NationStates Jolt Archive

Senate Majority Leader Alan Blackmoore stepped up to the podium. He was about to ask the Senate to do something, something which would no doubt have major ripple effects on everything the nation was. But he had to do it. Having been a Major General in the Army, he knew that having what the Military needed for a war was critical. A World War was even more important. There hadn't been much of a problem beforehand, but there was since Freedom Tower had been bombed. He knew the nation, with so many of it's young and middle aged men missing, would have a tough time keeping it's Economy afloat. He gulped and began.

" Ladies and Gentlemen of The Senate."
" I stand before you with bill #100066."
" This bill, If passed, would start the draft at a level two draft.
" This means that one million men would be called for duty every month."


" Are you mad...?"

And so, the Senate debate began.



OCC: Wanderjar actually gave me an idea, anybody wanting to take over a senator and argue the case may.

Senator John Gollery spoke first:

"In these times, a draft, however distasteful, is needed. We need men to fight against the invading hordes, however these men should be returned home after the enemy is driven into the sea, and from our lands."

He sat down, hoping others would agree.


(OOC: If you didn't want that post, I'll delete it.)

OOC: One million a month...

OOC: One million a month...

OOC: That does seem extreme. I'd go for about 10,000 a month perhaps. Easier to equip them all that way.

Senator Mubert Rolley spoke next.

" And what then!" He fumed
" If so many men are leaving each month, than how does the Economy survive?" he screamed at Gollery

Senator Mubert Rolley spoke next.

" And what then!" He fumed
" If so many men are leaving each month, than how does the Economy survive?" he screamed at Gollery

Standing again, Gollery said, "Well, I find One Million per month both extreme, and impossibley difficult to arm anyhow. Thus, I propose we decrease it to 10,000 per month. This is easier to equip, and our economy will survive this way. And," He added with a sly grin, "Our enemies still have an impressive force to deal with."

Standing again, Gollery said, "Well, I find One Million per month both extreme, and impossibley difficult to arm anyhow. Thus, I propose we decrease it to 10,000 per month. This is easier to equip, and our economy will survive this way. And," He added with a sly grin, "Our enemies still have an impressive force to deal with."

Blackmoore looked at Gollery. 10,000 a month? That's barely a divison, that only 120,000 a year. Maybe if it was 500,000.

Another Senator spoke up.

"Without this draft, our Economy will be under Father's thumb!
" You want some manaic computer running things and putting men and women in slave camps!?"

This is easier to equip, and our economy will survive this way."
OOC: Still not healthy though.

OOC: Still not healthy though.

OOC: It would have about the same effect as the Vietnam War had on the US. And besides, with your nation undersiege, I think the economy is in danger anyway from bombings, etc. Thus, any large amount of men being equipped to go fight is good.

OOC: It would have about the same effect as the Vietnam War had on the US. And besides, with your nation undersiege, I think the economy is in danger anyway from bombings, etc. Thus, any large amount of men being equipped to go fight is good.

Only 10% of Vietnam veterans were drafted, mind you.

OOC: It would have about the same effect as the Vietnam War had on the US. And besides, with your nation undersiege, I think the economy is in danger anyway from bombings, etc. Thus, any large amount of men being equipped to go fight is good.
OOC: The economy would suffer becuase of bombings, and more so becuase of draft. Imagine Germany during and after WWI instead.;)

plus once it's over you'll have a baby-boom effect

OOC: The economy would suffer becuase of bombings, and more so becuase of draft. Imagine Germany during and after WWI instead.;)

OOC: You have a valid point. However, there are times where its needed.

OOC: You have a valid point. However, there are times where its needed.
OOC: Like right now, for him.

OOC: Like right now, for him.

OOC: haha, yeah. Like I said, I'm starting to like you, you've begun having a personality on the forums, rather than a deficit of the same. Thats a good thing I might add...

Senator Jones took the floor to voice his opinions on the matter.
"Setting any specific number for the Draft is unneccesary, I beleive. It should be impressed upon our military to draft simply as many as they can find that are physically fit to fight. It should also be pressed upon them that 1 million are neccessary each month, as we are going against a military of almost 1 billion, maybe more.

The quality of service from drafted troops will not be as adequate as volunteer troops. it must be voice to our people that if we do not defend ourselves, than we face enslavement, and possible extermination. It is the goal of our enemy to draft every man, woman, and child into a work camp and work them to death, than do the same with the next nation.

Our people must understand that it is better to take up a weapon to try and prevent death, rather than sit idly by and guarantee death.

But forcing 1 million people a month will be physically impossible. If we are to get 1 million a month, I want them to be volunteers anyway."

Senator Jones took the floor to voice his opinions on the matter.
"Setting any specific number for the Draft is unneccesary, I beleive. It should be impressed upon our military to draft simply as many as they can find that are physically fit to fight. It should also be pressed upon them that 1 million are neccessary each month, as we are going against a military of almost 1 billion, maybe more.

