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Let's try to keep the peanut gallery in the main thread to a minimum.

Here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=505071) is a link to the main IC thread; IC posts only in that thread, please.

so yeah...

how can you have high powered lazers in MT/PMT?

without chargin' them, of course.

That, and exactly what type of capacitors are these? I can see that they take the same method as a disposal camera (slow charge, but fast discharge) but you would have to have huge ones that take up alot of space. Also, how can you have lasers that can instantly slice through armour or is even that powerful considering that the mirror would melt at the temperatures you'd be thinking of achieving.

4chan catchphrases aside, I'll point out that power storage and generation means in PMT can be far superior to those of MT-- the laser itself isn't a laser pointer or a chemical laser either, but instead a quantum cascade solid state laser (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_cascade_laser).

As such it is quite efficient energy-wise and has excellent output. Smaller lasers can be used as well for antiaircraft or antimissile roles, provided you have sufficient power behind them. Against surface targets, lasers are more impractical due to the size of the power source needed, and laser rifles for infantry are of course right out (at those levels chemical explosives are more efficient).

The surface to surface laser gets around the problem of mobility for it's massive laser by simply being stationary (and well protected inside it's mountain) and using the orbital mirror array to direct precision fire onto targets of the controller's choice.

You may also be interested to know that the JSF will be fitted with lasers (http://www.you.com.au/news/1275.htm) in a few years.

edit: The capacitors are made out of superconductors, which can store a great deal of electrical energy-- most capacitor systems in my military are made out of them. Superconductor stacks are quite efficient. Space is not a problem in any case as I have the entire inside of a mountain (and the excavated areas below) to work with. No need to miniturize when you arn't making the thing portable, after all.


Dephire, that's a bit of a misconception you're operating under-- heat transfer from the beam itself is minimal at best since pretty much ALL of the energy is deflected. The only way the mirror would melt is due to heat transfer from substances surrounding it-- such as, if the mirror were in atmosphere, the air surrounding the mirror when the laser hits it, which would tend to disperse the heat too fast for it to be a problem.

However, as the mirrors are in space, this isn't a problem.

I don't buy into the lasers that can cut through ships...

I don't buy into the lasers that can cut through ships...

Why not? Given adequate power supply, a laser can be built with an almost arbitrarily large power output.

Having a weapon that can destroy pretty much whatever you want without hardly having to lift a finger does not strike me as being reasonable.

Having a weapon that can destroy pretty much whatever you want without hardly having to lift a finger does not strike me as being reasonable.

Weapons generally arn't intended to be fair and balanced. Them's the breaks.


Dephire, the first shot was a warning shot, fired across the water in front of your fleet-- didn't hit anything with the first shot.

Should the fleet choose to ignore my warning, I'll fire again, this time directly.

Nobody other than you thinks your weapon belongs in this thread. It will be ignored by me.

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Nobody other than you thinks your weapon belongs in this thread. It will be ignored by me.

It's rather juvenile to ignore something when it's been clearly explained how it works in detail, simply because you find it "unfair".

It's rather juvenile to ignore something when it's been clearly explained how it works in detail, simply because you find it "unfair".

Well, I think it is juvenile to try to play God in other people's threads. I also think it is juvenile to stubbornly insist your weapon be permitted when everyone objects to it. Most importantly, I think the fusion reactor, uber capacitors, and retractable mountain tops you are using to justify your weapon are all nonsense.

For the record, I also think it is juvenile to use your signature to mock another player.

Um... when the US came out with the atomic bomb, Japan didn't say, "WTF dude an explosive that's 100 times stronger than any existing one and can be carried in a suitcase? That is not possible. IGNORED." Or if it did, history has failed to record that moment.

Question though, is this thread MT or PMT? If it's PMT, AN's stuff is PMT, so you should allow him in. If it's MT, then you'll have to exclude Hataria as well, because he's PMT. You know.... seriously!

Um... when the US came out with the atomic bomb, Japan didn't say, "WTF dude an explosive that's 100 times stronger than any existing one and can be carried in a suitcase? That is not possible. IGNORED." Or if it did, history has failed to record that moment.

Question though, is this thread MT or PMT? If it's PMT, AN's stuff is PMT, so you should allow him in. If it's MT, then you'll have to exclude Hataria as well, because he's PMT. You know.... seriously!

Dios Mio, there is a difference between real life and NationStates.

Actually, not necessarily, Czardas. It depends how far into PMT. PMT is a very broad area, sometimes nearing FT. Now, I'm not openly joining this little argument, but I'm just stating this. If some of the players feel that AN's tech is a little too high-PMT for them, then so be it, since high-PMT and low-PMT are usually quite incompatible. It is their right, after all.

Greater Morocco; you have a Hatarian army attacking you from The east, so your little "Invasion" will have to go to Defense, and there are Warplanes in Algeria so you Military attack is doomed from The start.

Greater Morocco; you have a Hatarian army attacking you from The east, so your little "Invasion" will have to go to Defense, and there are Warplanes in Algeria so you Military attack is doomed from The start.

You are aware he bailed out of that little conflict right?

Greater Morocco, you'll have to call for futher defense as 6,000,000 Army Troops are attempting to flank you from the south and 600 air force bombers are attempting to bomb your major cities/military bases.

At least, it's gonna be like that pretty soon.

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Greater Morocco; you have a Hatarian army attacking you from The east, so your little "Invasion" will have to go to Defense, and there are Warplanes in Algeria so you Military attack is doomed from The start.

As far as I am concerned, we both have troops at amassed at our border. I haven't invaded you. You haven't invaded me.

Greater Morocco, you'll have to call for futher defense as 6,000,000 Army Troops are attempting to flank you from the south and 600 air force bombers are attempting to bomb your major cities/military bases.

At least, it's gonna be like that pretty soon.


Understood. There are six nations, who haven't been in this thread yet, who have forces in or near my nation. They will probably want to try to protect me. As soon as I finish writing this post, I am going to telegram those guys so we can get your bomber strikes resolved.

I should warn you that I don't intend to role-play being surprised. My nation is mobilized for war, and we know you are on friendly terms with Hataria. When your bombers start flying through Hataria, we won't be fooled into thinking you are attacking them.

Regarding the 6,000,000 men you are sending... That could be lights out for me. Some of my allies are pretty big, but I don't know if they are willing to spend the resources required to defend my dinky nation against that many people. I do have one thing going for me though... Your ground forces will have to cross most of Africa, and you aren't taking the most direct route. Unless you go through Hataria, you will be arriving in the Sahara desert. You will have 6 million men in the desert with a very long supply line, which I intend to try to cut. Of course, I could very well be conquered by Hataria long before your men arrive.

