NationStates Jolt Archive

Recognizing that Griffencrest is a threat to the free world

Recognizing that conventional warfare seems to have no effect on the company's policies or profit whatsoever, perhaps unrealistically so

Recognizing: That the best way to hurt a company is in it's profit margins

Pointing out: That Blackhelm Confederacy has taken no actions to regulate or punish Griffencrest

The Holy Confederacy of New Aeson hereby urges all nations to embargo Griffencrest and the parent nation of Blackhelm Confederacy, until and unless such actions be taken that the international community be satisfied Griffencrest is no longer a threat.

List of Embargoing Nations:
The Holy Confederacy of New Aeson
The People's Freedom
People's Republic of Hurtful Thoughts
Magic Sorcery
Trivalvia
Jaredcohenia
Maraque
Northford
Rotten Bacon

naaa, ill keep trading and supplying them.

naaa, ill keep trading and supplying them.

OOC: Thank you, for that thought out and well written post. If you aren't going to make a valid argument, please leave.

Al'right. Griffencrest is a wonderful organization for those nations that wish to express themselves militarily. If you will to fight then do so, and don't complain about doing nothing.

Al'right. Griffencrest is a wonderful organization for those nations that wish to express themselves militarily. If you will to fight then do so, and don't complain about doing nothing.

Official Communique:

The willingness, and, in fact, eagerness of Claudius Griffencrest to be affiliated with such clearly deranged persons merely demonstrates his own instability and need to be shut down.

ooc:hey you called me deranged?

ooc:hey you called me deranged?

OOC: IC, yes.

OOC: Bump for all sane nations

From the Desk of The President

We have already taken measures against GriffinCrest. In addition to the ongoing war against GC, The Peoples Freedom has frozen all assets, urged other nations to embargo, and issued a warrent for the CEO, on Warcrimes.

Signed,
Matt Booch

Recognizing this embargo

And

Recognizing the limited effect of such a small loss of profits to such a large corporation.

Pointing out that wherever Griffencrest's ships sail, death is not far behind

People's Republic of Hurtful Thoughts shall do its utmost to prevent the spread of Griffencrest supplies over all air and sea routes.

Suspected boats shall be stopped, searched, and if the slightest hint of Griffencrest paraphanalia is present, the ship, its entire cargo and crew included, shall be sunk without mercy.

Effective immediately.

OOC: aren't there some Privateers doing this?

For this, we are mobolizing our own force of Privateers to supplement 25 Sniper class destroyers and 25 Tango class submarines
========
Some port in PROHT
Davy Jones's Concrete Foot Locker
A tall man in a faded brown trenchcoat walked up the pier and knocked on the concrete hull of his racing yacht; recently outfitted with torpedoes and cannons, in the rear bay, which usually would house a dingy, instead housed a floatplane modified UL-2000 "Minion"; Davy Jones stepped out, slightly groggy, but awake nonetheless.

The man was almost immediately recognized as L.T. Dunbar, one of Jones's main financial backers. He handed Jones a piece of paper.

"Mobolization orders, effective immediately, how long until this boat is ready to sail?"

Jones, still tired: "Right now, except I don't have a full crew and I'm too tired to sail with just a skelton crew, plus I'll need to find men to man the weapons"

Dunbar smailed: "Already done" then he waved his right hand in a circle over his head twice.

Within moments Jones could see what appeared to be a full rifle platoon jumping out of various non-military vehicles and storming down the pier, and into the boat.

"Shall we set sail now?" Asked Dunbar...

The Empire of Magic Sorcery is willing to aid in the boycotting of this corperation.

Statement: For Immediate Release

The Griffincrest Corporation, in its unprovoked invasion of The World Soviet Party, in its support of aggressors such as Beiraq and Blainesville, and in its use of nuclear and chemical weapons against both military and civilian targets, is a danger to international peace and security.

Therefore, as of 0740 hours this morning, the Trivalvian Legislature has voted to declare the Griffincrest Corporation a terrorist organization. As a consequence, any nation with Griffincrest bases of operation will be subject to economic sanctions ranging from cessation of trade to full blockades as cases dictate and resources permit. Trivalvian businesses and financial institutions are forbidden to trade or open accounts with Griffincrest-affiliated nations or organizations. Any funds existing in Trivalvian financial institutions that belong to the Griffincrest Corporation will be siezed.

Should Griffincrest aggression continue, the Trivalvian government reserves the right to intervene militarily.

The Errikan Government, while recognizing the right of any nation to engage in economic sanctions with any entity for any reason, urges the most radical voices, namely Hurtful Thoughts, to reconsider their current course of action. It is one that will surely lead to extensive conflict with otherwise neutral entities, which seems like something that you would wish to aviod.

Official Jaredcohenian Notice

You are just now starting to embargo the Griffencrest Organization, New Aeson?

We laugh! We made an official notice to all corporations in the Corporate Alliance when it was formed that we have denied all trade to them!

~Grandgeneral Ivan Cohen

Official Jaredcohenian Notice

You are just now starting to embargo the Griffencrest Organization, New Aeson?

We laugh! We made an official notice to all corporations in the Corporate Alliance when it was formed that we have denied all trade to them!

~Grandgeneral Ivan Cohen

Zukariaa, a strong ally of both you and me, is intimately involved with them. Are you taking such measures with them as well?

Zukariaa, a strong ally of both you and me, is intimately involved with them. Are you taking such measures with them as well?

If we did, we would lose our control of Rosbaningrad!

You guys in Errikland are quite silly.

~Grandgeneral Ivan Cohen

If we did, we would lose our control of Rosbaningrad!

You guys in Errikland are quite silly.

~Grandgeneral Ivan Cohen

Your negative response brings us relief.

Grandgeneral Ivan Cohen? We have not established contact with you previously. What is your relation to Aaron (Arius) Cohen?

Wait... we weren't embargoing them at some point?

Your negative response brings us relief.

Grandgeneral Ivan Cohen? We have not established contact with you previously. What is your relation to Aaron (Arius) Cohen?

I am his brother. Why do you wish to know?

(OOC: Errik, I unromanized their names. It's Strenivus.)

I am his brother. Why do you wish to know?

(OOC: Errik, I unromanized their names. It's Strenivus.)

OOC: Oh, I only ever heard Arius became Aaron. Disregard my comment on the subject

Wait... we weren't embargoing them at some point?

It's as old as warplan charlie...

OOC: Add me to the list, thanks.

"We require further information before we come to a decision on this matter, perhaps you could tell us of this... Griffincrest Corporation?" This, from an encrypted email sent directly to the nearest Embargo signatory office.

((OOC: In other words, I need evidence before I decide what to do.))

OOC solution:
Jolt forums Search: Griffencrest

You'll find plenty of history in those threads.

Official Jaredcohenian Notice

You are just now starting to embargo the Griffencrest Organization, New Aeson?

We laugh! We made an official notice to all corporations in the Corporate Alliance when it was formed that we have denied all trade to them!

~Grandgeneral Ivan Cohen

Hmm, does that include me? Helping Griffencrest out, but refuse to join the CA?
On a side note, we will continue to trade with Griffencrest.

Hmm, does that include me? Helping Griffencrest out, but refuse to join the CA?
On a side note, we will continue to trade with Griffencrest.

As long as you are not in the Corporate Alliance, we see no reason to embargo you.

