NationStates Jolt Archive

OOC:

I have had this idea in mind for quite some time. I have always been partial to the Ithkul a race of parasitic monsters that hunt sentient creatures and feed upon them. I have thus decided to Rp as my pseudo Ithkul race called the Kladth'u They are like the Ithkul with a few differences…


IC:


George Blair had been living on Havenia all his life. This isolated planet had been a long lost colony of some long lost space empire that had reigned and fallen several million cycles ago. The people had lived a very modern existence until that fateful day when the enemy had arrived.

George Blair had been working in the fields of his farm. The robotic harvester drones continued to reap and sow across the fields until around noon when the sky suddenly darkened under a giant shadow. George looked up to see a massive bio ship above his house. It was enormous and had a light teal bio skin with a thick layer of exoskeleton to serve as an armored hull.

This giant abomination began to unleash several bio spores that fell straight down from the atmosphere to surface of the planet . The bio spores upon impact would explode and destroy a large swath of territory. The blasts and impacts became a constant barrage until all life in the area around the bio ship was obliterated. The ship made a descent down towards the surface and slowly landed upon the planet’s surface.


George had managed to escape from the spore assault. He watched as his farm was being destroyed by the alien ship that was now starting to land upon the ruins of his farmland. His hover car was going as fast as possible towards the city. He listened to the radio listening for signs of traffic warnings and other sightings of these strange spacecraft that had sudden appeared out of nowhere. The radio was blazing with the emergency broad cast system. It was a planet wide emergency as hundreds of these strange bio ships had descended down upon Havenia.

The reports had also indicated that these ships had unleashed hundreds of human like creatures with what seemed be giant spiders wrapped around them. These creatures had launched a surprise attack upon the major population centers of the planet. They would begin systematically stun their victims and have them transported back to their ships. Their were also reports of giant spider like creatures stalking around and latching themselves upon the human residents of Havenia. This newly captured hosts would then join the hunt for their once beloved comrades. It was planet wide chaos and confusion. This was the first planet of fall before the Harvest Fleet of the Kladth'u…



The leaders of Havenia needed help to stop this scourge that had come to their peaceful home. They sent a wide beam transmission seeking any sign of help from their fellow neighbors in the stars….

Sending Transmission….


To: To our brothers and sisters in the Stars
From: The Havenian Council of Five
Subject: Help!!!

This is a plea for help. The planet of Havenia is under direct attack from any unknown enemy. They have begun a massive assault upon our planet. They have single handedly wiped out our farming communities and landed several hundred space craft of unknown type upon our planet. These monsters are currently over running our cities and communities in what could be guess as a massive abduction operation. They have brought several spider like creatures that have begun hunting as like prey and latching themselves on us. We have begun fighting back but our Planetary guard is highly obsolete and not even properly prepared to fight an enemy this advanced. They seemed to be stunning those that do not resist and sending back to their ships. They have started to use more lethal weaponry that they have deploying against our military and law enforcement personal. Their weaponry seems to be biologically based. We desperately need help, please save us from this ghastly fate that has befallen us!

End Transmission…



Command Deck of the Harvester Hound..


The Harvester Mothership was still in orbit over the planet. It massive size and it’s powerful exoskeleton made it the largest living body above the planet slightly bigger than the small moon that orbited Havenia. This powerful Leviathan trained it’s powerful Spore batteries upon the military instillations of the planet. The spores had easily taken out the planets docking ports, defense satellites and even the star fighter base located on the moon. It would have been a matter of weeks before this highly populated planet was completely harvested but with the loss of most of the planets defenses it seemed to be a matter of mere days for the massive fleet of bio ships that were around the planet like wolves to a dying elk.


The commander of the Fleet was called the Second. He was an ancient Kladth'u that was directly related to the First himself. He had thus be given command over the largest Harvester Fleet within the Kladth'u Star Dominion. The Dominion’s goals had always been the same they sought to feed. The hunger of billions of their kind had to be sated and many worlds would lose their populations to feed the ever expanding parasite race known as the Kladth’u. The telepathic hive mind of the Kladth’u had easily picked up the message from the planet. This was a golden opportunity for the Kladth’u if help came to stop their Harvest it would mean more sentient beings to feed upon. It was chance of a life time. The Second ordered the remaining ship’s to begin using their chameleon skin to hide in the shadows. This rescuers would soon find themselves in a deadly trap…..

What the Second dind't know, was that an Asfaltic recognisance ship was allready present, and had witnessed all these happenings. The cloaked ship silently floated in a nearby asteroid belt, scanning the surroundings with it's high-tech sensors, estimating numbers, categorizing and gathering information. The Captain had had a rough night, and this situation came somewhat as a shock. "Well," he said to his crew "I guess we should immediately report back to base... this is the golden opportunity the Defence Industry has been waiting for... to test their battle droids, soldiers, chemical/biological weapons... and whatever we've developed in recent years." He said this somewhat unentusiastic. "I feel sorry for the planet... I don't think they have a chance... unless the king decides to send reenforcements, but that rarely happens. Helmsman, take us back to base." - "Yes, sir!" the helmsman replied, bringing the ship into slip-stream. "Those aliens will probably detect our departure, but who cares... might do them some good, knowing they're not the only ones here..." the Captain sleepily thought.

OOC: mind if I join? This sounds interresting...

OOC: Sure, I left the thread open..

IC:


The Second was resting in his command pod. The ancient creature continued to stare at the planet that was slowly losing it’s sentient creatures to the waves of Kladth’u drone soldiers. The sudden presence of another ship was detected as it jumped out of the system. The Second growled that such a morsel had managed to escape. The Second wondered if the jump that was detected by the ship’s mind was an escaping vessel or a foreign one. The Second ordered a chameleon cloaked cruiser to follow the trail of the escaping ship. The cruiser’s mission was to find the ship and report back via hive mind. They would then begin to harvest the occupants of the vessel. The fools had now drawn the attention of the Kladth’u.

OOC :
Nice intro . I'm in .

IC :

The Imperial Council's senators and admirals sat , trannsfixed at the hologram in the middle of the room and the pleas of help . Apparently a unknown breed of aliens had just warped out from no-where and were mercilessly picking up human prisoners in what appeared to be a massed harvest .

Once the holotape was cut , the council rorared to life as senators and admirals were shouting at their top of their lungs , voicing support or objection to aid being provided .

The Emperor's thunderous voice rang throughout the council as he called for silence . Immediately there was silence , nothing could be heard except for the faint humming of the Air Recycler and the whizzing of the droids running to and fro assisting their masters in administrational matters .

After several hours of tedious discussions , a majority vote was in favour of aiding the victims to reclaim their lost people and to take back the land . More importantly it was crucial to stop this menance in its tracks .

A VC-20 Stealth Recon Ship was dispatched to monitor the situation and record vital data about the planet , its geography and the new aliens invaders . After several days of monitoring , it transmitted the data back to base and returned .

A Imperial Flotilla Force was readied to assist in the halting of these mysterious and dangerous aliens ...

The arrival of the Mationbuds flotilla was quickly detected by the probing psychic hive mind of the bio ships. The Harvester Mothership was the only orbital vessel that was not bothering to use’s it’s chameleon skin. The rest of the Fleet that was in orbit however were hidden and ready.


They had taken positions on the other side of the planet hoping to draw the enemy closer towards the Harvester Mothership. The Mationbud ship’s would then be swarmed from around the planet in a surprise attack. The goal was to catch them by surprise and begin the assault against them.


The planet was still being ravaged by the Kladth’u Drone Soldiers these great terrors continued to ravage the planet’s inhabitants with acid casters and web launchers. They even employed paralyzing stun venom and more lethal fast acting venom to kill resisting targets. The defenders deployed their trusty blasters and phase rifles only to be swamped by their enemies superior numbers and unified tactics that kept the Drones able to out maneuver the confused and panic stricken humans


Command Deck of the Harvester Hound..

The Second watched the prey enter the system. They had come as predicted and more promptly than expected. It would be a interesting to see what kind of sentient beings these things were. The Second gave the universal command to unleash the first barrage of bio spores. The Spore batteries unleashed their ammunition upon the enemy a wave of living spore organisms speed at fast speeds to strike the hulls and shields of the enemy fleet. The initial shelling was to lure the prey closer to try and use heavier weapons to kill the Harvester Mothership. That would play exactly to the Second’s hands as over eight hundred bio ships waited behind the planet ready to spring their surprise attack

*TAG* for possible participation

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[B][I]End Translation...The Watch Officer considered what it had heard.

Obviously, it was a distress signal. Ordinarily, they would have had little interest in responding to a distress call, other than to look in and see what salvage could be obtained. But this was different: an invasion of some kind was afoot. Getting involved might be a bad idea.