Regarding technology...

If this thread is MT-PMT, it seems the PMT tech should more closely resemble MT than FT.

Xharn,

You have troops in my nation. Automagfreek may as well. I think those are the only people with troops in my nation. Some other people may have aircraft carriers near my coast.


This is all the military equipment I've been given:
100,000 advanced infantry packages (leafanistan military store)
100 Freedom Fighter Infantry Packages (Pudu military store)
500 Predator Heavy Battle Tanks
1,500, M1 Abrams Main Battle Tanks
500, M113 Armored Personel Carriers with 12,000 Infantry Troops.
50, M270 Multiple Launch Rocket System to suppliment artillery
2 Aircraft Carriers loaded with personel and aircraft such as the
F/A-18E/F Super Hornet, F/A-18 Hornet, and some F-14 Tomcats.
8 Destroyers
1 Virginia Class Submarine and 2 Los Angeles class submarines
2,000 Kodiak Main Battle Tanks
4,000 Gorilla Infantry Fighting Vehicles
200,000 G-11A2 Assault Rifles
20,000 Merlin Integrated Missile systems
300,000 AK-47 Assault Rifles
300,000 Fragmentation Grenades
200,000 RPG-7 Rocket-propelled Grenade Launchers
100,000 IMI Uzi Submachine Guns
60,000 Sagia-12 Shotguns
30,000 Gragunov SVD Sniper Rifles
30,000 Browning M2HB Heavy Machine Guns
20,000 60mm M2 Mortars
2,000 Modified Ford Pickup Trucks (armored fueld tank plus heavy machine gun)
2,000 Anti-Personnel Mines
1,000 Anti-Tank Mines
1,000 Javelin Shoulder-Fired Anti-Tank Missile Launchers
1,000 FIM-92 Stinger Shoulder-Fired Anti-Aircraft Missiles Launchers
500 M813A1 5-Ton Trucks
500 2PU-4 Anti-aircraft Artillery Pieces
200 M777A1 Lightweight Field Howitzers
10 Tons C4 Plastique High Explosives
1 350 kiloton nuclear bomb
bunch of mustard gas

I think I will need to tone it down because I doubt I could afford to maintain all that stuff.

I am thus obligated to fight against the Empire of Hataria. I have sworn to defend Greater Morocco from her enemies. I must honor the deal and hold off Hataria's invasion.

hehe the list of stuff people gave me kinda cracks me up...

I'm trying to imagine a bunch of mujahadeen manning an aircraft carrier hehe

Icovir, you and Hataria both wanted to bomb my nation. You posted first, but his nation is closer, so it is hard to say which should be resolved first. Essentially, all the AA fire and fighters in the air would treat you the same way as Hataria's bombers.

I have sent Hataria's troops along the border enough napalm to burn them into hell..

hehe

Greater Morocco, Hataria has over a million men in this conflict? I may need to call in the Death Korps for help..

Of the stuff people gave me, I figure the aircraft carriers would have been mothballed in some port (too expensive to operate).

At the border, I will have:

250 2PU-4 Anti Aircraft Pieces
10,000 assorted mines
500 Stinger Missiles
500 Javelin Missiles
200 Lightweight Field Howitzers
700 Abrams Tanks
50 MLRS
400 Modified Ford Pickups w/ 50 caliber machineguns
500 Predator Heavy Battle Tanks (in reserve)
500 M113 Armored Personnel Carriers (in reserve)
80,000 Regular Soldiers w/ good equipment
20,000 Mujahadeen w/ insurgent caliber equipment
20,000 Regular Soldiers w/ good equipment (in reserve)
500 camels
500 horses

Overview of my forces heading towards the border....



100,000 Infantry
5000 Armored Fist soldiers
1,000 Xharnian "Special Forces" Rangers
90 Chimera APC
2,000 Predator Heavy Battle Tanks
40 mortar teams
40 Whirlwind Missile Tanks
35 Sentinel Walkers
45 Bolter Artillery Pieces

Regarding the 6,000,000 men you are sending... That could be lights out for me. Some of my allies are pretty big, but I don't know if they are willing to spend the resources required to defend my dinky nation against that many people.

The AMF government has no problem with sending in enough troops to slaughter 10 times that amount. Let's not forget that The Kraven Corporation's military losses against me when we fought were well in the millions, with hundreds of millions in civilian casualties (I target indiscriminately).

Fear not, Damien will make a statement soon.

I think the easiest way to kill Icovir's 6,000,000 men is to wait until they are in the middle of the Sahara then target their supply lines. His men will need around 18 million gallons of water a day to survive in the desert, and their won't be any rivers remotely nearby.

Here is a geographical map:


http://www.mapsofworld.com/physical-map/maps/africa-continent-physical-map.jpg

The AMF government has no problem with sending in enough troops to slaughter 10 times that amount. Let's not forget that The Kraven Corporation's military losses against me when we fought were well in the millions, with hundreds of millions in civilian casualties (I target indiscriminately).

Fear not, Damien will make a statement soon.

Thank you for coming btw. If it isn't too much trouble, maybe we could evict Icovir from Africa too. Of course, by "we", I really mean you two :D

You know how does Hataria have 1 million men to spare when he or she keeps throwing them at every conflict he or she sees?

Dunno. I haven't been following Hataria's other battles.

Icovir, it looks like all the fighters were sent after Hataria's bombers...

My border AA defenses are:
500 AA Artillery Pieces
400 Stinger AA Missiles (assuming 100 were fired at Hataria already)
Plus Xharn's AA

Remaning AA defenses scatter around major cities and military targets
500 AA Artillery Pieces
500 Stinger AA Missiles

Just lemme know how many of your bombers made it to their targets and what kind of bombers they were, and I'll post damage.

I'll be ignoring Greater Morroco's attacks in this conflict, since he isn't being reasonable. Dephire, I'll get back to you when your'e online once I've worked up a deployment plan for the stuff I have stationed in Hataria itself.

I don't know why you're freaking out so much anyways, Greater Morroco... the laser, for obvious reasons, is best used against stationary surface targets and ships. Due to the number of various targets a land army has, and how spread out it can be, it's not well suited for such a task.

In any case, I have no plans of using it in this conflict to directly strike the nations of aggressors (except for any location that fires upon the satellite network, myself, or Hataria, of course).

