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I need 800,000 good and affordable assualt rifles, 200,000 good sub-machine guns, 30,000 Anti-Tank RPGs, 100,000 Machine guns, and if I can afford it, 50-100 Paratroop Planes.

Any offers?

Will will pay for these things.

You may want to look up DMG's storefront...

They have all sorts of good weapons...

Well, we buy from Leafanistan, but we can sell you some kick ass APC's

I could sell you some high quality body armour...

Well, we buy from Leafanistan, but we can sell you some kick ass APC's

I need some armoured units, but I thought I bought a few from you?

You may want to look up DMG's storefront...

They have all sorts of good weapons...

I know, but I prefer to place the order and have the guy owning the store front respond immeditalty, but when he's on I'll order from him again.

I could sell you some high quality body armour...

No thank you, I don't need armour, but thanks for offering.

I need some armoured units, but I thought I bought a few from you?

hmm...its possible, but I don't recall, do you remember the type of vehicle?

hmm...its possible, but I don't recall, do you remember the type of vehicle?

I think it was wheeled, thats all I can remember. And I think I bought 1,000 of them..

The Soviet Storefront sell all of these things at a low price.

Is he on?

OOC: TWSP? I'm not sure...

IC: Icovir can sell you some of these weapons, but for a higher price than the Soviet Storefront would offer.

Can I see the weapons and prices first?

OOC: Here's the link (TWSP is offline): http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=497107

I need 800,000 good and affordable assualt rifles, 200,000 good sub-machine guns, 30,000 Anti-Tank RPGs, 100,000 Machine guns, and if I can afford it, 50-100 Paratroop Planes.

Any offers?

Since you are asking for weapons, we feel it is fair to ask what you plan to do with them?

I know that the storefront people will get annoyed by me saying this but things like AK-102s, M16s, and the like are all things that you can make yourself. Same goes for RPG-7s and stingers. Any weapon that is in use today or has been in use before you can make on your own. Storefronts are mostly for original weapons like DMG's K3-Liberator

Since you are asking for weapons, we feel it is fair to ask what you plan to do with them?


Well then your conseption of fair is deluded. You are simply the supplier and im the consumer.

I think it was wheeled, thats all I can remember. And I think I bought 1,000 of them..

Was it the Mercury?

I have no clue, I just posted it. Anyways do u sell production rights for the Leopard two or any heavy APCs? I got 5.5 Billion dollars to blow rite now..

Dear Sirs,
For your stated RPG requirement, we would like to offer 2 systems for consideration:

Firstly we would present the M15 ALAW, perhaps the closest weapon we have to the RPG-7 family and an all round superior weapon system:
M15 ALAW
Weight: complete assembly (inc. sight unit, missile and missile tube): 12.9kg
Length: 1175mm
width: 140mm
Range: 20-650m
Warhead: Depends on rocket
Guidance: Inertial/Predicted Line of Sight (PLOS)
Weight of sight/fire unit: 2.6kg

The M15 ALAW (Advanced Light Assault Weapon) is a multi role infantry rocket system that comprises an LU17C sighting/fire unit and range of pre-packed 140mm rocket munitions. Each rocket while offering different warheads uses the same propulsion, guidance and steering systems and is supplied in its own launch canister that quickly and easily slots into the Launch Unit. The Launch Unit (LU) consists of an optical sight with optional Thermal/night vision upgrades. When a missile canister is attached the LU automatically detects what type of rocket is contained and automatically presents the default engagement profile although the operator can select an alternative profile if one or more is available. Most rockets use the Predicted Line of Sight (PLOS) guidance mechanism whereby the operator holds the target in the targeting reticule for 3seconds after which the rocket will follow a flight path to hit the target regardless of range and is capable of successfully engaging targets with a crossing speed of up to 100km/h. As Infantry are often called upon to fight in enclosed spaces the M15 rockets all have a liquid based back blast reduction system combined with an initial soft launch motor. Initial launch velocity is approximately 30m/s and terminal velocity is in the high subsonic region. As mentioned the M15 ALAW has a number of different rockets available these are:
MK61 AT
Warhead: triple stage HEAT with approx 1000m RHAe penetration
Engagement profiles: direct and semi lofted
MK62 ATDP
Warhead: twin charge EFP top attack
Engagement profiles: over flight top attack and direct impact fuzing
MK63 HEF
Warhead: HE blast fragmentation
Engagement profiles: direct impact, delayed fuse or over flight airburst
MK64 FTG
Warhead: Follow through grenade capable of producing fragments behind up to 9ft of concrete
Engagement profile: Direct impact or delayed fuse
MK65 TEM
Warhead: Thermo baric explosive
Engagement profile: Direct fire delayed fuse or over flight airburst.


