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Operation Re-education OOC thread

Clandonia Prime
09-10-2006, 16:26
The thread of spam and orbats! Post away.
Great Nari
09-10-2006, 16:26
OOC: Sorry, I posted on the main thread. May I still be involved?
Clandonia Prime
09-10-2006, 16:27
Yes you may, right which side you going to be on mine I take it?
Great Nari
09-10-2006, 16:30
Yes you may, right which side you going to be on mine I take it?

Yes. We had an agreement, but I will RP my asking for another one since this thread is different.
Clandonia Prime
09-10-2006, 16:34
OK, so your going to ask in the IC thread then to my government?
Cravan
09-10-2006, 16:42
Curses for being large. ='(
Clandonia Prime
09-10-2006, 16:48
Curses for being large. ='(

There there crave, go play with the big boys and give me the god damn $20 billion!
Great Nari
09-10-2006, 16:49
There there crave, go play with the big boys and give me the god damn $20 billion!

I want 20 billion!
Imperial isa
09-10-2006, 17:03
good to see you having a go again

can you give both sides money
Clandonia Prime
09-10-2006, 17:18
What would be the point of that?
Imperial isa
09-10-2006, 17:27
What would be the point of that?

play one off the other and make the war last longer some would say

but what i did was hit a key at same time i post dam it

so what was left out was give money to both side after the war
The Transylvania
09-10-2006, 18:08
There there crave, go play with the big boys and give me the god damn $20 billion!

Greedy! You already got one trillion USD from me. Just playing, get all the money you can then hide in a underground bunker. Don’t know why you need to hide. Maybe the mutants will try and steal your money.
Clandonia Prime
09-10-2006, 19:14
A wars an expensive thing, nah the mutants just like killing people and eating their bone marrow in an attempt to cure themselves. We just launch thermobarical shells at their shelters.
Clandonia Prime
09-10-2006, 21:06
Ackistan have you launched your massive air attack yet or is it still on its way?
Maldorians
09-10-2006, 21:12
im joining in on Ackinstan's side.
Clandonia Prime
09-10-2006, 21:13
im joining in on Ackinstan's side.


Did you not read a single thing?

No you can't!
Maldorians
09-10-2006, 21:17
where does it say young nations only
Clandonia Prime
09-10-2006, 21:20
where does it say young nations only

In the real thread:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=502520
Naasha
09-10-2006, 21:22
Clandonia, can I take this deployment as a sign of no more cruise missiles headed at Naasha?

Woohoo, long live the little guy!
Maldorians
09-10-2006, 21:22
awww darn. it was worth a try.:cool:
Clandonia Prime
09-10-2006, 21:24
Clandonia, can I take this deployment as a sign of no more cruise missiles headed at Naasha?

Woohoo, long live the little guy!

Yes your off the cards now! lol
Ackistan
09-10-2006, 21:36
Clandonia, can I take this deployment as a sign of no more cruise missiles headed at Naasha?

Woohoo, long live the little guy!

I just posted an attack on his fleet near you in our IC thread. Results unknown.
Naasha
09-10-2006, 21:40
Launch some lifeboats, I could do with some Clandonian hostage material drifting onto my shores.
Naasha
09-10-2006, 22:10
Clandonia, do you mind if Naasha reaches the wrecked seamen first? Cravan and I already have a hostage rescue situation about to kick-off and I'm sure you could persuade him to bring your guys home too.
Clandonia Prime
09-10-2006, 22:14
Clandonia, do you mind if Naasha reaches the wrecked seamen first? Cravan and I already have a hostage rescue situation about to kick-off and I'm sure you could persuade him to bring your guys home too.

Yes but there are some surviving ships and support is on the way, any that you do pick up are welcome to just don't pick up hundreads. I would say 12-15, be prepared though as some radical things will occur if you do take them.
Naasha
09-10-2006, 22:18
Yeah, I'm just going to despatch a chopper to search the seas for some, they'll go to the same detention centre as Cravan's pilot is headed, check the Surdun thread out for more details. (Although I'd rather a special forces raid than a full-scale invasion or something).
Ackistan
09-10-2006, 22:24
OOC: So ya'll know, there is another wave of aircraft headed towards this fleet, which will arrive about an hour and a half after the first wave. These aircraft aren't stealthy though.
Clandonia Prime
09-10-2006, 22:28
Yeah, I'm just going to despatch a chopper to search the seas for some, they'll go to the same detention centre as Cravan's pilot is headed, check the Surdun thread out for more details. (Although I'd rather a special forces raid than a full-scale invasion or something).

It would be SF or full scale chemical weapon bombardment until your country is dead, the military wont care for five men. This is the Armed Republic of Clandonia you know lol!
Ackistan
09-10-2006, 22:28
Clandonia Prime,

Are you targeting every satellite of mine that you are aware of or just military ones? I have a few weather satellites, a spaced based telescope, and a couple satellites over the north and south poles monitoring global warming...

PS. The second wave of attacks I mentioned in the IC thread are going to be headed towards Clandonia Prime and the fleet off Surdun's coast.
Naasha
09-10-2006, 22:28
Keep them off my coast or you'll be joined by my overzealous interceptor pilots, they've got a grudge against these cowardly Clandonians who'd rather send a missile to do a bomber's job.
Clandonia Prime
09-10-2006, 22:29
Clandonia Prime,

Are you targeting every satellite of mine that you are aware of or just military ones? I have a few weather satellites, a spaced based telescope, and a couple satellites over the north and south poles monitoring global warming...