And yet even a rescue mission could have its benefits. Then, too, there was the prospect for battle, which was always preferable to boredom.

“Sound General Quarters and summon the Captain,” it said. The Beta complied.

OOC: Sure, I left the thread open..
IC:
The Second was resting in his command pod. The ancient creature continued to stare at the planet that was slowly losing it’s sentient creatures to the waves of Kladth’u drone soldiers. The sudden presence of another ship was detected as it jumped out of the system. The Second growled that such a morsel had managed to escape. The Second wondered if the jump that was detected by the ship’s mind was an escaping vessel or a foreign one. The Second ordered a chameleon cloaked cruiser to follow the trail of the escaping ship. The cruiser’s mission was to find the ship and report back via hive mind. They would then begin to harvest the occupants of the vessel. The fools had now drawn the attention of the Kladth’u.

OOC: nice to have you in, Mationbuds. Btw, how many ships does an Imperial Flotilla consist of?

IC:
Unfortunately for the Kladth'u, their technology was not familiar with the principles of slip-stream travel, and thus, the Asfaltic cloaked ship could easily shake them off. After which they proceeded to report to base, informing the government off what was going on. The King decided (together with the consent of the government) to send a tactical task-force to assist the ravaged planet. The task-force consisted of 80 ships: 70 ship-of-the-line, 5 carriers, 4 seismic-attack ships and the HMS Impreza, sistership of the HMS Ventura.

The HMS Impreza was hardly what one would call an ordinary ship.
It was, simply speeking, a giant metall asteroid (40 km in diameter) hollowed out and filled with armor, fighter-craft and weapons, like a croissant filled with jam. The majority of it's weaponry consisted of ballistic missiles (30% with nuclear war-heads). Small ones, medium ones, large ones, big ones, and giant ones. Lots of 'em. The rest of the weaponry consisted of phasers, anti-matter torpedoes, photon torpedoes, laser cutting-beams, plasma cannons, concentrated gamma beams and last but not least electronic shock-burst cannons, that could severely cripple or leave fighter-craft dead in the air... if there was any air.

And then there were the mines, that could be instantaneously spread around the ship, creating a perimiter that seriously inhibited the approach of hostile ships and fighter-craft. Instead of having just one big shield, the ship had one main shield as well as thousands of smaller ones spread across the surface, like the scales of an alligator. It was the HMS Impreza of the Asfaltic fleet, known by most as "the night-train", since its captains often used it's shear mass to run over enemy ships, instead of actually firing at them. It was powered by four giant (classified) main reactor engines together with hundreds of smaller ones, and it utilised the Slip-stream method for deep space voyages, which made it visible on enemy sensors for about 2 seconds before it appeared.

Most Asfaltic armed ships were built on the concept that quality is better than numbers, and even if Asfaltum didn't have a large fleet, it still had quite a lethal punch.

Most ships were built on the following design:
The main body of the ship was a cylinder. The whole cylinder was lined with unmanned gun-decks, thus giving it a 360 degrees angle fire-power. Not only that, but when activated, this cylinder would start rotating. Why? Simple. After a gun-deck had fired off a volley, it would be "replaced" by the next gun-deck who would promptly let off another volley, without having to wait for the guns to reload. This way, an Asfaltic ship could engage 3 enemys at a time. By the time an Imperial Star Destroyer would have fired its guns, reloaded and fired again, an Asfaltic Ship-of-the-Line would have already fired off 6 gun-decks, and still be going strong. Add that to the fact that damage is greatly spread, and you have a battle-ship designers' dream.


The task-force dropped out of slip-stream a couple of seconds after the Mationbuds fleet. Immediately they knew something was wrong. Comparing the number of enemy ships to the number of ships that the recognisance ship had spotted, it was obvious that something didn't add up. They immediately sent a brief warning to the Mationbuds fleet:
WARNING: Our forces have detected a possible ambush, beware. Our last count showed 800 enemy ships.

Aboard the HMS Impreza:
General Maximus looked at the screen. "Order all ships to take up defensive positions." he ordered. "We'll let the suckers come to us." he thought.

OOC :
Hey Asfaltum , thanks . Its nice to see ya too .

And a flotilla consists of :
-1 Wraith SSD
-4 Imperial MkIII Star Destroyers
-6 VictoryII Star Destroyers
-2 Interdictor Cruisers
-2 VenatorII Star Destroyers
-Smaller assorted cruisers and frigates

IC :

Fleet Admiral Ronnie sat in the circular command chair as the image of the stricken planet hovered before him and his command staff which were all attending the meeting ... via holograms that is .

That was when their com-links beeped simultaneously , upon hearing the message , they immediately turned to the Admiral to await his orders .

"Hmm , it appears the enemy have a ambush waiting for us heh . We shall turn this to our advantage . Immediately start sensor scans and weed out those cowards . Tag all enemy ships so they wont hide from us again ."

"Aye sir !" the ship captains shouted in unison .

The ships immediately began scanning the area using advanced scanning technology to 'feel' out and tag the hidden ships .

The flotilla then retreated back to friendly lines to meet up with the Asfaltum fleet before planning a possible coordinated assualt .

A message was beamed to them , encrypted frequency :

"Greetings . We thank you for the warning in advance . We are now moving to your position to form a combined defensive formation first . We can then plan our attacks and launch a coordinated and planned one which will throw them off guard totally . Out ."

OOC: Mationbuds, You do realize your flotilla is being barraged with a lot of small fast biological organisms that explode on impact?

IC:

The Harvester Mothership held it’s position the psychic sensors of the hive mind continued to probe the enemy fleet looking for weak points to exploit. The bio spores continued to pound the enemy ships that were visible. The sudden arrival of more ship’s had been unexpected their numbers could make this a more difficult battle for the Kldath’u.

The Second ordered his ship's much more destructive weapons against the now increased enemy armada that had suddenly appeared. The Harvester Mothership unleashed a several exoskeleton needles. These massive skeletal missiles sped towards the enemy vessels. The needles would act like giant mass drivers smashing into the solid mass of the enemy vessels cutting into their armor and hopefully breaking into the crew's quarters.


The Second quickly figured that he needed to reinforce his forces in space. He gave a general call to his drones to fall back to their bio ships. It was a glorious sight for the beleaguered defenders of the planet. The aliens had been laying wave after wave of suppressive fire as they started to give ground in a rather quick withdrawal from the cities. The Kldath’u drones had even quit hunting the local populace and they had started getting into their ships. It would be a matter of a fifteen minutes before they all were ready to take off. This would increase the Harvester Fleets numbers by an additional 200 hundred bio ships.


The remaining 800 were all prepared to begin their strike against the Mationbuds and Asfaltic once they reach strike range.


The Second waited for the enemy to make their move…..

The bio spores didn't do any significant damage to the Asfaltic fleet, and the skeletal missiles were easily avoided by slipping in and out of slip-stream. After joining forces with the Mationbuds fleet, the ships took up defence positions and General Maximus sent the following encrypted message to Admiral Ronnie:
Thank you for joining. As you see, the aliens are retreating from the planet, which is very good, but this means that we will have to face an extended enemy force. You wouldn't possibly consider bringing in some more of your ships? The enemy is undoubtedly preparing an attack, the shots fired from the mothership are evidently just to "keep us busy". My 4 seismic-attack ships have started to engage the mothership, hopefully disabling it. This is only temporary, though, since we will soon "have company". I suggest that we remain in our current position, forming a wall of fire towards all attackers, should they decide to attack.

The four Asfaltic seismic attack-ships pointed their seismic guns towards the Harvester Mothership. Then they fired. The concept on which the seismic gun was based was simple; creating a "earth-quake" in the enemy ship.

Aboard the HMS Impreza:
"The seismic attack-ships are firing, sir!" "For the moment they are at 5 on the richter skala... 6... 7... 8... they have reached 10 richters, sir."
"Good, keep firing." ordered Maximus.

OOC: I hope you don't mind my response, Deatharon, but my ships are very well-built and considering that they are engaging a force widely superior in numbers... well, let's just say I'm going to put up a fight... :-P

Btw... I wont be posting tomorrow... see you on Friday... save the action for me :-)

OOC: Mationbuds, You do realize your flotilla is being barraged with a lot of small fast biological organisms that explode on impact?

IC:

The Harvester Mothership held it’s position the psychic sensors of the hive mind continued to probe the enemy fleet looking for weak points to exploit. The bio spores continued to pound the enemy ships that were visible. The sudden arrival of more ship’s had been unexpected their numbers could make this a more difficult battle for the Kldath’u.

