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British homosexuals face slavery after anti-homosexuality laws (OPEN IC/MT-PMT).

The State of Britain
21-10-2006, 22:50
The Prime Ministers office, the Palaces of Westminster, London.

Adam Stutler, prime minister and dictator of The Kingdom of the State of Britain, sat at his desk as he reached for his fountain pen in his jacket pocket and then wrote his signature on a new written decree that he had himself personally wrote and designed.

The decree had already been shown to the other members of the British cabinet and has their approval.

The main basis of the decree was the banning of all aspects of homosexuality and sodomy within the borders of Britain and the relevant punishments for those individuals who would defy they law.

A Live News update from the British Television Network (BTN).

Good evening, this is the Nine O' Clock evening news with me, Cynthia Nixon.

His Excellency, Prime Minister Adam Stutler has today issued a decree which is now the written law of the nation, with immediate effect.

The new decree is one that can only make our pure and upright nation evermore stronger in the face of our nation's enemies, both internal and external.

Homosexuality is a social disease, one that weakens the social fabric of the nation and a condition and a criminal state of being that uses sexual deviants and perverts to cause disunity and division within the nation and society.

Homosexuality is the root cause of moral corruption, social degeneracy, drug abuse and addiction, social unrest and organised crime. Homosexual perverts are known for their treason, their high levels of illegal drug use, their partaking in acts which are contary to both law and the sacred teachings of the Holy Bible, their spreading of many viruses including the HIV/AIDS virus, their lack of patriotism and their lack of love for their nation and our great society.

His Excellency, Prime Minister Adam Stutler, as ever is guided by the voice of God and the Prime Minister has always been at the forefront of the global struggle and the national struggle to fight evil and the forces of the Dark Prince, Satan.

In this decree, we see our side, the Christian saide of good and the law of God, winning yet another battle against the forces of Satan and his homosexual minions.

And now BTN News shall present to you the Parliamentary Act for the Law for the Prohibition of Sodomy and Degeneracy 2006:

Parliamentary Act for the Law for the Prohibition of Sodomy and Degeneracy 2006

Article 1: All sexual relations between two or more members of the same sex are now illegal. The punishment for those respective individuals who are in error of this law are to be given an automatic sentence of 25 years forced labour in a Labour Camp for Social Regeneration.

Article 2: In reference of Article 1 of the Parliamentary Act for the Law for the Prohibition of Sodomy and Degeneracy 2006, the definition of a sexual act between two or members of the same sex includes kissing, holding hands, oral sex, peneterative anal and vaginal sex, contact of a erotic nature of sexual organs with one another and all other actions that can sexually arouse two or more people of the same sex.

Article 3: Once convicted of sodomy, no individual can ever have their record of criminality erased. They shall be forever blacklisted under the Sex Offenders Register and shall be known to all concerned about their deeds, even upon them serving their sentence.

Article 4: All films, songs, internet websites, books, comics and other areas of the media shall be cleansed of the filth of pornography, both heterosesual and homosexual, along with any other sexual orientation of a devious nature. State run censorship committees shall now have the full authority of the law to wipe out any reference to sex, sexual arousal, eroticism and other filthy creeds that at present pollute our culture and sicken the minds of men and women who fall for diabolic temptations.

Article 5: Articles 1-4 of the Parliamentary Act for the Law for the Prohibition of Sodomy and Degeneracy 2006, have the blessing of His Excellency, HRH King Charles VI and the blessing and authority of His Excellency, Prime Minister Adam Stutler along with the executive authority of the Cabinet and the National Executive Committee of the Norsefire Front.
The Aeson
21-10-2006, 23:09
"Why do I keep hearing this Stutler's name?" Asked Keene.

"Continous human rights violation. Porn and gays have been outlawed most recently."

Keene continued reading the report.

"Slavery? That's it. He has to go. Options?"

"High altidue bomber, sir. Wipe out the Parliment while their in session, then pull out of their before they can be IDed."

"Too much chance of collateral damage. We're trying to save these people, not kill them."

"The Third Purifier Taskforce, then."

"Two hundred is to many. Send the Third Taskforce, First Squad."

"Yes, sir."
***

OOC: Shaped like RL Britain?
Leafanistan
21-10-2006, 23:13
Triumvirate Council of the Revolutionary Government of the Glorious Republic of Leafanistan

You what bothers me Mr. Stutler? The fact that I am on the Triumvirate Council. I understand High Father's two daughters, and I understand why me, but what I don't understand is why give me so much diplomatic missions. The last peace conference I went to, I was nearly gassed, shot in the chest, and killed 3 men, two with my bare hands, one with a knife.

I delivered the first of dozens of high level arrests during the Second Civil War, and I was with High Father during his mysterious 'passing'.

I really don't have much time for the bureaucratic bullcrap, so let me cut to the chase.

There is no need to waste human lives, if you really want to work them to death, then you are expecting at least 2 years of poorly done and constantly sabotaged labour. There will most likely be a rebellion, and foreign interference.

Save yourself the trouble, deport them all to Leafanistan. The economy of our colonies is depressed and needs fresh blood to reenergize them. We'll pay for all the transportation costs and wire you $200 million US.

So what do you say? Does it have to get harsh?

Signed,
Triumvirate Councilwoman Sandra O'Toole
The Glorious Republic of Leafanistan

[END]
Granate
21-10-2006, 23:40
The Republican Palace, Lucianus, The Republican Monarchy of Granate

King Andrei Klein looked over his paperwork for the week. He sighed, this was his least favorite part of the job. Edicts that needed his signature, or he a poll of questions that was sent to him every now and then. It was becoming a hassle, but Andrei wouldn't have had it any other way.

One folder caught his eye today though. Written on it was urgent, send to the King Immediately. It hand be placed on his desk during his afternoon break and from looks of it, it was quite important. He opened the folder and read through it's contents quickly. He quickly frowned at it. He didn't like it one bit. Even though Granate was a monarchy, there still was Civil Rights. The King himself, was firm proponent of Civil Rights and had added a few since his Crowning. He quickly picked up the red phone that linked him to his Military.

"Admiral, have you read this report on The State of Britain?" The King asked quickly, hoping his General knew nothing. He was wrong.

"I am afraid so, my Liege." He said with a worried tone. Andrei quickly thought for a moment.

"Admiral, deploy the first fleet near The State of Britain Territorial Waters, I am going to tell them how we feel about this" The King said. With that he hung the phone up without waiting for an answer from his Admiral.

Andrei then quickly took out a pad of paper and began to write a letter to Adam Stutler.


Dear Adam Stutler

The Republican Monarchy of Granate is not pleased with the current affairs of your country. Cease and desist what you are doing now. We can't say what will happen if you fail to follow through with this request. Please listen to reason.

Sincerely
His Magesty
King of The Republics
Andrei Kleinhert
Guathic
21-10-2006, 23:49
Incorporated States of Guathic
Bureau of Social Structure

Greetings Britain,

I am just going to put this quite simply, how do you plan on enforcing such a law?

How are you sure that you can prove who is and isn't homosexual? Are you going to go so far as monitor all sexual activity behind closed doors? How do you eliminate the possibility of capturing the wrong people? What about victims of rape by their own gender or multiple people?

And on top of all of this, their punishment is baffling... locking up people in single gendered domiciles... are you against homosexuality, or are you trying to round them all up and make little gay towns?

Just a few thoughts.

Singed,
Administrator of Social Structure
Shazbotdom
21-10-2006, 23:55
OFFICIAL DIPLOMATIC COMMUNIQUE
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TO: Adam Stutler, Dictator of The Kingdom of the State of Britain
FROM: Mr. George A. Loak, Supreme Emperor of the Dark Empire of Shazbotdom

_____We are disgusted by your blatant human rights violations. We demand that if you are to make homosexyality illegal, that you deport these men, women and children to Leafanistan and/or Shazbotdom. Someone of us actually care about human rights, instead of those nations in the "Moral Right" such as yourself who only think with the Bible, we think with our brains instead of a Two Millenia Old Book.

_____We will be sending several modified Boeing 777's to transport these human beings out of your nation if you wish. Please respond as soon as possible.
Guathic
22-10-2006, 00:06
OFFICIAL DIPLOMATIC COMMUNIQUE
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TO: Adam Stutler, Dictator of The Kingdom of the State of Britain
FROM: Mr. George A. Loak, Supreme Emperor of the Dark Empire of Shazbotdom

_____We are disgusted by your blatant human rights violations. We demand that if you are to make homosexyality illegal, that you deport these men, women and children to Leafanistan and/or Shazbotdom. Someone of us actually care about human rights, instead of those nations in the "Moral Right" such as yourself who only think with the Bible, we think with our brains instead of a Two Millenia Old Book.

_____We will be sending several modified Boeing 777's to transport these human beings out of your nation if you wish. Please respond as soon as possible.

