NationStates Jolt Archive

Well, this is fairly simple. Essentially, in my MT form, I RP as the Islandic League (Islandic as in 'lots of islands'), which is an ultra-free paradise, where free speech is prized above all else, and democracy is near-obsessive (Computers in every home, and the police force is devoted to guarding the information superhighways than the *actual* highways.)

Now, this is all well and good, but it really doesn't give me any drive to RP in MT. The simple matter of the fact is that peace doesn't give me anything fun to write.

So here's the deal. I want to be invaded. The League has under five hundred thousand people (including logistical support, who make up the vast majority of my military, leaving me with probably.. under ten thousand trained combat troops) in the military, and five billion people total. Yeah. That's 0.01% of my population in the military.

They're well-trained, although untried in combat. Our airforce consists of around a hundred shiny fighter jets (GOOD jets, but, again, very few in number), and our navy.. we have no battleships to speak of. We have six destroyers, four subs, and a larger number of Coastguard-style cutters, used to police the waters around the islands.

All in all, our military might as well be nonexistant. They DO have good weaponry, but they number so few as to be unsignificant.

Pacifism is considered a way of life by the vast majority of the populace - it works fairly well, as physical crime is nonexistent. (Cybercrime, on the other hand, is fairly prevalent).


That's really all you need to know to see that the League is ripe for invasion. Untouched by the outside world, and with few, if any allies, it has no real means of defending itself against a lightning strike, or even a relatively slow strike.


However, I don't want just any Tom, Dick, or Harry invading me. The point here is that, through this invasion, I want to get more involved with MT RPs. Therefore, there's a wee list of criteria I want to see before I get invaded.

Firstly, my invader has to be well-written. Characters, cruelty, plot development.. I don't just want "The third Division moved towards the League city.". That's not what I want to go into MT for. I want the joy of characters, developing intricate people, and fun besides.

Secondly, the invader needs to be able to support the League. There's over six billion people within the League, and, despite their pacifism, someone who's a tenth my size simply won't be able to support the League with resources. If you invade them, and blockade the League, and stop food supplies getting in, you're going to have a lot of starving people. Unless you have the capacity to CONQUER AND HOLD the League, not merely defeat it in battle, I don't want you invading me.

Thirdly, I'm willing to become part of a larger empire. Big empires are always fun, and being a conquered state to such an empire can always lead to good RPs. However, whoever invades me needs to be prepared for rebellion RPs, protests, and the like, and must be willing to RP those. If you just want to invade me for the hell of it, and then state that I'm utterly conquered, and just take resources from me, and don't want to engage in RP, you don't get a cigar. Or an invasion.

And lastly, whoever invades me needs to be in it for the long haul. If you're not willing to RP with me after the invasion, change events in your nation to reflect the conquest, etcetera... Don't be there.

So, yeah. It's a fairly stringent set of conditions, but they are my conditions. If you want to invade a militarily weak country, pick up a new state, RP some fun rebellion and dissent RPs afterwards, come on in!

EDIT: Keep in mind that PMT, so long as it's not *super* PMT (As in, colonies on Mars, and the like..) is welcome.

good luck finding some one HT, If you want I can show up during one of your rebellions and help take the country back.

hmmm...well I could take a crack at it, if you want HT.

Ooooh! Pick me, pick me!!! I think I'm a fairly decent RP-er, at least I think so, and here's a link to a thread about RP-ed "life in the Undershi Empire.":

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=497485

Plus, I have almost one and a half billion people, and an excelent economy... and, if you want cruelty, I can give you cruelty. For example, see how I delt with an overly rebelious city? Well, anyways, I hope you accept me as your invader!
(Odd, isn't it, to be applying to be allowed to invade someone?)

Just a Q. Do you have the navy sufficient to start shipping people across, and invading well? Also, do you have enough people to keep the peace? 1.5 billion IS fairly large, but by the looks of you, you're probably running more than one war at a time..

That being said, if that's all fine, I'd be more than willing to go ahead with it.

Well, I can send a half a million men in the first wave, with fourteen carriers and a ton of other ships for support, since my Fleet of The Pacifics is currently unengaged... plus I could send up to 50,000 para-troopers... and I could keep more guys coming in for the long run. Well? What do you say?

Well, unless your military launches a coup of sorts, or some sort of reigme change occurs prompting the Allied Union to intervene, I'd probably ICly not give you a second look.