The Second ordered his ship's much more destructive weapons against the now increased enemy armada that had suddenly appeared. The Harvester Mothership unleashed a several exoskeleton needles. These massive skeletal missiles sped towards the enemy vessels. The needles would act like giant mass drivers smashing into the solid mass of the enemy vessels cutting into their armor and hopefully breaking into the crew's quarters.


The Second quickly figured that he needed to reinforce his forces in space. He gave a general call to his drones to fall back to their bio ships. It was a glorious sight for the beleaguered defenders of the planet. The aliens had been laying wave after wave of suppressive fire as they started to give ground in a rather quick withdrawal from the cities. The Kldath’u drones had even quit hunting the local populace and they had started getting into their ships. It would be a matter of a fifteen minutes before they all were ready to take off. This would increase the Harvester Fleets numbers by an additional 200 hundred bio ships.


The remaining 800 were all prepared to begin their strike against the Mationbuds and Asfaltic once they reach strike range.


The Second waited for the enemy to make their move…..


IC :

The shields of the Capital Ships held firm as the biospores did little or no damage . However the smaller Frigates and Light Cruisers had to retreat to the protection of the larger vessels .

Cyroban Waves were emmited from the Super Star Destroyer in a controlled pulse and area , these waves killed all living things within its contact , thus the biospores were slain by the millions .

The bio spores didn't do any significant damage to the Asfaltic fleet, and the skeletal missiles were easily avoided by slipping in and out of slip-stream. After joining forces with the Mationbuds fleet, the ships took up defence positions and General Maximus sent the following encrypted message to Admiral Ronnie:


The four Asfaltic seismic attack-ships pointed their seismic guns towards the Harvester Mothership. Then they fired. The concept on which the seismic gun was based was simple; creating a "earth-quake" in the enemy ship.

Aboard the HMS Impreza:
"The seismic attack-ships are firing, sir!" "For the moment they are at 5 on the richter skala... 6... 7... 8... they have reached 10 richters, sir."
"Good, keep firing." ordered Maximus.

OOC: I hope you don't mind my response, Deatharon, but my ships are very well-built and considering that they are engaging a force widely superior in numbers... well, let's just say I'm going to put up a fight... :-P

Btw... I wont be posting tomorrow... see you on Friday... save the action for me :-)

IC :

Once the flotilla was in position , Admiral Ronnie beamed a reply to General Maximus .

"Acknowledged . At this point of time we are requesting for reinforcements . Imperial Navy Head Quarters has confirmed our request and as we speak , an entire Imperial Battle Fleet is on its way . Each of the 8 fleets pack enough power to subdue an entire star system . We should then be able to handle the aliens ."

========================Meanwhile==========================

IC :

True to his word , Sith Lord and Imperial Regent as well as Grand Admiral Darth Bane strode on the bridge of the MIN Victorious , a 30 km long vessel known as the SovereignII Super Star Destroyer .

The newest class introduced to the Imperial Navy , it was armed with 3 superlasers , just one short to the superior Tyrant Super Star Destroyer .

As the fleet engaged hyperspace drives , he began discussing their plans with the fleet's command crew .

On the Bridge of the Battlecruiser Dark Wind

As the battlecruiser passed within 150AU of the beleaguered planet, an astonishing sight unfolded before it: two vast fleets were hammering each other. On one side, there were over a hundred capital ships and countless fighters, all of more or less conventional design, although one in particular was huge, appearing to be a hollowed-out asteroid with engines, bristling with weapons; on the other, over a thousand capital ships were attempting to overwhelm them, these vessels being of an unusual organic design, similar to Pentapod spacecraft.

In the face of such a conflict, one battlecruiser meant little; nonetheless, as the battle progressed, Dark Wind's Captain saw the organic fleet – apparently the force whose attacks on a small terrestrial planet in this system had led to the transmission of the distress signal – begin pulling its forces off the planet's surface to engage their enemy. This left an opening that might be exploited; a single warship moving rapidly might be able to slip in unnoticed and drop off a small landing party.

There was tremendous danger to everyone aboard Dark Wind and especially those who would constitute the expeditionary force. But danger was what the Vah lived for, and so the lure was irresistible.

The warship zipped in to the stutterwarp threshhold at over a thousand times the speed of light, and then dropped to about .13c as it approached the hapless world whose fate rode on the outcome of the battle raging nearby.

OOC: Vah warships have gravitational sensors; no body in the universe can hide its mass without creating an even greater ripple in space-time itself, which such sensors can also detect. Likewise, the gravitational presence of a mass can not be masked by another object; contemporary (early 21st Century RL) gravity sensors are not occluded by the passage of one planet in front of another.

IC:

The Harvester Mothership had taken a sever beating from the enemy’s seismic guns. The ship’s first layer of exoskeleton had already cracked and nearly broken off from the ship’s body. The second exoskeleton was also feeling the tremors that had wrecked the first layer of the ship’s skeletal structure.

The Second could feel the pain that his ship was feeling. He ordered several drones to begin the repair process. The drones began to activate the Mothership’s repair cells. The ship’s internal organs began to dissolve and digest the drones molecular structure. The drones would be converted to create billions of little tiny repair cells. These cells would begin the repair process on the damaged exoskeleton.


The Mothership psychic sensors could sense the loss of the millions of bio spores they had exploded prematurely. This meant the enemy had weapons developed to fight against biological weapons and ships. The Second took this into account and ordered his ship to begin moving away from the enemy fleet.


The chameleon disguised bio ships hidden behind the planet were given the order to begin their assault. The fleet came in from opposite sides of the planet meaning four hundred ships came from the right and left sides of the planet. They had quickly ditched the chameleon forms and began to unless their own volley’s of bio spores..


These millions of bio spores headed towards both enemy fleets providing cover for the damaged mothership. They started to form a massive wave of exploding death that would be hard for even the best automated point defense lasers stop.


The Second’s sensors picked up the Vah vessel. It did not appear part of the prey’s force but their movement towards the planet seemed rather suspicious as the 200 bio ships began their ascent towards space. The Second decided to order several hundred bio spores to keep them away from the reinforcements.

The 200 reinforcements fired exactly two hundred bio spores at the stern of the Vah ship. It was hoped they would get the message and stay away from the feeding ground…


OOC:

Asfaltum: Okay, My forces basically use their numbers and bio weapons to achieve victory. They would be useless against an enemy that is highly advanced with anti-biological weapons. I can thus understand your reasoning for being difficult to defeat.

Kafers: Your sensors basically detect the gravity emitted from my ships? If so wouldn't the mass of the planet make it difficult to detect the individual gravities of the fleet?

Bump....

IC:

The Harvester Mothership had taken a sever beating from the enemy’s seismic guns. The ship’s first layer of exoskeleton had already cracked and nearly broken off from the ship’s body. The second exoskeleton was also feeling the tremors that had wrecked the first layer of the ship’s skeletal structure.

The Second could feel the pain that his ship was feeling. He ordered several drones to begin the repair process. The drones began to activate the Mothership’s repair cells. The ship’s internal organs began to dissolve and digest the drones molecular structure. The drones would be converted to create billions of little tiny repair cells. These cells would begin the repair process on the damaged exoskeleton.


The Mothership psychic sensors could sense the loss of the millions of bio spores they had exploded prematurely. This meant the enemy had weapons developed to fight against biological weapons and ships. The Second took this into account and ordered his ship to begin moving away from the enemy fleet.


The chameleon disguised bio ships hidden behind the planet were given the order to begin their assault. The fleet came in from opposite sides of the planet meaning four hundred ships came from the right and left sides of the planet. They had quickly ditched the chameleon forms and began to unless their own volley’s of bio spores..


These millions of bio spores headed towards both enemy fleets providing cover for the damaged mothership. They started to form a massive wave of exploding death that would be hard for even the best automated point defense lasers stop.


The Second’s sensors picked up the Vah vessel. It did not appear part of the prey’s force but their movement towards the planet seemed rather suspicious as the 200 bio ships began their ascent towards space. The Second decided to order several hundred bio spores to keep them away from the reinforcements.

The 200 reinforcements fired exactly two hundred bio spores at the stern of the Vah ship. It was hoped they would get the message and stay away from the feeding ground…


OOC:

Asfaltum: Okay, My forces basically use their numbers and bio weapons to achieve victory. They would be useless against an enemy that is highly advanced with anti-biological weapons. I can thus understand your reasoning for being difficult to defeat.

Kafers: Your sensors basically detect the gravity emitted from my ships? If so wouldn't the mass of the planet make it difficult to detect the individual gravities of the fleet?

IC :

The Empire Protectorate Starfleet emerged out from hyperspace just when the attack started . The fleet's 4 Super Star Destroyer's swung into defensive formations and discharged wave after wave of Cyroban Pulses , killing off the biospores . This process was aided by the pluses discharged from the Super Star Destroyer attached to the attack flotilla .

