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the Ryu no Shogun War Continues (MT/PMT RP ATTN: Demon 666 and Central Powers)

Hataria
13-10-2006, 02:08
OOC: Yep, this is The War thread and it will start off with the Invasion of Korea and the Long awaited Battle of The Sea of Japan. I will let Demon 666 do a recap of what happened before.
Dephire
13-10-2006, 02:17
OOC:
Nice...so now we wait I would assume?
Hataria
13-10-2006, 02:36
OOC:
Nice...so now we wait I would assume?

Yep, I sent him The Link
Demon 666
13-10-2006, 02:49
OK, let's begin.
Basically, my Empire consists of Manchuria, the Sakhalin Islands, Korea, and Russia east of the Aldan River.
I've evacuated Japan, which has fallen to Hataria, but I've used the soldiers in there to launch Operation Imperial Storm.
Operation Imperial Storm is basically a mass attack on the coastal part of the line, while at the same time I've sent about 700,000 men to land right off Tianjing and head directly north to the lines.
The basic idea is to sandwich Hatarian forces, force a hole in their line, and exploit it.
At the same time, The Imperial Navy is battling one Hatarian fleet blockading Korea, and reinforcements. Admiral Masuki Koritari has chosen to quickly eliminate the reinforcements first.
Groznyj
13-10-2006, 02:52
cool, are other nations getting involved in this or is this a closed/semiclosed thread?
Hataria
13-10-2006, 02:56
cool, are other nations getting involved in this or is this a closed/semiclosed thread?


It is Open, besides, Demon 666 needs some Allies to.
Demon 666
13-10-2006, 02:58
cool, are other nations getting involved in this or is this a closed/semiclosed thread?

Oh shit, not you guys too.
Hataria
13-10-2006, 02:58
I'm going to try and draw a map of what happened. Might take a while, given I've never used Imageshack before.


OOC: Ok, Just to tell you The Manchurian Front is at a Stand still and I am going to Invade Korea soon
Demon 666
13-10-2006, 03:03
Korea? Your fleet is battling mine in the Sea of Japan and you're going to plan an invasion at the same time?:confused:
I'm sorry, but are you joking?
Hataria
13-10-2006, 03:06
Korea? Your fleet is battling mine in the Sea of Japan and you're going to plan an invasion at the same time?:confused:
I'm sorry, but are you joking?

OOC:That is why i am going to Attack your Fleet, to get rid of any enemy Fleets that would make The Invasion of Korea.......well...hard.

Oh and the Attack on Korea will be from The sea...AFTER the battle of The Sea of Japan
Demon 666
13-10-2006, 03:09
Oh, OK, that makes more sense.
Hataria
13-10-2006, 03:30
Hatarian East Asian Fleet

one Shogun Class Grand Battleship (The INS Black Pearl)
4 Black Lady Class Air Craft Carriers (with 67 MALI-28 Torpedo Bomber/Fighters and 34 RAGI-10 Intercepters on Each Ship)
39 Republic Class Destroyers
45 Hataropoils Class Battlecruisers
20 Sharktooth Class Battleships
30 Empress Serena Class Light Battleships
130 Coral Sea Class Attack Submarines
39 Market Class Fleet Tenders
400 Striker Class Long Range Torpedo Ships
34 Mako Class Minesweepers
2 Angel Class Hosptial Ships




This is the Fleet Demon 666 will be engageing, the Shogun Class Grand Battleship Nadia (one which Crowned Princess Galaxia is on) and 40 Porugese Man o' War Class Battleships are going to sail out from Shanghi and Join the Fleet soon
Hataria
13-10-2006, 17:21
Bump
Dephire
13-10-2006, 20:53
OOC: Sorry, I have to just be a spectator atm. Before I can fully commit myself to this thread, I have to restore my nation to it's former glory.
Hataria
13-10-2006, 21:20
OOC: Sorry, I have to just be a spectator atm. Before I can fully commit myself to this thread, I have to restore my nation to it's former glory.

OOC: ok
Dephire
13-10-2006, 21:25
OOC: ok

OOC: Wow. Pudu and The Aeson have vouchered to help restore Dephire! Nice...
Demon 666
13-10-2006, 22:25
8 Imperial Carriers steamed out of the Sea of Japan, followed by the accompanying destroyers, frigates, cruisers, and subs. Lots of subs.
Koritari sat on the mega-battlship and flagship, Herennius. Hands folded behind his back, he worked out a strategy.
The best way to win would be with planes. The Imperial Fleet had more carriers and could access land-based aircraft, though not too many, against the Hatarian navies.
He gave orders for the Fleet to slow down and for the planes to fuel and arm.
Meanwhile, Operation Imperial Storm had proceeded smoothly. The Hatarian troops on the coast were sandwiched. Soon there would be a gap.

Our fleet:
8 Aircraft carrier, with 80 fighter-bombers and 25 Fighter-interceptors on each one.
1 mega-battleship, the Herennius. Flagship for Imperial Navy.
40 Destroyers
27 Battlecruisers
45 Frigates
5 Battleships
185 Attack Subs
21 Typhoon AA Ships (A ship designed for nothing more than shooting down planes)
10 Minesweepers
Hataria
13-10-2006, 23:30
The Hatarians were watching the enemy attack closely and were now starting a attack from behind as 1,800,210 Chinese Colonial Garudsmen were heading from Beijing to the Front for a attack against The enemy.

Sea of Japan.

The Fleet soon sent scout planes to start seraching for The enemy fleet, soon the Hatarians would find the enemy and engage in a battle to end all battles

Deaths in Manchuria

3,879 Troops killed
56 tanks and vehicles destroyed.

the Army heading for Manchuria

1,800,210 Chinese Colonial Graudsmen.
679 CT-24 Main Battle Tanks
320 AMX-10 HOT ATGM Launcher Vehicles
410 BM-21 122mm Multiple Rocket Launcher Vehicles
200 ZSU-57-2 57mm Self-Propelled Anti-aircraft Gun Vehicles
312 2S1 122mm Self-Propelled Howitzers

OOC: Like the army i am sending to Manchuria?
Hataria
14-10-2006, 00:50
bump
Wanderjar
14-10-2006, 01:29
The Wanderjarian Fleet had positioned itself in the Sea of Japan. Hundreds of Wanderjarian SSNs remained hidden beneath the waves, unseen by Hatarian or Demonic (sorry if thats the wrong term :() Naval Forces.


An open broadcast made to the Hatarian Government stated:

"This is Emperor Baker of the Socialist Commonwealth of Wanderjar. We strongly urge you to not take on this invasion of Demon666 and intend to maintain a peace keeper force in the region. If you, however, open fire on us, or attempt to run our blockade, our response will be most swift. Do not make us do this, as we consider the Hatarians friends. It would be a tragedy to kill any Hatarian Forces, but if that is what it takes to keep peace, so be it. Do make the mistake of not taking us seriously, as we cannot be more so."
Hataria
14-10-2006, 02:06
The Wanderjarian Fleet had positioned itself in the Sea of Japan. Hundreds of Wanderjarian SSNs remained hidden beneath the waves, unseen by Hatarian or Demonic (sorry if thats the wrong term :() Naval Forces.


An open broadcast made to the Hatarian Government stated:

"This is Emperor Baker of the Socialist Commonwealth of Wanderjar. We strongly urge you to not take on this invasion of Demon666 and intend to maintain a peace keeper force in the region. If you, however, open fire on us, or attempt to run our blockade, our response will be most swift. Do not make us do this, as we consider the Hatarians friends. It would be a tragedy to kill any Hatarian Forces, but if that is what it takes to keep peace, so be it. Do make the mistake of not taking us seriously, as we cannot be more so."


To: Emperor Baker
From: Her Imperial Majesty, Crown Princess Galaxia De Lunaria of The Imperial Republic of Hataria

I, Princess Galaxia, warns Emperor Baker that I, along with Grand General Asuka Langay Shyou, are in command of The Grand Armies of The Empire and warns you not to engage or Blockade our fleet, or face Imperial waith.

Normal IC: In Scouts were flying over the area looking are any ships, one scout saw something moveing underwater, a shadow of a Sub, another saw one of The Wanderjarian ships and reported it back to the Black Pearl.

a Few hours later, one of The Scout Planes soon saw a ship, a Large Ship that was not a Hatarian or Wanderjarian. "Holy god! I think we Found a enemy Ship!" the pliot said, he soon Reported it to The Fleet.
Wanderjar
14-10-2006, 02:08
To: Emperor Baker
From: Her Imperial Majesty, Crown Princess Galaxia De Lunaria of The Imperial Republic of Hataria

I, Princess Galaxia, warns Emperor Baker that I, along with Grand General Asuka Langay Shyou, are in command of The Grand Armies of The Empire and warns you not to engage or Blockade our fleet, or face Imperial waith.

Normal IC: In Scouts were flying over the area looking are any ships, one scout saw something moveing underwater, a shadow of a Sub, another saw one of The Wanderjarian ships and reported it back to the Black Pearl.

a Few hours later, one of The Scout Planes soon saw a ship, a Large Ship that was not a Hatarian or Wanderjarian. "Holy god! I think we Found a enemy Ship!" the pliot said, he soon Reported it to The Fleet.

In response, Emperor Baker said, "Your threats do not frighten me. I do not want a fight. However, if you do not cease these needed hostilities, a Peacekeeping effort will be required. I will have no choice. However, I do not mean I will harm your soldiers, I have other effective means to deter them without killing, or even harming them. Cross my blockade and you shall understand."


(OOC: How do you see an SSN? It's a submarine.)
Galmiria
14-10-2006, 02:11
The Galmirian Military would like to send peacekeeping forces with our Protector, Wanderjar.


Ships Sent
10 Cruisers
5 Destroyers
1 Carriers
4 Subs
Hataria
14-10-2006, 02:39
In response, Emperor Baker said, "Your threats do not frighten me. I do not want a fight. However, if you do not cease these needed hostilities, a Peacekeeping effort will be required. I will have no choice. However, I do not mean I will harm your soldiers, I have other effective means to deter them without killing, or even harming them. Cross my blockade and you shall understand."


(OOC: How do you see an SSN? It's a submarine.)


OOC: if you are in the air near a Sub, The Sub will be a Shadow like object in the water or like a Whale. That is how they spotted Subs in World Wars I and II.

I read alot:D
Wanderjar
14-10-2006, 02:44
OOC: if you are in the air near a Sub, The Sub will be a Shadow like object in the water or like a Whale. That is how they spotted Subs in World Wars I and II.

I read alot:D

:)


I study Sub Warfare too. But that doesn't necessarily apply for SSNs, just old Type VI, VII, and Xs.
Hataria
14-10-2006, 02:46
:)


I study Sub Warfare too. But that doesn't necessarily apply for SSNs, just old Type VI, VII, and Xs.

OOC: ok
Wanderjar
14-10-2006, 02:57
OOC: ok

Anyway, would you mind responding to my previous post please?

Thank you :)
Hataria
14-10-2006, 03:28
OOC The Ryu no Shogun War on NSWiki (http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Ryu_no_Shogun_War)
Hataria
14-10-2006, 03:31
In response, Emperor Baker said, "Your threats do not frighten me. I do not want a fight. However, if you do not cease these needed hostilities, a Peacekeeping effort will be required. I will have no choice. However, I do not mean I will harm your soldiers, I have other effective means to deter them without killing, or even harming them. Cross my blockade and you shall understand."





Try anything against The Fleet and the friendship between our Nations will end with your Ships being Blasted to Davy Jones Locker, this is just a Warning, not a Threat.

Signed: Empress Neherenia the Conquerer
Galmiria
14-10-2006, 03:33
ooc:can you reply to my post about peacekeeping forces because I will send them if not replied.
Wanderjar
14-10-2006, 03:36
Try anything against The Fleet and the friendship between our Nations will end with your Ships being Blasted to Davy Jones Locker, this is just a Warning, not a Threat.

Signed: Empress Neherenia the Conquerer

Reply:

"I understand." Emperor Baker turned to his Military advisors in the TACOPS room of his Palace. "You know what to do." They nodded. The Bomb was ready to launch, if the Hatarians moved within 30 miles of Wanderjarian ships....

(Its not a nuke, I assure you. I only have one nuke, and wouldn't use it unless I needed to. Thats all I'll say for now.)
Blackhelm Confederacy
14-10-2006, 03:41
Griffincrest forces request that Demon 666 allow a force of Griffincrest mercenaries to assist your men in the naval battle. I would be willing to keep a force of 100 Hong-5 bombers in Korea, as well as two hundred Mongoose 165mm artillery pieces to assist in defending the coast.

With the battle for our own nation now dwindled down to two small conflicts, we are able to spare these units.
Hataria
14-10-2006, 03:43
Near Beijing, China

2,000 Hatarian RAGI-17 Fighter/Bombers were soon takeing off to start Bombing Roads, Railroads and bridges North of where The enemy were fighting The Hatarians. This was to Keep The enemy from sending Renforcements to The Front lines and giveing The Hatarians help in Defeating the enemy.
Groznyj
14-10-2006, 04:26
ooc: I've decided to get involved in this one.

It was a sunny afternoon in the Presidential District of Farbanti, the capital of Groznyj. The door was open,-Urmev usually didn't care to much for his own privacy durring peace time-an aid walked in the room and knocked before proceeding. Urmev looked up and nodded before replying to the voice on the other end of the telephone. The aid left abruptly and shut the door. When Urmev finished he put down the phone and read the title of the folder: "Ryu no Shogun Conflict".