Mm. Sounds like fun. Just keep in mind that the League is *really* big. Lemme just post this map I whipped up, and I'll show you.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a192/CacoRPG/LeagueMap.jpg

Essentially, there are four major areas in the League, and only one of them has any kind of defense. There's the Southern Continent, which holds the notable honour of being a barren hellhole, albeit a barren hellhole which abounds with oil, iron, uranium.. and many other valuable materials. The only major city in the Southern Continent is huge, and contains around 500 million people, and 10% of the population total. It's the largest city in the League, and for good reason - almost all imports/exports from Southern are processed there. It has a MASSIVE amount of processing infrastructure, and also constructs the majority of tanks/like in the League.

Two of the League's military bases are stationed near Southern City, and around eight thousand combat troops are stationed there at all times, mainly to deter smugglers and pirates. Defensive mortars and the like are also stationed here.

There's the League Proper, which is the set of northern isles, which contain 50% of the population. They're fairly large, however, they're mainly cities. The kelp farms in the Northern League supply the majority of it with food, although there are some farms. Meat and grain are always delicacies. The capital city is guarded by two military bases, manned by auxiliaries. Around seventy thousand men in total rotate here, although they're merely reserves.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a192/CacoRPG/LeagueGuide.jpg

There's the Southern Isles, which are in the southwest, and are probably a half-decent point to stage an invasion from. They're unprotected, and they contain about 10% of the population (A nice even 600 million)

Then there's the Great Oil Cluster, a set of oil rigs which provide some six billion people with their oil (for the most part, in any case. They're REALLY big, to say the least)

Lastly, there's the New Isles, which contain the last 30% of the population, and a large amount of farms. The oil they contain is also useful, and they're fairly big, being bountiful in terms of food, and wood.

So, yeah. That's the guide to the League. Just keep in mind half a million men might have trouble securing one area at first - a foothold might be all they can grab, simply because you need manpower to overwhelm the sheer amount of civilians I have into obedience.

Well, unless your military launches a coup of sorts, or some sort of reigme change occurs prompting the Allied Union to intervene, I'd probably ICly not give you a second look.

....kay. Posting to let me know that you don't want to invade isn't what I'm asking for. Trust me on that. If everyone who wouldn't give it a second look decides not to post, I'll have a few thousand posts of no relevance to me whatsoever.

Okay, I'm seeing how this could work out... I think I've got a fairly decent invasion plan right now... I'm ready to begin when you are (although I'll be off to bed soon, to be honest...)

If you don't mind, I'd like to have the Blubs help you defend. Heh. They're smaller and less well-equipped than your own guys, so it wouldn't make much of a difference. I'd just like for the Blubs to make a friend, y'dig? I haven't been able to do much MT-wise with them aside from my intro.

Hey, if you want to send a few Blubs along, that's cool. So long as it's not a big force, (maybe a few hundred in some important areas), I'm sure it'd only add to the RP.

Huzzah! :) Thanks.

OOC: I would like to somehow get my Stormtroopers involved, seeing as they haven't marched on foreign soil for ages, ICly. If there's some way I could be implemented, I am more than willing and I think you will find that I am a satisfactory roleplayer...

....kay. Posting to let me know that you don't want to invade isn't what I'm asking for. Trust me on that. If everyone who wouldn't give it a second look decides not to post, I'll have a few thousand posts of no relevance to me whatsoever.

No, no, you get me all wrong.

I'd be able to invade if perhaps a reigme change or the like were to be the catalyst.

Okay, I'm ready to start the RP when you are, like I said before. You want me to start a new thread for the IC stuff of the invasion?

However, I don't want just any Tom, Dick, or Harry invading me. The point here is that, through this invasion, I want to get more involved with MT RPs. Therefore, there's a wee list of criteria I want to see before I get invaded.

Firstly, my invader has to be well-written. Characters, cruelty, plot development.. I don't just want "The third Division moved towards the League city.". That's not what I want to go into MT for. I want the joy of characters, developing intricate people, and fun besides.

Secondly, the invader needs to be able to support the League. There's over six billion people within the League, and, despite their pacifism, someone who's a tenth my size simply won't be able to support the League with resources. If you invade them, and blockade the League, and stop food supplies getting in, you're going to have a lot of starving people. Unless you have the capacity to CONQUER AND HOLD the League, not merely defeat it in battle, I don't want you invading me.