Every single one, they arnt picky!
Ackistan
09-10-2006, 22:37
Keep them off my coast or you'll be joined by my overzealous interceptor pilots, they've got a grudge against these cowardly Clandonians who'd rather send a missile to do a bomber's job.


Feel free to post something along those lines in the IC thread. Perhaps your fighters can join me in finishing off the Clandonian fleet near your nation.
Clandonia Prime
09-10-2006, 22:45
Woopee finish them four off and the admirality will be pissed indeed.
Galmiria
09-10-2006, 22:47
may I fight in this war?
Naasha
09-10-2006, 22:52
Clandonia, once yours and Cravans personnel are at the detention centre I'll start a new thread so as not to clutter both of the other relevant ones.
Clandonia Prime
09-10-2006, 22:53
may I fight in this war?

Whoose side, what are your aims?
Galmiria
09-10-2006, 22:59
I'll join Clandonia Prime, because I want to join the GASN and you might be in it. And you seem good.
Clandonia Prime
09-10-2006, 23:01
I'll join Clandonia Prime, because I want to join the GASN and you might be in it. And you seem good.

Ok thats two for me :p

You should know where the thread is now, this is MT so be realistic and enjoy the show folks! So far this is going really well and is fun. :cool:
Ackistan
10-10-2006, 00:14
Ok thats two for me :p

You should know where the thread is now, this is MT so be realistic and enjoy the show folks! So far this is going really well and is fun. :cool:

No worries. The good guys will start joining the thread soon too :D

I would like Maldorians to be able to participate on a limited scale. Basically, I would like his contributions to be limited to $50 billion, which is the figure I believe we agreed to in the last thread.
Maldorians
10-10-2006, 00:23
heck yes. I would like to support you
Dartia
10-10-2006, 00:27
I want to join on Akistan's side.

Yes, I know my nation sucks :(
Ackistan
10-10-2006, 00:30
heck yes. I would like to support you


Maldorians,
Obviously, I'm cool with that, but lets wait to see what Clandonia Prime says.

Dartia,
Your nation qualifies to join this war. I don't want to nitpick (especially since you want to join my side), but my nation is "Ackistan" with a "C".
The Transylvania
10-10-2006, 02:48
CP, can I have a guy on that space station? I did fund $380 billion, or whatever amount of money I used to fund it, for that station alone. Can I have somebody there?

And I want to point this out, no WMDs can be used from you unless the Lord Marshal says you can.
Ackistan
10-10-2006, 03:10
I'll join Clandonia Prime, because I want to join the GASN and you might be in it. And you seem good.

Provided you agree to the rules, you are welcome to join. Before you post anything IC, I need to know where your nation is. If being "good" is important to you, I suggest investigating the conflict a little more cause I'm a angel. Just ask me. :D
Ackistan
10-10-2006, 03:10
OOC: Sorry, I posted on the main thread. May I still be involved?

I am fine with you joining provided Clandonia Prime agrees to let Trivalvia join also should they want to.
Ackistan
10-10-2006, 03:33
CP, can I have a guy on that space station? I did fund $380 billion for that station alone. Can I have somebody there?

And I want to point this out, no WMDs can be used from you unless the Lord Marshal says you can.

For the record, if a $380 billion Transylvania funded space station is coming into play in this thread, I think Maldorians or Chellis ought to be able to contribute a similar amount of resources to my side. :)
Mationbuds
10-10-2006, 03:35
OOC :
Tagged .
The Transylvania
10-10-2006, 03:44
For the record, if a $380 billion Transylvania funded space station is coming into play in this thread, I think Maldorians or Chellis ought to be able to contribute a similar amount of resources to my side. :)

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11747882&postcount=80 (The top of this post tells about CP’s space station)

I funded that station with that one trillion and the rest of money goes to be used for the clean up crews and rebuilding crews back in the Dominion Commonwealth thread. I think he only used a hundred billion for the station.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11748040&postcount=85 (At the bottom, the message to Lord Governor Douglas Lancer)

So, it is not in the limit set in this thread for $20 billion from older nation.

So both of those can only give you $20 billion. Sorry.
Guathic
10-10-2006, 03:57
I of course want to join.
Ackistan
10-10-2006, 04:19
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11747882&postcount=80 (The top of this post tells about CP’s space station)

I funded that station with that one trillion and the rest of money goes to be used for the clean up crews and rebuilding crews back in the Dominion Commonwealth thread. I think he only used a hundred billion for the station.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11748040&postcount=85 (At the bottom, the message to Lord Governor Douglas Lancer)

So, it is not in the limit set in this thread for $20 billion from older nation.

So both of those can only give you $20 billion. Sorry.


I'm cool with a $100 billion space station so long as someone on my side can match that contribution.
Ackistan
10-10-2006, 04:48
I of course want to join.

If you nix the grammar policing and dyslexia talk, I am cool with you joining the thread. I know you can make some great IC posts, but the OOC stuff in the last thread wasn't so great.

If Clandonia Prime disagrees, I yield to his decision.
Ackistan
10-10-2006, 04:53
I am fine with you joining provided Clandonia Prime agrees to let Trivalvia join also should they want to.

Uh, scratch that. You are welcome to join regardless of any decision about Trivalvia.