In summary the M15 ALAW can sucessfully engage and destroy the vast majority of targets an infantry soldier is likely to face.


For the egagement of the more advanced tank designs likely to be encountered on todays modern technology battelfeild we would recomend the M14 AMAT:
M14 AMAT
Weight (missile in launch canister): 15.2kg
Length: 1250mm
width: 140mm
Range: 200-3000m
Warhead: Triple stage Shaped charge
Guidance: Combined IIR and CCD
Launch unit weight: 9.4kg (inc thermal sight)

The M14 AMAT (Advanced Missile Anti Tank) is an evolved version of the long serving M5 MAT man portable ATGM. The M14 makes major changes over the M5, with improvements made in terms of guidance, warhead and rocket motor. The new guidance package is a lighter version of that found in the M12 Heavy ATGM and features a dual Imaging Infra Red (IIR) and Charge Coupled Device (CCD) sensor to offer optimum performance under all battle field conditions. As with the guidance package the new warhead is developed from that found on the M12, while the retaining the triple stage warhead design, penetration is significantly reduced due to the much smaller and lighter warhead, the resultant performance has been rated at about 1100mm. The rocket motor retains the low velocity launch operation of the M5 but offers a slightly improved acceleration rate and terminal velocity, reducing the time taken for the missile to reach the target. In normal operation the missile is designed to follow a lofted trajectory to the target to enable the engagement of the target’s generally weaker roof armour but if required the missile can be used in a direct attack profile either with or without a terminal “pop up” manoeuvre, selection of the attack profile is achieved by rotating the sighting unit in respect to the missile tube.

Variants:
M14A1: basic variant with dual band imaging guidance
M14A2: replaces imaging guidance with a semi active laser guidance system
M12A3: similar to A1 model but adds a jam resistant wireless command system allowing lock on after launch engagement

A2 and A3 models require the LU31B improved launch unit with a weight of 19kg


The M14 AMAT is as you can see a much heavier dedicated anti tank weapon system more akin to the inferior MILAN or Javelin systems.

In terms of pricing we woudl make the following offers:
M15 launch unit: $2000
M15 Ammunition: $1000-$3000 depending on the round

M14 LU30A Launch unit: $25,000
M14 LU31B launch unit: $40,000
M14 Missile: $18,000 each.

Domestic production rights are of course availble for negotiable prices.

.45 AS Caseless, Normal Mag, Stock Extended - http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v145/KGBFaTaLsHoT/G4A1.png
4.7 Caseless AS, Ultra Compact Magazine, Stock Folded - http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v145/KGBFaTaLsHoT/G4A1-SMG.png



G4 Sub-Machine Gun
// Abstract //

Due to the necessity for a weapon to replace the current Machine Pistol arming officers and pilots and such due to it’s unreliability, weight, and size making it a bit uncontrollable the G4 was made to replace it.

The G4 excelled in being visually pleasing, accurate, small, powerful and reliable. It was to replace the MP5 in current use and did an excellent job at it using patented quad recoil springs arrangement allows for decreased felt recoil and increased service life of the Machine Pistol. The frame of the weapon is made out of almost entirely high strength polymers. The weapon also features a large trigger guard for comfortable shooting even with gloves. The G4 is issued with quick-detachable silencers, Novac Lo Carry Transparent Blue Holosighthttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v145/KGBFaTaLsHoT/Gun%20Pictures/Sights.jpg, made in USA by Knight's Armaments Co, and with laser pointing module, which installs on the under barrel, or above the barrel RAIL systems. Despite being ridiculously reliable it’s light, and comfortable to wield and fire making it a favorite amongst gun aficionados. Also the weapon is intended with use of the 4.7x39mm high velocity ammunition which claims 100% penetration of CRISAT body Armour (1.6mm of Titanium plus 20 layers of Kevlar) at the distance of 280 meters.