Thirdly, I'm willing to become part of a larger empire. Big empires are always fun, and being a conquered state to such an empire can always lead to good RPs. However, whoever invades me needs to be prepared for rebellion RPs, protests, and the like, and must be willing to RP those. If you just want to invade me for the hell of it, and then state that I'm utterly conquered, and just take resources from me, and don't want to engage in RP, you don't get a cigar. Or an invasion.

And lastly, whoever invades me needs to be in it for the long haul. If you're not willing to RP with me after the invasion, change events in your nation to reflect the conquest, etcetera... Don't be there.

I can fill all those criteria: I'm fairly good at writing. The Infinite Empire is large enough to support your nation after its defeated (and you'd bcome part of a larger empire including another 4 nations). I'd be more than happy to do other RP's after this one too.

I'd need a reason to invade you though, but that should be fairly simple to come up with: the most obvious being a hostile action or an insult to the Empire or its government (Yallakians don't take kindly to that at all).

..and that's a problem. The League is really, really super passive. The only thing we complain about is nations with nukes, and occasionally send letters telling human-rights violaters just how angry we really are with them.

And that last one is considered to be a last resort.


On the other hand... Let me just cook up an idea. Let's say, Undershi invades. Now, seeing as he has half a million men, he won't be able to hold all *that* much land for the time being.

You send a letter saying.. uhhh.. We could become a province of the Infinite Empire, in return for protection. Being shocked by the invasion, and outraged besides, we send a rather scathing and insulting letter back.

Commence insult. Sound good?

If Y'all don't mind, Mondoth is about to go through some interesting times, but too fill the time until then, I'd like to have a Naval Reaction Task Force jump in to defend the League for a week or two (RL) before things in Mondoth go to hell in a hand basket and the fleet gets recalled.
This should also open up Mondoth as a supplier for the various insurgenices the League may experience (Mondoth has a very secret history of doing such things)

Hmmm.. aid is interesting, but.. losing is the fun bit. A few naval ships to pick at the enemy could be good, but a major force I'd really rather not see.

Why did I have to see this so late? I've always wanted a vassal state... Of course, I'm mildly hard-pressed to come up with a reason for invading you. The Quetzals are rather easy-going, and Otagian foreign policy is usually pretty isolationistic. Hell, I'm starting to get as bad as Kanuckistan in that department. Only people who ever do anything are mercs...

Anyway, keep me in mind if you ever need me or can think of a use for a good-natured corporation/nation.

Okay, I'm ready to start the RP when you are, like I said before. You want me to start a new thread for the IC stuff of the invasion?

Just a Q, but, from my map, have you decided which area you wanted to invade? (The letters are tiny, I know)

'cause I'd prefer to start the thread, so I could write the setting beforehand.


Also, there appears to be a fair bit of interest. If you wanted to, we could have a mass of people invading, their invasions sparked by the fact that the League is being invaded in any case, and have it split up, and have all sorts of nifty territorial wars from time to time..

Sounds like a plan. That would actually be staying quite IC for Yallak: if they see a nation who could be of value to the Empire and an opportunity to get them to join then they will try. Then if you were to send an insulting response, peaceful communications would rapidly degrade without an apology.

Well, from what I've seen, I think I'm planning on the following:

First thing I'd do would be to send in massive aerial forces to engage your fighters and target troop movements. (But not bombing the cities - I'd want to capture them intact.)
Then, once your airforce has been knocked out of the sky, then I'd begin the full scale invasion by dropping some of my airborn divisions on that largest island in the northern league, the rest onto the Southern Continent.
By that time, the naval forces would have arrived, and they'd seize the oil dericks. Well, once those oil dericks had been seized, they'd then deploy about 500,000 men onto the Southern Continent, and another 80,000 onto the Southern Islands.
I'm just wondering - how large a crew does each of your oil dericks have? I need to know so I can figure out how many marines to deploy.
Once your main city has fallen, those 500,000 men I'd deployed there will be basically tied up in garrission duties, holding down the occupied.
That's why I'd bring in another 300,000 men as soon as possible - these guys would have the job of reinforcing the airborn troops up in the Northern League, and securing it.
The New Islands would be an afterthought - towards the begining of the invasion I'd send a carrier group or two to go and sit on them to make sure we don't have too much of a problem from them - but, they'd be the last to be occupied. I'd do this via the deployment of, oh... 120,000, which would bring my total numbers to one million men depoyed, plus my naval assets.

