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Global Alliance of Sovereign Nations v2.0

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Cravan
09-10-2006, 19:43
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Please note that the editor who missed the typo where "charter" is not spelled correctly is now living on the street.

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Cravna, Cravan
GASN Headquarters

"Today is a great day in the eyes of this alliance, as we are here today to reclaim the former glory of what was once the GASN.", Director David Koslin said into the microphone, his voice resonating throughout the Assembly chambers and into the homes of billions worldwide. "As we all know, GASN has been overrun by small, militaristic nations which have the intent of solving the world's problems through action and not peace. Therefore, after careful deliberation, we have found it necessary to begin anew.

"A select number of nations have been selected to remain in the GASN, while a number have been downgraded to validating or outright ejected. It is high time this alliance reclaimed its name, and as a result the list of full members of the Second Global Alliance of Sovereign Nations is as follows:

Cravan
The Aeson
Aequatio
Blaglug
Illior
Northford
Warring Minorities
Carbandia
West Corinthia
Shazbotdom
Ustia
Military Command
New Ausha
The World Soviet Party
Uldarious
Rosdivan

"As you can see, the Alliance has been trimmed somewhat. We will also be implementing much stricter entry guidelines, which will prevent this from happening again. Never again will the GASN serve to only humilate its seasoned members, and now it shall serve its intended purpose.

"And now, I present the revised charter of the GASN."

A second man rose to a lower podium, in his hands the new Charter of the Alliance. He set it gently on the podium, and read aloud.

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Introduction
Global Alliance of Sovereign Nations (from now on referred to as “GASN”) is an alliance meant to restore peace to war torn areas of the world, and is primarily a collective defense organization to protect its members against unwarranted aggression. It has a secondary purpose, however, of bringing member nations together in a bonding alliance of mutual assistance and friendship to promote national sovereignty and freedom.

The Points
GASN is based on three points, each of them just as important as the next.

Economic Point
The first point, the Economic Point, promises to open trade between member nations, and improve relations with other members through free and open markets. It is defined by the following terms:
1-1. All member nations open trade to one another, tariff free.
1-2. Economic aid will be given to the less fortunate member nations to assist them in their growth and development.
1-3. All economic ideologies are to be permitted.
1-4. Member nations are expected to respect copyright laws of other member nations, and are expected to respect the laws other nations may have regarding trade.

Military Point
The central point of the alliance is the Military Point. This point defines the purpose of the military, and the role it plays in GASN’s day to day activities. The military is the main part of the GASN’s purpose, and is thus defined by the following terms:
2-1a. All member nations are expected to assist other member nations in the event of unprovoked attack, either militarily or economically.
2-1b. In the event of a provoked attack or aggressive action, it is the member nation’s choice of whether or not to enter the conflict.
2-2a. Declarations of war on other members are not permitted, and a nation-nation internal GASN conflict will result in the expulsion of the aggressor from the GASN.
2-2b. Publicly assisting a member nation who takes aggressive action against another member will result in permanent expulsion.
2-3. GASN will take part in combined peacekeeping operations when requested to intervene. Participation is optional.
2-4. All sanctioned GASN operations are to be headed by commanders from the four leading nations* and a lead commander, selected by the council and voted into office by the General Assembly each month. The requirements to be the lead commander are a strict RP review, a review of past relations with other nations, and a population of 1+ billion. Sanctioned operations are those agreed upon by the Governing Council and ratified by the General Assembly.

*See “Governing Council” below.

Humanitarian Point
The third and final point of GASN is the Humanitarian Point. The terms of this point deal with the treatment of citizens and civilians, along with humanitarian operations. They are as follows:
3-1. Maltreatment of one’s own citizens for unjustified purposes will result in expulsion from GASN, and will also result in economic sanctions against the offending nation.
3-2. Humanitarian aid will be given to all nations requiring it, no matter how large or small. This aid includes, but is not limited to:
A. Monetary aid
B. Food and Water Supply
C. Military Peacekeeper Protection
D. Educational Development
E. Construction of utilities, transportation systems, etc.
F. Technological Advancement

Membership Requirements
Requirements for membership in the GASN are as follows:
MR-1. No population or governmental restrictions.
MR-2. No maltreatment of citizens, prisoners, prisoners of war, ethnic groups, religions, or any other type of a breach of basic human rights. They must be given a decent standard of living, and given the basic needs a human being requires to survive.
MR-3. A standing military, no matter how small or large, and a willingness to defend member nations from unprovoked aggression.
MR-4. Ability to serve in all military operations deemed mandatory. Military operations will only be deemed mandatory in extreme circumstances.
MR-5. A grace period spanning two RL weeks where their RPing experience is put under review.
MR-6. Endorsement from two (2) well established members. (members for 1+ months)
MR-7. Thorough background checks by the Foreign Relations council.
MR-8. No current conflicts which would force GASN members to war. A nation may request aid, but cannot become a member while at war. Said conflict must end first, whether or not GASN nations decide to assist.
MR-9. Approval by the governing council.
MR-10. A proven competence in RPing experience, as seen by the governing council.

Governing Council
There will also be a governing council of four nations, all of which are permanent. Three of these members will be appointed by the founding member, Cravan. However, they will be required to receive two nominations from member nations to qualify. Any of these three appointed nations on the governing council can be removed if the founding member and three other members (council or regular) agree. If the governing council agrees in a vote of 3/4, any member of GASN can be ejected without the ability to reapply assuming there is valid reason behind the ejection. The Founding Member may eject any regular member assuming valid reasoning is given. The Founding Member may also assume dictatorial controls if the Council shows a period of inactivity or incompetence. Power will be handed back to the Council and Assembly at a time deemed fit by the Founding Member.

Lower Councils
Meanwhile, there will be three lower councils, the Military, Foreign Relations, and Economic councils. They will make decisions based on their area of expertise, and they will be chosen by the following guidelines:
CG-1. Appointment through Governing Council vote
CG-2. Review of RPing skills
CG-3. Review of expertise in chosen field
CG-4. Review of past relations with other nations and various other background checks.

Please make a formal IC request for admission. If you do not have a formal IC request, I know you have probably not read through most of the charter and therefore you are not worthy of membership.

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Link to Forums: http://z9.invisionfree.com/GASN/index.php?
(will be down for maitenence for a while)

Governing Council
Cravan
Aequatio
The Aeson
Illior

Members
(Lower Council)
Blaglug
Northford
Carbandia
West Corinthia
Shazbotdom
Ustia
Military Command
New Ausha
The World Soviet Party
Uldarious
Rosdivan
Wanderjar
Hurtful Thoughts
Questers
North Tolemac
Asgarnieu
Lower Columbia
Allanea
Northern Colonies
Jaredcohenia
Eurasia
Nuevo Italia
Ezaltia
Ghost Tigers Rise
Aunesia

Validating
Hurtful Thoughts
Wanderjar
Questers
Kanami
Nor nuin Giliath
North Tolemac
Zackaroth
Antigr
Spooty
Boico
Brydog
Asgarnieu
Lower Columbia
Allanea
Aurulinia
Zackaroth
Czechalrus
Germantly
The Fedral Union
Northern Colonies
British Londinium (Eurasia)
Jaredcohenia
Nuevo Italia
Ezaltia
Vontanas
Ghost Tigers Rise
Aunesia
Calizorinstan
Kulikova
Kampfers
The Fedral Union

If you are a member and not on the above lists you have either been ejected (and probably given the option to reapply) or I have missed you. Please inform me if this is the case.
Clandonia Prime
09-10-2006, 19:46
OOC: Can I join now its been reformed?
The Aeson
09-10-2006, 19:49
OOC: Glad to see we're up and running again.

IC: The Holy Confederacy of New Aeson is happy to see that the GASN has been rejuvenated and hopes that this will usher in a new era of prosperity for it's members.
Wanderjar
09-10-2006, 20:03
Emperor Baker is pleased to see the face lift on the GASN, however is somewhat distressed that many members were ejected, many whom had done good things in their time, though certain mistakes were made.


Regardless, he has opted to remain a member state, and not to allow this to harm relations with their Ally, Cravan, who did give him refuge during the bloody Military Coup earlier in the year.


(OOC: :))
Shazbotdom
09-10-2006, 20:04
**OFFICIAL STATMENT**
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Our lawyers will be looking over this new doctorine. They wish to see if there are any loopholes to make sure that no one tries to use the GASN name in the manner that some former member nations have in the past. It may take a few days for our Lawyers to fully look over the doctorine so please stand by.
Groznyj
09-10-2006, 20:47
ooc: looks good, I haven't been in many rps yet (4-5 I think) so I'll apply later on. This is just a place holder of sorts to let you know I'm interested.
Northford
09-10-2006, 21:16
[Snowed under with work...Biology coursework on the Fauna of a rocky shore, and maths: Differenciating Trigonometry. Will do an IC post wednesday, possibly thursday. Deepest appologies.]
Trivalvia
09-10-2006, 21:25
Statement: For Immediate Release

The Democratic Republic of Trivalvia, seeking many of the same goals as stated in the revised charter of the Global Alliance of Sovereign Nations, would like to voice its support for the reformed alliance. Although we are not yet ready to seek membership within the GASN, the Trivalvian government wishes to convey to the GASN governing council its willingness to provide support to the alliance in its efforts to promote peace worldwide, and wish to open talks regarding the opening of Trivalvian sea and airbases to GASN forces.
Maldorians
09-10-2006, 21:40
some friend of mine in the CA wants to know if he can join you guys. his name is Galmiria. altough, i conquered them, he wants to join you
Vrak
09-10-2006, 22:02
OOC: Hope my post is okay because I am assuming that your #1 post is being transmitted to the world. If not, I can edit.

IC:

To: The Cravan Government
From: The Vrak Ministry of Rites
Subject: GASN version II

Just like the World Anti-Terrorism Alliance et.al., this alliance is doomed for failure. Why can't nations and alliances such as yourselves realize that there are "no world problems" except for busybodies like yourselves who seek to bother everyone else with their agenda? Leave others alone.

Signed

[The Great Seal of the Ministry of Rites]
The World Soviet Party
09-10-2006, 22:11
Snip

We, the World Soviet Party, would like to thank GASN for keeping us in as a member state.
We also recommend that Trivalvia is accepted in the GASN, as they have proved to be very helpful and respectful both with us, and their citizens.
Cravan
09-10-2006, 22:18
((OOC: No time to respond to alot, so I'll answer a few questions OOC.

@Trivalvia: Assume I had a seceratary type up a nice response to you. I'll get a full formal response sometime later.

@CP: Feel free to apply.

@Mal: All request for membership have to be formal IC requests by those who want to join. So, atm, no.

@Northy: No prob, take your time. =)

I'll type up a quick IC response for Vrak, now.))



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Global Alliance of Sovereign Nations Public Relations

If you would care to read and understand the charter, you would see our alliance is not based upon foreign interventions such as the doomed anti-terror alliance of which you speak. This alliance is founded on the basis of defense of its neighbors and only those who request assistance. While our members may take it upon themseleves to stick their noses where they do not belong, it is not the policy of this alliance to intrude in other nations' affairs. Hence the name "Sovereign" in the title. We keep out of your business, you keep out of our own. Fair enough?