However, I do have a problem with Mationbuds joining. For fear of starting a flame fest, I do not wish to elaborate beyond that.
Trivalvia
10-10-2006, 05:08
I'll be staying out of this larger conflict, but since Great Nari is involved and since he is using that refuelling base in violation of our treaty (I consider Ackistan as a "friendly" nation), this will spark a splinter crisis or conflict between Nari and myself. I've put a seperate thread to keep it from interfering with this RP, but there will be some connective tissue between the two RPs.
Guathic
10-10-2006, 05:59
If you nix the grammar policing and dyslexia talk, I am cool with you joining the thread. I know you can make some great IC posts, but the OOC stuff in the last thread wasn't so great.

If Clandonia Prime disagrees, I yield to his decision.

For grammar, if I cannot understand someone, I simply state the part that makes no sense to me and request they explain.

For dyslexia, hey I didn't bring it up. I won't bring it up this time either.

Not much I can really do IC. I suppose I can repost my message from the first thread so that it stands.
The Transylvania
10-10-2006, 13:56
I'm cool with a $100 billion space station so long as someone on my side can match that contribution.

Don't know about that. You need to get five allies to give you $20 billion each because in this RP, big nations can only give out that amount.

I don't fit into that limit because I gave that money a long time ago.
Mationbuds
10-10-2006, 14:37
Uh, scratch that. You are welcome to join regardless of any decision about Trivalvia.

However, I do have a problem with Mationbuds joining. For fear of starting a flame fest, I do not wish to elaborate beyond that.

OOC :
Lols . Anyways I am just monitoring this , so keep your opinions to yourself .
Chronosia
10-10-2006, 14:44
Sorry to interrupt, but MB you might want to check your TGs
Mationbuds
10-10-2006, 14:49
Sorry to interrupt, but MB you might want to check your TGs

OOC :
Sure checking it ...
Clandonia Prime
10-10-2006, 16:07
Small nations only!

No big ones allowed.
The Transylvania
10-10-2006, 16:17
Small nations only!

No big ones allowed.

Not even one person on the space station?
Clandonia Prime
10-10-2006, 16:20
Not even one person on the space station?

If I let you on, it means he has to have someone help him its a hard choice. What does Ackistan think?
The Transylvania
10-10-2006, 16:26
If I let you on, it means he has to have someone help him its a hard choice. What does Ackistan think?

It is only one person, I keep it that way. I did fund the thing. I just want somebody to check it out.

I'm not helping you, I'm checking out the space station. And watch the operations of your forces.
Clandonia Prime
10-10-2006, 16:27
It is only one person, I keep it that way. I did fund the thing. I just want somebody to check it out.

I'm not helping you, I'm checking out the space station. And watch the operations of your forces.

Ok thats fine then, foriegn nation military observers are allowed.
The Transylvania
10-10-2006, 16:34
Ok thats fine then, foriegn nation military observers are allowed.

A post will come some time later. Thanks. And are you using WMDs, that means anything that deals with NBC weapons?
Clandonia Prime
10-10-2006, 16:46
A post will come some time later. Thanks. And are you using WMDs, that means anything that deals with NBC weapons?

I'm planning on using chemical weapons yes, well the Clandonian Corporation is so do they come under the restrictions of the Dominion?
Clandonia Prime
10-10-2006, 18:02
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/madnukedude/ClandoniaGoestoWar.jpg

Clandonia goes to War!
Ackistan
10-10-2006, 18:16
I am fine with Transylvania having someone in your space station.
Ackistan
10-10-2006, 18:42
I am about to go grab some lunch. When I return, I am going to try to catch up on my damage posts and announce some decisions by my congress.

I know I owe you damage for:
- civilian hackers defacing websites and doing DOS attacks
- missiles attacking my YAL-1's
- some cruise missiles attacking civilian targets in my nation (I would like to know what fired those and from where. Anything that close to my nation, I want to destroy ASAP).

Anything else?

I know you owe me damage for:
- 24 Raptors attacking your aircraft that were either parked in Scandinavia or en route there.
- Some of my B-2 bomber attacks

I also wish to clarify the following:
- My YAL-1's are flying around my nation. Pretty much anything remotely hostile flying in space within 400 miles of my nation gets targeted by them. Elsewhere, your stuff is safe from them.
- When this conflict started, my 1rst Carrier Strike Group was in the north sea (near my nation). My 2nd Carrier Strike Group was in the Mediterranean. The 1rst is not far from Scandinavia. The 2nd is en route to your nation, wherever it may be.

I also wish for you to clarify the following:
- I would like to know where those two fleets of yours are. I am assuming they just left Clandonia Prime after picking up troops and such.
- Sadly, I still don't know where your nation is. All I know is that it is an island somewhere.

Lastly, I'm afraid I have a problem with your last post. In my first IC post, I stated my initial airstrike would be followed by another air strike 1.5 hours later. In your subsequent posts, you basically indicated that my initial attack caught you somewhat off guard, and that one hour after my first attacks, you were struggling to get aircraft in the air (you indicated that you had 40 in the air after 1 hour) and that your radar was not functioning properly. It doesn't seem plausible that 30 minutes later both your radar has been fixed & you have 200 fighters ready to intercept me.
Chellis
10-10-2006, 18:42
OOC: I think that all I've sent you probably comes around 100b anyways, ackistan.
Clandonia Prime
10-10-2006, 19:02
I need a map of your nation, I'm in the Golden Triangle region, by the coast theres a link on my NS Wiki. I wish to have a large Falklands scale naval battle between my fleet and your carrier force.

