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Empire [PT, OPEN]

Voxio
20-10-2006, 05:16
The beginning year is 1870, the Scramble for Africa is on. The Franco-Prussian war is just warming up and warfare is changing. Will you amass a glorious Empire for your nation or will you face economic ruin? Will yours be a nations of benevolence and the rights of man or will it be a land of totalitarianism?

Nations taken:
Italy ~ Voxio (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11861921#post11861921)
France ~ Hok-Tu
Britain ~ Caladonn
Mexico ~ Vineyard
Spain ~ Maldorians
Pyschotika ~ Korea
Russia ~ Neo-Erusea
Argentina ~ No Taxes
Belgium ~ [NS:]Delesa
Serbia ~ Generic Empire
Ottoman Empire ~ Zelron (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11862939#post11862939)
Japan ~ Terror Incognitia (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11834150#post11834150)
Austria-Hungary ~ Moorington (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11839749&posted=1#post11839749)
Prussia/Germany ~ Gibraltarland
[NS]ICCD-Intracircumcordei ~ Brazil
United States of America ~ Beautancus
The Free Boer Republics of the Orange State and Transvaal ~ Candistan (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=504387)

Special ~ Kroando

CURRENT DATE: November 1870
Current state of the world: WAR
Time Progresses at 1 day is equal to 3 months during peacetime and 1 day = 1 month durring a major war.

Threads:
OOC/sign-up Thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=503335)
Franco-Prusian War (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11861948#post11861948)
[NS]ICCD-Intracircumcordei
20-10-2006, 07:45
The actions arising out of the Paraguayan war were still in continuance as history records. The new edicts of the Emperor of Brazil were handed down from the chain of command, almost definatnly using his moderating power over the executive.

Soon those Paraguayan not owning land in Paraguay were to be deported to the north of Brazil and interior of the forests, any resistance to the reclaimation of the territories was to be put down, as the rebellions in the north in previous years. Anyone so defiant as to disrupt the peace, and actually harm a soilder or state materials was punished capitally, their bodies and property stripped, and them turning into charqui and using their other natural qualities for use, unless catholic excluding the Guarani. Or unless a European, where by they were left of their own devices unless involved in attacks against Brazil.

So the relocations begain, those not swearing allegiance were seen as criminals and had court to determine their guilt or innocence. Those guilty were given terms of indentured servitude, to be bid on for gratuitous service, with proceeds going to the Imperial coffers, and likely the militaries hands, perhaps to pay the 50 cent bonus for each deceased so processed.

Emisaries were sent out to all the powers of the day, with a list and to compile lists of scholars and engineers, commanders, and merchants, and other capitalists to bring them to brazil as court pensioners, and partners in establishing Brazilian industries, recruiting in the southern states, in portugal and Italy were main target areas.


the decree to all indigenous colonials that free land awaited those who ventured to brazil and petitioned for it.

The aim was in part new factories, for making a variety of technologies.

1 in every 10 indentured paraguayans was to be employed in the new imperial mines and caves, a new elaborate labrynth to serve as a storehouse and other usages, as well as to assist in new stone works projects.

1 in every 10 indentured servants was to be used for fruit picking, and agroforestry projects planting numerous fruit were untertaken. The aim by Pedro was to have more tropical fruits for local use, and dried export.

Deals were also to be made with the local indians, to aquire their medacinces and to compensate them for harvesting from the forests for the Imperial government.


New teak ships for trade and other uses were to be mass produced, for cargo and other usages, with the trees cleared in the railroad and new stoneroads works projects.

recruiters were sent to bombay and canton, to see about mass importation of indentured workers. Also brazil offered to take criminal prisoners from all interested parties.

By proclamation of the Emperor of Brazil "The remainder of Paraguay not already annexed as a result of the war of the Tripple alliance is hereby annexed"

"Furthermore, each soilder serving in Paraguay, if so choosing, without violating marital vows, may take a Paraguayan woman of his choice as his wife. Upon Completion of his duty service in Paraguay, and may leave with his wife to return to his Province of residence."
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see also Imperio O Brazilia Factbook : http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11829389#post11829389
Terror Incognitia
20-10-2006, 10:05
Initial factbook is up here. Japan! (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11834150#post11834150)

Absent until Sunday pm (GMT + 1)
Pyschotika
20-10-2006, 15:25
Hey, if Korea isn't occupied by China or Japan...I'll be Korea.

It should be 'influenced' by China if anything. If either, I'll be a Loyalist to the Korean Throne Resistance if that is fine.
Voxio
20-10-2006, 16:19
Hey, if Korea isn't occupied by China or Japan...I'll be Korea.

It should be 'influenced' by China if anything. If either, I'll be a Loyalist to the Korean Throne Resistance if that is fine.

Sure thing.
Gibraltarland
21-10-2006, 01:58
The German forces of Prussia, Baden, Bavaria, and Württemberg approach the French town of Wissembourg. They are prepared to attack any French located there. If the Germans arrive before the French the town is to be taken.
Voxio
21-10-2006, 02:40
IC:
With the Unification completed and only a handful of unredeemed lands to regain it is time for the Kingdom to modernize her armies. After personally reviewing several weapons King Victor Emmanuel II has selected the Swiss Vettereli Rifle to be the next Italian rifle. It will be expensive, however, it will be just what Italy needs to move foreword. The production rights have been offered to several Italian Manufacturers.