Signed,

Luisa Vasquez
Luisa Vasquez
Director of GASN PR
Galmiria
09-10-2006, 22:43
To:GASN
From:President Clark Hartsecur


Hello. My nation would like to join the GASN. our past history was on the CA for about 1 hour, fighting the Griffencrest in TWSP, and facing against Maldorians and becoming friends with them. If there is anything more you need for the application please notify us. Thank you.
Questers
09-10-2006, 22:52
[OOC: Great job Cravan. Can we chat about smoething on MSN some time?]

Diplomatic Communique
The United Kingdom fully supports the new GASN and its charter, finding the charter and its points most agreeable. We believe andhope that the thinning down of the GASN memberbase will make the Global Alliance of Sovereign Nations more compatible with the UK.
The World Soviet Party
09-10-2006, 22:53
fighting the Griffencrest in TWSP.

Wha... when?
Cravan
09-10-2006, 22:54
[OOC: Great job Cravan. Can we chat about smoething on MSN some time?]

Diplomatic Communique
The United Kingdom fully supports the new GASN and its charter, finding the charter and its points most agreeable. We believe andhope that the thinning down of the GASN memberbase will make the Global Alliance of Sovereign Nations more compatible with the UK.

((Thanks. What time do you think you'll be on until GMT? I have to run in about ten miniutes, but I figure I can sign on real quick.))
Questers
09-10-2006, 22:54
I'm on right now.
Galmiria
09-10-2006, 22:58
Wha... when?


yes, I was in a battle but my army was brutally slaughtered by Griffencrest
Liberated New Ireland
09-10-2006, 23:30
We, the World Soviet Party, would like to thank GASN for keeping us in as a member state.
We also recommend that Trivalvia is accepted in the GASN, as they have proved to be very helpful and respectful both with us, and their citizens.

OOC: Uh, hang on... WSP is a founding member of the UCN. How the hell is he a GASN member, too?
Trivalvia
10-10-2006, 00:04
OOC: probably in the same way that, say, Canada is a member of NORAD, NATO, the British Commonwealth, and the UN all at the same time. So long as charters don't cause conflict of interest, there's no rule limiting the number of alliances one can be part of.
Kanami
10-10-2006, 00:38
The Republic of Kanami
Ministry of Foreign Affairs


Kanami has not seemed to have been put back on the list. So now the legilation treaty that has entered us has gone back to Parliment and has been branded as unknown. We aren't sure if we have been explled or we are simply needing re-apply.
Shazbotdom
10-10-2006, 00:47
The Republic of Kanami
Ministry of Foreign Affairs


Kanami has not seemed to have been put back on the list. So now the legilation treaty that has entered us has gone back to Parliment and has been branded as unknown. We aren't sure if we have been explled or we are simply needing re-apply.


**Cough**

If you are a member and not on the above lists you have either been ejected (and probably given the option to reapply) or I have missed you. Please inform me if this is the case.
Aqua Anu
10-10-2006, 00:50
Don't cough, tell him which is it. Tell us both infact were in the same boat. That's not exactly the most clear sentace
Vrak
10-10-2006, 00:56
If you would care to read and understand the charter, you would see our alliance is not based upon foreign interventions such as the doomed anti-terror alliance of which you speak. This alliance is founded on the basis of defense of its neighbors and only those who request assistance. While our members may take it upon themseleves to stick their noses where they do not belong, it is not the policy of this alliance to intrude in other nations' affairs. Hence the name "Sovereign" in the title. We keep out of your business, you keep out of our own. Fair enough?

Signed,

Luisa Vasquez
Luisa Vasquez
Director of GASN PR

To: Luisa Vasquez, Director of GASN PR
From: The Vrak Ministry of Rites
Re: GASN version II

When you address those that are more powerful than you, you would do better to use a modicum of respect instead of being so casual in your remarks. Yes, we do understand that this alliance is defensive in nature, but from our experience this has been but a cover in order to promote an agenda. Your concluding remarks in your charter, specifically:

"As all nations can see, it is time a new world order begins, and GASN seeks to jump start this new world order. It will take time, but eventually, we will be able to live in peace."

give us some concern. We do not like this concept of a "new world order" for there is nothing wrong with the current one. Finally, we do not like your implied threat of "you keep out of our own" business. We will hope that you will mind your own words for in the inevitable case that your alliance will begin to meddle in another sovereign nation's affairs, you shall find us near.

Signed,

[The Great Seal of the Ministry of Rites]
imported_Illior
10-10-2006, 01:32
OOC: Finally got some free time Crave? anyways, glad to see this came back up, and Kanami to address your point, I'm pretty sure you would go onto the validating list, although I could be wrong, due to inactivity on the offsite forum.
Official Government Proclamation from the Office of Chairwoman Erika Kars

It is always a glad sight to see the sign of friendship appear in today's world, and I am glad to see that the thinning of GASN has finally come to fruition, and I duly give congradulation to the hardworking staff of the major GASN nations that put this new charter together and have started in its implementation.

To the United Kingdom of Questers, although we have never been directly allied, we have always shared a mutual respect for the other's nation, and I hope that our membership in GASN never tainted this relationship. With your new found compatibility of the alliance, I think it may be wise to eventually create some tie with the UK, as it most likely would be beneficial to both of our nations, or the alliance and the UK, depending on the tie that would be acceptable.

To the Vrak Ministry of Rites, your concerns are duly noted, and although your nation may be larger and more powerful than most if not all of the nations in the GASN, it seems slightly unfair to be the judge of who is older. Although we have not had much in the way of contact during the courses of our two nations, the growth of the Vrakian (OOC: hope I got that right) nation and its people have not been lost on the Illiorians, as our two nations lived through some of the harshest times our world may have ever seen.

Anyways, to the point. Your concerns are valid, that indeed most alliances fail, due to inactivity, loss of interest by participating nations, etc. The idea that I hope sets GASN apart is its strong, dedicated founding nations. These nations are the rock upon which GASN has built, and is now finishing remodeling its house. The reason why they are the rock is because their international policies and actions lead by demonstration, and will hopefully set an example for the rest of the members, and create an active and strong alliance that may one day rival the powers of the former NATO and RWC pacts.

Once again, I give my congradulations to the staff at the GASN headquarters, and ask them to continue their hard work, and thank you all for reading this.

Erika Kars,
Chairwoman of the Illiorian National Governing Council
Cravan
10-10-2006, 02:17
*snip*

((OOC: Shit, that part was left over from the last charter when our objective was to be rid of Kraven and put in a "New World Order." Forgot to edit it out. Sorry 'bout that. Editing now.

@Kanami & Aqua Anu
You aren't on the list because I thought you were inactive since you both were never on the forum or anything or even in the thread. Perhaps I saw you there once or twice. My mistake, however you will have to reapply with a formal IC request and go through the validation.))
Wanderjar
10-10-2006, 02:18
((OOC: Shit, that part was left over from the last charter when our objective was to be rid of Kraven and put in a "New World Order." Forgot to edit it out. Sorry 'bout that. Editing now.))

Cravan, don't give in to him! Leave it. It sounds cool anyway.
Cravan
10-10-2006, 02:21
Cravan, don't give in to him! Leave it. It sounds cool anyway.

((It was my mistake... I didn't intend for that to be there.))
Wanderjar
10-10-2006, 02:24
((It was my mistake... I didn't intend for that to be there.))

Eh, alright then.
Vrak
10-10-2006, 03:19
OOC:
@ Cravan. Well, it wouldn't really matter if that part was left in the charter or not. We, that is, icly, just don't like alliances that we perceive as getting into other people's affairs. This does, of course, mean that we perceive things inaccurately in an ic sense but it helps give my generals an excuse to keep funding the military. You know, "all these new alliances popping up mean we have to keep our military budget up sir! Even if we don't know anything about them! They could attack us at any moment!" Besides, I have to annoy people once in a while. :)

@Illior. Yup, you have it right. "Vrakian" is the adjective, such as "look at that fat Vrakian walrus." As for alliances "doomed to fail", it's more of a philosophical remark in that we think that those who are busybodies die off quicker than those who keep to their own affairs. But yeah, ooc stuff such as inactivity and whatnot are the death of alliances, regions, and nations. :(


To: The Illior Government
From: The Vrak Ministry of Rites
Re: GASN II

We are not exactly sure of what to make of your remarks. You are respectful which shows well in possible future dealings, but we have always been wary of others who wish to remodel the world into their own image. To give your people a glimpse of why we feel this way, it is because the Klatch, of which Vrak is but a state, has often been misunderstood by outsiders and subsequently invaded, unsuccesfully to date we should add, by those wishing to interfere in our internal affairs. These same outsiders have used flimsy excuses to conduct such crusades and have failed miserably, instead of pursuing diplomacy first. Therefore, our stance on this and other such like-minded alliances have not changed. We do intend to only concern ourselves with our own affairs and we hope this successor to the first GASN will do so as well. Not to do so may result in Vrak and possibly his allies to take a more active voice to counter such unwelcome pursuits.

Signed

[The Great Seal of the Ministry of Rites]
Hurtful Thoughts
10-10-2006, 05:14
I think I figured out why my name is in yellow now...

And I can guess for myself why I've been downgraded to said catagory.

It's life's way of saying "slow down", like a sucking chest wound...

...

[Sucking chest wound noise]

....

I should take care of that...

But I've got a war to fight, whether or not I'm really part of the GASN, I've still promised to give aid to GASN nations, and to Khornate tribes.

And even had it not been for GASN, I still would more likely than not have been involved in said conflicts, especially Khornate tribes.

I'll just consider myself on very freindly terms with GASN, and I can't really wipe the paint off the boats that are jointly operated by PROHT/GASN forces, especially the ones currently commiting acts of piracy against Griffencrest Petroluem industries and the other half assisting Khornate tribes (the amount of these boat in comparission to the number of local privateers is minimal, and are only there to detract any attempted show of force).

Incedentally, almost all non GASN controled boats from PROHT are directly assisting in the defense of 2 GASN nations. Save a few resserved purely for defense of our own shorelines.
Ustia
10-10-2006, 05:27
OOC: Sweet Cravan reformed the charter. I guess now is the best time to get back into the GASN so lay it on me, whats going on right now in are little alliances world?
Dephire
10-10-2006, 06:43
Well, it looks like Dephire is no longer a GASN member. As of last night..or whenever everyone got together and decided, Dephire was ejected from the GASN. Hurtful Thoughts had told me. So, I thank him.

Now then. This is what was done wrong.

First off, why was it Hurtful Thoughts that had to tell me? No one else was capable of coming up to me and telling me that I was no longer a member of the GASN?

Second off, why wasn't I even NOTIFIED?! There wasn't a TG, hell...I wasn't even given a PM on the off-site forum. How was I supposed to know?

Thirdly..Cravan, I remember that you had said that I wouldn't be ejected, but only be brought down to a pending member. So what the hell man?

No, I'm not pissed. I just want some answers. This is bull-crap that no matter how fucking hard I tried to keep this 'sovereignty' thing enforced, I'm the one that pays.
Northford
10-10-2006, 07:02
Dephire, That should be kept to the offsite forum.
Dephire
10-10-2006, 07:04
Dephire, That should be kept to the offsite forum.

