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the Hatarian Imperial Military is Proud to present a it's First Super Soldier, The Hatarian Imperial Elite Storm Trooper.

Imperial Elite Stormtrooper: Type I

Type IV Body Armor (This armor protects against .30 caliber armor piercing (AP) bullets (U.S. Military designation M2 AP), with nominal masses of 10.8 g (166 gr) at a reference velocity of 878 m/s (2880 ft/s ± 30 ft/s). It also provides at least single hit protection against the threats mentioned in [Types I, IIA, II, IIIA, and III].)

Weapons: Main Rifles; Arisaka Type 99 Rifle, Colt AR-15, M1 Carbine.
Side Arms; Katana, Combat Knife, Radom VIS-35, Smith & Wesson Model 39, Whitney Wolverine Pistol, Grenade.


The Elite Stormtrooper is Hataria's first Super Soldier, as Strong as ten Men, This New Soldier of The Hatarian Grand Army was created my Top Sciencsts and Geneticests. the Imperial Elite Stormtrooper will be The wave of a New Hatarian Army

Impeial Elite Stormtrooper: Type II

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Titanium Armor

Weapons: Sword, 27mm Mechine Gun, Rocket Launcher.

The Type II is deadlier then type I as this version can use hand to Hand Combat, Good at Blowing things uo and has a 27mm machine Gun for Combat.

Number of Elite Stormtroopers Type I now: 120,000.
Number of Type II: 8,700

OOC: Copied from Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulletproof_vest#Performance_standards

Type IV
(Armor Piercing Rifle) This armor protects against .30 caliber armor piercing (AP) bullets (U.S. Military designation M2 AP), with nominal masses of 10.8 g (166 gr) at a reference velocity of 878 m/s (2880 ft/s ± 30 ft/s). It also provides at least single hit protection against the threats mentioned in [Types I, IIA, II, IIIA, and III].

Lol, is it your people's jobs to find out what's wrong with theirs posts?

OOC: Gente, yes. When a soldier is as strong as ten men, things tend to stink. Bad.

OOC-When you copy something from somewhere else it's called plagarism. Make something original next time.

Zukariaa;11869491']OOC-When you copy something from somewhere else it's called plagarism. Make something original next time.

OOC: plagarism is very illegal.

hataria's done it before, too. he tried to copy someone elses superdreadnaught (see: the hood) but got caught and got in deep doo doo

He's also blatantly copied the stats for the T-72, M4, M35, Yamato, and a couple of other things. Just ignore this thread. (Or if his plagiarism really annoys you, report him to GMC.)

T-72's a piece of crap next to the Merkava IV anyway.

Might want to give the super soldiers steroids and let them carry monstrous weapons like this Denel NTW-20 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denel_NTW-20) from South Africa for anti-personnel as well as anti-materiel use.

I might also recommend carrying miniguns or heavy machine guns as personal combat arms - one of the perks of having very strong infantry.

Also, you might want to go to NS Draftroom for advice on building a heavy infantry unit, they can give you more info than I can.

Actually, Hataria was just posting public domain as refferance to what a Type IV body armor can handle.

Not plagerism.

Edit:

Creddit to:
Chriss, Chuck. (2002). Body armor development after WWII. Retrieved February 7, 2005, from [4]
Chriss, Chuck. (2005). U.S. body armor (flak jackets) in WWII. Retrieved February 7, 2005, from [5]
Military. (2004). Isaac Newton and the assault rifle: Body armor innovations. Retrieved February 7, 2005, from [6]

This isn't plagiarism. Ideas can't be copyrighted. He can use the idea.

However copy pasting is frowned upon.

This part of the post "Type IV Body Armor (This armor protects against .30 caliber armor piercing (AP) bullets (U.S. Military designation M2 AP), with nominal masses of 10.8 g (166 gr) at a reference velocity of 878 m/s (2880 ft/s ± 30 ft/s). It also provides at least single hit protection against the threats mentioned in [Types I, IIA, II, IIIA, and III].)"

appears to be copy pasted directly from this article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulletproof_vest#Performance_standards

I would suggest that you use the idea but in your own words. It would probably make it easier for people to understand that part if you did anyway.

This isn't plagiarism. Ideas can't be copyrighted. He can use the idea.

Copying and pasting the text directly, without putting it in quotes and giving credit, however...

