trans, I will control it under the Dominion by force if the invaders don't withdraw. I promise not to nuke anyone.
Carbandia
06-11-2006, 20:57
Transylvania, I, personally, think you should report that thread (the Morroccan one) to the mod team..Their actions (you as well Clandonia) is way out of line..This is supposed to be a closed rp, after all.
The Transylvania
06-11-2006, 20:58
Trans, I will control it under the Dominion by force if the invaders don't withdraw. I promise not to nuke anyone.

I got it handle because my claim is way before his is. I’m going to blow the hell out of them because GM didn’t think and do some research before he made the thread.
Clandonia Prime
06-11-2006, 20:59
Oh oh oh oh oh can't I do that? I could use my shiney orbital thingys.
The Transylvania
06-11-2006, 21:03
Transylvania, I, personally, think you should report that thread (the Morroccan one) to the mod team..Their actions (you as well Clandonia) is way out of line..This is supposed to be a closed rp, after all.

I’m thinking about doing that, but I don’t think mods handle rps.
Clandonia Prime
06-11-2006, 21:05
Transylvania, I, personally, think you should report that thread (the Morroccan one) to the mod team..Their actions (you as well Clandonia) is way out of line..This is supposed to be a closed rp, after all.

What did I do wrong?
The Aeson
06-11-2006, 21:07
What did I do wrong?

Participating in a closed RP?
Carbandia
06-11-2006, 21:07
What did I do wrong?
Reply to him at all? Seriosly, last time I knew neither of you were among the four participants in this rp..(and I know I am not..just felt like adding my 2c, after having watched this from the start)
Axis Nova
06-11-2006, 21:07
Well, somebody will have to role-play the hand over as you were doing with me and Spain. And GM is doing a one-sided rp.



This is being ignore. You are not going to attack my cannons. If you do, you will be breaking one of the thing you said “That you are only going defend Hat.”

Silly person, the conference was started before this Hatarian thing ever did. And no one said I was going to attack them-- I just said it would be wise to engage them before they fire since shooting down gun shells is problematic for most people. :)
Clandonia Prime
06-11-2006, 21:08
No one told me it was closed!
The Aeson
06-11-2006, 21:10
No one told me it was closed!

Apart from the whole Transylvania telling GM that in like the first reply to the thread?
The Transylvania
06-11-2006, 21:15
Silly person, the conference was started before this Hatarian thing ever did. And no one said I was going to attack them-- I just said it would be wise to engage them before they fire since shooting down gun shells is problematic for most people. :)

I will not being using them because of the no WMD use in this thread. I have the big dogs, I think level five and uppers. And thank you for clearing it for me.
The Transylvania
06-11-2006, 21:53
Okay, Frisbeeteria told me to ignore GM and his thread. So, that is what I’m going to do. I would like AN, Hat, Dephire and the rest to ignore too because GM didn’t do research on what Hat’s forces did to the land before GM made his thread.
Axis Nova
06-11-2006, 23:05
Okay, Frisbeeteria told me to ignore GM and his thread. So, that is what I’m going to do. I would like AN, Hat, Dephire and the rest to ignore too because GM didn’t do research on what Hat’s forces did to the land before GM made his thread.

The stuff Hataria's forces did before they left falls under the category of "inconvenience" rather than "catastrophe". =p
Clandonia Prime
06-11-2006, 23:08
You know I wouldn't mind being in this war if I had an oppenent equal to me in military and economic strenghts.
The Transylvania
06-11-2006, 23:28
You know I wouldn't mind being in this war if I had an oppenent equal to me in military and economic strenghts.

What war? This one is closed.

@AN: It still does not mean that GM could have done some research. And started his thread a week ago. And not use stuff that happened in thread that was restarted. *Inhales*
Clandonia Prime
06-11-2006, 23:30
What war? This one is closed.

@AN: It still does not mean that GM could have done some research. And started his thread a week ago. And not use stuff that happened in thread that was restarted. *Inhales*

I know, I'm saying if Axis Nova has someone in his alliance that is the same size as me or something.
The Transylvania
06-11-2006, 23:32
I know, I'm saying if Axis Nova has someone in his alliance that is the same size as me or something.

Ah, well that is okay.
Dephire
06-11-2006, 23:32
...I see no point in this arguement. Hell, what the heck are you talking about CP?
Clandonia Prime
06-11-2006, 23:34
...I see no point in this arguement. Hell, what the heck are you talking about CP?

I was offering my help in the war on our side fool, perhaps if AN has an ally similar in size and strenghts to me.
The Transylvania
06-11-2006, 23:35
...I see no point in this arguement. Hell, what the heck are you talking about CP?

He wants a war, but has nobody to fight with.

And Dephire, did you see this post? http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11909890&postcount=78

And CP, don’t call him a fool. *Take out rolled up newspaper and hits CP on the nose*
Kologk
06-11-2006, 23:37
He wants a war, but has nobody to fight with.

And Dephire, did you see this post? http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11909890&postcount=78

And CP, don’t call him a fool. *Take out rolled up newspaper and hits CP on the nose*

CP and I could have a scrap. Of course, what with us both being DC members, it could be awkward...
Clandonia Prime
06-11-2006, 23:39
CP and I could have a scrap. Of course, what with us both being DC members, it could be awkward...

Yes that would be pointless.
The Transylvania
06-11-2006, 23:40
CP and I could have a scrap. Of course, what with us both being DC members, it could be awkward...

Yeah, that would be a little awkward.
The Transylvania
07-11-2006, 00:18
As one of the people in the closed RP and the person who posted the original closed thread in the first place, only the matters directly related to the invasion of Hataria are closed. The colonies are up for grabs, and the closedness of the Hatarian invasion are not meant as a shield to protect Transylvania and Dephire from any interference from random people.

If you are going to be that way, I will link a post that out plays that the colonies are open for grabs. http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11888416&postcount=6 Just read what I have in it. That over rules the openness of the colonies. If GM did his homework, he would have known that.
Dephire
07-11-2006, 02:22
Yes I did read that post, Transylvania. Only thing is that my character, Skragg, has yet been informed of this. He still has high hopes of being able to take over Spain by force.

I shall bend the story accordingly.
Greater Morocco
07-11-2006, 03:09
I don't see how I have interfered with your closed war. I have made zero posts in your thread. Hataria and I were having border skirmishes long before your closed thread ever existed (all initiated by Hataria). Practically every post I've made in this forum is related to my fight with Hataria. I don't feel obligated to stop what I have been doing all this time just because Hataria decided to participate in another closed thread. It is stupid to say you have the exclusive right to take over Hataria's land when I've been fighting him so long (every war initiated by Hataria without ever consulting me first by telegram).

Since the territory I am targeting has been abandoned, there is nobody there for me to interfere with. As Axis Nova has said, those abandoned territories are there for the taking. They are unclaimed and aren't impacting your war at all. They are blank spots on the map with no names associated with them. I am taking the one territory by my nation, where I have extensive history fighting him. There are plenty more territories for you to fight over.

