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The IC thread is right over here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=502229). For any questions about this incident as such, about others military forces, character personalities, clarification, etc, post it all here.....if you feel it isn't neccessary to do so via TG, post it all here.

Hey um, this incident is occuring in Arterus isn't it? Jus wanted to clarify.

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Also, even though my navy only consists of 485 warships at this time, that is a peacetime number and if or when war starts the economy will change gears to put out a lot more hardware. Also in this rp I plan on introducing my monstrous future flagship super capital. I won't post too much info to spoil it here, but it is a 1746m long, quintaran ship with a main armarment of 15 electromagnetic cannons on 5 triple turrets each firing 762mm tungsten coated iron slugs with DU cores; with the sole purpose of totally knocking out a SD. It's also got a fighter wing of 190 planes :p

If you want more info than that check out the NS draftroom. The only reason why it aint done is because there hasnt been a reason to build it and I havent finished the lineart yet lol. Also the price is going to be tremendous, something like over 1.4 trillion.

Yes, it is happening in Arterus. Arterus is Kraven's mainland, so most of his stuff happens there.

Isn't Kraven still on vacation?

Isn't Kraven still on vacation?

yes

Imperial isa: oh good then, tahnks for telling me. Because if it weren't that would mean my entire communique would be inaccurate and embarrasing :p

Any how I just posted my communique to show that Im rping in this RP as well. I'm not going to go invade anyone or do anything major/disruptive till Kraven gets back.

ALso, I guess this is a no brainer, but where is SouthEast Asia? , SE Asia right? And an adendum to that question: where is Arterus relative to real world geography (i.e. oceannia, pacific, northpole, etc)

Well, in reality it would be enough land and sea to cover the world twice over, but we'll just pretend that the Pacific is extra big to fit it.

:D

Btw, Zukariaa, did you get my tg? I've really grown fond of that island and the write up isnt looking half bad.

Imperial isa: oh good then, tahnks for telling me. Because if it weren't that would mean my entire communique would be inaccurate and embarrasing :p

Any how I just posted my communique to show that Im rping in this RP as well. I'm not going to go invade anyone or do anything major/disruptive till Kraven gets back.

ALso, I guess this is a no brainer, but where is SouthEast Asia? , SE Asia right? And an adendum to that question: where is Arterus relative to real world geography (i.e. oceannia, pacific, northpole, etc)

oh thats ok

Zukariaa;11815528']Yes, it is happening in Arterus. Arterus is Kraven's mainland, so most of his stuff happens there.
Arterus is Kraven's current mainland, true, but I have absolutely no idea where it is located in the RL world (at least where it would roughly be). However, part of the reason why I chose my nation name (or rather, what I had to chose thanks to someone who beat me to it), is for people to have a quick and easy idea of where I am and what am I like IC.

Just noting my interest to this affair. I may or may not send forces in to the battle depending on how things goes.

Since Kraven wont be here for 3 more days... What do you guys think about the war:


Your prediction of total casualties
Your prediction on length of conflict
Space Time Probability of Death by Fluffle Spam (it could happen)
general thoughts

Since Kraven wont be here for 3 more days... What do you guys think about the war:


Your prediction of total casualties
Your prediction on length of conflict
Space Time Probability of Death by Fluffle Spam (it could happen)
general thoughts


Depending how serious Kraven is, the war could last 3 RL months. I expect anywhere from 100,000 to five million casualties

Anyone want to place bets on the winner?

Anyone want to place bets on the winner?

Obviously the coalition, but the real winners would be weapon's manufacturers. Which is whom I'm working for.

I'll keep this war hot.

Since Kraven wont be here for 3 more days... What do you guys think about the war:

* Your prediction of total casualties
* Your prediction on length of conflict
* Space Time Probability of Death by Fluffle Spam (it could happen)
* general thoughts

I'd say Civilian Casualties would run in excess of 20 million. Military casualties will be at most 1.2 million.

As for length of conflict, as long as possible as I can make it.

General thoughts, I hope this becomes as profitable as possible.

:D

Btw, Zukariaa, did you get my tg? I've really grown fond of that island and the write up isnt looking half bad.

Yes, I got it, not to worry. I'll be updating soon.

Arterus is Kraven's current mainland, true, but I have absolutely no idea where it is located in the RL world (at least where it would roughly be). However, part of the reason why I chose my nation name (or rather, what I had to chose thanks to someone who beat me to it), is for people to have a quick and easy idea of where I am and what am I like IC.

Like I said in this quote:

Well, in reality it would be enough land and sea to cover the world twice over, but we'll just pretend that the Pacific is extra big to fit it.

If anyone needs a full and up-to-date map of Arterus, they can go to the Lands of Arterus thread and look at the first post.

:D sweet, thanks Zukariaa. My little island is going to have one main city of about 7.5 million people. But I'll be turning it into a fortress soon enough. Luck yme Im right between Kraven and SEA...wait did I say that before?

Don't forget that you have to battle for that island. There are millions of semi-intelligent natives with crappy, primitive guns hanging out there who don't deal in diplomacy..

Main city - 7.5 million residents, totally preplanned and layed out for max efficiency. Naval Base. Amry and Airforce Base. + Reinforcements.

I think I can handle it :p Though mining camps situated in the interior desert or canyon of the island will have it rough. Settlements too. Arg, where'd I put that write up lol.

edit: did you say millions? :eek:

I have no choice but to jump into this on Southeast Asia's side. It'll be costly, but at least I can test out some new 'toys'.

Main city - 7.5 million residents, totally preplanned and layed out for max efficiency. Naval Base. Amry and Airforce Base. + Reinforcements.

I think I can handle it :p Though mining camps situated in the interior desert or canyon of the island will have it rough. Settlements too. Arg, where'd I put that write up lol.

edit: did you say millions? :eek:

I sure did. Those islands are home to something like 22 million able bodied men. They breed like rabbits, so it is no surprise.

22 million in arterus or 22 million in my claim?

Since Kraven wont be here for 3 more days... What do you guys think about the war:


Your prediction of total casualties
Your prediction on length of conflict
Space Time Probability of Death by Fluffle Spam (it could happen)
general thoughts

Given the fact that my diplomacy has borne its fruit, e.g., having quite a lot of diplomatic support, it can go into two ways - accelerate or decelerate. And also, it would depend on how good a strategist I am and a role-player and my geography. It isn't likely to devolve into fluffle spam because I know that the majority of the players that posted are respectable and fairly decent role-players. The conflict could last a few months or perhaps a few years.

I've noticed everyone bobbing about the million mark in terms of casualties, personally I can see it going into billions, after all wars with kraven rarely stay in their original theatre...

I've noticed everyone bobbing about the million mark in terms of casualties, personally I can see it going into billions, after all wars with kraven rarely stay in their original theatre...
And given the fact that NS technology tends to be even more devastating and war being fought on all four corners of the earth almost daily, I'd say that it has long ago reached quadrillions.....

That would depend however, when people consider the war with kraven over, or as some people say, the war with kraven never ended, some people would say this could be the beginning of the Second (or perhaps Third) Kraven War.

...sweetness...

SEA: I was joking about the fluffle spam

on another note, my territory is most likely going to be bombed to oblivion due to its location.

I do not have the time (OOC) or the military power (IC) to participate, as I can generally only fight one big war at a time. So therefore, just pretend I issued a statement saying that we afford moral and economic support to Southeastas... *gunshot*

*zombie resurrects* ...er, I mean Southeast Asia. Yeah.

