NationStates Jolt Archive


Environmental and Socialist Action organization

Istaria Nova
19-10-2006, 23:27
The Environmental and Socialist Action Organization;

Mission Statement:

The Environmental and Socialist Action Organization or ESAO was formed to counterbalance the worlds growing capitalist, and anti-environmental nations. Through the use of actions that would bring to the world the attention of social conflict that is caused because of capitalism as well as the damage that is caused to the environmental because greedy corporation are not interested in the needs of protecting the environment. This organization feels that the need to use military action against U.N member and non-U.N member states with regards to these two issues as well as with regards to Marijuana is key to having a cleaner more class friendly and weed happy world.

Location: All across the world

Direct Action: Bombings, kidnappings, hijackings and the occasional shoot out with military and police officials.

Strength: 1,000 maybe more

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Training Camp, deep in Istaria Nova:

The young men dropped to the ground tired. They wore bullet proof vests and carried sub machine guns in 30+ degree heat. They all had on white t-shirts beneath the bullet proof vest, black pants and a black mask, that covered their faces except for their eyes. After having marched for the past ten miles they were dead beat. They had travelled deep into the lush green woods of this beautiful country and had crossed a large river called the Cal Tani before turning back and 'double marching' it back to this base.

This camp had barracks, nice white buildings about three stories high, there was five all together. Four housed the troops while the other was the medical center and briefing room.

There was an obstacle course as well to the far right and a guns and grenade center just about one miles down the road.

The young men drank from military issued canteens as a second squad with yellow dots in the middle of their bullet proof vests ran by. They were a second squad that were going for a briefing on explosions and explosive devices.

OOC: If you want your citizens in this terrorist organization you can post it here or in the OOC Terrorist thread as well as wanting your country be hit with a terrorist attack.
Errikland
19-10-2006, 23:38
OOC: Interesting terrorist thingy. Will watch.
The World Soviet Party
19-10-2006, 23:50
Why does everyone depict the Socialists as Terrorists?

Why dont you make Catholic Terror Cells?
Or French?

HUH?

Why isnt the Pope a goddammed terrorist?
Russkya
19-10-2006, 23:50
OOC: See what I meant? Well done so far.
Errikland
19-10-2006, 23:57
Why does everyone depict the Socialists as Terrorists?

Why dont you make Catholic Terror Cells?
Or French?

HUH?

Why isnt the Pope a goddammed terrorist?

Um, well . . . to start out, it would be kinda' against the teachings of Jesus to be a terrorist. And I think, though don't quote me on this, Jesus's teachings were kind of important to Christianity.

Also, the Socialists have the tendency to be a rather radical bunch.
The World Soviet Party
20-10-2006, 00:15
Um, well . . . to start out, it would be kinda' against the teachings of Jesus to be a terrorist. And I think, though don't quote me on this, Jesus's teachings were kind of important to Christianity.

Also, the Socialists have the tendency to be a rather radical bunch.

So? Killing is also against Jesus Teachings, yet, you had the Inquisition, countless politically-induced murders, Jew Genocide (over hundreds of years), the Holy Crusades, etc.

And there is no "bunch", those people are not socialists, at least, not really, I even if they claim so.
Istaria Nova
20-10-2006, 00:22
It is just easier to write about a socialist group, however I could have sure done capitalist or fascist. However, having a fascist terrorist group on a democratic socialist country where that country supports it covertly doesn't really make sense
Errikland
20-10-2006, 00:26
So? Killing is also against Jesus Teachings, yet, you had the Inquisition, countless politically-induced murders, Jew Genocide (over hundreds of years), the Holy Crusades, etc.

And there is no "bunch", those people are not socialists, at least, not really, I even if they claim so.

I actually have to use what you said at the end, while refuting it for your case. Those examples are *highly* un-Christian. Those who claim to do them in the name of Christ are wrong in that claim.

As for Socialists, I cannot see how they are not really socialists if they are doing terrorism. Socialism is just the government owning industry, regardless of intentions; that doesn't conflict with terrorism.
Hamilay
20-10-2006, 00:30
OOC: Looks interesting, I might be up to be attacked. Hamilay is very capitalist, and cares not for the environment. (It's reasonably clean, but that's because of nuclear power :p ) I GTG soon, but I'll be back this evening.
The World Soviet Party
20-10-2006, 00:35
I actually have to use what you said at the end, while refuting it for your case. Those examples are *highly* un-Christian. Those who claim to do them in the name of Christ are wrong in that claim.

As for Socialists, I cannot see how they are not really socialists if they are doing terrorism. Socialism is just the government owning industry, regardless of intentions; that doesn't conflict with terrorism.

Oh, maybe because the Inquisition was sponsored by the Church?

And so was the genocide.

Anyways, they are not socialists mainly because the ideas they fight for have absolutely nothing to do with Socialism, they are more like PETA.
Errikland
20-10-2006, 00:42
Oh, maybe because the Inquisition was sponsored by the Church?

And so was the genocide.

Anyways, they are not socialists mainly because the ideas they fight for have absolutely nothing to do with Socialism, they are more like PETA.

I don't understand how your first statement is a counter argument. Just because people are clergy (from the Middle Ages in this case) doesn't mean that they can't do things that are un-Christian (I am personally a huge fan of Martin Luther).

And there you finally make a good point. They are Eco-Nazis, and have yet to show other socialist platforms. Typically, Eco-Nazis do tend to be socialists, but I guess it doesn't automatically make them socialist unless they support some government controlling industry.
Sunya
20-10-2006, 23:15
Socialism doesn't have to be government based. That's just how it typically works out.

Communes are socialist. Collectives are socialist. Your credit union is socialist.

All "socialism" means is I help you out and you help me out. Sometimes we make a big honkin government to make the whole process easier. Sometimes we don't. We just don't need the whole profit motive thing to make things work.

And this whole argument with religion is rediculous. There are Christian terrorists. Remember Oklahoma City? No religion, creed, or doctrine is immune. We carry beliefs in our hearts, and as our hearts turn black, so do they.