My thread is open. If you have an IC reason to object to me moving into an unclaimed territory to restore order & liberate it (which only Hataria does in my opinion), then feel free to participate, but stop spamming my thread with your OOC posts.
Dephire
07-11-2006, 03:13
I think what they were trying to get at was that you were posting in this thread even if it is closed to those that are participating in the war.
The Transylvania
07-11-2006, 03:24
I don't see how I have interfered with your closed war. I have made zero posts in your thread. Hataria and I were having border skirmishes long before your closed thread ever existed (all initiated by Hataria). Practically every post I've made in this forum is related to my fight with Hataria. I don't feel obligated to stop what I have been doing all this time just because Hataria decided to participate in another closed thread. It is stupid to say you have the exclusive right to take over Hataria's land when I've been fighting him so long (every war initiated by Hataria without ever consulting me first by telegram).

Since the territory I am targeting has been abandoned, there is nobody there for me to interfere with. As Axis Nova has said, those abandoned territories are there for the taking. They are unclaimed and aren't impacting your war at all. They are blank spots on the map with no names associated with them. I am taking the one territory by my nation, where I have extensive history fighting him. There are plenty more territories for you to fight over.

My thread is open. If you have an IC reason to object to me moving into an unclaimed territory to restore order & liberate it (which only Hataria does in my opinion), then feel free to participate, but stop spamming my thread with your OOC posts.

If you read this post (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11888416&postcount=6), you would know that “The forces of the Dominion will move into the former colonies of the Hatarian Empire and aid the people left to defend for themselves. We will rebuilt things that the Hatarian Empire destroy. We will give food and water to those people. We will save the people of Cuba, Brazil, the Bouvet Island, Algeria, China, Hong Kong, Spain, and Japan.”

Meaning I have claim over them and I know I don’t have soldiers on the land because I’m dealing with two things at the same time. Your thread is a big no-no because you just invade Dominion land. Do your research next time.
Dephire
07-11-2006, 03:26
Out of all of those colonies, I only want to have claim of Spain...lol.
Greater Morocco
07-11-2006, 03:29
Maybe if you did YOUR research, you would know I had been fighting Hataria in Algeria.

Also, you didn't claim to own Algeria. You said you were going to send them food and water, which you haven't. Essentially, you have been relieved of that burden. You can thank me later.

The person charged with role-playing Algeria, Axis Nova, has already said they are not contesting me moving in.
The Transylvania
07-11-2006, 03:36
Maybe if you did YOUR research, you would know I had been fighting Hataria in Algeria.

Also, you didn't claim to own Algeria. You said you were going to send them food and water, which you haven't. Essentially, you have been relieved of that burden. You can thank me later.

The person charged with role-playing Algeria, Axis Nova, has already said they are not contesting me moving in.

Dude, you did have a person that was not role-play with you slowly. I would have moved on that land already because those ships I have heading toward Spain are still in their last area or close to it. Our thread was going slowly like I have already said.

Read this again. “The forces of the Dominion will move into the former colonies of the Hatarian Empire and aid the people left to defend for themselves.” That means I was moving in.

Like I told, this thread has been up for a fucking week and you want to pull this shit now. You should have started a week ago and not now. You’re on my damn nerves, you’re on my damn nerves.

I have already spend money on things to help the people of Algeria. 2.5 billion already.

And you know what, prepare to be kicked out Algeria. I gave you 24 hours in IC post in your thread to leave the land. Bye, bye.
Dephire
07-11-2006, 03:38
Hey Trans, considering that Algeria is just a territory and not the Hatarian Mainland, would it violate the 'Closed Thread' if you took care of GM?
Greater Morocco
07-11-2006, 03:44
Dude, you did have a person that was not role-play with you slowly. I would have moved on that land already because those ships I have heading toward are still in their last area. Our thread was going slowly like I have already said.

Read this again. “The forces of the Dominion will move into the former colonies of the Hatarian Empire and aid the people left to defend for themselves.” That means I was moving in.

Like I told, this thread has been up for a fucking week and you want to pull this shit now. You should have started a week ago and not now. You’re on my damn nerves, you’re on my damn nerves.

I have already spend money on things to help the people of Algeria. 2.5 billion already.

And you know what, prepare to be kicked out Algeria. I gave you 24 hours in IC post in your thread to leave the land. Bye, bye.


I made it pretty clear at the conclusion of the last thread that I wanted to continue fighting Hataria. After all, we were about to take his territory fair and square.

Trust me, you get on my nerves every bit as much as I get on yours. I was practically pulling my hair out having to explain to you three times how a friggin television works.
Dephire
07-11-2006, 03:47
Greater Morocco, might I warn you not to press any hostilities towards Transylvania.
The Transylvania
07-11-2006, 03:58
Hey Trans, considering that Algeria is just a territory and not the Hatarian Mainland, would it violate the 'Closed Thread' if you took care of GM?

You can help me. Maybe your soldiers, the ones that were going to invade Spain, can help me there.

I made it pretty clear at the conclusion of the last thread that I wanted to continue fighting Hataria. After all, we were about to take his territory fair and square.

I know you were getting close until Hat pull a freak out moment. I was in a mid-air battle when he ingored the thread.

Trust me, you get on my nerves every bit as much as I get on yours. I was practically pulling my hair out having to explain to you three times how a friggin television works.

I don’t give a damn how a F***ING TV works. The people will still see you are invader because of your army size. If you want to be the saviors, you would have send in a hundred soldiers with trucks with food and water. But no, you did not do that.

Now, you are my enemy. And I know AMF will be on my side, if you call him. I forgot who help you with Hat. Can you help me out with thier names?

And there is an IC post waiting for you in your thread.
Dephire
07-11-2006, 04:02
-Laughs on the floor.-

Due to Greater Morocco becoming an enemy of Transylvania thus makes him an enemy of Dephire and the ADAN. It was nice knowing ya!

Also, Kraven is thinking about sending the Corporate Front to my doorstep! PAH! Foolish CA people, I guess a massive IGNORE is in order.
The Transylvania
07-11-2006, 04:12
Also, Kraven is thinking about sending the Corporate Front to my doorstep! PAH! Foolish CA people, I guess a massive IGNORE is in order.

Why is Kraven thinking about sending the Corporate Front to your doorstep? He is already in a two-front war and I have good feeling that AMF is going to strike his new homeland.
Dephire
07-11-2006, 04:14
Err...to my doorstep, not yours. Anyways, he thinks I'm an annoying person, or so Hataria tells me. Oh well, Kraven will be defeated with the massive multi-front alliance standing up against him.
The Transylvania
07-11-2006, 04:20
Err...to my doorstep, not yours. Anyways, he thinks I'm an annoying person, or so Hataria tells me. Oh well, Kraven will be defeated with the massive multi-front alliance standing up against him.

Edited, I just copied and pasted it. And ah, well that makes no sense. Kraven has never does things like that. Well, whatever. Link me to the thread, if it happens. And I use those lovely cannons of yours on his war fleet.
Hataria
07-11-2006, 04:21
Should we tell GM's Mom and dad that their Kid's Nation was Destroyed because he was Stupid?
Dephire
07-11-2006, 04:30
Hataria, I would hope that you aren't going back to flaming people again...
The Transylvania
07-11-2006, 04:35
Should we tell GM's Mom and dad that their Kid's Nation was Destroyed because he was Stupid?