The first fleet is very near Scandanvia now, the other has just set off to intecept your 2nd carrier group.
The Transylvania
10-10-2006, 19:59
I'm planning on using chemical weapons yes, well the Clandonian Corporation is so do they come under the restrictions of the Dominion?

I’m going to say yes. The reason for that is it will be seen as attack from your nation. If it is not seen by me, you will be safe. For those out there who want get him into trouble, report the attack on the news.
Clandonia Prime
10-10-2006, 20:03
Ok see the Dominion thread as I need to ask for advance permisions now incase it goes wrong.
The Transylvania
10-10-2006, 20:08
Well, you got your answer from the big man himself.
Clandonia Prime
10-10-2006, 20:10
Well, you got your answer from the big man himself.

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, if it goes wrong then I will proberly leave the alliance then when the glorious revolution occurs.
The Transylvania
10-10-2006, 20:16
And have the Dominion on your back for your WMDs use. They are only used as last strike options.

A hint, CP, tell the Count about the civilians being killed. He will be pissed.
Naasha
10-10-2006, 20:21
Space-kinetic weaponry? On me? Ouch!

Bearing in mind that the capital is now locked down, citizens are inside concrete bunkers at about 20 metres below the surface, how much damage are they going to do?

And uhhh... what are they?
Clandonia Prime
10-10-2006, 20:26
Well they are just like human made asteroids, so basically think lots of tarts coming down on you able to split buildings down the middle because of the speed them are going. There are ten darts in a missile.
Naasha
10-10-2006, 20:28
Fun fun, good thing we're locked down or the casualties could be in the tens of thousands.
Naasha
10-10-2006, 20:59
Can you go easy on the satellite weapons after this attack? It's a little harsh to obliterate a small nation with technology we couldn't possibly defend against.

That said, evacuations of the cities are beggining soon, so that will reduce their effectiveness.
Clandonia Prime
10-10-2006, 21:01
Two more strikes thats all, these things are costing me too much. Plus I don't want to kill all your civillians I'm not a madman I just want to put as much destruction on your nation so you will give in. If you don't then we use cheaper hydrogen cyanide warheads. :D
The Transylvania
10-10-2006, 21:02
He has been cleared to use what every he wants. Sorry.
Clandonia Prime
10-10-2006, 21:07
He has been cleared to use what every he wants. Sorry.

That makes me sound so evil mwhahhaahha.
Naasha
10-10-2006, 21:09
Goody. Well, while the crazy dictatorship will never give in, you may be on the brink of causing a major regime-change.
Clandonia Prime
10-10-2006, 21:13
Good you can be part of the Clandonian empire!
The Transylvania
10-10-2006, 21:22
Good you can be part of the Clandonian empire!

And being part of the Dominion Commonwealth. More playthings! *Evil smile*
Clandonia Prime
10-10-2006, 21:45
Naasha you are so going down for the way you treated my officer bitch hes going to be soooo pissed at you! :p
Naasha
10-10-2006, 21:52
They are in fact planning on cutting out his tongue.
The Transylvania
10-10-2006, 22:01
Naasha, can I send in a team of special ops soldiers to save those captured men and women? That is after I get word of it.

The team would be Death and his Grim Reapers, a unit of the Shadow Foxes.
Clandonia Prime
10-10-2006, 22:02
Naasha, can I send in a team of special ops soldiers to save those captured men and women? That is after I get word of it.

The team would be Death and his Grim Reapers, a unit of the Shadow Foxes.

Me and cravan are going to do that seeing as its our men and woman there. We are going to follow along that for a while.
The Transylvania
10-10-2006, 22:09
Come on, you know you want the best of the best of the best on your side. :)

And the way the POWs are being treated is a no-no in the Dominion. Well, not to the Count. They are people that would hate that see a Commonwealth state’s men as POWs.
Naasha
10-10-2006, 22:27
Transylvania, not at the moment, but this war is going to spark off a series of revolts and demonstrations in Naasha and Surdun, I'm sure Dominion can slot some special forces in there to ensure that their favourite group takes power.
Naasha
10-10-2006, 22:32
Clandonia, gonna parachute strafe me like I did to Cravan? ;)
Clandonia Prime
10-10-2006, 22:35
Clandonia, gonna parachute strafe me like I did to Cravan? ;)

No I will just take you prisoner on the ground

'release the hounds!'
The Transylvania
10-10-2006, 22:39
Transylvania, not at the moment, but this war is going to spark off a series of revolts and demonstrations in Naasha and Surdun, I'm sure Dominion can slot some special forces in there to ensure that their favourite group takes power.

Sounds like my kind of fun. I'm game.
Ackistan
10-10-2006, 23:44
Howdy

In a little bit, I should have the time to crank out my damage posts. I have a couple questions about your attacks though... How many missiles are you firing at my YAL-1's, how many cruise missiles were fired at my cities, and where were those cruise missiles launched from?
Clandonia Prime
11-10-2006, 15:34
I launched cruise missiles from my bombers, each B-2 carrys four air launched short range missiles. So 20x four equal 80 cruise missiles with thermobarical warheads.
Clandonia Prime
11-10-2006, 17:26
Also I want to begin landings against your nation soon, so we can have a ground battle instead of just bombing each other. So what about I destroy your navy and land forces? :cool:

Also how many ABL's do you have?
Ackistan
11-10-2006, 18:00
To add an element of realism, I decided my nation would use Belgium's(at least Brussels) real life weather for my nation.