Obviously the coalition, but the real winners would be weapon's manufacturers. Which is whom I'm working for.

I'll keep this war hot.



I'd say Civilian Casualties would run in excess of 20 million. Military casualties will be at most 1.2 million.

As for length of conflict, as long as possible as I can make it.

General thoughts, I hope this becomes as profitable as possible.

Hmm... anyone actually buying from you yet?

I do not have the time (OOC) or the military power (IC) to participate, as I can generally only fight one big war at a time. So therefore, just pretend I issued a statement saying that we afford moral and economic support to Southeastas... *gunshot*

*zombie resurrects* ...er, I mean Southeast Asia. Yeah.
An IC statement regarding that would have been better, but I can understand that Czar. Good luck against the Imperium Doomanum.

Dont suppose its to late to get in on this...?

An IC statement regarding that would have been better, but I can understand that Czar. Good luck against the Imperium Doomanum.

Thanks... although we've already planned the outcome, it results in the Czardaian Civil War. I'll explain this in more detail later.

22 million in arterus or 22 million in my claim?

In your claim.

Holy damn.... I better check the ammo locker. Them settlements are gonna have a hard time lol.

*Sells stuff to both sides for +++ profit*

I edited my post to include the actual, well... post. Sorry for the lack of detail though, but I got to write an essay about how the situation changed for the peasants during the middle ages. Ah, the joys of school!

Ok folks I'm pretty much back from my holidays, had a good time then came back to a messy breakup with my girlfriend... but enough of that...

It has however given me my serious NS groove back on, so I can assure you that this war will be a prolonged one, and not one that I will neglect, I do however ask people to avoid dogpiling me into obilivion as I still have a job to do in the real life world so I'll find it difficult to respond to 23 people all shelling different parts of my super dreadnaught.. :)

I thankyou all for being patient during my absence on holiday, so without further ado, Lets continue...

Ok folks I'm pretty much back from my holidays, had a good time then came back to a messy breakup with my girlfriend... but enough of that...

It has however given me my serious NS groove back on, so I can assure you that this war will be a prolonged one, and not one that I will neglect, I do however ask people to avoid dogpiling me into obilivion as I still have a job to do in the real life world so I'll find it difficult to respond to 23 people all shelling different parts of my super dreadnaught.. :)

I thankyou all for being patient during my absence on holiday, so without further ado, Lets continue...

good to hear you had a good holiday
and sorry to hear about the messy breakup
i hope its not that messy that you need one of those orders form the court

Bump.

Welcome Back

TKC, is the "main war thread" supposed to be closed between me and you or can other participants that have voiced support post in it? Just need some minor clarification here and there.

Wait?

I thought my forces were suppose to be supporting Kraven's assault? also, how do you plan to make it a private fight when half of the Modern and Post Modern nation's on Nationstates are sending their forces to mess each other up?

Its closed to only those who are sending forces and still commited to aiding either me or South East Asia

AMF will without a doubt be watching this very closely. Since SEA is in Damien's 'Empire of Eternity', they are entitled to Freekish defense.

I have a question, Xharn is also in your Empire of Eternity? Is that going to lead to Freekish intervention if my forces help Kraven?

Yes Xharn is, but assisting Kraven would result in Damien most definately expelling Xharn from the EoE and formally declaring them an enemy of the Freekish Empire. Appropriate military actions would then be taken.

When you say appropriate military action you mean a war of extermination?

When you say appropriate military action you mean a war of extermination?

That would likely depend on what mood Damien is in that day, and to what extent Xharn is making war against SEA.

We are sending a Cohort of Death Korps Legionaries.


500,000 Legionaries
500 Predator Heavy Battle Tanks
25 Whirlwind missile tanks
60 Chimera APC’s
14 Sentinel Walkers


1 Battle Fleet Roughly

1,000 war ships of various types.


They are all flying under the banner of the twin hammer. We have tried to cover up all evidence of Xharnian involvement.

I have sneaky but legitimate ways to figure they are Xharnian (don't want to spoil anything ;) ). But until your nation's military actually begins fighting SEA, you are still a member of the EoE.

The Union will never directly declare war on SEA. We have to many allies like Yallak and Jwolf that hate Kraven. The Grand National Unity Party is sending this Cohort to pay off their debt to Kraven.

AMF will without a doubt be watching this very closely. Since SEA is in Damien's 'Empire of Eternity', they are entitled to Freekish defense.
Erm.....in case you forget (I made an OOC note to indicate that my post to Hartman was a top-encrypted communique) AMF, my membership within the EOE was a secret IC one. Hopefully Dreadfire does know how to obfuscate things right?

Let's continue this further on AIM mate.

Crap, That means my forces are going to run right into the Sentinels without advance warning...

Crap, That means my forces are going to run right into the Sentinels without advance warning...
Jumping to conclusions, are we Xharn? Just wait and see for things to pan out.

Oh, and I will make sure my two-parter resppnse gets done, peeps!

I also have ways of finding the truth, I'm sure you remember them quite well Xharn, I look forward to getting this show on the road, Kraven when you get a moment later on come on MSN, I have an idea for this little pot of slaughter.

I also have ways of finding the truth, I'm sure you remember them quite well Xharn, I look forward to getting this show on the road, Kraven when you get a moment later on come on MSN, I have an idea for this little pot of slaughter.
But do you have my explicit OOC consent? Not quite. Only a select handful know or are going to know.....talk to me over telegrams for more details.

Good thing I have that new battleship class. >.>

Jumping to conclusions, are we Xharn? Just wait and see for things to pan out.

Oh, and I will make sure my two-parter resppnse gets done, peeps!

I figured anyone who is about to be invaded by Kraven would gladly jump at the chance for Damien and his Sentinels to beat the tar out of the Captiol Police and my Death Korps Legionnaires.



I also have ways of finding the truth, I'm sure you remember them quite well Xharn, I look forward to getting this show on the road, Kraven when you get a moment later on come on MSN, I have an idea for this little pot of slaughter.


I remember but this time of I have weapons that are designed to strike at your mobile suits and your Tokons. You may find this conflict a lot more difficult than your last battle with my forces. We now have a purely martial philosophy of fighting to the death and the Death Korps are trained to be as inhumane as Kraven’s capitol police. My forces also considered your nation as evil as the Devil. We will show absolutely no mercy against any Novan personal civilian or military.

I'm currently busy hurling myself in this bloodbath of a Blackhelm war, so I guess I'll be too busy to fight.

I have a question, Xharn is also in your Empire of Eternity? Is that going to lead to Freekish intervention if my forces help Kraven?

Yes Xharn is, but assisting Kraven would result in Damien most definately expelling Xharn from the EoE and formally declaring them an enemy of the Freekish Empire. Appropriate military actions would then be taken.

Well, this leaves us in an interesting position then. Should Xharn be expelled from the EoE and continue through with its joining of the Infinite Empire then.........well it wouldn't be pretty.

I assume I can participate still, cause I sent the observation force; but much more will probably be coming, because the Aralonian war fell through due to inactivity. Which means...my forces are free to fight people elsewhere. Like, oh, here. :)

Well, this leaves us in an interesting position then. Should Xharn be expelled from the EoE and continue through with its joining of the Infinite Empire then.........well it wouldn't be pretty.


We seem to be missing a few points here:

1. South East Asia is a secret member of the EoE that means the Xharnian government has no idea they have support from the Freekish government.

2. The Xharnian troops helping Kraven have hidden all involvement of Xharnian support. If they are captured they are to say they are Xharnian loyalists to the Kraven Corporation.