Hahahahahahaha!!! Good one, Hat, good one! Now, please do something with my pilot on the dock in Spain. Or can I just do whatever I want?
Axis Nova
07-11-2006, 04:38
-Laughs on the floor.-

Due to Greater Morocco becoming an enemy of Transylvania thus makes him an enemy of Dephire and the ADAN. It was nice knowing ya!

Also, Kraven is thinking about sending the Corporate Front to my doorstep! PAH! Foolish CA people, I guess a massive IGNORE is in order.

What possible reason is there to ignore someone attacking you if they're not doing it in a god modish way?

I realize the timing may be a little inconvenient for you, but that's just bad luck :)
Dephire
07-11-2006, 04:42
No, it's the entire fact that Kraven and his CA cronies are far too outstretched for even another operation. It even pisses me off that they go and flame me to death when the accusations charged against me were committed by themselves as well. So yes, I have rightful reason to ignore them. Hell, Kraven doesn't even have a true economy. Yes, he may say that he has all of these 'lands', but with these 'lands' his economy is pathetic.:rolleyes:
The Transylvania
07-11-2006, 04:46
And that Kraven is already fighting in two areas at the same time. Plus, AMF is going to attack his new homeland or that is what I think it going to happen.
Dephire
07-11-2006, 04:49
Ah, screw it. Just ask AMF nicely to pull out a full-blown Gholgoth operation against the fool. All I ask is that I get to put the head on my mantle...
The Transylvania
07-11-2006, 04:52
LOL! He told us that he didn’t need any help in the matter.
Dephire
07-11-2006, 04:53
Then I will pull a "Liberation" front on all of his colonies...lol.

Think of it.

Fifteen thousand Godsend soldiers...oh the power!
Axis Nova
07-11-2006, 07:22
Then I will pull a "Liberation" front on all of his colonies...lol.

Think of it.

Fifteen thousand Godsend soldiers...oh the power!

I know this may be a hard thing to hear, but 15,000 idiots waving swords will be cut down easily by modern weapons no matter how hard they've trained or how high quality their swords are.

The Japanese learned this during WWII in all their failed banzai charges.
Ackistan
07-11-2006, 11:54
I just want to clarify the situation... Greater Morocco and Transylvania both want to role-play helping an unoccupied territory (Algeria) get back on its feet after being abandoned by Hataria. Both nations have legitimate reason to want to interact with Algeria. Greater Morocco was involved in 3 or 4 threads dealing with Algeria. Transylvania is involved in a thread with the territory’s former owner. Both nations claim to have the same goal: to help Algeria recover. If that situation occurred in real life, the two of them would likely be cooperating to help Algeria.

Instead, the two of them had an OOC argument. Transylvania loses that argument (in my opinion at least), so Transylvania decides to play the "Oh ya? My country is bigger than yours” card, and attacks Greater Morocco.

That is lame.

At any rate, I’ve helped Greater Morocco in the past by sending him weapons. I’ll be helping them again if this fight goes on. I will probably wait a bit to see what happens. Should I join in, I want to remind you now that war is MT and there are no restrictions on WMD use.
The Transylvania
07-11-2006, 14:51
I just want to clarify the situation... Greater Morocco and Transylvania both want to role-play helping an unoccupied territory (Algeria) get back on its feet after being abandoned by Hataria. Both nations have legitimate reason to want to interact with Algeria. Greater Morocco was involved in 3 or 4 threads dealing with Algeria. Transylvania is involved in a thread with the territory’s former owner. Both nations claim to have the same goal: to help Algeria recover. If that situation occurred in real life, the two of them would likely be cooperating to help Algeria.

I would have done that, but GM didn’t answer me ICly after I posted my IC message to him. If he did with a message that he would like to help me or the other way around, I would have been game.

Instead, the two of them had an OOC argument. Transylvania loses that argument (in my opinion at least), so Transylvania decides to play the "Oh ya? My country is bigger than yours” card, and attacks Greater Morocco.

Really I pulled the “GM is the invader” card and issued my ICly message to him. Warning he had 24 hours to leave. But he didn’t do it and the war is on.

At any rate, I’ve helped Greater Morocco in the past by sending him weapons. I’ll be helping them again if this fight goes on. I will probably wait a bit to see what happens. Should I join in, I want to remind you now that war is MT and there are no restrictions on WMD use.

You will just be on the Count’s bad side again. Welcome back to that side.
Clandonia Prime
07-11-2006, 16:59
If Ackistan even as much fires blank at my troops that are now hurrying into Algeria to stop Morocco then it will be war....

Clandonian troops are now on the shores of Algeria, if Morocco dosn't surrender I will start bombing his homeland.

Dephire, is that really true if it is we must act now rather than later. Fighting Kraven sounds fun I can be as brutal as I want.
Dephire
07-11-2006, 19:19
Also, Axis Nova...you really don't know what the Godsend are, do you? Once again you have just humiliated yourself.

Anyways, I'm thinking of just sending my army into Algeria. Fourteen million soldiers sure does beat one million or so anyday. Ah well. This is all just OOC talk.
Icovir
07-11-2006, 19:47
So let me just clarify: This war is for who's going to take control of Hatarian colonies, correct?
The Transylvania
07-11-2006, 20:02
So let me just clarify: This war is for who's going to take control of Hatarian colonies, correct?

From what Dehpire said that Clint said, it is true. *Looks back at what I just wrote* Oh...what the Hell did I just say? :)
Axis Nova
07-11-2006, 21:28
Also, Axis Nova...you really don't know what the Godsend are, do you? Once again you have just humiliated yourself.

Anyways, I'm thinking of just sending my army into Algeria. Fourteen million soldiers sure does beat one million or so anyday. Ah well. This is all just OOC talk.

If the Godsend are those guys with the swords, what I said stands.

Icovir, this particular war deals with the attempt of Transylvania and Dephire to invade the Hatarian mainland and Western Hataria.

All the stuff with you guys fighting over the colonies is just unexpected entertainment as far as I'm concerned.
The Transylvania
07-11-2006, 21:38
All the stuff with you guys fighting over the colonies is just unexpected entertainment as far as I'm concerned.

Well have fun watching them. I will be moving on Cuba next.
Ackistan
07-11-2006, 22:05
Really I pulled the “GM is the invader” card and issued my ICly message to him. Warning he had 24 hours to leave. But he didn’t do it and the war is on.



Nonsense. It was plain to see both IC and OOC that GM wasn't invading Algeria for personal gain. Your Ultimatum was horseshit. You made a post that said "you have 24 hours to get out". Then you and GM had your OOC about the television stations, which you ended by saying you were ignoring GM's thread. Later, you came back and edited your "I am ignoring you" post to say that GM's 24 hours were up. Of course he didn't respond to your ultimatum. You said you were ignoring him.
Hotdogs2
07-11-2006, 22:05
This is based on the RL world right? Any particular World(like what number if any)?

Not sure exactly how your working this :P
The Transylvania
07-11-2006, 22:07
This is based on the RL world right? Any particular World(like what number if any)?

Not sure exactly how your working this :P

NS Earth!
The Transylvania
07-11-2006, 22:12
Nonsense. It was plain to see both IC and OOC that GM wasn't invading Algeria for personal gain.

I don’t care, the Count see it as personal gain on the GM side because the large number of soldiers he send into the land. Come on, nobody use 400,000+ soldiers unless you were invading the land.