Day 1 - Clear day. Partly cloudy night.
Day 2 - Partly cloudy day. Light rain at night.
Day 3 - Showers day and night
Day 4 - Sunny & clear
Day 5 - Showers in the morning & clear the rest of the day
Day 6 - Scattered showers
Ackistan
11-10-2006, 18:01
I launched cruise missiles from my bombers, each B-2 carrys four air launched short range missiles. So 20x four equal 80 cruise missiles with thermobarical warheads.

Cool. I took damage from your B-2 attacks on my airports and civilian targets.

What did you decide you were sending against my second wave of attack aircraft?
Clandonia Prime
11-10-2006, 18:02
Weather?
Ackistan
11-10-2006, 18:04
Weather?

Ya

You said your nation was -22c ever since the nucklear attacks on your nation, so I figured I would tell you my weather too. I just used yahoo's weather forecast.
Ackistan
11-10-2006, 18:05
Btw... I am trying to find information on the Internet about your titanium "Hand of God" kinetic weapons. Basically, I wanted to see what sort of damage they did and what countermeasures I could use if any. I couldn't find anything that really matched them, and was wondering if you had a link or something I could read?
Clandonia Prime
11-10-2006, 18:06
Cool. I took damage from your B-2 attacks on my airports and civilian targets.

What did you decide you were sending against my second wave of attack aircraft?

Oh them yes, a mixture of F-22's and reserve SU-30's I have about 200 of the F-22's and about 400 of the SU-30's. So I will proberly send around 100 aircraft up as I've shot down Naashas B-52's.
Clandonia Prime
11-10-2006, 18:08
Btw... I am trying to find information on the Internet about your titanium "Hand of God" kinetic weapons. Basically, I wanted to see what sort of damage they did and what countermeasures I could use if any. I couldn't find anything that really matched them, and was wondering if you had a link or something I could read?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetic_bombardment
Imperial isa
11-10-2006, 18:13
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetic_bombardment

i know iam not part of this but thanks for the link you post for Ackistan
now if same one ask me how my mac guns works i just post it
Clandonia Prime
11-10-2006, 18:17
Oh and Ackistan why is Chellis involved, if he is I might as well tactically nuke you now and go 'I won eleventy111!!!!one'
Ackistan
11-10-2006, 18:36
Oh and Ackistan why is Chellis involved, if he is I might as well tactically nuke you now and go 'I won eleventy111!!!!one'

I am not sure exactly what his plans are, but I expect his involvement will be limited per the established rules.
Clandonia Prime
11-10-2006, 18:43
I'm stick waiting for damage on the attacks I did, also need a map of the combat theatre and also I want to engage your fleet soon.
Ackistan
11-10-2006, 18:44
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetic_bombardment

I am not really sure I agree with bringing that weapon into our war.

That link basically describes a concept popularized by a science fiction writer, and speculates something like it may exist. Everything I am using either exists in real life or closely resembles something that really exists.

Even if that weapon comes into play, its effects are similar to a small nuclear weapon. If my nation started getting hit by something like that, we would just nuke your nation along with your friends.
Clandonia Prime
11-10-2006, 18:46
Notice how it says ground penertrating nuke, thats not a big surface mushroom cloud fellow. This is like a bunker buster sort, so basically it will just be like meteor strikes.
Guathic
12-10-2006, 00:29
Kinetic weaponry is really nothing more than bullets in space. A single metal projoectile can knock out a building or a ship if it falls properly. Because of it's incredible penetrating ability, it is also a bunker buster.

The comparison to nukes given in that wikipedia article is misleading. It means it is similar in use to a ground-penetrating, bunker-buster, mini-nuke. If Clandonia has the position of an underground bunker, they can destroy as much as a 30 story building staight down.

But keep in mind, it really can only take out one single target at a time. It's incredible ability to pierce through everything on it's path straight down cannot be directly translated to explosive force. It's just a giant, hypersonic bullet.
Chellis
12-10-2006, 02:21
Gauthic, you can't tell Clandonia what damage his space station took, that is considered godmodding. Say the expected effects if you will, but don't say what happened, happened for sure.

Ackistan, if the backup missiles I told you about were used in response to ortillery, I doubt my nation would really get mad about it. Also, waiting to hear a response to my shipment.
The Transylvania
12-10-2006, 02:34
Gauthic, you can't tell Clandonia what damage his space station took, that is considered godmodding. Say the expected effects if you will, but don't say what happened, happened for sure.

I’ll back you up on that. You telling the space station damage is a godmode.

Plus, I think you just signed the death warrants of two nations for that attack. If the station is blow up, a Dominionite will be murdered. One Dominionite dead, millions will be killed. Ha!
Guathic
12-10-2006, 02:46
I am sorry if my typing made it seem as a definite.