The fleet's countless number of starships from Star Destroyers to Star Cruisers to Frigates all opened fire with their newly upgraded Point Defense Guns which blasted even more biospores from the space .

However one unlucky Frigate has its shields pounded so badly until it collapsed and suffered massive hull breaches and had to be recalled from duty .

In retaliation the fleet opened fire with 50 Singularity Shells which exploded right beside the chamellion ships into a huge black hole ...

On the Bridge of the Battlecruiser Black Wind

“Incoming fire!” snapped the Black Wind's Tactical Officer. “Over two hundred contacts!”

That's far too many to fend off, thought the warship's Captain. “Full about and maximum speed!” it snapped to its Helm Officer.

They would try to outrun the incoming fire.

OOC: 200 spores on a single ship?!? That's a great big, “Get lost!” if I ever saw one. At even a modest hit rate of 10%, any ship struck by twenty missiles of almost any kind would likely be blasted into atoms. What are these things, and what kind of damage to they do? Are they proximity weapons, or contact weapons? I'll need that information to know if my vessel ends up merely being crippled or gets incinerated outright.

As for outrunning your attack, my maximum speed this close in-system is just over .115c. I'd likely detect your attack at about one light-minute (~18,000,000 km), so I'll use this to figure out how far I'll end up running before meeting an end.

As for gravitational sensors, a fleet of hundreds of ships is hard to hide; then, too, I am assuming your vessels mass a few thousand tons each (at a minimum). That's a lot of mass, and if it's in orbit above a planet (~100 km or more away), it'll definitely show up as something separate from the planet itself.

IOW, hiding individual ships close in is practical; hiding huge fleets in orbit is not.

IC:

The Harvester Mothership had taken a sever beating from the enemy’s seismic guns. The ship’s first layer of exoskeleton had already cracked and nearly broken off from the ship’s body. The second exoskeleton was also feeling the tremors that had wrecked the first layer of the ship’s skeletal structure.
The Second could feel the pain that his ship was feeling. He ordered several drones to begin the repair process. The drones began to activate the Mothership’s repair cells. The ship’s internal organs began to dissolve and digest the drones molecular structure. The drones would be converted to create billions of little tiny repair cells. These cells would begin the repair process on the damaged exoskeleton.
The Mothership psychic sensors could sense the loss of the millions of bio spores they had exploded prematurely. This meant the enemy had weapons developed to fight against biological weapons and ships. The Second took this into account and ordered his ship to begin moving away from the enemy fleet.
The chameleon disguised bio ships hidden behind the planet were given the order to begin their assault. The fleet came in from opposite sides of the planet meaning four hundred ships came from the right and left sides of the planet. They had quickly ditched the chameleon forms and began to unless their own volley’s of bio spores..
These millions of bio spores headed towards both enemy fleets providing cover for the damaged mothership. They started to form a massive wave of exploding death that would be hard for even the best automated point defense lasers stop.
The Second’s sensors picked up the Vah vessel. It did not appear part of the prey’s force but their movement towards the planet seemed rather suspicious as the 200 bio ships began their ascent towards space. The Second decided to order several hundred bio spores to keep them away from the reinforcements.
The 200 reinforcements fired exactly two hundred bio spores at the stern of the Vah ship. It was hoped they would get the message and stay away from the feeding ground…

OOC:
Asfaltum: Okay, My forces basically use their numbers and bio weapons to achieve victory. They would be useless against an enemy that is highly advanced with anti-biological weapons. I can thus understand your reasoning for being difficult to defeat.
Kafers: Your sensors basically detect the gravity emitted from my ships? If so wouldn't the mass of the planet make it difficult to detect the individual gravities of the fleet?

IC:
Aboard the HMS Impreza the command bridge was silent. General Maximus had just screamed "Shit!", which isn't a very potent word, but non-the-less very intimidating when coming from Maximus, who was a person who usually could face thousands of enemy ships while remaining completely calm. After having reported back to HQ, according to regulations, the Asfaltic fleet had recieved a somewhat confusing order: the order to withdraw. Since the Alien fleet had stopped its attack on the planet, which had been the main reason for sending a task-force, there was no reason to let the task-force stay there and face an eventual battle, reasoned the Asfaltic Admirals. Therefore they had ordered the withdrawel of General Maximus and his forces. Of course, the King was only using this as an excuse to withdraw and prepare the forces for a new attack; he didn't want to tell this to Maximus, since transmissions might be intercepted. Meanwhile, Maximus was oblivious to all this, even though he was starting to suspect that the King had a plan. "Well," he said "we will leave, but we won't leave without saying good-bye. Inform the Mationbuds forces of our departure, now that their reinforcements have arrived they might not really mind..." "Yes, sir!" said a crew-member, and the following message was sent:
Our forces have unfortunately recieved the order to withdraw. Until the next battle, good aiming and kick ass.

The 4 Seismic attack-ships unleashed a wide range shock-wave towards the Alien forces, while the HMS Ventura unleashed a wave of anti-matter missiles. Then, they entered slip-stream, returning to their home-planet.

OOC: Unfortunately, I won't be able to post on the forum from tomorrow (Saturday) until next Monday (one week later). If this thread is still alive by then, I will join in again. In the meantime, have fun.

OOC:

Kafers: The attack was meant to cripple your ship. The Kldath’u's main goals are to weaken enemy ships and cripple them. The bio-ships then attach themselves to the enemy ship and try to establish a breach. The Kldath’u drones then swarm inside the enemy ship and begin to harvest or kill the crew. The 200 Spores are contact weapons and they are not very accurate. They are created by the bio ship inside it’s body and are moved by several muscles and organs into the bio spore batteries. The Batteries are manned by a Drone gunner whom aims at his target and fires. These weapons are meant to strike against the enemy’s shields and armor and explode. They are mostly used to cripple enemy ships and begin the Harvest process against the crew. The downside is the enemy can evade my fire and it’s like dodging a rock. You can sometimes avoid being hit if your fast enough.


OOC: Mationbuds: A weapon that creates a black hole would utterly destroy the planet. The bio ships are really close to the planets orbit and firing such a weapon would have wiped out the planet, 400 bio ships and the probably the Vah vessel and my additional 200 bio vessels.



IC:

The Second watched from his Command Pod as more prey entered the system. They fired some sort of weapon that created a black hole. The Second could not believe his eyes, these morons who had come to save this world had doomed it. The black hole slowly began to suck the 400 bio ships. Space time relativity was slowed thanks to the hazardous effects of the Black hole but the second knew his forces were doomed.


He barely managed to get his own ship out of the black holes range. The Harvest master sent a distress call back to First. It would take a few moments before Second would be given the ability to Psy warp out of the system…

OOC:

Kafers: The attack was meant to cripple your ship. The Kldath’u's main goals are to weaken enemy ships and cripple them. The bio-ships then attach themselves to the enemy ship and try to establish a breach. The Kldath’u drones then swarm inside the enemy ship and begin to harvest or kill the crew. The 200 Spores are contact weapons and they are not very accurate. They are created by the bio ship inside it’s body and are moved by several muscles and organs into the bio spore batteries. The Batteries are manned by a Drone gunner whom aims at his target and fires. These weapons are meant to strike against the enemy’s shields and armor and explode. They are mostly used to cripple enemy ships and begin the Harvest process against the crew. The downside is the enemy can evade my fire and it’s like dodging a rock. You can sometimes avoid being hit if your fast enough.


OOC: Mationbuds: A weapon that creates a black hole would utterly destroy the planet. The bio ships are really close to the planets orbit and firing such a weapon would have wiped out the planet, 400 bio ships and the probably the Vah vessel and my additional 200 bio vessels.



IC:

The Second watched from his Command Pod as more prey entered the system. They fired some sort of weapon that created a black hole. The Second could not believe his eyes, these morons who had come to save this world had doomed it. The black hole slowly began to suck the 400 bio ships. Space time relativity was slowed thanks to the hazardous effects of the Black hole but the second knew his forces were doomed.


He barely managed to get his own ship out of the black holes range. The Harvest master sent a distress call back to First. It would take a few moments before Second would be given the ability to Psy warp out of the system…


OOC :
A small controlled one shouldnt affect the planet .

IC :

"Sir , the enemy appears to be retreating !"

"Excellent . Sub Force 1 will push forward and wipe them out ."

"Yes sir !"

The order was given and soon the sub force consisting of 1 Wraith Super Star Destroyer , 4 Imperial Star Destroyers , 6 VictoryII Star Destroyers , 2 Interdictor Cruisers and hundreds of smaller Frigates and Destroyers detached from the fleet formation and headed towards the enemy fleet , guns blazing .