The weapon features a comfortable soft polymer fore-grip which can be detached to reveal a medium length RAIL mount directly under the barrel for the attachment of tactical grips or laser sight or any other equipment which may be equipped on a RAIL system. Despite that the rifle also features a fully detachable and folding stock for comfortable shooting, or light weight, unhampered spraying on the go. The gun it’s self is athstetically pleasing and light, as well as being a scaled down version of the G-12 Integerian standard issue assault rifles featuring all of it’s pros and less of it’s Cons. One of them being size and lack of recoil dampening. Also, the weapon if asked, can be made metal detector proof. In which integral parts are all changed to super high strength polymers and ceramics which not only makes the weapon heavier and not as reliable as it should be but it also makes it stealth and perfect operations. Ammunition of course isn't detectable as it is caseless, unless your using a ferrous metal cased/core bullet. Despite that this weapon is a prime choice for Special Operations personelle or Pilots due to it's reliability, simple construction, light weight, and comfortable forgrip and normal grip as well as folding stock. Also the Blue transparent sights make pointing and shooting a breeze, and even easier for repeated shooting because the sight is not obstrucing the target or surrounding it. It is giving the best of both worlds with none of the cons and so repeated firing is as easy as single shots and just as accurate as well.

Not only that but AS 4.7 and 5.7 ammunition comes with a small laminate which completely vaporizes with heat and get wiped clean from the chamber with the expanding gasses. The laminate acts as a waterproofer, and keeps in enought oxygen to allow for oxidation and combustion of the grains. Which in turn means this weapon can theoretically be fired in the vaccum of space or in underwater conditions(Not Recommended). Another reason 4.7 and 5.7 were chosen as the weapons main ammunition choices were that the bullets begin to tumble after a rather short distance causing much hydrostatic shock. Which in turn equals lots, and lots of stopping power, and not only that but range shouldn't be a concern with bullet tumbling as range would be concerned with use of Rifles or SMG's. The weapon also featues ajustable barrel weight rods which are are packaged with the gun. The rods are weighed at 5 lbs meaning, when inserted, make the gun 10.5 lbs total. The small cast-iron knob located just above and infront of the trigger guard can move the rod to the users prefrence making kick and uncomfortable felt recoil only small niuscences.

// Specifications //

Caliber: .45 ASP Caseless Also Available in - (5.7/4.7x39 Caseless AS)
Overall Length Stock Extendde/Un-Extended: 25/11 Inches
Folding Stock Length: 1 foot
Barrel Length: 7.2 Inches
Muzzle Velocity: 2,905 FPS
Weight (Unloaded/Without Balancing Weight Rods): 5.5 Lbs
Rate of Fire:
Fastest Clock
2000 RPM
Normal Clock
800 RPM
Slowest Clock
10 RPM
Magazine Size: 40 Rounds Standard Magazine, or 20 round ultra-compact magazine, or 140 Round Beta C-Mag, or 80 Round Extended Mag.
Action: Short-Stroke Gas Piston
Modes of Fire: Semi-Auto, Full-Auto, Safety, and 2 Rnd Burst
Effective Range: 320 Meters
Price:$1850 USD

Nagona Weapons Inc. would like to offer you the Z-Series (http://home.att.net/~mlbr24/z.htm) of planes for your paratrooper needs. Depending on the number of paratroopers and for what purpose they will be used for, we suggest the Z-3 (http://home.att.net/~mlbr24/z.htm#z3) for smaller forces, the Z-7 (http://home.att.net/~mlbr24/z.htm#z7) for larger forces, the Z-11 (http://home.att.net/~mlbr24/z.htm#z11) for smaller, high altitude, low observability forces, and the Z-14 (http://home.att.net/~mlbr24/z.htm#z14) for middling, urban assault forces. All of these planes are competivly prices, and can be customized to your needs. Please contact Turk Nagona III for any clarifications on the data given abovel. Thank you for considering NWI for you defensive needs.