What I typed were expected effects, not definites.
Hundreds of copper needles that are superheated and travelling at hypersonic speeds into the station is an definites. It is expected that they travel right through the station.
Suggestions on how to type expected effects diffrently from definite effects would be appreciated. It might allow me to even type more freely about full expected effects. Ranges of expectations (the diffrence between more and less probable effects) would be appreciated.
Clandonia Prime
12-10-2006, 15:47
That indeed is god moddy, once you don't even have a space programe I doubt you have the funds seeing as your GDP is only just over my defence budget. The second reason, you have proberly just killed several high ranking foreign powers officer aka Trans people, I now have complete justification to launch a full nuclear retilation from orbital, ground, air and sea instlalations. I'm giving you a chance to redo any attempt of attack on me or your nation will be under several feet of hot guey glass.
The Transylvania
12-10-2006, 16:08
you have proberly just killed several high ranking foreign powers officer aka Trans people

Only one high ranking person (Thor) is on the station. The rest are the crew of my shuttle.
Clandonia Prime
12-10-2006, 16:09
Only one high ranking person (Thor) is on the station. The rest are the crew of my shuttle.

Either way, restate that post or full nuclear retaliation entails.

trans you got msn?
The Transylvania
12-10-2006, 16:12
Trans you got msn?

Nope, tele-gram me if you need anything.
Mationbuds
12-10-2006, 16:45
I am sorry if my typing made it seem as a definite.

What I typed were expected effects, not definites.
Hundreds of copper needles that are superheated and travelling at hypersonic speeds into the station is an definites. It is expected that they travel right through the station.
Suggestions on how to type expected effects diffrently from definite effects would be appreciated. It might allow me to even type more freely about full expected effects. Ranges of expectations (the diffrence between more and less probable effects) would be appreciated.

And dont forget that I also helped to jump-start his space program . Seeing my efforts being destroyed will prompt an retaliation strike on all Guathic stations using Titanium Missiles , which are far more effective than your copper needles ...
Clandonia Prime
12-10-2006, 17:43
I'm going to ignore his attack for now as its unrealistic and god moddy.
Mationbuds
12-10-2006, 17:53
I'm going to ignore his attack for now as its unrealistic and god moddy.

Actually it is half possible . Its similar to the Titanium Missiles I have on my stations but I disagree the part where he says he fired millions (?) .
Ackistan
12-10-2006, 18:04
That indeed is god moddy, once you don't even have a space programe I doubt you have the funds seeing as your GDP is only just over my defence budget. The second reason, you have proberly just killed several high ranking foreign powers officer aka Trans people, I now have complete justification to launch a full nuclear retilation from orbital, ground, air and sea instlalations. I'm giving you a chance to redo any attempt of attack on me or your nation will be under several feet of hot guey glass.


You aren't nuking anyone. You largely ignored the nuclear attack on your nation. People that don't take damage from nuclear attacks themselves don't get to nuke other nations. It is not reasonable for you to expect other nations to role-play something you are unwilling to role-play yourself.

Also, as long as you claim to be a modern tech nation, I won't be accepting attacks from your space ships with their dozens of titanium telephone pole weapons.

Also, you have obviously received military aid far beyond what was agreed to in this thread. It almost seems as if you are flaunting the fact you are cheating. Since you were nuked, you have acquired things like space stations, space marines, space ships, satellites, naval warships, air force fighters, and ridiculous amounts of nuclear weapons. If you want to maintain any pretense that you are following the rules you posted, you need to tone it down in a big way.

Scratch that. I am declaring this war over. I can think of about a dozen reasons I shouldn't role-play with you, Transylvania, and Mationbuds; but I can't think of any reasons I should continue. I will continue role-play the damage and losses I have suffered. You are free to do as you want. Please don't start any more threads about me.

I recommend you ignore Gauthic's attack and he ignore any counterattacks.

I apologize to my allies. Sorry if you are disappointed.
Mationbuds
12-10-2006, 18:13
You aren't nuking anyone. You largely ignored the nuclear attack on your nation. People that don't take damage from nuclear attacks themselves don't get to nuke other nations. It is not reasonable for you to expect other nations to role-play something you are unwilling to role-play yourself.

Also, as long as you claim to be a modern tech nation, I won't be accepting attacks from your space ships with their dozens of titanium telephone pole weapons.

Also, you have obviously received military aid far beyond what was agreed to in this thread. It almost seems as if you are flaunting the fact you are cheating. Since you were nuked, you have acquired things like space stations, space marines, space ships, satellites, naval warships, air force fighters, and ridiculous amounts of nuclear weapons. If you want to maintain any pretense that you are following the rules you posted, you need to tone it down in a big way.

Scratch that. I am declaring this war over. I can think of about a dozen reasons I shouldn't role-play with you, Transylvania, and Mationbuds; but I can't think of any reasons I should continue. I will continue role-play the damage and losses I have suffered. You are free to do as you want. Please don't start any more threads about me.

I recommend you ignore Gauthic's attack and he ignore any counterattacks.

I apologize to my allies. Sorry if you are disappointed.

Then I'd say you are a sore looser .

If people want to give more aid to others , its up to them . You have absolutely no say in how much we can or cannot give .

And if you read up more , you'll see many MT era books that HAVE such weapons . Titanium Missiles are not hard to make . Tell me why they are not possible . Give me a reason .

And the US also has chemical lasers today that can down enemy satellites .

So dont be a sore looser , we can also likewise ignore you .
Axis Nova
12-10-2006, 18:18
Then I'd say you are a sore looser .

If people want to give more aid to others , its up to them . You have absolutely no say in how much we can or cannot give .

And if you read up more , you'll see many MT era books that HAVE such weapons . Titanium Missiles are not hard to make . Tell me why they are not possible . Give me a reason .