Incorporated States of Guathic
Bureau of Social Structure

To Shazbotdom,
The Civil Rights violation of religious opression is off subject. You are the first to mention the Bible here, and it's presense has no mention within the law made by The State of Britain.

Guathic is a mostly Christian nation that uses the Tanakh and Gospel as it's two main guiding forces. Yet we are against this law as well.

Please, Shazbotdom, re-consider your hatred towards Christians.

Signed,
Administrator of Social Structure
Granate
22-10-2006, 00:08
OOC:
Erm
Homosexuality is the root cause of moral corruption, social degeneracy, drug abuse and addiction, social unrest and organised crime. Homosexual perverts are known for their treason, their high levels of illegal drug use, their partaking in acts which are contary to both law and the sacred teachings of the Holy Bible, their spreading of many viruses including the HIV/AIDS virus, their lack of patriotism and their lack of love for their nation and our great society.
It's from The State of Britain's post. Look for yourself. It's 4 paragraphs above the quote
Guathic
22-10-2006, 00:13
OOC:
Erm

It's from The State of Britain's post. Look for yourself. It's 4 paragraphs above the quote

OOC: In character, that was the voice of the news media... in character, we are not posting on a forum. In character, you are regarding an off-hand comment from the news media to equal government policy.
Shazbotdom
22-10-2006, 00:20
OFFICIAL DIPLOMATIC COMMUNIQUE
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TO: Administrator of Social Structure, Incorporated States of Guathic
FROM: Mr. George A. Loak, Supreme Emperor of the Dark Empire of Shazbotdom

_____If you look at most Goverments run by people such as this Adam Stutler, the news media is run by the government in one form or another. For all you know, this news broadcast of theirs is typed up by governmental workers for distribution. And for reference, if a message isn't directed towards your nation, don't intercept it and respond, especially if it is from The Dark Empire of Shazbotdom.

_____I have my own reasons for hating the Religious Right. They once tried to take over the Dark Empire and run us down a path that this Kingdom of the State of Britain is currently heading. Taking away freedoms is the first step towards facism for their nation. People need freedom to prosper. If you relinquish one freedom, soon they will all be gone.

_____Watch your lip young one.
Kahanistan
22-10-2006, 00:22
Najaster, Capital of Kahanistan

Foreign Minister's Office

Dr. Margaret Delray, the Minister of Foreign Affairs, sat behind a large wooden desk, talking to President Marcellus Valens, who was seated in a huge chair made of reinforced steel to support his weight.

"Mr. President, as you can clearly see from this article, the Shazbot Government has condemned the State of Britain for its atrocities."

A cold laugh came from the corner. It was from the President's personal guard commander. "That's rich. They're doing the same thing to Britain that they threatened to invade us for doing to Jenrak. If I remember correctly, didn't we bomb some sense into them for that? Looks like they learned a lesson."

"Enough, Mara," Delray snapped. The President fixed the young officer with a stern look. The Minister continued.

"Now, she may have been a bit blunt, but she does have a point. We're going to look like hypocrites if we don't speak out, especially since homosexuals in our own country not only have civil rights, but serve openly in the military."

"What do you propose we do, then?" asked President Valens. "Certainly you can write a statement of condemnation without my input."

"Actually, I was hoping you would authorize military intervention," said Delray. "I know we're stretched fighting Kraven and Eliteria, but nobody's talking about a massive invasion, just a few fighter wings and some bombers attacking key government facilities, we'd warn the civilians first to get out, we'd just be attacking facilities, but sometimes a missile does go astray..."

The President shifted. "No."

"No? Our air force isn't spread that thin..."

"No. I was elected to keep Kahanistan out of destructive wars. I was not elected to be the world's police officer."

"Destructive wars? We're talking about freeing millions of people, not being massively invaded..."

"No. What do you think will happen when we bomb them? Do you think they will sit there and take it? I have no intention of putting our people at risk."

The President turned around and left the room, followed by his personal guard. She nodded sympathetically at the Foreign Minister, who smiled gratefully back at her.

---

DEMOCRATIC SOVIET REPUBLIC OF KAHANISTAN
Ministry of Foreign Affairs

The Government of Kahanistan demands that such repression of homosexuals, censorship of the arts, and propagation of slavery be immediately halted in the State of Britain.

Any citizen of the State of Britain claiming to be homosexual or otherwise persecuted by that government arriving in Kahanistan will be immediately received by our immigration services, no questions asked.

Further acts of repression may result in harsher measures being taken.

Signed,
Margaret Delray,
Minister of Foreign Affairs

---

While the President had privately vetoed military action, publically he allowed the mobilization of three wings of 20 F-22 Raptors, two wings of MiG-39's, and two wings of B-2 Spirits. These warplanes were hauled out of bunkers and prepared for flights. The idea was to give the impression they were preparing for battle and force the State of Britain to back down.
Rodenka
22-10-2006, 00:29
Dear Sir,

His Majesty directs me to to inform you that he finds this flagrant violation of basic human rights intolerable and that he does not at all approve. His Majesty is wiling to provide transport out of the country for these 'undesirables.'

yours,
Baron Sir Otto von Reiknell, Minister of Foreign Affairs.
Guathic
22-10-2006, 00:31
OFFICIAL DIPLOMATIC COMMUNIQUE
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TO: Administrator of Social Structure, Incorporated States of Guathic
FROM: Mr. George A. Loak, Supreme Emperor of the Dark Empire of Shazbotdom

_____If you look at most Goverments run by people such as this Adam Stutler, the news media is run by the government in one form or another. For all you know, this news broadcast of theirs is typed up by governmental workers for distribution. And for reference, if a message isn't directed towards your nation, don't intercept it and respond, especially if it is from The Dark Empire of Shazbotdom.

_____I have my own reasons for hating the Religious Right. They once tried to take over the Dark Empire and run us down a path that this Kingdom of the State of Britain is currently heading. Taking away freedoms is the first step towards facism for their nation. People need freedom to prosper. If you relinquish one freedom, soon they will all be gone.

_____Watch your lip young one.

OOC: Intercepted? What in your post made it private? No encryption, no tightbeams, no manilla envelopes delivered directly to one man...

And "Watch your lip, young one"... yeah, you've been watching too many cartoons.
Wanderjar
22-10-2006, 00:32
The Wanderjarian GSG-9 will be willing to support our allies in the Dark Empire, in their removal of these peoples. We too believe strongly in Civil Liberty, and as such, would be most honored to assist.
Shazbotdom
22-10-2006, 00:35
OOC: Intercepted? What in your post made it private? No encryption, no tightbeams, no manilla envelopes delivered directly to one man...

And "Watch your lip, young one"... yeah, you've been watching too many cartoons.

OOC:
OOC Disrepsect will not only get you a lot of enemies OOCly...but a lot of people take OOC crap and use it to fuel their IC rage on an enemy. So i would watch yourself as your post could be taken the wrong way. I won't use it against you ICly, but don't respond OOCly to any IC posts. It's bad Rollplaying Form.
Vietnamexico
22-10-2006, 00:46
The Grand Republic hereby denounces this move by the State of Britian, and demands that they repeal the law right now, or expect the reamifications of the international community, a community of reason, not of religious fanaticism.
The State of Britain
22-10-2006, 00:48
The Prime Ministers office, the Palaces of Westminster, London.

Adam Stutler discussed the number of hostile reactions from other nations with regards to the anti-homosexuality law with Britain's Secretary of State for Foreign Affiars, Julian Parkinson.

Both agreed that the prime minister should make a direct response to those nations via a live web video feed.

Stutler had the arrangements made and began his communique:

"Dear heads of state and heads of government of the international community of nations.

It has come to my urgent attention that many of you are displeased with our nation's decision to enact the Parliamentary Act for the Law for the Prohibition of Sodomy and Degeneracy 2006.

Of course I find this situtation most regretable and most sad, for this law is both wise and moral in every way possible way and to oppose it, to me seems like opposing the iron laws of logic itself.

I cannot stress to the international community of nations enough the danger that homosexual perverts pose to the world at large, for they threaten not only to impose havoc, unrest and collapse upon our own great nation, but all other nations too.

Unity against evil is most noble and most sane and our efforts in Britain are just that.

However, it is by the grace of God Almighty that I am a man of peace and man who will always seek to aviod and oppose war and the threat of war when it does indeed arise. Let us, fellow nations, take sound and sane advice and let us work, in the sprirt of Christian brotherhood and under the eye of God Almighty to defuse this pointless crisis, for there was no crisis to begin with.

Let not the fake morality and ethics of 'secularism' and Godlessness impose themselves upon your fine nations and let us not be blinded by their lies and deciet.

The Holy Bible, the literal word and law of God Almighty Himself, is most, most clear, that homosexuality and the public display of sex is both sinful in that it breaks with God's law and His merciful teachings and that it is diabolical in that it does, as history has thaught us, destroy mankind and society by it's very act. Let us fight the Dark Prince and not arm him with yet another weapon by which he wages his evil war against God Almighty and the paradise He has made for us in the next life.