Oh yeah - when can we start?

Well, from what I've seen, I think I'm planning on the following:

First thing I'd do would be to send in massive aerial forces to engage your fighters and target troop movements. (But not bombing the cities - I'd want to capture them intact.)

...Right. The problem is we have a rather small airforce. Finding it would be harder than defeating it. And our few fortifications are rather well done - if underdone in terms of size.

Then, once your airforce has been knocked out of the sky, then I'd begin the full scale invasion by dropping some of my airborn divisions on that largest island in the northern league, the rest onto the Southern Continent.

At this point in time, assume I don't have an operative airforce or navy. Trying to get a group of any reasonable size to scramble in under a week would be difficult in normal conditions. I have ships, and planes, but they're so vastly outnumbered that they might as well be considered guerilla forces right off the bat.

By that time, the naval forces would have arrived, and they'd seize the oil dericks. Well, once those oil dericks had been seized, they'd then deploy about 500,000 men onto the Southern Continent, and another 80,000 onto the Southern Islands.
I'm just wondering - how large a crew does each of your oil dericks have? I need to know so I can figure out how many marines to deploy.

Actually.. I'm not really all that sure. It ranges from really, really low numbers (in the newer, more automated oil derricks), and higher in some of the older ones. The massive, massive oil patch the majority are situated in are almost completely automated - you'd be looking at ten, twenty men on board at best, assuming you were going for those.

Once your main city has fallen, those 500,000 men I'd deployed there will be basically tied up in garrission duties, holding down the occupied.
That's why I'd bring in another 300,000 men as soon as possible - these guys would have the job of reinforcing the airborn troops up in the Northern League, and securing it.

Fair enough. Keep in mind, although we're a bunch of islands, there's a LOT of land to take.

The New Islands would be an afterthought - towards the begining of the invasion I'd send a carrier group or two to go and sit on them to make sure we don't have too much of a problem from them - but, they'd be the last to be occupied. I'd do this via the deployment of, oh... 120,000, which would bring my total numbers to one million men depoyed, plus my naval assets.

Oh yeah - when can we start?

Well, let's just start with the invasion of the Northern League (Or the League Proper, as it's known), shall we? As soon as that happens, we can get Yallak and Tinsuvilia involved, and a few others.

..And I'll be posting the thread presently.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11845178#post11845178

It's a wee bit short, but I seem to have some sort of cold which comes prepackaged with an ear infection (Ah, if only the vendors of real life were as generous as those who dole our disease.), but I feel it kicks it off with a bit of life, no?

I wish I had gotten here earlier...

I have some characters I didn't get to develop in my last RP (it died), I have a very large country and experienced military, and I am a blatant imperialist.

I also want to get my name out into the MT vocabulary...

I've just posted on that thread - hope you enjoy my air war! Soon the real invasion will begin!!! (Cue maniacal laughter...)

OOC: Uh, Hyperspatial Travel, where are you?

Oops, my bad. I have a tendency to miss things on occasion ^_^. I just got my driver's license this week, so.. yeah, I've been out practicising the road rules. People on bikes are worth slightly more than those on foot, right?


I'll get right on it.

Oops, my bad. I have a tendency to miss things on occasion ^_^. I just got my driver's license this week, so.. yeah, I've been out practicising the road rules. People on bikes are worth slightly more than those on foot, right?

Only if the people on foot aren't walking side by side because if you can knock them all down thats worth way more than a bike rider!

That's good to know. I'll leave it up to interpretation which post I was refering to...

It sounds like it might develope into a free for all.

I'm wondering if my MT/Early PMT ICCD can have some role. It doesn't make much sense that we would invade a pacifist state to "conquer it" but we might try to "protect it" thus turn it into some type of protectorate, but only if invited to do so, or in the case of it being invaded, if gross violations against the people occured, like torture unreasoned murder, genocide etc..


ICCD has a relatively large military (but a lot of it is provincial gaurd and local security deployments etc..)

The navy could take a role though I might be able to spare up to around 7 million in combat troops, equipment operators and logistics supports. ICCD uses "UAV's UMV's as well. In many respects like future combat systems. But it is a mix of self developed technologies, russian, british, us etc..

my pop is smaller but much more militarized. (even though we have excelent civil rights and very good political rights in NS un stats, but that is mostly due to letting people do whatever they'd like, (and military service is compulsary etc..) so it is a very frank empire, but not pacifist per say, just reactionary.

