NationStates Jolt Archive

With the turning back of the Ackistani fleet by a combination of international pressure and supeiror Clandonian firepower the attention turned to what they would do. With peace with Blainsville for now, commanders turned to the Ackistanis. Regarded as being very slimey, and belived by many in the inteligence circles for aiding in the nuclear attacks and the subsquent bombing on the refugee camp. The action was decided, a naval excursion to Akistani homewaters to get back at the cheeky monkeys for daring to blockade Clandonia and also to put pressure on them while the talks were going on with Blainsville where one Clandonia vesel was already going.

Naval commanders decided, a good chunk of the Dridon to be backed by the Victor fleets carrier support. A divison of 3rd Commando would go as well incase of 'needed' assistance. The 20 Nimrods MR4's of 142 Squadron were diverted ready for deployment with the fleet combined with the Strategical Tanker Squadron and the 4th Bomber Wing from the scandavian bases.

3x Carriers: 1x Invincible class, 1x Cavour Class, 1x Nimitz Class CVN
CNS Raptor
CNS Seaknight
CNS Wolfpack


2x Amphibious/ Assault Ships: 1x Albion Class, 1x SAN ANTONIO CLASS (LPD)
CNS Marine Fighter
CNS General Mitigen


6x Destroyers: 2x Hydra Class FFH/FFG, 1x Sovremenny Class DDG, 3x Duke Class (type 23) FFG: URCS Firewind
URCS Scinfix
URCS Lingword
URCS Briton
URCS Eagle
URCS Vitron



8x Frigates: 4x Type 45 Daring Class DDG, 4x Anzac Class FFH/FFG
CNS Titan
CNS Vengence
CNS Tilordon
CNS Pirodon
CNS Nightmare
CNS Sea Wolf
CNS Scorpion Sting
CNS Belkan Fighter


16x Submarines: 2x Type 212A/214 Class SSK. 4x Collins Class SSK, 10x Ohio Class Missile Cruisers (Can fire ICBMs , SRBMs , Tridents , Polaris)
CNS Orca Knight
CNS Wishthink
CNS Leewound
CNS Venom
CNS Tauri
CNS Kara
CNS Python
CNS Rattlesnake
CNS Shiva
CNS Viator
CNS Panther
CNS Sea Splash
CNS Archer
CNS Mobios
CNS Pikey
CNS Highnoon


4x Fleet Auxiliaries: 1x Durance Class AOE, 1x Etna Class AOR, 2x Supply Class AOE
CNS Piekbroad
CNS Pishwake
CNS Hornet
CNS Piranah


OOC: This I hope will not turn into a bitch fest, only small nations will be allowed in I.E. people who joined in September 2006. To allies and friends, moan and threaten IC'ly all you want but please don't send in the ub3r flying aircraft carriers. This will be MT and at the most very very early PMT.

Coded Transmission to the Government of Clandonia Prime:

"The People's Republic of Great Nari would be willing to help with your endevour under the condition that when the war is over we claim half of Ackistan's land as our own. We believe that by working together, your goals as well as ours can be achieved."

Encrypted transmison to The People's Republic of Great Nari


As of yet, we are not prepared to launch a ground conflict, we do not have the troops required for a possible invasion. If war commences we will call in your aid. Prepartions and plas have been made for an offensive, we advise that your government readies its armed forces in the event and draws it own battle agendas.

OOC: Is there a map I could look at?

"Ground plans are being drawn up and should be completed within a few hours. Our military forces have been put on high alert in the event of our involvement. We am alerting you that three of our Fire Dragon Class Submarines have been deployed and will be stationed around Achistan waters. They will make contact with you as they arrive closer."

OOC: Nope, Ackistan needs to make us a map0rz.

OOC: Nope, Ackistan needs to make us a map0rz.

OOC: Probably, or just a general guess of land mass and shape.

OOC: So in what direction to you intend to see this Rp go?

OOC :
I'll just monitor this .

IC :

Upon hearing of a renewed conflict , the Imperial Fleet dispatched 2 Advanced Recon Scout Destroyers and a Trafalgar Class SBN as a support craft .Their mission was to observe the battle but had orders strictly barring them from helping either sides ...