The Bersaglieri will be the first troops to receive this weapon and in time it will be further produced for the full Italian military.



There is also the matter of Rome. The French presence has kept the Italian people from their capital. The King detested the idea of war with France, but the public was calling for the young Kingdom to take what should belong to it.

“So it will be” the king said to himself as he sat down to begin his declaration of war.

300,000 regulars have been mobilized and the Italian reserves will be called up. Of the regulars 200,000 are from the Bersaglieri corps. The quick marching Bersaglieri have been ordered to invade across the Alps and take the Italian city of Nice while the other regulars are to take Rome.
[NS]ICCD-Intracircumcordei
21-10-2006, 03:18
The Brazilian Imperial Navy dispatched a Fleet to the South Atlantic
the following Islands were targeted for total clearance, and the fleet ordered not to leave traces or clues as to what happened.

The Tristan da Cunha Archipelago, St. Helena (gough and ascension) under the flag of Britain, but ordered not to dock, but instead clear all warships in the area, and establish port and deport all occupants on the Island, and unload the garrison.
All ships there were ordered to be taken and the crews killed or taken prisoner. All fleeing ships were to be sunk and chased until sunk.
The British Flag was to be flown during the Operation and utmost force was to be used. The Garisons were only to be temporary to avoid deaths. No living man was to be left behind alive that was not from the Brazilian Fleet.

The following ships were dispatched
Constituicao, Belmonte, Beberibe, Parnahyba, Bahiana, Berenice, Dona Isabel,
Araguaia, Ivahy, Araguary, Nichtheroy, Vital De Oliveira, Trajano Tonelero
as well as canons and garrison to the island, the ships were to be packed.

The operation was to sweep in take an island leave the bulk of non essential crew, then fight the naval battles if there was resistance, return with any captured ships as skeleton crews, take the booty from the islands watching for termites rats and other pests, then make way to the next Island until the area was cleared or supplies low.

A strict order to officers in charge was to have seperate groups from different ships butcher any killed individuals or slaves, 1 ship crew kill them another butcher them, another salt them, with another drying the meat. Finally any captured prisoners or if supplies low the low ranking sailors were to be fed the salted dried meat jerkies.

Nothing was to be spared on the islands that could be taken.

All soilders on this mission were sworn to secrecy and ordered to return to Paranaguá, where they were immediately taken into custody, and asked if they would do this same type of Operation again, individually asked. If they said no they were to be transfered to a Brazillion Island Garison on Fernando de Noronha, to gaurd the operation as a National Secret. Officers who swore to secrecy were given a pay bonus and promotion, their records altered to say they were on tour off the southern coast of Brazil, and the members of their crews that were to be substituted with dead officers, and other random names. The "captured ships were to be reconstructed in secrecy with all signs of the operation hidden this done by leaving captured materials on Fernando de Noronha or keeping them in secret in Vaults to be constructed below the palace. Sheets and covereing were to be used, and cotton sacks so prepared.

If any rumour seeped of the operation, the order was to quietly dispatch the officers, also to deploy any non needed naval officers and crew.

The captured ships should they exist were to be kept in secret port with reconfigurations, and removal of anything that could be to be placed on new brazillian ships, or the masked and converted ships.

The key not letting the ships look the same, this meant removing all marks replacing anchors recarving head posts and mast post with an engraver etc.. and to do so in utmost secrecy.

Not letting anyone know what happened in full. Only the officers were to know.


The prisoneres so taken were to be taken with sacks and boxes 10 a day into the palace to work on the new underground catacomb as miners with a prison established right under the Imperial palace and the new elaborate tunnels system was to stretch under the capital, they were never to see daylight again, and the guards forbidden to talk to them, and they forbidden to speak, if they did they were to be killed on the spot, but the Emperor's personal gaurds.

The Personal gaurds and a secret police force were also to be created. Headed by those officers who could be trusted not to speak about the operations set to be conducted.


// also note that everything was to be burned to the ground that could be, including napoleons house, stone disasembled as balast etc.. of course attempting to keep the ships functionalble (I'm guessing this might be a small battle or something.. I suggest a seperate thead gets started for it, they really downsize the post after the seuz opened and my readings show they don't have much of a fleet in the area (as it is based out of south africa...) with american's doing ineffective antipiracy occassionally.. but I havn't noticed a significant garison on any of the islands.
however Charles George Edward Patey a royal navy officer appears to be govenor (and admiral) there...

the french have atleast two people there
Moutardeau, Mareschal (gaurdians of the longhouse and tomb of napoleon)

ascension island has the Flora a british store ship on duty

if successful some american goods perhaps a few broken guns etc.. boot prints, whatever is available will be left behind. (if that is posible.. so as instead of leaving no trace.. leaving trace to make it look like americans may have???)
Pyschotika
21-10-2006, 04:35
Sure thing.