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=386733 My tech thread. Feel free to ask any questions.

The 9th Airborne will be flying to the largest air battle and concentration of ground troops currently assaulting Hataria, and the Sand Devil squadrons that are transporting the land forces will be transiting across the channel between Western Hataria and Mainland Hataria, arriving on Western Hataria's shores in a few hours.

The channel itself, of course, is heavily fortified and mined. I would advise against intrusion.

(ooc: Do you have MSN or AIM?)

OOC: Yes, I got AIM. Why? You need to talk to me about something.

And I’m going to wait until others post attacks on your space mirrors because I know everybody will want to take them out.

What do you mean by Dominion orbital bases? Are you taking about bases on Earth? Or space station in orbit?

Space stations in this instance. BTW, your allies should keep in mind that the ball bearings I just spread across a number of orbits will last for a number of hours, and perforate most anything on that orbital plane.

Also, yeah, I want to have you on AIM in case we need to clarify anything to each other.

Also, yeah, I want to have you on AIM in case we need to clarify anything to each other.

OOC: Ah, well I can just clarify anything here because it will be the same as IM.

But this is the only thing I’m not liking. I was reading through the weapons thread and came across the Minuteman.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10655957&postcount=33

That’s is not what you are using against me, is it? Because that is a mobile suit, which is FT not PMT.

OOC: Ah, well I can just clarify anything here because it will be the same as IM.

But this is the only thing I’m not liking. I was reading through the weapons thread and came across the Minuteman.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10655957&postcount=33

That’s is not what you are using against me, is it? Because that is a mobile suit, which is FT not PMT.

Look at the dimensions. It's powered armor, not a mobile suit-- the thing is only about 11 feet tall.

Look at the dimensions. It's powered armor, not a mobile suit-- the thing is only about 11 feet tall.

Well, it will still take hours to get them prepared for space and battle. And still I would not want to be in one of them.

OOC: IT WASN"T A NUCLEAR WARHEAD ON THAT MISSILE! I said "Far deadlier then a Nuclear Warhead" guess what is more deadly then a Nuke?

A bigger nuke? Or, I suppose some sort of biological weapon.

Icovir, it looks like all the fighters were sent after Hataria's bombers...

My border AA defenses are:
500 AA Artillery Pieces
400 Stinger AA Missiles (assuming 100 were fired at Hataria already)
Plus Xharn's AA

Remaning AA defenses scatter around major cities and military targets
500 AA Artillery Pieces
500 Stinger AA Missiles

Just lemme know how many of your bombers made it to their targets and what kind of bombers they were, and I'll post damage.

Ok, I launched about 300 bombers to your country.

I plan for you to shoot down 150 of them, with 100 reaching their target (military bases) and 50 retreating. None reached any major cities.

A bigger nuke? Or, I suppose some sort of biological weapon.


Nope..............BIO WEAPON!

Keep in mind that this is actually just an interest-like thread. It's like, "What would happen if I did this...?" right Hataria?

You didn't say what you were firing, so I had to guess in order to post damage. I am not rewriting my post. Feel free to launch bio weapons at one of my other cities.

Keep in mind that this is actually just an interest-like thread. It's like, "What would happen if I did this...?" right Hataria?

What are you talking about? The way you wanted this war to happen by talking with the Count was for real, this is not an interest-like thread. You wanted to okay to attack Hataria and I gave you that okay through the Count.

Keep in mind that this is actually just an interest-like thread. It's like, "What would happen if I did this...?" right Hataria?

Yep..oh........dephire...can you get on MSN Messenger soon.....like right now.

I'm about to officially declare war on you (Greater Morocco) pretty soon. So, ignore what I said in the IC thread about you not being able to know where my troops are. Just know that I have fighters flying along with my troops.

I'm not using all my fighters, though. I'm using some to guard Icovir from air attacks.

Hmm. Oh well, sorry Hataria. Looks like this is for real.
And no, I can't get on MSN...I'm not even supposed to be online. Hehehe.:p

BTW, Trans...the usage of nuclear weapons against space stations and satellites is alright...right?

Nope..............BIO WEAPON!

Not a smart move.....

Well, it will still take hours to get them prepared for space and battle. And still I would not want to be in one of them.

O_o No it wouldn't. I have some stationed in space already if you're referring to the Space Types deployed-- as a matter of fact, the Minuteman Space Type is produced in space, as it's also used as an armored spacesuit for maintaining the vast profusion of orbital junk I have.

As for the land based versions, they arn't all that difficult to maintain, and all that's required to get 'em going is to hop in, seal up, start up, get your equipment, and move on out.

I'm about to officially declare war on you (Greater Morocco) pretty soon. So, ignore what I said in the IC thread about you not being able to know where my troops are. Just know that I have fighters flying along with my troops.

I'm not using all my fighters, though. I'm using some to guard Icovir from air attacks.

Icovir, I'm going to help GM there by hitting you from the east. I'm going to send a massive fleet toward you, and send bombers. So lets get the maps out and remember that this is a sneak attack.

BTW, Trans...the usage of nuclear weapons against space stations and satellites is alright...right?

Yes, that is clear as long as there is not any human lives in harm‘s way.

Icovir, I'm going to help GM there by hitting you from the east. I'm going to send a massive fleet toward you, and send bombers. So lets get the maps out and remember that this is a sneak attack.

Crap, I hate you :D

O_o No it wouldn't. I have some stationed in space already if you're referring to the Space Types deployed-- as a matter of fact, the Minuteman Space Type is produced in space, as it's also used as an armored spacesuit for maintaining the vast profusion of orbital junk I have.

No, what I mean was that this men are not always in their suits. If they were, they are a god-mode. No human would stay in something like for a long time.

Well, Greater Morocco is well, Doomed.

With My Army attacking his and one Bio attack......his Govenment shoudl be falling apart.

and I am going to ask Demon 666 for Peace.

No, what I mean was that this men are not always in their suits. If they were, they are a god-mode. No human would stay in something like for a long time.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9748368&postcount=1

I utilize an almost identical 'tracing system' for the internals of the Minuteman as Bretton does, along with similar logistics capabilities (the original Minuteman prototype was actually purchased from him and further developed by myself as explained in the Minuteman's profile); the only major changes are those involving the different shape of the Minuteman.

It's not like they're wedged in there with bare metal; it's actually quite comfortable.

If you have big balls, you can get away with sleeping inside one, since no one outside can tell unless they try to talk to you >_>

Standard operation time is usually 12-16 hours at most, but can be as much as three days in a pinch for land-use models and one day for space-use models (lower endurance due to oxygen).