Kingdom of the State of Britain does not execute homosexuals and all we have done is shown our merciful side, in line with the teachings of our sacred Christian Faith and Heritage, that they simply serve a just punishment for the crimes that have done and the suffering they have imposed on decent, hard working, loyal, Christian, God fearing Britons.

All the evidence, research and statistics back our view up. Even before my government administration came to power, when our nation was a democratic one, it was known to all who did the research into it, that homosexuals had a higher rate of illegal drug use, prostitution, theft and sexual openess than the average and normal British subject.

During our nation's dark ages, when we made the foolish mistake of having a democratic political and social system, our nation was one were crime, drug use, terrorism, social unrest, communist unrest and gangsterism ran rife, along with the stagnation of our politics, held back by corruption and a lack of decent willpower and a depressed economy.

Thanks to my own valiant efforts and that of our nation's true party of choice, the Norsefire Front, we have reversed these very ills that once plagued our nation.

Homosexuals were part of that process of national decline, their drug use funded terrorism and thus homosexuals are a major compenent of the global Islamic-Communist-Narcotic terrorist conspiracy. Homosexual perverts had to and still have to be held accountable for their evil crimes and their inability to contribute to the health of our great nation.

The Kingdom of the State of Britain does seek, and only ever seeks, a diplomatic solution to the concerns that have been raised by those respective members of the international community.

Again, I pledge to you, my desire is for a general peace amongst all nations and not a war of agression with any.

The Kingdom of the State of Britain and it's government, under my supervision will take into consideration the views expressed by all nations that have made them and the Kingdom of the State of Britain will discuss and study the possible benefits of the plan made by the nation of Leafanistan, to have all homosexual perverts and sex criminals deported to their nation as exiled criminals.

However, this will be discussed and the Kingdom of the State of Britain cannot promise anything until such a decision has been made.

With that, I offer my blessings and my prayers to you all and I hope that we, under the ever watchful eye of God Almighty, can resolve this situation to the benefit of all."
Ezaltia
22-10-2006, 00:50
"Greetings, fellow leaders of the international community.

"We have just recieved word that the State of Britain has institiuted a series of laws designed to persecute and terminate all persons who have homosexual tendency. These laws impose a 25-year term of slavery on all homesexual person, and British authorities are in the process of eliminating pornography and erotica from all works of art and media.

"In short, my fellow leaders, the Principality of Ezaltia condemns the State of Britain for these barbaric acts. We are currently mobilizing the 1st Army against Britain, and urge the nation to send us any homosexual refugees they may have. This is our final ultimatum. Cease your actions immediately, or face invasion."

"In other news, the Spartans won 3-nil today..."
Leafanistan
22-10-2006, 01:03
Port Sierra

A fleet was prepared, and sailed toward the coastline, toward a point 400km from the coast, its official purpose was wargames with Guathic.

1 'Aristaqis' Class Trimaran Assualt Dreadnaught
2 Pathfinder Class Assault Dreadnaughts
-5 Red Square Class Arsenal Ships
-2 Merlin ASW/AEW Helicopters
2 Indestructable Class Supercarriers
-65 Lu-12 Canary Tactical Strike Fighters
-45 Su-82 Air Superiority Fighters
-5 EA-18G Growler Electronic Warfare Aircraft
-10 Merlin ASW Helicopters
3 Indomintable Class Escort Carriers
-10 GLI-76 Falcon VTOLs
-5 Merlin ASW/AEW Helicopters
3 Motherland Class Battleships
-2 Merlin ASW/AEW Helicopters
2 Taníat Class Anti-Air Battlecruisers
5 Calculus Class Guided Missile Cruisers
-1 Merlin ASW Helicopter
2 Oddly Configured Calculus Class Guided Missile Cruisers
8 Illium Class Destroyers
-2 Merlin ASW Helicopters
10 Delta Class Destroyers
-1 Merlin ASW Helicopter
17 North Sea Class Frigates
-1 Merlin ASW Helicopter
12 Talwar class Frigates
-1 Merlin ASW/AEW Helicopter
9 Cartagena Class SSNs
10 Tenerife Class SSHs
Leafanistan
22-10-2006, 01:08
blah

Triumvirate Council of the Revolutionary Government of the Glorious Republic of Leafanistan

We are forcing your hand. We've watched far too many innocents die under the hands of tyrants because of 'peace talks' or 'discussions' or my personal favorite, 'stalling'. There is a fleet on its way to your nation, on it contains a revolutionary new weapon designed to turn navies into scrap metal.

You have 1 week to yield to our demands, all those whom you 'disagree' with are to be deported to Leafanistan. Any new cases are also to be deported to Leafanistan.

Signed,
Triumvirate Council Sandra O'Toole
The Glorious Republic of Leafanistan

[END]
Ezaltia
22-10-2006, 01:25
If Leafanistan does not mind, The Ezaltian Navy will tag along once we recieve our new shipment of ships and aircraft.
Wanderjar
22-10-2006, 01:29
"Greetings, fellow leaders of the international community.

"We have just recieved word that the State of Britain has institiuted a series of laws designed to persecute and terminate all persons who have homosexual tendency. These laws impose a 25-year term of slavery on all homesexual person, and British authorities are in the process of eliminating pornography and erotica from all works of art and media.

"In short, my fellow leaders, the Principality of Ezaltia condemns the State of Britain for these barbaric acts. We are currently mobilizing the 1st Army against Britain, and urge the nation to send us any homosexual refugees they may have. This is our final ultimatum. Cease your actions immediately, or face invasion."

"In other news, the Spartans won 3-nil today..."


SECRET IC:



Though we believe Diplomacy may handle the situation, if you still insist on going through with the operation, I will support you. However, do not be so quick to declare war.
The Aeson
22-10-2006, 01:29
OOC: I'm assuming it's Leafanistanis based on Pakistanis, but correct me if I am wrong and I will edit.

IC: "Holy sir, we're ready to deploy the Purifiers, but..."

"What but? Why is there a but?"

"Holy sir, the Leafanistanis have a fleet four hundred kilometers off of the coast."

"Purpose?"

"They're demanding that instead of labor camps, the homosexuals be deported to them."

"Insignificant. This is not, by far, the first time this Sutler has pulled a stunt like this, and it is unlikely to be the last. The Leafanistanis are to be commended for their efforts, but they're attacking a symptom, not the disease. We remove Sutler, the country can begin to convalesce."

"Then the Purifiers?"

"Deploy them as scheduled. Sutler must, and will, be removed from power."

OOC: Okay, what type of shore defenses/patrols have you got?
Ezaltia
22-10-2006, 01:38
SECRET IC:



Though we believe Diplomacy may handle the situation, if you still insist on going through with the operation, I will support you. However, do not be so quick to declare war.

I agree, however, Leafanistan is bent on war, and I will accompany him.
Leafanistan
22-10-2006, 01:42
OOC: I'm a facist dictatorship with plenty of Civil Rights, but no political rights beyond hte local level. I can go to war, but I choose not to, I want to force peace, and force regime change without firing more than a few shots.

And I plan to do some scare work before full on engagement if engagement is necessary. I want to test out some new toys. Anyone can tag along provided they dont' fire a shot until they engage us directly.
Granate
22-10-2006, 01:45
To: The Nations involved with The State of Britain.

Should this come to war. Any and all nations willing to help the Citizens of The State of Britain have the Republican Monarchy of Granate's Full Support. While we won't be deploying any more then our first fleet (Already on the Scene), we will endeavor to assist any and all.

Sincerely
His Magesty
King of the Republics
Andrei Kleinhert

Edit: The First Fleet
1st Fleet (Expeditionary Fleet):
1x Empire Class Carrier GRS Lucianus
2x Admiral Class Carrier GRS Willentho, GRS Benebruck
1x Valkyrie Class Helicopter Assault Carrier GRS Almbruck,
2x Hunter Class Submarine GRS Kais, GRS Uru
2x Nautilus Class Submarine GRS Seawolf, GRS Lycan
2x Dolphin Class Submarine GRS Victory, GRS Glorious
4x Stingray Class Cruiser GRS Vigilance, GRS Granate, GRS Futaba, GRS Aoi
4x Thunder Class Cruiser GRS Thunder, GRS Lightning, GRS Storm, GRS Tornado
2x Flank Class Destroyer PT-05, PR-06
3x Search Class Destroyer PT-07, PT-08, PT-09
1x Lord Class Battleship GRS Bornsbruck
2x Orca Class Battleship GRS Nova, GRS Ara
4x Chieftain Class Pocket Battleship GRS Ons, GRS Sanyrna, GRS Stropka, GRS Penerbruck
Ezaltia
22-10-2006, 01:50
OOC: I'm a facist dictatorship with plenty of Civil Rights, but no political rights beyond hte local level. I can go to war, but I choose not to, I want to force peace, and force regime change without firing more than a few shots.