Copying and pasting the text directly, without putting it in quotes and giving credit, however...

Consider that he's not doing a research paper and that this is a nothing more than an rp site where people take stuff from websites like wikipedia everyday for use game roleplaying......

OOC: Ya know, I could SWEAR someone made this already...

EDIT: Yep, it was Zutariaa.

He's also blatantly copied the stats for the T-72, M4, M35, Yamato, and a couple of other things. Just ignore this thread. (Or if his plagiarism really annoys you, report him to GMC.)

OOC: Copying finite statistics can't be construed as plagarism. For example, the statistics on the T-72 are going to be the same anywhere you look. The stats for RL equipment are reproduced by numerous storefronts all over NS and it is not considered plagarism to use them.

Copying and pasting the text directly, without putting it in quotes and giving credit, however...

Wikipedia follows GNU free document license. He can copy and paste what he wants from it.

Wikipedia follows GNU free document license. He can copy and paste what he wants from it.

Really? Okay, then, I stand corrected. Copying and pasting without quoting and giving credit from somewhere not Wikipidia.

I find it hard to believe a super soldier would carry a katana though... :eek:

I find it hard to believe a super soldier would carry a katana though... :eek:

Must be a big "Super soldier" sized katana...

And well, they - might - be weilded like lightsabers (not really, note massive amounts of humur and sarcasm), but they'd be balanced so that they could throw them as well, and since they are 10x as strong, they could be competitive with a katana as an average soldier with an M-16 and 30 bullets.

That or it is their form of "Boyonet" and is fitted to the end of the rifle...
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And copy pasting a Wiki for a refferance paper is also frowned upon.

Taking someone else's woprk and claiming as your own is plagerism (IE, using your buddy's paper from last year, or having yoiur best friend write it)

A works cited is just a teacher's way to check that you actually read up on the subject before pattering off with paper, then they make sure you didn't copy paste to prove you actually read your own sources.

Also, if there is sufficient "copypasting" to make the teacher belive your paper is simply a mosaic of your source's thoughts, opinions, and information, they will consider that plagerism as well.

"Common knowledge" and "Public domain" are two very different things.

Taking someone else's concept, and tweaking it, is in some gray area. But unless you want to see who has a better lawyer, give credit where credit is due.
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Note, he didn't claim he invented the armor system, though he should edit it since he does not specify levels I to III.

Hurtful Thoughts ... again ... Wikipedia is 'public domain'; it follows the GNU Free Document License. Anybody can copy/paste it at free will.

True, but teachers will dock many points if you try handing in a "copypasted" report.

Which is what I stated, in longhand.

Using it for everyday stuff, isn't a big deal.

There's a reason why teachers will ask you to cite refferance books, dictionaries, and encyclopedias though, even though what they contain is generally considered "Public domain"...

Since schools don't care about that, they care about 'common knowledge'. Or, AKA what a person failing 3 grades below you knows. And require you to cite anything that isn't common knowledge. Failure to do so will cause the teacher to whip out their form of "Plagerism" card and give you a 0 on your grade.

Pretty much I'm covering myself in the event that someone see's this and decides that copypasting their next report from Wikipedia is OK, except then it isn't his report, it is an article from a referance being passed of as his own report.
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In summary

Hataria did nothing illegal, so drop the issue and move along.

Those who do as Hataria did, will have done nothing wrong.

Those doing what he did for their next turn paper will fail the class.

An average strong man bench say 240 lbs. My Ass one soldier can Bench 1.2 tons.... Why waste their potential giving them rifles? Hell give them a GAU-8* gattling gun with an oversized ammo drum that's more like it. And for grenades, pah who needs to chuck girly nades right? Give them Airforce-grade 100 lb bombs. That'll do the trick.



* The GAU-8 is one of the most poewrful gattling guns ever made. It fires 30mm bullets and (including feeding mechanism and ammo drum) is about twice as long as an old VW Beetle. It is used soley by the A-10 as its main anti-armor weapon. This baby destroys tanks.

OOC: I don't see what the problem is.. I have Blubs using WWII equipment. >.> Until I can find a decent MT storefront anyway.

OOC: Just curious here, but Hurtful Thoughts, do you ever get tired of acting like you're more intelligent than anyone else?

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Yes, then I act crazy and incoherent, but I'm not online when I do that...

Just because my IQ is a hair over 100, it is natural to assume I can grasp things you (assuming you are "average") can't. Though you could still be smarter.