These three days, of course, are the amount of time a man could stay in the suit comfortably, provided the batteries are recharged or replaced when neccesary.

Well, Greater Morocco is well, Doomed.

With My Army attacking his and one Bio attack......his Govenment shoudl be falling apart.

and I am going to ask Demon 666 for Peace.

I will be doomed if you don't ever post damage from my attacks.

Well, Greater Morocco is well, Doomed.

With My Army attacking his and one Bio attack......his Govenment shoudl be falling apart.

and I am going to ask Demon 666 for Peace.



Read my new post.

You have dozens upon dozens of VX rockets coming your way, along with a score of naval, aerial, and ground fire.

No, what I mean was that this men are not always in their suits. If they were, they are a god-mode. No human would stay in something like for a long time.



I wouldn't worry about it. I took on Kraven's Sardaukar, and with some know-how defeated them. I'm willing to bet that Axis Nova's suits are not nearly as complex and hard to penetrate as Kraven's.

meh, I decided against declaring war publicily against GM so that nobody knows I am attacking him besides Hataria (whom I've told) and anyone else GM manages to radio before I destroy more radar stations.

meh, I decided against declaring war publicily against GM so that nobody knows I am attacking him besides Hataria (whom I've told) and anyone else GM manages to radio before I destroy more radar stations.

GM gave me a telegram as soon as this happened so we know. That an a major conflict involing millions of men and biological weapons isnt' going to go unnoticed.

Also the turning back of that many men will take weeks to arrive back at their posts and my naval forces will be there very soon.

I also think that retreat is on the line of using OOC information for IC movements.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=9748368&postcount=1

I utilize an almost identical 'tracing system' for the internals of the Minuteman as Bretton does, along with similar logistics capabilities (the original Minuteman prototype was actually purchased from him and further developed by myself as explained in the Minuteman's profile); the only major changes are those involving the different shape of the Minuteman.

It's not like they're wedged in there with bare metal; it's actually quite comfortable.

If you have big balls, you can get away with sleeping inside one, since no one outside can tell unless they try to talk to you >_>

Standard operation time is usually 12-16 hours at most, but can be as much as three days in a pinch for land-use models and one day for space-use models (lower endurance due to oxygen).

These three days, of course, are the amount of time a man could stay in the suit comfortably, provided the batteries are recharged or replaced when neccesary.

Well, you got me there. Well played, I write a post in a little bit. And you are wasting human lives, my station are unmanned.

I wouldn't worry about it. I took on Kraven's Sardaukar, and with some know-how defeated them. I'm willing to bet that Axis Nova's suits are not nearly as complex and hard to penetrate as Kraven's.

True, I find a way to get them. Can you spare some of your space stuff? I could use the help up there. We need to take those space mirriors out.

True, I find a way to get them. Can you spare some of your space stuff? I could use the help up there. We need to take those space mirriors out.

I don't have space stuff.

I would suggest just using kinetic missiles against them. Ball bearings aren't going to stop a tungsten or DU rod with a rocket booster on it.

I don't have space stuff.

I would suggest just using kinetic missiles against them. Ball bearings aren't going to stop a tungsten or DU rod with a rocket booster on it.

Thanks, I was thinking of ways to take them out.

Icovir, everyone knows you are at war with me. You've bombed my nation already, and anyone with spy satellites or intelligence agencies worth a squat knows you have millions of men crossing the Sahara.

Scratch that... Even nations with no spy satellites or intelligence agencies know you are coming. When millions of your troops start passing through neighboring nations to get to me, every news network in the world would cover that story.

Just before I land, I'm going to deploy a sex bomb on Icovir's shores. It contains an agent that destroys the filters in gas masks and slowly eats away at rubber. It can only be defeated by a full HAZMAT suit with a synthetic outer shell and independent air tanks or a very complex air filter.

It'll drive anyone who is in contact with the initial 'rain' to become hornier than many would think possible, driving them to an obsessive need for sexual gratification. Bestiality, homosexual sex, masturbation are all consequences of the weapon.

It can persist in the environment for up to 36 hours but rapidly decomposes after that. The initial Marine landing will be with special forces equipped with these full suits and it is their job to secure the beachhead for another 14 hours so that once the chemical decomposes, traditional NBC suits with normal gas masks will be able to function.

However, there will be a marked rise in the need for sex for a week after exposure, and weaker reactions for those who are exposed after the initial 36 hour period.

LOL, is this a real bomb? :D

Well, you got me there. Well played, I write a post in a little bit. And you are wasting human lives, my station are unmanned.

Yeah, but IC, I don't know that.

Icovir, everyone knows you are at war with me. You've bombed my nation already, and anyone with spy satellites or intelligence agencies worth a squat knows you have millions of men crossing the Sahara.

Scratch that... Even nations with no spy satellites or intelligence agencies know you are coming. When millions of your troops start passing through neighboring nations to get to me, every news network in the world would cover that story.

Crap, that's true. I may cease attacks on you, though, in order to intercept Leafanistan, which is why I want to hold off from official war for now...

I wouldn't worry about it. I took on Kraven's Sardaukar, and with some know-how defeated them. I'm willing to bet that Axis Nova's suits are not nearly as complex and hard to penetrate as Kraven's.

Given their absurdly low weight, .50 caliber SLAP should be able to penetrate most portions of the suit, 40mm HEDP grenades shouldn't have any problem at all. Going up from infantry weapons, 30+mm AP or HEAT rounds should also be more than capable of piercing the armor. Apart from that, DPICM artillery is always fun, as are land mines.


[after I decided to double check my claims by making armor calcs]
Assuming for the purpose of figuring stuff out that the armor is composed of RHA (density of 287lb/in^3, kudos to Mac), and that only the front and the back are armored, and that no more than half of its maximum weight of 6.32 tons is armor, then we have a volume of 22 inches of armor. Spread equally along front and back (and assuming it is 1.5 meters wide), we have an average thickness of 30.8132827 microns.

Actually, you could penetrate the armor by throwing hamsters at it. Might need fat hamsters, but hamsters should do it.

Go away, Rosdivan.


OK, I'm starting to get a bit confused here. o.x Who is attacking Hataria itself directly, and where, and who is in the colonies?

Some Questions:

Transylvania, what territory or nation do you occupy that is in Europe?

Automag, same question.

Also, any other allies...do you have any territory in Russia, because I'm thinking about having my land forces march through there, into Europe, and then further into Germany-to-France-to-Spain.