Your Ultimatum was horseshit. You made a post that said "you have 24 hours to get out". Then you and GM had your OOC about the television stations, which you ended by saying you were ignoring GM's thread. Later, you came back and edited your "I am ignoring you" post to say that GM's 24 hours were up. Of course he didn't respond to your ultimatum. You said you were ignoring him.

The ultimatum was already up before I ignored the thread. He had his time before I ignore his thread. In which I’m not doing now.

Now, begone from here unless you are part of Electric Boogaloo.
Hotdogs2
07-11-2006, 22:13
NS Earth!

err, right. But you could be doing this as a closed earth, like our world, or the NS planet as such. NS earth doesn't help. The fact that cuba and other RL countries is listed doesn't help me on the IC thread. :P
Ackistan
07-11-2006, 22:28
The ultimatum was already up before I ignored the thread. He had his time before I ignore his thread. In which I’m not doing now.

For future reference, people tend to stop trying to role-play with you after you tell them that they are being ignored.
The Transylvania
07-11-2006, 23:28
For future reference, people tend to stop trying to role-play with you after you tell them that they are being ignored.

I told you to be gone. Now, be gone.
Axis Nova
08-11-2006, 03:51
Transylvania, please stop abusing the closed nature of the central RP to mean that you get free and easy walkovers into the former Hatarian colonies.

As they are occupied by no one, they are up for grabs by ANYONE-- not just you and Dephire.

In addition, you only count as occupying something if you actually posted about sending troops to it. Saying you're going to doesn't mean you actually have.
The Transylvania
08-11-2006, 04:02
I don’t give a damn anymore, I’m tried of the players that jump in after a week has pasted by. It is pissing me off.

Bretton’s thread is pissing me off. GM’s thread is pissing me off. You’re pissing me off because this thread should have moved a lot faster.

I’m pissed at everybody. I’m fucking pissed off because anything to do with Hataria is closed. Or that is what me, you and Dephire agreed on.

I'm backing off before I start flaming.
Axis Nova
08-11-2006, 04:04
I don’t give a damn anymore, I’m tried of the players that jump in after a week has pasted by. It is pissing me off.

Bretton’s thread is pissing me off. GM’s thread is pissing me off. You’re pissing me off because this thread should have moved a lot faster.

I’m pissed at everybody. I’m fucking pissed off because anything to do with Hataria is closed. Or that is what me, you and Dephire agreed on.

I'm backing off before I start flaming.

O.x How am I keeping things slow? Hataria's back and posted about your dude in Spain, and I can hardly take too much of a proactive role when you guys havn't started your next attack wave yet.

Just take a break if this is getting you all wound around the axle. The RP will still be here tomorrow.

Also, get MSN or something, so we can actually talk in real time and iron things out.

Again, the only thing that's closed is the stuff having to do with the attacks on the Hatarian mainland.
The Transylvania
08-11-2006, 04:07
O.x How am I keeping things slow? Hataria's back and posted about your dude in Spain, and I can hardly take too much of a proactive role when you guys havn't started your next attack wave yet.

Just take a break if this is getting you all wound around the axle. The RP will still be here tomorrow.

Also, get MSN or something, so we can actually talk in real time and iron things out.

Check your nation's telegram. My AIM address in it.
The Transylvania
08-11-2006, 04:41
This is from the AIMing between me and AN.

AN: I'm assuming the stuff with the colonies started a few weeks before the actual Dephiran attack, and is continuing onwards
ME: I was going with the stuff with the colonies started at the time of the attack and the Hat's forces leave a week before the attack
AN: It would have been more than a week.
AN: Even assuming some fudging on the part of Hataria's transport capabilities, we're talking millions of troops here.
AN: Fortunately, not millions of vehicles. o.x
AN: Due to Hataria not having heard of motorized infantry until I hit him in the face with the concept, of course.
ME:*Well, two weeks then
AN: So basically we're agreed the pullout would have started before the actual first invasion attempt
Hataria
08-11-2006, 04:56
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11917107&postcount=27

Dephire! Me and Axis Nova made it clear that no WMDs were to be used by BOTH sides!

Now, if you don't want Ignored and this Thread Closed I think you should NOT WMD US!
The Transylvania
08-11-2006, 04:57
Dephire, no WMDs means no WMDs. Anything that deals with NBC is a WMD.
Dephire
08-11-2006, 05:22
I'm sorry, I was not aware that a Biological weapon was a weapon of mass destruction...
The Transylvania
08-11-2006, 05:28
I'm sorry, I was not aware that a Biological weapon was a weapon of mass destruction...

If it is a mass killing weapon, that should have told you something.
Dephire
08-11-2006, 05:29
I still wouldn't consider the small number of transport ships a "Mass number" but oh well, I will edit the post as soon as I find something...better.
The Transylvania
08-11-2006, 05:32
It is still killing over fifty people, in which I see as mass killing. Thank you.
Dephire
08-11-2006, 05:36
How about dogchains made out of an alkaline metal which is covered in a thin layer of wax? I'm basically just really aiming at killing the Los Mexicans...not the enemy sailors.
The Transylvania
08-11-2006, 05:55
Just have themselves start fighting each other because they are losers. LOL Or maybe allow them to live, so we can get more war crimes on Axis and Hat.
Dephire
08-11-2006, 06:00
Thus the alkaline metal covered in wax.
When the wax deteriorates and the metal exposed to water, it would explode. This gives the impression of the target being shot or burned. Because the metal would of disintegrated in the process, there wouldn't be any evidence in support of Hataria and Axis Nova. So the warcrime would be pinned on them and not the other way around.
The Transylvania
08-11-2006, 06:01
Well whatever. They are your people. Have fun.
Dephire
08-11-2006, 06:02
It isn't at all fun without you.:(
The Transylvania
08-11-2006, 06:07
It isn't at all fun without you.:(

I’m not going to have a thing to do with, so don’t message the Count about it. So, it can really be pinned on Axis and Hat.
Dephire
08-11-2006, 06:08
Alrighty, I get it I get it! -laughs-
Anyways...We need to do some bloody work. Invasion of Spain coming up!
The Transylvania
08-11-2006, 06:11
Invasion of Spain coming up!

NO!!! Not Spain, my man. The one GM is invading is the one you want.
Axis Nova
08-11-2006, 06:18
Except for the part where Hatarian troops are filming everything they do with regards to the prisoners to prove to the world that the Hatarians are not barbarians and for propaganda reasons ("We destroyed an entire enemy fleet and captured all these troops!")

I think your attempted PR coup will backfire. :)
Dephire
08-11-2006, 06:21
Err...a bit late. -sighs as the paratroops fall in massive black clouds onto the soil of Spain-

Hmm...I wouldn't say you destroyed an ...err...nevermind. I guess you could say that considering the fact that the Los Mexican fleet is different than the Dephirian fleet.
The Transylvania
08-11-2006, 06:21
Dephire, no invading Spain. There is not need to do it. I have told you that already. *Walks away looking at the ground*
Dephire
08-11-2006, 06:23
Alright, how about it isn't an invasion...just me trying to move my troops towards the small straight that is closest to the northwest tip of Africa?
The Transylvania
08-11-2006, 06:30
Alright, how about it isn't an invasion...just me trying to move my troops towards the small straight that is closest to the northwest tip of Africa?