Cyroban Waves crashed into the enemy bio ships and would effectively kill them . If not thousands of Proton Torpedoes , Concussion Missiles and Photon Torpedoes carrying anti-matter warheads would do the trick .

Phaser bolts , Disruptor Beams , Turbolaser shots and Ion Cannon pulses also slammed into the enemy fleet and thus the damage would be severe ...

OOC: Sorry, Mationbuds, but Deatharon is right. For a black hole to be an effective anti-fleet weapon, it must have a mass equal to that of hundreds – if not thousands – of suns. This is easy to see: typically, fleet formations result in ships being spread out across hundreds of thousands of even millions of kilometers; the primitive spacecraft we have in the present day (i.e., in RL) can easily avoid falling into the sun at the pitiful velocities we can now achieve; how much easier would it be for futuristic fleets with drives capable of achieving significant percentages of light speed to escape paltry little black holes whose masses are only, say, that of a few dozen suns?

Besides...In retaliation the fleet opened fire with 50 Singularity Shells which exploded right beside the chamellion ships into a huge black hole ... OOC: Mationbuds: A weapon that creates a black hole would utterly destroy the planet. The bio ships are really close to the planets orbit and firing such a weapon would have wiped out the planet, 400 bio ships and the probably the Vah vessel and my additional 200 bio vessels. OOC :
A small controlled one shouldnt affect the planet .Either it's a “huge black hole” or a “small controlled one”; it can't be both at once (and what in G_d's name is a “controlled” black hole anyway?). Since a “small” black hole (anything whose mass is less than one Jupiter) would do absolutely nothing to a fleet of futuristic warships (most FT spacecraft could escape from Jupiter's gravity well without breaking a sweat), it really needs to be “huge” (several hundred or even several thousand solar masses, if not larger) to endanger a fleet, as explained above.

But even a minuscule (Earth- or Moon-sized) black hole would disrupt the planet, destroying all life on it in a matter of days from tidal disruption; a “small” one (Jupiter-sized) would break the planet up in hours; a “large” one (a few suns) in minutes, and a “huge” one (as described above) in seconds. You can't have it both ways: any black hole big enough to threaten a fleet will destroy the planet (or - less likely - send it spinning out of orbit and into the cosmic void).

As for your spores, Deatharon, I'm not sure if they're trivial weapons or awesome ones. Given your description of what they did to the planet, I figured them for low- to sub-KT range weapons (similar to MT thermobaric munitions). Anything in that range will devastate a ship if it hits (remember, back in the debate over whether to build an H-bomb, Dr. Robert J. Oppenheimer stated [correctly] that nothing can survive a direct hit from a 150KT warhead – there's just too much heat and energy there for matter to resist utter vaporization [and no shield could ever dissipate that heat fast enough for the underlying armor to survive]).

From their lack of onboard guidance and (I suspect) their speed, I could probably evade them all (I have transating micro-warp drives, as described in a paper by Dr. Paul Hoiland and Dr. Edward Halerewicz, Jr. in their reference paper for the now-defunct Advanced Theoretical Physics Group [ATPG] (http://members.tripod.com/da_theoretical1/warpcourse.pdf); these drives are inertialess, providing me with tremendous tactical maneuverability; unguided weapons are almost certainly going to miss such a ship). But since Mationbud's black hole weapon will, as you have surmised, consume the whole system, I'm going down with everybody else; the gravity wave produced by the creation of a “huge black hole” (as called for initially) would necessarily take my warp drives offline and leave me a veritable sitting duck. C'est la guerre.

Wankery invariably destroys a thread. Before unleashing godly powers, or resorting to tactics that rely on overkill, you should carefully consider whether or not your interest in “winning” isn't counterproductive. We all want to win, in a certain sense – but unleashing energies of cosmic proportions in pursuit of that goal seldom results in any kind of “win” that is at all enjoyable, if it results in a “win” at all.Cyroban Waves crashed into the enemy bio ships and would effectively kill them . If not thousands of Proton Torpedoes , Concussion Missiles and Photon Torpedoes carrying anti-matter warheads would do the trick .

Phaser bolts , Disruptor Beams , Turbolaser shots and Ion Cannon pulses also slammed into the enemy fleet and thus the damage would be severe ...I take it that you're totally bored with this thread and just want it to end so that you can move onto the next and equally pointless encounter?

Tens of Millions of Kilometers From the Planet

The initial concern at being targeted by two hundred alien projectiles faded quickly; Black Wind appeared capable of outrunning them with ease. The battlecruiser's Captain and Tactical Officer began discussing plans for a second approach when a shudder and a groan ran through the vessel; as they did so, the warp drives gave out.

“Report!” growled the Captain.

“Gravity wave,” intoned the ship's Beta, still not displaying much emotion. “A large singularity has formed near the planet; we're now within that body's inner tensor limit.”

The Captain's heart sank. Within the inner tensor liimit, the efficiency of the vessel's warp drives were no longer sufficient to overcome local gravitational attraction; in fact, they were no longer capable of producing any effective velocity at all.

“Kill the drives altogether,” it commanded. “How far are we from the operational threshold?”

The Beta paused, and then answered: “117.3 AU. That's...”

“I know how far that is!” the Captain snapped. With inertial propulsion, we'll be there in a century or so....

“The enemy projectiles are still coming,” Tactical observed, “They're inertial.”

“Is the gravitational influence of that ... thing,” spat the Captain, “Slowing them down?”

“Not enough,” replied the Tactical Officer, voice full of discouragement. “Impact in 7 minutes, 23 seconds...”

Seven Minutes Later

Black Wind drifted, dead in space. The ship had turned its bow towards the enemy barrage, to reduce its profile and maximize its defensive fire. As the spores bore in, a mixture or lasers and neutral particle beams erupted, striking several of the incoming projectiles.

It wasn't enough.

Three of the projectiles struck Black Wind head on, shattering its hull and sending it spinning. As it spun, two more struck the battlecruiser, breaking it in half and causing its hydrogen fuel reservoirs to explode. A second later, a sixth spore struck the aft section, nearly vaporizing it.

The remaining pieces began to slowly tumble down along a slow ballistic arc towards the yawning black hole, in the wake the debris of what had once been a planet.

OOC :

A small controlled one would be one that can cause enough damage to ships while not damaging any nearby solar bodies or planets .

OOC :

A small controlled one would be one that can cause enough damage to ships while not damaging any nearby solar bodies or planets .OOC: Reread what I wrote: that's not possible. Anything big enough to damage a ship with wreck the entire system.

*Sharp whistle* Wow Kafers, is that your job, or a hobby?

OOC: Is it too late to join in?

Mationbuds, when you posted:

In retaliation the fleet opened fire with 50 Singularity Shells which exploded right beside the chamellion ships into a huge black hole...

The ships were swinging around the right and left of the planet. That means they were in near orbit, as illustrated by his statement of the action against the other incoming force:

The Second’s sensors picked up the Vah vessel. It did not appear part of the prey’s force but their movement towards the planet seemed rather suspicious as the 200 bio ships began their ascent towards space.

This indicates the ships were hiding in or near the atmosphere of the planet. Again I refer to your post:

In retaliation the fleet opened fire with 50 Singularity Shells which exploded right beside the chamellion ships into a huge black hole ...

Since the ships were stated:

The chameleon disguised bio ships hidden behind the planet were given the order to begin their assault. The fleet came in from opposite sides of the planet meaning four hundred ships came from the right and left sides of the planet. They had quickly ditched the chameleon forms and began to unless their own volley’s of bio spores…

To place the black hole beside the ships, you would have to place them in middle of them so it would be beside each group. If you were aiming to the side, you would miss half your enemy’s ships. You stated you targeted THE ENEMY SHIPS meaning all of them. That means the HUGE BLACK HOLE would be where the planet was or in a close proximity similar to the bioships’ near orbits at that time seeing as that is the only place in the system where the Chameleon Ships were when you posted the attack.

You obviously became overzealous and targeted the planet accidentally in an effort to take out the ships. Also since the intended effect was a Huge Black Hole instead of "simple singularities" used to damage ships, you meant to take out the whole fleet in a massive area effect. You stated the target was the area besides the ships, not the ships themselves.

Now the big question, did the huge black hole that destroyed the system damage or even destroy your fleet of attacking ships?

OOC: Mationbuds, there's a very good reason why I use proximity and contact fuses in my singularity torpedoes to work their gravitational damage. They're so small that once they detonate, the singularities I use will disappear in seconds, especially after they've carved a hole in the ship and moved on. It's a question of balance. I don't want singularities to destroy the planet I'm trying to save, and yet I want them to destroy my enemies. The only way I can do that is to keep the event horizons small, no more than a dozen meters wide.

Incidently, I'm wondering what's the largest event horizon I can unleash without harming more than I need. Any larger than that and the singularities become self-sustaining.