Background Info:
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The nations of Groznyj and Demon 666 had always been at political odds for years. The cause of this was the mass executions of muslims living in Demonic lands. Being 92% Muslim by population, it was obvious that this upset more than a few leading members of government in Groznyj. Regardless of this the two nations had managed to keep their swords sheethed in their political dealings though the prospect of war always lurked one insult away.
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After reading the report the president could not but laugh a little to himself. That stern wisened face of his, with a short white beared wasn't used to much amusement, at least not since it had been found that he had lung cancer...damned tobacco pipe. (ooc: Ramzan Urmev looks like Sean Connery w/ a slightly thinner face. He's about 62 yrs old.)

Oh yes this would be an excelent oppurtunity to get Teranius right where he wanted him. There wouldn't be much to worry for once the deed had been done. He made two letters for Demon 666. One to the point, the other more wordy and fuzzier:

draft one
From Ramzan Urmev of the Rep. of Groznyj
To Teranius of Demon 666

I know that our two nations have never seen eye to eye on a lot of things, religious tolerance being one of them. However, on behalf of the Republic of Groznyj, I would like to extend my hand and my sword to help defend your nation from the juggernaught that is Hataria. You know well you will need all the help you can get against this foe and I am willing to put aside my differences with you to ensure that your land is not swallowed by the greater evil.

signed, Ramzan Urmev,
President of the Republic of Groznyj


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draft two
From Ramzan Urmev of the Rep. of Groznyj
To Teranius of Demon 666

It has come to my attention that you are in dire straits in your war against Hataria. I am willing to put my forces on the line to help you fend off the juggernaught; I know you need all the help you can get. This may seem confusing to you but I assure you this is with good intent. All details will be worked out later provided you accept military aid from Groznyj.

signed, Ramzan Urmev,
President of the Republic of Groznyj

Urmev looked at the rough drafts for a minute and thought about the situation. The oppurtunity was just too good to pass up. However other things weighed on his mind.. he had always sought security for his country and recently Groznyj had been making changes in order to apply and be accepted into the GASN. The Blackhelm Confederacy was also helping Demon 666 in this matter. But it was alright, Groznyj had a clean slate internationally and its leader was a masterful politician and speaker.

-Four seconds later he tossed out the first letter.

/encrypted transmission/

From President Urmev
To Teranius of Demon 666

It has come to my attention that you are in dire straits in your war against Hataria. I am willing to put my forces on the line to help you fend off the juggernaught; I know you need all the help you can get. This may seem confusing to you but I assure you this is with good intent. All details will be worked out later provided you accept military aid from Groznyj.

signed, Ramzan Urmev,
President of the Republic of Groznyj

___________________________________________________

Then Urmev made a letter to Hataria. He wouldn't tell them he was siding with Demon 666, no not yet. But a random seemingly benign question couldn't hurt.

To: Gov't of Hataria
From: The Republic of Groznyj

The Republic of Groznyj would like to know of the size and force of the Hatarian fleet in and around the Sea of Japan. We are currently studying military tactics of great leaders and would like to learn the ways of great military minds. There also a number of historians in our borders who's sole wish is to document the victory of a powerful force in the Sea of Japan for all eternity.

It was probably the silliest thing he had ever written ever since assuming office. He sent an aid to forward the document and got on the line with his war council.
Hataria
14-10-2006, 04:44
To: Gov't of Hataria
From: The Republic of Groznyj

The Republic of Groznyj would like to know of the size and force of the Hatarian fleet in and around the Sea of Japan. We are currently studying military tactics of great leaders and would like to learn the ways of great military minds. There also a number of historians in our borders who's sole wish is to document the victory of a powerful force in the Sea of Japan for all eternity.

It was probably the silliest thing he had ever written ever since assuming office. He sent an aid to forward the document and got on the line with his war council.

Empress Neherenia thought something was off with Groznyj asking for fleet numbers, Neherenia wasn't one to be fooled into a Trap and She knew one when she Smelt it. She wasn,t one to give out how big one's Fleet was nor where it was.
Wanderjar
14-10-2006, 04:46
Empress Neherenia thought something was off with Groznyj asking for fleet numbers, Neherenia wasn't one to be fooled into a Trap and She knew one when she Smelt it. She wasn,t one to give out how big one's Fleet was nor where it was.

OOC: Could you at least RP out your movements? Since if you get within 30-35 miles of my fleet (Its Between your fleet and the Korean Penninsula), I am going to....do something.

Not telling me this is technically a god mod, since I have to be able to respond to your movements. And trust me, I would know in real life.
Groznyj
14-10-2006, 04:54
ooc: (we may want to consider an ooc thread, dunno yet) um, Hataria, what was implied in the letter icly: was broad/general statistics, not anything really exact. Sorry for the misinturpretation.
edit: g'night all. =P
Hataria
14-10-2006, 05:12
OOC: Could you at least RP out your movements? Since if you get within 30-35 miles of my fleet (Its Between your fleet and the Korean Penninsula), I am going to....do something.

Not telling me this is technically a god mod, since I have to be able to respond to your movements. And trust me, I would know in real life.

OOC: My Fleet is already in The Sea of Japan (see the Thread "Goblal Retrubution" where the War started thanks to Demon 666 sideing with Griffencrest) But The Nadia and it's escorts are on it's way, and The Grand Battleship has The Crown Princess on it so in short, your toast.
Wanderjar
14-10-2006, 05:25
OOC: My Fleet is already in The Sea of Japan (see the Thread "Goblal Retrubution" where the War started thanks to Demon 666 sideing with Griffencrest) But The Nadia and it's escorts are on it's way, and The Grand Battleship has The Crown Princess on it so in short, your toast.

OOC: I fail to see how.


IC:

In sighting the incoming Hatarian fleet, the Wanderjarian Naval Command made one last effort to warn them:

"Do not advance! We wish you no harm! Turn around, and return home!"

The Government also recieved a message:

"This is your last chance. Order a withdrawl of Hatarian Forces. If you choose to not, you will face the consequences."
Demon 666
14-10-2006, 12:59
OOC:
1. Hataria, how far away is your reinforcement fleet from mine? And ho also, you need to say something about the land war too, you know.
2. Wanderjar, I can go by Demonic, but Imperial is the generally accepted term.
3. Given I have generally stayed away from the CA before this war, I'm sort of confused, but can someone explain to me the difference between Blackhelm and Griffencrest?

Sea of Japan:
Koritari analyzed his position as the Hatarian fleet closed in.
It looked like there was only one way to win.
He issued orders for all ships to form a line in front of the carriers, with the AA ships stationed literally very close to the ships.
The intention was clear. Koritari had to protect the carriers at all cost, given that his fleet, while possessing far fewer offensive ships, had a overwhelming superiority in planes.


Amor, the capital of the Imperial Empire (side note: it's located where the city of Harbin, Manchuria):
We formally thank our Griffencrest allies and will use them to defend our Empire

Tenarius finished dictating the letter and turned to the dossier.
"So what's next on the list?"
He pulled out and read the letter he had received:

From President Urmev
To Teranius of Demon 666

It has come to my attention that you are in dire straits in your war against Hataria. I am willing to put my forces on the line to help you fend off the juggernaught; I know you need all the help you can get. This may seem confusing to you but I assure you this is with good intent. All details will be worked out later provided you accept military aid from Groznyj.

signed, Ramzan Urmev,
President of the Republic of Groznyj

Tenarius's eye twitched slightly. Sitting down and lighting another cigarette, he began writing his response to the Groznyjians.
Kind of ironic- in spite of the fact that the two countries were at each other's throats, they had worked together twice now.
Hataria
15-10-2006, 03:00
The Hatarian Planes were soon in Manchurian Air Space, but they knew it would be soon that The enemy would see them on RADAR and then it would be Top gun over manchuria.

The planes were conitinueing north

on the Ground, The Hatarian Army was now Crossing The Borader. heading for a Attack behind The enemy Army.

IC:

In sighting the incoming Hatarian fleet, the Wanderjarian Naval Command made one last effort to warn them:

"Do not advance! We wish you no harm! Turn around, and return home!"

The Government also recieved a message:

"This is your last chance. Order a withdrawl of Hatarian Forces. If you choose to not, you will face the consequences."


The Hatarian Fleet soon sent The answer viva Fireing what looked to be a Depth Charge into the Water, but this was worse, a EMP Weapon known as Fleet Stuner, The Hatarian Ships were all EMP Shielded and were ready to Cross as the FS Gone off, sending EMPs in a 10 mile area
Wanderjar
15-10-2006, 05:08
OOC: Oh, you dumb baka.........you just ended up with a Problem......Bigtime

IC: The Fleet luanched it's Anti-missile Defenses but the fleet soon got EMPed and was now stuck......Large Mistake for Baker, he had now made a enemy of The Hatarians and would soon pay with His Nation.

Secert IC: while this Attack by The Wanderjarians was yet to begin, Princess Galaxia had her small Battleship Sqaudron turn back to Shanghi and begin Operation: Iron Claw. Already, Hatarian War Satellites were strikeing at enemy Satellites to make sure that The Fleet that would target Wanderjar's Home Fleet in Revenge would stay Secert.

a Surprise Attack against Wanderjar would in Hopes, make Wanderjar lissen to Hataria's Warning about NOT BLOCKING THEIR FLEET!

OOC: I had deleted the post for a reason. Something came up and I can't be bothered with a war with you right now.

EDIT:

Don't worry about it, Thank you though!
Hataria
15-10-2006, 23:17
Bump
Demon 666
15-10-2006, 23:32
Um, Hataria, where the hell is this ground attack coming from? And you're completely ignoring my attack.
On a side note, I would guess my fleet is about 80 miles away from your fleet, given my carriers are going to do nearly all the work in this naval battle.

IC:
Koritari scanned and folded his hands behind his back.
The ring formation was complete. Cruisers, destroyers, subs, frigates had now formed a protective semi-circle around the eight Imperial carriers.

Koritari looked around. Everything was ready.
"First wave, go!"
300 Fighter-bombers lifted off the carriers Yerellkov, Herennius, and Kortov accomanied by Stingrays from land bases off of Korea.
"Men you know your objectives. Get to the carriers first and take them down.
Also, AA guns, load your rocket tubes!"
Hataria
16-10-2006, 00:03
Um, Hataria, where the hell is this ground attack coming from? And you're completely ignoring my attack.
On a side note, I would guess my fleet is about 80 miles away from your fleet, given my carriers are going to do nearly all the work in this naval battle.

IC:
Koritari scanned and folded his hands behind his back.
The ring formation was complete. Cruisers, destroyers, subs, frigates had now formed a protective semi-circle around the eight Imperial carriers.

Koritari looked around. Everything was ready.
"First wave, go!"
300 Fighter-bombers lifted off the carriers Yerellkov, Herennius, and Kortov accomanied by Stingrays from land bases off of Korea.
"Men you know your objectives. Get to the carriers first and take them down.
Also, AA guns, load your rocket tubes!"


OOC: the Ground Attack is coming from Behind your Forces, I no, I haven't ignored your attack, I was just Busy with The up coming Naval Battle but the latest Death Toll is here

Ground Battle

4,500 Troops killed, 100 Tanks and Vehicles destroyed.

IC: Sea of Japan.

The Nadia and it's escourt of Porugese Man o' War Class Battleships joined the Fleet and now With Princess Galaxia in Charge, the enemy would be in trobble as The Carriers soon started sending up planes to watch out for any enemy Planes.

With Scout-10

"Ah, there is the enemy." the pliot said, flying around when he saw something that made his heart stop 'their Carriers are sending Their Planes!' he said to him self. He soon radioed back to the Fleet

The Manchurian Front

5 Regiments of 5,000 Troops of The Trapped Army were soon attacking with 400 Tanks as back up in hopes of Breaking out, but Soon help came from The Skies, The Planes that were to bomb enemy Roads to the north got a radio from one commander who was in China, his name was Count Baltor Del Yamanto, the Governer of China "To all pilots, Head for the enemy Front and Blast them." He ordered. Since He was in chagre of The Air force in China, no one could fight with him so the Planes were soon heading for The enemy with Bombs ARMED.
Groznyj
16-10-2006, 00:21
ooc: Demon, you want to reply to my messege sometime? I can't get involved unless you say I can.
Demon 666
16-10-2006, 00:41
Message from Tenarius to Urmev:
We thank the Groznyjians for their offer of help. Despite the long and perhaps never-ending feud between us, the Hatarians are for us a graver threat than your people. Therefore, we thank you for your assistance, and invite you to help.
I would also like to observe that our program for the Muslim solution is winding down, if that would pelase you.
Sincerely, Tenarius

OOC: The program is winding down because all the Muslims left are dead or hiding in the mountains. Of course, Tenarius isn't going to say that.
Hataria
16-10-2006, 00:44
OOC: say, Demon, when will the map be ready?

Oh and here is The Ryu no Shogun War on NSWiki

http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Ryu_no_Shogun_War
Groznyj
16-10-2006, 01:39
-encrypted transmission:
From: The Office of the President of Groznyj
To: Emperor Tenarius

You have made the wise choice emperor. As of this messege the 1st Republic Fleet is steaming toward your area. Expect them to arrive in 2 days as they must navigate through the Suez to get to you.

P.S. In addition I will let you know my terms once Hataria is driven back. I expect them to be met.
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Once the order had been passed down the 1st Republic Fleet left anchor at Kanti Naval Base, north of Kanti. Once they passed through the canal aircraft stationed in Groznyj would fly over and land at their designated carriers. Fighter patrols would be stepped up in the south of Groznyj and Oliver Hazard Perry frigates would be deployed to help protect the fleets supply convoys. No ground forces were sent out yet but were put on standby for deployment incase it was neccessary. Fleet Admiral Volkan Uslanbeck would be commanding the fleet.