And I plan to do some scare work before full on engagement if engagement is necessary. I want to test out some new toys. Anyone can tag along provided they dont' fire a shot until they engage us directly.

10-4. I'm really not fully prepared to go to war anyway. I'll wait ofr your go-ahead.
The State of Britain
22-10-2006, 03:51
Bump
Kahanistan
22-10-2006, 05:55
Najaster, Capital of Kahanistan

Presidential Palace

President Marcellus Valens read his newspaper in his office. This is not good... Fulton is right. We will look like ineffectual hypocrites, the Leafanistanis are mobilizing a fleet, if Kaselev's intelligence is accurate, and it usually is... Igor Kaselev was one of the best intelligence agents in Kahanistan, if not the entire Middle East. However, his recent promotion to Brigadier General made it increasingly risky to send him.

His door opened. Major Fulton, the guard commander, walked in, carrying a newspaper. She was a tall, slender, attractive brunette in her late 20's, and she was smiling widely for the first time Valens had seen her smile in months. She thinks we will intervene with these latest discoveries. This woman has not smiled since before I became President, the Freekish invasion has gotten to her. I lost my wife then, it has gotten to me, too... I understand her, I understand her so badly it hurts.

As the President had guessed, Fulton laid the paper bare on his desk, a triumphant expression on her face. "Even the fascists are coming out and preparing for an invasion. Looks like we can't hide behind the isolationist umbrella forever."

"Major, I have read the report," said Valens, pulling his own copy of the Najaster Times out from under Fulton's. "We are not isolationist, we are fighting too widely, just because the Kravanian and Southeast Asian invasions seem to have stalled does not mean we can pull troops, as soon as they withdraw the Kraven Corporation will launch an offensive against the weakened defenses."

"Who said anything about withdrawing? We have over eight million troops sitting here, just playing with their balls. While we talk, the Doomies are running slave camps, MassPwnage is bombing and killing somebody else's civilians, the Sarzonians have gone into isolation, and with them, the strongest member of the Woodstock Pact, we can't even import from them, we're stuck with inferior Soviet junk, I don't even want to talk about AMF..."

"Enough!" snapped President Valens. It was rare for him to even raise his voice, let alone snap at someone. "Major, if you feel so strongly about airstrikes against the State of Britain, why do you not command the attack force? I am certain that Captain Beckett will not mind filling in for you for the duration." Captain Aleister Beckett was the second-in-command of the President's security. He was the polar opposite of Major Fulton... or more accurately, he was the mirror image of her before the Freekish invasion. He was warm, open, very outgoing and friendly, and liked to drink with his troops when off duty.

Fulton just stared at Valens. The President continued.

"I am completely serious, Major Fulton. Now, I am fully aware of your lack of flight experience. However, commanders are not chosen for their combat aptitude, but for their ability to keep a cool head in combat and make effective decisions under fire, attributes you have repeatedly demonstrated. However, I will assign a combat advisor to you."

He handed Fulton a file on a Republic Guard officer, one Lieutenant Colonel Nadia Sklenova. She was 32 years old, a Hero of the Republic, and looked like a Russian model - average height, fairly thin, but still quite pretty. "She will advise you on the tactical situation. She is of a higher rank, but you are the overall commander. However, if you are put out of action, she has orders to immediately take command. Any questions?"

Fulton just stared blankly at the President, unable to respond.

"Your flight suit is in your office, we were able to find one in your size."

Fulton stared for a few more seconds. Finally, she turned around without speaking and walked out of the President's chamber, back to her office. Great was her surprise to find a flight suit in her size, draped across her chair. She took it into the women's room and changed. The form-fitting suit got her laughed and jeered at by the male officers she passed.

"Didn't know you were into BDSM," one man guffawed. Kahanistanian flight suits tended to be skin-tight, and this one did make her look like a dominatrix minus the whip.

"You must not be on the gridiron team," Mara said coldly. The implication of sexual promiscuity would not harm her, people of all sexual habits were allowed to serve openly in the Kahanistanian military.

The man and his friends just jeered at the young woman. She passed by without another word, exiting the palace. She met the woman from the file, who calmly extended her hand to the visibly shocked commander.

"Hello. Lieutenant Colonel Nadia Sklenova, Republic Guard. I trust President Valens explained everything to you."

"He did," said Fulton. "He showed me your file, he seemed certain I'd be killed."

"Well, I'm not. I find that when you adopt that attitude about someone under your command, you end up abandoning them in your subconscious and they end up dead nine times out of ten. The trust of a commander is very important," said Sklenova. "I prefer not to lose anyone under my command, it never gets easier."

"With respect, Colonel, President Valens appointed me the commander of this operation. He told me that you were merely my combat advisor."

"Very well, I'll try to avoid being overbearing. This is as new to me as commanding a wing is to you."

The two women climbed into a 1969 Dodge, Sklenova's personal vehicle. "Ever flown in a MiG before?" asked the older woman.

"No, just a Cessna, and I crashed that," said Fulton. "With Mr. Valens on board."

"That's not good," said Sklenova, turning onto the highway towards Al-Qamar. "But keep radio contact with me and I'll tell you exactly what to do for landing, while you make the command decisions."

"Good idea. You seem really nice, what made you become a military officer?" asked Fulton as they arrived at the base.

"I've never had a stomach for atrocities," replied Sklenova. "I couldn't bear to sit at home while reading about Doomani slave camps or nations like MassPwnage holding freedom in their own countries and slaughtering civilians en masse in other nations..."

"There is something hypocritical about that," said Fulton. They parked and exited the base, where they entered separate aircraft, both of them climbed into MiG-39's.

Fulton sat at her radio and listened to the instructions. "Take the stick and accelerate to 500 kilometers per hour, then disengage the landing gear," said Sklenova's voice through the headset. "Then fire the afterburner, the GREEN button on your left, not the red one, that's the ejection."

She did as instructed; the flight seemed to be very easy.

"Now, the red stick is the weapon control, squeeze the trigger to fire the machine guns, move it to the left or right to select a missile point and the button on top to fire it. Don't worry too much about combat yet, you're just commanding troops this operation, they know what to do."

It would be about twelve hours before they arrived in the State of Britain, after refueling at the nearest carrier...
Velkya
22-10-2006, 06:40
Official Statement From The Allied Union Of Velkya

The Allied Union is appalled with the strong imperialistic sentiment and hypocrisy arising under the banner of "freedom" and "tolerance". Entire armies and fleets are poised to go to war, carrying through unjustified and unnecessary threats against a nation for exercising its sovereign rights as an independent nation.

However, this does not exclude the said nation from being exempt from its own crimes. Attempting to veil obvious slavery and dehumanization behind a cloak of supposed morality and righteousness, the State of Britain seeks to not only outlaw homosexual desires, but to cull and eventually erase the sexual desires of all people. In a move strikingly similar to Hitler's branding of the Jews as traitors to greater Germany, the false "Prime Minister" of Britain seeks to brand all "deviants" as outcasts, stripping them of all rights and sending them to toil in forced labor camps, supposedly acting under the authority of God, while violating both he and his son's basic teachings.

Hate the sin, love the sinner.

All human beings born in this world, according to Christian principles, are sinners, making the homosexual no different from any other man or woman. Furthermore, this obviously deranged man calling himself a leader then attempts to blame homosexuals exclusively for criminal activities, an obvious deception to anyone with half a brain in their skull. Perhaps, contrary to his already dubious rhetoric, Mr. Stutler is himself an agent of Satan, the great deceiver.

Regardless of such idiocies and fallacies incorporated into the legal systems and government of Britain, we are, unlike many other nations, willing to seek a peaceful solution to this crisis before it can escalate into a war that will undoubtedly result in the deaths of innocent British civilians who have already suffered much under such a poor and ineffectual leader.

It is with this reasoning that we give the Mr. Stutler forty-eight standard hours to step down from his position as head of state and executive of his government and appoint a saner candidate for this position. Should this clear and simple demand not be met, we’ll pursue a quite different course of action to resolve this situation.

You have our word.
The State of Britain
22-10-2006, 07:39
Official Communique of the Office of the Department of Foreign Affairs of the Kingdom of the State of Britain

The Kingdom of the State of Britain, it's government and all associated offices and the Office of the Prime Minister have seen the reactions made by those irresponsible members of the international community and the grave threats they have sought to impose upon our nation, in an attempt to alter the policies of our nation, infringe upon our national sovereignty and attempts to despose the ELECTED, LEGAL and CONSTITUTIONALLY LEGIMTIMATE position of His Excellency, Prime Minister Adam Stutler.

The Prime Minister offered peace, dialogue and a peaceful and non-violent path for this situtation to be resolved.

Yet none of the current responding nations have shown any respect for the Prime Minister's patience, his desire for peace or our willingness to engage in a purposeful dialogue.