OOC: I like this RP. I hope this'll fit in. If not I can delete it

IC

The planet was barren of all life and beauty. To many of the Terran explorers, it was known simply as Faustus. Massive sandstorms raged across the world, covering any and all signs of visitors and civilizations. Tempuratures were unbearable, ranging from −140 °C at night to 40°C at the daytime. Even the air was deadly, consisting of hydrogen cyanide and carbon dioxide, with verylittle nitrogen and oxygen being non-existent.

However, as dead and devoid as the planet was, there was a single being amidst the sirocco. The nameless one wore a tattered pancho over its heavily massacred body. The creature looked as if it had been beaten and sliced by blades, having clearly open wounds and even exposed bone. Yet it was moving gracefully through the storm like a dancer.

The creature stood atop a mountain and sat. It closed its eyes and began meditation amidst the harsh sandstorm. The sounds of the searing winds acted as the planets natural chants as the being's psyche wandered amongst the stars, searching for a distubance in the order. It began witnessing the massive attack over a planet, seemingly the prize for the galactic warriors. The enemy, nameless to this being but called the Kladth'u by its victims, were the garners of this unholy harvest of Havenia. This must be stopped, it surmised.

The astral being walked aboard a ship, race unknown to the elder. The man aboard was angry, obviously from the attack. General Maximus, the being had read from his mind. He was an important man on this ship and perhaps in this war. This would be dangerous to do to a being with underdeveloped psychic powers, but it had to make contact...

"General...I am...Fateseer...Be Strong...We will be watching...we will come..."

The link broke. A transwarp anomaly had disconnected the being from Maximus. It only hoped that the General had not died and had received the message. It stood upon Mount Xanaxos and waved its hands. The sirooco began to die out and the mountain began to shake.
"It is time my brothers...the Age of Reveries has ended...the time of the Awakening of Sepulchres has dawned..."

Beneath the planet was an elaborate labyrinth of catacombs, streching across the entire core of Faustus. Sepulchres began opening as grotesque cadavers crawled out of each tomb, each with the appearence of a flayed human. The macabre legion began surfacing Faustus, uncovering the remains of thier starships of time past. Obelisks began arising from the ground as the Cadavers began repairing the Obelisks to leave the Cryptworld known as Faustus.

"We must aid the living...we must stop the Kladth'u...at all costs... Fateseer's command resonated across the minds of the Cadavers as they commenced repairs. Fateseer stared towards the stars. "We will come Havenia...we shall come..."

The rise of the Xjhum'bi had begun.

Incidently, I'm wondering what's the largest event horizon I can unleash without harming more than I need. Any larger than that and the singularities become self-sustaining.OOC: Anything larger than the planet Mercury (0.05 terrestrial masses [Me]) will eventually evaporate, with the rate of evaporation accelerating as the black hole gets smaller. Such a black hole will have an event horizon of about 48cm, for an overall diameter of a touch under 1m; that means that your 12m black holes are self-sustaining, unless you have some other means (anti-gravity?) to tear them apart.

A black hole of one solar mass (1Ms) has a Swarzschild radius (event horizon) of 3km (3,000m); creating such a black hole requires 1.8E+47J (joules) of energy, the equivalent of 4.3E+30 100MT H-bombs, or over one billion times the energy of a single blast from the Death Star's “tributary superlaser” (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_star).¹

The Swarzschild radius varies directly with the mass of the black hole, which varies directly with its energy, so a black hole with an event horizon 6m in radius will have a mass of “only” 0.002Ms - or 2.1Mj (Jovian masses) - requiring 3.6E+44J to generate, the equivalent of “just” 8.6E+27 100MT H-bombs, or two million times the energy from a single burst from the Death Star (2MWank²).

A black hole with a Swarzschild radius of 32cm (the smallest stable black hole, as stated above) will mass about 0.05Me (as stated above) and require about 1.1E+40J worth of power to create; this is the equivalent of roughly 2.7E+23 100MT H-bombs and thus about 62,500 times the energy released by a single shot from the Death Star (62.5KWank).

A 1m black hole is still quite destructive; the chance of swallowing a typical FT starship in even a “huge” black hole (3,000km across), after all, is really very small; given that good old MT nukes can easily irradiate an area a few thousand kilometers across, typical fleet formations probably span several light seconds (a few millions of kilometers or more), so the chances of two ships being within 3,000km of each other are virtually nil; consequently it's the tidal distortion produced by the singularity (“spaghettification (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaghettification)”) that does the real damage - but not to ships

You see, tidal stress decreases with the cube of the distance from the singularity to the target as well as the arcsin (inverse sine) of the length of the vessel (i.e., smaller vessels experience less stress; this is why my 180m cruisers are tougher ships to kill that a lot of 2km “star destroyers”).

Combined with the greater speed, greater structural strength, and force shields that warships possess (as opposed to planets), this means that black holes pose a far greater danger to planets, moons, suns, etc., than to enemy craft. A 180m vessel at 10,000km from a black hole experiences a difference of less that 7½ seconds of arc in the gravitational gradient from stem to stern, barely enough to notice; for all intents and purposes, the black hole exerts no lateral stress at all on such a ship. To be threatened by tidal forces, a ship that size probably needs to be within about 2km of the black hole - any black hole - so size barely matters (except to increase the magnitude of the shearing force, but it's really the angle of the “bend” that matters most). In contrast, a 2km-long ship will be in danger within 25km or so of that same black hole. Ship size matters - but not in a good way.

And a planet?

If the black hole has a mass equal to that of the sun (the 6,000km model), it will bust up any planet within about a million kilometers; if it only has the mass of two Jupiters (the 12m variety), it will shred any planet within about 200,000km. The 1m (Mercury-sized) variety needs to be within a few thousand kilometers to destroy a planet (I'm admittedly too lazy to run the calculations (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roche_limit))

I know, you're thinking: “But it should be easier to tear up a spaceship than a planet!” Yet the opposite is true: we can stand here on the surface of the Earth and remain intact, but if the Moon gets within 20,000km or so of the Earth, it's gone.

Of course, even if the black hole is further than the Roche limit, it will still mess up a nearby planet badly, if only by perturbing its orbit. A likely result of such an encounter would be to either see the nearby planet hurtled off into the cosmic void or sent spiraling into the nearest sun. That's bad for the locals, either way.

But what you should be walking away from all this math with is this understanding: black holes make really bad weapons, at least if you're using them for their gravitational effects. I mean, can't you think of better things to do with millions or even billions of times the energy output of the Death Star?!?

(Oh, and BTW: If you are looking to swallow ships up in a black hole, why would you even bother? Black holes are black because light can't escape them. That means that most anything capable of flying faster than the speed of light ought to just be able to soar right out of one.)

¹I refer to the energy produced by a single blast from said “tributary superlaser” as 1 “wank” (Wank); thus it takes 1.8GWanks (“gigawanks”) of- power to produce a black hole of one solar mass (1Ms).

²See above.

(Oh, and BTW: If you are looking to swallow ships up in a black hole, why would you even bother? Black holes are black because light can't escape them. That means that most anything capable of flying faster than the speed of light ought to just be able to soar right out of one.)
OOC: Generally speaking, that is true. However, most FTL drives require a warmup time, which means that they'll likely be destroyed before they could FTL safely. Plus, there are FTL (like Star Wars) that actually cut off in order to not run into the mass shadow generated by a gravity well that projects itself into hyperspace and this shred itself apart from the structural destruction. I usually bank on these rules to kill my enemies with black holes.

Plus, there's the sheer stress of FTLing within gravity fields strong enough to bend physics like it was a Strongman bending steel bars. Most FTL-capable ships are designed to handle the 'normal' stress of jumping in and out of their respective FTL and battle as well. But I challenge you to find a ship capable of standing up to the stress and tidal forces of a black hole hitting it.

Anyway, I did mention proximity fuses on my singularity torpedoes, so even small ships are definitely in danger within the 'kill zone' if they detonate within a few klicks...

OOC: Well, my ships can't, mainly because of a self-imposed limit on the use of stutterwarp within any gravity well with a field strength of more than 0.1G (~1m/s² acceleration). But remember, this is with my PMT/NFT puppet; my FFT puppet doesn't have this limit, and its ships don't jump, either - they use true warp drives (like the Kafers), and not so-called “hyperspace” drives (IOW, we never leave “real” space, or - in technical terms - transtating micro-warp drives derived from the Alcubierre-Broeck metric (http://www.zamandayolculuk.com/cetinbal/RelativityEinsteinwormhole.htm). The cycle time for such drives is measured in femtoseconds (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1_E-15_s) (or less), and the typical pulse duration is enough to carry most vessels several hundred meters; that means that my FFT puppet's vessels will literally fly right through a black hole without stopping (although it might experience a course deflection in the process). The only way it could be destroyed in such a flight would be if it struck the singularity directly (as opposed to flying through the event horizon but missing the singularity).