I don't have any territory in Russia, but I do own Turkey and Greece.

Transylvania, what territory or nation do you occupy that is in Europe?

Albania, Armenia, Austria, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Bosnia & Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Croatia, Czech Republic, Estonia, Georgia [the country, not the state], Germany, Gibraltar, Greece, Hungary, Italy, Jordan, Latvia, Lebanon, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Macedonia, Malta, Moldova, Poland, Romania, San Marino, Serbia & Montenegro, Slovakia, Slovenia, Switzerland, Syria, Turkey, Ukraine, and Western Russia [Northwest Russia, Southwest Russia and Central West Russia]

All of that in the real Europe.

Actually, you could penetrate the armor by throwing hamsters at it. Might need fat hamsters, but hamsters should do it.
Please, please, please ... somebody spec out and draw up the Fat Hampster Grenade Launcher.


Hehehe ....

Go away, Rosdivan.

Personally I think my math is off somehow. You're welcome to check it, and I'd appreciate any corrections. I'm not a math major, and my friend who actually likes math isn't online right now.

Icovir please post whta kind of equipment you are using, class of ships and fighters, etc.

And stats if they aren't available.

OK, I'm starting to get a bit confused here. o.x Who is attacking Hataria itself directly, and where, and who is in the colonies?

I’m attacking Spain. And you in space!

I am attacking Icovir's bombers, Hataria's sub, and Hataria's air fields (all near Morocco).

I am attacking Icovir's bombers, Hataria's sub, and Hataria's air fields (all near Morocco).

As a new nation I seriously advise you to be careful your playing with bigger nations now.

I'm attacking Icovir directly, though I can't tell exactly what I'm attacking as he is too vague.

I HAVE HAD IT! I GIVE UP!

I AM AUTISTIC AND I DONT LIKE DOGPILES! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism)

Transylvania, I would assume that with so many countries...I can safely bet that I would have a safe passage all the way to France by land, eh?

Oh, and would nuclear weapons be okay for anti-satellite weapons..considering the fact that they are useful more-so that way than any other and there is no nuclear fallout?

Dogpiles? It was you and Icovir that originally double teamed on a nation that only has 18 million people. I think so far it has been a fair fight.

o.x :headbang:

I HAVE HAD IT! I GIVE UP!

I AM AUTISTIC AND I DONT LIKE DOGPILES! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism)

Hataria, in a situation like this, you have two options. One, you can go down swinging, and hope for the best, or two, you can surrender, and hope for the best.

I HAVE HAD IT! I GIVE UP!

I AM AUTISTIC AND I DONT LIKE DOGPILES! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism)

I'VE HAD IT! I REFUSE TO SURRENDER!

I HAVE RESTLESS LEGS SYNDROME AND I'M KINDA HUNGRY. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Restless_legs_syndrome)

Transylvania, I would assume that with so many countries...I can safely bet that I would have a safe passage all the way to France by land, eh?

Yup, you will get safe passage all the way to France by land from the edge of western Russia. I will have some of my military escort yours across the land. You know warn my civilians to stay out of the path of your forces and etc.

At Hataria: You have allies, go call them to your help. I'm attacking you like Dephire, for your nuclear bombs tests that you random picked a number for to have the test. Your first one or second one hit France.

Who's surprised?

Cool. Alright, someone needs to reply to my posts or even mention noticeing them.

Well well, if it was me in Hatarias situation I would prefer to go down swinging its dignafied and respected.

How about we all pause for a minute to give Hataria time to catch up? He has a lot of damage to post. After they catch up, we can offer terms for surrender.

That's what you get for declaring war on 20m nations~

Cool. Alright, someone needs to reply to my posts or even mention noticeing them.


Same here...

Technically I'm attacking only Icovir, I didn't really have plans to move on Hataria. I was relying on someone else to do it for me.

That's what you get for declaring war on 20m nations~

I *had* 20 million people very briefly. :D

Hataria wasn't actually losing all that badly from where I stand. I propose we adjourn until we see if he calms down and comes back or actually does leave o.x

[03:54:23 PM] Clint The Su: I give up
[03:54:50 PM] Berrik: ?
[03:55:01 PM] Clint The Su: I am Giveing up on NS
[03:55:08 PM] Berrik: don't do that :P
[03:55:10 PM] Clint The Su: I always get DOgpiled
[03:55:22 PM] Clint The Su: called Godmoder and Noob
[03:57:04 PM] Clint The Su: I am Autistic

I agree that we should put this on hold and allow Hataria time to calm down, as well as catch up on posts.

Also, Hataria...why are you retreating????
Does this mean that I can finally have Spain???

He is retreating from Algeria to Spain. In which I’m attacking. Strange move.

How about we all pause for a minute to give Hataria time to catch up? He has a lot of damage to post. After they catch up, we can offer terms for surrender.

I say that sounds like a good deal. Everybody lets take a coffee break or something.

I agree that we should put this on hold and allow Hataria time to calm down, as well as catch up on posts.

Yes, I agree too. We need to have nobody else hop in on our side. We got enough help as we need.

Hataria needs to call his allies in to help. I know you got some.

oh hey we both posted at 4:20 http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c140/berrik/Smileys/emot-350-1.gif

Thread has stalled because Hataria has pulled out.

P.S.: He is autistic

Autism doesn't mean that he suddenly cannot be held accountable for his actions. He knows darn well what he's doing, and he made the decision to use biological weapons on his own.

Autism doesn't mean that he suddenly cannot be held accountable for his actions. He knows darn well what he's doing, and he made the decision to use biological weapons on his own.

I was trying to sound ridiculous and sarcastic, I did have a post mocking his 'OH GOD DOGPILES AND AUTISM MAKE ME :( . Apparently my poor satire skills have failed me yet agian.

Yes, I agree too. We need to have nobody else hop in on our side. We got enough help as we need.

Hataria needs to call his allies in to help. I know you got some.

Ok. There are a couple more nations I am expecting to join on my behalf. I will send them telegrams to let them know the situation is under control.

Ok. There are a couple more nations I am expecting to join on my behalf. I will send them telegrams to let them know the situation is under control.

Yup, it looks like he is heading to Spain now. Leaving you alone, for now.

Yup, it looks like he is heading to Spain now. Leaving you alone, for now.

So anyone want to throw some Long-range bombers at Icovir to support my landings? If we can sever several major cities and beseige them, we can sue for peace and get Icovir removed from the action.