3. My Government will formally denounce the invasion and try to condemn our "traitorous brothers” for their actions in South East Asia.

Yeah I get that, i'm just seeing worst case senario here (its been a long cruddy day for me).

I am sorry to hear you are having a bad day. I was working on the post for the Past and Present thread. I sadly got distracted when the nation of Greater Morocco asked for help against Hataria. I could not resist and started supporting them with weapon and a mutual defense pact. The Hatarians have pulled out of Greater Morocco’s territory thanks to Dreadfire’s intervention along with my forces entering the conflict.


Worst Case scenario,

Dreadfire and his band of merry sentinels come knocking on Xharn's door and begin skull bashing. (A good possibility.)


Most Likely Scenario

The Patron plays the ignorance card. He condemns the invasion formally and offers them no support from home. Damien might believe it and might or might not remove us from the EoE.


Best Case scenario,

My forces are victorious against the armies of South East Asia and her allies. (Highly unlikely)

That's cool, whenever you get around to it is fine. I've been occupying my time with uni work.

Well good thing is the most likely senario fits in with the empires agenda.

By the way: Say you aren't kicked out of the EoE will you be remaining in it after joining the IE?

I may stay in the EoE it depends on how the events and circumstances go at the time.

Ok no worries. It won't overall matter. The imperial government would of course prefer you didnt but its not all that important.

I can't wait to blow stuff up. >.> Sooo many shiny toys...

Ok no worries. It won't overall matter. The imperial government would of course prefer you didnt but its not all that important.

The Xharnian government is currently interested in trying to keep it's nation secure from foreign aggressors. The reason we joined the EoE is to avoid conflict with hostile nations.

The joining of the infinite Empire is also another alliance to secure our national security. The only reason we would leave the EoE is if we had some sort of offer or deal that could persuade the leaders of Xharn that leaving would be in our best interest..

IWorst Case scenario,

Dreadfire and his band of merry sentinels come knocking on Xharn's door and begin skull bashing. (A good possibility.)

I can maybe help you, if this happens. Seeing as I’m a Gholgoth brother and I don’t war to happen near Wolfe Island. But it is really how the Count feels that day. Right now, he somewhat pissed off because of a Lord Governor in the Dominion Commonwealth.

I assume I can participate still, cause I sent the observation force; but much more will probably be coming, because the Aralonian war fell through due to inactivity. Which means...my forces are free to fight people elsewhere. Like, oh, here. :)
Feel free to. But remember I do have some limited constraints here and there.....will sort things out soon enough.

I was under the impression you were joining the Infinite Empire to complicate any renewal of agression on my behalf, and I wasn't thinking of my mainline armies finding out the truth, though weaponry designed specifically for countering them would certainly set alarm bells ringing, not that it would take much to counter a Tokon, a good sniper could propably take one down, if he's lucky, half the point behind the things is if you take down 1 there's usually about 10 breathing down your neck while you it, I was thinking of what I could get out of your prisoners, it's well known that they don't need to talk to reveal everything...

Suggestion: a list of the pro-Kraven and pro-SEA nations, with Undecided a third category, would be helpful. Also, I've read the IC thread, but I can't seem to figure out what's actually going on...who's invading who? (yes I know that's improper grammar)

Suggestion: a list of the pro-Kraven and pro-SEA nations, with Undecided a third category, would be helpful. Also, I've read the IC thread, but I can't seem to figure out what's actually going on...who's invading who? (yes I know that's improper grammar)

Iam invading SEA, all the other people are planning on sending forces to resist me in SEA, the actual War thread is somewhere else, that thread is mearly a Mobilisation thread...

As for players

Pro - Kraven

Kraven

Pro - South East Asia

Everyone Else


Lol, no seriously, I'm not sure who's supporting who, as far as I am aware, its Me, Nova Boozia and Me, Controlling some of Xharns forces.

Gotcha, thanks.

Anyone have a link to that main war?

Gotcha, thanks.

Anyone have a link to that main war?

Try the first post in this thread?

No, I know about that one, I meant the one Kraven's talking about (the "actual war thread" not the mobilization).

No, I know about that one, I meant the one Kraven's talking about (the "actual war thread" not the mobilization).
Asketh and ye shalt receive (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=504373). Be aware however that I'm STILL working on my first part of my two part tale in two posts.

I can maybe help you, if this happens. Seeing as I’m a Gholgoth brother and I don’t war to happen near Wolfe Island. But it is really how the Count feels that day. Right now, he somewhat pissed off because of a Lord Governor in the Dominion Commonwealth.


I love Jwolf, He is the best ally to have as long as you do not do anything overtly stupid or show weakness that can be easily exploited...




I was under the impression you were joining the Infinite Empire to complicate any renewal of agression on my behalf, and I wasn't thinking of my mainline armies finding out the truth, though weaponry designed specifically for countering them would certainly set alarm bells ringing, not that it would take much to counter a Tokon, a good sniper could propably take one down, if he's lucky, half the point behind the things is if you take down 1 there's usually about 10 breathing down your neck while you it, I was thinking of what I could get out of your prisoners, it's well known that they don't need to talk to reveal everything...


The main reason I was joining the Infinite Empire was to save my bacon from renewal aggression on your behalf. I think that qualifies as increasing my national security.


The problem with the Death Korps are they are mentally hardened to most methods of interrogation. Reading their minds however would be easy enough but they would have to be taken by surprise and sedated before they had a chance to blow your head off. These guys have absolutely no emotion left except the absolute compulsion to follow the glorious dictates of our Fatherland's leaders. They are selected and taken from their mothers at the age of five months and sent to special military academies all across the nation. These academies are massive training camps that practice with live fire drills and brutal conditioning and training. They also go through mental conditioning and torture resistance practice. They are latterly tortured by trained NCIA agents and questioned for top secret information. Those that survive to reach the age of fifteen become Death Korps Legionnaires.


Iam invading SEA, all the other people are planning on sending forces to resist me in SEA, the actual War thread is somewhere else, that thread is mearly a Mobilisation thread...

As for players

Pro - Kraven

Kraven

Pro - South East Asia

Everyone Else


Lol, no seriously, I'm not sure who's supporting who, as far as I am aware, its Me, Nova Boozia and Me, Controlling some of Xharns forces.


Scratch that good buddy, I will be leading the Glorious forces of the Fatherland against the heathens of South East Asia. I have managed to get my sister to let me use her computer for short periods of time.

OOC: Oh, Southeast Asia, you flatter me...:D
[OOC: Then please do keep aware of the fact that it is a Secret IC encrypted transmission, Kregaia. And I frown on meta-gaming.]

So I'll try my hand at updating the player list:

Pro - Kraven

Kraven

Leafanistan

Xharn


Pro - South East Asia

SEA.

Me.

Allanea.

Pacilitia.

Hamptonianshire.

Isselmere.

Kahanistan.

I might have missed a few, but I'm off to watch horror movies. I'll see if I can update later.

[OOC: Then please do keep aware of the fact that it is a Secret IC encrypted transmission, Kregaia. And I frown on meta-gaming.]

My apologies. I was just observing OOC something that you'd written in Secret IC to someone else. Don't worry, I know I can't read it IC, and it won't affect my actions in the thread; the IC action that came along with that comment was totally unrelated. Again, apologies.