I can't. Being a rejected nation means that you cannot post new topics. And I would hate to spam other nation's topics.
Carbandia
10-10-2006, 11:01
Then you should have pm'ed Crave. There was a time when you guys nearly caused me to leave over your actions..but I am glad I did not..

What part of "if it affects you, it affects us all, dammit!" did you not understand? By acting like a loose cannon you made all the rest of us look bad, more so those that did not condone your actions. (/wenting over)
Hurtful Thoughts
10-10-2006, 14:41
The below is strictly OOC:

I only pointed out that you weren't on the new roster...

Could have been because you were overlooked... Though this is doubtful, as your name is in red on the offsite.

2ndly, I told you on my own free will, mostly because my name looked differnt on the offsite forum and I went digging for answers and found the second version, read the roster, and noted Deph wasn't there on the waiting list, since deph, wanderjar, and myself, among others were a bunch of loose cannons. I then checked the other lists for Dephire, but no "Dephire" was to be found...

So don't thank me, informing you was an afterthought.
And had an alterior motive to simply informing you.
(Mostly to prevent you from going into a conflict thinking the GASN will back you [directy anyways])

Looks like ADAN has a breath of new life?
(So long as you never spamad it on another offsite forum again)

I guess my only saving grace is that I pointed out when I was acting out of strict accordance to the the GASN charter and when I was exploiting the grey areas.
Wanderjar
10-10-2006, 19:27
Cravan? Why did you give Dephire the boot? Thats really not cool man.


Its not going to hurt our national, or even personal relations, but I'll have to think about whether I want to remain in the GASN. I feel you've booted some good guys.
The Aeson
10-10-2006, 19:57
You know Dephire, you can reapply.
Cravan
10-10-2006, 20:01
I've told Dephire why through PM. If he wants he can share why.

I personally have a liking to Dephire, but a number of factors contributed. Don't think I did it because I felt like it, I have my reasons. I actually didn't want to, but I had no other choice. Some things came to my attention I couldn't let slide.
Wanderjar
10-10-2006, 20:30
I've told Dephire why through PM. If he wants he can share why.

I personally have a liking to Dephire, but a number of factors contributed. Don't think I did it because I felt like it, I have my reasons. I actually didn't want to, but I had no other choice. Some things came to my attention I couldn't let slide.


Ah, I see. I apologize then old friend.

A fuffle for forgiveness?

:fluffle:
Dephire
10-10-2006, 20:40
-Sighs-
And here I was wishing to seek vengence...Thanks for the PM Cravan. It really cleared up some things. Guys, I know I can't really blame everything on a disease or a disorder. But I can say I'm truly sorry. Live long my friends!

-Takes Wanderjar aside-

"Now then my good friend, which alliance shall we join?"
Neo-Erusea
10-10-2006, 20:41
Nice newspaper. Excaliber... Yeah!:D
Cravan
10-10-2006, 20:47
OOC: Excalibur is teh shit. ^_^
Questers
10-10-2006, 22:40
[OOC: Alright, I'm serious about this, and I've got my endorsements and talked to Cravan about it.]

Diplomatic Communique
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To Cravan, and the rest of the Global Alliance of Sovereign Nations,

The United Kingdom and Rising Sun of Questers announces its intention to apply to join the G.A.S.N as a permanent member, considering the new terms that we find most agreeable. While we have had our differences in the past, the UK has worked with several G.A.S.N nations before and has positive relations with several members, primarily Northford.

We hope that the membership of the G.A.S.N approves of Questers joining this alliance, and although we have had our differences before we hope they can be set aside, for peace is the first step to civilisation.
Liberated New Ireland
10-10-2006, 22:49
Cravan? Why did you give Dephire the boot? Thats really not cool man.


Its not going to hurt our national, or even personal relations, but I'll have to think about whether I want to remain in the GASN. I feel you've booted some good guys.

Leave them, Chris. Follow me, to the Dark Side. [/Vader's Voice]
Liberated New Ireland
10-10-2006, 22:51
OOC: probably in the same way that, say, Canada is a member of NORAD, NATO, the British Commonwealth, and the UN all at the same time. So long as charters don't cause conflict of interest, there's no rule limiting the number of alliances one can be part of.

Well, shit. If I'd known that, I wouldn't have left the GASN in the first place...
Wanderjar
10-10-2006, 22:51
Leave them, Chris. Follow me, to the Dark Side. [/Vader's Voice]

Nah, I'm going to stay. Besides, I happen to like using their forum. But I'm still in the Communist Alliance.
Cravan
10-10-2006, 22:57
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Global Alliance of Sovereign Nations Public Relations

The Democratic Empire accepts the United Kingdom with open arms, and enthusiastically adds the UK to the validating members list. We are confident that you will be a full member in no time, and we merely must put you as validating as a formality. I believe my staff and I can officially welcome the United Kingdom as the first applied member since the reformation.

Signed,

Luisa Vasquez
Luisa Vasquez
Director of GASN PR
Shazbotdom
10-10-2006, 23:39
**OFFICIAL STATMENT**
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After our lawyers have looked over this new doctorine, they have agreed that the rebuilding of the alliance has worked wonderfully. We agree with the new changes made in the new doctorine and the joint cheifs of staff and the Supreme Emperor have decided in a vote that the Dark Empire of Shazbotdom will stay in the Global Alliance of Soverign Nations.
New Ausha
11-10-2006, 00:01
Our only request is that issues are dealt with more quickly, and that members simply arent ignored at times, as we have had expierience with.

-Ministry of Foreign Affairs
imported_Illior
11-10-2006, 00:34
OOC @ Questers: Yay! you finally decided to get your act together and join...
From the Office of Madame Jessica Papare, Illiorian Ambassador to GASN

On behalf of Illior, I would like to congradulate the United Kingdom of Questers on their recent application and acceptance into The Global Alliance od Sovereign Nations. I feel this is a step forward in the reassemblance of GASN, and I hope it will be a beneficial choice for everyone.

Jessica Papare,
OAG
(Recently Appointed)
Ustia
11-10-2006, 00:54
I decided to read the new doctrine and I would have to say its very good. I like how specific it is and how it basically answers all of your questions, good job Cravan!:)
Cravan
11-10-2006, 02:15
Thanks. Northford reminded me to add something about affiliates, which I will be doing when I get the chance.
Hurtful Thoughts
11-10-2006, 05:02
So how do I know when I've been endorsed?

(It's been awhile since I've had to apply or wait for a full membership, as the CA was simply sign on the dotted line and you are in no questions asked...)
Cravan
11-10-2006, 05:08
After the two weeks are up I'll ask who would endorse your reentry. Then you have to be confirmed by the council, etc.

Also, I already realised I missed Uldarious but I know there are others who I may have missed. Speaketh now or forever hold thine peace.
Northford
11-10-2006, 20:32
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[Standard Flown on Northfordian Ships that server with the GASN Escort Force]

Official Government Statement
Office for GASN Affairs, Northford

Greetings, Friends, Allies, and trade partners,

The time has come in every alliances history where it must be pruned. Like a beautiful rose, it must have it's dead material cut, and it must have, like all roses, some good material removed, to make way for vigourous, new growth.

We have witnessed that today with the GASN. Cutting away the unneeded and unwanted traits, it has allowed itself to be subject to renewed growth. Growth, which, like the case of the admittance of The Formidable Allied Provinces of Questers, we welcome. [Endorse]. Growth like the admitance of the Peoples Republic of Hurtful thoughts, who, if they can meet all of the membership requirements will make wonderful members of the GASN [Endorse].

While this is true, and good gardener will take his cuttings and put them onto the compost heap, so that their goodness can be passed onto future generations. The Government of Northford believes that while certain ocuntries may not wish to be fully involved with the GASN, they may still wish to benifit from free trade and friendliness that the GASN. To that end, the Commonwealth of Northford is eager to push for the application of previous members as Affiliates, or, Associates. We propose they be given the following provisions of the alliance:

1-1. All member nations open trade to one another, tariff free.
1-3. All economic ideologies are to be permitted.
1-4. Member nations are expected to respect copyright laws of other member nations, and are expected to respect the laws other nations may have regarding trade.

2-2a. Declarations of war on other members are not permitted, and a nation-nation internal GASN conflict will result in the expulsion of the aggressor from the GASN.
2-2b. Publicly assisting a member nation who takes aggressive action against another member will result in permanent expulsion.

3-1. Maltreatment of one’s own citizens for unjustified purposes will result in expulsion from GASN, and will also result in economic sanctions against the offending nation.

Being an associate, or affiliate lead therefore leads to a much looser friendship with the GASN, much more like a free trade group. Therefore, the Commonwealth proposes the following membership requirements:

MR-1. No population or governmental restrictions.
MR-2. No maltreatment of citizens, prisoners, prisoners of war, ethnic groups, religions, or any other type of a breach of basic human rights. They must be given a decent standard of living, and given the basic needs a human being requires to survive.
MR-5. A grace period spanning two RL weeks where their RPing experience is put under review.
MR-6. Endorsement from two (2) well established members. (members for 1+ months)
MR-7. Thorough background checks by the Foreign Relations council.
MR-8. No current conflicts which would force GASN members to war. A nation may request aid, but cannot become a member while at war. Said conflict must end first, whether or not GASN nations decide to assist.
MR-9. Approval by the governing council.
MR-10. A proven competence in RPing experience, as seen by the governing council.

While these ideas are merely suggestions, the Commonwealth warmly greets it's other members, and looks forward to a better, more prosperus, future.

Signed,

Alan Brookes,

Prime Minister of Northford.
Cravan
13-10-2006, 03:49
The Democratic Empire takes this suggestion into consideration, and will submit it to the General Assembly for deliberation and a vote. This resolution has our full support.

((In other words, bump))
Northford
13-10-2006, 20:30
Members: Please Check out the Forum, for General Assembly Discussion.
Dephire
13-10-2006, 20:40
Heya everyone, I may need some assistance in something I'm trying to write up...how would you like to assist in restoring and reforming Dephire? My nation is in chaos, and many cities are in ruins. It's hard to RP when you don't have anything else left. So, what do you say?
The Aeson
13-10-2006, 20:44
Heya everyone, I may need some assistance in something I'm trying to write up...how would you like to assist in restoring and reforming Dephire? My nation is in chaos, and many cities are in ruins. It's hard to RP when you don't have anything else left. So, what do you say?

Official Aesonic Communique

We are willing to send in some Purifiers in order to restore order in key areas in Dephire.
Emporer Pudu
13-10-2006, 20:46
Heya everyone, I may need some assistance in something I'm trying to write up...how would you like to assist in restoring and reforming Dephire? My nation is in chaos, and many cities are in ruins. It's hard to RP when you don't have anything else left. So, what do you say?

The Dominion is willing to do what they can to bring Dephire back to their feet, money and supply donations are available, although our manpower is required elsewhere.
Dephire
13-10-2006, 20:47
Thank you. I shall be composing a thread more than likely tomorrow or later...Currently short on time...
Northford
14-10-2006, 09:30
OOC: Has C.Prime applied yet? Anyway, if/when he does, you've got my endoresement.
Antigr
14-10-2006, 10:14
Can Antigr Join?
Dephire
14-10-2006, 16:00
Don't get involved in too many alliances now, Antigr.