Carry on, and enjoy the benefits of trading with us!

(OOC: I don't think there are any benefits, sorry D:<)

Greetings from the Republic of Ackistan!

The people of Ackistan respect the right of other nations to choose whom they do business with. If you do not wish to purchase or sell goods to a particular nation or entity that is fine.

We also recognize that during times of war it is important to keep supplies from reaching your enemy. If you wish to enact a naval blockade around your enemy's waters, that is also fine by us.

However, if Ackistan suddenly finds our merchant vessels being hassled or attacked in international waters by your privateers or navy, we will consider that to be an act of war against Ackistan.

Best wishes,
Angelina Whittaker
Secretary of State

Greetings from the Republic of Ackistan!

The people of Ackistan respect the right of other nations to choose whom they do business with. If you do not wish to purchase or sell goods to a particular nation or entity that is fine.

We also recognize that during times of war it is important to keep supplies from reaching your enemy. If you wish to enact a naval blockade around your enemy's waters, that is also fine by us.

However, if Ackistan suddenly finds our merchant vessels being hassled or attacked in international waters by your privateers or navy, we will consider that to be an act of war against Ackistan.

Best wishes,
Angelina Whittaker
Secretary of State

All boats and planes that have stopped off at nations known to be friendly with the Griffencrest Corporation shall be searched.

Some countries search for drugs or alchohol, we'll search for Grifencrest paraphanalia.

Those found resisting shall be seen as a threat to the search party's safety and shall be nuetralized.

Any unwarranted show of force shall be taken as a pre-emptive preparation for a "Griffencrest run" and will be fired upon without hesitation.

It would be best in everybody's interest to steer clear of Griffencrest Petroluem products...

Griffencrest tankers and offshore/deep sea oil platforms will also be priority targets for fairly obvious reasons...

And to make sure I get BC's attention:
We found OIL

Statement: For Immediate Release

The Griffincrest Corporation, in its unprovoked invasion of The World Soviet Party, in its support of aggressors such as Beiraq and Blainesville, and in its use of nuclear and chemical weapons against both military and civilian targets, is a danger to international peace and security.

Therefore, as of 0740 hours this morning, the Trivalvian Legislature has voted to declare the Griffincrest Corporation a terrorist organization. As a consequence, any nation with Griffincrest bases of operation will be subject to economic sanctions ranging from cessation of trade to full blockades as cases dictate and resources permit. Trivalvian businesses and financial institutions are forbidden to trade or open accounts with Griffincrest-affiliated nations or organizations. Any funds existing in Trivalvian financial institutions that belong to the Griffincrest Corporation will be siezed.

Should Griffincrest aggression continue, the Trivalvian government reserves the right to intervene militarily.

I beat you to it already...

Bumpy

Attention all those who support the Corprate Alliance (of TerroristS) [CA(TS)]

20 Minutes later:
Minister of Foriegn affairs Hubert Pinkerton and Minister of Defense Major General Major announce that they will make an important speech regarding the current GASN/CA/TWSP/NA/A-CA-A conflict. It is considered odd that Pinkerton and Major are getting along so well, for itr was only mere months ago that they recall seeing the pair bickering like schoolchildren.

28 Minutes Later, Notoorough, PROHT
Transmitted live on HNN and PBS.
Hubert Pinkerton could be seen approaching the podium, Major was not visable.
"I'm sorry, but the Minister of Defense could not attend this. Since he has more pressing matters to deal with as I merely present the formalities.

It gives us great pleasure, to announce that, as a nation, we shall not be attacking the Blackhelm Confederacy or their allies...

[He gives a pause, booing can be heard in the background, Hubert then silences this simply by raising his hand]

It also gives me great pleasure to announce...
[open upraised hand turns to a fist]
That we shall conduct war against the terrorist faction know to all of us as the Corprate Alliance!"

[Fist smashes podium, crowd cheers]
time elapsed since last post, 28 minutes 30 seconds

"Many may be wondering, either in their cozy homes or cowering like caged rats in some unlisted bunker on their private island; 'How can you declare war on the Corprate Alliance, and the Griffencrest Corp, along with his associates, but not on the nation of Blackhelm or their allies?' The answer is simple really, the Griffencrest Corporation [accents this with a lewd body gesture] is just that, a corporation, a company of free individuals who tok it upon themselves to rule not one nation, but an empire without every becoming a legitamate government, Griffencrest Corporation has been frequently been cited for crimes against humanity, and don't get me started with his 'associates'."

[farts, followed by the loudspeakers attempting to recreate the noise of a nuclear explosion, crowd bursts into laughter and outrage]
Time elapsed since last post 29 Minutes

"But seriosly, they 'take care of their own', with as much infighting within their own ranks, it becomes understandable that the occasional bullet hits a soldier every so often, rather than some 'useless civillian' as they often call them. They even went to us for their weapons and places to put their delapidated planes. Well, you can bet the farm, they will be mighty shocked the next morning."

[Aid walks up to podium with letter, Hubert reads it silently]

"Well, our attempts to arrest Griffencrest peacefully have failed, and now I call upon all our allies, that may know of his location, or the location of any of his close friends and reletives, to please step forward, and bring these monsters to justice"

[Goes over the physical appearance, history (real and ficticious in order to make them look bad), and charcteristics of the Griffencrest family, this passes considerable time]
Time elapsed 34 minutes

"As I speak, Two of the largest airbases in the control of the Griffencrest Corporation are in flames, and all surviving terrorists are being captured as we speak, we are also launching massive ground and air assaults in The World Soviet Party and New Ausha against rear echelon troops of the terrorist fronts, and now, I leave you, please enjoy this recent footage of the demiolition of the Griffencrest airbases"

[Cresendo of 1812 overture starts as Pinkerton leaves, projector screen drops down, and projector shows film of the demolition at the New Roanoke Island, Griffencrest Airbase which happened not more than 8 minutes ago]

29 minutes later:
New Roanoke Island, Griffencrest airbase, PROHT
As the final minute and climax of the song repeated for the second time, a soft pinging sound could be heard, followed by the intense overpressure of pre-placed explosives. Placed when the airbase was custom made for Griffencrest planes, a film crew with a camera, machinegun, detonator control, and loudspeaker opened fire and started filming, the hardwired louspeakers would be the last to be blown up, as a sort of cruel way of torturing the mercenaries with a song celebrating the defeat of a power mad warlord in a war of attrition.

The macine gun burped to life as mercenaries tried to flee the complex as it alternated between explodin, burning, and exploding again, more help arrive in the form of the newly formed Marine Raiders riding in FMX-6B gunships and Mi-6 Halo helicopters, the high pitched whine of the mostly gas turbine powered HT-101E8 and HT-106C2 tanks could be heard not far away, and opening fire on any surviving armor and crushing all remaining pockets of resistance.

Within a minute the fighting had stopped, the film crew started packing up, and the tanks and Marine raiders where given the last few seconds of film showing them round up prisioners and checking the wreckage.

The crew was then picked up by an awaiting Mi-6 Halo and flown to the Navy base a mere 30 miles away in order to send the video on live T2 internet connection loop to Notoorough PROHT for use by Pinkeerton.

33 minutes 05 seconds
Griffencrest controled Husk Air Base, RFF
(2 minutes 38 seconds into 3rd loop)
Do you really need full details?
The above by the way, is also being used as evidence accusing me of using terrorist tactics against a nation, when in fact, it is the other way around.