I don’t want large amounts of soldiers in Spain. I’m trying to be the good guy. Come on man, you are messing with my style. Use Sardinia as a launching point for your army to move into Algeria.

*Hits head on keyboard*

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*SEE*
Dephire
08-11-2006, 06:32
-.-
*Deletes yet another post.*
The Transylvania
08-11-2006, 06:36
Just have some ships prepared to meet my massive armada at sea. Or maybe help with the bombing of the mainland. And aim for Axis’ airships then move to army base, air bases and navy base on the mainland. It will take my armada a week to get to the mainland as me and AN agreed on in our AIMing. So, my bombers can’t do to many missions.
Dephire
08-11-2006, 06:49
OMG! I forgot that the Stonehenge and Dominator cannons have an Anti-Air capability!

Oh, and I'm not invading Algeria. -laughs-
Axis Nova
08-11-2006, 08:02
Don't try my patience. Such a weapon is utterly useless as an antiaircraft weapon because it will not be able to track an air target at all due to being too large and heavy to trasverse quickly enough.
Dephire
08-11-2006, 08:25
Ugh, it's not like the cannon is going to try and shoot down a plane with an artillery shell!

The Stonehenge and Dominator cannons have different types of ammunition which include:

EMP rounds
Anti-Air rounds (basically a concussion wave with some fragmentation and EMP emmitting such)
Anti-Ground (Large artillery shell)
Anti-Ship round (Naval purposes)
basic artillery round.

See, it doesn't have to aim directly at the aircraft in order to hit it. Just it's general direction within a few hundred feet.
The Transylvania
08-11-2006, 19:37
What did I tell you last night, AN. If Bretton moves on with his fucking thread, I will ignore you, him and Hat forever. I fucking tried of this bullshit.
Naasha
08-11-2006, 19:43
You appear to be swearing and ranting worse than Hataria now... I think if you don't like it when the thread goes against you then just politely pointing it out and quiting would leave you looking a lot more mature and give your point more validity.
The Transylvania
08-11-2006, 19:48
Dude, I’m pissed off because this stuff is happening after me and AN agree when the attack happened. And read what Bretton has in his thread.

Our objectives for achieving worldwide peace and order shall be carried out posthaste, before this conflict spills over into other areas from this battle in Western Hataria and elsewhere.

If that has happen then he can’t move onto those colonies because I will already have people on them. I’m tried of those using OOCly knowledge to role-play in IC.

And you can see why I’m known as the Pissed Off Texan.
Carbandia
08-11-2006, 19:52
Don't blame you mate..Seems a all too common event with rp's these days..

Naasha, the big difference between JWolf and Hataria is that the former doesn't curse unless he has a very good cause to, like in this case..
Naasha
08-11-2006, 19:53
No, I don't doubt that you were wronged in some way shape or form. I was just pointing out that ranting and threatening to ignore people over a disagreement wasn't going to get you anywhere.
The Transylvania
08-11-2006, 19:58
It is the only way I can deal with them. I’m just tried of the OOC knowledge being used in IC. I’m tried of Hat not posting in the closed thread. I’m tried of it all.

There is no way I can fight seven billion nation and AN & Hat at the mainland. I will deal with AN’s airships, but not deal with those high PMT things of Bretton. I see those as FT things over anything PMT.
Bretton
08-11-2006, 22:42
OOC: Huh. So you think Axis' rigid-body airships, with naval masers and reactive armor, are PMT, but by horrendously expensive, lifting-body transports, which rely on guns and missiles to protect themselves, cannot hover, and need something along the lines of 12 km of runway to take off, are FT? Your world-view scares me.

Also, lol at your recent post in the IC thread. You said "this happened a week earlier, lolz" so that must mean it trumps my thread? Oh, it is to laugh.

I'm not sure if you were aware, but Axis and I had signed an alliance in perpetuity back in 2004; technically speaking, I should be helping him defend Hataria, instead of sitting on the unconstested colonies on the fringes of his empire. Really, you accuse me of being dumber than Hataria, and yet when we compare your actions to a similar standard...
The Transylvania
08-11-2006, 23:01
Why are you writing OOC in an OOC thread? I don’t really care about your stuff. I really care about you because of your n00bs actions. I’m tried of AN back himself out of things. I’m tried of Hat backing out of things.

The actions I talking about is those faster then light cargo planes of your, or that is what I see them as because you did not role-play them correct.

And the IC thread is moving so slow because I had to be the one that fight AN and Hat on the mainland. Dehpire was the one that was going to do that and I was going after the colonies. You can see in that thread, I started with Spain. But I had to change what I had to do.

And Bretton, I was told this early by somebody. “You get pulling the ‘I’m bigger’ card.” And that is what you are doing. Please, leave me alone and stay out of things. Anything that has to do with Hat is a closed thread, that means everything. That was how it was agreed on by me, Dephire, and AN. And AN is pulling out of that deal.

I just want to have Closed Thread without seven billion nations hopping in because they just want more land.

Just please, drop everything.
Hataria
08-11-2006, 23:05
Why are you writing OOC in an OOC thread? I don’t really care about your stuff. I really care about you because of your n00bs actions. I’m tried of AN back himself out of things. I’m tried of Hat backing out of things.

The actions I talking about is those faster then light cargo planes of your, or that is what I see them as because you did not role-play them correct.

And the IC thread is moving so slow because I had to be the one that fight AN and Hat on the mainland. Dehpire was the one that was going to do that and I was going after the colonies. You can see in that thread, I started with Spain. But I had to change what I had to do.

And Bretton, I was told this early by somebody. “You get pulling the ‘I’m bigger’ card.” And that is what you are doing. Please, leave me alone and stay out of things. Anything that has to do with Hat is a closed thread, that means everything. That was how it was agreed on by me, Dephire, and AN. And AN is pulling out of that deal.

I just want to have Closed Thread without seven billion nations hopping in because they just want more land.

Just please, drop everything.

Well, they are more like Spin offs of The Closed Thread, not The Close Thread it self.
The Transylvania
08-11-2006, 23:12
It is not two-on-two anymore. It is three-on-two. That is all I’m going to say.
Bretton
08-11-2006, 23:19
OOC: Sorry, old habits die hard I suppose. Saying a comment is OOC in an OOC thread.... damn, I'm bad.

Anyway.

I do not accept your above statements, Transylvania. To be perfectly honest, you're just making shit up now. I've referenced with both Hataria and Axis on this, your "anything having to do with Hataria is closed" claim is wholly rejected. Unless the aggressor parties in wars get to make up their own terms, and damn the other parties, your argument is invalid.

Now, as to "three on two," it only has to be that way if you make it that way. I'm dropping airborne forces on the now-unoccupied colonies. If you so desire to continue fighting over those, go ahead. Despite my obligations to assist Axis in his operations, I have no intention of getting involved in the conflict proper. Between Axis and I, Dephire would have to bring along his entire ADAN goons, and even then it would still be a very far shot. :P

Re: my FTL transports. I'm beginning to think I did a poor job in communication. My first post in that thread was stating the mobilization; my second post, actually showing it, was meant to be in the form of a propaganda video distributed both among my people, as well as Hataria's former colonists (and the native populations, if they exist). E.g. the onloading of forces to those Ouroboros units was pre-recorded footage, whereas the actual drop operation was live.