This has only caused the level of respect the Prime Minister had for those said nations to decrease to a new low.

Until such a time those said nations can construct a muture and reasoned position with regards to our nation's internal affiars, our nation shall continue in it's efforts to root out sexual deviancy and the pollution caused by homosexual degeneracy.

The Prime Minister is a man of firm and righteous principle and shall not cower under any threat, be it from within or without.

Britain stands firm against all agressors and shall not tolerate blackmail and threats of violence and agression.

Likewise, the Prime Minister is still open to other possible solutions to solve this crisis.

But those possible solutions will not in any way include any demand for a change in the government of Britain, a change in the position of the Prime Minister or any act of military intervention by any nation inside of Britain's land, seas and/or skies.

Secretary of State for Foreign Affiars of the Kingdom of the State of Britain

Julian Parkinson
Ezaltia
22-10-2006, 07:42
The Principlaity of Ezaltia urges you again to send those you do not want (e.g. homosexuals) to our nation. You will be free of your unwanted ones and none will die.
Kahanistan
22-10-2006, 07:48
The Republic Guard had only dispatched the one fighter wing, twenty MiG-39's. It was hoped that simply poking around in their airspace would show the State of Britain that the D.S.R.K. meant business.

Colonel Sklenova had strongly urged that combat not be initiated; the invasion of the State's sovereign territory might be construed as sufficient provocation and firing the first shot was not going to help matters. Non-stealthy aircraft had been chosen for two reasons: to make a show of force and to carry a heavier missile loadout if they were attacked.

Fulton opened a radio channel to her wing. "All right, we are approaching enemy airspace in one hour, do not engage unless engaged."
Southeastasia
22-10-2006, 11:05
[OOC: Saharistan, I presume?]
The Aeson
22-10-2006, 14:12
The small craft were dropped into the water, several feet outside of British territorial waters, by a stealth plane. Immediately they sank several feet underwater, and began propelling themselves towards shore. The DDVs (or Diver Delivery Vehicles) were delta shaped, and moved via water propulsion. They were also transparent.

The men riding on them, were only slightly more visible. The suits they wore, while not any sort of invisibility suit, had a wide range of colors they could change into in order to aid with camoflage. Currently they were black. Their destination was a small island, known as Tintagel, just off of the coast of the nation.
Velkya
22-10-2006, 16:08
(OOC: Isn't magically sending troops into somebody else's land considered godmoding?)
The Aeson
22-10-2006, 16:13
(OOC: Isn't magically sending troops into somebody else's land considered godmoding?)

OOC: Well, to be fair, I have asked him several times what, if any, patrols or defenses he had, but yeah, I'll edit.

Edit... better?
The Kraven Corporation
22-10-2006, 17:47
Captain Cortell strode across the deck of his Subjugator class Super Dreadnaught, he’d just received his orders, and he didn’t like them.

The High Command had received a message from some tiny nation that in return for military assistance against aggressors mounting against them, they would in return grant us sovereignty over a portion of their lands, to be precise Scotland and Wales, the High Command decided that the resources available in England was enough to send out a Kraven Battalion of Centurians to assist in the defences and so, Captain Cortell was to take a battle fleet of two hundred and fifty vessels Including his Super Dreadnaught, break off from the main Column and head towards the State of Britain and assist in the defence of the nation…

He didn’t like it, he wanted to be part of the South East Asian deployment, but he no choice but to obey his orders, lest the Capitol Police Sturmpanzers on board massacred him and his crew, then continued on with the operation without him…

A message was sent to the State of Britain informing them of the aid, and to prepare for the Fleets arrival, while at the same time, The High Command sent a message informing the world of Kraven’s stance in the current situation…


The Supreme Overlord State of The Kraven Corporation

It has come to our attention that the nation of The State of Britain is coming under increased pressure and the threat of Military action, It has been decided that a Kraven Battalion of Centurians will be deployed to the nation to assist in the Defense should any threat turn into Action...

The High Command
Kahanistan
23-10-2006, 11:40
(OOC: I have made several posts expressing intent to enter British airspace, and my most recent placed my forces an hour's flight away in a MiG-39, a.k.a. Mikoyan Project 1.44.)

The MiG wing, now half an hour from their destination, raised altitude to their ceiling of 17,000 meters. They were not going to engage unless the enemy did, and if they were engaged, they had orders to return fire, break off, and retreat, to get reinforcements. This was merely a scout wing, to see what the British response would be.
The State of Britain
23-10-2006, 16:57
Official Communique of the Office of the Department of Foreign Affairs of the Kingdom of the State of Britain

The Office of the Department of Foreign Affairs of the Kingdom of the State of Britain announces to the world a Treaty of Mutual Defense and Security that has been made and signed between the Kingdom of the State of Britain and the Kraven Corporation.

This Treaty of Mutual Defense and Security between our two nations ensures that both nations uphold the sovereignty, defense, security and stability, both internal and external, of our two respective nations.

That any nation which subverts, attacks, invades or makes any other gesture of an agressive intent towards either respective nation will find themselves at war with both the Kingdom of the State of Britain and the Kraven Corporation.

As part of this Treaty for Mutual Defense and Security, the Kingdom of the State of Britain will hand over two regions of Britain, Scotland and Wales, to the Kraven Corporation. This transfer of state sovereignty of Scotland and Wales from Britain to the Kraven Corporation will take immediate effect upon the public release of this Treaty for Mutual Defense and Security.

As of now, the Kingdom of the State of Britain is made up of the following constituent regions:

England
Channel Islands
Isle of Man/Manx
Ulster/Northern Ireland

Let this Treaty for Mutual Defense and Security uphold the integrity, security and general well being of both of our great nations and may this Treaty for Mutual Defense and Security deter ALL foreign agressors who seek to harm and undermine our two respective nations, due to their irrational policies of intervening in the internal affairs of our two respective nation.

Long Live the Kingdom of the State of Britain!

Long Live the Kraven Corporation!

May God Almighty bless His Excellency, Prime Minister Adam Stutler and His Excellency, Father!

Secretary of State for Foreign Affiars of the Kingdom of the State of Britain

Julian Parkinson

Prime Minister of the Kingdom of the State of Britain and First Lord of the Privy Council

Right Honourable Dr. Adam Stutler CBE.
Kahanistan
23-10-2006, 17:23
(Ah, hell. Guess my forces are just being ignored.)

As the fighter wing neared British airspace, Major Fulton spoke over her radio. "Those ships, they don't look British to me... they look like Kraven battleships."

The response from the military advisor was one of shock. "Say what? Kraven?"

"Yup. We should get out of here," said the Major, performing a flip maneuver followed by a barrel roll to escape.

"You don't have to tell me twice," Sklenova replied. "Let's get out of here, get reinforcements or something, find out what's going on. I think the Defense Ministry will want to know what's going on."

"Agreed." The fighter wing turned around and headed back toward Kahanistan as fast as the afterburners would take it.
Leafanistan
23-10-2006, 19:39
The Fleet sat still (400km from coastline), mostly running electronic survellience. It had picked up on the Kraven Fleet and most likely the Kraven fleet had picked up on theirs. The Leafanistani didn't like running dark, so their massive fleet emissions occasionally acted as jammers against enemy electromagnetic transmissions.

The majority of the emissions came from the strange cruisers that sat in the center of the fleet next to the aircraft carriers.

Triumvirate Council of the Revolutionary Government of the Glorious Republic of Leafanistan

Stutler, end it all now. Deport them to us, what say you?

[END]

A Kreigzimmer built long-range UAV took off, it was to survey the Channel Islands, with a specific councentration on Jersey. It was to be a stepping stone to later conquests in the region if it came to that.
Leafanistan
23-10-2006, 19:41
Message to Allied Forces

We have designated our rally point 400km off the coast of Britian, 250km off the coast of France, Rally Point Alpha, anyone willing to bring a fleet may do so at this point.

We have also gathered intelligence on the Kraven Fleet and are currently gathering low-level flights over the Channel Islands.

We have detected the Kahanistani Flight, and are watching.

[END]
Shazbotdom
23-10-2006, 19:45
OFFICIAL DIPLOMATIC COMMUNIQUE
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TO: Adam Stutler, Dictator of The Kingdom of the State of Britain
FROM: Mr. George A. Loak, Supreme Emperor of the Dark Empire of Shazbotdom

_____While the Dark Empire does not threaten Military Action, we do ask that instead of jailing the unwanted (ie homosexuals) in your naiton, that you deport them to the nations that have said they will take them peacefuly.

_____The Dark Empire of Shazbotdom will allow aircraft from The Kingdom of the State of Britain into our territorial airspace to deliver your unwanted element to our nation and we will pay you a hefty sum of money out of our Government Waste, which is just taking up space in the National Treasury. Roughly $800 USD for each person should be sufficient enough, correct?

