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Early this morning, Tiberius Griffincrest announced to the world that the CA has achieved victory on all fronts over the Communist and Anachist forces that were the anti-CA and GASN forces. After the sinking of the Scandinvan fleet and having TPF forces die by the thousands on the beaches of the Confederacy, a new wind was spread throughout Corporate Alliance forces. From there, attacks on TPF itselfcame through, followed by a cease fire in The World Soviet Party, Beiraqi victory over Icovir, Maldorians invasion of Galmiria, and the withdrawal of Hataria into isolationism, thus ending its soon to be doomed assaults on Undershi and Demon 666.

All across the Confederacy, celebrations broke out in the streets as millions of joyous citizens flew the Confederate colors from their windows, as ticker tape parades were seen on streets across the country as thousands of Confederate and Griffincrest troops came home. Girls ran out to hug their boyfriends and husbands, and men smiled from their tanks, jeeps and humvees as they drove triumphant through the cities the called home. Gnat fighters streaked through the air, showing off the impressive maneuvers their skilled pilots had learned during breaks in combat. Ships sailed into port under a hail of fireworks, a welcome sight over the planes bombs and missiles many sailors had grown accustomed to. But, in the back of each and every one the men that were now arriving home, they all knew men had died so that they could be here, and that men died to keep their nation free of invasion.

Tiberius also reminded the CA members that the war would still need to be fought on smaller scale conflicts, such as that in Khornate Tribes and in New Africa, but for now, the main bulk of conflict has ended.

The Almighty Empire of Zukariaa congradulates all nations involved on the many fronts on the side of the CA, whether part of it or simply alligned with it, as the Empire is. It also announced that it's fleet would stick around the Confederacy for awhile in case of another attack. The same went for Undershi, where a Saint Rynaldi uprising seemed to be taking place. It announced that it would help the Confederacy and the Alliance again in the future if needed. Until then, good job everyone.

While the Imperial Empire congratulates Blackhelm on its victory, we are still having peace talks. Hataria took Japan away from our Empire, and we are demanding its return.
Consequently, while we congratulate Blackhelm, war is not over for us.

OOC: Actually, just say the invasion fleet as I had not want to get involved in a thread further with nuclear and chemical weapons.

OOC:
You can't really claim victory over TWSP as he said he was ignoring that entire thread. And if you do and claim some of his land as your territory, it could be considered flagrant godmodding.

OOC:

Huh?

We had you on the ropes...

Seems more like an admitance that another large scale war is less than desireable by both parties.

Which would explain the new wave of terrorism in my country...
Just remember, terrorism begets terrorism, and I've got the best terrorists on NS roaming my lands...

Black Hand of Nod... (Laughs insanely)

Though even without them, I've still a fairly competant force to be reckoned with.

OFFICIAL IMPERIAL PROCLIMATION
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TO: Corporate Alliance Membership
CC: All Those Involved
FROM: Geroge A. Loak, Supreme Emperor of the Dark Empire of Shazbotdom

The people of the Dark Empire of Shazbotdom find it laughable that Mr. Tiberius Griffencrest thinks that he has achieved "Total Victory" on all fronts against forces of the Global Alliance of Sovern Nations. We here in the Dark Empire believe that there has been no victory on any front, only death on both sides. And the forces of Griffencrest have not even assaulted the forces of the Dark Empire yet. You cannot claim victory if your enemy still exists. Rethink your wording before spouting out any more burocratic bullshit. Have a nice day Mr. Tiberius Griffencrest.

OFFICIAL IMPERIAL PROCLIMATION
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TO: Corporate Alliance Membership
CC: All Those Involved
FROM: Geroge A. Loak, Supreme Emperor of the Dark Empire of Shazbotdom

The people of the Dark Empire of Shazbotdom find it laughable that Mr. Tiberius Griffencrest thinks that he has achieved "Total Victory" on all fronts against forces of the Global Alliance of Sovern Nations. We here in the Dark Empire believe that there has been no victory on any front, only death on both sides. And the forces of Griffencrest have not even assaulted the forces of the Dark Empire yet. You cannot claim victory if your enemy still exists. Rethink your wording before spouting out any more burocratic bullshit. Have a nice day Mr. Tiberius Griffencrest.

OOC: Its like "Hezbollah versus Israel 2: Electric Boogaloo"

General Resources

Victory for Griffencrest was survival. Victory for the GASN was destruction of Griffencrest.