OOC: Just letting people know that I haven't forgotten about the threads, I'm just waiting for SEA to post the second parter before I post again,

My part in this conflict: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=505616

OOC: For OOC reasons, my nationstate, Leafanistan, has to drop out of the conflict. However, my Mafia will assist via this:

2nd Slave Army:
3 Divisions of Mechanized Infantry
Per Division breakdown
-250 HT-101-100 Medium Tanks (100mm Main Gun)
-50 HT-101-106 Ontos Tank Destroyer (6 105mm Recoilless Rifles)
-250 HT-101 Vanquish IFVs (.50 cal)
-500 Battle Bus IFVs (105mm Recoilless Rifle)
-75 HT-101-122R Multiple Rocket Launcher (122mm Rockets)
-75 M50 155mm SP guns (155mm, .30 cal MG)
-75 D-30 122mm Guns
-75 Mi-28 Havok Attack Helicopters
-75 Mi-8 Hip Transport Helicopters
-500 105mm Recoilless Rifle Technicals (105mm Recoilless Rifle)
-1500 Machine Gun Technicals (12.7mm MG)
-3000 Toyota Dyna 1 ton trucks
-20,000 Slave Soldiers (1 AR-550, 1 R-38, 1 Combat Knife)

They will move with the fleet.

12 Rajput-class Destroyers
20 Krivak-class Frigates
20 Song-class Submarines
120 Transport Ships

And these are joining with the Kraven Fleet in Artreus.

I started watching this war when it started, and continued until about page three...

Then I got distracted and now it's far too many pages for me to have time to wade through.

Anyway, I'd like to know if any of you would object to mine joining this thread. I ask because I don't know how many people are involved, and I don't want to overcrowd the thread as a whole, or turn one side into a dog-pile.

I don't know which side I would want to get involved for, though. For awhile my government has looked with a suspicious sideways-type look at Kraven, but we feel more threatened sometimes by the more idealistic "defender" democracies and similar governments.

Anyhow, I'm asking for a basic idea of what's going down...

Leafanistan....understandable, the real world always has to take precedence over NS. Hope that if they can be resolved quickly, you'll put your forces into the fray.

Emporer Pudu.....I've been busy myself a bit, and am confused myself as well. You can pick a side that is either for my defense or for Kraven aggression. Feel free to. I just want to enjoy a good role-play. The mobilization thread shall be wrapped up the moment I get the second part of my own two parter tale done up.

As one group of militant trans-human autocrats to another, the Undershis of course have a fondness for the Kravenites... they'll be sending the following:

- Carrier Group NietzscheII (one Fleet Carrier, four cruisers, four missile cruisers, twenty destroyers and a full supply and logistics train)

- The 122nd IIS Storm Trooper Division - this unit is built around the survivors of the Battle of Gomez Valley, and is largely made up of combat veterans who have been reassigned from other IIS units. This will, however, be its first actual deployment as a single unit.

- The 117th Regular Army Armoured Division - This unit consists of a bunch of Drake MBTs and Viper IFVs (obviously). Mostly its armour, but with some mechanized infantry thrown in to support the tanks.

That's it for the Undershi Empire... for now.

War, can you be a little less obtuse with your post? I know its for Kahanistan, but where is your attack force? We need to clarify stuff and organize game time properly people.

I understand more fully now the distrobution of forces, and have decided to make my government decide to intervene as Pro-Kraven...

I'll probably post my 'I'm here now' bit later tonight, but to do anything that has to do with anything, I'd have to know some stuff;

1) Where is your nation? I mean, I take it it's in SE Asia, but where exactly.

2) Well... that's probably it, but nobody likes a one-topic list. I can figure out myself where Kraven and his ilk landed, and then help them...

3) I remembered a three! Which thread do you want my stuff thrown in, I heard someone say earlier that the "Mobilization" thread is not the whole war thread, and so I am now without a recepticle for the majority of my posts...

Thanks.

No problem. I'll have fleet/army numbers and composition up ASAP (bearing in mind I'll be away all day Sunday and Monday). As for timing...I really don't know. There hasn't been much if any military action to compare it to; all I know is Kahanistan has a fleet near your coast. Don't know where, how big it is, what kind of ships making it up, your own coastal defenses...etc. As for where MINE is, I'm an island continent off the main CAD landmass; my fleet just left port from Korronis, basically in the middle of Kregaia's southern coast. Words aren't of much help, I know, but my map got deleted by imagecave some time ago and I haven't had time to replace it...I'll see what I can do about that.

And here's (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=507280) another front between me and Blackhelm, albeit one that won't take too long (I hope >.>). And yes, I know the thread title is spelled wrong. :p

Izistan: Well, you could've talked that up between myself, Kraven and Blackhelm via MSN (at least for me and Kraven, dunno about BC), but regardless, we do need organization on game time and when each deployment has arrived. We really need clarification, as I'm getting a bit stressed here and all.

Emporer Pudu: Yeah, sure, go ahead on that faction. As for your questions: 1), Yes, my nation is found in what would be the RL geographical subregion of Asia, Southeast Asia. It contains all of the RL nations found in SEA, but there are differences from my version and the real version as there are similarities, 2), I know, I do need to work on a map.... 3), yes, the mobilization shall not be the only war thread. There will be a whole series of them thanks to the fact that many are galvanized by the Kraven Corporation ICly and many ICly have favorable impressions of the Union of Southeast Asian Nations/United Sovereign Nations of Southeast Asia (both being my two official long formal titles). Pick whichever thread you desire.

The Warmaster/Kregaia: Roger that. The enemy forces that are arriving to my country are assumed to have arrived later than my allies for the most part anyway, and you'll probably be meeting the Kahanistan Republic Navy and the Vuhifellian Information Corps as one flotilla and with peeled eyes for belligerents. I know I need to work on a map myself, or at least get somebody to draw it for me.

Link: (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11790792&postcount=37) - The Kahanistanian deployment, I don't know much about the Vuhifellian strength, though.

Here you go.

NAVAL FORCES
Commander: High Admiral Ludo Anor

7 Apophis-class superdreadnaughts
13 Invictus-class supercarriers (250 aircraft; 180 F/A-104 Balefires, 36 MiG-45s, 24 AH-166 gunships, 5 Behemoth heavy bombers, 5 Thunderbird AWACS)
44 Imperator-class battleships
54 Prophet-class aircraft carriers (160 aircraft; 120 F/A-104 Balefires, 24 MiG-45s, 16 AH-166 gunships)
464 Silencer-class missile submarines
412 Stalker-class attack submarines
538 Attila-class cruisers
595 Assassin-class missile cruisers
593 Darius-class destroyers
614 Piranha-class frigates
1,140 Atlantis-class troop transports
102 Caduceus-class hospital ships
630 Arsenal-class supply ships
310 Vulcan-class repair ships

Total: 4,918 vessels; 2,453 surface warships, 876 submarines, 2,182 support ships

GROUND FORCES
Commander: High Lord Ishamael Sadow

4,200,000 Legionaries
24,000 Immortals
9,600 War-Priests
1,200 light guns (105mm)
1,050 medium guns (155mm)
850 heavy guns (188mm)
65 Colossus howitzers (460mm)
850 AA guns (155mm flak)
1,200 SAM batteries
5,800 T-120 Ravagers
5,800 M146 Despoilers
12,600 Sidewinder LAVs
7,200 F/A-104 Balefires
3,200 A-10 Thunderbolts
840 Behemoth heavy bombers
24 B-6 Paladin stealth bombers
840 MI-24 Hinds
840 AH-166 Twilight gunships
4,800 Lawgiver VTOL transports
1,240 C-7 Generia transport planes
72 Thunderbird AWACS planes
1,720,000 associated personnel (medics, cooks, drivers, pilots, servants, techs, engineers, etc.)
Associated transport trucks
Construction materials/equipment, and prefabricated buildings

Kahanistan, I took a look at your force near SEA, and it’s much smaller than this. To keep it interesting, would you prefer if I shrunk the numbers or didn’t engage you with the entire fleet? Or you could just send reinforcements...whatever works.