Oh, and Griffencrest Sr. is dead, Leafthansi gaurds shot him 41 times at an airport recently. They are asking for some sort of reward.

All boats and planes that have stopped off at nations known to be friendly with the Griffencrest Corporation shall be searched.

Some countries search for drugs or alchohol, we'll search for Grifencrest paraphanalia.

Those found resisting shall be seen as a threat to the search party's safety and shall be nuetralized.

Any unwarranted show of force shall be taken as a pre-emptive preparation for a "Griffencrest run" and will be fired upon without hesitation.

It would be best in everybody's interest to steer clear of Griffencrest Petroluem products...

Griffencrest tankers and offshore/deep sea oil platforms will also be priority targets for fairly obvious reasons...

And to make sure I get BC's attention:
We found OIL

Greetings from the Republic of Ackistan!

The government of Ackistan wishes to point out that Blainesville, a member of the Corporate Alliance, is a land locked nation. Blainesville's neighbors are bound by international law to allow Blainesville access to their ports and to international air space.

While Ackistan frowns upon many of Blainesville's past activities, we cannot change the fact Blainesville is our neighbor. While Blainesville uses ports belonging to their southern neighbors to access the Mediterranean, Ackistani ports are among those used to grant Blainesville access to the Atlantic Ocean.

We wish to know if it is your intention to punish Blainesville’s neighbors for Blainesville’s misdeeds by harassing our shipping?

Signed,
Angelina Whittaker
Ackistani Secretary of State

PS. We also wish to encourage the various nations, whom have taken an interest in the Corporate Alliance, to refrain from launching further nuclear strikes against Blainesville. Having a nuke explode within a few hundred miles of your border is quite disconcerting.

OOC: Blainesville claims real life Switzerland while Ackistan claims real life Belgium and Netherlands.

The Empire of Mationbuds recognizes this sanction and hereby places all sanctions and embargoes on Griffincrest and his associates . However we stress that we do not take any sides at the moment .

Your's Sincerely ,
James Wanton , Minister for Trade

Dephire is rather outraged at the fact of being ejected from the GASN and thus questions the utter thought of even assisting in a ploy against the CA. We feel rather distraught of the loss of status amongst the fine ranks of the GASN. So we shall neither assist the GASN nor the Corporate Alliance until further improvement of BOTH are brought to attention. Thank you.

-Lord Governor, Jonathan Vega

OOC:
Dephire is 'venting rage' of being kicked/overlooked during the recent GASN overhaul. Let him vent, as it is sometimes the best/only way to clear the air.

IC:

-snip-
We wish to know if it is your intention to punish Blainesville’s neighbors for Blainesville’s misdeeds by harassing our shipping?

Signed,
Angelina Whittaker
Ackistani Secretary of State

-Reply-

No, we do not intend to harass shipping, but to make it, and the world a safer and more livable place, and if spot checks and searches must be carried out in order to stop an incorporated, militant, and well organized terrorist faction, then so be it.

Also, if Blainseville is landlocked, what does it have to worry about? If they do not fire upon the searching party, and do not carry Griffencrest terrorists or cargo, then they should have nothing to hide, right?

We shall try and keep the searches of your vessels as gentlemanly as possable, but I will point out, that many of these men have seen the atrocities comminted by men rallied under the name of Griffencrest, and may not be as forgiving of 'collaborators' as us desk jockies are.

Hubert Pinkerton
OOC
(RL Americans may see the validity of this as they are checked whenever they go to the airport)

The goal is to force Griffencrest to use exotic means of transportation for his supplies, thus raising his prices to the point they are no longer competitive with the world market. Cutting his sales and profit margin substantially, also, he will either have to heavily defend or lose his offshore oil rigs (his "home front" if you will), causing a substantial loss in profit margin.

Now who wants to see me firebomb an oil well?

A search would consist of boarding, interogation of the captian by a few simple standard questions, cross checking his answers with the appearance of the boat and the logbooks. And a simple visual inspection of the crew as stow-aways are searched for.

Ig\f you wrere expeting a boat search like the one that is depicted in "Apocolypse now", then you are sadly mistaken.

[OOC: I support this, and want in. PROHT ,Would you let me produce a newspaper article, saying that we fully support blah blah, but divert significant Northfordian (circa 50 destroyers+100 frigates) resources from the GASN escort force, and pop them under PROHT control? It wouldn't require any RP-ing, but would allow me to ramble about how our countries are becoming *ever close* militarily, and how we pledge our full (IC) support to you becoming full members, blah blah. Oh, and give me the name of an admiral that I can transfer the taskforce too.]

OOC:
Heh, I needed that breather. Thanks HT.

Hurtful Thoughts, where and when will these searches take place?

Also, I forgot who said it, what "law" requires nations bordering landlocked nations to allow the landlocked nations access to their soveriegn territory?

bump

im embaroeing them.

Hurtful Thoughts, where and when will these searches take place?

Also, I forgot who said it, what "law" requires nations bordering landlocked nations to allow the landlocked nations access to their soveriegn territory?

OOC:
The United Nations' International Law Commission determined that land-locked nations must be granted access to international waters when writing their laws of the sea. Here is a link:

http://untreaty.un.org/ilc/summaries/8_1.htm

IC message not particularly directed towards Errikland:
Greetings from the Republic of Ackistan!

In addition to reminding you of international laws, Ackistan also wishes to remind you that Blainesville was recently devestated by nuclear attacks. While we are bound by international law to allow Blainesville access to the high seas, very little of their cargo leaves our ports. Simply put, Blainesville is a nuclear wastelend. They are not producing anything in sufficient quantitiy that you should concern yourself over it. Furthermore, on the rare occassions when a Blainesville ship leaves our ports, they sail under their own flag not ours. Do whatever you wish to Blainesville's ships provided you don't do it in Ackistan's waters as we don't want to cleanup your mess. Blainesville is a poor excuse for a neighbor, and has been the source of great annoyance to us. If you sink every ship they have, it is no skin off our nose.

Furthermore, I wish to express Ackistan's anger over the shoddy treatment demonstrated towards us by the GASN alliance. While fighting Blainesville, your nations violated Ackistani air space time and time again without so much as bothering to ask for permission. Furthermore, while attacking Blainesville, you detonated a nuclear weapon within a few hundred miles of our border with little regard for our safety. Once that war was over, a GASN nation (Mationbuds) provided over a trillion dollars worth of nuclear weapons to the nation that so recklessly nuked our neighbor. Now you want to search every ship leaving our ports to prevent a nuclear wasteland incapable of producing anything from exporting their products? Absolutely not. Ackistan is fed up with your alliance, and will not peacefully endure further provocations.

Attempt to search our ships at your own peril.

While it is not Trivalvia's place to defend the GASN officially, it should be noted that Clandonia Prime's actions that have so angered Ackistan occured in a time when GASN was at its weakest organizationally speaking. Now that the GASN has regrouped, Clandonia Prime is no longer part of that organization. Given the amount of devastation done to Clandonia Prime in that war, we feel that the GASN has done the sensible action of removing the nation from their number without pressing for further penalties.

It is our hope that Ackistan will examine the GASN for what it is today, rather than by the actions of its former members.