Griffencrest remains alive, Griffencrest wins, the GASN has failed in that regard.

[END]

~snip~

Encrypted Transmission from Mafia

We've won for now. Though I suggest purchasing over the period of the next 10-20 years the Earwig upgrade program for the Gnat and buying more advanced fighters.

We've sent through Beiraq our victory gift of gold-plated guns.

For now, we rest in peace.

[END]

OOC: Its like "Hezbollah versus Israel 2: Electric Boogaloo"

General Resources

Victory for Griffencrest was survival. Victory for the GASN was destruction of Griffencrest.

Griffencrest remains alive, Griffencrest wins, the GASN has failed in that regard.

[END]

OOC
GASN was in a defensive posture, under no circumstance did we assault Griffencrest directly (except in remote cases)

Whereas Griffencrest not only declared war upon GASN, they also acted on the offensive, their original goals being the destruction of TWSP and New Ausha.

It has been Griffencrest who has failed, if anybody.

OOC
GASN was in a defensive posture, under no circumstance did we assault Griffencrest directly (except in remote cases)

Whereas Griffencrest not only declared war upon GASN, they also acted on the offensive, their original goals being the destruction of TWSP and New Ausha.

It has been Griffencrest who has failed, if anybody.

Israel was in a defensive posture, and under no circumstance did they assault Hezbollah directly, (except in remote cases, where it was deemed necessary).

Whereas Hezbollah calls directly for the destruction of the state of Israel and acted on it with constant terrorist attacks in the form of Katyusha rockets, kidnappings and random gunfire.

Point being, my original analogy still stands.

Across all Griffincrest computer systems and televisions, the Wanderjarian virus attacked. Regular programs flashed into a black screen, as did computer screens, followed by the appearance of a white sillhouette of a man's face.

In a deep, rasping voice he spoke, "You claim victory? Ha! We have not begun to fight. We have contributed nothing to this conflict as of yet, so do not make the mistake of claiming victory over us. You have not, and never will, defeat me. We are watching you."


(OOC: No, I'm not coming back full yet, as that is not feasible for me at this time. I am just saying that I am watching you.)

'I find this entire prospect ridiculous. Victory? Neither side in this bloody conflict can claim victory. Both sides have failed. The Corporate Alliance, in its original role as invader and conquerer, has failed as they have not succeeded to conquer so much as they may have liked, and thousands upon thousands of their soldiers have died as a result of ill-advised attempts to invade peaceful nations. Small land gains in exchange for massive casualty numbers is not victory. It is a meatgrinder. Now that cease-fires are being signed, I find it laughable that the Corporate Alliance claims victory.

'Of course, the Anti-Corporate Alliance forces cannot claim victory any more than those of Mr Griffincrest himself can. They have failed in their attempts to keep corporate troops off their land, and in efforts to take the fight to the enemy homeland. They ahve also caused mounting casualty numbers to the enemies. As such, it appears to me that the entire conflict has degenerated into a bloody stalemate, and now that peace accords are being worked out, the Corporate Alliance finds itself in need of a propaganda victory.

'People are not stupid, Mr Griffincrest. No matter how much you lie to them, they can still see the truth. You have not achieved as much victory as a fly achieves by stealing part of a carcass from the massive vultures. This entire 'victory' affair makes me laugh.'

Prime Minister Jaime Wolfe

OOC: In war, only the loser can define when it is over. The winner can never do this; war is not won or over before both sides agree to that.

OOC: In war, only the loser can define when it is over. The winner can never do this; war is not won or over before both sides agree to that.

OOC: Propaganda is awesome. Erwin Konig is dead!

Sometimes to win the other side has to lose. Griffencrest was just taking over random small nations, and suddenlyt his massive coalition goes and attacks a Corporation and its hosting nation.

The Corporation is still alive and well. Therefore the Corporation can declare victory. In the end, every nation that participated lost.

OOC: No, it can not. If that "corporation" fought against someone, but that someone is still waging war, unwilling to admit that he has been defeated, that corporation has not won. If neither side has got the enemy to admit his defeat, then neither side can declare complete victory.

OOC: Lmao, Electric Boogaloo, hahhahahah, that one cracked me up.

I can claim victory, as CA forces are no longer in any really large scale battles, and those they were in either stalemated or ended in CA victory.