As for tidal stresses, Broeck's modification to the Alcubierre metric eliminates any chance of this happening; the external diameter of the ship's warp bubble is just 6E-15m, or 0.006 picometers (http://arxiv.org/pdf/gr-qc/9905084); there is literally no stress differential much beyond a dozen picometers or so of the singularity itself¹.

G_d, I love (reasonably more) real(istic) science!

¹A picometer (pm) is about 1/100 of an angstrom (0.01Å), so the exterior diameter of the warp bubble is a little bigger than the Compton (orbital) radius of an electron.

Blasting out of a wormhole, a fleet of 37 warships, ranging from 600m long Interceptor Frigates to a massive, 3.27km long Devastator Dreadnaught, entered the Havenia system, and began probing inwards using mass detection sensors. Reading a large amount of irregular mass nearby the third planet, the Dreadnaught opened a channel, and the commander, Fleet Admiral Corelus Hawk, made a general announcement; 'This is Fleet Admiral Corelus Hawk of the Dentaran Imperial Space Armada, 3rd Fleet. We are responding to a distress call sent by the Havenia Council of Five. Can anyone hear us?' Finishing this announcement, Hawk proceeded to prepare the fleet for combat. 'Order all ships to polarise hull plating, load kinetic mass driver cannons, activate Point Defense Beam Laser Matrixes and load fusion torpedoes. Spin up all wormhole generators. All security teams, full combat uniform, including pressurized assault armour and force shields. And Tactical, load a Type One Subspace Warhead into the primary launch tube. Yes, I know, it's not meant to be used, but load it anyway.' Reactivating the comms, Hawk announced to the fleet, 'All ships, Set Condition One, prepare for battle! Wormhole entry in 1 minute 39 seconds!'

Two minutes later, the fleet exited their wormhole drive in battle formation, and Admiral Hawk quickly assessed the situation. He saw several wrecks, several ships that looked as though they were alive, and the Dreadnaught's sensors array intermittently detected several more ships. 'Chameleons...damnable things,' thought Hawk, before he began giving orders. 'All ships, bring active sensors arrays online. Remain in formation, and make sure your Point Defence Beam Laser Matrixes are patched into the Dreadnaught TacCom. Engage EMP shielding, and lock weapons with the nearest of those biological unknowns.' Finished giving his orders to the fleet, he turned to his bridge officers. 'Tactical, align all weapons onto that central ship, the big one. Lock all torpedoes AND the Type One Subspace Warhead onto the ship. I want to have a backup ready if that thing turns out to be more dangerous than I anticipated.' Then Hawk took another look at the sensors and nearly fell off his chair.

A colossal black hole had formed nearby the planet, sucking in the bioships while it stabilised itself. He took one look at the readings and knew that the system would be, in about three days, no longer there. The planets would have careened into the black hole and the sun would have been almost completely sucked into the black hole. He then noticed the massive ship was managing to escape from the PNR of the black hole. 'All ships, lock weapons on that ship and spin up your wormhole drives. Looks like we're too late. Havenia is doomed...'

At a distance of several million kilometres, the Dentaran fleet fired a salvo of kinetic slugs from mass driver cannons (effectively, a massive rail gun) at the bioship, each slug moving at a speed of about .42 light speed.

OOC: Damn, just finished reading through the thread and found out about the black hole situation.

OOC: Well, my ships can't, mainly because of a self-imposed limit on the use of stutterwarp within any gravity well with a field strength of more than 0.1G (~1m/s² acceleration). But remember, this is with my PMT/NFT puppet; my FFT puppet doesn't have this limit, and its ships don't jump, either - they use true warp drives (like the Kafers), and not so-called “hyperspace” drives (IOW, we never leave “real” space, or - in technical terms - transtating micro-warp drives derived from the Alcubierre-Broeck metric (http://www.zamandayolculuk.com/cetinbal/RelativityEinsteinwormhole.htm). The cycle time for such drives is measured in femtoseconds (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1_E-15_s) (or less), and the typical pulse duration is enough to carry most vessels several hundred meters; that means that my FFT puppet's vessels will literally fly right through a black hole without stopping (although it might experience a course deflection in the process). The only way it could be destroyed in such a flight would be if it struck the singularity directly (as opposed to flying through the event horizon but missing the singularity).

As for tidal stresses, Broeck's modification to the Alcubierre metric eliminates any chance of this happening; the external diameter of the ship's warp bubble is just 6E-15m, or 0.006 picometers (http://arxiv.org/pdf/gr-qc/9905084); there is literally no stress differential much beyond a dozen picometers or so of the singularity itself¹.

G_d, I love (reasonably more) real(istic) science!

¹A picometer (pm) is about 1/100 of an angstrom (0.01Å), so the exterior diameter of the warp bubble is a little bigger than the Compton (orbital) radius of an electron.
OOC: That's a really thin bubble! :D

Well, I guess throwing singularity torpedoes isn't going to hurt everyone. I expect and understand that. It's only sufficient that they hurt people like my own enemies. Now let us move this discussion to another thread. We're cloggin up the thread!

The first of many Obelisks rose from the ground, ready to be boarded by the Cadavers. Farseer looked upon it and nodded in content

"This will do for now," he spoke. "But we need more resources...to awaken more Cadavers..." he knew what this would mean. They would require live food. Live flesh. But for now, the crew of 200 Cadavers would suffice until proper sacrifices were made.

Farseer turned to the legion and said "The systems are operational now...let us ride into battle..."

The legion of Cadavers slithered into the ship. There were other creatures that followed them. A decent-sized group of more femine yet still grotesque bodies slunk through the mass of creatures. These were the Homunculi, macabre daughters of death, faster and more quick witted than the Cadavers. Behind them were the Aswang, horrific demonic with scythe-like claws for burrowing into the ground and through most armour...and flesh. Leading the pack of unholy creatures was Langsuir, a homunculus that had retain sentience after her tranformation into the Xjhum'bi. Other creatures came aboard, but most stayed behind to continue the uneathing of Obelisks

The Black Legion was set and Fateseer sat at the helm. "Come my brothers...it is time to meet our enemies face to face" he turned to Lanqsuir and said "We will require more energy to raise the others from their sleep..."

"I know..." she answered "Many of our bretheren havent eaten in a while and the life that had once populated this world is gone now...we must stop to feed...only then can we fight..."

"Agreed..." Farseer breathed heavy. he knew that they would have had to complete the Devouring before they could help at all. The Obelisk known as the X'atl launched towards a small colony on their way to the battlefield...

Mationbuds, when you posted:



The ships were swinging around the right and left of the planet. That means they were in near orbit, as illustrated by his statement of the action against the other incoming force:



This indicates the ships were hiding in or near the atmosphere of the planet. Again I refer to your post:



Since the ships were stated:



To place the black hole beside the ships, you would have to place them in middle of them so it would be beside each group. If you were aiming to the side, you would miss half your enemy’s ships. You stated you targeted THE ENEMY SHIPS meaning all of them. That means the HUGE BLACK HOLE would be where the planet was or in a close proximity similar to the bioships’ near orbits at that time seeing as that is the only place in the system where the Chameleon Ships were when you posted the attack.

You obviously became overzealous and targeted the planet accidentally in an effort to take out the ships. Also since the intended effect was a Huge Black Hole instead of "simple singularities" used to damage ships, you meant to take out the whole fleet in a massive area effect. You stated the target was the area besides the ships, not the ships themselves.

Now the big question, did the huge black hole that destroyed the system damage or even destroy your fleet of attacking ships?


IC :

The Singularitty Shells I used are designed to last for 10 to 20 seconds . Long enough to cause major damage to surrounding ships . But it shouldnt be powerful enough to affect the system .

IC :

The Singularitty Shells I used are designed to last for 10 to 20 seconds . Long enough to cause major damage to surrounding ships . But it shouldnt be powerful enough to affect the system .<Beats ... head ... against ... wall>

OOC: And what happens to all that matter when those 10 or 20 seconds are up?

How stupid would all of you think it would be if I said: “I fire a bunch of missiles and they all come together and create a star next to my enemy's fleet ... but the charges are fused so that, after 10 or 20 seconds, the star goes away.”

Duh.

The only way the black hole can “disappear” is if it explodes - IOW, if it gets transformed into (explosive) energy, like a matter-antimatter bomb of identical mass. I mean, this is high-school physics: “mass-energy can neither be created nor destroyed.” Which, if you go back to my numbers, means that you have a blast that's equal to: 4,300,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 100MT H-bombs for a 6km singularity.