It should be noted that there no longer exists within The Community any organization allied with the Griffincrest Corporation. (The owner of Aspen Investment was found dead, and Aspen's investments were frozen on charges of fraud). The Community retains its official stance of neutrality.

OOC:
The United Nations' International Law Commission determined that land-locked nations must be granted access to international waters when writing their laws of the sea. Here is a link:

http://untreaty.un.org/ilc/summaries/8_1.htm


OOC: Perhaps now would not be the best time for me to go into my IC disdain and my OOC disgust for the idea of "international law" and any authority of the UN.

um . . . carry on.

My other question, directed at the interception efforts of Hurtful Thoughts, stands.

[OOC: I support this, and want in. PROHT ,Would you let me produce a newspaper article, saying that we fully support blah blah, but divert significant Northfordian (circa 50 destroyers+100 frigates) resources from the GASN escort force, and pop them under PROHT control? It wouldn't require any RP-ing, but would allow me to ramble about how our countries are becoming *ever close* militarily, and how we pledge our full (IC) support to you becoming full members, blah blah. Oh, and give me the name of an admiral that I can transfer the taskforce too.]

K. Make it IC though.
L.T. Dunbar is the Liasion between the privateers and the regular navies, so I guess he's the "admirral" of all my pirate raiding operations...

As for the other fleet, those destroyers and cruisers are under the command of:
Lt Major Pyle Skivinski.
PROHT has lacked quality military leadership since the great reorganization.
Hence the low rank. Also, the PROHT/GASN fleet wasn't ever expected to see real combat.

Hurtful Thoughts, where and when will these searches take place?

Whenever, whereever, mostl likely in international waters, which is roughly 12 miles from the nearest shore or more. But varies appreciably.

Example/crazy rant:
Alidor claimed 200 miles... we came within 5 with what was then considered a full flag flying battle fleet before they threatened to open fire, still managed to land 20 marines on their shores... impenetrable quarantined beaches my ass... managed to get them 200 miles inland and bring most of them back in one piece... those who survived that were given high profile positions in military leadership

Speaking of consequences...

Will you be cleaning up the oil spills you cause once you start blowing up Corporate Alliance oil tankers?

wheres BH been latly?

Speaking of consequences...

Will you be cleaning up the oil spills you cause once you start blowing up Corporate Alliance oil tankers?

Did the Undershi clean up their nuclear mess in Khornate?

Even though I see no reason for my forces to give the Griffencrest forces any of the convienences they do not share with their enemies themselves, yes, I shall contain and clean up oil spills by traping the oil and then setting it on fire around said tanker with the lifeboats within said oil slick.

Northford

Today, was, quite unsuprisingly for Northford, a quiet day. The sky was blue(ish), the business was merrily going along, and old people were playing Golf. Quite the Sunday.

Despite this however, there was one old person who was not playing golf. Sitting in his office chair slowly fingering the hairs on his beard, Prime Minister Brookes was having a typical sunday. For sunday was, in Northfordian Politics, still a day of work, and he sure as hell knew it.

For him, today was the day that he would be hosting his cabnet and members from the upper house in what was traditionally called the "Meeting of the Commons", an informal discussion, where various important politicians could discuss their views with the cabnet as a whole, over tea and crumpets.

In todays meeting, things were little different, for the tea was being drunk, and the crumpets were being eaten. Only difference was the topic. Usually, these meetings were confined to trivial matters with the aim of encouraging relationships with other politicians, however, today, was different.

The Topic was the approach Northford should take to the CA (Corporate Alliance). For some considerable time now, the Commonwealth had been weighing up it's options.

Should it go for all out war? Or should it play the mediator? Should it attempt to destabilise the Corporate Alliance, or should it attempt to just contain it, and its effects?

Thus far, the Commonwealth had adhered to the latter. Deciding that trade was ultimately more important in 'stupid' wars, the Northfordian Government agreeed to take a largely backseat role in the unofficial GASN actions with the CA, instead prefering to divert its foreign policy to protecting trade, and opening friendly relations with other countries, such as Praetonia, Questers, Cruxium, Isselemere and South East Asia, either establishing embassies abroad of creating bilateral trade agreements.

Despite that however, today the Cabnet of Northford was faced with an unusual situation. For the Peoples Republic of Hurtful thoughts and New Aeson were attempting to embargo certain CA countries, Now this presented an unusual problem to the Cabnet and Government of Northford. New Aeson, a Governing Council member, had long been supported by Northford, since it was long recognised that its pragmatic approach to the alliance was most likely to be sucsessful long term. The PROHT however, was an entirely different story. A communist country, whose ideological standpoint was juxtaposed to Northfords, had enjoyed a healthy working relationship with Northford. This was achieved through good diplomacy, and an understanding of the pragmatic situation of the world.

This was exemplified in the Khornate Tribes (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11806466#post11806466) Crisis, where Northfordian Peacekeeping Forces were stationed to help keep order.

Inside the meeting, tensions were flaring.

"I'm sorry, I simply refused to allow the Commonwealth to get involved with a full scale war over this." Stated the Prime Minister, Alan Brookes, for the umpteenth time. " I simply don't support the notion of such active involvement".

"Well then Sir, I propose we follow the embargo and divert some ships to the Effort. Best of both worlds. As a vote, all those for it......"

---

Announcement.

In line with GASN allies, the Commonwealth of Northford announced today that it was following in the embargo of the Blackhelm Confederacy, and is sending significant naval assets over there to aid inteception of certain dangerous shipping.

Speaking after leaving a confidential meeting between politicians, Alan Brookes, PMm said the move was 'Significant' in stabilising the region and providing provisions for our allies.

According to Naval Sources, around 60* ships have been sent to the region, headed by a General Dent-class Trimaran large cruiser. It will be under the Command of Rear Admiral Flanders, an experianced leader of conventional Northfordian shipping escorts. While there has been some concern that ships are being drawn from the escort force for this endeavour, it has been stressed that they will not effect the operational abilities of the force.

While Admiral Flanders will be under overall control of the flotilla, operational control has been given to the L.T. Dunbar, a Hurtian liason officer.

Ships will be leaving in approximately 7 days, after preparations are made.


--

*PROHT will be RP'ing for me.
*The following ships will be sent[Most are sourced from Sarz or Prae, ask if more info is needed]:
*1 Hospital Ship
*5 fuel and munitions transport
*1 AOR
*7 Hatchett Ultra Large Container Ships (13,000 TEU)
*40 Pickering Class Corvettes
*60 Minister Class FF,N
*25 Knight Class Destroyers
*40 Praefele Class Destroyers
*1 General Dent Class Heavy Cruiser
*3 Court Class CVN
*7 Walmsley CVN.

The Courts carry 50 Aircraft, the Walmsley, 20, Standard Load out is:

Court:

*12 SuF/A-6N2 Wraith
*6 SuF-8 Phoenix Advanced Naval/Land Air Dominance/Interceptor Fighter
*6 Nightmare Twin-Engine Multi-Role Fighter
*3 SuFB-8 Strike Phoenix Naval Fighter-Bomber/Medium Bomber/Torpedo Bomber
*3 SuA-1 Strikecat Close Air Support Aircraft
*5 SuC-2 Charriot Medium Tactical Airlifter
*3 SuKC-2 Ranger Medium Tactical Tanker
*2 SuE-1 Scanner, AWACS/Jammer
*10 Generic ASW Helicopter

Walmsley:

*10 SuF-5B Lion
*5 Generic ASW Helicopter
*10 UAV’s

And yes, I know it's not 60. It's called lying ICly. If you suddenly assume that I've got as many ships as I've say I've got, I'll get pissed off.