And Haraki, are you still going to be in that thread?

OOC: You guys just don't get it... like USA can't win the war in Iraq by saying it has won the war and just because Iraq has been conquered, you cannot say that you have won a war until your enemies admit their defeat or there are no enemies left.

OOC: You guys just don't get it... like USA can't win the war in Iraq by saying it has won the war and just because Iraq has been conquered, you cannot say that you have won a war until your enemies admit their defeat or there are no enemies left.

The USA did say we won the war back in 2003 when Bush landed on that carrier, remember? And also, I am not occupying any land that I need to suppress rebelions in.

OOC: You guys just don't get it... like USA can't win the war in Iraq by saying it has won the war and just because Iraq has been conquered, you cannot say that you have won a war until your enemies admit their defeat or there are no enemies left.

We can declare victory all we want. From the way we see it, we've won. We don't care about what the losers think. :rolleyes:

OOC: You guys just don't get it... like USA can't win the war in Iraq by saying it has won the war and just because Iraq has been conquered, you cannot say that you have won a war until your enemies admit their defeat or there are no enemies left.

OOC: In RPing, you cannot truely "eliminate" your enemy; even if you kill the same number of them as is registered as their population, they can still refuse to concede defeat. Thus, the only way to "win" would be to have your enemy admit defeat, or just run off. Most of the CA's enemies have just run off, and others have either been stalemated or beaten down so bad that it shouldn't matter whether or not they concede defeat. Thus, a claim to victory is logical.

OOC: Of course people can declare whatever they want, that's not the point. But if you really look at the claim, you will find it false no matter how hard you twist it. The side that is winning cannot determine the end of the war. Nonetheless, enough of this debate. I'm sorry for cluttering your thread with all this OOC. *disappears to the shadows*

OOC: Of course people can declare whatever they want, that's not the point. But if you really look at the claim, you will find it false no matter how hard you twist it. The side that is winning cannot determine the end of the war. Nonetheless, enough of this debate. I'm sorry for cluttering your thread with all this OOC. *disappears to the shadows*

OOC: You are completely ignoring our evidence and just saying that we are wrong! You . . . left. Nevermind then. :D

Blackhelm, check your TGs.

OOC: Of course people can declare whatever they want, that's not the point. But if you really look at the claim, you will find it false no matter how hard you twist it. The side that is winning cannot determine the end of the war. Nonetheless, enough of this debate. I'm sorry for cluttering your thread with all this OOC. *disappears to the shadows*

Like I said, the winner shouldn't care about what the loser thinks. They lost. They don't have the right to say they haven't. :p

Zukariaa;11888102']Like I said, the winner shouldn't care about what the loser thinks. They lost. They don't have the right to say they haven't. :p

Ah, Zuk. You never cease to entertain. *hands cookie*

Remember when both Hezbollah and Israel declared victory.

Israel said it had defeated Hezbollah, but in reality, Hezbollah probably has more recruits than ever and the kidnapped soldiers haven't been returned.

Hezbollah, never got anything for kidnapping the soldiers except bullets and bombs, but it has survived. One of the world's most advanced militaries can't beat an armed political party with Iranian rockets.

Griffencrest and his Corporate Alliance has stalemated, or defeated every enemy. They have given up. Therefore, Griffencrest have won.

OOC: You are completely ignoring our evidence and just saying that we are wrong! You . . . left. Nevermind then. :D

Blackhelm, check your TGs.

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On behalf of his highness, Emperor Ivan Semyonovich Sviatov, I would like to applaud all those nations that attempted to bring down the Griffincrest Corporation and its Corporate Alliance. Despite the stalemate and cease fire aggreements we hope this leads to the Corporate Alliance being less aggressive in the future and more such stands taken against them.

In regards to the apparent declaration of total victory by one Tiberius Griffincrest, we must state our amusement. Either this is a poor attempt at propaganda, or the poor fellow is simply delusional.

Kilrany foreign affairs minister
Pavel Kasatikin

(OOC: Hell griffencrest never even replied to TG I sent him asking for a war ¬_¬ *mumbles something about how he wouldv'e kicked CA arse*)

(OOC: Hell griffencrest never even replied to TG I sent him asking for a war ¬_¬ *mumbles something about how he wouldv'e kicked CA arse*)

Oh, I'm sorry, I don't check my TG's frequently, I'll have a go.