Korean Empire or Korean Insurgency? :-D
Voxio
21-10-2006, 05:06
Korean Empire or Korean Insurgency? :-D
Actually Kingdom. The Korean empire began in 1897 with the Gwangmu Restoration.
Moorington
21-10-2006, 05:59
The Austria-Hungary Monarchy (and the Habsburg) do no recognize Pedro II of Brazil as the rightful king. Because of his brutal plan that far exceeds any previously seen atrocities Maximillian I is crowned Emporer of Brazil and whose capital will be based in Vienna, pending Pedro's official stepping down of.
[NS]ICCD-Intracircumcordei
21-10-2006, 06:50
^^^ what plan, that is IC secret dude.

If you insisist, on having knowledge of this plan I insist on you finding out..
it is a "secret plan"

In other news the New secret police are assigned to infiltrate the Freemasons and Clergy.

"And so you shall give secret intelligence reports through third parties. Those that enter the preist hood shall give information in confessions and those that infiltrate the freemasons shall open up shops and give information during sales in books and other documents.


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If austria hungary sends such a represenative insisting on such a plan it will be denied. If some type of evidence shows up it will be called a naval mutiny and personal vendeta of the fleet commander a conspiracy within the Imperial Navy, once if it is eventually found. Then the Emperor will put out arrest warrants for the officers involved, and they will be "executed" but not for real, instead they will be taken underground into a newly establish secret defence post in the edge of the amazon forests. *(for a little while before they are assigned as "different people" on "black operations" privateers when some of the new brazilian ships are made in a few years or so. It'll be a while
[NS]ICCD-Intracircumcordei
21-10-2006, 07:00
brazil is also now expanding recruting for the Emperor own brigade. The palace gaurd will also expand to 160 and half will be assigned to instruct fitness courses.

The Emperor of Brazil also starts a new knightly order that youth can join for schooling by a locally stationed officers (mentor program) each officer will get a pay bonus of 2$'s / month for mentoring a youth in their studies and combat arts training. The youth is to be like a "squire".


Also an education system and special post secondary education locations shall be extended to include french style grand ecole, recruiting will be open to any professional and any proffessor who is hired by the pupils will recive a bonus every term of $500. or 5$/ student, whatever is less. All papers must be publihed in the Arts and Sciences Acadamy, also established.

A brazil patents office will also be started (1 clerk unless more are needed and a 1$ fee will be required for each patent filed.
[NS]ICCD-Intracircumcordei
21-10-2006, 07:42
At the end of the first 3 months and second 3 months Brazilia will step up the deportations of the paraguayans. Land not occupied will be given to Brazilian Imperial army officers as rewards.

Also the bride service shall extend as a form of payment, where merchants dealing with the Emperor and Empire of Brazil may opt for marriage to a paraguayan woman, so that they may not be lonely without their paraguayan men, what few remain.


Also the paraguayan draftees shall be placed one for every 10 brazilians, but shall not be given a gun, but instead be a porter. atleast for the first six months of service.

Free land in paraguay for any Brazilian and if a woman orphan or widow exists they may themselves be adopted.

If there are no men in thier families then a Brazilian may ask for marriage.
If it is turned down then so be it, and the manless family shall be deported for their safety to the central forests.

If they take on their adoptive man of the house then they shall be allowed to stay.
[NS]ICCD-Intracircumcordei
21-10-2006, 08:00
The Empire is going to direct a program for building "flyboats", and "near easters" in large quantities from whatever can be created.


starting foundries and steel forges for cast steel and bessember steel


a factory system of making guns with interchangeable parts; such as a
a enfield-swift design for a firearm (to be outlined in more detail) guns with interchangeable parts; and an attempt at production of some domestic gatling guns and field guns.

free apprentiship programs for toolmakers;

call for production of cast steel slicks, adzes, timber framing tools, cast steel edge tools; drop-forged tools, Adz, broad ax, pit saw, auger, Circular saw

The building of river sawmills along the amazon river.
production of power looms and cotton threshers.

also the use of automated textile mills along the amazon river.

Small tool factories and foundries to be supported, with loans if required.

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this is all pending cash flow and initiative, but Brazilia will employ the indentured paraguayans in the north for these projects 1 in every 10. Of course it may be a while before the industry amazon river mills and flyboat merchant ship building project is starting to bear fruit.

Brazil also extends Brazilians rights to the portugeuse should they switch citizenship and sends messangers on merchant ships to the portugeuse island in the south atlantic that they may join the Empire of Brazil.
Moorington
21-10-2006, 17:17
ICCD-Intracircumcordei;11838655']^^^ what plan, that is IC secret dude.

If you insisist, on having knowledge of this plan I insist on you finding out..
it is a "secret plan"


OOC: Actually, I was talking about killing all the Paraguins (sp).

IC: Impressed by the idea of being able to commute to his "work" estate in Vienna and his "leisure" estate in the Alps, moderatly close to Innsbruck, within a day Franz Joseph enacts legislation to bring about the construction of railway track for all of Austria-Hungary. So that-

"You may see your brother in the morning at Budapest, then see your sister for lunch in Salzburg, and get home in time for dinner with your parents in Vienna."


In a more un-related manner Count Leapold still requests that Pedro I step down from the Brazilian throne and at the least stop luring away free, Catholic, men to work as slaves (from what I guess, Spain doesn't like that kind of stuff) in your backwords country.

Austria-Hungary does not like to be given the brush off, and there is enough unity at least to force such a military as yours that Europeans still dominate.