1st Republic Fleet:

6 Nimitz Class CVNs
8 Charles de Gualle Class CVNs

4 Montana Class BBNs
8 Iowa Class BBNs

19 Arleigh Burke Class DDGs
4 Dragon Class Destroyers (DMG provided)

15 Ticonderoga Class CCGs

12 Seawolf Class SSNs
6 Virginia Class SSNs

7 Ohio Class SSGNs

Total of 89 Ships; 18.5% of the Republic Navy.
Demon 666
16-10-2006, 01:47
Oh yeah, um, I got kind of can't figure it out how to upload crap, so I have it, but I don't know how to upload it..
Hataria
16-10-2006, 02:07
Oh yeah, um, I got kind of can't figure it out how to upload crap, so I have it, but I don't know how to upload it..

ok
Hataria
16-10-2006, 02:17
-encrypted transmission:
From: The Office of the President of Groznyj
To: Emperor Tenarius

You have made the wise choice emperor. As of this messege the 1st Republic Fleet is steaming toward your area. Expect them to arrive in 2 days as they must navigate through the Suez to get to you.

P.S. In addition I will let you know my terms once Hataria is driven back. I expect them to be met.
-------------------------------

Once the order had been passed down the 1st Republic Fleet left anchor at Kanti Naval Base, north of Kanti. Once they passed through the canal aircraft stationed in Groznyj would fly over and land at their designated carriers. Fighter patrols would be stepped up in the south of Groznyj and Oliver Hazard Perry frigates would be deployed to help protect the fleets supply convoys. No ground forces were sent out yet but were put on standby for deployment incase it was neccessary. Fleet Admiral Volkan Uslanbeck would be commanding the fleet.

1st Republic Fleet:

6 Nimitz Class CVNs
8 Charles de Gualle Class CVNs

4 Montana Class BBNs
8 Iowa Class BBNs

19 Arleigh Burke Class DDGs
4 Dragon Class Destroyers (DMG provided)

15 Ticonderoga Class CCGs

12 Seawolf Class SSNs
6 Virginia Class SSNs

7 Ohio Class SSGNs

Total of 89 Ships; 18.5% of the Republic Navy.

OOC: is this Secert IC?
Groznyj
16-10-2006, 02:33
ooc: yes, the ships have just left anchor in Port Kanti (location wise it's in the norhtern Caucasus region on the black sea) and I haven't told anyone but Demon that I'm coming. Oh srry, the list is just an ooc reference to what Im sending srry I just understood what you were asking. I'll rp their arrival in time dont worry.
Hataria
16-10-2006, 04:21
ooc: yes, the ships have just left anchor in Port Kanti (location wise it's in the norhtern Caucasus region on the black sea) and I haven't told anyone but Demon that I'm coming. Oh srry, the list is just an ooc reference to what Im sending srry I just understood what you were asking. I'll rp their arrival in time dont worry.


OOC: Well, I was thinking of spotting it with Spy Satellites and haveing them face my Mederttean Fleet in a Battle at The Suez Canal if that is ok.
Groznyj
16-10-2006, 04:52
ooc: Im sorry Hataria but I don't think so. The reason is icly you have no idea where my fleet is going. It could be going to attack you just as much as it could be racing a school of fish around the world. RP wise it wouldnt seem right. Besides currently I have a major naval operation underway concerning the lands of Southern Arterius (Kraven conflict) so it could be for that too icly

Though Im sure we can work something out when I get closer :cool: . But really, I was planning on linking up with Demon behind his forces and coming around n stuff.
Demon 666
17-10-2006, 00:58
A Stingray fighter sighted the scout plane, and locked on to him with his missiles.
Meanwhile, the planes continued to where the Hatarian fleet.
Koritari smiled, and ordered the second wave to fuel up and arm.
Hataria
17-10-2006, 01:33
A Stingray fighter sighted the scout plane, and locked on to him with his missiles.
Meanwhile, the planes continued to where the Hatarian fleet.
Koritari smiled, and ordered the second wave to fuel up and arm.

The Scout made a run for it and had already radioed where The enemy was. While this was happening, Long ranged RADAR picked up the first of the planes and soon, The Ships armed ther AA guns and Missile Launchers as the Fighters soon headed off to engage The enemy.

The Ships soon started getting into formation with the carriers and The two Shogun Class Grand Battleships in the center while The others were round them, with The Subs on the outside of it.

The battle was going to start now.
Groznyj
17-10-2006, 02:30
The Republic 1st fleet sailed one by one through the canal connecting the Medditerraenean to the Red Sea. This would be the slowest part of the journey towards eastern waters. Intel was limited only to what Imperial forces cared to share and Hatarian satellite detection technology made the utilization of spy satellites or recon planes far too risky. Groznyj had not formally announced anything with Hataria and it was Admiral Uslanbeck's aim to link up with the Imperial Navy and deliver a crushing counter-attack via the air against Hatarian forces.

But for now, captains and crewmen had to sit idly by, absorbing what scenery there was and tending to menial chores. In a few hours fighter planes would be launched from bases in Andoria (Turkey) to land on the fleets 14 carriers.

So far so good. The fleet slowly advanced through the canals and 9 hours later they were all through and into the Red Sea.
Hataria
17-10-2006, 02:43
Shanghi, Hatarian China.

Grand General Asuka looked at the map of Korea, The Hatarian SpyNet had found out that Griffincrest was getting a base in Korea, a Airbase that was a danger to Hataria's Rule of China.

This Aribase couldn't be alowed to be used.

The Hatarians soon sent Carrier Sentai (Task Force) Samurai to the Hatarian Blockade of Korea on a Mission to DESTROY all enemy Airbases in Korea.

Carrier Sentai Samurai

7 Imperium Class Air Craft Carriers (withn 78 RAGI-18 Intercepters and 50 RYU-28 Carrier based Bombers on each Ship)
30 Republic Class Destroyers
10 Sea Wolf Class Submarines
20 Dead Moon Class Curisers

This Task force sailed out of Shanghi to head for Korea.
Demon 666
18-10-2006, 00:04
The Scout made a run for it and had already radioed where The enemy was. While this was happening, Long ranged RADAR picked up the first of the planes and soon, The Ships armed ther AA guns and Missile Launchers as the Fighters soon headed off to engage The enemy.

The Ships soon started getting into formation with the carriers and The two Shogun Class Grand Battleships in the center while The others were round them, with The Subs on the outside of it.

The battle was going to start now.

The planes abruptly turned around. It seemed like they were going to head back to their carriers.
Koritari smiled,
"Second wave, launch! Third wave, arm and fuel!"

Meanwhile in Machuria, Imperial troops continued to hammer away at the gap, while Yerellkov gave the order for an advance along the entire front.
Hataria
18-10-2006, 01:17
The planes abruptly turned around. It seemed like they were going to head back to their carriers.
Koritari smiled,
"Second wave, launch! Third wave, arm and fuel!"

Meanwhile in Machuria, Imperial troops continued to hammer away at the gap, while Yerellkov gave the order for an advance along the entire front.

The Hataraian Fleet soon launched a Attack on the enemy fleet, a Missile attack with Hataria's deadiest Missile ever, The Threasher Shark Unerwater Curise Missiles. These Missiles wre fired into The water and targets the ship viva Global Prositioning/Spy Satellites orbiting The Earth. The Missiles could go to 500 Feet, out of the range of most Anti-Missile and Anti-Torpedo Defenses. 10 from each of The Ships (all but The Carriers) were Launched, at the enemy Fleet. But the Missile was a nightmare since it can Head strait Up at the underbelly of a Ship, once it reaches the Targets, and Hataria was going to make sure the enemy would be Smashed.

While the Ships fired the Threashers, the Planes fired The Deadly M-90 RAPTOR anti-shipping Missile. four from each Fighter. The Missiles speed was at Mach 4.0 and would be hard, and worse, It was Long Ranged.

This Missile Attack was heading for the fleet

Manchuria

The Hatarians soon were attacked, cuseing 412 Vehciels Destroyed and 10,739 Deaths, But Help Came, from behind and above as the Planes came and dropped their Bombs while The Fighters used their Cannons to Blast away at the enemy.

and From Behind The enemy, The Hatarian 15th Grand Army of China soon started their attack with Artillery Bombarment against The enemy
Hataria
18-10-2006, 03:01
Bump
Demon 666
18-10-2006, 03:30
Given that the Hatarian planes completely ignored the Imperial Planes which had turned around, and the second wave that had approached, the result was a mass slaughter, as the outflanked and outnumbered Hatarian planes ended up in huge trouble.
OOC: Hataria, an observation on your little cruise missile volley.
Of all the ships you have listed, only destroyers are capable of launching cruise missiles. Subs do not carry cruise missiles. Cruisers don't carry cruise missiles. And Battleships and Fleet Tenders sure as hell don't fire Cruise Missiles.
Second, how the hell did your men get behind me? The only way is an amphibious invasion, and for the last time, carrying out an amphibious invasion during a gigantic naval battle is idiotic.
Hataria
18-10-2006, 03:44
Given that the Hatarian planes completely ignored the Imperial Planes which had turned around, and the second wave that had approached, the result was a mass slaughter, as the outflanked and outnumbered Hatarian planes ended up in huge trouble.
OOC: Hataria, an observation on your little cruise missile volley.
Of all the ships you have listed, only destroyers are capable of launching cruise missiles. Subs do not carry cruise missiles. Cruisers don't carry cruise missiles. And Battleships and Fleet Tenders sure as hell don't fire Cruise Missiles.
Second, how the hell did your men get behind me? The only way is an amphibious invasion, and for the last time, carrying out an amphibious invasion during a gigantic naval battle is idiotic.

OOC: I thought you had my troops Trapped near The Coast so my second army came over land.

and when I meen All Ships I meen all warships (Save for Carriers and Subs since they don't fire Curise Missiles.) Not Tenders or The Hospital Ships. most Hatarian ships have Curise Missile Launchers (all but the surport ships and Subs and Carriers)
Hataria
18-10-2006, 03:57
the Planes soon attacked the enemy, suffering 23 Planes downed. But Hatarian Planes have a bad habit of being Forward Swept Winged. Increased maneuverability at transonic speeds, due to airflow from wing tip to wing root preventing a stall of the wing tips and ailerons at high angle of attack and going at mach 4, Most Hatarian Planes were Deadly in air.

Useing Their 33 mm Cannons, The Hatarian Planes started Dogfighting with The enemy, trying to get them into the Danger Zone......where Anti-aircraft Missiles were at their most Deadly range.
Leafanistan
18-10-2006, 04:46
OOC: Say, I have a platoon of fake Kraven Troopers and a small group of Kreigsmarine in Demon 666, anyone mind helping me out here. Bombing the Praetorian Guards that appeared on the road in front of my troopers.

If I can join in with Hataria, I can destabilize his lines.
Groznyj
18-10-2006, 16:55
Day two of voyage:

The 1st Republic fleet was now well into its voyage. Coming around southeast asia the fleet admiral issued a messege to Imperial forces:

"1st Republic Fleet in SE-Asian waters. Will rendezvous in 12 hours. Requesting sitrep."

The carrier fleet had begun sending out scout planes to make sure the coast was clear as they steamed on.

ooc: Hataria, you can feel free to begin confrontations once I get close to the area of conflict.
Blackhelm Confederacy
18-10-2006, 17:01
Forty Griffincrest Hong-5 bombers took flight from their runway in Demon 666, setting a course for the Hatarian forces hitting Manchuria. Inside of them, thounsands of pounds of white phospherous waited to be dropped on the Hatarians that would soon be below them.
Hataria
18-10-2006, 17:52
Forty Griffincrest Hong-5 bombers took flight from their runway in Demon 666, setting a course for the Hatarian forces hitting Manchuria. Inside of them, thounsands of pounds of white phospherous waited to be dropped on the Hatarians that would soon be below them.

waitung for them were about 1,000 Hatarian RAGI-17 Intercepters, all of them ready in case The Demonic Air Force (or in this case, Griffincrest) tried anything, if they wanted to bomb The Hatarians, then they had to go though the Hatarian Fighters, and RAGI's had a bad habit of useing Their Guns (27mm Cannons) on enemy Bombers.
Demon 666
18-10-2006, 21:16
the Planes soon attacked the enemy, suffering 23 Planes downed. But Hatarian Planes have a bad habit of being Forward Swept Winged. Increased maneuverability at transonic speeds, due to airflow from wing tip to wing root preventing a stall of the wing tips and ailerons at high angle of attack and going at mach 4, Most Hatarian Planes were Deadly in air.

Useing Their 33 mm Cannons, The Hatarian Planes started Dogfighting with The enemy, trying to get them into the Danger Zone......where Anti-aircraft Missiles were at their most Deadly range.

OOC:
Your planes have been hit from two sides, and you're outnumbered at least 3 to 2. That's not much of a fight.
Moreover, how many planes did you use, and how many many are still on the carriers? You had 400, I'm using 650 to attack what lifted off, and I have about 250 planes left.
And I have men throughout the entire border, there's just a lot more on the coast than in other spots.

Groznyj, I wanted to point something before you got involved. This war began when Hataria declared war on me for supporting the Blackhelm Confederacy in this world war that's going throughout NationStates. I don't think you like Blackhelm, so I wanted to point it out.
IC:
Given that the Hatarian planes were outnumbered and outflanked, there really wasn't much of a chance.
Koritari smiled as he heard the updates.
"Third wave, launch!"
The last wave of Imperial planes took off. With the Hatarian planes currently busy, there would be only the ships to stop them.
Groznyj
18-10-2006, 22:16
ooc: actually with my involvment in what potentially may become the 3rd Kraven war, that and all the rl stuff I have going on, I think I should leave this rp b4 I do anything. Just pretend I never showed up.