Also, I have posted a thread that should get my nation back on track. It's Reformation and Restoration (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?threadid=503147). Hope to see some of you there!
Clandonia Prime
14-10-2006, 17:19
OOC: Has C.Prime applied yet? Anyway, if/when he does, you've got my endoresement.

OOC: I'm still thinking about it, its going to be a hard choice as I know some inside the GASN don't want me and they are potentially fratenzing with my enemys.
Chellis
14-10-2006, 18:24
Anyways, to the point. Your concerns are valid, that indeed most alliances fail, due to inactivity, loss of interest by participating nations, etc. The idea that I hope sets GASN apart is its strong, dedicated founding nations. These nations are the rock upon which GASN has built, and is now finishing remodeling its house. The reason why they are the rock is because their international policies and actions lead by demonstration, and will hopefully set an example for the rest of the members, and create an active and strong alliance that may one day rival the powers of the former NATO and RWC pacts.

We should hope that Illior isn't wishing such a bad fate upon the GASN as that of NATO or the RWC. The rest of your communique made it seem like you had fairly high hopes for them.

-Chellian Foreign Ministry

"What a fucking powder keg those years were..."
Memoirs of a chellian in gibraltar.
Wanderjar
14-10-2006, 19:42
OOC: I'm still thinking about it, its going to be a hard choice as I know some inside the GASN don't want me and they are potentially fratenzing with my enemys.

I have no problem with you.
imported_Illior
15-10-2006, 02:59
TO: The Chellian Foreign Ministry
From: (The lady I made the Rep but I'm too lazy to check her name)
I wouldn't call the power and respect NATO held during it's prime a bad fate, and I truly hope that GASN does indeed reach that level of power and respect, and I guess the RWC was a bad example, but they did command some respect. I meant this as more of a hope that GASN would be respected in the world community, and that the new transformation would help a good bit, although the years of NATO were unstable more than volatile come to think of it.


(The lady I made the Rep but I'm too lazy to check her name)
Kanami
15-10-2006, 03:53
To: GASN HQ,

From: The Rep. of Kanami

Kanami is intrested in Re-applying to GASN, and we apologize for the lateness of our aplication, as it's been under debate about our possible re-instatment. We hope you will accept us.

Karou Kamiah-Minister of Foreing Affairs

Elenore Romney-Prime Minister
Nor nuin Giliath
15-10-2006, 11:16
To: GASN HQ
From: Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Nor nuin Giliath

Subject: Applying for the membership

The Kingdom of Nor nuin Giliath is interested to apply for the membership of GASN. Nor nuin Giliath has strong belive in freedom, peace and democracy.

The people of Nor nuin Giliath hope that this application will be approved by the GASN.

Signed,

OOC: Hope this is alright.
Cravan
15-10-2006, 15:28
The nations of Kanami and Nor nuin Giliath have been added to the pending members list.

@Antigir: Formal IC request, please.
Antigr
15-10-2006, 17:56
Don't get involved in too many alliances now, Antigr.

Also, I have posted a thread that should get my nation back on track. It's Reformation and Restoration (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?threadid=503147). Hope to see some of you there!

That yes or no?
Shazbotdom
15-10-2006, 21:00
That yes or no?

OOC:
You need to type up an OFFICIAL diplomatic message. Such as the ones that Kanami and Nor nuin Giliath typed out. Until that time i doubt your request will be taken.
Cravan
15-10-2006, 21:10
OOC:
You need to type up an OFFICIAL diplomatic message. Such as the ones that Kanami and Nor nuin Giliath typed out. Until that time i doubt your request will be taken.

OOC: Thank you, Shaz. But now that I edited it into the main page I don't want anyone to tell people who say "Can I join?" I want to see if they actually read the charter. =P If they didn't I'll just ignore their post.

But yes, Antigr, as I said you must make a formal IC request before I accept you.
North Tolemac
15-10-2006, 21:19
The Community of North Tolemac humbly requests permission to join your fine alliance. We are not an aggressive nation, but we do pledge to come to the defense of your alliance should be called upon to do so.

Good day.

-Henry Logan
Foreign Affairs
Cravan
15-10-2006, 21:22
North Tolemac has been added to the list of pending members.
North Tolemac
15-10-2006, 21:35
North Tolemac has been added to the list of pending members.

We thank you for adding us to your alliance as a "pending member". We wish to know if there is anything we can do to encourage our acceptance as full members?

Good day.

-Henry Logan
Foreign Affairs
Cravan
15-10-2006, 21:36
((OOC: Just prove yourself as a capable RPer and after two weeks a thread will be created in the General Assembly where two seasoned members must endorse you. Of course we'll also look at your ideology, etc. =) ))
Northford
15-10-2006, 21:37
Crave, can you pop on msn anytime soon?

If not, it's cool.... I just wanted to pick your brain about something.

@Illior, if you're reading this. I saw your bump, and will respond when I get a chance, but it's almost 10 pm in the UK, so appologies if I don't respond until tomorrow.
imported_Illior
15-10-2006, 21:37
@Illior, if you're reading this. I saw your bump, and will respond when I get a chance, but it's almost 10 pm in the UK, so appologies if I don't respond until tomorrow.

No biggie, I know the feeling.
Cravan
15-10-2006, 21:38
Crave, can you pop on msn anytime soon?

If not, it's cool.... I just wanted to pick your brain about something.

@Illior, if you're reading this. I saw your bump, and will respond when I get a chance, but it's almost 10 pm in the UK, so appologies if I don't respond until tomorrow.

I'm on.
The Aeson
15-10-2006, 21:39
We thank you for adding us to your alliance as a "pending member". We wish to know if there is anything we can do to encourage our acceptance as full members?

Good day.

-Henry Logan
Foreign Affairs

OOC: RP well.
Zackaroth
15-10-2006, 23:39
The nation Of Zackaroth would like to join this alliance in hopes of forging new friendship with other nation and protecting and being protected by strong allies. We where currently a little iffy about joining alliances but with a recent Oil Boom in our country we wish to have a little extra protection. Of course allaince members get a discount. We hope to get an answer soon.


Aimless Von Strangaild,

High Leader of Zackaroth
Cravan
15-10-2006, 23:43
Zackaroth is now a pending member.
Ackistan
15-10-2006, 23:55
Greetings from the Republic of Ackistan!

The government of Ackistan wishes to encourage your alliance to give generously to the war ravaged nations of Kurdun and Naasha.

Peace has been recently declared in that region. We wish to reward them for choosing peace over war, and encourage you to do the same.

Best wishes,
Angelina Whittaker
Secretary of State

OOC: There is a thread labeled fundraising to post your donations.
Antigr
17-10-2006, 16:09
OOC: Thank you, Shaz. But now that I edited it into the main page I don't want anyone to tell people who say "Can I join?" I want to see if they actually read the charter. =P If they didn't I'll just ignore their post.

But yes, Antigr, as I said you must make a formal IC request before I accept you.

Well,here goes;

To:The Global Alliance of Sovereign Nations (GASN)
From:Lord Governor Joe Martin of Antigr
Re:Possible GASN Membership

The Federation of Antigr would like to join this alliance,as Antigr needs Allies.
We hope you will consider and accept our request to join GASN.
Wanderjar
17-10-2006, 16:11
Well,here goes;

To:The Global Alliance of Sovereign Nations (GASN)
From:Lord Governor Joe Martin of Antigr
Re:Possible GASN Membership

The Federation of Antigr would like to join this alliance,as Antigr needs Allies.
We hope you will consider and accept our request to join GASN.

Or, if they refuse you, you can always join the Wanderjarian Commonwealth...
Northford
17-10-2006, 19:30
Or, if they refuse you, you can always join the Wanderjarian Commonwealth...

I'm not genius here, but I'm sure Craven doesn't appreciate you advertising here.

Perhaps that should be done over TG Wanderjar?

Considering you're still a validating member, it doesn't do you any favours.

Dude, I want you in, but simply put, don't go out of your wayu to piss Crave off.

'nuff said.
Cravan
17-10-2006, 20:08
OOC: Any advertisers this time around will probably be reported. Please don't do so again, Wander. ;D


Antigr is hereby a pending member.
Wanderjar
17-10-2006, 22:33
OOC: Any advertisers this time around will probably be reported. Please don't do so again, Wander. ;D


Antigr is hereby a pending member.


OOC: Dude, I was kidding.

the joke being, how many times, when we've been accepting members that is, have you ever not accepted someone?!?!?
Cravan
17-10-2006, 22:39
OOC: It's going to start happening, mind you. I'm not accepting just anyone anymore. People will have to work for membership. The last new applicant to sign up on the forums was Questers, which says something about their chances already.
Magic Sorcery
18-10-2006, 02:02
From the Imperial House, Her Highness Empress Kinimoto


Dear Respected Leaders,

If you will please accept our re-application to GASN, we would be much obliged. Thank you for your consideration.

Coordially,
Sakura Kinimoto
Cravan
18-10-2006, 02:57
OOC: I just want to clear something up. Judging by your name, I'm assuming you use magic. Exactly how fantasy are you? Because this is an MT/low-PMT alliance.
Magic Sorcery
18-10-2006, 03:06
I like to see me as a mix. I play PMT as well as MT, I mean I put limitations on my self and my abilities, I've fought in purely MT/PMT wars as my nation with purely MT-PMT capabilties. I've found my self to hate the tech levels, because it has become almost an excuse for nations to shun me. But I can sense you'll likely do the same, so you might as well go ahead and just count me out, everyone else does.
Spooty
21-10-2006, 21:32
(OOC: I'm home again! I had computer troubles but I'm expecting you didn't even realise I was gone, I wasn't in the last GASN but I so wanted to be)

Telegram from De SURS to De GVVN (OOC:badly translated Dutch of GASN, it means Global Treaty of Free Nations but the sentiment is the same)

De Socialistisch Unie Republik van Saartie wishes to join the GASN, we have a standing military force of 3,000,000 soldiers (OOC: no defence spending, edited spending so 10% of Education goes to Defence, hope that's alright) to assist in the defence of other nations, we hope that you can respond soon and with good news.

Premier Brakka Kristel
Prime Minister Akko Toops
Undershi
22-10-2006, 06:39
From: The Undershi Ministry of Foreign Affairs
To: The GASN Governing Council
Re: An End to Hostilities

The Corporate Alliance and the Global Alliance of Soverign Nations have fought each other fiercly and brutally across several nations, leading to hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of deaths and billions of dollars worth of property damage and military expenditure. Neither side has proven decisively victorious on all fronts, and there seems to be no end in sight to the fighting. We, therefore, would like to suggest a possible peace agreement, to be discussed in the conference that ThePeople'sFreedom proposed. We believe that, at this point, peace would be the best outcome for all parties concerned. We await your reply to this request for reason.
Hurtful Thoughts
22-10-2006, 07:15
I may only be a (re)validating member, but I'd most likely agree to the terms provided I knew what they were...