Emil Škoda in Plzeň buys Waldenstein family's weapon manufacter buisness and renames it the Skoda works.
Moorington
21-10-2006, 17:21
Got my factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11839749&posted=1#post11839749) going, like the name the best.
Voxio
21-10-2006, 19:01
ICCD-Intracircumcordei;11838655']^^^ what plan, that is IC secret dude.


You need to make it known something is a scret. Use SIC, IC and OOC in you posts.

That goes for everybody.
[NS]ICCD-Intracircumcordei
21-10-2006, 20:31
OOC: Actually, I was talking about killing all the Paraguins (sp).

OOC: ah, ok.. Pedro will hear the person or communicate on the issue.

IC: That is most unfortunate you do not agree with US upholding the laws and looking out for the devestated Paraguayans, after the paraguayan war. It is estimated that at the end of our war in the 60's that only 10% of the male population including young boys remained. Our measures are to remove the auspice of war and look out for the many orphans, widows as well as prevent extramarital affairs and rape, in the largely female population. We will not disturb Austria Hungaries representatives in the area should they exist, and although Pedro of popular rule has no intent on abdicating as of yet, we are willing to hear suggestions on how to proceed with removing the auspice of war,death and carnage from the area, as well as take suggestions, on how to proceed with rebuilding the devestated areas, and fill in the trenches.
Furthermore graciously accept Maximillians concern, and invite him to send troops to insure civility in the area. We would never violate individuals rights, and we only seek their best intrest. If Austria Hungary has a list of issues of offence by all means we invite it being sent, as we look out for the best resolution non offensive to our family in Europe.

In no way is it slavery, it is indentured servitude, and only lasting a reasonable numer of years for insurrection, breach of the general peace, rebellion and treason. How would Austria Hungary respond to an invasion of it's territories, let them win, surely your ancestors and descendants wouldn't be keen on surrender.
Moorington
21-10-2006, 21:29
You need to make it known something is a scret. Use SIC, IC and OOC in you posts.

That goes for everybody.

Agree-


Leopold messages that the Brazilian government is more confusing than the minorities that infest Hungary. From reports your government is for all intents and purposes taking the land of anyone who will not profess complete loyalty.

Why would you want to do that? Your borders were drwan up by European planners a world away and to think all of the people there even knew they were in Brazil is doubtful.

Your draconian measures are mearly a facade in which you can accuse any citizen of being disloyal and executing. Your regime has little place in the world if it continues to act like it does now.

So please, step down from your measures before you are pushed down.
[NS]ICCD-Intracircumcordei
22-10-2006, 11:55
ICB: (in character background)

Continued relocation and indenture are occuring.

All paraguayans are required to pay 1000 lbs sterling or serve five years in the military.

20,000 soilders are going to sweep into the west side of brazil and a couple feild guns.

the plan is to demand surrender of General Mariano Melgarejo Valencia

troops will sack Puerto aguirre riveralta and any other major communities. (first on that side of the river) anyone putting up resistance will be killed or taken "captive"
Brazilia will also state that the indians of bolivia will get the land that was unfairly stolden from them if they aid in the change of power.

Also any bolivian soilder or citizens who assit are guarneties land at 1km of free land in paraguay or potentially elsewhere.. or in bolivia of any that die from not surrendering.
[NS]ICCD-Intracircumcordei
22-10-2006, 12:01
From reports your government is for all intents and purposes taking the land of anyone who will not profess complete loyalty.

The paraguayans attacked us first if you don't remember and tried to take Brazilian land, this is reciprication. An eye for an eye a province for a provience.


Why would you want to do that? Your borders were drwan up by European planners a world away and to think all of the people there even knew they were in Brazil is doubtful.

Are you forgeting that all these countries here rebeled against spain - the hapsburgs... we are mearly doing what you failed to do, as stated if you will assist Brazil in pacifying the savages then assist, however they are out of control.



If you have specific suggestions, however we will institute the reasonable law and catholic civil law in our domains, if you have specific examples of injustice or otherwise bring them up, however, insurrection, rebellion, and attacks on the Brazilian Imperial Army or civilians in criminal acts will not be tolerated, and indentured service, or corpreal punishment depending on summary or indictable acts will be undertaken, under the wise jurisprudence of the Brazilian courts.
Hok-Tu
22-10-2006, 14:22
The French government had enough troubles off their own with rumblings and rumours of war from their Prussian neighbours.

The America's weren't high on their list of priorities as a result.

Never the less they were considering the Brazillians trading proposal but were certainly not going to make their criminals slaves.

an answer would be forthcoming..
[NS]ICCD-Intracircumcordei
24-10-2006, 01:49
ICB - Brazil is going to undertake a subway system in Rio De Jenario.

IC: In a telegraph to the french

"It is understandable that you would like to look out for the welfare of the french citizenry even if they are violating your principles. The purchase of indentured servants, is not "slavery in the respect of loss of freedom", indentured service is a form of community service for a prescribed period of time, either as light service work or hard labour. The British and well most countries utilize indentured service, regularly. The period of the service may be a year 2 5 etc.. after that period they are once again, "normal" to decide on their own employment.