Autism doesn't mean that he suddenly cannot be held accountable for his actions. He knows darn well what he's doing, and he made the decision to use biological weapons on his own.

I didn't take a biological attack. When that attack was posted, he just said he was shooting an uber missile at my capital. I had no idea what he was using, so I role-played my capital as being instantly destroyed. Afterwards, he said he wanted a biological attack. I said I didn't feel like rewriting my post, and suggested he pick another city of mine to use bioweapons on.

Basically, I took the effects of a powerful nuke...

How big is this city?

If one missile took it out that would mean it would have to be a equipped with some serious firepower...

Autism is a sad, sad thing :(

So, is the war still stalled? Because if so, I would've never attacked GM, which means that Leafanistan wouldn't have attacked me, and Automagfreek and Xharn (I think) wouldn't have planned to attack me.

Icovir, my forces are advancing into Algeria. I don't have anything to reach you except my fleet based in Greater Morocco waters.

Ahh, ok.

I'll refrain from posting until Hataria decides whether or not he wants to continue this war.

If he doesn't, then I'll pretend that the war with GM or it's effects never happened. That means that I'll have all 29,106,000 troops freed up for war somewhere else.

Crap, looks likeI'm gonna have to find war somewhere else...

Ahh, ok.

I'll refrain from posting until Hataria decides whether or not he wants to continue this war.

If he doesn't, then I'll pretend that the war with GM or it's effects never happened. That means that I'll have all 29,106,000 troops freed up for war somewhere else.

Crap, looks likeI'm gonna have to find war somewhere else...

*Chesire Cat Grin*

Ahh, ok.

I'll refrain from posting until Hataria decides whether or not he wants to continue this war.

If he doesn't, then I'll pretend that the war with GM or it's effects never happened. That means that I'll have all 29,106,000 troops freed up for war somewhere else.

Crap, looks likeI'm gonna have to find war somewhere else...

You can invade Saharistan. Though I kinda dug a massive defensive trench because someone else tried the same thing.

You can invade Saharistan. Though I kinda dug a massive defensive trench because someone else tried the same thing.

lol, I'll invade anyone as long as it doesn't involve me losing land if I lose.

I find it amusing how he tells us he's autistic after he decides to quit.

I've gotta read his post. I thought you guys were kidding when you said he was autistic...

I find it amusing how he tells us he's autistic after he decides to quit.

*Coughhackwheezecoughcoughwheeze* African Axis *Coughhackhackwheezewheezecough*

I'm attacking Icovir directly, though I can't tell exactly what I'm attacking as he is too vague.

Ya, I've gotta be much more specific. I was just vague because I had to get off quickly.

I will not participate in this fight if that would encourage Hataria to continue.

I will not participate in this fight if that would encourage Hataria to continue.

He doesn't want to continue because it's basically:

Hataria, Icovir, & Axis Nova VS. Dephire, Transylvania, Xharn, Greater Morocco, Leafanistan, & AMF

He doesn't want to continue because it's basically:

Hataria & Icovir VS. Dephire, Transylvania, Xharn, Greater Morocco, and some other country that I can't remember.

AMF?!

You forgot Axis Nova on your side as well.

AMF?!

You forgot Axis Nova on your side as well.

lol, ya, Axis Nova and AMF.

I see so many of his (AMF's) posts but I can never remember his name :D

He doesn't want to continue because it's basically:

Hataria & Icovir VS. Dephire, Transylvania, Xharn, Greater Morocco, Leafanistan, and some other country that I can't remember.

And all he has to do is call in the allies that he has. He does have his own alliance. Our side is not going to get bigger.

And he says that he hates dogpiles but I seen him in a dogpile against Blackhelm or a single CA nation.

And he says that he hates dogpiles but I seen him in a dogpile against Blackhelm or a single CA nation.


Lovely double standards, eh?

Lovely double standards, eh?

Quite, quite ol' chap. Let us get a cup of tea and some crumpets.

Well is there a future for this thread?

A spin-off war between one of my colonies Saharistan and Icovir is in the future, along with a possible Dephire and Axis Nova war. If anything, Greater Morocco can keep all my arms shipments.

Lovely double standards, eh?

Ah, well. Since this seems to be dead, would you be interested in doing an RP?

I think Hataria should just surrender his African territory. Then he would only be fighting Dephire and Transylvania.

Lovely double standards, eh?

True!

Ya, me and Axis Nova are on your side as well. I say let's also get some uber strong guy also (like Wanderjar if he was still here).

I have uber powerful allies that can help.

Wanderjar is taking a break from NS and he is member of the Dominion Commonwealth. Meaning if he was this, he would be on my side.

I think Hataria should just surrender his African territory. Then he would only be fighting Dephire and Transylvania.

Sounds like a damn good idea.

EVERYONE JUST FUCK OFF!:upyours:

Sounds like a damn good idea.

Nah, 'cause then imperialists like me would try and take the land, and another war would begin.

Transylvania - You're right. Damn.

Hataria, you were all for the dogpile on me, were you not? Then when it was thrown back, you were stuck trying to defeat my allies while the rest of your allies were reeling, and now that it comes back to bite you in the ass you leave?

Grow up.

I SAID FUCK OFF! I am not your punching bag Any more, You have ruined my RPing for The Last Time! I don't care if The Mods ban me but You guys (save for Axis Nova, Dephire and Icovir) ARE BASTARDS! YOU CAN ALL GO TO HELL!:upyours: :upyours: :upyours: :upyours:


What did I do to get this agaisnt me?

Nobody report this to the mods. Hataria, just chill out. Get your allies and everything will be fine.

No one ruined this RP for you, Hataria. You attack a nation less than 1% your size. That could be considered a dogpile. You have to accept the consequences for your actions, and attacking a nation brings a lot of people to that nations defence.

I SAID FUCK OFF! I am not your punching bag Any more, You have ruined my RPing for The Last Time! I don't care if The Mods ban me but You guys (save for Axis Nova, Dephire and Icovir) ARE BASTARDS! YOU CAN ALL GO TO HELL!:upyours: :upyours: :upyours: :upyours:

The first time you tried to invade me, nearly the same exact same group of nations came to my defense. You chose to attack me again when you didn't have to. So why the complaints when the same nations come to my aid? The "dog pile" outcome should have been easily predictable.

In my little role-play world, your African territory has been conquered. Automagfreek and Xharn own it now.