URLS:

Space Union- Planes (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=486999)
Praetonia-Destroyers+Frigates (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=469451)
Sarzonia-Corvettes and logistics (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=457777)
Isselmere-Carriers (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=484448&highlight=isselmere)

OOC: I've only read the first 3 posts, so if this post seems out of place, you know why.

IC: His Majesty Emperor Victor I: Emperor of the Imperial Republic of Icovir

Icovir recognizes that Griffencrest corporation and the Blackhelm Confederacy is a threat to the world.

Icovir relizes that we cannot sell oil or fossil fuels without the threat of Griffencrest or the Blackhelm Confederacy attacking us.

Therefore, Icovir wil try her best to stay out of the CA-TWSP war, although TWSP is an ally of Icovir. But, Icovir will EMBARGO the Blackhelm Confederacy, all members of the CA, and Griffencrest.

It seems that Icovir may become sucked into this war no matter how long we procrastinate it...

The Trivalvian government, after reviewing international law, is granting Blainesville access to ports for purpose of trade and humanitarian assistance. With regards to the Hurtian intention of searching and scuttling of vessels carrying Griffincrest merchandise, we respectfully request the People's Republic of Hurtful Thoughts avoid this action with regards to Blainesville mechant ships, but would support a limited campaign of confiscation of Griffincrest funds and materials from Blainesville ships. We request that materials being transported to Blainesville be left alone, as this country is suffering the economic and medical aftereffects of a nuclear strike, and is also suffering a foreign invasion (OOC - the invasion may or may not be over at this point).

The Trivalvian government will be stationing neutral observers on Blainesville merchant ships to insure that searches of their vessels are conducted fairly.

It is hoped that we can carry out this embargo of Griffincrest without damaging or endangering other nations.

The Trivalvian government, after reviewing international law, is granting Blainesville access to ports for purpose of trade and humanitarian assistance. With regards to the Hurtian intention of searching and scuttling of vessels carrying Griffincrest merchandise, we respectfully request the People's Republic of Hurtful Thoughts avoid this action with regards to Blainesville mechant ships, but would support a limited campaign of confiscation of Griffincrest funds and materials from Blainesville ships. We request that materials being transported to Blainesville be left alone, as this country is suffering the economic and medical aftereffects of a nuclear strike, and is also suffering a foreign invasion (OOC - the invasion may or may not be over at this point).

The Trivalvian government will be stationing neutral observers on Blainesville merchant ships to insure that searches of their vessels are conducted fairly.

It is hoped that we can carry out this embargo of Griffincrest without damaging or endangering other nations.

The Holy Confederacy of New Aeson would like to point out that Blainesville is a Griffencrest Associate State, and therefore should probably be counted as part of the Griffencrest Corporation itself.

Official Clandonian Response
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/madnukedude/clandoniansmallflag.png

The Clandonian governement strongly condems the Trivalvian action and will deploy forces to destroy all Blainsvillian shipping in event that sea acess is granted, we urge you to do it for the benefit of your nation. Are you mad? The Griffinfest Corporation runs that country, do you want your country infiltrated by oil stealing genocidal mercenarys? Have you not seen the devestation caused by the GC in your Eastern neighbours, the killings and genocide in the Khornate Tribes?

Diplomatic Relations Minister

Air Commander Sir. Lewis Marshall

OOC - @ Aeson: a good point, but the nation itself is hardly a threat anymore... it does our cause no good if by starving Griffincrest's profit margins we also starve civilian survivors.

I'm just saying that when PROHT searches Blainesville ships, all outgoing materials and funds destined for Griffincrest be confiscated, and the Blainesville government compensated for lost trade. Incoming stuff should probably be left alone for now. If we play our cards right, we might be able to convince the government of Blainesville to be neutral or even reject Griffincrest assistance - especially if we can provide a better offer.

Just my thoughts. I'm preparing for a possible war with Griffincrest forces inside TWSP so I'm not looking for any fights elsewhere.

@ Clandonia Prime - the heck? I'm not looking for a fight, but maybe you are?

OOC: No fight, I just don't want Blainsville to have sea acess.

Is there a great demand for radioactive dirt, glass, and cadavers? That is pretty much what Blainesville has to export these days.

Dunno.

Of course, if Blainesville chooses not to trade by sea, our concerns become a little moot.

Speaking of Clandonia Prime...

Is it worse to invade a nation for gain or to commit genocide by nuking a nation? We are curious why the nations so eager to embargo the Corporate Alliance have turned a blind eye towards Clandonia Prime's reckless use of nuclear weapons? Given their nuclear attack took place within a couple hundred miles of The World Soviet Party, Trivalvia, and my nation; I would think you would all be up in arms.

The Republic of Ackistan wishes to amend its current position on this embargo. We will offer our full cooperation provided the embargo is expanded to include Clandonia Prime.

Best wishes,
Angelina Whittaker
Secretary of State

Speaking of Clandonia Prime...

Is it worse to invade a nation for gain or to commit genocide by nuking a nation? We are curious why the nations so eager to embargo the Corporate Alliance have turned a blind eye towards Clandonia Prime's reckless use of nuclear weapons? Given their nuclear attack took place within a couple hundred miles of The World Soviet Party, Trivalvia, and my nation; I would think you would all be up in arms.

The Republic of Ackistan wishes to amend its current position on this embargo. We will offer our full cooperation provided the embargo is expanded to include Clandonia Prime.

Best wishes,
Angelina Whittaker
Secretary of State

Though we do not at this time feel that this embargo can be extended to Cladonia Prime, provided that Ackistan can present us with proof of Cladonian wrongdoing, we will support any embargo Ackistan begins against Cladonia Prime.

Clandonia has all the transcripts from what occured durring those frightning hours of the nuclear war towards us. Ackistan continues to anger our nation, the fact you support clearly the terrorirst orginisation of Griffinfest and the terrorist harbouring cells of countrys like Blainsville sickens us and the relatives of the 8 million killed in those nuclear attacks from the Blackhelm Confedarcy.

If any embargo begins against Clandonia mark our words, there will be blood spilt.

Clandonia has all the transcripts from what occured durring those frightning hours of the nuclear war towards us. Ackistan continues to anger our nation, the fact you support clearly the terrorirst orginisation of Griffinfest and the terrorist harbouring cells of countrys like Blainsville sickens us and the relatives of the 8 million killed in those nuclear attacks from the Blackhelm Confedarcy.

If any embargo begins against Clandonia mark our words, there will be blood spilt.

If you have the transcripts, please provide them. In addition, you would be well advised not to threaten the Holy Confederacy.

Sending Transcripts.zip
Sending 50%
Sending 100%
Transfer completed

The transcripts contained classified footage of the devestation after the chemical weapon attacks on the capital and the firebombing of Danskeran, a street full of dead people. The CBD in chaos, people injured and dieing on the floor as medics and troops rescue people from burning buildings. Then going to the briefings of the launch sites of Griffenfest bombers and Scud Missiles. The next of 20kt tactical bunker buster nuclear warheads being loaded onto B-2's and B-1B Lancer bombers. Then as the confirmed targets were destroyed, no large scale fallout, presicion launch pads and hostile airfields where chemical weapons attacks were orcastrated from. The next slide showing the roots of hostile enemy Confedarcy missiles hitting Clandonia, next any remaning bombers were orderd to destroy all Griffenfest military facilities in Blainsville.