And the US also has chemical lasers today that can down enemy satellites .

So dont be a sore looser , we can also likewise ignore you .

The US has nothing of the sort.
Mationbuds
12-10-2006, 18:32
The US has nothing of the sort.

Hmm , or maybe their developing it . But anyway , it can be done .
ElectronX
12-10-2006, 18:45
The US doesn't have anything like that in MT, Mationbuds. They don't have titanium missiles, they don't have a lot of things. Namely perfect SAM batteries or any of the sort of things you usually use.
Mationbuds
12-10-2006, 18:56
The US doesn't have anything like that in MT, Mationbuds. They don't have titanium missiles, they don't have a lot of things. Namely perfect SAM batteries or any of the sort of things you usually use.

Ahh , thanks then .

But nevertheless its simple to make .

Tinatium Rockets are basically titanium rods with tips that can pierce through armor and fitted with rocket thrusters to give it the speed .
Ackistan
12-10-2006, 19:00
Then I'd say you are a sore looser .

If people want to give more aid to others , its up to them . You have absolutely no say in how much we can or cannot give .

And if you read up more , you'll see many MT era books that HAVE such weapons . Titanium Missiles are not hard to make . Tell me why they are not possible . Give me a reason .

And the US also has chemical lasers today that can down enemy satellites .

So dont be a sore looser , we can also likewise ignore you .

If Clandonia Prime wanted his friends to be able to send him $4 trillion in aid, he shouldn't have created the thread with rules limiting aid to $20 billion. Clandonia Prime is essentially trying to cheat. He wants his friends to be able to provide him with whatever they want while keeping my much larger friends from contributing much of anything.

I am not saying it is impossible for space ships to fly around earth armed with dozens of telephone pole projectiles. In the future, that stuff might exist. In the modern world, which this thread is supposed to be modeled after, such things only exist in science fiction novels.
Naasha
12-10-2006, 19:07
Clandonia, I'm happy for you to continue roleplaying with me, however I ask for no more space/dubiously high tech weaponry or threats of nuclear attack. I'm a small nation, cruise missiles I can take, but anything more is just going to kill the spirit of the rp.
Mationbuds
12-10-2006, 19:10
If Clandonia Prime wanted his friends to be able to send him $4 trillion in aid, he shouldn't have created the thread with rules limiting aid to $20 billion. Clandonia Prime is essentially trying to cheat. He wants his friends to be able to provide him with whatever they want while keeping my much larger friends from contributing much of anything.

I am not saying it is impossible for space ships to fly around earth armed with dozens of telephone pole projectiles. In the future, that stuff might exist. In the modern world, which this thread is supposed to be modeled after, such things only exist in science fiction novels.

OOC :

Yes , but have you seen us giving him any monetary aid in this thread ? No . We havent given him a wee bit of cash in this thread .

And if you think about it , it can be achieved . RPing is not all about RL tech , if not , where's the fun in it .
Naasha
12-10-2006, 19:14
RPing is not all about RL tech

I strongly disagree with this statement, the prefix MT means exactly that, Modern Times.

Isn't there a Post-Modern-Times genre, for near-future type roleplay.
Chellis
12-10-2006, 19:16
The aid that mationbuds has given is godmode, we've established this already.

The aid from other countries, well, it breaks the pre-approved limits set in this thread. If we really wanted to play this way, I could have beefed Ackistan up many times more than clandonia prime. But we were letting them have the conflict, I thought. Some people feel differently.

Clandonia Prime, what justifies nuclear weapon use in your mind, doesn't for most nations. Just a warning, few countries will agree that an attack on a space station warrants a nuclear retaliation.

Another thing, your military should be helping your nation rebuild, and should be keeping order. After a nuclear attack, people will be starving and homeless in lots of places. Furthermore, many people will take this as an oppertunity to loot, and do other criminal things.

Ackistan has made a good decision to not continue this RP. Its chock-full of wank.
Mationbuds
12-10-2006, 19:17
I strongly disagree with this statement, the prefix MT means exactly that, Modern Times.

Isn't there a Post-Modern-Times genre, for near-future type roleplay.

Yes there is , but sometimes it tends to be merged . You cant expect to stay within RL boundaries . If then so you should also refute all the guns and weaponary that MT RPers invent their selves , simply because it is not in RL .
The Transylvania
12-10-2006, 20:13
The aid from other countries, well, it breaks the pre-approved limits set in this thread.

My aid came way before those set rules. I have not gave any more money.

Another thing, your military should be helping your nation rebuild, and should be keeping order. After a nuclear attack, people will be starving and homeless in lots of places. Furthermore, many people will take this as an oppertunity to loot, and do other criminal things.

I tried to tell him that in the last thread.
Clandonia Prime
12-10-2006, 20:35
Clandonia, I'm happy for you to continue roleplaying with me, however I ask for no more space/dubiously high tech weaponry or threats of nuclear attack. I'm a small nation, cruise missiles I can take, but anything more is just going to kill the spirit of the rp.

Indeed, and so the invasion fleet turns to Naasha!

I'm sorry this didn't work out again.....
Naasha
12-10-2006, 21:20
*Gulps*

I've bombed your ships before Clandonia, I'll do it again!

*Glances at enemies list*

Right after I lose my navy to Cravan.

Ahhhh....
The Transylvania
12-10-2006, 21:21
Naasha, tell me the time I can deploy my shadow ops boys.
Clandonia Prime
12-10-2006, 21:21
*Gulps*

I've bombed your ships before Clandonia, I'll do it again!