The quality of service from drafted troops will not be as adequate as volunteer troops. it must be voice to our people that if we do not defend ourselves, than we face enslavement, and possible extermination. It is the goal of our enemy to draft every man, woman, and child into a work camp and work them to death, than do the same with the next nation.

Our people must understand that it is better to take up a weapon to try and prevent death, rather than sit idly by and guarantee death.

But forcing 1 million people a month will be physically impossible. If we are to get 1 million a month, I want them to be volunteers anyway."

Blackmoore nodded at that. He didnt think there would be too much resitance to the draft, being citizens were impressed with nationalisim at birth. Even so, they couldnt get the voulnteers needed.

Blackmoore spoke again.
" What do the Tolerence and Socialists say?"

Blackmoore nodded at that. He didnt think there would be too much resitance to the draft, being citizens were impressed with nationalisim at birth. Even so, they couldnt get the voulnteers needed.

Blackmoore spoke again.
" What do the Tolerence and Socialists say?"

Gollery replied, "As a Socialist, I agree to this. Defense of our great nation is needed!"

Gollery replied, "As a Socialist, I agree to this. Defense of our great nation is needed!"

" Speak up!"

Senator Geoffrey stood up and spoke,” The draft I agree is required, but a million children of our nation a month are basically culling our nation of an entire generation. I propose that 650,000 persons be drafted a month until our land is secure. After, that I advise that the draft per month be lowered to 400,000 persons.”

Senator Geoffrey stood up and spoke,” The draft I agree is required, but a million children of our nation a month are basically culling our nation of an entire generation. I propose that 650,000 persons be drafted a month until our land is secure. After, that I advise that the draft per month be lowered to 400,000 persons.”

Blackmoore nodded at this. 650,000 would probaly be enough.

-bumpage-

Continuing Geoffrey said,” As an extra defense of our beloved nation I suggest that all able bodied citizens be required to attend a level of military training so as to use them as a militia if necessary.”

Continuing Geoffrey said,” As an extra defense of our beloved nation I suggest that all able bodied citizens be required to attend a level of military training so as to use them as a militia if necessary.”

"And how would we pay for this?" exclaimed an alarmed senator

"It is a matter of life and death, a road either to safety or to ruin. Hence it is a subject of inquiry which can on no account be neglected, Sun Tzu. To the point I advise our nation to not pay for anything beyond transportation and to make attendance mandatory they shall be trained in the most basics of fighting which are hand to hand fighting and simple weapons training.””

"It is a matter of life and death, a road either to safety or to ruin. Hence it is a subject of inquiry which can on no account be neglected, Sun Tzu. To the point I advise our nation to not pay for anything beyond transportation and to make attendance mandatory they shall be trained in the most basics of fighting which are hand to hand fighting and simple weapons training.””

"No!" Shouted Gollery. "They should be shown how to operate a Rifle, basic small unit tactics, and how to follow orders, then shipped to the fronts. They need to be taught how to stay alive, but how to be effective too! If we neglect them this, then we shall just have many casulties, not unlike the USSR in World War Two!"

“To basically have everyone go to boot camp would inhibit our nation’s war industry depriving our brothers and sisters currently on the front lines of vital supplies and munitions. As well, to send everyone to the front would result in a entire generation to be made into victims of this war.”

“To basically have everyone go to boot camp would inhibit our nation’s war industry depriving our brothers and sisters currently on the front lines of vital supplies and munitions. As well, to send everyone to the front would result in a entire generation to be made into victims of this war.”

"As enemy troops begin coming into our nation, and bombers sweeping over our cities, I don't think that anybody will unaffected by this war."

Jones requested the floor again, and upon the end of Gollery's last statement, input just a little more, "I agree that modern warfare techniques, such as the use fo rifles and the implementation of tactics, is needed for more citizens with the threat of a homeland invasion. But literally sending the nation to the front lines defeats the purpose of the military and a just war. Certain men are assigned to do violence on behalf of those in the nation who will live because of their service.

There are warrior nations, places that can boast 100% military service on paper. In reality, only 10% are in active service, 45% or more beyond that are considered reserve, and the rest are not considered military personelle for one reason or another. The 90% that are not active military live the normal lives of citizens very similar to any other nation, and are what truly makes the nation run.

Now I am not suggesting we adopt the warrior nation model, but it provides an excellent illustration. A 100% draft does not put every citizen's life on the line. The incredible draft we are speaking of has the potential to put people into war that simply should not fight.

There is one option we have not explored though, mercernaries. At the same time we draft, we can also hire other militaries to assist our own. We simply don't have what it takes to draft as many people as we need, but there are soldiers ready to fight and just waiting for a paycheck. A mercernary solution can have highly trained and specialized soldiers fighting on the front lines and actually enjoying it. It would actually cost less, as we only pay for the man hours, objectives, et cetera, as opposed to full military maintenance, training, and everything involved with raising a new army from the ground up and supplying them."