Whether or not the FBI called Jaredcohenia and said Hataria was a moron is beside the point.

And besides, if everyone understood what I meant, why do they keep claiming I meant something else, and claim they think they know what I'm saying on the same post?
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And a fully loaded GAU-8 not only is massive, but wieghs more than 1.2 tons... and you generally only want a guy who can bench 240 to carry 70 to 120 pounds of gear, so... 700 to 1200 pounds for the SS...

Then you need to design a comfortable set of web gear/load carrying equpment for carrying all that mass through the strains of combat...

I guess you didn't think of that...

Yes, then I act crazy and incoherent, but I'm not online when I do that...

OOC: Not on jolt, anyways...

Yes, then I act crazy and incoherent, but I'm not online when I do that...

Just because my IQ is a hair over 100, it is natural to assume I can grasp things you (assuming you are "average") can't. Though you could still be smarter.

Whether or not the FBI called Jaredcohenia and said Hataria was a moron is beside the point.

And besides, if everyone understood what I meant, why do they keep claiming I meant something else, and claim they think they know what I'm saying on the same post?

And a fully loaded GAU-8 not only is massive, but wieghs more than 1.2 tons... and you generally only want a guy who can bench 240 to carry 70 pounds of gear, so... 700 pounds for the SS...

Funny thing is, your "Average" IQ is just that, a little over one hundred.

Funny thing is, your "Average" IQ is just that, a little over one hundred.

Quite so. Those of us who actually do have high IQs don't need to act as though we're more intelligent than other people, because we already are. At least if you put any stock in IQ. I don't.

IQ isn't about how smart you are, it's how smart you can be.

If I didn't know basic math, but had an IQ of 140, I'm not too smart, but I could be.

Eh, IQ tests are rigged to favor upper class white guys who speak english...

Average was actually from 90 to 100...

Eh, IQ tests are rigged to favor upper class white guys who speak english...

Average was actually from 90 to 100...

Average is 90-110.

Zukariaa;11871217']Average is 90-110.

Hey Zuk, you ain't mad at me because of the whole supersoldier thing, right? 'Cause I already had supersoldiers, so it's not like I ripped the idea off of you...

*puppy face*

Hey Zuk, you ain't mad at me because of the whole supersoldier thing, right? 'Cause I already had supersoldiers, so it's not like I ripped the idea off of you...

*puppy face*

He won't be mad for long ;)

If only Questers would reply ;_;

Hey Zuk, you ain't mad at me because of the whole supersoldier thing, right? 'Cause I already had supersoldiers, so it's not like I ripped the idea off of you...

*puppy face*

Nah, it just made me feel like people would start looking down on supersoldiers because a lot of people began making them after me. And because Hataria's arn't all that great.. (no offense, really Hataria.. you just need to give more infoemation and make them realistic-ish)

He won't be mad for long ;)

If only Questers would reply ;_;

If Questers would reply to what? I'll mention it on IRC to him, he's on now ranting on about "stupid commiez" or ... something like that.

If Questers would reply to what? I'll mention it on IRC to him, he's on now ranting on about "stupid commiez" or ... something like that.

I've been annoying him about something, he claims that it's too late in England to do it. :p

Eh, IQ tests are rigged to favor upper class white guys who speak english...

Average was actually from 90 to 100...

That doesn't change the fact you just pwnt your self.

STARDUST? WHA ARE YOU DOING OUT THIS LATE? YOU ARE A BAD BOY. YOU ARE SO FUCKING GROUNDED DUDE.

Yeah yeah I'll reply later tommorow when I'm not doing shit or uh tired or um maybe monday.

Zukariaa;11871217']Average is 90-110.

I stand corrected.

Can we get back to the original topic?
(listening to Hataria's Super soldier description, as he wasn't finished when he was interupted)

Or has that been lost?

And I'd like to see the world try to pwnt themselves... willingly...

STARDUST? WHA ARE YOU DOING OUT THIS LATE? YOU ARE A BAD BOY. YOU ARE SO FUCKING GROUNDED DUDE.

Yeah yeah I'll reply later tommorow when I'm not doing shit or uh tired or um maybe monday.

Dude, what are you smoking this time? And why didn't I get any?