8,600,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 100MT H-bombs for a 12m singularity.


270,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 100MT H-bombs for a 96cm (1m) singularityAny way you cut it, we're talking supernova.

You do know what a supernova is, right?

Never mind, MB. You're hopeless.

<Beats ... head ... against ... wall>

OOC: And what happens to all that matter when those 10 or 20 seconds are up?

How stupid would all of you think it would be if I said: “I fire a bunch of missiles and they all come together and create a star next to my enemy's fleet ... but the charges are fused so that, after 10 or 20 seconds, the star goes away.”

Duh.

The only way the black hole can “disappear” is if it explodes - IOW, if it gets transformed into (explosive) energy, like a matter-antimatter bomb of identical mass. I mean, this is high-school physics: “mass-energy can neither be created nor destroyed.” Which, if you go back to my numbers, means that you have a blast that's equal to: 4,300,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 100MT H-bombs for a 6km singularity.


8,600,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 100MT H-bombs for a 12m singularity.


270,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 100MT H-bombs for a 96cm (1m) singularityAny way you cut it, we're talking supernova.

You do know what a supernova is, right?

Never mind, MB. You're hopeless.


For god sake , I did NOT say it was a supernova . It is a black hole you goon . And for gosh sake , dont try to interrupt a RP with your OOC problems , take it somewhere else .

If you wish to argue everything , then tell me how you can warp from here to there using Real Life physics . How are you gonna split dimensions for FTL travel huh ? Tell me how ya going to do that .

FT is fantasy rp ok , so give and take . Nothing can be correct or false . If you still wish to bicker and argue , then I strongly suggest you leave .

*steps back to the corner and hides*

Err...I guess ill keep on...

IC

The "X'atl" had left the colony, raiding for merely its animal life. Fateseer did not want to see sentient blood spilled in the name of the Faustus Legion. The Cadavers brought with them carcasses to be infected so that more can be assembled while others just brought food for the rest of the crew. The carcasses were taken to the Crematorius Tomb for processing and assembly.

"Lanqsuir, what is the status of the weapon systems on the X'atl?" Fateseer asked.

"Currently we only have the main Projectile Flux Drivers operational," Lanqsuir replied. "We are trying to get the Gauss Accelerator Batteries operational, but it will take some time."

"I see" Fateseer pondered "That will do for now. What about the assembly of the Troupe."

"We are almost finished in the Crematorius Tombs. The Troupe should be assembled shortly."

"Good, we'll have a proper boarding party once operational," Fateseer activated the Folding Systems. "We are now preparing to warp near the planet. Once the Batteries are operational we can commence bombardment."

The "X'atl" warped through space..

For god sake , I did NOT say it was a supernova . It is a black hole you goon .



i think he ment think he ment a explosion equivalent to a supernova. but wtv i am done.

For god sake , I did NOT say it was a supernova . It is a black hole you goon . And for gosh sake , dont try to interrupt a RP with your OOC problems , take it somewhere else .

If you wish to argue everything , then tell me how you can warp from here to there using Real Life physics . How are you gonna split dimensions for FTL travel huh ? Tell me how ya going to do that .

FT is fantasy rp ok , so give and take . Nothing can be correct or false . If you still wish to bicker and argue , then I strongly suggest you leave .

OOC: "I didn't say it" doesn't make it not true. When you're dealing with black holes, you're also dealing with real physics. "This is a fantasy rp so I can do anything I want" is godmoding.
BTW, if you want to know how warp drive works, read this (http://www.popsci.com/popsci/aviationspace/d1e527098dcda010vgnvcm1000004eecbccdrcrd.html).
Alastair Reynolds suggested one possible way of traveling faster than the speed of light in the Revelation Space series; it involved using inertial dampeners to cancel out inertia as we know it and create a field of "imaginary" (in the square root of -1 sense) inertia instead, thus transmuting matter from the tardy- (matter as we know it) to the tachyonic state. It's all a little confusing, really, but you'd understand somewhat if you read the book.

Anyway, a little more on-topic: I will be RP'ing with one of my puppets, Veridi.

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The X'atl stopped nearby the planet, but far enough from the battlefield as to not be seen. Fateseer walked towards the Crematorius Tomb to view the newly assembled warriors.

"We have completed the assembly Fateseer..." Lanqsuir stated. "The warriors of the Troup are now standby, as well as my women. We can all go down to the planet on your word."

Fateseer looked upon their creations. Some Homunculi were made from the leftover parts that were salvaged from the ship. They followed Lanqsuir towards the Pylon Chamber to prepare for landing on the planet. Fateseer turned to see the true apex of Xjhum'bi creation: The Troupe

The Troupe consisted of three types of Xjhum'bi. First were the Marieonettes. They was lithe and fragile with a pale, dead look to their face. Their flesh was rotting, like the other Cadavers and Homunculi. Upon their backs were crosses with blasters on each arm of the cross. On each arm was a curved scimitar-like blade. Behind them were the Harlequinnes, fast and nimble femme-fatales with catclaws on their hands. Finally was the behemoth Calicos, each a deformed patchwork of different corpses stiched together like a quilt and needles covering the entire body. These were the brutes, with mild intelligence but a vicious and sadistic mindset, sometimes torturing their prey before finally feeding them to the voracious Aswang as their version of a "mercy" killing.

Farseer looked upon the unholy carnival of monsters and said to them "Come towards the Pylon Chamber...we must be ready to board the planet..." he turned to Lanqsuir and asked "How is the unearthing of the Mausoleum?"

"It is taking much longer than anticipated," Lanqsuir responded. "However, I have receive word that other Cryptworlds are awakening. It will take some time for them to fully awaken though."

"Good," Fateseer looked at the fleet ahead. "We have neither manpower nor firepower to help our allies navywise. However...we can start taking back the planet. Tell the boarding parties to launch the Pylons and prepare for teleporting our soldiers. Get the Aswangs ready as well for Orbital Entombment."

"Yes Farseer."

The X'atl began loading the Pylons, transwarp beacons creating a network of Plane Shift Corridors that guide soldiers from the ship to the planet. They would launch at the mark of Farseer.

OOC: Is anyone still doing this RP. Ill come back a bit later to replace this OOC post with an actual story.

OOC I guess this thread is dead. I was kinda getting into this. O well.

OOC: Actually, MB, Warp Drive has been proven to be possible (see Pop. Science), but improbable for humans to ever figure out how to do it. The fact it's improbable means, however, that there is the slightest chance that it is possible.

*slams head on keyboard*

I quit. I think I have heard more than enough of warp drive capabilities and black holes.

*slams head on keyboard*

I quit. I think I have heard more than enough of warp drive capabilities and black holes.

OOC: Not directed at you, but true, just refuting MB's point.

1) I believe that the "Warp Drive" ability is more akin to the scientifically proven 'Folding Space.'

2) This thread is being killed by people who argue over a single point WAY too much, and who bring real life science & physics into fiction. Is fiction not a way for fantastic things to occur? Prime examples are Star Wars, Star Trek, Battlestar Galactica. Lots of that is impossible in real life. Doesn't mean we can't enjoy it.

OOC: Not directed at you, but true, just refuting MB's point.

No worries. I knew it wasn't intended. You guys wanna continue this RP? I still have a helluvalot of ideas just waiting.

This thread died once a discussion pertaining to technology developed in response to what is the status quo for the behavior for some, such a shame that is really.

1) I believe that the "Warp Drive" ability is more akin to the scientifically proven 'Folding Space.'

2) This thread is being killed by people who argue over a single point WAY too much, and who bring real life science & physics into fiction. Is fiction not a way for fantastic things to occur? Prime examples are Star Wars, Star Trek, Battlestar Galactica. Lots of that is impossible in real life. Doesn't mean we can't enjoy it.

OOC: 1) Dead on the money.
2) Fiction is true, but there must be some kind of a limit so it's not "I send supermassive black hole at j00" back and forth.

ok so you guys wanna continue where we left off?

I think we're forgetting the most important participant; Deatharon.
I'll TG him and ask him to "restart" the thread by "reposting" it, so we can start over.

agreed. if you guys get the new thread, could you send me it? It like to join in again.

agreed. if you guys get the new thread, could you send me it? It like to join in again.

Sure... but Deatharon has been a little inactive lately so it might take a while...
I don't like "stealing" threads, but I guess I could copy his first post to a new thread... if he doesn't show up...

I have thus decreed: This thread is abandoned because of tech disputes. I have made a new thread to replace this one. It is the same storyline but it is invite. If you would like to Join send me a TG or post your willingness to join on the OOC thread.

Links:


Main Thread: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=506969
OOC Thread: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=506972

Yeah! ...the next person who says anything remotely connected to tech issues will be terminated :D