Did I resend my IC validation post yet?
Groznyj
22-10-2006, 07:49
The Republic of Groznyj would offically like to join the GASN.
ooc: I'll be rping mainly in the upandcomming 3rd Kraven War if you want to check it out.
Shazbotdom
22-10-2006, 08:20
***OFFICIAL IMPERIAL PROCLIMATION***
http://usera.imagecave.com/CaptainDeath/Flags/shazbotdomflag.jpg
TO: GASN Membership
FROM: Mr. Larry William, Miniser of Foreign Relations
ENCRYPTED: LEVEL 5

We do not feel that Undershi and the Corporate Alliance are trustworthy. Although if you feel that there should be a try at peace then the Dark Empire of Shazbotdom will stand behind whichever decision that the Governing Council makes. We stand by Militarilly and Morally with the GASN, through thick and thin, good and bad.
North Tolemac
22-10-2006, 08:36
Coded Message

To: GASN Alliance
Re: CA & GASN Peace Agreement

While North Tolemac may only be a minor pending GASN member, we wish to encourage our friends to continue their efforts against the Corporate Alliance. That alliance is nothing short of evil. Defeating them is worthy of our best efforts, and nothing short of a Corporate Alliance surrender should be accepted. We believe accepting anything less will be viewed as a sign of weakness, which will only embolden them.

It is with great regret that North Tolemac must confess that we have done little to battle the Corporate Alliance ourselves. While our nation's military is unimpressive by GASN and CA standards that is no excuse. Effective immediately, our navy will be mobilized to assist in enforcing the CA embargo.

Good day.

- Henry Logan
Foreign Affairs

End Message
Hurtful Thoughts
22-10-2006, 08:42
Except undershi isn't really CA, and we are more so after Griffencrest Corp.

At least that was my slant so that the entire CA war became legit...

But yes, CA is up on our list of terrorist organizations to topple.
Shazbotdom
22-10-2006, 08:51
OOC:
Hurtful Thoughts, According to the CA Orriginal Post, Undershi is part of the Corporate Alliance and thats what i'm going with until he proves that he's not part of the CA and leaves it or something.
Dephire
22-10-2006, 08:56
Message from: Jonathan Vega & Alexander Ra'Baal
To: Global Alliance of Sovereign Nations

"Baal and I have discussed some matters presently at hand, and have found that we are to ensure that the peace deals are pulled through. Any violator will hereby be reprimanded and stripped of their power. Dephire is on the verge to complete recovery, and thus will be at the ready if need arises. We are sure enough that if such treaty is broken, the violator would wish to not have done so.

Currently in Control:

Five Godsend
Twenty Thousand HellKnights
Three Hundred Thousand DeathKnights
Five Million Soldiers

We do not, however, include our forces in Danteri at the present time for they are too far away to be able to contact. If we were to, then that would be an additional twelve million ground soldiers.

I, Jonathan Vega, thank the GASN for hearing this news. If you do so wish to assist in the recovery of our nation, then please do so."
Hurtful Thoughts
22-10-2006, 09:13
Snippy

Nations so far
Griffincrest Corporation, Blackhelm Confederacy
Toopoxican Organisation, Toopoxia
No Taxes
Beiraq
Spartanox
Royal Code
Aspen Investment Group, Siap
The Kraven Corporation
Sochatopian Manufacturing Corporation, Sochatopia
Helexeo
Zachyd
ArmsDiscounters Inc., Bonstock
Undershi
RFF
Deserted Territories
The Rastoran Syndicate
31337 Soup
Maldorians
Peoples Republic of Hurtful Thoughts
General Resources/Red Mafia, Leafanistan
Achmara
Blainesville
Rulan Industries Ltd., Ansuria

OOC: Nice stuff on the charter No Taxes
And on the forum Toops http://s14.invisionfree.com/Corporate_Alliance/

New Ausha has betrayed us.

It also lists me as a member...

The list needs updating...
Cravan
22-10-2006, 16:00
Someone remind me to update the lists and whatnot later. I have a date with the Battlefield 2142 demo.
Undershi
22-10-2006, 16:06
Honorable members of the GASN Governing Commitee... the Empire of Undershi is currently a member of the Corporate Alliance, and has gone to war with you over your attacks against a nation allied with us - namely Blackhelm. We have little love for Grifencrest as a corporation, but we are loyal to our allies. We hesitated to enter the war, because we knew it would turn out like this. Hundreds of thousands of dead, billions of dollars worth of damages, and for what? Bragging rights? Glory? Such concepts are meaningless when compared to the devestation that has been wrought on TWSP, Blackhelm and New Ausha, and which might soon be wrought on TPF and my own home nation. We want peace - this fighting has gone on too long for all concerned. We will not betray our allies, on that much we are clear, but we hope that a peaceful solution beneficial to all parties concerned might soon be found.
Northford
22-10-2006, 16:32
Someone remind me to update the lists and whatnot later. I have a date with the Battlefield 2142 demo.

Crave, you got a link to the demo ...**looks forward to the game**
Wanderjar
22-10-2006, 16:36
Crave, you got a link to the demo ...**looks forward to the game**

....Me too? *Drools*
Southeastasia
22-10-2006, 16:56
[OOC: Bah, Battlefield 2142! I'm hoping that Electronic Arts will actually satiate the desire of the Command and Conquer community with their announced project of what's to come: C&C3!]
Wanderjar
22-10-2006, 17:01
[OOC: Bah, Battlefield 2142! I'm hoping that Electronic Arts will actually satiate the desire of the Command and Conquer community with their announced project of what's to come: C&C3!]

As do I man, as do I.....*Drools still yet....*
Cravan
23-10-2006, 20:53
((Links are all over the internet, really. Mirrors every which way. Right now I don't have one onhand, though, so Google should suffice. ;) Death to those PAC bastards! (Note, though, I suggest against buying the game itself since it's loaded with ads and marketing spyware, etc. The demo works as a long-term solution for me. See you on the battlefield.

I'm also looking forward to CnC:3, but I'm afraid EA will screw with it to the point of making it awful. They tend to do that. I'm surprised 2142 turned out as fun as it is.))

Spooty is hereby on the pending list.


((Although it was in character, Groznyj, would you mind making it more indepth? I'm sorry if I seem like an ass, but we had alot of entry posts like that the last time around, and I'd rather we had some more indepth stuff.))
Shazbotdom
23-10-2006, 20:56
OOC:
There is a demo download on www.gamespot.com for Battlefield 2142. I tried downloading it on my computer but it isn't supported by Windows 2000 and i don't have the cash to upgrade to XP....sucks for me.
Dephire
23-10-2006, 21:19
OOC:
EA better not fuck up C&C 3! I have been a C&C fan since TS!
Carbandia
23-10-2006, 21:22
OOC:
EA better not fuck up C&C 3! I have been a C&C fan since TS!
I can do you one better, I have been a fan since Dune 2, and that's the game that pretty much invented the resource system that C&C uses to this day:p

That having been said I have long since lost faith in EA..
Dephire
23-10-2006, 21:26
I can do you one better, I have been a fan since Dune 2, and that's the game that pretty much invented the resource system that C&C uses to this day:p

That having been said I have long since lost faith in EA..

Heh. I fell in-love with Westwood. I have no flippen idea why they disbanned.
Questers
23-10-2006, 21:30
Because EA made them do shit they didn't want to, half the company agreed and the other half left because EA are twats and screwed up Westwood.
Dephire
23-10-2006, 21:37
I thought that the graphics for Generals were decent, but hell...RA2 had better soldiers! They really fucked up calling it Command & Conquer. It wasn't even the same!
Questers
23-10-2006, 21:46
Well, according to C+C Generals, US Army Rangers shoot Chinese people with tree trunks, so...
Dephire
23-10-2006, 21:58
Well, according to C+C Generals, US Army Rangers shoot Chinese people with tree trunks, so...

Some high-tech weapons we got.:rolleyes:
Liberated New Ireland
23-10-2006, 22:34
...I didn't realise "GASN" was code for "Command and Conquer".
The World Soviet Party
23-10-2006, 22:43
Do you support Big Brother?
Do you support The Party?
Do you support the sacrifices your forefathers made to defend Oceania?
Don't let Eurasia remove the most basic right of Free Speech.
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
Shazbotdom
23-10-2006, 23:53
***OFFICIAL IMPERIAL PROCLIMATION***
http://usera.imagecave.com/captaindeath/Flags/shazbotdomflag.jpg
To: Membership of the Global Alliance of Sovergn Nations (GASN)
From: Mr. Larry Williams, Minister of Foreign Affairs

We extend an invitation for the GASN Membership to open an Embasy in the Dark Empire of Shazbotdom. Please visit This Thead (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=466717) and send an official request for an Embasy. Please make note in your request that you are a part of the Global Alliance of Sovergn Nations and your Embasy will be granted GREEN Status. We thank you for your time.
Hurtful Thoughts
24-10-2006, 05:48
Do you support Big Brother?
Do you support The Party?
Do you support the sacrifices your forefathers made to defend Oceania?
Don't let Eurasia remove the most basic right of Free Speech.
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY

Might want to check what NS region I'm in...
Just for kicks an giggles.

It begins with an O...

And yes, I do support The World Soviet Party.

Big brother went missing though... But we're still supportive of him.
The World Soviet Party
24-10-2006, 16:53
Snip

Oh, :p

Just taking a jab at Questers's sig :rolleyes:
Northford
24-10-2006, 17:29
Holy. Shit.

Hataria as made a thread condemming the GASN.

Wii R teh los3!!
Hurtful Thoughts
27-10-2006, 04:29
Copy-pasted for those who don't go to GASN offsite

Leader Milo approaches an empty podium, in a nearly empty room, and addresses those who had chosen to attend:

"Members, validating members, affiliates, and former members of the GASN, it is with a heavy heart that we, the People's Republic Of Hurtful Thoughts, must cease to be an official member with the GASN, due to our unpopularity during a recent reorganization, for better or for worse, the alliance changes.

We joined the GASN, not trying to exploit it, not seeking it for shelter, or any of that, we ran across the alliance by accident on the battlefields of Chizeland, and we had been instantly impressed by their ideals, and their organization, and in an effort to further each other's goals of everyone respectiong everyone else's lands and beliefs, even the ones we may not entirely agree with."

[nods at a communist, a socialist, a capitalist, a monarchy, a democracy, and a dictatorship; then continues:]

"We supported the GASN at every opprotunity, so far as our resources would allow without bankrupting our nation, when a terrorist organization declared war upn this very alliance itself and attacked what we were supposed to defend we defended it, and as the conflicts escalated, we took the fight to the terrorist headquarters itself, and enacted sanctions to prevent further escalation of the conflict"

[Pauses, looks at his feet, takes a deep breath, and faces the front of the room and resumes, it almost looks as if he is crying]

"When outside nations took legal actions, and declared GASN and their members to be acting out of accordance with their own charter, we defended them... we defended them..."

"And now, we leave you, not because we did anything wrong, except that perhaps we didn't do enough, as a man is not an island, a soverign nation is not to be isolated, and should never under any circumstance be, an isolated case - an... abnormality - among nations.... all nations have a right to their own soveriegnty."