Can we get back to the original topic?
(listening to Hataria's Super soldier description, as he wasn't finished when he was interupted)

Or has that been lost?
Um... he didn't actually give us a description. He copied some stats from Wikipedia and used a picture of a law enforcement official in cheap riot gear, and called it a super-soldier. Unless that counts?

Frankly, it makes me almost ashamed to spend hours making an effort to roleplay well on this forum, when so few others seem to...

I'm smoking your mom and you didn't get any cos that would be incest.

And I'd like to see the world try to pwnt themselves... willingly...

...Uh, you claim to be smarter, then turn around and make a mockery of tense? That doesn't look good.

Eh, IQ tests are rigged to favor upper class white guys who speak english...

Average was actually from 90 to 100...

Hells yeah, brutha, it da man tryin' to keep you down!

Hurtful Thoughts ... again ... Wikipedia is 'public domain'; it follows the GNU Free Document License. Anybody can copy/paste it at free will.

Yes, but that doesn't mean you should do so without:

[1] Saying that's where you got it and

[2] Re-writing it to delete references to things you haven't copy-pasted. At present the copied section sticks out like a sore thumb because it's so transparently part of a larger writeup.

It's not against the rules to copy from sources [debating would be difficult otherwise], but it's not very impressive if you don't cite them or bother to write them up in your own words.

Just because my IQ is a hair over 100, it is natural to assume I can grasp things you (assuming you are "average") can't. Though you could still be smarter.

The average IQ is always 100. Why? Because the IQ system works by setting the average IQ test score as 100, regardless of what the results are. So congratulations, you're mediocre.

...Uh, you claim to be smarter, then turn around and make a mockery of tense? That doesn't look good.

I don't speak leet well...

Will the spamming ever end?

So, I'm of average in intellegence, wow, almost the only thing I'm average at...

I'm smoking your mom and you didn't get any cos that would be incest.
All right, so as long as you're there, get me a cup of tea. (Draw your own conclusions. And a battleship while you're at it. I've always wanted to see a hallucinogen-inspired battleship.)

Eh, IQ tests are rigged to favor upper class white guys who speak english...

Average was actually from 90 to 100...

Hmm... actually no.

Considering IQ tests aren't given only in English, they favor those who are capable of understanding the language they are taking it in.

Furthermore, while there is considerable debate over standarized tests (IQ tests included), they don't faver "upper class white guys." What they may favor are those who have the ability to receive a good education and grow up in a good environment. Notice how this does not say "rich white guys" as you don't have to be rich to get a good education or have loving caring parents that feed you, or to become intelligent, or have logic; you don't have to be white as whites are not even the highest scoring race; nor do you have to be a guy as women and men have been shown to have equal average IQs despite doing better on different types of problems. In addition, there have been studies showing that certain brain development or brain size corrolates with one's IQ... not the dough you have in the bank or the color of your skin.

One more thing (oh mighty and infinitely intelligent one), the average IQ isn't 90-100. The average is exactly 100 by definition. It is graded on a [Guassian] bell curve, which means the average is 100... 50% are below and 50% are above.

*2 Cents Rant*

I don't speak leet well...

I don't speak it at all.

I don't speak it at all.

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"for some reason now speak leet"?

I will admit that I am wrong.

And I apoloigise for those I have offended on multiple occassions, and for those I shall offend in the near futeure I apologise in advance.

LNI reads leet now?

"for some reason now speak leet"?

You forgot, "I"

For some reason I now speek leet.

LNI reads leet now?
Apparently. It took me a few minutes, though...
You forgot, "I"

For some reason I now speek leet.

Oh. It makes sense now.

"for some reason now speak leet"?

you missed an I, it reads "for some reason I now speak leet"

I can also use -- --- .-. ... . -.-. --- -.. . and Фонэык Pющeн

Back to the topic, please.

you missed an I, it reads "for some reason I now speak leet"

I can also use -- --- .-. ... . -.-. --- -.. . and Фонэык Pющeн

OOC: I can also use (I speak Arabic) انا اتكلم عربي

IC: Icovir is worried about this new super soldier program that all nations seem to be adopting. But, we have faith that our ally, Hataria, will not use it against Icovir.

Yes, then I act crazy and incoherent, but I'm not online when I do that...

Just because my IQ is a hair over 100, it is natural to assume I can grasp things you (assuming you are "average") can't. Though you could still be smarter.

Whether or not the FBI called Jaredcohenia and said Hataria was a moron is beside the point.