I apologize if that was unclear based on the way I wrote it; it seemed fine to me.
The Transylvania
08-11-2006, 23:26
I don’t care, I’m mad at AN by calling you in. I have not called any of my allies or DC members in to help with the colonies thing. Because AN never told that they were not closed like the invasion is at the start of this thread.

If he did, I would have told DC members to land in those area.

Meaning I’m fucked. I wanted to turn the colonies into their own nations like the Dominion or Axis Nova and etc. Hell, I have already paid for things to help those colonies with my own nation’s money.
The Transylvania
09-11-2006, 00:44
This is from part of the AIMing between Me and AN. And now, he is not answer because he is helping his mother.

ME: Read what I just posted in the OOC thread
ME: Sorry, I'm blaming you on this matter.
ME: Don't waste your time. I don't want to role-play unless Bretton backs off.
ME: I want the colonies, not the mainland.
AN: o.x Then what is this war even about?
ME: I was forced into attack the mainland.
ME: Dephire is the one that was going to attack the mainland.
ME: You got me?
ME: I told not to waste your time. I'm not reading that post until Bretton backs off. I'm not going to do anything with you or Hat in that thread until Bretton backs off.
ME: Plus, I never wanted Spain or that African nation. Cuba and China is what I wanted, but I was starting with the closest one first because you never told me that the colonies were open to everybody.
ME: I checked in the old OOC thread and it was never there.
ME: And you never said in the new IC thread until the thing with GM happened.
ME: So, everything is on you for not saying anything. Please for the sake of the rp, tell Bretton to back off.

If you read the posts of mine in the start of the OOC thread, you would see this is not war. Dephire wanted it, but now I’m the one that has to do it. All I wanted was to turn the colonies into their own nations. I had to change that after Dephire’s invasion fleet failed. If you know me, I have never loss a war. And this war had my name in it.

I can’t handle fighting AN and Hat at the mainland front and Bretton for the colonies that I have all right to claimed. I never once said I was going to turn those colonies into my own. I said I was make them into temporary colonies of the Dominion. Unlike what Bretton is doing and just grabbing land for the hell of it.

I’m not going to bring in the DC or any of my Gholgoth mates because they would not made it fair for each side. Plus, I know the DC could have defeat Bretton’s PMT army in combat. I don’t want to ask AMF or the others for help because everybody would like I’m hiding behind them.

Bretton, just back off because you are AN’s ally and not Hat’s ally. AN is only fighting from the mainland front. So, there is no real reason to help him in this matter. You are just starting something that makes no scene unless you are just a land grabbing nation.
Bretton
09-11-2006, 00:56
OOC: Well, that's nice. You want to turn them into their own countries, I don't. Depending on how this war goes from here, I'll either be handing them back to Hataria or keeping them for myself. I'm really not that big into real-world territories since it gets confusing trying to keep them organized, since eight hundred different people have claimed eight hundred different Japans in eight hundred different scenarios. It's just too complicated to be worth the effort, as far as I'm concerned.

Your "all right to claim" spiel is amusing, because you've effectively got the same right to them that I or anyone else does: They're there, and nobody's guarding them. Your side moved to get Spain and Algeria before I did, and I will not fight you over those. I have now collected the other areas with an airborne drop operation. If you wish to fight me over those, you can. On the other hand, we can both go away happy from this encounter if you do not. The best war is the one not fought, as they say, and I wholly believe in this motto. Now, why don't you and Dephire get back to fighting the war with Hataria and Axis, instead of opening up a new front here that you couldn't possibly hope to walk away from.
The Transylvania
09-11-2006, 01:03
Now, why don't you and Dephire get back to fighting the war with Hataria and Axis, instead of opening up a new front here that you couldn't possibly hope to walk away from.

Because for the fact, I was never going to attack Hat’s mainland. Did you not read that from me? This was Dephire’s war, but now I have to finish his war for me. And he is not listening to me.

I got pushed into something that I never wanted to do, but now I have to do that and not do what I wanted to do.

And I have just asked for help from my Gholgoth mates. If they can help, I will un-ignore your thread because I want those colonies. They don’t need to be in the hands of other empire that will just turn them in test subject for your genomes. Or whatever AN told me about your soldiers.
Bretton
09-11-2006, 02:05
OOC: Well that's nice. Again, that's all OOC information. I learn that Hataria is being invaded by Transylvania and Dephire, and my ally Axis Nova is going to defend him. How am I to know your true objectives?

Using OOC information is a blanket no-no, even in situations like this where it would have helped me. You can't use it sometimes and not use it others.

I find your "I ignore you unless my friends come to help" rhetoric to be both depressing and pathetic. Tell you what, since you've decided to ignore my perfectly legitimate airborne operation, why don't I ignore you bringing Gholgoth, and my good friend AMF, along for the ride?

Or, even better, why don't you bring Gholgoth into the fray, and I'll invade your homeland? Do you think that would be fun?

I do not want to fight a war, but if you insist, I will oblige in spades.
The Transylvania
09-11-2006, 02:23
If you don't want a war, then why take things that you know would cause a war. It is a dumb move.

And invading my homeland, I could use all my cool things. Like my mutants and etc. Because you will be on my rules. Up to you, but don't cry after I have people using their powers to bring down your cargo planes. And have hurricanes take out your ships. And etc.

And you know what, I hate liars, too. You lied about my nation and Dephire. That commie thing was way out of line. I feel sorry for the fools that believe that. Do research on people’s nations before you say they are commies.
Bretton
09-11-2006, 02:47
OOC: Pffffft. You're starting a war, not me. I'm preventing one from happening in the first place. If that's not good enough for you, I'm not really sure what to say.

Also, lol at "your rules." Seeing as you're refusing to acknowledge my perfectly legitimate operation unless you get Gholgoth to attack me, we're already on "your rules." You just want to wank even more at me now, is that it?

Honestly, your argument looses more and more face every time you try to refute one of my points. Why don't you just stop and give it a rest, allright? We'd all appreciate it.

EDIT: Sorry, I didn't realize you'd be editing your posts after I make a response.

I called your nations "communist" because that's what I do to any country I am currently demonizing. If you'd read my NSWiki profile, you'd understand that "commies" are a propaganda boogieman that I use to great effect when hostilities are present.

Of course, I've got no idea what your government might be like, seeing as I can't find a profile on NSWiki for you either. Really, I'm beginning to wonder how you think I should know all these things about you that aren't exactly IC knowledge.
The Transylvania
09-11-2006, 02:53
The question is this, why don’t you drop it all? Or is your nation like I said early, a land grabbing nations that turns their people in monsters.

Bretton, your actions with the godmode thread were out of line. The Dephire attack was the present thing, the colonies grab thing happens a week early. And your thread has stuff about the attack on the mainland, meaning it is in the worng timeline. GET IT?

And I have a factbook on the II forum, all you had to do was find it. OR ask me for it because you called a nation, which hate commies and Nazis, a thing that it is not.

This is all I see of your action, you are pulling ‘I’m bigger’ card on me, which is a n00bish move. If you read my message to the world, you would have found out what I’m doing with the colonies. I’m going to help them out. I’m not sending invasion fleets to take them by force. I’m doing it the right way.