Zukariaa;11879122']No one ruined this RP for you, Hataria. You attack a nation less than 1% your size. That could be considered a dogpile. You have to accept the consequences for your actions, and attacking a nation brings a lot of people to that nations defence.
quite

if you don't like being invaded, dont do it to others

You guys (save for Axis Nova, Dephire and Icovir) ARE BASTARDS! YOU CAN ALL GO TO HELL!:upyours: :upyours: :upyours: :upyours:

Hey now, I'm just playing the game here mate. You know darn well nothing here is personal, and these childish outbursts are uncalled for.

Hey now, I'm just playing the game here mate. You know darn well nothing here is personal, and these childish outbursts are uncalled for.

*waits for autism excuse*

*and tries to get on AMF's goodside XD*

*waits for autism excuse*

*and tries to get on AMF's goodside XD*

*seconds that move*

Zukariaa;11879160']*seconds that move*

*tries to get on AMF's good side OOC while ICly refusing to kowtow to anyone*

Alright, now I'm about to address something.

Why are some RL things being integrated into NS things?

It's blending OOC with IC, and that's not right.

I will not be reporting anyone, but I will not be pulling out. My forces will still be there until Hataria calms down. In the mean time, we could be focusing on those bastards that thought of assisting him. :D

Awright, if Hataria doesn't want to play anymore, he doesn't want to play.

Everyone go back to your regularly scheduled rps.

Is Dephire going to role-play Hataria's territories now (including Algeria)? I got the impression in the IC thread.

I'm going to take them over. That's all.:p

I'm going to take them over. That's all.:p

Is the war back on?

uh oh Dephire, I smell war... :D

yea, Icovir, war that I'm killing Galmiria?

Is the war back on?

Nope, I don't think so.

Hataria said that it's him vs. Daphire with 1 ally. Dephire chose automagfreek, and Hataria chose Axis Nova.

yea, Icovir, war that I'm killing Galmiria?

lol, that war's still on? Wanderjar said that he's gonna return once he sorts out his real life.

Nope, I don't think so.

Hataria said that it's him vs. Daphire with 1 ally. Dephire chose automagfreek, and Hataria chose Axis Nova.

It will be me and Dephire Vs. Hataria and Axis Nova because AMF is not allies with Dephire.

Dephire-Transylvania Vs. Hataria-Axis Nova

No Laser Technology. Not only is it PMT-FT, but it's just not right.

Umm...Give it your best.

War is on Wednesday.

It will be me and Dephire Vs. Hataria and Axis Nova because AMF is not allies with Dephire.

Ok, makes sense. Can't wait to see the outcome.

War is on Wednesday.

If only world leaders could say that, lol.

Dephire-Transylvania Vs. Hataria-Axis Nova

No Laser Technology. Not only is it PMT-FT, but it's just not right.

Umm...Give it your best.

War is on Wednesday.

Seconded and how about we don’t use any WMDs, okay?

Ok, makes sense. Can't wait to see the outcome.

Me, too.

If only world leaders could say that, lol.

LOL

I'll agree to lay off my StSL, but I use lasers in a variety of other applications within the atmosphere as detailed in my tech thread (though nothing so powerful as the StSL).

Also, I'll agree to the no WMD clause, provided we classify such things as those silly cannons and my FOBS Thor system (and ortillery) as WMD.

Dephire-Transylvania Vs. Hataria-Axis Nova

Wait, they are going to out number us with five billion people. That’s not fair. *Looks around*

Maybe we can talk him in to allow another person on our side. But who can we get.

Or we could go with Dephire-Transylvania Vs. Hataria because both of use together equal his pop.

P.S. Who do I sound like?

Also, I'll agree to the no WMD clause, provided we classify such things as those silly cannons and my FOBS Thor system (and ortillery) as WMD.

Those cannons are classified as WMD by me.

THREAD IGNORED

I am sorry Dephire, but I don't like Dogpiles I am not Into Dogpiles and I HATE Dogplies.
My little rant here.
Hataria, at one point I was dealing with you, Bormann Empire, and West Corinthia, each one of which is bigger than me.
Did I whine, pull some bullshit about autism, and pull out? Did I ask for some fair fight? No, I stayed, and though as far as I'm concerned, you're pulling crap out of your ass in my RP, I'm still not complaining.
So quit whining your sorry ass of about any dogpile. Maybe you can start RPing fairly decently once in a while and you won't get dogpiled- you ever thought of that?
So in the end, shut the hell up about getting dogpiled. That's the way things are.

Yes, the Dominator Class Rail Cannons are WMD's..well...the DCRC IV-V. But the DCRC I-III and the Stonehenge cannons are not WMD's.

While on paper I do indeed have a gigantic population, in this particular conflict as stated it's a bit misleading, as I'm not using my entire military in defense of Hataria, but rather, just the forces stationed there currently as well as some extra stuff I'm moving in over the next couple of days (I'm assuming that they'll be a few NS weeks or whatever).

Note that as always, I shall be defending Hataria proper and Western Hataria only-- the colonies are not something I mess with.

AN, what are your Real World territories again?

My little rant here.
Hataria, at one point I was dealing with you, Bormann Empire, and West Corinthia, each one of which is bigger than me.
Did I whine, pull some bullshit about autism, and pull out? Did I ask for some fair fight? No, I stayed, and though as far as I'm concerned, you're pulling crap out of your ass in my RP, I'm still not complaining.
So quit whining your sorry ass of about any dogpile. Maybe you can start RPing fairly decently once in a while and you won't get dogpiled- you ever thought of that?
So in the end, shut the hell up about getting dogpiled. That's the way things are.

Well said, Mr. Demon, well said. You were one of those I was talking about early. He enter into a dogpile against you and Blackhelm. And attack a nation 1% of his size, which can be classified as a dogpile.

AN, what are your Real World territories again?

The continent on which Axis Nova resides, and my Numonican territories, which are basically about the size of western Europe.

Also, to further clarify my role, it would be in defense of Hataria only-- I would not be providing support for any counterattacks on his part. Neither you nor Dephire have anything I want all that badly.

While on paper I do indeed have a gigantic population, in this particular conflict as stated it's a bit misleading, as I'm not using my entire military in defense of Hataria, but rather, just the forces stationed there currently as well as some extra stuff I'm moving in over the next couple of days (I'm assuming that they'll be a few NS weeks or whatever).

Note that as always, I shall be defending Hataria proper and Western Hataria only-- the colonies are not something I mess with.

I’m going to attack Spain and maybe move on to some more of his colonies. That’s it, Dephire, there is our plan. We attack his colonies and take their support from his mainland.