The report ended with details of the Clandonian dead and wounded, over 8 million dead, estimated 12-16 wounded and high estimates in the 20 million that would die from radiation poisoning.

Sending Transcripts.zip
Sending 50%
Sending 100%
Transfer completed

The transcripts contained classified footage of the devestation after the chemical weapon attacks on the capital and the firebombing of Danskeran, a street full of dead people. The CBD in chaos, people injured and dieing on the floor as medics and troops rescue people from burning buildings. Then going to the briefings of the launch sites of Griffenfest bombers and Scud Missiles. The next of 20kt tactical bunker buster nuclear warheads being loaded onto B-2's and B-1B Lancer bombers. Then as the confirmed targets were destroyed, no large scale fallout, presicion launch pads and hostile airfields where chemical weapons attacks were orcastrated from. The next slide showing the roots of hostile enemy Confedarcy missiles hitting Clandonia, next any remaning bombers were orderd to destroy all Griffenfest military facilities in Blainsville.

The report ended with details of the Clandonian dead and wounded, over 8 million dead, estimated 12-16 wounded and high estimates in the 20 million that would die from radiation poisoning.

OOC: Could I also have a link to the thread?

OOC: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=500670

I'm communist?

When did this happpen?

My government tries to distance itself from the economy.

And has enforced no safegaurds for retiring peope and set no minimum wage requirements (the only regulation so far is child labor and debtor's prisions).

Yes, very communist of me...

I'm communist?

When did this happpen?

My government tries to distance itself from the economy.

And has enforced no safegaurds for retiring peope and set no minimum wage requirements (the only regulation so far is child labor and debtor's prisions).

Yes, very communist of me...

OOC: I think it's the name.

OOC: I think it's the name.

Well, now to get into "name calling"....

PROHT is not a democracy

PROHT has a select few controling afederal Government
Hence "Republic"

OHT is rather sraightforward

People, the republic is for the people, and serves them well by providing order, utilities, jobs, and security.

I smell another uprising...

And I started RPing on the forums when I was rehabilitating the nation from the last one(s).
-------------
Also, if anyone tries the line "UN law means that I'll be forced to fight [Ackland] because Blainesvill uses Ackland's ports".

My response: wouldn't Blainsville's boats be registered under Blainesville's name and not Ackland's? And therefore, not your problem. Also, the practice I am putting into effect would greatly discurage a boat captian from shipping griffencrest cargo under almost all conditions except when at gunpoint (or a massive payoff).

And why is your government involved so much as in Blainesvile's economy that you wish to declare war for infringment solely upon on shippments intended for Griffencrest.
And infringes on all other trade in no way whatsoever.

Your IC logic makes little sense. Making me wonder if there is some OOC reason behind this.

OOCly I don't want to be bothered by any baseless and needless battles.

ICly I don't care what you do, as there is sufficient declaration in there that should you do anything foolish you would quickly find yourself in a lossing war of economic sanctions.

The first 3 pages of the RP might be good but after that it would just stagnate.
-----------
And then the "routine traffic stop means you are harrassing my merchantmen"
Grow up, happens all the time, In america, nation borders check for fruits and vegitables, state borders check for alchohol, and almost all border points check fro gun and drug runners.

If every one of these checks counted as an "act of war" we'd all be long dead.
=========
In summary:

Lighten the @%# up or declare war already.

I don't think we need to go to such extremes...

If we could find a way to release Blainesville from its status as a Griffincrest associate state by diplomatic means, would you be willing to leave Blainesville's shipping - what little there is of it - alone? If this initiative works, Griffincrest will lose a base of operations, and all without you having to sink a ship (at least in this region). If the initiative fails, Trivalvia is not willing to pursue the matter further (i.e. I won't bother you again about this...)

I don't think we need to go to such extremes...

If we could find a way to release Blainesville from its status as a Griffincrest associate state by diplomatic means, would you be willing to leave Blainesville's shipping - what little there is of it - alone? If this initiative works, Griffincrest will lose a base of operations, and all without you having to sink a ship (at least in this region). If the initiative fails, Trivalvia is not willing to pursue the matter further (i.e. I won't bother you again about this...)

Again, that is my goal.
Which I bring about by forcing all alternitives to be far less pleasant.

But Ackland persists in his querries of the legitamacy of my actions while I counter by doing the same.

And since no fighting has broken out yet, this is diplomatic.

To do something by not actually doing anything, but I back my words with action and cause.

Scary, isn't it?

Hurtful Thoughts,

I already explained to you that Blainesville's ships fly under their own flag, and that I don't care what happens to them once they leave Ackistan's waters. I am glad you see the sense in that now.

It is all a mute point anyway. The vessels you have dedicated towards enforcing your embargo can't come anywhere near my nation without getting sunk. There are easily 1,000 warships within 500 miles of my coast fighting the TWSP war. I don't think your vessels will last long in that environment.

It is all a mute point anyway. The vessels you have dedicated towards enforcing your embargo can't come anywhere near my nation without getting sunk. There are easily 1,000 warships within 500 miles of my coast fighting the TWSP war. I don't think your vessels will last long in that environment.

I've a number of boats defending TWSP, yet they have not run across any of yours, and it should have at least seen your fleet when it is at a concentrastion of 1.5 ships per mile. Also, those boats have better things to do than babysit some boats.

Northford 'donated' over 1,000 frigates to aid in the searches.

Then there is the stipulation of how many Privateers I have under Ros's commision.

And I'm pretty sure I covered that part about checking in international waters.

So if you don't care, what was with the war threat TG? (which I deleted, after I replied that if you want a war you'll have to declare it yourself)

So if you really want a war, sure, I'll respond to it, but I stress OOCly that it wouldn't be a good RP, as it would appear forced.

[snip]
PROHT is not a democracy

PROHT has a select few controling afederal Government
Hence "Republic"

OHT is rather sraightforward

People, the republic is for the people, and serves them well by providing order, utilities, jobs, and security.

[snip]

And then the "routine traffic stop means you are harrassing my merchantmen"
Grow up, happens all the time, In america, nation borders check for fruits and vegitables, state borders check for alchohol, and almost all border points check fro gun and drug runners.

If every one of these checks counted as an "act of war" we'd all be long dead.[snip]

1. In the old Roman Republic, your definition worked (for the most part). However, Republic has evolved as a modern term. What you are describing is an oligarchy. Like democracy, that one was from Greek, democracy being rule by the people (straight democracy, however, had every citizen voting on everything, which no nation does now days), and oligarchy being rule by the few. If I just gave you a lecture that you've seen before but you were too lazy to change anything for, I apologize.

2. There is a great difference between checking all stuff that crosses your soveriegn borders, as in your example, and checking any stuff that goes about on international waters.

Let me restate this in case you missed it last time:

If any privateer attacks Errikan shipping and survives, which is highly unlikely, he will be hunted down and skinned alive.