*Glances at enemies list*

Right after I lose my navy to Cravan.

Ahhhh....

Highly unlikely, I want to sink your navy in a Falklands style battle. My nuclear subs sink your ancient rust buckets killing 500 men, then my headlines will 'GOTCHA' in the Sun.
Naasha
12-10-2006, 21:26
They aren't rust buckets, just a little outdated ;) .

Oh, and Naasha has the ultimate answer to nuclear subs: little diesel ones.

Able to run quieter and closer inshore, although not so able to deploy special forces, obliterate cities and God knows whatever else you do with your subs.
Clandonia Prime
12-10-2006, 21:29
Oh I still have some of them, but my forces will still be a while from the theatre. You should proberly make your own OOC thread now as I will be mounting an invasion on a large scale.
Naasha
12-10-2006, 21:31
Lovely...

Gonna get annexed to Clandonia Prime.

Actually a full-scale invasion would be a good thing for the Imperialists, because nothing kicks off patriotism like enemy forces on your soil.
Guathic
12-10-2006, 23:16
2 pages ago, did you all just tell me I have no space program?

I have launch platforms, and this thread implies at least control one satellite belonging to someone.

Also, I only used HEAT warheads. If they can shred through a tank and kill the entire crew inside, than what's preventing them from doing the same in space? Unless of course your suggesting you can launch up armor better than a tank's into space.

As for ignoring my post for being too god-moddy? Other than the grammatical problem with describing expected results as definite results, there is nothing in "GOD MODE" (the actual term) about it. I apologized, and asked for a few pointers.

Those pointers I asked for turned out to be trying to tell me I had no space program. I am sorry, I don't remember hiring anyone here as my nation's writer and editer. I was pretty sure I asked for a couple writing tips, nothing more.

I agree with Ackistan, I am ignoring any counter-attack on my nation until you accept the loss of the space station and the shuttles that were on the last orbital pass.

I would also suggest to Ackistan that they ignore all rod attacks, starting with the first one, until fair play returns. And I suggest everyone ignore the idea that a chunk of metal at hyper-sonic speeds has nuclear capabilities.
Clandonia Prime
12-10-2006, 23:28
2 pages ago, did you all just tell me I have no space program?

I have launch platforms, and this thread implies at least control one satellite belonging to someone.

Also, I only used HEAT warheads. If they can shred through a tank and kill the entire crew inside, than what's preventing them from doing the same in space? Unless of course your suggesting you can launch up armor better than a tank's into space.

As for ignoring my post for being too god-moddy? Other than the grammatical problem with describing expected results as definite results, there is nothing in "GOD MODE" (the actual term) about it. I apologized, and asked for a few pointers.

Those pointers I asked for turned out to be trying to tell me I had no space program. I am sorry, I don't remember hiring anyone here as my nation's writer and editer. I was pretty sure I asked for a couple writing tips, nothing more.

I agree with Ackistan, I am ignoring any counter-attack on my nation until you accept the loss of the space station and the shuttles that were on the last orbital pass.

I would also suggest to Ackistan that they ignore all rod attacks, starting with the first one, until fair play returns. And I suggest everyone ignore the idea that a chunk of metal at hyper-sonic speeds has nuclear capabilities.

1. You have a GDP of less than my nations law and order budget, theres no way you can afford multi-billion dollar weapon platforms.

2. I have my doubts on how HEAT rounds would work in space what with it begin a vacuum, gravity and all? Now yes RoG's sound dodgy, the fact they were thought of in the 1980's and have very little technology involved means they are well within the means.

3. If you expect me to say, and my allies that I have lost a multi billion dollar space station with several billion dollars worth of men, equipment, killed a high ranking foreign officer and not anhilate your nation! LOL if this RP was still going I would of unleashed my full nuclear comliment on you.

4. This is closed once again because of Guathic well done!
The Transylvania
12-10-2006, 23:35
If you expect me to say, and my allies that I have lost a multi billion dollar space station with several billion dollars worth of men, equipment, killed a high ranking foreign officer and not anhilate your nation! LOL if this RP was still going I would of unleashed my full nuclear comliment on you.

What did I say early? One Dominionite dead, millions will be killed. The Way of the Wolf, kill one and millions will be destroyed.

And that station could really be classified as my own station, if you take a long look at it.
Guathic
12-10-2006, 23:48
1. You have a GDP of less than my nations law and order budget, theres no way you can afford multi-billion dollar weapon platforms.

2. I have my doubts on how HEAT rounds would work in space what with it begin a vacuum, gravity and all? Now yes RoG's sound dodgy, the fact they were thought of in the 1980's and have very little technology involved means they are well within the means.

3. If you expect me to say, and my allies that I have lost a multi billion dollar space station with several billion dollars worth of men, equipment, killed a high ranking foreign officer and not anhilate your nation! LOL if this RP was still going I would of unleashed my full nuclear comliment on you.

4. This is closed once again because of Guathic well done!


1. That statement shows you know nothing of space programs. That weapons platform is about as complicated as laptop computer and an RC plane holding a cluster of HEAT warheads.

2. So you don't know how explosives work?

3. You said you didn't lose it. You say I don't have a space program.

4. Actually, Ackistan quit because you were cheating. You are cheating now. And if you stop cheating, this opens back up.