And besides, if everyone understood what I meant, why do they keep claiming I meant something else, and claim they think they know what I'm saying on the same post?
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And a fully loaded GAU-8 not only is massive, but wieghs more than 1.2 tons... and you generally only want a guy who can bench 240 to carry 70 to 120 pounds of gear, so... 700 to 1200 pounds for the SS...

Then you need to design a comfortable set of web gear/load carrying equpment for carrying all that mass through the strains of combat...

I guess you didn't think of that...

Actually it weighs a hair over 2 tons. But yeah I didn't care to think about the numbers or practicality partly due to the nature of this whole subject. Fine I propose a compromise, I say give the super soldier a Vulcan Minigun loaded with 7.62mm rounds. It's smaller and you can stuff a whole lot more ammo that way :p

you missed an I, it reads "for some reason I now speak leet"

I can also use -- --- .-. ... . -.-. --- -.. . and Фонэык Pющeн

-- --- .-. ... . -.-. --- -.. . Morse code

Hmmm, you even included the triple space between words, impressive...

Though you oversimplified it by leaving out the single space between dots and dashes and shortening your space between letters to 1 space.
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Or you could use battle rifles like assault rifles... and heavy machine guns as light crew served weapons. Also, carrying a 120 mm mortar on your back would become feasable.

Yes, but that doesn't mean you should do so without:

[1] Saying that's where you got it and

You shouldn't, but there's nothing illegal in doing it, so he has technically done nothing official wrong in this thread.

[2] Re-writing it to delete references to things you haven't copy-pasted. At present the copied section sticks out like a sore thumb because it's so transparently part of a larger writeup.

Well... that's sorta irrelevant to the fact that he technically can do that since Wikipedia allows it by their GNU contract.

It's not against the rules to copy from sources [debating would be difficult otherwise], but it's not very impressive if you don't cite them or bother to write them up in your own words.

Straw man. I never said it was impressive, I just said he technically has done nothing wrong, so there's no point in filling up two pages worth of thread typing, "LOL YOU COPIED AND THAT'S ILLEGAL!" when it's simply not true.

True, but teachers will dock many points if you try handing in a "copypasted" report.

Which is what I stated, in longhand.

Using it for everyday stuff, isn't a big deal.

There's a reason why teachers will ask you to cite refferance books, dictionaries, and encyclopedias though, even though what they contain is generally considered "Public domain"...

Since schools don't care about that, they care about 'common knowledge'. Or, AKA what a person failing 3 grades below you knows. And require you to cite anything that isn't common knowledge. Failure to do so will cause the teacher to whip out their form of "Plagerism" card and give you a 0 on your grade.

Pretty much I'm covering myself in the event that someone see's this and decides that copypasting their next report from Wikipedia is OK, except then it isn't his report, it is an article from a referance being passed of as his own report.
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In summary

Hataria did nothing illegal, so drop the issue and move along.

Those who do as Hataria did, will have done nothing wrong.

Those doing what he did for their next turn paper will fail the class.

Except that is only applicable in the classroom. It is not applicable outside the school.
Further, there have been serious problems with the enforcement of those rules by certain schools. For example, a year ago, a student, who was an expert in a certain field and had written a book about it. He wrote a paper on it and took stuff from his book. The teacher in the case filed plagiarism charges against him for not crediting his book even though he was the guy that wrote the book. The charges resulted in him being kicked out of that of that university and created a black mark on his education record which he had to go to court to get removed and compensated.
Schools can go too far in enforcing citation requirements. If you are your own source, common sense dictates you do not need to cite yourself.

Hey Zuk, you ain't mad at me because of the whole supersoldier thing, right? 'Cause I already had supersoldiers, so it's not like I ripped the idea off of you...

*puppy face*
Super soldiers have been around since the beginning of NS.

You shouldn't, but there's nothing illegal in doing it, so he has technically done nothing official wrong in this thread.

Yes, but doing nothing officially wrong isn't the same as doing nothing wrong. This writeup clearly needs reworking if it's to actually be used in RP, and fixating on legality isn't going to help with that even a little.

Well... that's sorta irrelevant to the fact that he technically can do that since Wikipedia allows it by their GNU contract.

He technically can, but it's not going to result in a writeup that's written in a coherent and consistant style. You can technically just grab Wikipedia's F-15 article, call it F-3000 and claim it's your new fighter, but you're only going to get derision from the assembled crowd because it isn't yours at all.