However even if indentured service even of prussians and their allies isn't of interest for the french to sell, then perhaps we can take willing migrant workers, at the least we would be willing to ally with the french if they were to send technical advisors, weapons engineers and others. Perhaps Brazil can assist in constructing weapons and be a port of service for the French in their war against the Prussians. In this respect, it would make sense to speed your war productions, in a safe location far from the battle so that your factories would be unable to be taken over etc. Not only this if our conflict with the bolivians is resolved we will have access to large ammounts of nitrate for making explosives.

Our alliance could only benifit the french, so do consider sending your criminals here, where they wont be able to disrupt your war effort or tie up resources in policing them. After the war they can return to you.
[NS]ICCD-Intracircumcordei
24-10-2006, 05:17
Imperio O Brazilia is also going to start supporting an expanded caudillo system.
Letting local areas police themselves.. immunities of the caudillos etc.. except to court martials, seperate from the Brazilian Imperial Army
Candistan
24-10-2006, 22:14
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=504387
^^Very short factbook for the Free Boer States of Orange Free State and Traansvaal. More to be added as time progresses...
Terror Incognitia
25-10-2006, 00:12
The Emperor has sent envoys to London, Paris and Washington.
He wishes to discuss revising the treaties between Japan and these three major powers. He believes that a recognition of both Japan's rising power, and the trading opportunities to be had, will bring all three to recognise the truth in his words.
If it does not, however, there are substantial military, naval and industrial contracts to be won by any one of the three prepared to treat Japan with respect.
Hok-Tu
25-10-2006, 00:56
In Paris the Japanese envoy and his team were received with the respect they were due.

They were given suites in the palace of Versaise for the duration of their visit and it was hoped that the meetings would be profitable for both nations.
Vineyard
25-10-2006, 01:17
-Mexico City, Mexico-

Benito Pablo Juárez García, President of the Republic of Mexico, leaned on an iron railing overlooking the Presidential Garden. it had been 3 years since he restored the Republic after the French Invasion, and it was high-tide he consolidated the Republic.

He rotated his wrist and took another look at a letter addressed to himself from his top general, General José de la Cruz Porfirio Díaz Mori. General DIaz was ordered to take 4 Divisions of Regulars (40,000), 1 division of Conscripts (10,000), and 2 divisions of Calvery (20,000) to take & secure Guatemala, El Salvador, Costa Rica, Hondouras, and Nicuragua, with the exception of Belize, and bring these rebellious states back into the Mexican fold not only for the citizen's protection, but also for keeping the Imperialist powers out of America, for good. he ran a hand through his hair. The Weaposn that the Americans had supplied to them during their struggle against the French would come in handy. The president was preparing to order the standardization of the entire army's arsenal, which would quickly invalidate all weapons the Americans had given Mexico, as they were to be either incorperated into Mexican Armories everywhere (If mexico chose that particular gun model) or simply sold off.
[NS]ICCD-Intracircumcordei
25-10-2006, 06:39
Word soon reached Brazil of the Mexican's Troops movements. The new cable lines prooving remarkably useful. In a message sent to mexico.

"The Empire of Brazil applauds Mexico's bold movement and The Empire of Brazil would like to show our support for your caretaking of the Central Americas."


"Brazil puts forth strongly a joint defensive policy for the America's. Perhaps together with Argentina; Brazil, Argentina and Mexico can secure the Latin American Identity as strong and vibrant in the Western Hemisphere, and together we can secure peace and domicile from interferances."

"Perhaps representatives can meet to discus a Triparty alliance Brazil, Argentina, and Mexico, the Latin powers of the Americas."
Terror Incognitia
25-10-2006, 19:45
In Paris the Japanese envoy and his team were received with the respect they were due.

They were given suites in the palace of Versaise for the duration of their visit and it was hoped that the meetings would be profitable for both nations.

Iwakura Tomomi, leader of the expedition to France, was not impressed by Versailles. Too gaudy. However, these people were remarkably unskilled at controlling their facial features, and even in his own culture he was regarded as skilled at this. So none of this would be known to his hosts.
Their welcome had, after all, been admirable.
He had given them word of the Emperor's desires, and now merely awaited the start of negotiations. He idly wondered how his colleagues were doing.
Caladonn
25-10-2006, 23:23
The British Empire would be honored to accept a Japanese representative to London. We hope to extend mutually beneficial relations with the only modernised Asian state.

The British Empire supports Mexico's consolidation in the Americas, and hope that you continue your commitment to free trade to ensure excellent mercantile relations between our peoples. We wish to extend a hand to both of hte Latin American nations in our informal trading sphere, Mexico and Argentina, to increase our friendship.

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In the South Atlantic
A British trade cutter, the Mary of Wales caught sight of the Brazillian fleet off the coast of Brazil (I don't know what flags you have up then, please specify).

Later, when the fleet was close to the islands, another small trading vessel sighted the Brazillian fleet.