[Pauses, takes a drink of water, clears tears from his eyes]

"We saw the GASN as an alliance for the better, and as we leave you, we still do, and we shall contune to support the GASN cause, wherever it may be. Thank you for your time."
Hurtful Thoughts
27-10-2006, 05:08
^ obsolete ^

I'm in, pending terms of my probationaty membership...

Apparently I jumped the issue by 3 hours and 2 minutes...

Edit:

Well written though for something I just ad libbed in 15 minutes with one hand typing as the other drank coffee...

K, I cheated, I used 2 hands for some parts...
Anglad
27-10-2006, 05:18
SCRATCH THAT:

For now, I'll wait to talk to Cravan before posting the terms of your membership. Congrats though and welcome back.
Hurtful Thoughts
27-10-2006, 05:24
Wait, I left?

Bart: "Stan Lee, what are you doing back at the comic book store?"
Comicbookguy: "He never left..."
Questers
27-10-2006, 14:49
Holy. Shit.

Hataria as made a thread condemming the GASN.

Wii R teh los3!!

o no u betre watch owt cos sune da 9 00 TUN BMBOBS WIL BE DROPIN ON UR CAPTIAL
Northford
27-10-2006, 15:12
oli cr49!.

Ran! Ran 2 da ills!

hehe, "The kitty is down there somewhere... carry on looking"

Anyway, this is a kinda bumpo for Aeson to post in the riots thread.
Cravan
27-10-2006, 16:29
The riots thread has really proceeded too much for me to get involved, but I'm still waiting for a response from Hataria. It took me forever to think of the right way to word some of that stuff. =/
Northford
27-10-2006, 17:34
Thats not a problem, mate...

Although, one thing, at the end of this thing, when my Government has done what my Government will do, could ya give me some kind of Government Statement?

When things progress to the end, I get a feeling you'll want to, regardless.
Cravan
27-10-2006, 17:48
Sure thing, mate.
Boico
28-10-2006, 15:41
I, president Robert Newton of The USSB wishes to make The USSB part of The GASN. My nation is lacking only the two endorsements from GASN nations. The USSB has been looking for a powerful group such as this for many years. I hope my application will be eccepted.

Yours Sincerely
Robert Newtown
Cravan
28-10-2006, 16:12
Boico is hereby on the pending members list.

Also, to all pending members: The validation period is meant to test how active you are in addition to the points listed above. So far there is one pending member who has done this...
Dephire
29-10-2006, 15:58
Cravan, what are your thoughts on Clandonia Prime and Hataria?
Cravan
29-10-2006, 16:15
Hataria mixes OOC and IC just a teency bit too much... And that is very, very, very dangerous.

Clandonia Prime, ICly, is a loose cannon. OOCly he's an OK dude. But IC is all that matters in your little problem, and he's also pretty dangerous.
Dephire
29-10-2006, 16:21
So then, should I get rid of Clandonia's membership completely...or should I just set him back to 'Pending Status'? Also, I'm sorry for posting this on your alliance's thread even if it is my alliance's problem...but this is the first time that I have been able to get on in awhile and it's the first time I can catch you.
Cravan
29-10-2006, 16:23
I dunno, it's up to you. Like you said, your problem. ;D
Antigr
29-10-2006, 16:26
I've been watching this thread nearly every day now,and nothing exciting's happening.

No wars. Awwww.
Dephire
29-10-2006, 16:33
I've been watching this thread nearly every day now,and nothing exciting's happening.

No wars. Awwww.

Then you probably should go to our thread..because I'm seriously thinking into doing some ADAN operations...:D
Clandonia Prime
29-10-2006, 18:30
Then you probably should go to our thread..because I'm seriously thinking into doing some ADAN operations...:D

OOC: Can we go newb hunting against the ones who are deciding to blockade them?
The World Soviet Party
29-10-2006, 19:10
OOC: Can we go newb hunting against the ones who are deciding to blockade them?

No if you dont want to get intimidated by me, Ackistan, Trivalvia and the whole lot of nations who just dont like you.
Hurtful Thoughts
29-10-2006, 19:28
OOC: Can we go newb hunting against the ones who are deciding to blockade them?

Ummmmmmmmmmm

No.

It is their right to be as self-rightous and crazy as they please.
Even you should know that.
Dephire
29-10-2006, 19:29
-.-

Clandonia Prime. Please go to our private forums, you have a roasting awaiting you.
Carbandia
29-10-2006, 19:38
-.-

Clandonia Prime. Please go to our private forums, you have a roasting awaiting you.
Those forums in question being the ADAN (assuming you have private forums for that alliance), or the GASN ones? Either way I'd like to at least see those..discussions.
Jaredcohenia
29-10-2006, 19:39
The Socialist Federal Republic of Jaredcohenia wishes to rejoin the GASN.



this post has been ignored for 3 months :'(
Dephire
29-10-2006, 19:39
Oh, the ADAN ones. You can sign up for the forums, they aren't fully privatized quite yet. So you can sign up and be involved in. Hehehe.
Cravan
29-10-2006, 20:15
What are the requirements for affiliation?

I'd rather be affiliated at the moment than a member...I think.

I've been putting off the amendment which adds the rules for affiliation. Guess I'll put that before the assembly now.
Northford
29-10-2006, 23:04
Without meanning to sound rude, Dephire, but it was spam that clogged up the last GASN thread. I wonder if ranting on about another alliance, in the GASN thread (which you're not, presently, I believe, a member,) counts as spam?

What do you think Crave? I don't know about you, but I find that kind of thing Mighty annoying.
Dephire
29-10-2006, 23:20
To be honest with you Northford, it wasn't all about another Alliance, it was about Clandonia Prime. :rolleyes:
Shazbotdom
29-10-2006, 23:27
-.-

Clandonia Prime. Please go to our private forums, you have a roasting awaiting you.

Then you probably should go to our thread..because I'm seriously thinking into doing some ADAN operations...:D

Oh, the ADAN ones. You can sign up for the forums, they aren't fully privatized quite yet. So you can sign up and be involved in. Hehehe.

Looks to me like these three are all about your alliance. Keep it off of this thread please. Thanks
Cravan
30-10-2006, 02:03
Agreed. Please and thank you, Deph.
Dephire
31-10-2006, 05:15
Apparently no one else saw that they were direct replies to other people's questions. Or is it just me? Has to be...oh well.
Northford
01-11-2006, 22:56
@ Everyone: Appologies for not replyin on the GASN Riots thread some of you are active in. I will do a reply as/when I can, but things have been kinda stressful latey, and I've not had the will to actually write a reply down.

Appologies to everyone.
Shazbotdom
04-11-2006, 05:44
Northford, see my Embasy Exchange thread as soon as you can and apply for an Embasy. I already have a spot set aside for you to check that first.

Thread: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=466717
Kanami
04-11-2006, 05:59
why am I in red?
Shazbotdom
04-11-2006, 06:07
why am I in red?

OOC:
You were not active at all in any GASN Operations and you were not active at all on the GASN Offsite Forums so you didn't get the required Endorcements for full membership during the vote between the dates of October 29 through November 1st.
Kanami
04-11-2006, 06:08
Off-Site Forums just die off, that's why I don't go to them
Shazbotdom
04-11-2006, 06:11
Off-Site Forums just die off, that's why I don't go to them

OOC:
Well ours havent. And not participating in anything GASN related hurt you. During the time of the reorganization, we dropped a lot of inactive members because they didn't not participate in the offsite forums. To be a member you need to be active both in game and on the forums. Thats how it goes.
Aequatio
06-11-2006, 16:38
Salutations all, just posting as a tag and a quick announcement on my quiet return to NS after a rather devastating personal tragedy. But now I'm ready to make a difference once again.
North Tolemac
06-11-2006, 18:53
Salutations all, just posting as a tag and a quick announcement on my quiet return to NS after a rather devastating personal tragedy. But now I'm ready to make a difference once again.


Welcome back.

We haven't met, but I joined GASN during your absence.
Aequatio
06-11-2006, 18:56
Welcome back.

We haven't met, but I joined GASN during your absence.

As to be expected, I knew the organization would grow. Welcome to the club.
Shazbotdom
06-11-2006, 19:52
Salutations all, just posting as a tag and a quick announcement on my quiet return to NS after a rather devastating personal tragedy. But now I'm ready to make a difference once again.

Welcome back mang. Pull up a chair at the bar, i'll buy you a drink.
Cravan
06-11-2006, 21:05
Salutations all, just posting as a tag and a quick announcement on my quiet return to NS after a rather devastating personal tragedy. But now I'm ready to make a difference once again.

Welcome back, buddy. Things have, overall, been pretty quiet. Good to see you, though.
The World Soviet Party
06-11-2006, 21:31
As to be expected, I knew the organization would grow. Welcome to the club.

Good to have you back dude :D

*Gets ready to buy a few ships*
Dephire
08-11-2006, 08:52
:eek: I...I...I thought you were dead! -fetal position-
Northford
08-11-2006, 22:35
I'm posting this here because you guys are the one it effects most, and I don't really warrent a thread... but until further notice (prolli late december), consider me afk from nationstates, due to school issues..

5 fucking a levels.

Fuck,
Hurtful Thoughts
09-11-2006, 07:42
:eek: I...I...I thought you were dead! -fetal position-

Yeah, you been away long time...
Dephire
09-11-2006, 23:28
Yeah, you been away long time...

Well, from the GASN-related stuff. Hehehehe.:p
Antigr
11-11-2006, 11:38
Nothing much happening here.no wars.shame.

Am i a member yet
Dephire
11-11-2006, 20:24
-Kicks over a rock.-

You guys bore me some times...hehehehehe.:D
Neo-Erusea
12-11-2006, 14:55
Friendly Neo-Erusean BUMP


PS I was so bored I made this pic. It can out pretty nice (except for the outer lines) and I figure I'll post it here.

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n220/Neo-Erusea/summit.jpg
Brydog
12-11-2006, 15:14
I was a member, so I wish to rejoin.
Cravan
12-11-2006, 15:17
Nice one, NE. :D I'll have to use it for the thousands of pictures I have on the forum.

@Brydog
I know you just scrolled down through the charter since your post is missing something... Sorry to nitpick and seem like an ass, but it's towards the bottom... Just trying to prevent what happened before, you know?
Brydog
12-11-2006, 15:26
OOC: Sorry

To: The Nation of Craven
From:Liberal Democratic Republic of Brydog

We wish re-enter the alliance, we hope this new GASN will be a new light in a dark world.

Signed,
Robert S. Ericson
President of the Republic and Lord Chancellor of the Commonwealths
Cravan
12-11-2006, 15:33
OOC: Hey, no prob. Sorry to seem like an ass or anything but it's gotta be done.

*****************

The nation of Brydog is hereby pending.
Dephire
14-11-2006, 04:05
OOC:
Guys, how the hell did the CA have the ghall to think they won against you?
Hurtful Thoughts
14-11-2006, 06:13
OOC:
Guys, how the hell did the CA have the ghall to think they won against you?

They got bored, and they ARE crazy....
Questers
14-11-2006, 09:17
I'm posting this here because you guys are the one it effects most, and I don't really warrent a thread... but until further notice (prolli late december), consider me afk from nationstates, due to school issues..