Straw man. I never said it was impressive, I just said he technically has done nothing wrong, so there's no point in filling up two pages worth of thread typing, "LOL YOU COPIED AND THAT'S ILLEGAL!" when it's simply not true.

He has done something wrong. The fact that it isn't against the forum rules doesn't mean it's the right way to go about making a writeup. Indeed, the number of posts pointing out that the section is lifted directly from Wikipedia is proof of that.

The writeup at present talks about material that isn't reproduced in the copied portion. That's the wrong way to copy material, for a start: if you're going to do it, you should at least take enough that the result isn't obviously incomplete. It's also vastly too detailed to blend in with the surrounding material, and the detail itself is pointless: a whole paragraph about body armour's protection value doesn't fit well with a writeup that doesn't mention anything else but weapons, and no detail at all on those bar names.

To Hataria: if you're going to have one section that goes into that kind of detail, they all have to go into that kind of detail, otherwise it just looks wrong. This would mean we'd need to know about the soldier's non-weaponry kit items, electronics, navigational devices like GPS, and so on. I doubt they carry two different pistols, so a standard kit setup would be useful, along with the amount of ammo they normally carry and what grenades.

In addition, most armies don't have a single soldier kit set: if you've played one of the Battlefield games you should be familiar with the various roles: soldier, medic, engineer, sniper [or 'designated marksman'], support gunner, and so on. Your guy here can't fill all those roles, so needs more info. We could also use some info on just how these guys are modified and what's been added.

Using the M1 Carbine with a modern soldier is just odd: it's a horrible weapon firing bullets that at long range can be stopped by thick winter clothing. If these guys are super-soldiers, they really ought to be packing in some modernised BAR or FG42 copy using full-sized rifle rounds, since they'll presumably be able to fire it like a regular rifle. If they're significantly stronger than regular humans, arming them with an M1 Carbine or Arisaka 99 is going to be like arming a regular human with a BB gun.

Also, no man could have the strength of ten men without using some kind of hydraulic exosuit, which the dude in the photo rather obviously isn't.

That's all completely irrelevant. I never argued if he should or should not do it, or if it's an efficient way of copying. I only said it's not illegal, therefore not technically wrong to do. Of course, it's not very ... correct ... to do, but that doesn't matter when he doesn't have to adhere to what's 'correct' since he might simply not care and he's not doing anything illegal in the first place.

I only said it's not illegal, therefore not technically wrong to do.

And I'm saying while it's not against the rules, it is wrong to do in other senses. Which it is. In any case, the people pointing out it's taken from Wikipedia aren't doing anything illegal either.

Considering the number of people in this forum who use stats lifted directly from Wikipedia, I find the people jumping on Hataria for it to be hilariously hypocritical.

Considering the number of people in this forum who use stats lifted directly from Wikipedia, I find the people jumping on Hataria for it to be hilariously hypocritical.

Well, most people don't randomly CP them into the middle of a writeup...Anyway, can we steer this back to the topic now?

The average IQ is always 100. Why? Because the IQ system works by setting the average IQ test score as 100, regardless of what the results are.

Damn... lol took the words right out of my mouth there...


The thing I find really amusing reading the first part of the thread is the rip from Wikipedia. I'm not especially troubled by it, I just find it baffling that our poster did not think to remove the references to other types of armour that haven't been mentioned in the post on the forums. When you read it, you just end up confused... that is until you realise it's copied...

My advice would be proof read what you write, especially if it's copied... also don't write in the first person singular when refering to your Nation.

And I'm saying while it's not against the rules, it is wrong to do in other senses. Which it is. In any case, the people pointing out it's taken from Wikipedia aren't doing anything illegal either.

Agreed, it is taboo, but not illegal.

Summary:
Hataria
[Poor copypaste]

1st response:
You simply coppied that from Wiki, poorly too.

2nd:
Plagerist!!!!!

Subsequent:
Debateing whether or not he plagerised and then if what he did was ethical/quality.
Answer was 'no' to both of the questions.

Debateing whether or not he plagerised and then if what he did was ethical/quality.
Answer was 'no' to both of the questions.
No, answer was 'yes, but it didn't matter' and no. It's still plagarism even when you steal it wholesale from a source that's ok with copying if you then try to pass it off as your own work.