NationStates Jolt Archive

In accordance with the current WATA guidelines, all member nations have the right to give one speech on the issue in discussion. This will be no different. However, once all members of the Security Council have given a speech, then the voting will commence.

Today's topic is the Use of Nuclear Weapons by the WATA to combat terrorism. Shall the WATA allow these weapons to be used.

I open the floor for discussion.

Clandonia is bound by commonwealth rules on nuclear weaponry meaning we must ask the council of Lords first. However we belive the use of nuclear weaponry should be used in cases of a highly dangerous group of targets e.g. terrorists annual meeting or something or if there was an NBCR threat where the threat would need to be completly elimated in one clean sweep.

The Glorious Empire of Naasha will use any weapon it feels is necessary to defeat a terrorist force which poses a threat to the Empire.

As a member of the WATA Security Council, the United States of Nellisland feels that the use of Nuclear Weapons should be prohibited in all of our dealings. As a whole, if a member nation wishes to create these weapons then by all means, but they should not be sanctioned weapons by the WATA. The opponents that we will fight shroud themselves in populated civilian areas, and we can not massively kill inncoent civilians.

Nuclear explosions produce both immediate and delayed destructive effects. Blast, thermal radiation, and prompt ionizing radiation cause significant destruction within seconds or minutes of a nuclear detonation. The delayed effects, such as radioactive fallout and other environmental effects, inflict damage over an extended period ranging from hours to years. We can not be responsible for things like this to happen.

It is the contention of the USN to vote 'no' and make the use of Nuclear Weapons illegal. I urge all member nations, esspecially those on the Security Council to vote with me.

Thank you.

What about the use of small <50 kt warheads designed to vapourise biological and chemical warheads?

What about the use of small <50 kt warheads designed to vapourise biological and chemical warheads?

OOC: You only get one post. Sorry dude. Bring it up in a later session of voting.

The Empire of Mationbuds feels that if the threat is a major one , tactical nuclear warheads may be used . Though we would rather use Cruise Missiles to hit key terrorist installations .

Clandonia is bound by commonwealth rules on nuclear weaponry meaning we must ask the council of Lords first. However we belive the use of nuclear weaponry should be used in cases of a highly dangerous group of targets e.g. terrorists annual meeting or something or if there was an NBCR threat where the threat would need to be completly elimated in one clean sweep.

The Glorious Empire of Naasha will use any weapon it feels is necessary to defeat a terrorist force which poses a threat to the Empire.

What about the use of small <50 kt warheads designed to vapourise biological and chemical warheads?

we of imperial isa ask you this are you willing to go to war
if you drop said weapons in said places if they happen in other nations
with out asking them for the ok to use said weapons in there nation againts the terrorist?

The Glorious Empire found it difficult to understand the last post, due to a lack of punctuation.

Of course, the Empress is compassionate, so we will not condone the usage of a nuclear device on a heavily populated area, nor do we possess a nuclear device over 50 kt. But the safety of the Empire, and it's citizens will take precedent, and we shall not hesitate to use any means to protect them from terrorist scum.

we of imperial isa ask you this are you willing to go to war if you drop said weapons in said places if they happen in other nations with out asking them for the ok to use said weapons in there nation againts the terrorist?

The Empire feels that if the terrorists are hiding out in a friendly nation, tactical cruise missiles would be used instead .

The Glorious Empire found it difficult to understand the last post, due to a lack of punctuation.

Of course, the Empress is compassionate, so we will not condone the usage of a nuclear device on a heavily populated area, nor do we possess a nuclear device over 50 kt. But the safety of the Empire, and it's citizens will take precedent, and we shall not hesitate to use any means to protect them from terrorist scum.

The Empire of Mationbuds would like to point out that the Nashaa would not be able to use nuclear weapons simply because they dont have any .

The Empire feels that if the terrorists are hiding out in a friendly nation, tactical cruise missiles would be used instead .

there are but you dont have ties with them.

will you ask them for the ok to hit gourp in there nation?

if they say no will you give them the infor so they can hit them?

Naasha's state of nuclear armament should not concern the Mationbuds.

OOC: Naasha in fact possesses two very small portable nuclear devices, purchased on the black market, both are duds, although Naasha is not aware of this.

My duty, first and foremost, is to protect my people, and I have failed in that important duty not just once, but two times. My people have witnessed what large-scale destruction is wrought by nuclear weapons firsthand when a large industrial city known as Shelbyton was destroyed by an ICBM, but even so, it is my duty to protect those living in my nation, and I shall.

~ Regent Taunja Lockeheart of the MRR.

While we are not currently involved in the WATA, it should be noted that Pale Rider Arms and Otagia deny any responsibility for the bioweapon attack on Romandeos. While it is true that a PRA weapon was indeed used, we cannot take responsibility for the actions of our customers.

Yours,
Daniel Quetzal
CEO of Pale Rider Arms
Regent-Elect of Otagia

OOC: Hey, you brought it up (barely), and I'm sticking to my guns here. :D

I believe that we should use non-nuclear means like precision-guided munitions. They could the job while minimizing collateral damage, and it possible to place these on ICBMs and they could locate their target(s).

The Republic of Kanami is STRONGLY Opposed to the use of any nuclear weapons in this day and age.

Being a strong advocate of Non-Proleferation, of all weapons of mass distruction and otherwise harm, we feel sinking to such measures is barbaric, and outragous, and nothing more as a means to put a nation under one's thumb.

Nuclear weapons also have very long term consequences from fall outs, radiation-rain, and other radilogical side-effects. Not to mention the mass civilan casualties it insues on towns, cities, villages, and communities.

While we have never experienced a true nuclear blast, our forces have had near-similar measures inacted on our fleets, fortunatley non of our civilans.

Ban the weapons, and make the world safer, not dangerous.

Elenore Romney

Naasha's state of nuclear armament should not concern the Mationbuds.

OOC: Naasha in fact possesses two very small portable nuclear devices, purchased on the black market, both are duds, although Naasha is not aware of this.

OOC :
Technically nations must have a pop of at least 200 Mil before being able to aqquire nuclear weaponary . But 2 , oh well .

IC :

In fact is does concern us . If you require aid from us for nuclear armament to use as deterrents , then it will be by all means provided .

there are but you dont have ties with them.

will you ask them for the ok to hit gourp in there nation?

if they say no will you give them the infor so they can hit them?

The Empire will no doubt inform the involved nations of the intended tactical nuclear or cruise missile strike . However we stress that if the terrorist cell will be there for a short time , we will fire the cruise missiles without warning .

OOC: Naasha in fact possesses two very small portable nuclear devices, purchased on the black market, both are duds, although Naasha is not aware of this.

OOC: This was my point really, Naasha does not possess nuclear capabilities, because it would be a total Godmod for such a small nation, however, being the pyschotic dictatorship we are, we're allowed to think we do! ;)

The People's Republic of Great Nari feels that the use of Nuclear weapons for offensive purposes should not be santioned by the WATA. In our opinion they are far too powerful, and cause many post issues. I believe that Clandonia Prime is feeling many of those effects as we speak. We shall vote on offensive weapons, however defensive weapons are ok.

The country of ZAckaroth believes that Nuclear weapons should be used as an offenseive weapon if and only if the nation attacking has a large defense and is a threat to every other nations soverginty.