And if you wanted to know, you could have asked my goverment about what we are going to do. Right now, the Count see you as an enemy. I'm thinking about un-ingoreing your thread, but you are still being a butt to me. Stop talking down to me like you are better then me.
Bretton
09-11-2006, 03:00
OOC: "GODMOD" "CHEATER" "LIAR" etc. You're not even debating this anyone, you're just making wild allegations with no factual basis. Do you even think about what you write, or just put down whatever's floating through your mind at the time?

I'm beginning to think I'd be doing II a favor by handling you like I handled Imperial Nod (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=472522) back in March.
The Transylvania
09-11-2006, 03:06
Well, the godmode thing stands because you are not in the right timeline. I don’t even know were you are at.

Most of my post are coming from pure anger because I hate people getting into things where they don’t need to be.

And all how nice, you just called me a ‘N00b’. And a flame. Good job!

Just shut up because you still looking bad in my eyes. You are just a bully.

If you want me to make a IC post, then hush up and stop talking down to me.
Hataria
09-11-2006, 03:09
Well, the godmode thing stands because you are not in the right timeline. I don’t even know were you are at.

Most of my post are coming from pure anger because I hate people getting into things where they don’t need to be.

And all how nice, you just called me a ‘N00b’. And a flame. Good job!

Just shut up because you still looking bad in my eyes. You are just a bully.

If you want me to make a IC post, then hush up and stop talking down to me.

Stop your Gripeing Trans, you don't say who is being a Godmoder, now if you want be to get The Mods on this I will, and I think they will side with Me, Bretton and Axis Nova-chan.
Axis Nova
09-11-2006, 03:12
Bretton is actually lower tech than I, Transylvania.
Bretton
09-11-2006, 03:15
OOC: I wasn't calling you the above, I was quoting the gist of your baseless allegations.

Listen, I'm tired of you spouting off things that don't even make sense anymore. If you'd like to have a civil discussion about this, fine. Until then, bugger off. You're not worth the effort of debating.
The Transylvania
09-11-2006, 03:33
Stop your Gripeing Trans, you don't say who is being a Godmoder, now if you want be to get The Mods on this I will, and I think they will side with Me, Bretton and Axis Nova-chan.

Nope, they don't really side with poeple, Hat. Sorry.
The Transylvania
09-11-2006, 05:35
Does anybody think it would be weird, if I called this off? Because this war was not my idea, it is Dephire’s idea. That I had to pick up because his failed attack. And me declaring peace would nor be a win for you, Hat. And if you want to say that, you will be seen as fool.

I will just declare this a mistake and the Count will laugh it after later.

Or I could declare terms for peace, that you hand the person who ordered the random nuclear test to me. And hell, I don’t care if it really the guy that did it. You can always pick some random person that is in commander of your nuclear things and he can face the crimes against humanity.
GMC Military Arms
09-11-2006, 08:47
Nope, they don't really side with poeple, Hat. Sorry.

Actually, we do when we're asked to say which of two groups is breaking the rules, unless either they both are or neither are.

And posting 'argh rage fuck fuck fuck' in Bretton's threads is breaking the rules, by the way, even if you delete it afterwards.
The Transylvania
09-11-2006, 14:56
And posting 'argh rage fuck fuck fuck' in Bretton's threads is breaking the rules, by the way, even if you delete it afterwards.

Really, that is not breaking the rules. Or are you saying the the f word is a flame, now? I have a huge anger problem when poeple want to be butts about things. I have being dealing with this for close to four days now.
Hataria
09-11-2006, 18:47
Really, that is not breaking the rules. Or are you saying the the f word is a flame, now? I have a huge anger problem when poeple want to be butts about things. I have being dealing with this for close to four days now.

O_O TRANS! Don't do anything Stupid, GMC can ban you are four months! so don't Picka Fight with The Mods, Please
The Transylvania
09-11-2006, 19:20
Ban me for what? I have not don't anything against the rules. I said the f word a lot, but that is not against the rules.

And a post will come after I think of something to do. I'm thinikng of some good come back, but I need to think before I post. Only had three hours of rest last night. Damn, why do I allows this game to get the best of me?

And here is for all the uses of the fun word the ’F word.’ I’m sorry that my anger got the best of me. Maybe we can work through this without it taking back over.

And Hat, have you did any with Ivan in Spain? Please man do something or I can’t move on in that area.
Dephire
09-11-2006, 23:27
O.o
What the heck is going on here? I wanted a clean fight! Now there is all of this cursing and swearing. Now I'm losing my interest in Hataria! -bleh-

Grr. All I really wanted was to have Spain, Algeria, China, and one other RL nation. Well, also to get a few points in rep for being able to finally fight Hataria. Other than that, I'm sick of fighting. :p

I hate to sound like a whining S.O.B. but I dislike the dirty talk.

Let us cut the cursing bull, and let us continue this thread. Maybe we can come to a mutual agreement over the mainland of Hataria, but those colonies are Transylvania's and mine. :D

Also, I would like to point out that I am rather disappointed in you Hataria. Oh well.

Axis Nova, I have respect towards you. Heck, you are helping me out in some aspects with the whole 'debating' stuff. Hey, I may even think of you as a friend. :)

Now, can we move along?
The Transylvania
09-11-2006, 23:31
Hell man, I’m having fun with the war of words again. Vega and Ba'al has a 100 million bounty on their head. Ha!

The colonies are mine because I want to help them, not forcing them to join my army. I want them to govern themselves then they will join the DC because of the help I did with their nation. Ha!

And you can have the bloody mainland. I don’t want that.
Dephire
09-11-2006, 23:40
-Sniffle-
Can I at least have Algeria and maybe a small portion of Spain to do with as I will? Also, I'm not forcing them to do anything. If they want to join, then they can join. I'll be upset if they choose not to, but that's their decision. Furthermore, I don't want the mainland. I only wanted to finally mobilize my troops! OW! Why the hell did you hit me Skragg?

-Vega slaps Skragg. Skragg slaps Vega. Vega pulls out sword. Skragg backs off.-

Yeah I see. Anyways...
Bretton
09-11-2006, 23:54
OOC: Dephire: If you're grumbling about my "godmod" land grab of the former Hatarian colonies, I've got no interest in fighting an offensive war over any of them. Because you have already taken action in Spain and Algeria, I will not be involving myself over those.

As for the rest, I intend to hold onto those until the conflict has ended, then either hand them back to Hataria, or if he won't be reclaiming them, letting them off on their own and some humanitarian hand-wringers can set them up/fight over them. Simply put, I reject the takeover of these areas by hostile powers.
The Transylvania
09-11-2006, 23:57
Okay, Mr. Nazi nation. Sorry, I had to do because your nation reminds me of the Nazis are you do thing against their will. We will see what the people think. That is when I make the post about the plane heading toward Cuba.
Dephire
10-11-2006, 00:17
The only problem in all of our scenarios is that if we do give the nations back to their own control, then some other power-hungry player will try and take them over. Which completely eradicates the entire purpose.