And icly I wanted to help you so that after we won the war I could bully you into making political decisions that were in favour of me. (ie I would be running your gov't to an extent behind the scenes)
Leafanistan
18-10-2006, 23:38
The guards began to panic. They knew they couldn't hold much longer.
That's when they heard their Captain bark out the order,
"Get the hell outta here!"
The guards fled into their Jeeps and ran for it.
5 miles later, they were suddenly stopped by a convoy of trucks.
The bright light blinding one of them, one of them stammered out "What is the meaning of this?"
The back of the truck opened and men jumped out.
One of the guards gasped. These were no ordinry men. They were taller, infinitely more muscular, and their faces were covered with a breathmask.
These were the Praetorian Guards.

An advance Kraven guard unit a kilometre back sighted the lead truck, its bright lights were an easy target for the Jackhammer. But suddenly, the guard unit stopped and retreated.

The Kraven guard radioed for assistance at the road. Battle Language was efficient in explaining the look of the enemy, the captain of the cargo ship determined it was an elite guard unit. By now the Kreigsmarine had landed and were unloading.

152 Kregismarine (1 KC44 AR, 1 .50 Cal Pistol, 1 18" Bayonet, 2 Frag Grenades)
34 Kreigsmarine Panzerraketentrooper (1 Panzerfaust 3, 1 Corporate Carbine, 1 .50 cal Pistol, 2 Frag Grenades)
10 Kreigsmarine Luftrakententrooper (1 Stinger, 1 Corporate Carbine, 1 .50 cal pistol, 2 Frag Grenades)
44 Kreigsmarine Drivers (1 Corporate Carbine, 1 .50 cal pistol, 2 Smoke Grenades)

16 Panzerspähwagen SdKfz 225s (1 20mm Assault Cannon, 1 Jackhammer Missile, 1 GPMG)
12 Sonderkraftfahrzeug 251 Halftracks (1 GPMG)

A radio transmission went out to Hatarian Forces.

Encrypted Transmission to Hatarian Forces

The Kraven Corporation has laid claim to this territory, interfere not in our conquests and you shall be spared.

[END]

Encrypted Transmission to Griffencrest and Demonic Forces

Attention, the current Kraven infiltrators are an advance guard unit of the Leafanistani Red Mafia. We apologize for the earlier incident, your guards opened fire first, we had to protect our interests.

We have landed ~200 elite troops, we can land even more Kreigsmarine and Kraven troopers. However, we need assistance in securing the port. We have a single transport ship off the coast, and we are moving more:

Advanced Fleet:
20 Transport Ships (Each ship holds a similiar detachment)
12 Krivak-class Frigates
12 Tango-class Submarines
3 Rajput-class Destroyers

We can assistance infantry forces in your war. Just say the word and we'll deploy.

[END]
Demon 666
19-10-2006, 01:26
Hold on, Leafanistan, are you on my side.
Leafanistan
19-10-2006, 03:26
Hold on, Leafanistan, are you on my side.

OOC: Yep, we can land more and more mobile infantry divisions like that to assist you. Just cover us with air strikes and artillery.
Hataria
19-10-2006, 03:58
The Hatarians didn't lissen to Leafanistan's Demand and Continued the war.

The Fighters were Going down, but not out, and The Fleet was now attacking with Anti-Aircraft Missiles. The ABIA-781 A Anti-Aircraft Missile was one of The deadly Hatarian AA Missiles in use by Hataria. The Missile Launchers lock on to the Targets viva Satellites and launched. The enemy was going to get it

Count of Downed planes

57 Planes downed.
Leafanistan
19-10-2006, 04:36
The Hatarians didn't lissen to Leafanistan's Demand and Continued the war.

The Fighters were Going down, but not out, and The Fleet was now attacking with Anti-Aircraft Missiles. The ABIA-781 A Anti-Aircraft Missile was one of The deadly Hatarian AA Missiles in use by Hataria. The Missile Launchers lock on to the Targets viva Satellites and launched. The enemy was going to get it

Count of Downed planes

57 Planes downed.

OOC: Hey, it isn't Leafanistan, it is 'The Kraven Corporation', which in reality is the Leafanistani Red Mafia deploying mercenaries.

More and more ships appeared, and soon more and more 'Kraven troopers' landed. This time supported by Demonic forces. They were building a rudimentary fort, port, and helipad.

Helicopter gunships would soon join them landing more and more forces. An entire battalion.
Demon 666
19-10-2006, 05:52
The Hatarians didn't lissen to Leafanistan's Demand and Continued the war.

The Fighters were Going down, but not out, and The Fleet was now attacking with Anti-Aircraft Missiles. The ABIA-781 A Anti-Aircraft Missile was one of The deadly Hatarian AA Missiles in use by Hataria. The Missile Launchers lock on to the Targets viva Satellites and launched. The enemy was going to get it

Count of Downed planes

57 Planes downed.
OOC:
Can you answer my question again?
You have about 400 planes. Were they all hit in that flank movement, or did you have some planes on their carriers at the time? If so, how many?
IC:
The Praetorian Guards prepared to move in when a courier came bearing a message.
"Stop, stop!"
The lead Praetor turned, completely expressionless,
"Yes?"
Trying to keep himself from crapping his pants, the frightened courier managed to stammer out,
"They said they are on our side. They only fired because we fired first."
The Praetor slammed him in the stomach and watched as the courier buckled over.
Proceeding to one of the guards, the Praetor ordered the guard to figure out what the hell was going on.
However, at the same time, Tenrius had heard the news. Although skeptical, he welcomed the oppurtinity and sent engineers to help the new allies.
Leafanistan
19-10-2006, 07:25
The Praetorian Guards prepared to move in when a courier came bearing a message.
"Stop, stop!"
The lead Praetor turned, completely expressionless,
"Yes?"
Trying to keep himself from crapping his pants, the frightened courier managed to stammer out,
"They said they are on our side. They only fired because we fired first."
The Praetor slammed him in the stomach and watched as the courier buckled over.
Proceeding to one of the guards, the Praetor ordered the guard to figure out what the hell was going on.
However, at the same time, Tenrius had heard the news. Although skeptical, he welcomed the oppurtinity and sent engineers to help the new allies.

The Kraven Trooper just stared, its mechanical breathing just barely audible, a slight hiss and the faint red glow of its eyes burned into the engineers.

A Kreigsmarine walked up and carefully explained the situation.

The Helipad was nearing completion and Hueys painted in Kraven colours had begun landing and loading Scout Cars onto the beachhead. Troops poured in via the landing boats and a tent city was appearing.

A few sIG 33s were on the beach and the 150mm guns were being draped in camoflauge netting.
Hataria
20-10-2006, 16:41
Bump
Undershi
20-10-2006, 18:38
The Undershi cruiser squadron Achilles had been near Demon 666 when the fighting between Hataria and the Undershi Empire broke out. Now they were moving to the aid of that ally, since the thread of war with Hataria no longer kept them out.
Fleet Captain Robert Wylde opened a channel to the Demon 666 naval assets nearest to them:
"Greetings. I'm Fleet Captain Wylde of the Undershi Cruiser Squadron Achilles, and I'm here to help. Tell me where I can go to do the most I can do to hurt the Hatarians!"

This fleet consists of:

- The missile cruiser Achilles
- The missile cruiser Agamemnon
- The cruiser Khruschev
- The cruiser Hector
- The cruiser Paris
- The cruiser Cressida
- The destroyers Tyranny, Menelaus, Oddyseus, LeeII and Elizabeth Bathory.

OOC: Imagine that my guys are coming down from around Siberia...
Questers
20-10-2006, 19:01
OOC: Hataria, an observation on your little cruise missile volley.
Of all the ships you have listed, only destroyers are capable of launching cruise missiles. Subs do not carry cruise missiles. Cruisers don't carry cruise missiles. And Battleships and Fleet Tenders sure as hell don't fire Cruise Missiles.


Um, NO.

Firstly, you don't dictate what weapons his ships carry. Thats for him to decide.

Secondly, the Russian Kirov is a cruiser - or a battlecruiser, both are relevant - and it carries the most deadly anti shipping cruise missile payload in the real world. Many, many, many submarines carry cruise missiles, I will use the Russian Papa Class as an example, which carried SS-N-9s, cruise missiles.

Furthermore, around 99% of NS battleships are equipped with cruise missiles, and even the RL Iowa has 32 BGM-109s in box launchers.

It would also not be impossible for a fleet tender to carry a small number of missiles for self defence, although it is somewhat wasteful and pointless.
Czardas
20-10-2006, 19:07
Besides, even if by some long shot one could prove that real-life examples of such ships cannot fire cruise missiles, who's to say Hataria didn't fit them with cruise missile launchers? In fact he said something like that himself. Never thought I'd be defending Hataria.... jeesh.
Hataria
20-10-2006, 19:32
Besides, even if by some long shot one could prove that real-life examples of such ships cannot fire cruise missiles, who's to say Hataria didn't fit them with cruise missile launchers? In fact he said something like that himself. Never thought I'd be defending Hataria.... jeesh.

*Hugs Czardas*:)
Demon 666
20-10-2006, 20:48
All right, all right.
But at least answer my question on the amount of planes who were on their carriers when I hit that group of planes from two sides (I'm going to assume that in this air battle, you're using all 400 of your planes now)
IC:
As the first 650 planes continued to fight and lose lives (approximately 40 had been shot down, and an additional 10 had been hit with SAMs), the last wave of planes began to arrive.
Their target was simple- the carriers, who had now their planes busy fighting the other 650 planes.
Koritari grimaced as he watched a huge portion of his fleet get decimated by that stupid cruise missile volley.
The carriers, the Herennius, and the AA ships had gotten off fine, but over 80 submarines, 8 destroyers, and 19 frigates, had been destroyed in that wave.
He decided to hold his fire, but turning to the transmission that Undershi had sent him, he responded,
"Get in range of that Hatarian fleet, and then fire every damn missile you've got."
Hataria
20-10-2006, 21:47
All right, all right.
But at least answer my question on the amount of planes who were on their carriers when I hit that group of planes from two sides (I'm going to assume that in this air battle, you're using all 400 of your planes now)
IC:
As the first 650 planes continued to fight and lose lives (approximately 40 had been shot down, and an additional 10 had been hit with SAMs), the last wave of planes began to arrive.
Their target was simple- the carriers, who had now their planes busy fighting the other 650 planes.
Koritari grimaced as he watched a huge portion of his fleet get decimated by that stupid cruise missile volley.
The carriers, the Herennius, and the AA ships had gotten off fine, but over 80 submarines, 8 destroyers, and 19 frigates, had been destroyed in that wave.
He decided to hold his fire, but turning to the transmission that Undershi had sent him, he responded,
"Get in range of that Hatarian fleet, and then fire every damn missile you've got."


190 Planes downed

The Hatarian Ships around The Carriers soon starte fireing off The AA Weapons and also launching Anti-shipping Fire, about 500 Missiles heading for The enemy. But what the enemy would also see would be The hatarian Fleet was at Full Speed, heading right to the enemy Fleet.

They were going to go and attack at Point Blank Range.
Undershi
20-10-2006, 21:55
Fleet Captain Wylde actually laughed when he heard the reply to his message, but ordered his communications officer to send back that he would do so - as quickly as he could.
The Undershi Cruiser Squadron made its way south, angling to link up with the northern-most allied naval forces for action against the northern flank of the Hatarian navy.
As they moved into possition, they radioed Imperial Undershi Navy Command in Undershi City, and got confirmation for a special suprise for the Hatarian navy - as they moved into position, some 80 odd long-range anti-shipping missiles would be targeting the Hatarian fleet in the sector they would attack, hopefully weakening it enough for their offensive to suceed.
Hataria
20-10-2006, 22:05
Fleet Captain Wylde actually laughed when he heard the reply to his message, but ordered his communications officer to send back that he would do so - as quickly as he could.
The Undershi Cruiser Squadron made its way south, angling to link up with the northern-most allied naval forces for action against the northern flank of the Hatarian navy.
As they moved into possition, they radioed Imperial Undershi Navy Command in Undershi City, and got confirmation for a special suprise for the Hatarian navy - as they moved into position, some 80 odd long-range anti-shipping missiles would be targeting the Hatarian fleet in the sector they would attack, hopefully weakening it enough for their offensive to suceed.

Princess Galaxia saw that the Undershi Fleet was around and decided to end the Small Fleet by a all out attack. No Curiser, Missile Curiser or Destroyer was a Match for a Shogun Class Grand Battleship.

The Nadia and 17 Destroyers were soon heading off from the Main Fleet and was going to go around, Still Fireing Anti-Aircraft fire.
Undershi
20-10-2006, 22:27
Fleet Captain Wylde saw the incoming enemy squadron on the radar, and cursed. He knew what was going to happen if those ships were allowed to get within even missile range of his squadron... he knew it was a long shot, but he did it anyway - the missiles fired off to weaken the Hatarian fleet could still be re-aimed... and so they were - all 80 of these long-range anti-shipping missiles would now be targeting that squadron. They would hit the enemy before he would have to decide on a course of action... and, hopefully, they would do enough damage to make a difference...
Hataria
20-10-2006, 22:58
What The enemy should have known was that The Squadron was in Range. The Nadia Fired first, Launching 5 VC-89 Sea Wasp Anti-shipping Missiles
from each of it's 30 Missile Launchers and launching 4 Threshers at the Undershi Fleet. The Destroyers fired 10 Reaper-56 Missiles to go with the Attack.