When the enemy arrived at the islands, the attack caught the rump colonies of the British South Atlantic by surprise. Signal flags flew up the flagstaffs on the coast, with the semaphores transmitting the message inland-

"Flotilla of warships sighted, bearing British flags but not on the plan for ships visiting at this time. Are requesting confirmation."
Terror Incognitia
26-10-2006, 00:33
Okubo Toshimichi, the first Japanese Ambassador to the Court of St. James (Britain), had arrived, and was hoping that negotiations over replacing the current treaty, along with bolstering Japan as an industrial power, would go well.
He was not an eager man, but if he had been he would have eagerly awaited the start of talks with the British Government.
Caladonn
26-10-2006, 00:42
Okubo Toshimichi, the first Japanese Ambassador to the Court of St. James (Britain), had arrived, and was hoping that negotiations over replacing the current treaty, along with bolstering Japan as an industrial power, would go well.
He was not an eager man, but if he had been he would have eagerly awaited the start of talks with the British Government.
Lord Salisbury, the Tory Foreign Secretary of the British Government, welcomes the Japanese ambassador to Whitehall. The Foreign Office, with its Grand Staircase and great portrait of the goddess Britannia presiding over the Empire, is ready to meet with him.
Voxio
26-10-2006, 01:47
IC: [ATTN FRANCE]

After a brief siege, the French city of Nice has returned to the hands of the Italians. It seems that in the conflict with the Prussians has lead the government of Napoleon III to underestimate the Italians. It has sent only irregular troops and border soldiers to protect from the Italians.

An occupational force has been sent to free the Bersaglieri units who are moving along countryside of southern France.

Unlike Nice Rome has not been easy to crack. Papal troops, supported by the French have barricaded themselves in the city and a long siege is expected. The Italian government has used balloons to drop propoganda urging the Roman Italians to support the monarchy

OOC:
Would the French and German players like to open a separate thread for this war?
[NS]ICCD-Intracircumcordei
26-10-2006, 02:25
Both the Mary of Wales and the other small trading vessel were to be intercepted. Before the fleet carried on it's ways. The British naval flags were flying after the fleet assembled, and as such were spoted. The ships were to be boarded, and added to the flotillas, or sunk if the ships themselves were somehow armed with naval guns.

As soon as arriving the ships were to use clear sounded channels to attack the coasts and take out any major defences with a swath from their naval guns. The interior would be dealt with after the coastal and any cannonade or other positions had been cleared by the naval guns.

(occ: this from over half a year ago)
Gibraltarland
26-10-2006, 02:42
IC: [ATTN FRANCE]

After a brief siege, the French city of Nice has returned to the hands of the Italians. It seems that in the conflict with the Prussians has lead the government of Napoleon III to underestimate the Italians. It has sent only irregular troops and border soldiers to protect from the Italians.

An occupational force has been sent to free the Bersaglieri units who are moving along countryside of southern France.

Unlike Nice Rome has not been easy to crack. Papal troops, supported by the French have barricaded themselves in the city and a long siege is expected. The Italian government has used balloons to drop propoganda urging the Roman Italians to support the monarchy

OOC:
Would the French and German players like to open a separate thread for this war?

OOC: I think that would be a good idea.
Hok-Tu
26-10-2006, 07:35
in Versaise news of the fall of Nice reached the French foreign minister Thierry Picard while he was welcoming the Japanese envoy.

As if things couldn't get worse. The Nice situation was in hand with more forces being moved south to deal with the situation.

However he still had a job to do and bowed as he greeted Tomomi san as they started the first session of talks.
Terror Incognitia
26-10-2006, 09:57
In London, Okubo Toshimichi, dressed in a Western style suit, exported from London's Savile Row, bowed to Lord Salisbury.
Speaking through a translator, he began:
"My lord, I wish to thank you for the welcome I have recieved since my arrival in Liverpool. Most especially I admired the smooth working of your 'railways'.

I have been sent by the Emperor himself, as His Majesty believes the terms on which our current treaty were negotiated are unfair, especially given our significant progress since it was signed.
He wishes a more balanced treaty, along with further trade in industrial and technological items.
Most especially the Imperial Navy wishes to learn from the Royal Navy, as it is the undisputed premier of the world's navies."

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In Versailles, Tomomi was, at last, impressed. The Westerner bowed! He returned the bow, and then began, with assistance from a translator.
"M. Picard. The Emperor has sent me to renegotiate the treaty we have signed with your proud country. He wishes to have a more balanced treaty, recognising us as a fully independent nation, not some form of colony or vassal.
Most especially all provisions placing French citizens outside Japanese jurisdiction while on Japanese soil must be removed.
Meanwhile he wishes to assure you that he bears la belle France no ill-will, and would like to re-affirm our friendship and continue trade in technology and advice to assist us in advancing ourselves.
Were there any assistance we felt we could give you in this present time, we would do so."
Hok-Tu
26-10-2006, 19:18
Thierry Picard listened carefully and replied through his translator "Tomomi san, we never seen the Land of the Rising Sun as anything other than a strong independant nation.

You have acomplised so much in a short time as well.

Regarding the first issue that decree could be lifted if the Son of Heavens government would ensure that certain rights are put in place such as the right to a fair trial and other legal standards we take for granted in France.

I am also happy to hear that your Emperor still wishes to continue the friendly relations that exist between us as well as the trading links that have been established and I hope these will continue for a long time"
Terror Incognitia
26-10-2006, 19:56
One thought, and one only, before he went back to business <Success>.