OOC: So in what direction to you intend to see this Rp go?

OOC: Proberly a naval skirmish or a massive air attack, then eventually all out war usually as it occurs in NS.

This is an Official Order from the Office of the President:

"All reserves are to be ready to be called to active duty at anytime, but are ordered to maintain their daily structure. Ten thousand ground troops will be made available for dispatch to the nation of Ackistan at a moments notice. Prepare all available battleships and aircraft carriers for deployment as well. Three Fire Dragon Class Submarines have already left and are currently outside Ackistanian waters. Do not alert the media to the reason why this order has been given. No information need be given away. Thank you."

With the turning back of the Ackistani fleet by a combination of international pressure and supeiror Clandonian firepower the attention turned to what they would do. With peace with Blainsville for now, commanders turned to the Ackistanis. Regarded as being very slimey, and belived by many in the inteligence circles for aiding in the nuclear attacks and the subsquent bombing on the refugee camp. The action was decided, a naval excursion to Akistani homewaters to get back at the cheeky monkeys for daring to blockade Clandonia and also to put pressure on them while the talks were going on with Blainsville where one Clandonia vesel was already going.

Dartian Public Statement


Dartia issues the following statement:

1. Akistan was not involved in the nuclear attacks on Clandonia.
2. Akistan discouraged Blainsville's attack on Clandonia's refugee camp.
3. Akistan's attempt to use a naval blockade to stop nukes from entering Clandonia was a good idea. We agree Clandonia is too unstable to be trusted with lots of nukes.
4. Clandonia was the first to use nuclear weapons when they were fighting Blainsville.
5. Clandonia was nuked 30+ times. Nobody takes that kind of beating then starts a new war unless they are insane.

Dartia wishes Akistan good luck in this fight. We would offer help but we doubt a nation that already lost their 30+ most important cities and military bases will give you any trouble. Plus, I don't really have much of a military anyway.

Message to Dartia

Comrade, the fleet is only there while the talks on peace with Blainsville proceed. No hostile action will be done now, this is a close protection unit.

Dartian Public Statement


Dartia issues the following statement:

1. Akistan was not involved in the nuclear attacks on Clandonia.
2. Akistan discouraged Blainsville's attack on Clandonia's refugee camp.
3. Akistan's attempt to use a naval blockade to stop nukes from entering Clandonia was a good idea. We agree Clandonia is too unstable to be trusted with lots of nukes.
4. Clandonia was the first to use nuclear weapons when they were fighting Blainsville.
5. Clandonia was nuked 30+ times. Nobody takes that kind of beating then starts a new war unless they are insane.

Dartia wishes Akistan good luck in this fight. We would offer help but we doubt a nation that already lost their 30+ most important cities and military bases will give you any trouble. Plus, I don't really have much of a military anyway.

Official Message from the Dominion

Clandonia is part of the Dominion Commonwealth. Meaning that they can’t use nukes like they have used before. They are only used as a last option. Only my word, the word of the Lord Marshal, will allow the use of WMDs.

Signed,
Count JWolf
The God-Emperor of the Dominion
The Lord Marshal of the Dominion Commonwealth

OOC: Clandonia, I'll let you decide whether or not this is ok. I would like to be involved, but not full out. I'd like to contribute my Blackwatch mercenaries to ackistan is actual fighting breaks out. Its only a division of men, with some air and naval support(One small carrier group, or a few squadrens of planes, depending on the conflict). They are expertly trained, better than most of my normal units, but its a small force, and wouldn't likely give a large advantage either way, as most even small militaries are a lot larger. But I'll let you decide if this is ok or not.

OOC: Clandonia, I'll let you decide whether or not this is ok. I would like to be involved, but not full out. I'd like to contribute my Blackwatch mercenaries to ackistan is actual fighting breaks out. Its only a division of men, with some air and naval support(One small carrier group, or a few squadrens of planes, depending on the conflict). They are expertly trained, better than most of my normal units, but its a small force, and wouldn't likely give a large advantage either way, as most even small militaries are a lot larger. But I'll let you decide if this is ok or not.

OOC: Hmm yeah, but later on and if you join in I accept Mationbuds to join as well with a sensible match to yours. I don't know how this will kick off I'm glad its weekend soon so I have more time and I hope Ackistan posts soon.