The Squadron headed for The Undershi Ships at Full Speed

OOC: The Shogun Class Grand Battleship is The Hatarian Version of Questers Hood
Questers
20-10-2006, 23:02
Yes, and its about ten times worse and would probably fall apart the moment you launched it, since your nation has neither the maritime technology base nor infastructure to mantain one, yet alone two, vessels of such size.
Undershi
21-10-2006, 03:02
OOC: I launched a missile bombardment against your super-battleship that would have hit before it came into range of my cruiser squadron - remember those 80 missiles? They were launched from silos in Undershi, and are really big conventional warhead ballistic missiles meant to do nasty things to ships like your battleship - what did they do? Once you post that, then I'll tell you what my cruiser squadron does/suffers.
Hataria
21-10-2006, 03:27
OOC: I launched a missile bombardment against your super-battleship that would have hit before it came into range of my cruiser squadron - remember those 80 missiles? They were launched from silos in Undershi, and are really big conventional warhead ballistic missiles meant to do nasty things to ships like your battleship - what did they do? Once you post that, then I'll tell you what my cruiser squadron does/suffers.

OOC: I would call that godmod.......but I will see what others will say

In The Meen time, your missiles are Going over Japan if i am right so.....

IC: the enemy missiles soon hit a Wall.......from Outer Space. This was in fact Anti-Missile Satellites over Japan. The Satellites launched 12 Missiles of each (30 Satellites are fireing if you like to know.) and intercepted 77 of then, leaveing Three........only for a ABM (Anti-Ballistic Missile) to smash into one of The Missiles. the ABM was armed with a Nuclear Warhead and The Shock wave knocked the others off coruse.
Questers
21-10-2006, 03:38
Edit: why would you ICBM a ship -.-
Hataria
21-10-2006, 03:40
No Hataria, you can't use ABMs against anti shipping missiles.

Go too Undershi's OOC Post above mine, he said they were launched from Undershi it self, not his Ships.
Demon 666
21-10-2006, 05:36
Yes, and its about ten times worse and would probably fall apart the moment you launched it, since your nation has neither the maritime technology base nor infastructure to mantain one, yet alone two, vessels of such size.

OOC: Can you describe this Hood ship? After all, the Herennius, our mega-battleship, isn't actually that big and definitely couldn't beat a ship like what the Hood sounds like-it's more of a command ship.
IIC:
Planes from the first and second wave began to take serious damage from the anti-aircraft missiles, though nothing serious. With more than half of the Hatarian planes, things were going well.
The third wave had finally reached the planes, and 500 anti-ship missiles were now unleashed within a mere 15 km from the Hatarian ships. There wouldn't be much time for an anti-missile defense.
Questers
21-10-2006, 13:50
Yes, Hataria, thats why I edited my post.

Demon666, you're pretty damn right I can describe it, since I wrote 6,500 words on it here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=493695), and yes, you're right - no offence, but no vessel mantained by a 1.5 billion nation will be able to sink a Hood unless the commander has the brain power of a monkey, or Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. This is, quite simply, the most powerful single vessel afloat, though there are about three ships that could possibly sink it, which I won't name. The concept of a supercapital is that a very large natiojn with a very long maritime history will be able to create a supercapital and you will have to build very many before you actually build a powerful one, which is why Hatarias is crap and I ignore it anyway because he can't even make up his own stats for it.

This sounds pretty cocky, but trust me, it's not an exaggeration.
Undershi
21-10-2006, 16:53
OOC: I used long-range anti-shipping missiles which are realy, realy big, and designed to be able to kill big battleships with one hit. The reason I launched them from land based bases is that they are, quite simply, too freaking big to fit on ships.
Undershi
21-10-2006, 16:56
Fleet Captain Wylde looked at the radar display, and cursed softly - every single one of the missiles that had been launched from Undershi to strike that massive battleship that now approached had been wasted. It seemed like it would be time to show that discretion really was the better part of valor... perhaps they could lead the battleship away from the fighting... he nodded to himself, then gave the order. The Undershi cruiser squadron would stay at the maximum range for missile engagement, and lead the enemy on a merry chase, all the while sending missile fire off against his forces... it just might work, it just might...

(OOC: This means that the Undershi fleet it heading north, and trying to get the battleship to follow them, so that it can't contribute to the fighting to the south)
Hataria
21-10-2006, 18:58
Fleet Captain Wylde looked at the radar display, and cursed softly - every single one of the missiles that had been launched from Undershi to strike that massive battleship that now approached had been wasted. It seemed like it would be time to show that discretion really was the better part of valor... perhaps they could lead the battleship away from the fighting... he nodded to himself, then gave the order. The Undershi cruiser squadron would stay at the maximum range for missile engagement, and lead the enemy on a merry chase, all the while sending missile fire off against his forces... it just might work, it just might...

(OOC: This means that the Undershi fleet it heading north, and trying to get the battleship to follow them, so that it can't contribute to the fighting to the south)


Galaxia was no fool and decided to head strait for The Demonic Fleet. The Squadron was soon turing to meet the enemy head on.

OOC: oh and Undershi, what of my Missile Attack?
Czardas
21-10-2006, 19:41
Demon666, you're pretty damn right I can describe it, since I wrote 6,500 words on it here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=493695), and yes, you're right - no offence, but no vessel mantained by a 1.5 billion nation will be able to sink a Hood unless the commander has the brain power of a monkey, or Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. This is, quite simply, the most powerful single vessel afloat, though there are about three ships that could possibly sink it, which I won't name. The concept of a supercapital is that a very large natiojn with a very long maritime history will be able to create a supercapital and you will have to build very many before you actually build a powerful one, which is why Hatarias is crap and I ignore it anyway because he can't even make up his own stats for it.

And all of those three ships are maintained by allies or at least friendly/neutral nations to Questaria. -.-

Admittedly, if a nation of 1.5 billion was a particularly good tactician, they could sink a Hood conventionally with smaller battleships, cruisers, destroyers, submarines, and aircraft. Problem is they would have to have a whole lot of the above, they'd have to deal with its escorts first, and it would take a really long time.

There are some MT/PMT weapons besides nukes that could work as well, such as NPGs, but I think Matt ignores those most of the time.

@Hataria: Don't think I'm doing any of this to defend you. I argue against idiocy and ignorance in all its forms, whether it's the Shogun Class Grand Battleship or Demon 666's post or the aircraft of Sparta Infensus or Ted Stevens, or just about anything else.
Hataria
22-10-2006, 01:11
Bumpish
Undershi
22-10-2006, 01:24
The Hatarian missile bombardment was coming in from extreme range, so the Undershi counter-missile radar got a good chance to observe them before the actual counter-missiles were launched - six counter-missiles to target each of the incoming missiles.
Out of the 164 Hatarian missiles, 57 got through the counter-missiles. Then it was time for the remaining missiles to run the gauntlet of Undershi CIWS fire, and to penetrate Undershi ECM... the CIWS fire of the cruiser squadron brought down another 27 of the Hatarian missiles, while ECM made twelve fall not upon the ships of the squadron, but rather into the sea. Still, that left 18 Hatarian missiles that penetrated. The destroyers Elizabeth Bathory and LeeII, along with the missile cruiser Agamemnon and the cruiser Paris were all destroyed, while every other ship in the squadron except for the flah-ship, the Achilles, suffered at least minor damage.
As the Hatarian vessels turned around, the Undershi counter-fire, all 42 of their missiles, followed them. The Undershi ships would not, however - their part in the fighting was over for now, as they waited to the north of the main engagement, repairing what damage they could and fishing survivors from the destroyed ships out of the water. They would return to the fighting though, eventually... they had, after all, a score to settle...
Hataria
22-10-2006, 01:44
The Hatarian missile bombardment was coming in from extreme range, so the Undershi counter-missile radar got a good chance to observe them before the actual counter-missiles were launched - six counter-missiles to target each of the incoming missiles.
Out of the 164 Hatarian missiles, 57 got through the counter-missiles. Then it was time for the remaining missiles to run the gauntlet of Undershi CIWS fire, and to penetrate Undershi ECM... the CIWS fire of the cruiser squadron brought down another 27 of the Hatarian missiles, while ECM made twelve fall not upon the ships of the squadron, but rather into the sea. Still, that left 18 Hatarian missiles that penetrated. The destroyers Elizabeth Bathory and LeeII, along with the missile cruiser Agamemnon and the cruiser Paris were all destroyed, while every other ship in the squadron except for the flah-ship, the Achilles, suffered at least minor damage.
As the Hatarian vessels turned around, the Undershi counter-fire, all 42 of their missiles, followed them. The Undershi ships would not, however - their part in the fighting was over for now, as they waited to the north of the main engagement, repairing what damage they could and fishing survivors from the destroyed ships out of the water. They would return to the fighting though, eventually... they had, after all, a score to settle...

The Hatarian Ships soon used their own CIWS fire on the Undership Missiles, takeing out 40 missiles, but two hit The Destroyer Manicore and Damaged it.

Bad Mistake for Undershi as the Squadron turned back to the Undershi Ships and launched 50 Missiles at them.

and for more bad news, The Hataria, 40 Empire Class Destroyers and 20 Sharktooth Class Battleships sailed out of Tokyo and was heading for The Battle
Hataria
22-10-2006, 03:40
Bump
Undershi
22-10-2006, 04:50
Fleet Captain Wylde cursed softly as he watched the display screens, watched the satelite footage of the Hatarian fleet heading straight for his little squadron. As occasionally happened when things went from bad to worse, he found himself unable to keep from laughing, at least to himself - even if they hadn't done much damage to the Hatarian fleet, they certainly had distracted them from their ally's fleet...
It looked like it was time to run. The Undershi fleet, having picked up all of the survivors it was likely to find, turned tail and fled the Hatarian fleet, heading to the north, back towards Undershi... via a crossing of the Arctic Ocean.
Hopefully all the losses they had suffered might mean something for their allies...

Results from the Missiles

The fifty new missiles were met with a total of three hundred counter-missiles. Still, some got through - eighteen to be exact. Those that did met Undershi CIWS fire - and that stopped another forteen of them. That left four... and of those four, Undershi ECM diverted only one... the other three did damage - the destroyer Tyranny was smashed, lost with all hands in the icy waters of the Arctic Ocean. Additionally, light damage was suffered by the Cressida. The remnants of the Undershi fleet managed a paltry volley of return fire as they fled at the best speeds they could manage - only 24 Undershi missiles raced off to fall upon the Hatarian fleet as it persued them.

Fleet Captain Wylde laughed in sheer horror as he watched the damage the Hatarians had inflicted on his squadron grow. Still, he had accomplished something, he hoped... he signaled for his radio opperator to send a message to the allied fleet command:
"Alright. It looks like I'm leading a few of their squadrons on a merry chase... I hope you can exploit that, because my squadron isn't likely to have much else to do with the fighting in this sector. We wish you luck... because, from what we've seen of the Hatarian fleet, you're going to need it."
Hataria
22-10-2006, 05:41
The Squadron soon headed back to The Battle with Demon 666, driveing The Undershi Ships away.

But Damage to the Main Fleet was large, 12 Destroyers, 10 Battleships, 2 Carriers and 10 Cruisers were sunk, The Subs were fireing Long Ranged Malaich-56 Seeker Torpedoes at the enemy Fleet.

219 Planes were downed
Demon 666
23-10-2006, 23:53
I'm not going to be able to post for a while- let's say that I'm really sick, and I really shouldn't be writing this, but I just wanted to tell you guys.
Questers
24-10-2006, 00:39
[OOC: This is sad, because Undershi's naval RPing >>>>>>>> Hatarias, but Hataria has about six times as many ships =( I guess undershi could still claim strategic victory for killing so much more than he's lost.]
Hataria
24-10-2006, 00:51
OOC: Yep. even though Undershi is a Pain in The Ass at Times. It was more of a Tie.
Questers
24-10-2006, 01:29
HMS Senshoukoku

The submarine loitered low at the bottom of the pacific ocean, immobile, 45,000 tons of titanium and steel, moving at 2 knots along the lonely part of the pacific trench. The Captain, a one Iko Mizumika, was a very bored individual. Her submarine had been on this patrol route for almost two months and even worse she wasn't packing heat! No, the idiots at Singapore had fucked around with her precious nukes and now she was carrying the anti shipping variant. Mizumika scowled every time she thought of it. As a Captain of an SSBN, she could walk into the submariners bar, the HMS Senshoukoku, SBN 764 cap on, and every man in there would know she had more power at her fingertips than they'd ever have. She chuckled at the fact. She lay back in the skippers seat and closed her eyes.

'Hm. Looks like there's a battle going on up there.'

Mizumika opened one eye. 'What?'

'I said, skipper, it looks like there's a battle going on up there.'

'Oh really. Between who, a cod and a kipper?', closing the eye.

Mizumika winced. She knew those fisih didn't even exist in the pacific. Thinking of home too much...

'Er, no skipper. Actually between Hataria and someone.'

'Hataria?' Mizumika opened the eye again.

'Uh huh. We can hear that Black Pearl from down here. Noisy as hell.'

'You sure?'

'Aye skipper. Got it on the chart here. This thing has every single Supercapital in the world registered on it. Damn, this thing is loud for its distance. Probably can confirm from GPS actually.'

'Hmm. How far away are we?'

'Six and a half klicks, ma'am.'

'Hmm... Rise to four hundred, accelerate to 13, and get me a link to Singapore.'

Fifty minutes later, the submarine had confirmed it was the Black Pearl, got confirmation from Singapore, and was five hundred below the ocean.

'WO, prep cells one through twenty four.'

Mizumika grinned. Back in action!

'Aye skipper. Prepped, missiles locking. Feeding GPS.'