"In return for relinquishing extrajudicial status, we would be prepared to take advice on putting suitable legal safeguards in place - perhaps some of your jurists could return with us to advise us on Western standards?
That was the only real problem with the treaty as it stands."

"Now, is there any way in which we might assist in your various struggles here in Europe? Those with Prussia and Italy particularly. The Emperor is, I believe, thinking that members of the Imperial Army might be permitted to 'volunteer' to serve in France. Strictly between us, of course, but it is thought that gaining experience of fighting European armies on their home turf will advance our army significantly."
Hok-Tu
26-10-2006, 22:22
"A French Judge could return with your delegation and help set up a European style justice system and there is also a way that the other matter can be accomplished" Thierry replied.

"We have a foreign legion which some of the Japanese army could join on a volunteer basis.

This way your government also avoids getting officially entangled in a European war since its Japanese citizens fighting and not members of the army.

We are fully aware of the pressures on our borders and war between France and Prussia is inevitable.

All we can hope for is a French victory at the end of the day."
Caladonn
26-10-2006, 23:14
ICCD-Intracircumcordei;11857052']Both the Mary of Wales and the other small trading vessel were to be intercepted. Before the fleet carried on it's ways. The British naval flags were flying after the fleet assembled, and as such were spoted. The ships were to be boarded, and added to the flotillas, or sunk if the ships themselves were somehow armed with naval guns.

As soon as arriving the ships were to use clear sounded channels to attack the coasts and take out any major defences with a swath from their naval guns. The interior would be dealt with after the coastal and any cannonade or other positions had been cleared by the naval guns.

(occ: this from over half a year ago)
The Mary of Wales' Captain, John Rivers, was surprised to see a massive apparently British fleet just off the Brazillian coast. He consulted the log books, and there was no British fleet supposed to be in this area; further, something was wrong. None of these ships looked like the British Cape Town Squadron... Captain Rivers decided something fishy was going on. He didn't want anything unfortunate to happen to him or his crew; thus, only a minute or so later, he ordered the cutter to go about, and she began sailing with the wind away from the fleet.

(A pretty similar situation happened with the second ship)

OOC: Also, all things relating to the actual attack we can do after... I just wanted to clear this up first.
Terror Incognitia
27-10-2006, 01:19
"That sounds perfectly reasonable. In which case, as you are surely a very busy man, I will not take up any more of your time.
I am sure your aides can draw up a satisfactory deal based on what we have agreed.
And as the Emperor's representative, my word suffices to hold the Empire.
I am certain the first volunteers will be arriving shortly."
[NS]ICCD-Intracircumcordei
27-10-2006, 03:28
The Mary of Wales' Captain, John Rivers, was surprised to see a massive apparently British fleet just off the Brazillian coast. He consulted the log books, and there was no British fleet supposed to be in this area; further, something was wrong. None of these ships looked like the British Cape Town Squadron... Captain Rivers decided something fishy was going on. He didn't want anything unfortunate to happen to him or his crew; thus, only a minute or so later, he ordered the cutter to go about, and she began sailing with the wind away from the fleet.

(A pretty similar situation happened with the second ship)

OOC: Also, all things relating to the actual attack we can do after... I just wanted to clear this up first.

OOC: i would have chased them down, bring it to the OCC.
I have military sightings, and my ships are faster then normal trade vesels. I would have caught ya. you are putting in unreasonale foils. If you could make out the ships in detail (some of them former british or british built ships.. "I find it odd" if you insisit it just ruins the plan, and it comes off as wankery to me, not to spoil the mood. even if it wern't british ships they would still be taken. you only put them there to secure proof... and evidence for a legitimate war with brazil and it is coming off as lame.

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I can understand people suriviving the attack but putting ships there that sight me that i don't sight is bs. and the fact i have screw cruisers, should mean that i can easily overtake your cutter.
[NS]ICCD-Intracircumcordei
27-10-2006, 05:13
Brazil is stockpiling some supply stores around venezula and columbia as well as moving some forces (5 thousand) to the border area, but is not attacking either party. Also with them were moved quariers, and a few engineers, paraguayan indentured servants are being utilized to assist the building projects. Building of small storehouse forts are being implemented. Likewise a similar project is being undertaken along the road going into Urugauy, but with only a 1000 forces distributed among four posts (200, 200, 200, and 400.)

The Brazilian coastal battleship forces have started "modestly raiding any Prussian Shipping in the area, and any witnesses."

Likewise British shipping is also modestly being raided when the oppourtunity presents itself. no war is declared on either party, and reports of "pirates operating in the area are circulated.. the ships meanwhile are being sent to easter island. with supplies from captured ships in part being transfered to the battleships and supplies for the voyage to easter island, with minimal crews.

at easter island a ship refitting operation is being established. Also a "mock pirate ships" is being constructed as cover for the seizures. With a group of navy officers being sent to the island to pacifcy the remaining islanders (less than 100) either to work as labourors on the the ships or to kill them outright.
Non nation marked shipping will also be hit, including venezuelian, columbian, equadoran, chilean, But not Aregentine, or American, Or Japanese or French, or Portugeuse (or brazilian). Ships so inspected will be told the brazilian navy is looking for pirates operating in the area, as they have been hearing reports.

the navy is also now put under close scruitiny of the secret police. Insuring that "the states secrets dont slip" sailors are told they will be killed if they tell anyone what their operations are.