Izistan: Well, you could've talked that up between myself, Kraven and Blackhelm via MSN (at least for me and Kraven, dunno about BC), but regardless, we do need organization on game time and when each deployment has arrived. We really need clarification, as I'm getting a bit stressed here and all.


Uh, I was careful to check it with Blackhelm (he was okay with it). What exactly do you mean by "game time"?

I figure a few days of NS time before my fleet arrives. So Kahanistan and Vuhifell will have plenty of time to see me coming, and possibly enough time to get assistance from the rest of their navies.

Uh, I was careful to check it with Blackhelm (he was okay with it). What exactly do you mean by "game time"?
Fluid time I mean. Though you could've told me beforehand as well and TKC.....

Oh, just as a note guys.....I have absolutely no problem whatsoever if you role-play your deployments, but the idea of my two parter post was so that it was for TKC to wrap it all up and then we can get on the war. You guys should've posted your ORBATs in the OOC thread right here, but meh.

Oh, and Groznyj, it's Prime Minister Neo, not President Neo. Just a handy nitpick.

OOC: Appologies.

Undershi OBAT:

- 122nd Storm Trooper Division under Colonel Abdul Thompson:
- 1st Company: Command and Communications (IIS Colonel Abdul Thompson present in this unit) - 25 Viper IFVs, 250 men
- 2nd Company: Logistics - 15 Viper IFVs, 100 Ox Hauler trucks, 250 men
- 3rd Company: Fighting Company - 15 Viper IFVs, 25 Drake MBTs, 250 men
- 4th Company: Fighting Company - 15 Viper IFVs, 25 Drake MBTs, 250 men
- 5th Company: Fighting Company - 15 Viper IFVs, 25 Drake MBTs, 250 men
- 6th Company: Fighting Company - 15 Viper IFVs, 25 Drake MBTs, 250 men
- 7th Company: Fighting Company - 15 Viper IFVs, 25 Drake MBTs, 250 men
- 8th Company: Fighting Company - 15 Viper IFVs, 25 Drake MBTs, 250 men
- 9th Company: Fighting Company - 15 Viper IFVs, 25 Drake MBTs, 250 men
- 10th Company: Fighting Company - 15 Viper IFVs, 25 Drake MBTs, 250 men
- 11th Company: Fighting Company - 15 Viper IFVs, 25 Drake MBTs, 250 men
- 12th Company: Fighting Company - 15 Viper IFVs, 25 Drake MBTs, 250 men
- 13th Company: Fighting Company - 15 Viper IFVs, 25 Drake MBTs, 250 men
- 14th Company: Fighting Company - 15 Viper IFVs, 25 Drake MBTs, 250 men
- 15th Company: Fighting Company - 15 Viper IFVs, 25 Drake MBTs, 250 men
- 16th Company: Fighting Company - 15 Viper IFVs, 25 Drake MBTs, 250 men
- 17th Company: Fighting Company - 15 Viper IFVs, 25 Drake MBTs, 250 men
- 18th Company: Fighting Company - 15 Viper IFVs, 25 Drake MBTs, 250 men
- 19th Company: Fighting Company - 15 Viper IFVs, 25 Drake MBTs, 250 men
- 20th Company: Fighting Company - 15 Viper IFVs, 25 Drake MBTs, 250 men
- 21st Company: Engineering Section - 10 Viper IFVs, 50 Ox Hauler trucks, 250 men
- 22nd Company: Support Company: 10 Viper IFVs, 25 Drake MBTs, 15 Anaconda Self-Propelled Guns, 250 men
- 23rd Company: Support Company: 10 Viper IFVs, 25 Drake MBTs, 15 Anaconda Self-Propelled Guns, 250 men
- 24th Company: Support Company: 10 Viper IFVs, 25 Drake MBTs, 15 Anaconda Self-Propelled Guns, 250 men
- 25th Company: Artillery Company: 50 Ox Hauler trucks, 50 Python Towed Field Guns, 250 men
- 26th Company: Fighting Company - 15 Viper IFVs, 25 Drake MBTs, 250 men
- 27th Company: Fighting Company - 15 Viper IFVs, 25 Drake MBTs, 250 men
- 28th Company: Fighting Company - 15 Viper IFVs, 25 Drake MBTs, 250 men
- 29th Company: Fighting Company - 15 Viper IFVs, 25 Drake MBTs, 250 men
- 30th Company: Fighting Company - 15 Viper IFVs, 25 Drake MBTs, 250 men
- 31st Company: Artillery Company: 20 Ox Hauler Trucks, 15 Anaconda SPGs, 25 Gryphon MLRS, 250 men
- 32nd Company: Heavy Company: 60 Drake MBTs, 1 Command Variant Viper IFV, 250 men
- 33rd Company: Heavy Company: 60 Drake MBTs, 1 Command Variant Viper IFV, 250 men
- 34th Company: Heavy Company: 60 Drake MBTs, 1 Command Variant Viper IFV, 250 men
- 35th Company: Fighting Company - 15 Viper IFVs, 25 Drake MBTs, 250 men
- 36th Company: Fighting Company - 15 Viper IFVs, 25 Drake MBTs, 250 men
- 37th Company: Fighting Company - 15 Viper IFVs, 25 Drake MBTs, 250 men
- 38th Company: Fighting Company - 15 Viper IFVs, 25 Drake MBTs, 250 men
- 39th Company: Fighting Company - 15 Viper IFVs, 25 Drake MBTs, 250 men
- 40th Company: Special Operations Section: 250 IIS Storm Troopers

- 97th Armoured Division:

- 1st Company: 1 Command Variant Drake MBT, 49 Drake MBTs (Colonel Aleksander Westinghaus present in this company), 200 men
- 2nd Company: 1 Command Variant Drake MBT, 49 Drake MBTs, 200 men
- 3rd Company: Logistics: 100 Ox Hauler Trucks, 250 men
- 4th Company: Infantry Support: 20 Viper IFVs, 240 men
- 5th Company: Infantry Support: 20 Viper IFVs, 240 men
- 6th Company: 1 Command Variant Drake MBT, 49 Drake MBTs, 200 men
- 7th Company: 1 Command Variant Drake MBT, 49 Drake MBTs, 200 men
- 8th Company: 1 Command Variant Drake MBT, 49 Drake MBTs, 200 men
- 9th Company: 1 Command Variant Drake MBT, 49 Drake MBTs, 200 men
- 10th Company: Engineering Section: 10 Viper IFVs, 50 Ox Hauler trucks, 250 men
- 11th Company: 1 Command Variant Drake MBT, 49 Drake MBTs, 200 men
- 12th Company: 1 Command Variant Drake MBT, 49 Drake MBTs, 200 men
- 13th Company: 1 Command Variant Drake MBT, 49 Drake MBTs, 200 men
- 14th Company: 1 Command Variant Drake MBT, 49 Drake MBTs, 200 men
- 15th Company: 1 Command Variant Drake MBT, 49 Drake MBTs, 200 men
- 16th Company: Support: 25 Anaconda SPGs, 15 Ox Hauler trucks, 15 Python Towed Field Guns
- 17th Company: 1 Command Variant Drake MBT, 49 Drake MBTs, 200 men
- 18th Company: Support: 25 Anaconda SPGs, 15 Ox Hauler trucks, 15 Python Towed Field Guns, 250 men
- 19th Company: 30 Gryphon MLRS, 15 Hipogryph AA-MLRS, 250 men
- 20th Company: 1 Command Variant Drake MBT, 49 Drake MBTs, 200 men

I hope this clears things up.