I've a number of boats defending TWSP, yet they have not run across any of yours, and it should have at least seen your fleet when it is at a concentrastion of 1.5 ships per mile. Also, those boats have better things to do than babysit some boats.

Northford 'donated' over 1,000 frigates to aid in the searches.

Then there is the stipulation of how many Privateers I have under Ros's commision.

And I'm pretty sure I covered that part about checking in international waters.

So if you don't care, what was with the war threat TG? (which I deleted, after I replied that if you want a war you'll have to declare it yourself)

So if you really want a war, sure, I'll respond to it, but I stress OOCly that it wouldn't be a good RP, as it would appear forced.

OOC: I don't really want to war over this either, but I was willing to if the alternative was having my ships getting harassed. If you are content to just search Blainesville's ships after they leave my waters, then there really isn't much to argue about. You get to search Blainesville's ships, and mine are left alone.

Exactly.

As for Erricland's comment, which I did see:

Then the privateers better not get caught, but the distinction between armed merchant marines and privateers are few.

And his short lecture:
1 Yes.

2. Worked to solve the Cuban missile crisis, in that case the item being blockaded was nuclear missiles (by blockading everything), I should also note that a frigate did stop a gun runner on international waters bound for/from North Korea less than 2 years ago.

God bless INTERPOL...

That reminds me of one time INTERPOL arrested the crew of 3 B-17s under the pretense of gun running after an emergency landing in portugual/spain instead of France (1967, ish, Lisbin if I'm not mistaken...) To make matters worse, they had copies of Soviet documents of technicians bound for Cuba after a visit at Gander Airport in Canada.

And when they chased down a diamond thief through 15 countries...

You don't hear about this stuff much nowdays, but it happens...

Also, I'd like to point out that almost nobody is complaining of the embargoment and piracy against the Griffencrest corporation itself, just the potential collateral damage it may cause.

OOC: Make an OOC thread. Also, PROHT, I've not sent you 1000 ships, I've sent you a couple of hundred. I need an IC post from you at some point, too, accepting their help.

Guys! Don't let OOC banter ruin a thread. Why don't you make a few seperate threads, where you RP out intercepting of shipping, as well as a seperate OOC thread?

That should, hopefully, stop this one from being ruined by OOC banter.

Exactly.

As for Erricland's comment, which I did see:

Then the privateers better not get caught, but the distinction between armed merchant marines and privateers are few.

And his short lecture:
1 Yes.

2. Worked to solve the Cuban missile crisis, in that case the item being blockaded was nuclear missiles (by blockading everything), I should also note that a frigate did stop a gun runner on international waters bound for/from North Korea less than 2 years ago.

God bless INTERPOL...

That reminds me of one time INTERPOL arrested the crew of 3 B-17s under the pretense of gun running after an emergency landing in portugual/spain instead of France (1967, ish, Lisbin if I'm not mistaken...) To make matters worse, they had copies of Soviet documents of technicians bound for Cuba after a visit at Gander Airport in Canada.

And when they chased down a diamond thief through 15 countries...

You don't hear about this stuff much nowdays, but it happens...

Also, I'd like to point out that almost nobody is complaining of the embargoment and piracy against the Griffencrest corporation itself, just the potential collateral damage it may cause.

OOC: Er... shame there's no equivilant to Interpol on NS.

OOC:
Ackistan and Trivalvia: There a couple of RL precidents for countrys denying sea access to thier land locked neighbours, The best example i can think of off the top of my head is the case of Malawi and Mozambique. The whole spirit of the "law" is to allow just and free trade, not to force you to act against your own interests.

Now unless you are both members of the NS UN there is nothing binding you to such legislation bar any existing historic multi lateral agreements relating to access rights, which should have a get out clause if things are going a bit pear shaped.

As to stop and searchs, HT really should not be doign anything like that within the commonly reconised 200nm EEZ belonging to each nation although with a crowded bit of water like the north sea such limits would be defined by local multilateral agreements (assuming of course that the north sea/northern europe in this section of NS is the same size as the RL version which would be a bit silly due to the sheer sizes of populations involved).

Exactly.

As for Erricland's comment, which I did see:

Then the privateers better not get caught, but the distinction between armed merchant marines and privateers are few.

And his short lecture:
1 Yes.

2. Worked to solve the Cuban missile crisis, in that case the item being blockaded was nuclear missiles (by blockading everything), I should also note that a frigate did stop a gun runner on international waters bound for/from North Korea less than 2 years ago.

God bless INTERPOL...

That reminds me of one time INTERPOL arrested the crew of 3 B-17s under the pretense of gun running after an emergency landing in portugual/spain instead of France (1967, ish, Lisbin if I'm not mistaken...) To make matters worse, they had copies of Soviet documents of technicians bound for Cuba after a visit at Gander Airport in Canada.

And when they chased down a diamond thief through 15 countries...

You don't hear about this stuff much nowdays, but it happens...

Also, I'd like to point out that almost nobody is complaining of the embargoment and piracy against the Griffencrest corporation itself, just the potential collateral damage it may cause.

1. :)

2. A blockade is entirely different from stopping all sorts of ships (affiliated with all sorts of nations) all across international waters.
As for the other stuff, the nations were generally cooperative nations as in the case of the interpol thing, or I don't have enough info to make an assessment, as in the case of the diamond theif.

Embargoes are standard procedure for fighting an economic entity, and thus any objections would have to be leveled at your overall fight, not just the embargo. And I doubt anyone is going to b*tch at you for fighting Griffincrest.

1. :)

2. A blockade is entirely different from stopping all sorts of ships (affiliated with all sorts of nations) all across international waters.

Embargoes are standard procedure for fighting an economic entity, and thus any objections would have to be leveled at your overall fight, not just the embargo. And I doubt anyone is going to b*tch at you for fighting Griffincrest.

As noted before, I don't believe embargoes alone would work.

I'v got what? 50... maybe 150 patrols out there to cover the whole NS globe.

So the goal is to pick Griffencrest trade routes, camp them from international waters, evade pro-Griffencrest patrols (Undershi for example [though this is slightly incorrect]), stop what we can (and believe are supplying Griffencrest sponsored actions), and return fire when fired upon.

Minefields may be used later on to limit the number of safe trade routes.

And I'll take the first and last line and a half as a compliment.

So my blockade has holes, but it'll be like trying to squeeze through a fishnet, and Griffencrest shipping is comparable to a whale...

Well, recent actions WRT Blainesville just rendered our arguments moot. Given TWSP's recent overwhelming of Blainesville's military (and the OOC reason that Blainesville invaded TWSP, was invaded by TWSP and then vanished from these boards, leaving us wondering 'what the heck?'), both TWSP and Trivalvia have assumed joint governance of Blainesville. As such, it is now a protectorate of ours, and no longer affiliated with the Corporate alliance.

From my end of things, this resolves my concerns about your boarding actions as we'll be working to make sure Blainesville is "Griffincrest-free".

Wonders why I didn't see this post sooner....
Northford
Today, was, quite unsuprisingly for Northford, a quiet day. The sky was blue(ish), the business was merrily going along, and old people were playing Golf. Quite the Sunday.

Despite this however, there was one old person who was not playing golf. Sitting in his office chair slowly fingering the hairs on his beard, Prime Minister Brookes was having a typical sunday. For sunday was, in Northfordian Politics, still a day of work, and he sure as hell knew it.