'Alright. Let em loose.' The sub shaked as the first missile went into action, then the next, and with small breaks they were soon streaming up into the sky, the rocket boosters activating and chucking the rockets up the machs, and within no time they were at mach 7 - and streaming towards the Hatarian ships. Because of the close range they were engaging at, the missiles would be peaking at mach 11 and streaming into the Hatarian Black Pearl's turrets at 35 degrees, with their 2250kg payload.

'Time to get out of here. Take us back to Singapore, and fast. Get deep too.'
Hataria
24-10-2006, 01:48
HMS Senshoukoku

The submarine loitered low at the bottom of the pacific ocean, immobile, 45,000 tons of titanium and steel, moving at 2 knots along the lonely part of the pacific trench. The Captain, a one Iko Mizumika, was a very bored individual. Her submarine had been on this patrol route for almost two months and even worse she wasn't packing heat! No, the idiots at Singapore had fucked around with her precious nukes and now she was carrying the anti shipping variant. Mizumika scowled every time she thought of it. As a Captain of an SSBN, she could walk into the submariners bar, the HMS Senshoukoku, SBN 764 cap on, and every man in there would know she had more power at her fingertips than they'd ever have. She chuckled at the fact. She lay back in the skippers seat and closed her eyes.

'Hm. Looks like there's a battle going on up there.'

Mizumika opened one eye. 'What?'

'I said, skipper, it looks like there's a battle going on up there.'

'Oh really. Between who, a cod and a kipper?', closing the eye.

Mizumika winced. She knew those fisih didn't even exist in the pacific. Thinking of home too much...

'Er, no skipper. Actually between Hataria and someone.'

'Hataria?' Mizumika opened the eye again.

'Uh huh. We can hear that Black Dragon from down here. Noisy as hell.'

'You sure?'

'Aye skipper. Got it on the chart here. This thing has every single Supercapital in the world registered on it. Damn, this thing is loud for its distance. Probably can confirm from GPS actually.'

'Hmm. How far away are we?'

'Six and a half klicks, ma'am.'

'Hmm... Rise to four hundred, accelerate to 13, and get me a link to Singapore.'

Fifty minutes later, the submarine had confirmed it was the Black Dragon, got confirmation from Singapore, and was five hundred below the ocean.

'WO, prep cells one through twenty four.'

Mizumika grinned. Back in action!

'Aye skipper. Prepped, missiles locking. Feeding GPS.'

'Alright. Let em loose.' The sub shaked as the first missile went into action, then the next, and with small breaks they were soon streaming up into the sky, the rocket boosters activating and chucking the rockets up the machs, and within no time they were at mach 7 - and streaming towards the Hatarian ships. Because of the close range they were engaging at, the missiles would be peaking at mach 11 and streaming into the Hatarian Black Dragon's turrets at 35 degrees, with their 2250kg payload.

'Time to get out of here. Take us back to Singapore, and fast. Get deep too.'

The Black Pearl was hit and Damaged heavy. This attack caused the Admiral to order The Subs to serach for The Attacker or attackers.

The INS Orca a Tangalee Class Attack Sub Spotted The sub viva SONAR. The Orca Soon Started a Chase after the unknown Sub.
Questers
24-10-2006, 01:57
How can you spot an SSBN on sonar from 5,000 KM away?
Undershi
24-10-2006, 17:09
Undershi Naval Headquarters, Undershi City, The Undershi Empire

"It's confirmed then?" the Grand Admiral asked, as he leaned in over the map table. The IIS Major across from him nodded, and gestured for the Air Marshal to speak, which he did:
"That is correct. Following the cassualties suffered by your cruiser squadron, Aleksander Miller himself sent a communique to Strategic Command, stating that it was a matter of national pride that we sink the Hatarian super-capital that inflicted those losses. As such," he continued, a smirk forming on his face, "we are preparing a bombing attack. A Flight or two of Golden Eagles loaded with heavy anti-shipping ordanence should prove a match for any surface navy vessel." the Grand Admiral bristled at that, and seemed about to make a reply when the IIS Major motioned for him to be silent, and began to explain:
"We are prepared for a major opperation. The current invasion of the League is occupying most of our aerial assets, but we have made some available. We're talking about one hundred and twenty Golden Eagle heavy bombers and sixty Lightning interceptors." the IIS man paused for emphasis, then continued:
"With that much fire power, any capital ships on the planet would be doomed. Especially," he continued, with a forceful gesture for emphasis, "when one considers that it has recently been damaged by a missile attack launched by our 'allies' in that region. This issue is decided - I speak with the authority of Aleksander Miller himself." that ended discussion and debate, and soon the plan was confirmed. The Hatarians would suffer...

Damoclese Air Base, Just West of Undershi City

Senior Flight Leader Matthew Clark watched the Golden Eagles of his strike force prepare for launch. He felt justifiable pride as he watched, knowing that they would strike to avenge the insult delt to Undershi pride so recently. Sure, what with all of the wars Undershi was in right now it seemed somewhat of a waste, no action that would hurt and enemy was a waste. The first of the heavy bombers began to taxi into launch positions, and he smilled, sure as he did so that there would be empty bunks tonight... but that the Hatarians would feel a loss much more severe...
Hataria
24-10-2006, 19:08
While Undershi was planning it's Attack, In Japan, The Hatarians were soon launching their own Air Campaign. 567 RAGI-17 Intercepters and 710 Niamian-190 Land Based Bombers were takeing off to engage the Demonic Fleet. The Bombers has 200 Ton Bombs ready to drop on the Target: The enemy Supercapital Ship


But the Battle was going to turn as The Hataria and it's Sqaudron joined up with the Main Fleet.

Three Shogun Class Grand Battleships were deadly in Battle

Edit: the Bombs are 200 Tons. The Niamian Bombers carry 14 of them
Hataria
25-10-2006, 02:55
Bump for later
Questers
25-10-2006, 03:02
The Bombers has 900 Ton Bombs ready to drop on the Target: The enemy Supercapital Ship

How can a bomber hold a weapon 7.5 times the size of a B-52?
The Transylvania
25-10-2006, 03:19
How can a bomber hold a weapon 7.5 times the size of a B-52?

OOC: It’s one of those super heavyweight bomber maybe. I want to know about that too.
Questers
25-10-2006, 03:48
No aircraft can carry a 900 ton bomb... even I know that...
The Transylvania
25-10-2006, 03:54
No aircraft can carry a 900 ton bomb... even I know that...

OOC: Then maybe it is a typo, or I hope it is a typo. And I was joking about the super heavyweight bomber part.
Czardas
25-10-2006, 13:48
How can a bomber hold a weapon 7.5 times the size of a B-52?

Hataria, have you been poking around in Mei's stuff again? *glares*
Hataria
25-10-2006, 17:56
OOC: (*&&^ Typo
Questers
25-10-2006, 18:32
Why does your bomb STILL weigh more than a B-52?
Czardas
25-10-2006, 19:43
And apparently your bombers have a payload of 2,548,000 kg... which would make their empty weight around 10,192,000 kg, and their loaded weight something over 25,000,000 kg... so you're looking at a bomber about 120 times larger than a B-52, and thus with a length of about 5.86 km, a wingspan of 6.8 km, and a height of 1.5 km. In other words, a bomber that could carry 14 180,000 kg bombs would be several times larger than the HMS Hood, and would probably require a few thousand fusion reactors to power, cost several millenia's worth of military budgets, and be crewed by the entire population of Aralonia. It would also travel really slow and could be shot down by an ICBM. (Nevermind that an airframe that big would snap the instant it moved because of the very air pressure.)

Be reasonable, ok?
Undershi
26-10-2006, 00:25
Over the "Pacific" Ocean

Matthew Clarck watched nervously as the way-point marker counted down the distance to the Attack Point. The entire Undershi aerial armada would make its strike at once, in the hope of overwhelming the Hatarian anti-missile defenses. That hope seemed likely when the sheer number of Undershi aircraft were considered.
The way-point marker counted down. He sighed - it was going to be a long few hours...
Demon 666
26-10-2006, 01:34
While Undershi was planning it's Attack, In Japan, The Hatarians were soon launching their own Air Campaign. 567 RAGI-17 Intercepters and 710 Niamian-190 Land Based Bombers were takeing off to engage the Demonic Fleet. The Bombers has 200 Ton Bombs ready to drop on the Target: The enemy Supercapital Ship


But the Battle was going to turn as The Hataria and it's Sqaudron joined up with the Main Fleet.

Three Shogun Class Grand Battleships were deadly in Battle

Edit: the Bombs are 200 Tons. The Niamian Bombers carry 14 of them

OOC: Sorry about the delay. Have had a really nasty cold, and yeah.
And Hataria, for the last time, explain your attack on the Manchurian border From what I'n reading, you've magically created a hole in my line.
IC:
The first and second wave of fighters decided it was time and headed back to the carriers to rearm and refuel.
The remaining final wave of bombers took up the dogfight, hoping to kill the badly damaged Hatarian planes.
Meanwhile, some small reinforcements had arrived, mostly in the form of Frigates and destroyers. Koritari ordered the ships damaged by the cruise missile volley to leave, and had the new ships fill in.
"Men, are the missiles ready?"
"Yessir"
"Then fire at those damned Chink sons-of-bitches!"

The Kraven Trooper just stared, its mechanical breathing just barely audible, a slight hiss and the faint red glow of its eyes burned into the engineers.

A Kreigsmarine walked up and carefully explained the situation.

The Helipad was nearing completion and Hueys painted in Kraven colours had begun landing and loading Scout Cars onto the beachhead. Troops poured in via the landing boats and a tent city was appearing.

A few sIG 33s were on the beach and the 150mm guns were being draped in camoflauge netting.
The guard immeiadately reported back to the Praetors, who after having, looked at each other, went and walked off.
An engineering corps had arrived to aid Kraven in supporting the amphibious landing.
John Travolta was personally disgusted. The Empire had long hated Kraven and feared Father, and most of the citizens of the Empire felt the same way too. But this was war, and war called for unpleasant things. Pausing to examine a camouflaged machine gun, he began unloading various supplies and equipment.
Leafanistan
26-10-2006, 01:38
The guard immeiadately reported back to the Praetors, who after having, looked at each other, went and walked off.
An engineering corps had arrived to aid Kraven in supporting the amphibious landing.
John Travolta was personally disgusted. The Empire had long hated Kraven and feared Father, and most of the citizens of the Empire felt the same way too. But this was war, and war called for unpleasant things. Pausing to examine a camouflaged machine gun, he began unloading various supplies and equipment.

OOC: You can take over my units, about 160 Kraven troopers, hundreds of Kreigsmarine mercs, and dozens of armoured scout cars, half-tracks, and artillery guns. Enjoy.
Hataria
26-10-2006, 05:38
OOC: Sorry about the delay. Have had a really nasty cold, and yeah.
And Hataria, for the last time, explain your attack on the Manchurian border From what I'n reading, you've magically created a hole in my line.


OOC: The Army came over land, they headed Northwest to The Manchurian/Mongolian Borader, then headed East to were you were.
Undershi
26-10-2006, 17:25
Over the Hatarian Fleet

The massive Undershi aerial armada had found their target. Flight Leader Matthew Clark nervously rolled his neck as the Golden Eagles began droping their anti-shipping ordinence, a massive wave of fire-power heading straight for the already-damaged Hatarian super-capital. They would hurt it - that much he hoped, that much he knew... whether or not they would kill it... that much remained to be seen, even if they were using so much fire power that the High Command had spoke of overkill.
Soon the Hatarian AA fire would begin hitting them, and then he would see what a super-capital could do to attacking bombers... in the airforce academy, he had heard the instructors talk about how the era of the surface navy was over, save as a means of protecting aircraft carriers, and provinding them with additional AA defense. He had heard them decry the expense of every one of the last few remaining Undershi battle-ships... and he had believed what they had said, until he had seen the Hatarian ship they were going to attack. If these realy were the last days of the surface navy, then they would be impressive last days, and likely would be fatal last days for a good number of pilots...
The attack began, the bombs and missiles and torpedoes started in towards the water or their targets, depending on design... and Matthew Clark felt fear, bubbling up from the pit of his stomach, as the Hatarian AA fire came up from the sea...
Hataria
26-10-2006, 18:15
Over the Hatarian Fleet

The massive Undershi aerial armada had found their target. Flight Leader Matthew Clark nervously rolled his neck as the Golden Eagles began droping their anti-shipping ordinence, a massive wave of fire-power heading straight for the already-damaged Hatarian super-capital. They would hurt it - that much he hoped, that much he knew... whether or not they would kill it... that much remained to be seen, even if they were using so much fire power that the High Command had spoke of overkill.
Soon the Hatarian AA fire would begin hitting them, and then he would see what a super-capital could do to attacking bombers... in the airforce academy, he had heard the instructors talk about how the era of the surface navy was over, save as a means of protecting aircraft carriers, and provinding them with additional AA defense. He had heard them decry the expense of every one of the last few remaining Undershi battle-ships... and he had believed what they had said, until he had seen the Hatarian ship they were going to attack. If these realy were the last days of the surface navy, then they would be impressive last days, and likely would be fatal last days for a good number of pilots...
The attack began, the bombs and missiles and torpedoes started in towards the water or their targets, depending on design... and Matthew Clark felt fear, bubbling up from the pit of his stomach, as the Hatarian AA fire came up from the sea...

the Hatarians were not going to let Undershi have it's Revenge, as Not only was heavy AA fire (Enough to destroy 300,000 Undershi Planes ten times over) but The Hatarian Planes that were sent to take out the Demonic Megabattleship was now behind the Undershi Planes.

The Fighters soon started engageing Undershi's Planes while The Bombers were heading for The demonic Fleet.