Oh, just as a note guys.....I have absolutely no problem whatsoever if you role-play your deployments, but the idea of my two parter post was so that it was for TKC to wrap it all up and then we can get on the war. You guys should've posted your ORBATs in the OOC thread right here, but meh.

Oh.

hmm...

A heavy rain fell on the Undershi soldiers as they loaded themselves onto the transports. Rain struck the chobham armour of Viper IFVs, and made a dull noise, like static in the background. Soldier in IIS black waited for their turn to board, their rain coats pulled tightly around their bodies. They shivered, sad excuses for super-men, as the rain soaked through their high collared startched uniforms.
A few of them wore full power armour, rather than the uncomfortable dress uniforms that most of them shivered in - those were the sergeants and the officers, the survivors from the original 122nd IIS Storm Trooper division and its heroic doomed charge against the Soviet lines...
The new men were veterans, one and all. They had faced the guns before, in one or another of the little wars that marked Undershi expansion... but they were still all but in awe of the survivors, those brave heroes who had bought time for the Blackhelm army to rally and attack...
Drake MBTs began to roll onto the transports, as norm workers, sweating and shirtless, loaded crates of weapons, supplies and power armour onto the transports, True Undershi overseers watching with ready whips in case they dared to slack off in their service to the state that owned them.
Soon the fleet would be prepared, soon they would set off for Southeastasia... soon they would prove themselves the equals of those martyrs of the Undershi cause who had died when the last 122nd IIS Storm Trooper division had made its stand amidst the wreakage of their tanks and those of their enemy, using the dead for cover... soon another overly proud nation of norms would be taught its proper place. The Kravenites were almost Undershi in their distain for normal, unaltered, unimproved, humans. That made them worthwhile allies - such people the Undershis could understand, could deal with.
A norm worker, sweating and panting, barely human as he laboured under the lash, was to these waiting True Undershis a sign that all was right in the world - they would have found any other state of affairs odd to say the least.
Sigh. Perhaps you misunderstood me Undershi. I wanted you to post your ORBAT here not an IC post. I demand that you change this post to a proper ORBAT.

Oh, and it's "Southeast Asia", not "Southeastasia!"

Here you go.

NAVAL FORCES
Commander: High Admiral Ludo Anor

7 Apophis-class superdreadnaughts
13 Invictus-class supercarriers (250 aircraft; 180 F/A-104 Balefires, 36 MiG-45s, 24 AH-166 gunships, 5 Behemoth heavy bombers, 5 Thunderbird AWACS)
44 Imperator-class battleships
54 Prophet-class aircraft carriers (160 aircraft; 120 F/A-104 Balefires, 24 MiG-45s, 16 AH-166 gunships)
464 Silencer-class missile submarines
412 Stalker-class attack submarines
538 Attila-class cruisers
595 Assassin-class missile cruisers
593 Darius-class destroyers
614 Piranha-class frigates
1,140 Atlantis-class troop transports
102 Caduceus-class hospital ships
630 Arsenal-class supply ships
310 Vulcan-class repair ships

Total: 4,918 vessels; 2,453 surface warships, 876 submarines, 2,182 support ships

GROUND FORCES
Commander: High Lord Ishamael Sadow

4,200,000 Legionaries
24,000 Immortals
9,600 War-Priests
1,200 light guns (105mm)
1,050 medium guns (155mm)
850 heavy guns (188mm)
65 Colossus howitzers (460mm)
850 AA guns (155mm flak)
1,200 SAM batteries
5,800 T-120 Ravagers
5,800 M146 Despoilers
12,600 Sidewinder LAVs
7,200 F/A-104 Balefires
3,200 A-10 Thunderbolts
840 Behemoth heavy bombers
24 B-6 Paladin stealth bombers
840 MI-24 Hinds
840 AH-166 Twilight gunships
4,800 Lawgiver VTOL transports
1,240 C-7 Generia transport planes
72 Thunderbird AWACS planes
1,720,000 associated personnel (medics, cooks, drivers, pilots, servants, techs, engineers, etc.)
Associated transport trucks
Construction materials/equipment, and prefabricated buildings

Kahanistan, I took a look at your force near SEA, and it’s much smaller than this. To keep it interesting, would you prefer if I shrunk the numbers or didn’t engage you with the entire fleet? Or you could just send reinforcements...whatever works.

Well, it wouldn't be the first time I lost to a CAD fleet, more like the third. (I once fought Doomingsland in ViZion, and MassPwnage at my own shores.) I would have suggested letting the Royal Sovereigns take the first shot, and let about 16,000 Tomahawks at your fleet, but I already had my Fleet Admiral order his commanders to let the Kregaians take the first shot, so if they turn out to be attacking Kraven the Republic Navy doesn't get into an unnecessary fight, so if you want a fight you WILL have to take the first shot at me.

I won't be able to send reinforcements; with Kraven banging at my door, I can barely spare the forces I have in the Southeast Asian theater. You could shrink the numbers or attack me with your full strength, up to you. I have, however, improved my ability to fight since the Pwnage conflict and have better ships, more experienced commanders, and even some decent domestic designs.

Mac, can I still say I revieved plans for the Chariot and have some, or would yo not be a fan of that?

Mac, can I still say I revieved plans for the Chariot and have some, or would yo not be a fan of that?

Well, if this is during the end of the War of Golden Succession, or after, you would already have plans to the tank. I don't mind.

Hmm...well, it's not really in character for Kregaians to not use overwhelming force where necessary...on the other hand, even assuming they do sweep through your/Vuhifell's ships, they'll have a lot more on their hands no matter what they target next. So full steam ahead, I guess. I'll have an IC post up soon.

Err guys, the mobilization thread is over. The war is soon to be on. As soon as I get time to work on my post in the conflict thread.

srry I was late to post in the mobilization trhead I had some thigns tying me up but Im good n dandy now. SEA can you tg me the link to the other thread?

Hey, got approved by SEA, but wasn't in time to post in the mobilization thread, I was wondering where I'm supposed to post now.

depending on SEA's reply I'll post a lost post in the mobilization thread detailing movement of my navy and marines into the area to defend my island and help SEA

No offense intended, but guys, do you have a degree of patience? I said earlier on that TKC and myself intended my post and his own to be the wrapping up of it. No more posts in that thread whatsoever, at all. The thread shall be wrapped up by my single OOC post once I get the time as I'm heavily stressed at the moment.

SEA, I heard you need a map. I'm willing to draw you one. Furthermore, I have something important to talk to you about when you have the time. Any idea what time you will be on, GMT?

SEA, I heard you need a map. I'm willing to draw you one. Furthermore, I have something important to talk to you about when you have the time. Any idea what time you will be on, GMT?
I'm in Hong Kong, so I'm on GMT + 8. I wouldn't mind you to do one for me. And preferably we could discuss this over AIM.

Undershi and Emperor Nero, next time, search for an OOC thread first. Do you two even understand what is IC and OOC? If not, then I apologize for my utter frankness, you shouldn't be role-playing in this thread.