A secret naval base is also being built on easter island.


brazil is covering somee supply runs on the way to Japan, to transport rubber, and work out a deal for metal works.

(ooc: and you can't tell me easter island isn't one of the best pirate outfits)

after the ships are converted they will do trade in the pacific islands as ships from the azores islands and the crew claiming to be "portugeuse" with the ships coverting the stolden goods on the islands returning the supplies to easter island, when the japanese trade ships come back, then they then transport the goods from the pacific islands back to Brazil..

Meanwhile feces and urine and other natural products are being used to start growing trees and other food on the island.

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as an interior amazon river, river mills, are made they will be used for riverine boat transportation.

while river mills near the ocean will be utilized for the ocean merchant ships.

an endevour to make more metalships will be undertaken.. options are being looked into
Terror Incognitia
27-10-2006, 10:01
OOC: The whole Mary of Wales thing? Not worth a massive argument, as at most the Brazilians can buy a few weeks by chasing down vessels they spot.
By the time reports of piracy get back to Britain, you'll be getting the RN sent down there in force.
[NS]ICCD-Intracircumcordei
28-10-2006, 02:30
OOC: The whole Mary of Wales thing? Not worth a massive argument, as at most the Brazilians can buy a few weeks by chasing down vessels they spot.
By the time reports of piracy get back to Britain, you'll be getting the RN sent down there in force.

suggested that opinions on this are kept in the OOC thread. (I'd like to see how it develops, however I think that any response by the RN will be questionable for various reasons.) Also what type of fleet response, it'd be nice if it occured from "IC occurances rather than OCC knowledge, I'm not interested in arguing either just raising the pertinent facts, that it doesn't make sense there would be a merchant ship travelling the opposite tradewinds lane. and if it was being outrun for the fleet to catch up to it close enough to see the flags, then it should have been close enough for me to spot the crafts and take them, also it isn't the "normal" shipping route to the cuhna islands so I highly doubt a ship would be travelling that way as opposed to say up the continent and over around north west coast of africa.. it just doesn't make sense, and perhaps this is much like "techwanking, but it doesn't make sense that those ships would be there or 2 that they would outrun screwships in non favorable winds)
Vineyard
28-10-2006, 16:38
House to house fighting. Gotta love it.

General Diaz sat back in his saddle while peering through binoculors. The Guatamalans had tried to mount a line defence, but that attempt was quickly shattered by a cavery charge before they had gotten in formation. Since then, they had retreated to their beloved city, and Diaz had ordered 2 Divisions of Regulars to attack the city frontally, while his other regular divisions circled around each side (One going to the left, one to the right) Arrayed before him were the Irregulars of his army, the conscripts. Dressed unlike the regular soldiers, they had wide sombrerros, a bandana, ammo pouch, and of course their trusty rifles. The Mexican regulars had on the other hand a bayonnet, a rifle, a small cap with a (red) feather on the right side (To avoid friendly fire, the right side of the cap faced backwards when the troops fired to help troops behind them distinguish friend from foe), a bandolier around their waist and chest, and a rudementary grenade each. That, and they had uniforms. The irregulars just had a white shirt and khaki pants. Go them.

A rider galloped towards general Diaz from the front lines. Pulling up next to diaz, he was breathing heavily.

"Sir! *Gasp* Commander Enrique *Gasp* requests a cannonade on *gasp* That central belfry. Enemy troops are *gasp* using it as a vantage point."

"Very well. Commander Blanco!" A man to his right turned to look at him.

"I want that belfry down ASAP! Just get it done!" The man saluted and galloped towards a group of cannons with their artillarymen lounging against the cannons. Seeing their commander ride over, they quickly got up and followed his instructions.

Minutes later, the belfry tower's base shattered, bringing down the tower and a formidable number of enemy troops on it. A cry went up through the city. General Diaz looked to the rider and noded. The rider took off for the city to join the fray once more.
Moorington
28-10-2006, 19:15
Erzherzog Ferdinand Max central battery ship and the central battery ship Habsburg are both sent with 4 destroyers, support, and 2 minelayers. Transports, with 10000 Austro-Hungary troops will be escorted to Latin America to uphold Europe's dominance in the area.

Leopold assures other European powers they will get their territory back, or the Austrian combined forces will die trying.

Maximillian II has picked out his cabinent for his governmet in exile, which is formally recongnized by Austrian and Hungarian legislation.

Railroad construction is progressing but more workers are needed for the back-breaking work, deals are in the works for the Sublime state to supply Austria with the souls it needs to complete the railroad track.

Austrio-Hungary mobilizes it's Second Army for it's border with Italy. Defensive measures, of course.
Hok-Tu
28-10-2006, 19:26
"That sounds perfectly reasonable. In which case, as you are surely a very busy man, I will not take up any more of your time.
I am sure your aides can draw up a satisfactory deal based on what we have agreed.
And as the Emperor's representative, my word suffices to hold the Empire.
I am certain the first volunteers will be arriving shortly."

"Sayonara Tomomi san" Thierry replied before bowing again as the brief negotiations came to an end.

Their aides could take things from here.