_____Please consider our offer and respond at your earliest convenience.
Shazbotdom
23-10-2006, 19:49
ENCRYPTED DIPLOMATIC COMMUNIQUE
http://usera.imagecave.com/CaptainDeath/Flags/shazbotdomflag.jpg
TO: Lefanistani Fleet
FROM: Mr. George A. Loak, Supreme Emperor of the Dark Empire of Shazbotdom
ENCRYPTION: Level Alpha Five Clearance

_____While we are in the Commonwealth of Indepenant Nations together, we must take a neutral stance in the conflict that will happen if our attempt at gaining these refugees in a peaceful process does not work.

_____We pray that this does not come to war and hope that they accept our terms for taking the homosexuals off of their hands.
The Kraven Corporation
23-10-2006, 20:10
Southern England, The Mouth of the Thames Estuary

The Kraven fleet was breaking into the waters surrounding the State of Britain, the fleet had already been picked up by several observers which is what Kraven wanted, and as such the entire fleet was running hot, with active Battle language transmissions being sent into Britain and between vessels in the fleets…

Captain Cortell stood looking at the lush green forests of England’s shores, he felt a certain sense of pride that he was doing his bit for the Corporation but at the same time, the feeling in his gut said, he didn’t want to be here, he wanted to be in the South East Asian deployment… still he bit his lip and carried out his orders…

The fleet had arrived just outside the outlet of the Thames in London, the fleet was large enough to prevent any traffic entering the river or from leaving, but this wasn’t Kraven’s intention to blockade the port, it was just deploying the first part of the Battalion in the defence of the Capitol City..

The Transport boats were launched quickly and effectively, with the utmost efficiency that was akin to all Kraven Operations, Officers were present with the Centurians as well as several armoured vehicles, APC’s Leman Russ Battle Tanks and ZSU 633’s for general Anti Air cover…

The waters of the Thames were cast aside as each of the transport craft cut their way through the waters, the powerful V8 engines pushed the craft with a distinct noise that was notably a Kraven made engine, the pilot of the craft turned the wheel slightly to bring the small transport craft on a new heading…

Within minutes of the craft being deployed the first few crashed upon the shores of the Thames, the heavy metal landing ramp crashed onto the soft sands, and within seconds the Black jackboots of the Centurians stormed ashore, one of each squad held a Banner of the twin hammers, while other Centurians began to fan out looking for signs of enemy movements, possible deployments or booby traps…

It hadn’t taken long before the stretch of the coast line roughly half a mile long was in Kraven hands, Centurians already setting up Patrol routes, while one by one, Tanks and engineer vehicles rolled up onto the shore to begin the construction of the Kraven Beach head during this Campaign…

A Larger Transport vessel moved in closer towards shore, it had large cranes mounted upon the main section of the vessel and was used to create a makeshift dock to allow for the larger transport vessels to move in and start the deployment of the remaining Battalion.

All at the same time however the main fleet watched for Aggressors and actively searched the skies, looking for signs of enemy air craft or unidentified incoming hostiles, the Kraven forces were in position now and were ready to react to any enemy incursion should it so happen…
Commonalitarianism
23-10-2006, 20:19
Live terrorist attack on parliament. Several closet homosexuals worked at the parliament building in Britain. They were very angry. A man in black had offered them an aerosol gas designed to look like lysol cans and cleaning agents. Several men in the cleaning crew late at night, secretly placed the aerosol cans in various places. While the debate started about homosexuals in parliament, the cans exploded releasing a powerful pink aphrodisiac gas called "gay bombs." While not lethal, this brought out the sexual proclivities of the parliament members making them most likely go berserk with lust. Their skin also itched and it made them want to tear their clothes off. Some very interesting pictures would most likely be broadcast for a few moments...
Leafanistan
23-10-2006, 20:21
OOC: Kraven, my favorite guy to loot and sell his armour for. ;)

Do you have stats on the ships and vehicles, you used to have a link to them but now it is gone. Also what kind of light vehicles do you use? To fake the Kraven look, I've been using upgraded WWII vehicles.

Example being:
Leichter Panzerspähwagen 225: (20mm Assualt Cannon, 1 Jackhammer ATGM, 1 GPMG)/(25mm RHAe)/(350hp V8 Engine, Max Road: 85 MPH, Max OffRoad: 35 MPH, Range: 200 miles)

If you want to take that idea, it is fine, makes me more authentic.

Ministry of Foreign Relations

Despite the harsh stance the Council has given, the Senate has seen it fit to pay the Stutler government $500 US per person deported.

We will not check to see if they are homosexuals, every person you deport in good condition will equal money sent to your coffers. Every mistreated person will only go for $250 US.

[END]
Ezaltia
23-10-2006, 22:53
The RES Chimaera, a Intrepid-class carrier, set out from Avalon Royal Navy Base later that day, accompanied by the RES Scylla, a Dauntless-class battleship, and their accompanying task force. They started to sail for the rendezvous point set by the the Leafinstani forces.

OOC: for the RP's sake, I'll be Norway.
Coronisa
23-10-2006, 23:23
His Excellency, Prime Minister Adam Stutler

From: Isaac Miles Linwood

I fully respect your nations sovreingty. Though I do not fully agree with your stands on homosexuals and pornography, The un-agrovated assualults on your nation are unacceptable. Every nation has its right to sovreingty and autonomy, and that right is being blatantly violated by nations with radically differnt belife systems. Coronisia stands ready to render any and all required assistance for your nations sovreignty.
The World Soviet Party
23-10-2006, 23:25
His Excellency, Prime Minister Adam Stutler

From: Isaac Miles Linwood

I fully respect your nations sovreingty. Though I do not fully agree with your stands on homosexuals and pornography, The un-agrovated assualults on your nation are unacceptable. Every nation has its right to sovreingty and autonomy, and that right is being blatantly violated by nations with radically differnt belife systems. Coronisia stands ready to render any and all required assistance for your nations sovreignty.

OOC: Wow, and that shows us how good are the capitalist countries.
I'd have my Socialist Democracy over it any day, pal.
Errikland
23-10-2006, 23:28
OOC: Wow, and that shows us how good are the capitalist countries.
I'd have my Socialist Democracy over it any day, pal.

OOC: So respecting another nation's sovereignty is a bad thing?

And how does that conflict with Socialism(the government owning industry)?
The World Soviet Party
23-10-2006, 23:30
OOC: So respecting another nation's sovereignty is a bad thing?

And how does that conflict with Socialism(the government owning industry)?

Just wondering, how he can he claim us to be bad, people killing dictators when he has just offered military and economic aid to a country which is killing their own just for their sexual preferences?
Errikland
23-10-2006, 23:33
Just wondering, how he can he claim us to be bad, people killing dictators when he has just offered military and economic aid to a country which is killing their own just for their sexual preferences?

Because you have a system which is known to spit upon sovereignty (Workers of the World, Unite!), whereas he is protecting the sovereign right of a nation to do what it will (so long as it is confined to itself) regardless of how much we do not like it.
Coronisa
23-10-2006, 23:34
^^ what he said
The World Soviet Party
23-10-2006, 23:39
Because you have a system which is known to spit upon sovereignty (Workers of the World, Unite!), whereas he is protecting the sovereign right of a nation to do what it will (so long as it is confined to itself) regardless of how much we do not like it.

OOC: Not quite, I have a socialist system (like Canada and Sweden) that helps my people not to like, die of a common or cold or be worked to said death while mantaining a little free-market.
Mer des Ennuis
23-10-2006, 23:40
If half of the strong leaders of my nation weren't about to be found dead in their beds, I'd be using this nation for target practice. Consider that a warning (kraven or no kraven).
Errikland
23-10-2006, 23:45
OOC: Not quite, I have a socialist system (like Canada and Sweden) that helps my people not to like, die of a common or cold or be worked to said death while mantaining a little free-market.

OOC: If that were all that you had(though I believe that there is great injustice in taking mony from some, in the form of taxes, and giving it away to others, in this case in medicine), then you would be right.
However, you have joined the Union of Communist Nations(which in itelf makes no sense being that Communism despises the idea of a nation), and are currently attacking the soveriegnty of another nation, which I believe is what this argument was about in the first place.
The World Soviet Party
23-10-2006, 23:48
However, you have joined the Union of Communist Nations(which in itelf makes no sense being that Communism despises the idea of a nation), and are currently attacking the soveriegnty of another nation, which I believe is what this argument was about in the first place.

Well, we decided that the name Union of Communist Nations (UCN) had a better ring to it than Union of Communist/Socialist Nations (UCSN).
And, what nation's sovereignity are we attacking?
Errikland
23-10-2006, 23:57
Well, we decided that the name Union of Communist Nations (UCN) had a better ring to it than Union of Communist/Socialist Nations (UCSN).
And, what nation's sovereignity are we attacking?

The one that this thread is based around.
The World Soviet Party
23-10-2006, 23:59
The one that this thread is based around.