5 fucking a levels.

Fuck,

=(
Carbandia
14-11-2006, 12:43
OOC:
Guys, how the hell did the CA have the ghall to think they won against you?
Ask Blackhelm, mate..I have no idea
Dephire
14-11-2006, 22:30
OOC:
Thing is that I would ask Blackhelm, but he keeps on ignoring me. Ah, to hell with him. Might just as well blow him and his loverly corporation to smitherines.
Deserted Territories
14-11-2006, 23:41
OOC: Ah, to hell with him. Might just as well blow him and his loverly corporation to smitherines.

Ah, I'm glad to see people are still coming to this conclusion. God knows your not the first.
Anglad
14-11-2006, 23:47
Yeah, I haven't figured out why we haven't destroyed them yet.
Dephire
14-11-2006, 23:54
OOC:
I really don't know. Anyways, I'm getting rather tired of the same old crap. I need a real enemy to face, and I also need an alliance to join. Oh well. Anyways, how is everything going in the GASN? It seems rather quiet and seclusive now.
Hurtful Thoughts
15-11-2006, 01:50
Yeah, I haven't figured out why we haven't destroyed them yet.

Simple, he keeps logging on to rebuild himself as soon as the war is over.

He also has a hierarchy, so assasinations don't seem to change anything...
Blackhelm Confederacy
15-11-2006, 02:11
Simple, he keeps logging on to rebuild himself as soon as the war is over.

He also has a hierarchy, so assasinations don't seem to change anything...

...are you talking about me? If you are, what assasinations? Or rebuilding?
Hurtful Thoughts
15-11-2006, 02:17
...are you talking about me? If you are, what assasinations? Or rebuilding?

Didn't we invade you?
Hence reconstruction.


And didn't you claim Claud was killed, to be replaced by his son?
Hence assasination.
Blackhelm Confederacy
15-11-2006, 02:20
Yea, but only TPF made it to shore, and that was a massacre. I didn't only long on to rebuild, I did quite the opposite and after throwing back the invasion proceeded to assault other anti-CA nations at home and assist allies who had fallen under attack.

Claudius never died, Leafanistan claimed that to both scam you for money and keep him hidden (This is OOC and cannot be used). Havn't you noticed that Tiberius has not sent a letter yet, and all the ones I have sent were sent by Jack Phoenixclaw, Chairman of the Board, Griffincrest Oil Inc?
Hurtful Thoughts
15-11-2006, 03:28
Yea, but only TPF made it to shore, and that was a massacre. I didn't only long on to rebuild, I did quite the opposite and after throwing back the invasion proceeded to assault other anti-CA nations at home and assist allies who had fallen under attack.

Claudius never died, Leafanistan claimed that to both scam you for money and keep him hidden (This is OOC and cannot be used). Havn't you noticed that Tiberius has not sent a letter yet, and all the ones I have sent were sent by Jack Phoenixclaw, Chairman of the Board, Griffincrest Oil Inc?

What letter(s)?

And I already know OOCly about the fake assasination.
For all intents and purposses, he's gone.
If he isn't, well, someone will find out.

And then I'll just have to send Agent McCloud on you...
Blackhelm Confederacy
15-11-2006, 03:31
What letter(s)?

And I already know OOCly about the fake assasination.
For all intents and purposses, he's gone.
If he isn't, well, someone will find out.

And then I'll just have to send agent McCloud on you...

Whenever I talk to someone IC, it is in the form of a letter addressed from Jack Phoenixclaw. And no one has found out yet.
Teraq
15-11-2006, 03:35
Whenever I talk to someone IC, it is in the form of a letter addressed from Jack Phoenixclaw. And no one has found out yet.

OOC: On the other hand, considering this...


Tiberius Griffincrest has been announced as temporary CEO of the Griffincrest Corporation until Claudius, his father, resurfaces from hiding.


...
Northford
15-11-2006, 17:33
Alright guy's, I'm back, only to finish any outstanding RP's I have going.....
Asgarnieu
18-11-2006, 21:06
Asgarnieu officially reapplies to join the GASN. Thank you.
Antigr
26-11-2006, 12:21
*yawn*

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz................................. .............................................
Cravan
26-11-2006, 14:50
I apologize, Asg. Haven't checked the thread lately. You're on the pending members list.

@Antigir
I'm sorry, but your name is in red. You've been rejected. Sorry I or someone else didn't get around to telling you.
Asgarnieu
26-11-2006, 21:57
Thanks, Crav. I hope I finally get in...
New Ausha
02-12-2006, 00:36
We are facing possible attack by the CA for our involvment in the potential overthrow of the Blackhelm goverment. We require assistance, as mandated in behavior towards fellow GASN members. Thank you. Updates will follow.
Shazbotdom
02-12-2006, 02:31
ENCRYPTED ALLIANCE TRANSMISSION

If this conflict is a direct result of an offensive by your nation then it doesn't fall under the Charter of the Global Alliance of Sovergn Nations. We are only abliged to assist in your defence if the attack they made is out of the blue, not as retaliation against something that your nation has done. We appologise but the Dark Empire of Shazbotdom does not see this as a valid reason for us to send troops in for the defence of your nation for a conflict that you started.
Lower Columbia
05-12-2006, 01:04
Official Message from the Ministry of State

As our nation expands its international presence, the desire to participate in alliances comes naturally, for both the economic and military benefits such memberships would bring. While our experience in dealing with other nations has thus far been limited, we hope to increase it through membership in your fine alliance. Lower Columbia is prepared to do what is necessary to comply with the requirements of membership in the GASN, should the Governing Council be so gracious as to allow us the opportunity to prove our nation's merit.

Sincerely,
Erik Kessler
HM Minister of State
Soviet_Union666
05-12-2006, 01:06
http://z7.invisionfree.com/AModifiedWorld/index.php?act=idx
Cravan
05-12-2006, 03:59
http://z7.invisionfree.com/AModifiedWorld/index.php?act=idx

.....And I care why? Welcome to NS. Please remove your ad from my thread before I report it, kthx.

Lower Columbia is hereby on the pending list.
Shazbotdom
06-12-2006, 22:02
.....And I care why? Welcome to NS. Please remove your ad from my thread before I report it, kthx.

I don't think he's gonna do it. I'd just report it and take it out of the quote you did.
Nova Aquaria
06-12-2006, 23:14
The Grand Imperial Republic extends its hand to this noble alliance.


--Emperor Adrian I of Nova Aquaria
Kinstia
08-12-2006, 21:33
The Democratic Republic of Kinstia humbly requests permision to become a member of this alliance.
The World Soviet Party
13-12-2006, 18:16
Assuming the attack Skynet began searching for its possible objective, it assumed by some error that The World Soviet Party had launched the attack and to the horror of missile commanders Skynet began deploying Clandonian nuclear forces to be used. The order was dispatched to the government that the Corporations system of Skynet had malfunctioned and that it had begun targetting TWSP...

I might need some help, anyone up for it?
Carbandia
13-12-2006, 18:18
I might need some help, anyone up for it?
ooc: Right now there is nothing you, or we, can do, ic'ly, as you don't have any knowledge this has happened..your knowledge is purely ooc..
The World Soviet Party
13-12-2006, 18:30
ooc: Right now there is nothing you, or we, can do, ic'ly, as you don't have any knowledge this has happened..your knowledge is purely ooc..

It is now, as I've recieve a message from him, answered and retransmitted it to the whole world.
Carbandia
13-12-2006, 18:33
It is now, as I've recieve a message from him, answered and retransmitted it to the whole world.
Indeed..Just the sad thing is that with my work being such a pain in the ass this time of year, I'm not sure how much real rp I can do..Sorry, mate, but the christmas season is one when I have a literall ton of mail to deliver, each day..:(
Wanderjar
13-12-2006, 19:09
I'll see what I can do. :)
Carbandia
13-12-2006, 19:10
I have a better suggestion..Ignore his thread, and him..He did it for ooc reasons...*is tempted to say what he thinks of cp here, too, but won't, because it could be considered flaming*
New Ausha
16-12-2006, 07:18
Pray tell am I alone in the Blackhelm attack? I just had too rout in the face of 4 enemy fleets. Where are my allies? This began as a GASN attack (fires of change) or at least GASN members taking advantage of Blackhelms civil unrest. So where is allied reinforcement?
Shazbotdom
16-12-2006, 07:24
OOC:
The alliance charter says that we are only abliged to assist if it is an act of aggression by him. Thus, I will not get involved in this as it is a group of our member nations assaulting BC on their own accord and not a sanctioned GASN operation.

If it comes down to it, I will dispatch Medical Supplies, Food Rations, and other non-militaristic items as a nation that is neutral in this conflict. It will be dropped in a zone where both sides can get to it, so it'll be whoever gets there first, gets the stuff.
New Ausha
16-12-2006, 07:41
OOC:
The alliance charter says that we are only abliged to assist if it is an act of aggression by him. Thus, I will not get involved in this as it is a group of our member nations assaulting BC on their own accord and not a sanctioned GASN operation.

If it comes down to it, I will dispatch Medical Supplies, Food Rations, and other non-militaristic items as a nation that is neutral in this conflict. It will be dropped in a zone where both sides can get to it, so it'll be whoever gets there first, gets the stuff.

I simply expected what I provided in return. I noticed my allies going too war, so I supported them. As they retreated, I was conspicuously denied such a dignity, of "allied support" something which has become little too non-exostent in the GASN. If this was a unanimous GASN operation, where was the full support?

As for your offer of rations, we are disgusted that the only way we could recieve support from a fellow member, would be too further endanger soldiers. I am very disheartened too call you my ally. Your rations will be of much use too the CA, where your sympathies obviously lie. Good night, and good luck.
Shazbotdom
16-12-2006, 07:45
I simply expected what I provided in return. I noticed my allies going too war, so I supported them. As they retreated, I was conspicuously denied such a dignity, of "allied support" something which has become little too non-exostent in the GASN. If this was a unanimous GASN operation, where was the full support?

OOC:
But it was not a Unanimous GASN Operation. The Governing Council didn't approve it so it was just a bunch of opportunistic nations wishing to do what they wanted, nothing else. Which is why I will not send any support for this operation.

And I did help to defend other GASN Nations (TWSP During the invasion on him and others) so I know how the CA works. They will try and keep the peace for as long as possible then do a sneak attack against a weaker GASN Nation, all you have to do is wait for it.

And that was an OOC Comment about the rations. Don't take it as an IC view from my nation. My national leaders don't like taking sides in a conflict in which they feel they are being forced into, as in this situation that you are putting my nation in.
New Ausha
16-12-2006, 07:49
OOC:
But it was not a Unanimous GASN Operation. The Governing Council didn't approve it so it was just a bunch of opportunistic nations wishing to do what they wanted, nothing else. Which is why I will not send any support for this operation.

And I did help to defend other GASN Nations (TWSP During the invasion on him and others) so I know how the CA works. They will try and keep the peace for as long as possible then do a sneak attack against a weaker GASN Nation, all you have to do is wait for it.