SEA, I don't see you on AIM, but I hear you already know the topic I want to talk to you about. If so, I need to talk to you urgently. I'll be on today for a little while longer, and tomorrow morning at ~10AM PT (so 16 hours ahead of you).

SEA, I don't see you on AIM, but I hear you already know the topic I want to talk to you about. If so, I need to talk to you urgently. I'll be on today for a little while longer, and tomorrow morning at ~10AM PT (so 16 hours ahead of you).
That would be because I'm at school. Gotta go now, TTYL.

Sorry about the IC post. I've changed it to an accurate OBAT now... although it's only for my land forces - I'm also sending a Carrier Group to assist with the invasion.

ahh.. an ORBAT (BORAT =P) havent done one of these in a while.. like ever...

-Yeltsmin Militia (city guard): 1,240 regulars; small arms only.

-Fort Yeltsmin Detatchment: 6th Marine Infantry Division

17,430 Soldiers

-Reinforcemetns from Groznyj: 12th Marine Infantry division

16,324 Soldiers

Groznian Republic Navy:

TaskForce 1: (Blue Water Ops)
CVNs
16 Nimitz Class
12 Charles De Gaulle Class
BBNs
12 Montana Class
8 Iowa Class
DDNs
56 Aleigh Burke Class
13 Dragon Class (DMG)
CGNs
30 Ticonderoga Class
Subs:
22 Seawolf Class
20 Virginia CLass


TaskForce 2: (Direct Island Defense)
CVNs
29 Invinsible Class
BBNs
13 Iowa Class
Destroyers:
41 Casard Class
Cruisers:
46 Ticonderoga Class
Assault:
42 Wasp Class
19 Ocean Class
Subs:
30 SeaWolf Class
-Boomers: 33 Ohio Class

Basically Im throwing my entire navy in to defend my islands. They'll be spilt up into 2 groups, the first will operate out at sea and will try to avoid a direct confrontation with the Kraven Fleet. They will supply most of the fighter cover for the islands and have subs on S&D missions.

The second task force is charged with defending the island from the attack. (me n Kraven planned this out a little) They will operate as a shield for the city; 1 detatchment to go out and fight the Kraven fleet, battleships intentionally beached in the harbor-that kind of thing. A number of them (the assault ships) will stay behind to ferry troops/evacuees accross to the larger island if the city is overrun.--Basically TF2 is on a suicide mission for the most part.

Yes that is my whole navy at the moment but as the war continues Groznyj will be churning out ships in droves as the need increases.


(damned jolt scared me inot thinking my post get eaten when I saw a database error....)

Skyian Order of Battle:

Navy:
Split into two Armadas, the 1st under Admiral Sutherland, and the 2nd under Admiral Rogers.

2x 'Kraken'-Class Trimaran Siege Dreadnought (SDN)
12x 'Hyperion'-Class Trimaran Assualt Dreadnought (ADN)
24x 'Majestic'-Class Trimaran Hyper Carrier (CVAN)
40x Ravager-Class Trimaran Dreadnought (DN)
40x 'Invulnerable'-Class Trimaran Fleet Carrier (CVN)
288x 'Spiritus Dei'-Class Trimaran Heavy Cruiser (CAN)
288x 'Shalrirorchia'-Class Trimaran Guided Missile Cruiser (CGN)
336x 'Comberth'-Class Trimaran Heavy Destroyer (DAN)
336x 'Union'-Class Trimaran Guided Missile Destroyer (DGN)
288x 'Swordfish'-Class Trimaran Guided Missile Frigate (FG)
288x 'Dolphin'-Class Trimaran ASW Frigates (FASW)
240x 'Poseidon'-Class Heavy Attack Submarine (SSAN)
2,184x Total Combat Ships

8x Pasteur-class hospital ships (HS)
32x Curie-Class Light Medical Ships (MSL)
80x Endeavour-class Large Combat Transport Ship (CTSA)
80x General Marsden-class AP
80x Gabin-class roll-on/roll-off cargo vessels (RO/RO CV)
80x Quay-class amphibious assault and replenishment vessels (LHR)
80x Smith-class fuel and munitions transport vessels (FATV)
40x Aylesburgh-class submarine tender (ST)
120x Flansburgh-class fleet replenishment vessel (FRV)
40x Peligro-class amphibious assault ship (AAS)
640x Total Logistical Ships

Naval Air Arm
Split evenly between the two armadas.

11,616x F-8B
2,880x F-7N1
1,152x F-5B
2,880x FB-177As
2,544x SAH-33s
4,208x SH-4
160x EV-22C
160x Tankers
4,728x JX-32
30,328x Total Aerial Assets

Army
1st, 2nd, and 3rd Theater Forces, forces divided evenly.

1,242,000 Infantry Men (6 Men Squads, IFV and AP/LT mounted or heliborne)
60,000 M160A2 MBT (4 Men Crew)
60,000 M260A1 IFV (3 Men Crew)
60,000 M260A2 IFV (3 Men Crew)
51,000 LV-08 AP/LT (3 Men Crew)
12,000 SAH-33 (2 Men Crew)
3,000 UH-90 (3 Men Crew)
3,000 CH-100 (3 Men Crew)
15,000 M110 155mm Field Gun (2 Men Crew)
15,000 M130 MLRS (18x 155mm or 8x 355mm; 2 Men Crew)
9,000 M150 203mm Howitzer (3 Men Crew)
21,000 M115 Artillery Support Vehicles (Carries arty rounds and each company as two counterbattery radars)
6000x Armoured Vehicle Launched Bridge (2 Men Crew)
9000x Combat Engineer Vehicle (4 Men Crew)
6000x Armoured Repair/Recovery Vehicle (3 Men Crew)
48,000x M2A0 Armored Medical Evacuation Vehicle AMEV (2 Men Crew)
24,000x M1070/1000 Heavy Equipment Transporter System (2 Men Crew)
48,000x M1074/1075 Palletized Load System (2 Men Crew)
48,000x M1120 HEMTT (2 Men Crew)
15,000x M360 "Aegis" Air Defence Vehicle (4 Men Crew)
3,000x M601 "Zeus" TELAR (4 Men Crew)
6,000x M602 "Hornet" TELAR (4 Men Crew)
12,000x M603 "Wasp" TELAR (4 Men Crew)

Air Force
1st and 2nd Tactical Air Commands.

Air Superiority Fighter Group (9216 F/A-6D) Personal: 18432
Fighter Bomber Group (1728 FB-177As) Personal: 3456
Multi-Role Group (1728 F-7A) Personal: 1728
Close Air Support Group (1024 A-102Cs) Personal 1024
Bomber Group (768 B-300Cs, 768 B-5, 384 SB-22) Personal: 6912
Transport Group (384 C-1s, 384 C-115s) Personal: 4992
Attack Helicopter Group (768 SAH-33As) Personal: 1536
VTOL Transport Group (768 MV-87Ks; 768 CH-100) Personal: 8448
Combat Information Control Group (128 E-128A; 128 E-128G) Personal: 13,056
Refueling Group (1536 KC-1s) Personal: 9216
68,800x Total Air Crew
1,113,984x Total Assorted Ground Personal (Mechanics, commanders, air traffic controllers, ground crew, etc...).


Yeah, that's about it... Unless you want me to show each of the eight air force bases defence staff, but that shouldn't be nessecary as they will be operating from my homeland (ultra long distance, hence large number of tankers).

OOC: TSS, you know your capabilities better than anyone but...