Oh, I'm sorry, I don't check my TG's frequently, I'll have a go.

(OOC: woah, okay then let me finish up my RP I got going now...)

And Haraki, are you still going to be in that thread?

Yes. I think I've mentioned this, but it's going to move slowly as all the posts until I get into actual bombings and such are going to be long and detailed to set up the characters and the situation. That'll probably last a few more posts before my characters are actually in Egyptianstan and hitting stuff.

Okie dokie, but how long are we talking when you say long posts?

Brettonian Ministry of Information
Official Statement

Congratulations to the right honorable Mr. Tiberius Griffencrest and his regime in the defeat of the thuggish socialist/collectivist forces of GASN and their ilk. We wish the Confederacy the best of luck in their future endeavours.

Your victory today will form a small but nonetheless important element of our global triumph over the forces of groupthinking socialism tomorrow. Carry on your good work, with our thanks.

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OOC: Whatever happened to the land war with the Infinite Crucible? Military Intelligence and BMI need to be able to file a report and document the outcome of the operational successes and failures of our technology, specifically our flagship armored unit, theA7V Peacemaker (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=444410), in IC's operation.

\OOC: Whatever happened to the land war with the Infinite Crucible? Military Intelligence and BMI need to be able to file a report and document the outcome of the operational successes and failures of our technology, specifically our flagship armored unit, theA7V Peacemaker (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=444410), in IC's operation.[/QUOTE]

OOC: No idea, I liked that RP too.

OOC: I would like to point out to those complaining OOCly, that he's declaring victory. Doesn't mean that he actually achieved it.

Undershi City, Undershi Province, The Undershi Empire

IIS Colonel Yursuf Schmidt watched the victory parade on one of the screens in the deep bunkers bellow the city. 50,000 Regular Army soldiers marched in perfect lock-step along the city streets, with tanks and IFVs and artillery rolling alongside... Lightnings and Thunderers flew low overhead, causing sonic boom after sonic boom... Crusader and Paladin VTOLs moved slowly through the sky, casting dramatic shadows...
At the front of the parade there was a single Drake MBT. On the front of that MBT stood a tall True Undershi in IIS black - Aleksander Miller, the Leader of the Undershi Empire.
He would claim credit for the victory that the Grifencrest corporation had just declared - he would speak of honor and glory and True Undershi valor... and it would make the crowds cheer, but it would all be lies. The war might have ended with a fairly indecisive CA win, but it was not a real victory... the situation brought to mind the post-World War One situation, where both sides believed they had won... and everyone knew how that had turned out. World War Two.
Yursuf cursed, and turned off the screen - some officers would be getting drunk on victory tonight, himself not included... but they'd all be back to work tommorrow, planning for the next war...

IC

An angry intelligence agent in some bunker in People's Republic Of Hurtful Thoughts drops a decomisioned spy satallite upon the marching Undershi troops.

Then a telegram was sent:

Undershi:
"Erm, excuse me, but we have reason to belive one of our malfunctioning satallites has enter your country, we are sorry for any trouble this may have caused your people."

PS: please return whatever is left of it
They didn't even bother signing it, or addressing it to or from anyone in particular...
As if implying, that they honestly didn't care. In fact, nothing on the envolope looked as if it came from PROHT

OOC:
Could...
Not...
Resist...
Temptation...

OOC: Ah... you do know of course that we'd know who owned that satelite, and that we'd go to war with you if you did that, don't you? I'm giving you a chance to un-do that, or the second phase of the war could come sooner than any but the most pessimistic people predicted...

OOC: Ah... you do know of course that we'd know who owned that satelite, and that we'd go to war with you if you did that, don't you? I'm giving you a chance to un-do that, or the second phase of the war could come sooner than any but the most pessimistic people predicted...


...and I would in turn come out of isolation and go to war with you. Think about it: Me and PROHT vs. you.

OOC: Ah... you do know of course that we'd know who owned that satelite, and that we'd go to war with you if you did that, don't you? I'm giving you a chance to un-do that, or the second phase of the war could come sooner than any but the most pessimistic people predicted...

They did say they were sorry, and the rogue actions of a fairly disgruntled (and now dead) employee should not make the nation accountable, though my nation, for political reasons, is being generous.

It was a rather small satallite, the pieces that would hit the ground would be no bigger than a laptop or computer tower.

Its not like I dropped a rod from god or skylab on you.