And that was an OOC Comment about the rations. Don't take it as an IC view from my nation. My national leaders don't like taking sides in a conflict in which they feel they are being forced into, as in this situation that you are putting my nation in.

We did not ask for your political, charter bound loyalty too an ally, but a sense of binding honor, forged in our war with Umwitz. (If you even remmeber this, it was like 5-6 months ago)
Hurtful Thoughts
16-12-2006, 08:02
Pray tell am I alone in the Blackhelm attack? I just had too rout in the face of 4 enemy fleets. Where are my allies? This began as a GASN attack (fires of change) or at least GASN members taking advantage of Blackhelms civil unrest. So where is allied reinforcement?

It's coming, just because I haven't offiicially invaded doesn't mean I don't have combat troops in BC...

I'm mostly going to wi until the confederacy begs us to help him, then I'll officially do something, till then, I'll secretly stoke those fires of change...
Shazbotdom
16-12-2006, 08:05
We did not ask for your political, charter bound loyalty too an ally, but a sense of binding honor, forged in our war with Umwitz. (If you even remmeber this, it was like 5-6 months ago)

OOC:
Yes I do remember it. But what I am saying is that according to the GASN Charter (See: Military Point in OP), if it is an offensive operation, we ARE NOT obligated to assist. The incident with Umvitz was a defensive operation, which we ARE obligated to help with. Thus, if my nation wishes to stay neutral in this conflict, it can.

And we can do without saying that I have 'Sympathies' for the CA, as I don't really give a rats backside about most of their members and refuse to RP with a good majority of their members. So slinging around insults will get you no where with me, it'll just get you on my bad side.
Hurtful Thoughts
16-12-2006, 08:32
And not asking for help in the first place sort of didn't help your problem, if you were having difficulty, swallow your pride and ask for help...

Just because you are drowning doesn't mean people will immediatly see that you are drowning...
Normally, they only notice you were drowning... until you go under, and sometimes, even then, they'll think you are playing a joke on them. So they do nothing until called for help or clearly in distress and on the defensive.
Dephire
19-12-2006, 21:44
"Hello everyone. Nice day, am I correct? Hmm. I'm just checking in to see how everyone is. Please Telegram me if you would like to speak, otherwise...I may not reply on the forums for (possibly) two to three weeks at most."
imported_Illior
19-12-2006, 21:46
Tag... cause I lost my subscription
Laquasa Isle
21-12-2006, 05:39
Hello,

Your league seems to respect Sovereinty. Well, several nations are attacking me, wishing to topple my government.

Thread here: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12115795&posted=1#post12115795
The PeoplesFreedom
21-12-2006, 05:40
OCC: The attack was a response to a terrorist attack. Surely GASN knows about terror.
Nova Brittanica
21-12-2006, 05:41
Hello,

Your league seems to respect Sovereinty. Well, several nations are attacking me, wishing to topple my government because I retalaited to an enemy strike.

Thread here: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12115795&posted=1#post12115795

OOC: I wish to inform the GASN that the war is because he launched a terrorist attack on a skyscraper, and we retaliated.
The World Soviet Party
21-12-2006, 05:44
Laquasa, I've been following your recent war, and your latest posts, and I must say that you are obviously on a "Alliance Joining Spree", hell!, you come to us after asking the CA for help, and ACTO and probably some other alliances as well.

Please, GASN, ignore this guy, for the moment at least.
New Ausha
21-12-2006, 05:47
And not asking for help in the first place sort of didn't help your problem, if you were having difficulty, swallow your pride and ask for help...

Just because you are drowning doesn't mean people will immediatly see that you are drowning...
Normally, they only notice you were drowning... until you go under, and sometimes, even then, they'll think you are playing a joke on them. So they do nothing until called for help or clearly in distress and on the defensive.

Blackhelm stated the same....I linked him too the calls for help. =/
Hurtful Thoughts
21-12-2006, 07:24
Hello,

Your league seems to respect Sovereinty. Well, several nations are attacking me, wishing to topple my government.

Thread here: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=12115795&posted=1#post12115795

It's retaliatory...
You started it from the looks of it.
Carbandia
21-12-2006, 15:32
I'd like to voice my agreement with both Hurty, and TPF..Unless Laquasa would seriosly reconsider his stance on international matters, than it's highly unlikely he would ever get my affirmation..
Kroando
21-12-2006, 19:19
[Regarding Laquasa Isle. I seriously suggest no one RP with him for the time being, simply because he does not know how to. He provoked a war with British Londinium, well aware that doing so would result in E.V.I.L. invading him. I personally warned him of this, if he attacked BL, we would dog pile him. Well, he tried to cover up the attack with a really shitty post about terrorists with pipe bombs blowing up a skyscraper, but we invaded him anyways. He claims we are all godmodding by attacking, because we do not have a good enough reason to do so. This is a blatant violation of the standard rules of RP'ing, and he go's on to say that he does not agree to be invaded, unless it is a 1v1 with BL... however all of us desire to attack. I thuroughly warned him of the consequences, and now he refuses to accept them, picking out nonsense reasons to ignore the attack.

Now he is just OOC'ly bullshitting untill he can find allies to fight the war for him. That is not how you RP, and until he IC'ly responds to the invasion, which is completely realistic, we all need to simply give him the 'silent treatment'. If GASN has any respect for RP, which I know they do, they will ignore him until he changes his ways.]
Laquasa Isle
21-12-2006, 19:42
What do you people not understand about "Closed RPs"? That post was supposed to lead to a closed war thread, but BL knew that I could easily beat him, so he denies this.
Nova Brittanica
21-12-2006, 20:09
What do you people not understand about "Closed RPs"? That post was supposed to lead to a closed war thread, but BL knew that I could easily beat him, so he denies this.

OOC: Except, the war wasn't closed. Face it, the way you've been acting OOCly and ICly, people want to invade you.
Hurtful Thoughts
22-12-2006, 00:44
Closed RP is a bit of a misconception.

It is a limited access RP (meaning you need a direct reason to get involved not the standard: 'my leader saw it on the news and wanted to get involved')

Not surprisingly, similar war against the GASN was on/off/on/ceased* due to a miscommuniction whether it was open or closed.
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*War ended when a peace treaty was signed, war was started when some allies RP killed other allies.

Those injured parties wanted to get revenge, or at least get reparations, but the aggressor reused and chose to view any hostilities as an act of war.

Then their respective alliances kicked in... followed by 3rd parties who wanted to 'get in the open' by causing mayhem.
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And chances are EVIL will not listen to the calls for peace.
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The biggest lynchpin to the arguement, is if BL agreed to a 1v1 closed RP.
Which would be the IC/RL equivilant to claiming they don't need any help to pwn LI.
Dephire
25-12-2006, 01:19
"Guys, I'm sorry for what I just did 2-3 days ago. It was not my intention for Blackhelm to use the information I gave him in that format. If I had known his intentions, I would of hesitated. It was a cheap blow, I know, and I would like your forgiveness."
New Ausha
25-12-2006, 03:15
"Guys, I'm sorry for what I just did 2-3 days ago. It was not my intention for Blackhelm to use the information I gave him in that format. If I had known his intentions, I would of hesitated. It was a cheap blow, I know, and I would like your forgiveness."

....*Throws tomato* *SPLAT!*

Your forgiven. :D
Carbandia
25-12-2006, 03:19
"Guys, I'm sorry for what I just did 2-3 days ago. It was not my intention for Blackhelm to use the information I gave him in that format. If I had known his intentions, I would of hesitated. It was a cheap blow, I know, and I would like your forgiveness."
We all make mistakes, mate..It takes guts to admit to this sort of thing, I know.

I'm not going to judge you, or hate you, for this..Hell..Who knows what I would have done in your position..
Hurtful Thoughts
25-12-2006, 07:52
"Guys, I'm sorry for what I just did 2-3 days ago. It was not my intention for Blackhelm to use the information I gave him in that format. If I had known his intentions, I would of hesitated. It was a cheap blow, I know, and I would like your forgiveness."

Hmm, I feel kinda foolish now, since I didn't want to consider it a possability, mostly for two reasons:

1: You wouldn't fit into what BC called a "traitor within the GASN"
2: You didn't have IC access

I even went so far as to think it was TPF, even though he didn't have any IC acces to that information either, almost solely on the fact he was the first to point the finger at you.

For that I apologise.

Questers fit BCs description up to a certain point, and that was were he only had IC access to half the designs, but I noted his OOC interest in mounting dual turrets onto the Katana class, even though the majority of the GASN ruled in favor of single gun turrets only. It also would have to fail to account for the fact that Questers ICly hates the CA, since it is a 'regulated free market' they are promoting...

And for that, I apologise.

Now I owe Blackhelm a small apology for thinking that he managed to copy-paste the Katana all by himself...

He had help.
I apologise, but you really need to get into your IC paranoid persona BC...

I find it hard to beleive that if I really tried, I could get agents to infiltrate every level of your nation's infrastucture...
(I've already managed to make an airbase disapear, and infiltrate into one of your largest airbases and POW camps, and into your nation's capitol [and remember, 5 agents are still missing and pressumed dead], and you still haven't changed security policy)
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And to Dephire, you sort of broke some of that OOC trust we have with you, we'll still forgive you, but some of us may never trust you again.

Besides, I'm not one to hold grudges...

[Someone points at my rants about NS draft, and GMCMA refferance on Charon thread]

...

Okay... nevermind, but in this case I'll make an exception.
Allanea
25-12-2006, 09:44
If Questers is a member of this alliance, we want to join it too. Consider this an application.
Auralinia
25-12-2006, 09:55
Greetings from Auralinia!

I hereby request the Leadership of GASN to consider The Tribal Kingdom of Auralinia for membership to GASN.

regards,

Ricala, King of Auralinia, Lord Director of the Xeraphian Space League.
Dephire
25-12-2006, 13:37
*Smiles and chuckles.*

"You guys.." :D
Cravan
25-12-2006, 15:56
Both Allanea and Aurulinia are hereby on the pending members list. There is no doubt in my mind both will be members soon enough.
Zackaroth
01-01-2007, 18:45
The nation of Zackaroth would like to extend it's allies in these rather bumpy times and request admission into the GASN.Thank you for reading this message.

James von Strangaild, High Leader of Zackaroth
Cravan
01-01-2007, 18:46
Zackaroth is hereby added to the pending list.
British Londinium
02-01-2007, 04:03
The Britannic Commonwealth of Eurasia seeks admittance to the GASN, believing that we have/will fulfil the membership requirements. On a side note, this is not a "alliance-shopping act," but spurred from our withdrawal from EVIL and the CA, partly forced upon us by a surrender treaty, but partly welcomed by us due to the fact the that those alliances failed to fulfil their obligations to Eurasia.
Cravan
02-01-2007, 04:10
((I was under the impression Prae took your government down. =/ I'll gladly add you to the list, but perhaps we should wait till the war's over?))
British Londinium
02-01-2007, 04:19
OOC: Yes, he did. I meant after the war.
Cravan
02-01-2007, 04:20
OOC: Yes, he did. I meant after the war.

((OOC: Alrighty. I'll add you to the pending right after the war's over. :) ))
British Londinium
02-01-2007, 04:23
OOC: ¡Gracias, señor!