You've got 54 assorted dreadnoughts, 64 carriers, and hundreds of cruisers/frigates/destroyers, that sort of thing. Also tens of thousands of planes, and (brace yourself) 534,000 assorted vehicles with your army, encompassing artillery, thousands and thousands of tanks and LAVs...

Believe me, I admire your thoroughness on this, but doesn't this seem like a bit much? Your vehicle total is almost half that of your infantry total, plus your vast air fleet and dozens of hyper-expensive ships. (If you don't use thirdgeek.com, disregard the following sentence, but the basic principle is the same regardless) Your forces are much more numerous than mine, especially in vehicles and heavy ships, yet your nation has a slightly smaller population, a less military-oriented government, and less than a seventh of my defense budget.

I don't want to start trouble already, just looking for a justification.

For the navy, that's HALF my entire navy, so don't expect any reinforcements, so while you and others may have more ships lined up in harbors at home, I don't really, well, I do, buy nothing I'd deploy. My numbers have been okayed by the likes of Free Thinkers and Questers, and to be honest, the numbers you got in the Czardas invasion were alot worse, I had 8000+ combat ships compared to 4344 I have now, and I have over twice the population now and my defence spending is about twice what it was. I also pretty sure you have more ships where that came from. Oh, and my

And yes, my army is very mechanized, however, 201,000 of those vehicles are non-combat and require only 2-3 men crews, and another 21,000 of them are SAM vehicles, only 180,000 vehicles are frontline armored combatants, 51,000 are recon or transport vehicles, with 39,000 arty vehicles. I focus on vehicle and arty and little on infantry on infantry combat, which brings up a point, do you force all those soldiers to march with no transports? :P :)

Also, I don't go by thirdgeek, I take the GDP from NStracker, although lowering it for the high tax rates, I calculate to have about 30 trillion USD for defence, and I've done the maintence stats and I can afford it.

Anyway, gotta go shower, I'm late, be back like later tonight.

just letting people know, that i've suffered an accident at work, and crushed my index finger on my left hand, Its not hard to type, but i need to rest my hand up, and i have a bandage on the finger thats restricting my movements, Just letting you all know, I'm taking it easy and will hopefully be back by monday with a fully mobile hand, or at least, I would if i was a CP trooper >_<

Later guys...

While I've told TKC this before over MSN, I shall say it again here on Jolt: ouch. I hope he recovers ASAP. RL understandably must take precedence over NS.....I myself have a few exams to do here and there soon enough.

And Mac, you working on the map?

Aye, ouch indeed. Here's to a pleasant recovery!

And Mac, you working on the map?

No, it's something we completely forgot to discuss! I don't know what you want to look like, nor cities, nor topography, et cetera.

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In terms of an ORBAT, this is what will probably be sent to Southeast Asia. All of it is considered reserve and B class, as my A class military is still at home mopping up the War of Golden Succession.

Naval:

Naval Group 'Aremand'

2x Feathermore class Super Dreadnoughts
2x Aristaqis class Attack Dreadnoughts
7x Establías class Battleships
7x Kristík class Battleships
11x Taníat class Anti-Aircraft Warfare Battle Cruisers
15x Paramount class ADVs
11x Indestructable class CVNs
60x Illium class DDGNs
20x Carranzei class Heavy Missile Guided Cruisers
30x Tenacious class CNs
70-100x Pepperbox class Support Vessels


Submarines

20x Cartagena class SSNs
10x Tenerife class SSHs


Independent Ships

15x Ingeria class BCNs
10x Grospek class BCGNs
20x Taníat class Anti-Aircraft Warfare Battle Cruisers


Ground:


2x Armor Corps
7x Infantry Corps (partly mechanized; so motorized)
1x Mechanized Corps


Air:

~3,000 Lu-45 Hawks
~48 Lu-27 Condors
~1,600 GLI-76 Falcons
~3 GLI-113 Bombers
~120 GLI-34 Albatross Heavy Bombers


Rough sketch of what to expect...

No, it's something we completely forgot to discuss! I don't know what you want to look like, nor cities, nor topography, et cetera.

:headbang:

But of course. We'll chat about it when we see one another online.

Could someone post a link to the conflict thread? Thanks in advance!

Could someone post a link to the conflict thread? Thanks in advance!

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=502229 - SEA is wrapping it up, asked for no more posts, but you can read it to get an idea of what's going on.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=504373 - The new thread that conflict will start in as soon as SEA posts in it.

*twidles thumbs, waiting for the invasion...*

*twidles thumbs, waiting for the invasion...*
As stated in my Jolt response to TKC's poor thumb, I also have a bit of my own RL reasons to attend to: got mock GCSEs to revise for very very soon.

And we need coordination in the timing of this role-play and others before it becomes disorganized and devolves into something remninescent (sp?) of the NATO-RWC conflict/Operation: Brimstone.

And we need coordination in the timing of this role-play and others before it becomes disorganized and devolves into something remninescent (sp?) of the NATO-RWC conflict/Operation: Brimstone.

This is true, and as such, I am content to wait.

I'm in Hong Kong, so I'm on GMT + 8. I wouldn't mind you to do one for me. And preferably we could discuss this over AIM.

Undershi and Emperor Nero, next time, search for an OOC thread first. Do you two even understand what is IC and OOC? If not, then I apologize for my utter frankness, you shouldn't be role-playing in this thread.


You are confused. I made an IC post offering my assistance to Kraven in the IC thread. This is my only OOC post on this subject, which coincidently is in the OOC thread.

I never role-played in this OOC thread.

Thanks.

You are confused. I made an IC post offering my assistance to Kraven in the IC thread. This is my only OOC post on this subject, which coincidently is in the OOC thread.

I never role-played in this OOC thread.

Thanks.

You are right. Your IC post was in the IC thread just like it should have been. You role-played in the right thread, SEA was being a prick towards you for no good reason.

Some players feel they can be dicks to you OOC just because your nation is not very old. Just ignore them. It isn't like you have to be a genius to have a big nation. All you have to do is wait for time to pass. Big deal. That isn't exactly grounds to be arrogant and condescending.

*sigh*

I was implying that you guys should've seen the OOC thread first.

And I don't generalize Dartia (I've seen some good younger role-players like Cravan develop great potential), so please don't return the favor.

Nero, what I was implying was, that my post and TKC's last post was supposed to be the final post in the thread, but no, I forgot to indicate that and I essentially shot myself in the foot.

I was trying to say, was, there is to be no more posts in the IC thread. Full stop.

Okay, is the main invasion thread about to start? And, if so, could someone post a link to it? Thanks in advance. I'm just a little confused.

There's a link on this page. Let's all be patient; the thread would have started if there wasn't a good reason for it NOT to start yet.

Okay, is the main invasion thread about to start? And, if so, could someone post a link to it? Thanks in advance. I'm just a little confused.

There's a link on this page. Let's all be patient; the thread would have started if there wasn't a good reason for it NOT to start yet.
Guys, some points:

1. I'm having RL issues to attend to (mock GCSEs).
2. The main invasion thread shall start the moment I post in the mobilization thread the URL to the Southeast Asian invasion thread, and when TKC posts what is supposed to be in the first post, then I make my response.

Guys, some points:

1. I'm having RL issues to attend to (mock GCSEs).
2. The main invasion thread shall start the moment I post in the mobilization thread the URL to the Southeast Asian invasion thread, and when TKC posts what is supposed to be in the first post, then I make my response.

I understand, man. I was actually trying to address those same points myself. I'm willing to wait as long as it takes.

Okay, I'll wait. Sorry if I sounded annoying or anything. Just wondering what was what.