Hey we need to go to the Dominion Commonwealth forum to plan our attacks.

-Smiles-
Yay! I get to keep my many territories!

Los Mexico
Sochatopia
Outer Rim
Four Corners
Chitzeland
Territory North of Danteri

Woot!

The continent on which Axis Nova resides, and my Numonican territories, which are basically about the size of western Europe.

Also, to further clarify my role, it would be in defense of Hataria only-- I would not be providing support for any counterattacks on his part. Neither you nor Dephire have anything I want all that badly.

He is Dephire!

He is Dephire!

I am? -looks at name in the top right corner-

Holy shiznets! I AM!

I am? -looks at name in the top right corner-

Holy shiznets! I AM!

Get to the DC forum, so we can plan our attack.

Hey, speaking about population, how can I make it rise faster than only a couple million people a day?

:p Issues.
Go for the ones that promote population growth and not the ones that will kill your people!:p

Hey, speaking about population, how can I make it rise faster than only a couple million people a day?

You're just trying to out populate my colony which is fixed at 650 million. Well I have news for you! Not much actually, :(.

You're just trying to out populate my colony which is fixed at 650 million. Well I have news for you! Not much actually, :(.

lol, I already outgrown that by over 100 million :D

OOC: Thats funny, because I've outgrown it by over 5 Billion....odd

I think it's because you've been around longer.

Ugh.

Why do people refuse to learn?

OOC: Thats funny, because I've outgrown it by over 5 Billion....odd

Whop-dee-fucking-do, you beat a colony of an '05 country in population. Three cheers for Barbarosea!

Ah no, infact I don't care, my point was exacty that bragging about ones size is somewhat annoying >_>.

Ah no, infact I don't care, my point was exacty that bragging about ones size is somewhat annoying >_>.

Stop killing our buzz. You're not kablammo.

Leafanistan, start the war thread for that island.

I must ask as to why even all of this none-sense is being posted? If you wanted a different war, telegram eachother. Stop clogging the OOC thread with your unrelated crap. Thank you.

Hataria is banned for a few days, so he's giving me control of his military forces till he gets back-- contact him on MSN for details.

edit: in the Dephire-Transylvania vs Hataria-Axis Nova conflict, that is.

Hataria is banned for a few days, so he's giving me control of his military forces till he gets back-- contact him on MSN for details.

edit: in the Dephire-Transylvania vs Hataria-Axis Nova conflict, that is.

OOC: Oh…that is over because of Hataria is using OOCly knowledge to get out of a planned attack. And he wants to godmode by saying that an EMP attack is useless against his updated technology.

It will be on, if he does what I told Dephire to tell him.

Is Hataria surrendering in Algeria like we suggested, so he only has to fight Dephire and Transylvania?

Wait, they are going to out number us with five billion people. That’s not fair. *Looks around*

I can give you free equipment if this is still a problem ^^

I'm honored to be in your sig, Questers :D

Hataria is banned?!

Hataria is banned?!

Yeah, according to GMC, 4 days, for flaming.

Hataria is banned?!

he has taken a mandatory 4-day vacation

lol, mandatory vacation :D

So much for invading him on Wednesday...:rolleyes:

So much for invading him on Wednesday...:rolleyes:

Oh, that's still on, I'll just be controlling his forces till he gets unbanned (he gave me permission on MSN, ask him).

Don't make him lose! :D

I can give you free equipment if this is still a problem ^^

OOC: Sure, if the war is still on. But I want him to agree to this stuff; cut the random nuclear tests & cut the OOCly knowledge to be used ICly & cut his godmode sounding ways and cut all his thinking that everybody hates him.

And it boils form the fact that he told Dephire that an EMP round would be near useless against his now updated technology. From what have hear about EMP attacks, everything is going to be hit with it. I don’t think they are ways of to proof your stuff with it. I need to ask this on the NS Draftroom.

And Questers, about that free equipment, can it be two Hoods?

If your computer technology doesn't use semiconductors or transistors (though that is the realm of more advanced PMT nations such as myself), yeah, it is mostly immune to EMPs-- alternately, Faraday cages can be used. It's possible to harden stuff to a degree.

Hataria's stuff, in my opinion, doesn't fall into this category for the most part.

If your computer technology doesn't use semiconductors or transistors (though that is the realm of more advanced PMT nations such as myself), yeah, it is mostly immune to EMPs-- alternately, Faraday cages can be used. It's possible to harden stuff to a degree.

OOC: I get you, but EMP takes out everything. Cars, radios, etc. Right?

Hataria's stuff, in my opinion, doesn't fall into this category for the most part.

OOC: Well I will go with that because Hataria is early PMT. You on the other hand is close to mid PMT - high PMT.

OOC: I get you, but EMP takes out everything. Cars, radios, etc. Right?



OOC: Well I will go with that because Hataria is early PMT. You on the other hand is close to mid PMT - high PMT.

No need to say OOC in an OOC thread :p

EMPs scrag semiconductors and transistors. Since much modern techology utilizes these, an EMP will tend to mess them up unless they're shielded.

Older cars, for example, can mostly ignore an EMP.

No need to say OOC in an OOC thread :p

EMPs scrag semiconductors and transistors. Since much modern techology utilizes these, an EMP will tend to mess them up unless they're shielded.

Older cars, for example, can mostly ignore an EMP.

I forgot what thread I was in.

And the EMP will work then. Good for us, bad for Hataria.

Old cars can be used, the modern ones can’t. Right?

And the war is back on!!!

And really bad if I get involved, I have a strong tendancy to lob EMP fields everywhere I go.

So, am I involved?
Or is this closed off?

Closed.

And really bad if I get involved, I have a strong tendancy to lob EMP fields everywhere I go.

So, am I involved?
Or is this closed off?

Yup, still closed. Me & D-Man Vs. Hat-Man and Nova-Man.

*performs cheesy Megaman boss pose*

Hey Icovir, our lets shoot each other thread is here. Lets both start at least 500km from the island.

Leafanistani Fleets tend to travel with all their systems online making them a massive radio beacon and they move as slow as their slowest ship so they'll take a while to get there.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=505411

-Chuckles-
Axis Nova, if you throw this war...you may have a seat amongst us.
This, of course, is still OOC talk...

-Chuckles-
Axis Nova, if you throw this war...you may have a seat amongst us.
This, of course, is still OOC talk...

Utterly out of the question.

-Chuckles-
Oh well.
Anyways...

Did you check your telegrams, Dephire?

I did, and I am now in the war. However, I must go for tonight. See ya!