Oh, wait, now I remember...

For him, today was the day that he would be hosting his cabnet and members from the upper house in what was traditionally called the "Meeting of the Commons", an informal discussion, where various important politicians could discuss their views with the cabnet as a whole, over tea and crumpets.
-snippy-
The Topic was the approach Northford should take to the CA (Corporate Alliance). For some considerable time now, the Commonwealth had been weighing up it's options.

-bigger snippy-
Announcement.

In line with GASN allies, the Commonwealth of Northford announced today that it was following in the embargo of the Blackhelm Confederacy, and is sending significant naval assets over there to aid inteception of certain dangerous shipping.

Speaking after leaving a confidential meeting between politicians, Alan Brookes, PMm said the move was 'Significant' in stabilising the region and providing provisions for our allies.

According to Naval Sources, around 60* ships have been sent to the region, under the control, headed by a General Dent-class Trimaran large cruiser. It will be under the Command of Rear Admiral Flanders, an experianced leader of Conventional Northfordian shipping. While there has been some concern that ships are being drawn from the escort force for this endeavour, it has been stressed that they will not effect the operational abilities of the force.

While Admiral Flanders will be under overall control of the flotilla, operational control has been given to the L.T. Dunbar, a Hurtian liason officer.

Ships will be leaving in approximately 7 days, after preparations are made.


--

*PROHT will be RP'ing for me.
*The following ships will be sent[Most are sourced from Sarz or Prae, ask if more info is needed]:
*1 Hospital Ship
*5 fuel and munitions transport
*1 AOR
*7 Hatchett Ultra Large Container Ships (13,000 TEU)
*40 Pickering Class Corvettes
*60 Minister Class FF,N
*25 Knight Class Destroyers
*40 Praefele Class Destroyers
*1 General Dent Class Heavy Cruiser
*3 Court Class CVN
*7 Walmsley CVN.

The Courts carry 50 Aircraft, the Walmsley, 20, Standard Load out is:

Court:
*12 SuF/A-6N2 Wraith
*6 SuF-8 Phoenix Advanced Naval/Land Air Dominance/Interceptor Fighter
*6 Nightmare Twin-Engine Multi-Role Fighter
*3 SuFB-8 Strike Phoenix Naval Fighter-Bomber/Medium Bomber/Torpedo Bomber
*3 SuA-1 Strikecat Close Air Support Aircraft
*5 SuC-2 Charriot Medium Tactical Airlifter
*3 SuKC-2 Ranger Medium Tactical Tanker
*2 SuE-1 Scanner, AWACS/Jammer
*10 Generic ASW Helicopter

Walmsley:
*10 SuF-5B Lion
*5 Generic ASW Helicopter
*10 UAV’s

And yes, I know it's not 60. It's called lying ICly. If you suddenly assume that I've got as many ships as I've say I've got, I'll get pissed off.

URLS:

Space Union- Planes (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=486999)
Praetonia-Destroyers+Frigates (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=469451)
Sarzonia-Corvettes and logistics (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=457777)
Isselmere-Carriers (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=484448&highlight=isselmere)

OOC
I guess conflicting claims between 60 and 1,000 ship'll confuse them, as this is not 1,000 ships...

IC:
Davy Jones's Concrete Foot Locker
At sea
L. T. Dunbar was awoken to the churning of a nearby fax, informing him that some Northfordian ships would be made available to him, the quantities were however, not listed, and instead requested he and his crew dock at a specific port to pick up a dead man drop.

(It's a bit late over here, shall continue on same post later)

*Titchy little bump for people*

Encoded Message

To: PROHT
Re: Embargo

North Tolemac is by your standards a minor nation. Nevertheless, we believe your embargo of the Corporate Alliance is admirable, and we wish to participate. Towards this effort, we are able to commit a small number of naval vessels.

2 Victoria Class Long-Range Patrol Submarines
1 Duke Class Anti-Aircraft Frigate
2 Oliver Hazard Perry Class Anti-Ship Warfare Frigates
1 Resolute Class Light Cruiser

Unless you have a better suggestion, our ships will be patrol near the Straight of Gibraltar. A great deal of traffic passes through that area, and it is close enough to our homeland to allow our air force to assist our ships if need be.

Good day.

- Henry Logan
Foreign Affairs

To: Henry Logan, North Tolemac Foriegn Affairs
From: Hubert Pinkerton, People's Republic Of Hurtful Thoughts Foriegn Affairs
Re: Embargo

What you may see as an embargo, myself and others see as a blockade or dragnet against Griffencrest Corporation Proliferation.

The Hurtian Navy is still comparitively small to most other countries, and I yet remember when this great nation had but one solitary aircraft carrier, and hardly and surface combatants, and had to rely almost entirely upon submarines and minefields for the defense of our coastline in the event of a war.

Your forces shall indeed be an asset in the fight against the Griffencrest Corporation and the terrorist faction in which they support so feverently.

Minister Hubert Pinkerton

The Corporate Alliance is a threat to free nations everywhere. Our navy will join our brothers in North Tolemac in enforcing this blockade. We will scour the Mediterranean for Corporate Alliance scum.

The Corporate Alliance is a threat to free nations everywhere. Our navy will join our brothers in North Tolemac in enforcing this blockade. We will scour the Mediterranean for Corporate Alliance scum.

Will you respect the neutrality of Errikan vessles and Errikan sailors on non-Errikan vessels?

Will you respect the neutrality of Errikan vessles and Errikan sailors on non-Errikan vessels?

Ships sailing under the colors of Corporate Alliance nations will be targeted wherever they are found. Ships belonging to other nations will be left alone unless they attempt to enter or leave Corporate Alliance waters.

Ships sailing under the colors of Corporate Alliance nations will be targeted wherever they are found. Ships belonging to other nations will be left alone unless they attempt to enter or leave Corporate Alliance waters.

Wherever they are found? I assume you exclude territorial waters of non-compliant nations?

Wherever they are found? I assume you exclude territorial waters of non-compliant nations?

If you care to find out, let a CA ship into your waters. Then let us know about it.

If you care to find out, let a CA ship into your waters. Then let us know about it.

If that was not a challenge, please inform us.

If it was, prepare to lose a lot of sailors and equipment.

Dangit!

And I just had that issued done and settled and now some bandwagoneers go and mess it up...

Does Errikland posses any territorial waters in the Mediterranean? If not, I see no reason for Errikland and Dartia to fight over this.

- Henry Logan
Foreign Affairs

Dangit!

And I just had that issued done and settled and now some bandwagoneers go and mess it up...

If you were referring to me, then know that I have been involved in this thread for quite some time.

Does Errikland posses any territorial waters in the Mediterranean? If not, I see no reason for Errikland and Dartia to fight over this.

- Henry Logan
Foreign Affairs


As of yet, we do not posess territory bordering the Mediterranean, and thus have no territorial waters in said region. However, we may gain control of some in the future, and would like for our options to be respected in said case.

Does Errikland posses any territorial waters in the Mediterranean? If not, I see no reason for Errikland and Dartia to fight over this.

- Henry Logan
Foreign Affairs

That is a fine point you made there.

No, I was mostly reffering to Dartia's OOC threat that you sail a Griffencrest boat in your home waters and let them know in order to find out what they intend to do.

As I myself clearly stated would not be condoned by Hurtian Privateers.