Just keep in mind I want to keep the amount of actual RPers fairly low - I'm going to be in all but hibernation throughout November, and the more people I have to reply to, the less time I have to spend on each one. As it stands, I'd prefer to keep it with just the people who are already involved (or will be, like Yallak, the Blubs, and *possibly* Tinsuvilia), for now.

Although, afterwards, there'll certainly be plenty of oppurtunity.

Is there any particular point in time you want me to get involved or can i just jump in whenever I feel like it (ie: like now)?

I'd prefer for all of Undershi's first wave of troops to be in place before you send out a message - after all, they're hardly likely to be broadcasting their invasion all over the world, no?

True, just after your last post i had though of a good way to get in: The Empire is often looking out for other nations to join the empire and one like yours with alot of potential for untapped resources (determined by how little mining operations your running) we could have been doing satellite scans while the invasion began.

I can wait though. Thats no problem.

Hyperspace Travel, are you still there? You haven't posted on the Invasion thread in a long time, and I'm wondering how the fighting in the city is going, and whether my armoured divisions are pushing out to attack the Blubs and relieve my Airborn divisions. Could you post about that sometime soon?

Yeah, this is what I hate about NS the most. People start RPs then just ignore them.

I know what you mean. It can get quite annoying. Do you want to start our own RP? How about our troops shooting at each other causes a diplomatic incident that leads to a minor war between our two nations? (I'm thinking of a general state of hostility - we send in a few spies and sabateurs, you send in a few spies and sabateurs, we both send in a few commando teams to assassinate politicians or abduct/rescue scientists... you know what I mean.)
Well?

I know what you mean. It can get quite annoying. Do you want to start our own RP? How about our troops shooting at each other causes a diplomatic incident that leads to a minor war between our two nations? (I'm thinking of a general state of hostility - we send in a few spies and sabateurs, you send in a few spies and sabateurs, we both send in a few commando teams to assassinate politicians or abduct/rescue scientists... you know what I mean.)
Well?

I dunno. The Blubs aren't very proficient in cold-war type stuff. They're brave, but under-equipped.

Alright - if you don't want to... but seriously, I'm sure they could find some way to hurt the Undershi Empire - who knows? I mean, a few spies would be an easy way to get some RPing in... well?

Well, Yallak, if you're still interested, about now would be great. Undershi's about to execute a capture of the majority of Southern City, and the Northern League isn't holding out too well, either.

http://i15.tinypic.com/2ez1mbm.jpg

There's a map of Southern. The green lines are the city precincts - each area of division. Note that there's a small set of mountains running through the centre of Southern. That'll probably be a major area of resistance. The black double-lines are Undershi areas that have been conquered so far. (Yes, it's fairly small, but Southern is incredibly huge. That alone was enough to force a surrender.)

Ok, got an exam tomorrow and studying for that now but i will try and get a post up after sometime.

I know how you feel. Wait until you feel it's needed. Undershi is really only consilidating his rule, for the most part. After all, he's taken a bite of about a billion people. And that can take quite some time to digest..

Indeed - for now, you can consider the state of affairs to be "my Janissaries are looting and behaving badly while the higherups plan to consolidate their control."

OOC: It'd probably be better not to, unless Yallak really brings in the big guns. After all, you could probably get quite a few units of League auxiliaries, and the factories in both the Southern and Northern League you possess can churn out a lot of military gear in short order. If you think you need an ally - can you keep it to one ally, at most?

At the moment I'm only using 3 battlegroups (which is about 130 combat ships) and 1 Legion (80,000 infantry + attached armour and vehicles). The ground forces will increase dramatically when the taking over of stuff starts but the fleet will probably only get another battlegroup extra during the RP unless more are really needed.

Also, I'll not be able to post after this until at least monday night (but probably not be until tuesday or wednesday) - but after that i'll have finished my exams and be on 3 months of holidays!!

Okay... I might take HT up on his offer and call up an ally... but only perhaps, and only later. Also, one week from now is the start of two weeks which will be very bad for me - I'll only be able to post very rarely during that time. I hope that's OK with you... but, after that I'll have two weeks of vacation, during which I'll post much more often.

OOC: I'd invade you, if i could have patrols marching around making people's lives miserable.

Just some questions:

Shore

Incoming missiles burst in the air as CIWS fire struck home, other missiles got through, and sent up fountains of dirt, sometimes with bits of guns and the body parts of the crews thrown in.