This thread didnt start because they are attacking him, it started because he openly declared he'd kill gay people.
And, AFAIK, if a capitalist country had attacked him, no one would have complained, so, HAH!
Errikland
24-10-2006, 00:03
This thread didnt start because they are attacking him, it started because he openly declared he'd kill gay people.
And, AFAIK, if a capitalist country had attacked him, no one would have complained, so, HAH!

Whether or not this thread was started because he is killing sodomites or by invasion because of that pre-established fact, it remains a violation of his sovereignty.

If he had been attacked by a nation who happened to be capitalist (assuming it is all the same circumstances aside) I would still have condemned it. "so, HAH!"

What is AFAIK?
The World Soviet Party
24-10-2006, 00:05
AFAIK = As Far As I Know

Yes, I know you would, but would everyone else?
Errikland
24-10-2006, 00:07
AFAIK = As Far As I Know

Yes, I know you would, but would everyone else?

OOC: *shrugs* I cannot control their actions, try as I may.
Clandonia Prime
24-10-2006, 00:08
Official Clandonian Response
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Surely, this is a internal British issue not one open for the international community which reacts with invasion forces and blockades when times have gone by when they do not bat an eye lid the genocide a of a tribal people. Noteablly by the ammount of communist states intervening, the Clandonian Government sees this an attempt to force regime change under the flag of the hammer and sickle. We praise the effects of the Kraven Corporation to safeguard the British people.
If the world wanted to react to this, it would of been better if they offered safe passage for the homosexuals of Britain in their own countries instead of bringing in the fleet.
[NS]Zukariaa
24-10-2006, 00:10
Official Message From the High Commander
TO:Whoever
FROM: The High Commander

Meh. Gays can't reproduce and are girly, so they arn't welcome in Zukariaa, either. Neither are retards. They're useless consumers of resources and time. Besides, who wants retards and gays screwing up the gene pool by adopting kids or being around kids and making them scarred for life?
Signed, The High Commander

OOC-That isn't an invitation to invade me(unless preplanned..). You can condemn my actions, though. :3
imported_ViZion
24-10-2006, 00:13
Live terrorist attack on parliament. Several closet homosexuals worked at the parliament building in Britain. They were very angry. A man in black had offered them an aerosol gas designed to look like lysol cans and cleaning agents. Several men in the cleaning crew late at night, secretly placed the aerosol cans in various places. While the debate started about homosexuals in parliament, the cans exploded releasing a powerful pink aphrodisiac gas called "gay bombs." While not lethal, this brought out the sexual proclivities of the parliament members making them most likely go berserk with lust. Their skin also itched and it made them want to tear their clothes off. Some very interesting pictures would most likely be broadcast for a few moments...
OOC: terrorism makes this game fun, but that's flat out godmod. Re-do your post please or everyone'll just ignore you.

Also, guys, get back on RPing, start an OOC thread for all the OOC talk... keep this to IC/RPing before this thread falls apart. This was going good until the OOC arguments/talk.

Back to the RP now...
Errikland
24-10-2006, 00:13
Zukariaa;11847198']Official Message From the High Commander
TO:Whoever
FROM: The High Commander

Meh. Gays can't reproduce and are girly, so they arn't welcome in Zukariaa, either. Neither are retards. They're useless consumers of resources and time. Besides, who wants retards and gays screwing up the gene pool by adopting kids or being around kids and making them scarred for life?
Signed, The High Commander

OOC-That isn't an invitation to invade me(unless preplanned..). You can condemn my actions, though. :3

OOC: Ah, Zuk. Gotta love ya, man. The retard part is a bit harsh, but hey.
Just a minor note: Gays, assuming they are not reproducing some how, cannot effect the gene pool. They can certainly effect the children, though, just like you are saying.

EDIT: Didn't see post above. Will stop OOC
Shiznaka Boudrap
24-10-2006, 00:33
This is the strangest website i have ever encountered.
Ezaltia
24-10-2006, 00:36
Tough bananas.
Asgarnieu
24-10-2006, 00:39
The Asgarnian Government poses one simple question: Is it the place of another government to invade based upon one government's laws voted in by the citizens?

Thank you.
Errikland
24-10-2006, 00:43
The Asgarnian Government poses one simple question: Is it the place of another government to invade based upon one government's laws voted in by the citizens?

Thank you.

No, it is not.
Ezaltia
24-10-2006, 00:47
But the law wasn't voted in. It doesn't seem that there's ever even been an election in this country
Errikland
24-10-2006, 00:50
The Asgarnian Government poses one simple question: Is it the place of another government to invade based upon one government's laws voted in by the citizens?

Thank you.

But the law wasn't voted in. It doesn't seem that there's ever even been an election in this country

I should have been more explicit in my response. It is not their place to invade based on their laws concerning only their own citizens, regardless of how it was selected (democratically or otherwise). That is the basis of sovereignty.
Sovereign Heights
24-10-2006, 00:51
Dame Andrews’ eyes flared violently as the Empress’s chief advisor held up his hands defensively and shook his head. “I said she’s in a meeting Samantha,” began the elder Sanguine brother, “not that I disagreed with you.”

“She doesn’t go into meetings without you,” hissed back the senator.

“Contrary to popular belief,” began the always sarcastic viceroy, “there’s only one of me, love.” If looks could kill, Janus would have collapsed face first on the marble floor and convulsed with agony. “Only one of the Empress too. I have to wait. You have to wait. We all have to wait.”

An uncomfortable silence fell as the leader of the Christian Democrat Party turned back to her aide and grabbed the newspaper away from the boy. Dame Andrews’ heels clicked dangerously as she walked up to the heavy oak doors standing between her and the imperial forum. Pressing her palms on the cold brass she threw open the doors and stormed into the court as members of the imperial guard drew submachine guns on the sudden intruder.

The empress stood up startled as her favorite member of parliament completely ignored orders to stop where she was. Samantha slammed the newspaper down on the chessboard in front of the monarch and said simply, “do something about it.”

Janus, the guards, the Empress, and the eight year old grandson of Arch-Duke Pfizel all stared, dismayed at the woman as she stormed out to the sound of chess pieces rolling off the table under the news paper and clinking noisily on the ground.


Office of the Sovereign
http://img318.imageshack.us/img318/3199/sovbannerib9.jpg


To: Admiral Michael Webber, First Admiral of the Navy
From: Sir Alexander Sanguine, Grand Marshal of Imperial Forces

“Due to recent reports of genocide, slavery, and mass deportation in Britain, it has become ethically and politically impossible to sit idly by without taking any sort of action against the state.”
That’s the political bullshit. Here’s your orders:

Effective 20:30 tonight, after a broadcast radio address and official notification of the British government by the OS, you are ordered to stop and search all British commerce entering water patrolled by the Imperial navy. Ships transporting human cargo are to be ceased and their crews arrested on charges of crimes against humanity. If they’re transporting weapons, order them to dock and await closer inspection.

We probably won’t confiscate the weaponry, or arrest anyone for transporting it, but docking fees are expensive and shipping delays will put pressure on their business leaders to pressure their government to end this. Don’t do anything that would unduly antagonize the British. If anyone flees, fires on you, or attacks your marines, send them to hell.

Make it happen, Admiral.
Signed, Alex
Ezaltia
24-10-2006, 01:03
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=504255

^OOC thread
imported_ViZion
24-10-2006, 02:43
"Hmmm, some old names, some old friends and foes are getting involved in this I see." President Kelly mumbled as she looked over the report on the British situation.

"Kelly, I would suggest we stay out of this. It is not our place." said Pierre LeVoy, one of Kelly's top diplomatic aids.

"Pierre, I know, but we can't just stand by watching this unfold. Keep tabs on this. If things go down hill, we might begin forced evacuations of their civilians." Kelly stated before walking out of the room.
imported_ViZion
24-10-2006, 03:28
((*Snort* And when did sovereignty matter in this game, Errikland?

It's happening in reality, so why not here?))

*cough*OOC thread please*cough*
Asgarnieu
24-10-2006, 04:43
Asgarnieu's Government as well as the ANC Coalition requests that the nations involved in violating The State of Britan's sovereignty cease and desist immediately.

Thank you.
Ezaltia
24-10-2006, 05:09
The fleet reached Rally Point Alpha without harrassment, and waited there for Leafanistan's go-ahead. The Su-34 Strike Flankers and F/A-37 Talon fighters were readied to be launched at a moment's notice.

Transmission from The Gray House, Orielle, Ezaltia
"There is still hope for peace. Cease your actions against your people and we will depart peacefully."
Ezaltia
24-10-2006, 15:27
bumpity bump bump
Ezaltia
24-10-2006, 22:51
bump? or is anybody interested anymore?
Kahanistan
24-10-2006, 23:17
Back in Kahanistan

"Kraven battleships?" asked the President, not wanting to believe the two officers in front of him. "In Britain? So they are supporting them?"

"We don't know," said Sklenova. "We didn't exactly stick around when they popped up on our radar. They could be supporting them."