...and I would in turn come out of isolation and go to war with you. Think about it: Me and PROHT vs. you.

You and PROHT vs. Undershi, me, Blackhelm, the rest of the active CA, and whatever allies they each try to bring in. And whatever you try to bring in. This time, however, you would be the attackers. :p

Really, do we want to start another World War Griffincrest?

Zukariaa;11897458']You and PROHT vs. Undershi, me, Blackhelm, the rest of the active CA, and whatever allies they each try to bring in. And whatever you try to bring in. This time, however, you would be the attackers. :p

Really, do we want to start another World War Griffincrest?

Then why are we even considering this?

Tiberius also reminded the CA members that the war would need to be fought on smaller scale conflicts, such as that in Khornate Tribes and in New Africa, but for now, the main bulk of conflict has ended.

Especially when the satallite thing was an IC farce...
Take a few steps back and look at the lighter side of the RP...
Just try to read that post (after reading only the first paragraph of your own) aloud without laughing, stopping, or smiling.
(has sort of a Monty Pythons Flying Circus charm to it... Especially if the theme song happened to be playing at the time [culminates with the main character getting stomped with what can only be assumed to be the foot of god])

*PROHT shoots himself in the foot with his own IGNORE cannon*
I finally get to use that darned contraption, at least it works...

Then why are we even considering this?



Especially when the satallite thing was an IC farce...
Take a few steps back and look at the lighter side of the RP...
Just try to read that post (after reading only the first paragraph of your own) aloud without laughing, stopping, or smiling.

1) How is anyone supposed to know it was some random angry guy?
2) I would consider my parades being hit by a satellite an act of war, no matter what you tried to convince me of.

*PROHT shoots himself in foot with ignore cannon again, apparently the first shell failed*

"Hope that one worked"

*reloads, just in case*

Oh well, if they won't let me shoot off me own foot then I might as well kick someone's dog with it...

PROHT satallites also fall from the sky all the time, mostly to make room for their replacement, as my nation has no way of servicing or safely removing them.
(It is also cheaper - for me at least)

OOC: Okay, I get the joke. Let's hope we don't have another round of fighting soon, eh? Sorry about not getting it initially... Zukariaa, thanks. You're a loyal ally. The CA will stand together!

It's an obscure Monty Python joke...

So I guess anybody who wasn't lucky enough to see [Monty Python's Flying Circus (or any decent parody of it)] could easily fail to see the slapstick comedy value.

For my next impersonation, The Three Stooges, followed by the Marx Brothers and Charlie Chaplan...

Summary: space, rod from god, feet, hero crushed at end/climax for almost no apparent reason, God's feet are meant for walking, and that is what they'll do....

"You sir, attack me with that bannana!"
"Why?"
"Don't ask why... ATTACK!!"
"Arrrrrrrrrrrrr!"
[Bang]
"You shot him"
"He was attacking me with a bannana!"

You, attack me with that orange!"
"No! You'll shoot me!"
"I promise I won't shoot you, if it'll make you feel better I'll put the gun away"
"Alright, that's better... Arrrrrrrrr"
*drops safe on attacker*

OOC: Ah... I get that now... >checks Monty Python DVDs<... ah, that's what you were refering to...

Wait. CA are victorious? Good job mates! :D

Hate to hear that the GASN lost...

Err...wait.

Lost how exactly? :confused:

In all sense, good job.

Other words, this may be a short victory for the CA. This, is your time to recuperate GASN.

The time of war has lifted.

Now a new front arises on my horizon.

Hataria will fall soon enough, and Japan may be granted to it's former claimer.

Wait. CA are victorious? Good job mates! :D

Hate to hear that the GASN lost...

Err...wait.

Lost how exactly? :confused:

In all sense, good job.

Other words, this may be a short victory for the CA. This, is your time to recuperate GASN.

The time of war has lifted.

Now a new front arises on my horizon.

Hataria will fall soon enough, and Japan may be granted to it's former claimer.

It's a claimed victory, like the 'victory' during Korean war...

It's a claimed victory, like the 'victory' during Korean war...

Oh. Makes sense. Kinda like Vietnam as well?

Oh. Makes sense. Kinda like Vietnam as well?

That was a loss.

Well, more of a withdrawl due to lack of popular support.

That was a loss.

Well, more of a withdrawl due to lack of popular support.

Hmm.
"Victory" for the Vietnamese though.