Message to Dartia

Comrade, the fleet is only there while the talks on peace with Blainsville proceed. No hostile action will be done now, this is a close protection unit.

OOC: I am new here. Could you explain what a close protection unit means? Does that mean your navy is hanging our near your country to give it protection?

OOC: No, the idea of the taskforce is to watch over the talks between me, Ackistan, Blainsville on the peace talks after Blainsville bombed a refugee camp. The idea is to put presure on Blainsville, if he dosnt accept peace then I blow the bastard to bits.

OOC: Hmm yeah, but later on and if you join in I accept Mationbuds to join as well with a sensible match to yours.

OOC: And you forgot about me, too. Your big brother that’s helping rebuilt your nation.

OOC: And you forgot about me, too. Your big brother that’s helping rebuilt your nation.

OOC: Indeed, I just don't want it becoming WW VIII, no small nations get to have a chance.

OOC: Indeed, I just don't want it becoming WW VIII, no small nations get to have a chance.

OOC: I concur.

OOC: No, the idea of the taskforce is to watch over the talks between me, Ackistan, Blainsville on the peace talks after Blainsville bombed a refugee camp. The idea is to put presure on Blainsville, if he dosnt accept peace then I blow the bastard to bits.

OOC: Cool. I haven't really posted much, but I have been reading the board. I know Blainsville is Switzerland. Akistan is Belgium and Netherlands. Which country are you? Can I be someplace small like the Island of Corsica? It is a small island that belongs to France located between Italy and France.

OOC: Indeed, I just don't want it becoming WW VIII, no small nations get to have a chance.

OOC: All I was going to was use some Blood Wolves, Sword Wolves and etc. And not a large number of them. And for those that don’t know, those are names of divisions in my Armed Forces.

OOC: Cool. I haven't really posted much, but I have been reading the board. I know Blainsville is Switzerland. Akistan is Belgium and Netherlands. Which country are you? Can I be someplace small like the Island of Corsica? It is a small island that belongs to France located between Italy and France.

OOC: I don't see anything wrong with that. I don't know what region or things your in but I'm sure if your all near each that would be fine.

OOC: Cool. I haven't really posted much, but I have been reading the board. I know Blainsville is Switzerland. Akistan is Belgium and Netherlands. Which country are you? Can I be someplace small like the Island of Corsica? It is a small island that belongs to France located between Italy and France.

OOC as you are new and small i give you a heads up
if your nation hits oil same were keep to your self dont tell us
the others can tell you why

Now I'm sorry,I really did not want to get involved here. But explain how that massive fleet survived 32 nuclear missiles aimed all over your nation?

Now I'm sorry,I really did not want to get involved here. But explain how that massive fleet survived 32 nuclear missiles aimed all over your nation?

OOC: Magic! I have not idea and thanks for telling me that. *evil grin*

OOC: Magic! I have not idea and thanks for telling me that. *evil grin*

...how does this affect you?

...how does this affect you?

OOC: A Commonwealth state, my friend. CP is a Dominion Commonwealth state after you launching thirty-two nukes at his land. I’m cleaning his nation up with my clean up crews and then going to rebuild.

OOC: The fleet wasn't sailing in Cladnonia Prime's cities. And people survived thanks to a combination of getting several hours warning after each ICBM launch and plenty of time to find areas underground or utilized pre-built bunkers.

The new fleet are ships from harbors that were not hit, ships that were at sea, and ships given to them by the alliance they are in.

My original Letter to ackistan stands in this thread. I am in the pacific.

OOC: The fleet wasn't sailing in Cladnonia Prime's cities. And people survived thanks to a combination of getting several hours warning after each ICBM launch and plenty of time to find areas underground or utilized pre-built bunkers.

The new fleet are ships from harbors that were not hit, ships that were at sea, and ships given to them by the alliance they are in.

My original Letter to ackistan stands in this thread. I am in the pacific.

...A) You are not Clandonia, please do not speak for him
B) There was the initial 12 ICBM attack, launched from different silos without a pause, then about a half hour went by, ending that peace with 20 more ICBM's launched in rapid succession.
C) So his entire fleet was luckily not in port at the time of my strike? Unlikely. Every city in Clandonia, if not directly hit by a nuke, will be a radioactive wasteland. He even was wise enough to move his people below ground because of this.