"Or they could be waiting to jump in and take over Britain in the confusion when their government falls..." said Fulton. "But then, they would be a bit more secretive..."

"Let us not make unfounded speculations," said a flat, unfamiliar male voice from behind the two female officers. "We should send someone into Arterus itself to learn their intentions."

A tall man in his mid-30's stepped out from the corner. He towered over the two women, but was himself dwarfed by President Valens, or would be if the President were standing. He was about 190 cm (6'3") tall, dressed almost entirely in black with the exception of rank insignia marking him as a Brigadier General, and a badge of Kahanistan Military Intelligence.

"Brigadier General Igor Kaselev," said the man, nodding to the other officers. "Deputy Director of Anti-Kraven Intelligence." He extended his hand toward Colonel Sklenova, who accepted it firmly. "And you are Lieutenant Colonel Nadia Sklenova," said Kaselev. It was a statement of fact, he knew who she was. He paid little attention to Fulton, possibly because he saw her every time he entered the Presidential Palace, possibly because he had little to say to her.

"First things first. We need to get information out of Arterus. I recommend we go to the briefing room for this operation."

The briefing room was on the nineteenth subfloor, behind fourteen meters of radar-absorbing, radio-jamming EMP-hardened equipment and sound-deadening materials. It would be difficult to even locate it without knowing what one was looking for, let alone bug it.

When they arrived through this ridiculous security, the President and the officers sat down.

Kaselev pulled up a huge map of Kraven-held Arterus. "This is Arterus," said the general, showing a huge map. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10782430&postcount=1) "Our agent will enter here," he pointed to the northernmost city in mainland Kraven Northern Arterus. "Then, she will capture Capitol Police armor and infiltrate the facilities there, gather intelligence, and radio it to Military Intelligence using Kraven radio equipment on site."

"How will this agent enter Arterus?" asked the President.

"She will be disguised as a slave laborer at first. She will be airdropped from an SR-71 Blackbird spy plane. She will trigger a one-kiloton nuclear device aboard the aircraft, which will detonate sixty seconds after she ejects. The aircraft will explode in the air and be completely destroyed, leaving no traces as to its origin. The plane will explode at approximately 19,000 meters, far from any civilian habitation. No one will be harmed," said Kaselev, reading the looks of shock on the women's faces.

"And this agent... I assume it will be me," said Major Fulton. "You did say a she." She had evidently hoped that Kaselev would be the one to fly, but he did say "she."

"No," said the general. "Lieutenant Colonel Sklenova has the greater flight experience." Turning toward her, he continued. "The SR-71 normally carries a crew of two, but you will have to read the instruments alone, so this will be a taxing operation. You will be very cold up there, you will be dressed as a slave worker under your heavy winter suit. You will not be in uniform or with any identification, it will be a nondescript black winter suit to keep you warm while you are in flight, you will remove and burn it immediately upon landing to keep the appearance of a slave worker."

Reading Sklenova's expression, the General paused. "I know you have minimal intelligence experience, I know I am asking a lot of you, Colonel. A more experienced spy would be more easily spotted, the Capitol Police know how to ferret out spies. This and your psychological profile make you an ideal candidate for this operation. I trust you remember your Krav Maga?"

Sklenova nodded, still in shock. Kaselev continued.

"If you come into contact with civilians, just blend in. There is a field manual aboard your plane that tells you how to associate with people there. You did have a basic language course before?"

Sklenova nodded again. "General Kaselev... can I ask you something?"

"Certainly," replied Kaselev.

Sklenova stepped up and approached him. "General... did you recommend me to be sent to Kraven during the Freekish invasion?"

"I did. Now, your plane is loaded and ready to take off as soon as you are ready."

Fulton stepped up. "I'd go with her, I have some intelligence background."

"Not a good idea, I'm afraid. You would both be spotted and sent to the facilities." Kaselev did not mention the birthing facilities as he wished to spare his officer's feelings.

The plane was ready to take off in Al-Qamar, about an hour's drive away...
Ezaltia
25-10-2006, 00:02
OOC: don't you need a space suit to fly a Blackbird?
Kahanistan
25-10-2006, 03:02
OOC: don't you need a space suit to fly a Blackbird?
OOC: No. It's a stealth plane, the flight ceiling is 24,000 meters. I would have used an Aurora, but I wasn't sure the technical specs in Wikipedia were feasible, so little is known about it.
Ezaltia
26-10-2006, 00:01
OOC: odd. I could swear I read that somewhere...

IC: Combat Air Patrols went up hourly around the task force as it waited for the go-ahead. Rear Admiral David Nesmith patrolled the bridge of his flagship, the Chimaera, restlessly as he watched a F/A-37 land on the flight deck, skidding to a halt. A Su-47 Berkut was already on the catapult to take its place as the Talon was wheeled onto an elevator.

Nesmith sighed as he poured himself a cup of coffee and sat down in a uncomfortable aluminum chair. It was aggravating, just sitting here doing absolutely nothing. He would rather be the man he was fifteen years ago, a young lieutenant running around making sure all the planes were fueled and armed. It was tiring work, sure, but at least he always had something to do.

The Styrofoam cup missed the wastebasket. The admiral walked over and dropped it inside, gazing absently at the armada splayed out around the huge carrier. Cruisers, destroyers, and even a battleship accompanied the Chimaera.
Leafanistan
26-10-2006, 00:14
OOC: No. It's a stealth plane, the flight ceiling is 24,000 meters. I would have used an Aurora, but I wasn't sure the technical specs in Wikipedia were feasible, so little is known about it.

OOC: By Soviet Standards at the time the SR-71 wasn't stealth at all.

The SR-71 was one of the first aircraft to be shaped to reduce radar signature. However, the aircraft was not stealthy and still had a fairly large radar cross-signature, and was visible on ATC radar for hundreds of miles, even when not using its transponder.

Also technically it isn't a spacesuit but a pressure suit, but damn close to one.

http://www.wvi.com/~sr71webmaster/press_suit001.html

The SR-71 is a bad choice as the person needs help removing the suit, I suggest they wear a 'simple suit' increasing risk of death and then eject carrying a bag full of new clothing.

Also, is Britian still here and will she comply with our demands?
Kahanistan
26-10-2006, 00:40
The SR-71 is a bad choice as the person needs help removing the suit, I suggest they wear a 'simple suit' increasing risk of death and then eject carrying a bag full of new clothing.
Well, it was the most advanced spy plane I could think of, that has the least chance of being detected. I would have used the Aurora, as I said, but wasn't sure that all the stuff attributed to it is feasible. Seriously, Mach 5? She can always cut her way out of the suit, nobody will see her in the middle of nowhere.
Also, is Britain still here and will she comply with our demands?
It's Kravania, what do you think? He always runs off when he's going to get pwned.
Leafanistan
26-10-2006, 00:50
Well, it was the most advanced spy plane I could think of, that has the least chance of being detected. I would have used the Aurora, as I said, but wasn't sure that all the stuff attributed to it is feasible. Seriously, Mach 5? She can always cut her way out of the suit, nobody will see her in the middle of nowhere.


The SR-71 was one of the first aircraft to be shaped to reduce radar signature. However, the aircraft was not stealthy and still had a fairly large radar cross-signature, and was visible on ATC radar for hundreds of miles, even when not using its transponder.


It's Kravania, what do you think? He always runs off when he's going to get pwned.

Personally, I think it is a Saharistan copy.
Ezaltia
26-10-2006, 04:44
Well, whoever it is, it'd be nice for him to respond.
Tenuria
26-10-2006, 04:49
Personally, I think it is a Saharistan copy.

... did you miss the memo? Saharistan = Kravania, = Torontia, = Arabanistan, = a shitload of other people, and probably this guy too (I recognise his style).
Southeastasia
26-10-2006, 10:38
Personally, I think it is a Saharistan copy.
[OOC:

......

You think it's a COPY of Saharistan Leaf? And you're one of the higher members of the Saharistan War Coalition? Incredible......I couldn't even conceive you stating that in the first place.]
United Somalia
26-10-2006, 17:20
[OOC:

......

You think it's a COPY of Saharistan Leaf? And you're one of the higher members of the Saharistan War Coalition? Incredible......I couldn't even conceive you stating that in the first place.]

OOC: Has my bad english failed me again?

Heh, logged in as my alt.
Ezaltia
27-10-2006, 06:34
If nothing's gonna happen, I'm pulling my fleet out of here.
Leafanistan
27-10-2006, 18:03
If nothing's gonna happen, I'm pulling my fleet out of here.

I've redeployed mine, this thread is dead.
The Kraven Corporation
27-10-2006, 18:38
I've redeployed mine, this thread is dead.

Same here, I've got too much going on to have fleets and forces sat around doing nothing
Ezaltia
27-10-2006, 23:30
Yeah, my fleet's out. I have other thing to do with them.