<snip>

He frowned for a second as he considered the Jannissary soldiers dug in in front of his units position, but then he smilled. As the Python boomed again and again, supported by Rattlesnake 88mm rapid fire cannons on either side, he shouted to the Jannissaries dug in in front of his gun:
"Just try to run, you cowardly norms, and I'll give you a taste of canister shot!"

What is this in regards to? The missiles I launched were against the New Islands which as far as the map says is still controlled by the League.

And,

In the Air

Flight Leader Ulrich Smithson grinned as he saw the enemy fighter screen up ahead. They had no idea what they were about to face.
The Lightning interceptors tasked to guard the incoming wave of Thunderer fighter-bombers rose to meet the enemy from above... while the Thunderers made a quick dive towards the water, and deployed their cargo. Torpedoes. Ten thousand torpedoes, now heading straight for the enemy fleet. He went on the radio, and spoke to his squadron:
"Excelent work. Now, let's teach those norms why the Thunderer is refered to as a fighter-bomber..." as he spoke, the signal came, and those same flights of Thunderers that had so recently seemingly proven their lack of Air-to-Air orientation by launching torpedoes now pointed at the underside of the enemy formation, and in unison with the Lightnings above their position, launched a saturation barrage of Air-to-Air missiles. It was good to be clever...
Each Thunderer had been kitted out with a mixed load - half torpedoes, half Air-to-Air missiles. They would make the enemy pay, for each mile they advanced...

How many planes have you launched that they can carry ten thousand torpedoes and still have have an equal weight loadout of air-to-air missiles?

Don't take this the wrong way because its not meant to be an insult or anything but can you put abit more detail into posts like this.

Well, here's what the attack groups consisted of:
- 1,000 carrier-based Thunderer fighter-bombers (2 torpedoes each, plus Air-to-Air missiles)
- 1,500 land-based Thunderer fighter-bombers (again, 2 torpedoes each, plus Air-to-Air missiles).
That's 5,000 torpedoes from that, plus:
- 500 land-based Golden Eagle general-purpose Heavy Bombers (10 torpedoes each, plus one pair of Air-to-Air missiles)

And, in terms of fighter escorts:

- 2,000 Lightning interceptors, launched from carriers and land bases.

I hope this clarifies matters.

Yallak here, sorry about my absence. If you guys are still wanting to do this I will be able to get going again once my nation has been restored.

Ah, yeah. Well, y'know. I'm willing to get back into it - Christmas holidays tend to really be bad for activity, and I've only been on on the rare occasion. I'm back, though. 'back' being a relative term, of course. But back enough to get back into this, at the very least.

You're back? Alright. The Undershi exploitation of your helpless citizens will continue, then...

In other news, never-ever-ever trust the User CP's updates on things. It lies to you. Yes, the evil thing lies!

*hisses, and retreats into a dark cave*

Yeah, I only just found this post. Probably some fault of my own, though. Now, what are we doing, then...?

Just incase no one noticed, I've officially pulled out of this due to HT's COMPLETE lack of any ability to keep current on it or make reasonably expedient posts.

Well, fair enough. Being reasonably expedient has never been my forte, after all. Wearing funny hats has.

Ok, well I've got my nation back and un-forum banned, but due to work I won't be able to get a post up until friday (or mabye thursday night depending on when I finish that day).

Well, I haven't posted for a while, but the reason was simply that I lost phone and internet service for a while due to a snow/ice storm. Sorry. Now, everyone ready to get back to the conquest of the league? Hee-hee hee...

I'm back, and ready to start a'thwackin' things. Although my next little vacation may cut into that a bit, but I'll have the internet there, so it should be fine.

Okay, so are you going to post? Once you do, I'll start posting again myself.

A.. posted! Let the games begin! Or the slaughter of hapless Janissaries, at least..

A.. posted! Let the games begin! Or the slaughter of hapless Janissaries, at least..

Oh? You find the two mutually exclusive? :D

Anyways, I'll go and post myself now.

Ok, finally, I got a post up. I'll have another one up for HT soon in response to the message you sent the Empire.

Well, I've posted again now... waiting for Yallak to post.

I will write a reply later tonight or tomorrow sometime... just got home from my new place of work ( 1 1/2 hours travel and waiting for bus time - fun fun fun), so not really in the creative mood right now.