10 Ships (mainly 9 Destroyers and a Cruiser.) were sunk and 378 Planes wer downed by the Demonic Planes. But Tropedoes and Missiles of the Undershi Planes were met with Anti-Missile and Anti-Torpedo Defenses, not much to do against Bombs but Most of the Fleet wasn't hit, save for the 10 ships and minor Damage on 20 Destroyers, one carrier and The Black Pearl.

But Things were about to get worse for The Demonic Fleet.....

The Nadia and The Hataria were heading for the enemy Fleet, blating away with Guns and Missiles.
Demon 666
27-10-2006, 00:39
the Hatarians were not going to let Undershi have it's Revenge, as Not only was heavy AA fire (Enough to destroy 300,000 Undershi Planes ten times over)
OOC: I'm calling god-mod on that. I doubt the entire Imperial Navy and all the AA installments on land I have in place could take down 3 million planes, much less one of your fleets having that sort of firepower.
Second, regarding your response to how you outflanked me:
You went around me by going into some random neutral country?
IC:
Koritari smiled as he watched the first of the Imperial planes return from their busy work. Holding a pair of binoculars, he watched as drones in the carrier Yerellkov removed the pilot, while others went to work refueling and rearming the ship.
He clicked on the radio broadcast
"I'm proud of you men, but the battle has yet to be won. I'm sorry to announce that you'll be-"
"Admiral Koritari!"
The Admiral abruptly turned around to find one of the radar operators below him. He looked like he had been running for quite a while.
"Admiral, you need to come here and look at this!"
Koritari went down to the radar station where a group of operators stared at the screens,
"Hataria has sent another group to attack us!"
"How many ships?"
"Two"
"Just two? What the hell are those Hatarian idiots thinking?"
"You might to look at these ships, sir."
Just one glance at the map was enough. Hataria was really pulling shit out of its ass- those two battleships were huge, far bigger than the Herennius
He pulled out the private radio and contacted the carriers.
"The planes will be fit to go in about 10 minutes, but the pilots-"
"Damn the condition of the pilots! I need them to get and wreck those two ships now!"
Koritari swore and cabled Tenarius-
"I'm requesting that Plan Hellfire be enacted immeidately
Hataria
27-10-2006, 00:52
OOC: I'm calling god-mod on that. I doubt the entire Imperial Navy and all the AA installments on land I have in place could take down 3 million planes, much less one of your fleets having that sort of firepower.
Second, regarding your response to how you outflanked me:
You went around me by going into some random neutral country?
IC:
Koritari smiled as he watched the first of the Imperial planes return from their busy work. Holding a pair of binoculars, he watched as drones in the carrier Yerellkov removed the pilot, while others went to work refueling and rearming the ship.
He clicked on the radio broadcast
"I'm proud of you men, but the battle has yet to be won. I'm sorry to announce that you'll be-"
"Admiral Koritari!"
The Admiral abruptly turned around to find one of the radar operators below him. He looked like he had been running for quite a while.
"Admiral, you need to come here and look at this!"
Koritari went down to the radar station where a group of operators stared at the screens,
"Hataria has sent another group to attack us!"
"How many ships?"
"Two"
"Just two? What the hell are those Hatarian idiots thinking?"
"You might to look at these ships, sir."
Just one glance at the map was enough. Hataria was really pulling shit out of its ass- those two battleships were huge, far bigger than the Herennius
He pulled out the private radio and contacted the carriers.
"The planes will be fit to go in about 10 minutes, but the pilots-"
"Damn the condition of the pilots! I need them to get and wreck those two ships now!"
Koritari swore and cabled Tenarius-
"I'm requesting that Plan Hellfire be enacted immeidately

on the bridge of the Hataria

Grand Admiral Ryu soon got Orders from Princess Galaxia, who was on The Nadia to Ready The Anti-Missile, Anti-Torpedoes and Anti-Air defenses. The Two Ships continued, Blasting at any Enemy Ship in their way.

on The Nadia

Galaxia soon send a radio messenge to The enemy Ships

Demonic Fleet! You are Out matched and doomed, your Nation will Fall and Hataria will Span the World. But Know that I, Crown Princess Galaxia, First in Line to The Peacock Throne and Commander of all Asia, will give you an Honorable Warrior's death, PREPARE!!!!!!

The Two Ships continued on there way.
Demon 666
27-10-2006, 01:02
A few people chuckled at the message, but the grim air quickly stifled them.

"Access for Plan |Hellfire granted. Please enter the correct verse."
Koritari grimaced and began typing
"In the name of the holy Emperors, and all that is great powerful, I, Admiral Koritari, a servant of Arthur Tenarius, the Imperial Emperor of Demon 666, request that Plan Hellfire be implemented.
83117143"
Koritari sighed. If this failed, well, then they were truly in deep shit.
Blackhelm Confederacy
27-10-2006, 01:19
"This is Admiral Lucius Ironclaw, with the GNF 1st Fleet. We are here to assist the CA fleet currently issueing a beating to the Hatarian Imperial Navy. Fellow Admirals, I assure you victory. Success in The World Soviet Party, my former post, as well as in Icovir and my home nation itself has already struck blows to the anti-CA forces. Let's give 'em one more thing to cry about shall we?"

That announcement was sent out to the Admirals of the CA or CA allied navies in the area. The Griffincrest First Security Fleet was now in just a few miles of the Sea of Japan. The fleet was ready for a rumble with the Hatarians. Each and every mercenary sailor, all veterans from whatever countries they came from, all had one thing one thei mind. Victory. It seemed to them like the CA would not be stopped, and army after army, fleet after fleet would be returned to the hell they came from. This was what they were determined to do to the Hatarian fleet.

The captain of the flagship of the First Fleet, a Kraken class dreadnought by the name of "Thievery", looked nervously out to the vast sea ahead of him. At all four points around him, he saw Homeland class battleships, fresh from Leafanistans stocks. Throughout the fleet, he counted ten in all, including the four around his own ship. Further out were the somewhat older DMG built Chieftain class pocket battleships. Of these, he saw at least twenty, possibly more, gliding over the waves. Further out still, forty Rajput class destroyers held their duty as a torpedo/missile screen, and they did their job well. "Sir, how much air support do we have?" the captain asked the older admiral.

"Darkbreath, isn't this your ship?" the Admiral replied.
"Uh, yes sir, I don't quite recall though, sir" Captain Darkbreath replied.
"We have sixty Gnats, twenty F-4 Phantom II's, and twenty F-14 Tomcats, captain"
Blackhelm Confederacy
27-10-2006, 02:06
Admiral Ironclaw had intercepted the transmission about the Hatarian crown princess being aboard one of the battleships sent to attack the Demonic fleet, and could only think one word, idiots. He immediatly ordered the one hundred Hong-5 bombers based in Demon 666 to deploy. Each one carried aboard it ten Bladerunner torpedoes. The torpedoes would be deployed from fifty miles out, and a course was set for the Hatarian ship The Nadia. As it began to move away from the rest of the fleet, the chances of the torpedoes being stopped decreased with each yard.

The Bladerunners were tested in the Four Corners war against TPF and Wanderjarian vessels, and then used to much success against TPF and Crucible fleets during the invasion of the Confederacy. These torpedoes were designed to cut through thick armour. In fact, they actually had a massive circular saw on them just for that purpose. Once sawing their way through the armour, the Bladerunner will set a course towards a pre-determined destination within the enemy vessel, slicing anyone or anything in its way to ribbons, before detonating, hopefully splitting the ship in half. With one thousand of these weapons (the most ever deployed at once by Griffincrest) tearing through the water at 75 Knots, the chances of The Nadia's survival were slim.
Hataria
27-10-2006, 15:52
Admiral Ironclaw had intercepted the transmission about the Hatarian crown princess being aboard one of the battleships sent to attack the Demonic fleet, and could only think one word, idiots. He immediatly ordered the one hundred Hong-5 bombers based in Demon 666 to deploy. Each one carried aboard it ten Bladerunner torpedoes. The torpedoes would be deployed from fifty miles out, and a course was set for the Hatarian ship The Nadia. As it began to move away from the rest of the fleet, the chances of the torpedoes being stopped decreased with each yard.

The Bladerunners were tested in the Four Corners war against TPF and Wanderjarian vessels, and then used to much success against TPF and Crucible fleets during the invasion of the Confederacy. These torpedoes were designed to cut through thick armour. In fact, they actually had a massive circular saw on them just for that purpose. Once sawing their way through the armour, the Bladerunner will set a course towards a pre-determined destination within the enemy vessel, slicing anyone or anything in its way to ribbons, before detonating, hopefully splitting the ship in half. With one thousand of these weapons (the most ever deployed at once by Griffincrest) tearing through the water at 75 Knots, the chances of The Nadia's survival were slim.

Blackhelm should have been known that unlike The Ships they fought in those Wars, Hatarian Ship Armor wasn't like any other, Namely Being a Titanium/Steel alloy and thicker then The Armor on TPF and Crucible Ships.

Anti-Torpedo Defenses were already ready for the enemy Torpedoes. takeing them out, and it wasn't just From The Nadia The Hataria was where most of The bania-89 Anti-Torpedo Missiles were Coming from, intercepting the enemy Torps.

The Hatarian Bombers were soon starting to head for The Demonic Fleet while The Escourt fighters were engageing The Undership Bombers (OOC: Cheek The Post were I sent The Bombers from Japan with Fighters a Page back) The Bombers targeted one Ship, The Megaship.
Undershi
27-10-2006, 17:19
The Hatarian AA fire tore into the attacking Undershi planes with deadly force - as the Anti-Shipping load-outs of 120 Golden Eagle heavy bombers struck out at the Hatarian fleet.
Flight Leader Matthew Clark screamed as he watched the Hatarian AA fire take its toll - a Golden Eagle to his left suffered a direct hit, and its two wings came off the wreaked center, to spin flaming towards the sea bellow... a Lightning took an AA missile, and flipped through the air, entierly aflame and ruined... tracers from CIWS and AA machinegun fire seemed to be everywhere, as did flak bursts and the zooming death-dealing little AA missiles the Hatarians seemed to have an infinite supply of...
Another Golden Eagle went down where he could see it, this one just in front of his craft and a few meters bellow - Hatarian machinegun fire stitched a line along its underside, striking vital equipment, hitting the fuel line... that heavy bomber was never going to fly again - as fire consumed it, its pilots used their last agony-filled moments to steer it in towards the super-capital ship the entire strike force had been hunting.
Just as the flaming remains of another downed Lightning flashed past his view on its way to a sudden reunion with the earth, the Munitions Depleted light began to flash, and he felt a moment of relief... before he remembered he still had to get away from that massive ship down bellow that still spat AA fire into the sky... he swallowed nervously - he would do what he could do.

The shattered remains of the Undershi strike force made their way back towards the Undershi mainland in a dark mood - formost amoungst those who felt that sad rage was Flight Leader Matthew Clark, who cursed as he viewed the cassualty lists on his computer. Things didn't look good - so very many losses... it seemed that surface navy vessels could hold their own against air attacks, didn't it? He cursed again, shaking his head at the losses they had suffered, wondering if they had been worthwhile... he hoped they had. At that moment, he sincerly hoped that every Hatarian who lived would die as horribly as he could imagine them perishing.

Losses:

- The Undershi Strike Force has lost:

- 89 Golden Eagle heavy bombers
- 47 Lightning fighters

That means that 31 Golden Eagle heavy bombers and 13 Lightning fighters made it back.
Damage to the super-capital ship they had been ordered to attack remains unknown.
Blackhelm Confederacy
28-10-2006, 17:02
Blackhelm should have been known that unlike The Ships they fought in those Wars, Hatarian Ship Armor wasn't like any other, Namely Being a Titanium/Steel alloy and thicker then The Armor on TPF and Crucible Ships.

Anti-Torpedo Defenses were already ready for the enemy Torpedoes. takeing them out, and it wasn't just From The Nadia The Hataria was where most of The bania-89 Anti-Torpedo Missiles were Coming from, intercepting the enemy Torps.

The Hatarian Bombers were soon starting to head for The Demonic Fleet while The Escourt fighters were engageing The Undership Bombers (OOC: Cheek The Post were I sent The Bombers from Japan with Fighters a Page back) The Bombers targeted one Ship, The Megaship.


OOC: So you are taking no damage from one thousand high speed torpedoes? Explain both your anti-torpedoe systems, and how two ships can destroy 1000 torpedoes. And you specifically said they left the fleet, which I also said in my post, so the rest of their fleet will not be able to provide cover for them.
Undershi
28-10-2006, 17:50
OOC: Hataria, please post damage from Blackhelm's torpedoes and my Air Strike.
Hataria
28-10-2006, 19:57
OOC: So you are taking no damage from one thousand high speed torpedoes? Explain both your anti-torpedoe systems, and how two ships can destroy 1000 torpedoes. And you specifically said they left the fleet, which I also said in my post, so the rest of their fleet will not be able to provide cover for them.


OOC: that is my way of saying IGNORED on them, you say they have Saws, that is well Godmod. and Ten on each Bomber? they have to be as large as a Shogun or Hood.

it is Godmod through and through.
Demon 666
28-10-2006, 21:18
OOC: that is my way of saying IGNORED on them, you say they have Saws, that is well Godmod. and Ten on each Bomber? they have to be as large as a Shogun or Hood.

it is Godmod through and through.