I'm actually going to do some major editing. Hataria is now just a nuisance.:p
Hataria
10-11-2006, 02:16
Dephire: I put a $1,000,000,000,000 Bounty on Scythis.
The Transylvania
10-11-2006, 02:34
Hat, I have asked you nicely by saying please a couple of times. Will you do something with Ivan, my pilot in Spain? If not, I will just move on without you. I don’t why I have not done that already because AN told me and Dephire that all Hatarians were gone from those lands.
Hataria
10-11-2006, 03:18
Hat, I have asked you nicely by saying please a couple of times. Will you do something with Ivan, my pilot in Spain? If not, I will just move on without you. I don’t why I have not done that already because AN told me and Dephire that all Hatarians were gone from those lands.


I Will, but I am Busy with something.
Dephire
10-11-2006, 03:22
Dephire: I put a $1,000,000,000,000 Bounty on Scythis.

One trillion what? USD or Hatarian dollars?
Hataria
10-11-2006, 03:32
One trillion what? USD or Hatarian dollars?

USD
The Transylvania
10-11-2006, 03:34
I Will, but I am Busy with something.

Well, please hurry. So the story can move on.
Dephire
10-11-2006, 03:36
USD

WHAT?! Only one trillion USD?! Wow. That bites. My character's head is worth almost the cost of WWII!!!
The Transylvania
10-11-2006, 20:47
Hat, I’m going to ask you this once. Will you role-play the people of the former colonies right?

I mean they are not going to be pro-Hataria anymore as they will see what your empire did to them. They will not be pro-Axis Novan or and any of your allies because they just sat back and watched as your people destroy things on those colonies.

I will be moving on Algeria in my next IC post because Bretton would have not moved into that area because it is to close to the Dominion. That would be a death wish even to somebody’s Bretton’s size. Because I could all of my things to fight him.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11914472&postcount=24 There is the post for Spain.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=506208&page=2 I’m moving on Cuba with a Lear jet in here.

Take your time, but I’m not moving with my war fleet because it will take a week to get there. And I want to use that time to do some good things.
Dephire
10-11-2006, 20:51
I guess that since it shall take your fleet a week, then it will take my fleet a week as well.
Carbandia
10-11-2006, 20:57
WHAT?! Only one trillion USD?! Wow. That bites. My character's head is worth almost the cost of WWII!!!
Better watch your back, then..There are a lot of people around why find 1tr USD a tempting sum to get..

Not that I, or any of my chars, are among them..We take our alliances more seriosly than that.:D
Dephire
10-11-2006, 21:00
Better watch your back, then..There are a lot of people around why find 1tr USD a tempting sum to get..

Not that I, or any of my chars, are among them..We take our alliances more seriosly than that.:D

It would also be rather...odd for some goody goody nation to even take the bribe by such a...how do you say? Evil nation?
The Transylvania
10-11-2006, 21:01
I guess that since it shall take your fleet a week, then it will take my fleet a week as well.

Yes.
Carbandia
10-11-2006, 21:02
Goody nation? Must be doing a good job of fooling everyone, then (j/k):D

But yea..Would be more tempted to try for the bounty on Hataria's empress..*forgot the name* Nadia?
Dephire
10-11-2006, 21:05
I guess I should up the anty by offering a eight trillion USD offer for Hataria's head...which is pretty much my waste...:p
Dephire
10-11-2006, 21:05
Yes.

Coolies! How many ships do you have again? Once our joint armada reaches open water, my main battle fleet will meet up with them.
The Transylvania
10-11-2006, 21:13
Coolies! How many ships do you have again? Once our joint armada reaches open water, my main battle fleet will meet up with them.

It f***ing huge. The numbers are in the IC thread. Hell, I don’t know the numbers.

Carbandia, the bounties are only for the people in the closed RP or that is what I think.
Dephire
10-11-2006, 21:18
Well, my secondary battle fleet is (as stated) roughly four hundred ships. Both of Dephirian and Los Mexican grade. My main battle fleet is comprised of roughly over five hundred Dephirian Capital-Ranked ships. These ships are the best of the Dephirian fleet and do have some capabilities unseen in most ships. Such as anti-air lasers, which is actually becoming more MT because of the United States Airforce.

So. Is this alright?
The Transylvania
10-11-2006, 21:29
Works for me and the thread because it is MT-PMT. Well, get your post up with them getting ready then heading out to sea.
Dephire
10-11-2006, 21:32
Works for me and the thread because it is MT-PMT. Well, get your post one with them get ready then heading out to sea.

I'll have to post later. Right now, I'm heading outside to enjoy the warm sunshine while it lasts.
The Transylvania
11-11-2006, 18:40
Hat, I’m going to ask you this once. Will you role-play the people of the former colonies right?

I mean they are not going to be pro-Hataria anymore as they will see what your empire did to them. They will not be pro-Axis Novan or and any of your allies because they just sat back and watched as your people destroy things on those colonies.

I will be moving on Algeria in my next IC post because Bretton would have not moved into that area because it is to close to the Dominion. That would be a death wish even to somebody’s Bretton’s size. Because I could all of my things to fight him.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11914472&postcount=24 There is the post for Spain.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=506208&page=2 I’m moving on Cuba with a Lear jet in here.

Take your time, but I’m not moving with my war fleet because it will take a week to get there. And I want to use that time to do some good things.

Hat, are you ever going to post? If not, I will move with the story without you. The fleet is a week away, there is nothing I can do with them. So, I’m taking that time to mess with the colonies.
Dephire
11-11-2006, 20:19
Sorry for the super short post on the IC thread, I was just challenged to do some combat in Ghost Recon. Hehehehe!
The Transylvania
11-11-2006, 20:34
That is all right, D-man. We just waiting for Hat to post.
Axis Nova
11-11-2006, 23:09
Hataria just MSNed me and told me he has the flu, and to say he can't post till he's better.
The Transylvania
12-11-2006, 02:04
Hataria just MSNed me and told me he has the flu, and to say he can't post till he's better.

Well, I’m moving on without him until he gets back because I don‘t have all the time in the world. And I have a feeling Hat will drag this out until I get bored and forget about. And that is not going to happen.

You are back in the person who is going to role-play as Hat.

And a little FYI, I don’t believe anything Hat says because he lied a lot in his past on NS. Sorry, that is the way I was raised to not believe people that lie.
Axis Nova
13-11-2006, 23:43
Sorry for not posting anything the past few days, Neverwinter Nights 2 has been sucking up all my free time. *goes to get up to speed*
Dephire
14-11-2006, 01:53
Was my post godmoding at all? Just been overly critical upon myself.
Axis Nova
14-11-2006, 02:00
Looks fine to me, though I would note that having so many different types of aircraft on your carriers is a very bad idea due to needing to carry many different types of spare parts and munitions as well as training repair crews and so forth to handle lots of different craft.

Have your combined fleets entered the region yet?
Dephire
14-11-2006, 02:11
Looks fine to me, though I would note that having so many different types of aircraft on your carriers is a very bad idea due to needing to carry many different types of spare parts and munitions as well as training repair crews and so forth to handle lots of different craft.

Have your combined fleets entered the region yet?

I don't believe they have. Also, I am aware of the variations of aircraft, thus why I am not solely relying on two or three aircraft carriers. Six to be exact..well...eight if you include the two Capital Ranked flagships with carrier capability..
The Transylvania
14-11-2006, 03:22
Have your combined fleets entered the region yet?

Nope, not even close to the mainland. An IC post will appear in the IC thread soon. Like I told you in AIM, AN, I’m going with the colonies as the fleets travel their week long trip.