You are looking at around 1.3 Billion, depending on how much ammo you get..is that within your range? You should be hard pressed to find a better deal at this quality. Our profit intake on it is esseentially negligible, and the aircraft were inherited as part of an infrastructure deal.

I need 800,000 good and affordable assualt rifles, 200,000 good sub-machine guns, 30,000 Anti-Tank RPGs, 100,000 Machine guns, and if I can afford it, 50-100 Paratroop Planes.

Any offers?
ASSAULT RIFLES 400 M
SUBMACHINE GUNS 71 M

IF OPTING FOR RIFLE PROPELLED GRENADES THEN 2 M (for a standard AT grenade, or HT, or HEAT)
the machine guns are damn expensive, personally I'd opt for more IAR's unless you are using them for vehicle mounting. If ordering the IHMG-1 you are looking at approximately 400 M, these are 24 mm (wide) x 120mm (long) "cannons" they can use smart rounds, grenade rounds etc.. ammo price varies drastically by round type. a basic Armour peircing round will run anywhere from $2 to $4, the guns can use cyclender feed, or belt feed. 100 rounds per cylender belts come in 100 round inserts, there are also cartridges that have 20 rounds or 10 rounds (but are not that commonly used. computer systems can be used with these guns, but it would be extra, there are also automated pods for perimiter defence etc.. that costs extra though

the aircraft you are looking at around 400 Million for 100 converted 717 twinjets that can carry around 100 passengers (or if you'd like to give more standing room then the eisle around 50. ifyou don't like that aircraft we have others. Generally we use them for disaster releif, emergency evacuations, and cargo shipment.








that is a lot of guns. uhm

we can sell you a basic IAR-1 mk VI assualt rifle frame for $500 these guns use 12mm (wide) by 60mm (long) rounds. they are bullpup, composed of composite liquidmetal (a metal alloy), and cusioned ergonomic hand guards and thermal dispensers. The guns are gas fired, but can be fired without gas in semiauto (3 round burst) or single shot. (if the gas operated system fails)

There are many attachments, but cost. more info can be provided

cartridges are $20 with 40 rounds and the cartridge
a box of cartridges is $195 for 400 rounds
a case of cartridges is $1900 for 4000 rounds
order of 10,000 rounds can be purchased for $5000
orders of 100,000 rounds can be purchased for $48,000
orders of 1 million rounds can be purchased for $450,000
orders of 10 million rounds can be purchased for 4 million (our highest bulk order)

they also come in long cartridge (80 rounds (but can only be used in the front load not the rear load as there are two loading ports)



the IMP-1 mk III is a small submachinegun (called a machine pistol in iccd) it is 6mm by 24 mm and cartridges come in short and long, also made of liquid metal and the same thermal shock rasistant grips. These are light guns, used with armour peirching rounds, the ammo can be more effective.

cost: $300
stock overbody: $20 (comes with adjustable rear mounted stock
suggested othe additions:
bottom mount green laser detachable pen pointer and laser deisgator: $10 (can be attached to combat computer for ranging information combat handheld extra
silencer/flash nozzle: $20
gun cammo meshing: $5

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total modified unit price
$355

$10 per single cartridge
$500 for 1000 rounds (box)
$5000 for 15,000 (case)
$50,000 for 200,000 round
$500,000 for 2.5 million rounds (this is are largest order for the IMP rounds)

note that there are different round types, and prices may fluctuate depending on requested round type


other equipment and details are available


note we have rifle fired grenade systems, pricing can be done


the paratroop planes are questionable.. we can provide you with "cargo planes" such as the boeing 7 series, but they are relatively expensive. Alternatively we can provide "cheap small aircraft" that are used for training for the most part here, they arn't exactly military aircraft though.


feel open to post here for specific requests
http://z11.invisionfree.com/iccd/index.php?showforum=3