Hataria, you're claiming a bomber with 10 missiles is a godmod? Have you ever looked at the specifications of a normal B-52 Stratofortress? One of those can carry up to 12 missiles- 10 missiles isn't a stretch at all.
And Hataria, how many ships have you lost- remember, you've got about 550 planes that have launched anti-shipping missiles.
IC:
Koritari grumbled as he heard about the approaching Hatarian fighters.
"Pull the third wave back! And get the remaining planes to luanch now!"
Approximately 450 Imperial planes launched off, with some slightly more damaged planes staying behind for repairs.
Meanwhile, the third wave, having delivered over 500 anti-shipping missiles over its fighting, headed back?
Hataria was pulling shit out of its ass, but they were going down.
Hataria
28-10-2006, 21:37
Hataria, you're claiming a bomber with 10 missiles is a godmod? Have you ever looked at the specifications of a normal B-52 Stratofortress? One of those can carry up to 12 missiles- 10 missiles isn't a stretch at all.
And Hataria, how many ships have you lost- remember, you've got about 550 planes that have launched anti-shipping missiles.
IC:
Koritari grumbled as he heard about the approaching Hatarian fighters.
"Pull the third wave back! And get the remaining planes to luanch now!"
Approximately 450 Imperial planes launched off, with some slightly more damaged planes staying behind for repairs.
Meanwhile, the third wave, having delivered over 500 anti-shipping missiles over its fighting, headed back?
Hataria was pulling shit out of its ass, but they were going down.

OOC: well, the Bombers are ok........but Saw torpedoes.....the russians tried it and it failed.

The Two Grand battleships were going to engage The enemy Supercaptial Ship, even if they had to ram through any enemy Ship in their way

The Rest of The Fleet through, was hit hard. The Black Pearl was the main one hit, even through 20 Destroyers and 19 Cruisers were hit my The Third Wave, and another Carrier was now missing a Bridge.

The [i]Black Pearl was sinking

But The Submarines soon came on the Attack, Attacking enemy Subs and Surface ships alike.

The 400 Planes of The carriers were gone.
Hataria
28-10-2006, 21:39
But they have SAWS on them! ZOMG! And a missile cannot carry a saw, come on you can't say that a missile can carry a saw, besides they're not missiles they're air launched torpedoes, seeseesee? And ignore the fact that I have a bomber that would require a wingspan of 6.5 km to drop its payload; that's totally irrelevant.

OOC: Are you mocking me or Blackhelm?
[NS]Zukariaa
29-10-2006, 06:25
Blackhelm has told me over AIM (he's wasted and can't post) that a torpedo with a saw on it would work if the saw is strong enough. I think he can elaborate more tomorrow.
Blackhelm Confederacy
29-10-2006, 17:59
Zukariaa;11871762']Blackhelm has told me over AIM (he's wasted and can't post) that a torpedo with a saw on it would work if the saw is strong enough. I think he can elaborate more tomorrow.

Thanks Zuk. Anyway, the torpedoes are very possible. If the saw is powerful enough, it is not troublesome to cut through steel. I can even provide an example of a saws ability to slice through a boat when a 20,000 ton car carrier sunk in the English channel on Dec. 14 2002, blocking Belgian access. The Belgians sawed the ship into pieces and then removed the segments from the water.

Second, and less realistically, Elliot Carver used one to sink the HMS Devonshire and try to cause a new world war in Tomorrow Never Dies.
Questers
29-10-2006, 18:08
So your torpedo is magically going to slow dow nin front of the ship and begin carving actions? 'Wait here while I cut your hull open' No.
Blackhelm Confederacy
29-10-2006, 18:11
So your torpedo is magically going to slow dow nin front of the ship and begin carving actions? 'Wait here while I cut your hull open' No.

No, the initial impact will first cause hull damage to the enemy ship, then the saws come out and start cutting
Questers
29-10-2006, 18:28
That doesn't make any sense at all. Your torpedoes have saws in them that survive the explosion then automatically begin sawing through a ships hull?

Firstly, HMS Devonshire was a frigate, with little to no armour, and as such you can saw through it with a shipbuilder's saw (not a little diddy thing) and I would ihghly suggest NOT basing theories off James Bond. Specialist equipment is required to remove or cut through armoured vessels.[/b]

The saw they used in the case of the car carrier was not a saw that you could mount on a torpedo. It was a saw mounted on either a vessel or a submarine and it was considerabley larger than anything you can mount in a torpedo.
Blackhelm Confederacy
29-10-2006, 18:33
I am also not cutting the ship in half, rather just putting a hole in it. The car carrier was sliced to pieces, thus meaning the saw does not have to be as big.

And I did not mean the explosion, I meant ramming into the ship at 70 knots. The torpedo does not explode until a set point in the ship.
Hataria
29-10-2006, 21:19
That doesn't make any sense at all. Your torpedoes have saws in them that survive the explosion then automatically begin sawing through a ships hull?

Firstly, HMS Devonshire was a frigate, with little to no armour, and as such you can saw through it with a shipbuilder's saw (not a little diddy thing) and I would highly suggest NOT basing theories off James Bond. Specialist equipment is required to remove or cut through armoured vessels.[/b]

The saw they used in the case of the car carrier was not a saw that you could mount on a torpedo. It was a saw mounted on either a vessel or a submarine and it was considerabley larger than anything you can mount in a torpedo.

I never thought I would see the day that Questers would take my my side.
Mistalinam
29-10-2006, 21:46
[ooc] *Medic ninjas drop down from the ceiling and bundle hoggy into a straight-jacket before dragging him back into the shadows.*
Groznyj
29-10-2006, 22:01
plausible or not, the initial impact is still going to either 1: disable or 2: deform the saw teeth and make them useless. Sawing through something is not a process done at high speed, it takes time.
Hataria
29-10-2006, 22:07
plausible or not, the initial impact is still going to either 1: disable or 2: deform the saw teeth and make them useless. Sawing through something is not a process done at high speed, it takes time.

OOC: Groznyj is sideing with me also? THE WORLD IS ENDING!!!!!
The Transylvania
29-10-2006, 22:14
OOC: They are not really siding with you, Hataria. Now, stop making yourself look like a N00b with those types of OOC posts.
Jaredcohenia
29-10-2006, 22:18
OOC: They are not really siding with you, Hataria. Now, stop making yourself look like a N00b with those types of OOC posts.

OOC: he can't make himself look like a noob because he really is one

ANd Hataria, they aren't siding with you. The saw thing isn't plausible, and just before they were against your what, 20,000 ton payloads?
The Transylvania
29-10-2006, 22:25
OOC:And Hataria, they aren't siding with you. The saw thing isn't plausible, and just before they were against your what, 20,000 ton payloads?

OOC: True. A bomber the size of the Hood.
Groznyj
30-10-2006, 00:50
let's get back on topic shall we? This was supposed to be a war, not a dogpile on Hataria..you can make a seperate thread just for that. :p
Demon 666
30-10-2006, 01:10
The Two Grand battleships were going to engage The enemy Supercaptial Ship, even if they had to ram through any enemy Ship in their way

The Rest of The Fleet through, was hit hard. The Black Pearl was the main one hit, even through 20 Destroyers and 19 Cruisers were hit my The Third Wave, and another Carrier was now missing a Bridge.

The [i]Black Pearl was sinking

But The Submarines soon came on the Attack, Attacking enemy Subs and Surface ships alike.

The 400 Planes of The carriers were gone.
OOC:
Regarding my planes, I lost about 213, leaving me with 687. Koritari sent 500 to deal with Hatarian bombers.
Also, where are your airbases?
IC:
Koritari grimaced as he watched his destroyers and cruisers begin firing back with everything they had, but they were going to need help.
He ordered 125 of the planes that were still sitting on the carriers to aid the navy in beating off these damn subs.

Soramarune, Japan (Yokohama)
A crow squawked in the moonless sky as night fell over the lit sky.
So far, the occupation had been smooth for Hataria. There had been a sullen face here and there, but little that could be deemed as unusual for a conquered lot.
Out in this city stood what was known to the people as the Narkennius airbase, where it was figured by the populace that Hataria was launching planes against their fellow countrymen. Over beer and sake, the men of the Soramune had been discussing and what was to be their lot under the Hatarian occupation. While the same was happening throughout Japan, Soramune was frankly, Tenarius's home, and he had always treated them well.
Now, some men in certain homes were gathering up their guns, and some men in other homes were gathering up various equipment. One of the fundamental principles of the Tenarius's regime was that the people were best generally left alone for the msot apart, and this went to the degree that the citizens all carried weapons. 'All in all, this was a lot that would not except to being mistreated kindly...
Hataria
30-10-2006, 02:16
The Hatarian Rule of Japan was not as cruel as what Demon 666 thought. The Hatarians were treating the japanese kindly and even letting then keep there Weapons. even their Government.

Hataria was also building new Jobs for The Japanese, from Weapons Factories to Offices of Hatarians Firms like HatarOil, Royal Air and Guns Incorparated. (RAGI) and ImperialTech.

all in all, Hataria's Rule was good.
Blackhelm Confederacy
30-10-2006, 03:52
plausible or not, the initial impact is still going to either 1: disable or 2: deform the saw teeth and make them useless. Sawing through something is not a process done at high speed, it takes time.

I would like to make a picture on paint, but it would end up looking ridiculous. Basically, it hits the ship, and the first few feet crush in and then shatter off to the sides, thus revealing the two saws, that would begin cutting through the ship.
Hataria
30-10-2006, 04:11
I would like to make a picture on paint, but it would end up looking ridiculous. Basically, it hits the ship, and the first few feet crush in and then shatter off to the sides, thus revealing the two saws, that would begin cutting through the ship.

OOC Hello! Titanium Armor!
Blackhelm Confederacy
30-10-2006, 04:22
They still will explode nonetheless. Respond appropiately to the attack.
Jaredcohenia
30-10-2006, 04:23
OOC Hello! Titanium Armor!

What basically he's trying to say is the torpedo hits the ship, part of the torpedo breaks off (think of it like glass?) and exposes two blades of the saw that have not touched water yet. Those blades tear apart the hull of the ship/the area hit and then do their job.

Hell, if Axis Nova can have lasers, then Blackhelm can have sawtorpedoes.
Blackhelm Confederacy
30-10-2006, 04:32
What basically he's trying to say is the torpedo hits the ship, part of the torpedo breaks off (think of it like glass?) and exposes two blades of the saw that have not touched water yet. Those blades tear apart the hull of the ship/the area hit and then do their job.

Hell, if Axis Nova can have lasers, then Blackhelm can have sawtorpedoes.

Thank you
Illyan
30-10-2006, 05:23
(OOC: If the torpedo is just dead in the water, wouldn't the saw torpedo just like... bounce off and float away? What is keeping it against the hull? Or do I just not understand the concept...)
Blackhelm Confederacy
30-10-2006, 05:26
On impact, when the first shell shatters off, the primary motor dies, and a secondary, far weaker motor kicks into place, allowing it to continue traveling forward at a rather slow speed.
Illyan
30-10-2006, 05:36
(Yeah, but, if its a saw wouldn't it sort of climb up the hull instead of cut into it? I'd just think it would need alot of pressure to cut into something.)
Groznyj
30-10-2006, 05:38
haha, sounds like you need to make a developement thread for this kinda thing because no one gets it.
Blackhelm Confederacy
30-10-2006, 05:39
haha, sounds like you need to make a developement thread for this kinda thing because no one gets it.

I'm going to right now
Blackhelm Confederacy
30-10-2006, 06:14
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=505118

Eat your hearts out
Hataria
30-10-2006, 18:09
OOC: This Thread is going from bad to wrose with OOCs and Godmodish Torpedoes......

I knew I should have made this CLOSED for only Me and Demon 666.
Hataria
30-10-2006, 22:05
Grand General Asuka (With Orders from Neherenia.) soon sent a messenge to Tenarius.

From: Grand General Asuka Langay Shoyu.
To: Tenarius

I would like to strat Peace Talks with your Goverment and to end the War. It is The wish of Her Imperial Majsety, Empress Neherenia of Hataria, Japan, China, Spain, Brazil etc. I also like a cease Fire to be started as soon as you can.
Blackhelm Confederacy
30-10-2006, 22:49
I just straightened out the torpedoes, they are not Godmods, they have a shorter range now, but they will still effect your ship
Demon 666
01-11-2006, 04:17
Grand General Asuka (With Orders from Neherenia.) soon sent a messenge to Tenarius.

From: Grand General Asuka Langay Shoyu.
To: Tenarius

I would like to strat Peace Talks with your Goverment and to end the War. It is The wish of Her Imperial Majsety, Empress Neherenia of Hataria, Japan, China, Spain, Brazil etc. I also like a cease Fire to be started as soon as you can.

We are willing to have talks with the Hatarian government. Foreign Minister Kinjiro Ayanami will conduct the talks. We are also willing to approve a ceasefire.
In Amor, the capital of the Empire, the mood was somewhat hopeful, but with a lack of cheering that they knew was going across the pro-CA forces and their imminent victory. The Demon 666 forces had done a fine job- they had held off a Hatarian force many times larger than them, and the CA forces acrosss the world had won. All the same, no one was secure about peace. No was willing to accept an Hatarian occupation of Japan, the Emperor's home, and it was noted while Tenarius ordered his men to stand down, production of war materials had not ceased and there were still rountine defense drills twice a week. However, maybe they could be peace and the people could get to doing what they liked- commerce.
Hataria
06-11-2006, 18:05
Bump.
Undershi
08-11-2006, 23:55
The Undershi Foreign Ministry has issued the following statement to the government of Demon 666:

The Undershi Empire would like to make clear our support for our allies. We are loyal to those who help us, and so we have the following assurance to make:
The Undershi Fleet of The Pacifics has yet to be returned to its pre-war patrol routes and so on - it has yet to be disbanded. We would therefore like to assure you that, should the need arise, we would be more than glad to send aid in the form of its 14 carrier groups - for example, if Hataria refuses to see reason during negotiations...