B) There was the initial 12 ICBM attack, launched from different silos without a pause, then about a half hour went by, ending that peace with 20 more ICBM's launched in rapid succession.


OOC: It takes HOURS for an ICBM to travel...

C) So his entire fleet was luckily not in port at the time of my strike?

I never said that. Do not turn this into another bitch fest.

OOC: I agree. If that is what this is going to turn into then Blackhelm should leave.

OOC: I do not want this thread to turn into a bitch fest, but I don't want to have to deal with the nonsense that came into play in the last thread either. Before I consent to participating in this thread, the following must be agreed to:

- September and newer countries are free to join either side and contribute as much as they are able.
- Everyone uses modern tech. I reserve the right to determine what is modern tech for the purposes of this thread only. Clandonia Prime will have the right to determine if anything I use is too advanced.
- Larger nations are welcome to participate, but their contributions will be limited. They can send up $50 billion worth of money or hardware. If they deploy troops, they should not exceed 20,000 combat troops. The value of whatever they send counts against their $50 billion limit. Larger nations are prohibited from using nukes or stealth stuff against the smaller nations. Of course, if one of the small nations attacks one of the larger nations, then all bets are off, and a new thread should be created. I reserve the right to determine if a large nation is sending too much stuff to help Clandonia Prime. Clandonia Prime has the right to determine if a large nation is sending too much aid to me. Humanitarian aid can be sent freely to anyone involved without limit.
- The Blackhelm Confederacy has basing rights in my country. If his base is threatened, he is allowed to use all the assets he has at that base to defend it regardless of their value. Otherwise, he is bound by the other rules (modern tech, $50 billion limit, etc).
- Mationbuds isn't welcome in this thread.
- Anyone participating in the thread should indicate where their nation is located. For instance, my nation occupies Belgium and the Netherlands. Dartia said he wants to be Corsica. Blainesville says he is Switzerland. For the purpose of this thread, you can be wherever you want provided you don't pick a spot that shares a border with a nation already involved in the conflict. If you want to share a border with someone, you need that person's consent first. I will make a map that shows where everyone is and keep it updated.
- I have no problem with Clandonia Prime's fleet as it is possible his fleet was at sea when his nation was nuked. However, I would like an assessment of the condition of Clandonia Prime since NSEconomy probably doesn't paint an accurate picture as it doesn't take the nuclear attack into consideration.

If you agree, Clandonia Prime, I'll play along.

OOC: I should also tell you now that this Saturday and part of Sunday I will be visiting my Dad, and won't be online.

Also, I have no idea where Clandonia Prime is. I will need that infor before I can post IC.

OOC: - Everyone uses modern tech. I reserve the right to determine what is modern tech for the purposes of this thread only. Clandonia Prime will have the right to determine if anything I use is too advanced.

OOC: Good, I use my MT soldiers. My ground forces are good enough. I use some helicopters.

- Larger nations are welcome to participate, but their contributions will be limited. They can send up $50 billion worth of money or hardware. If they deploy troops, they should not exceed 20,000 combat troops. The value of whatever they send counts against their $50 billion limit. Larger nations are prohibited from using nukes or stealth stuff against the smaller nations. Of course, if one of the small nations attacks one of the larger nations, then all bets are off, and a new thread should be created. I reserve the right to determine if a large nation is sending too much stuff to help Clandonia Prime. Clandonia Prime has the right to determine if a large nation is sending too much aid to me. Humanitarian aid can be sent freely to anyone involved without limit.

OOC: Deal, I use no more then 20,000 combat troops.

- Anyone participating in the thread should indicate where their nation is located. For instance, my nation occupies Belgium and the Netherlands. Dartia said he wants to be Corsica. Blainesville says he is Switzerland. For the purpose of this thread, you can be wherever you want provided you don't pick a spot that shares a border with a nation already involved in the conflict. If you want to share a border with someone, you need that person's consent first. I will make a map that shows where everyone is and keep it updated.

OOC: Weird, I border you and own Blainesville's land. I role-play owning most of Europe. I’m thinking about taking out some of them because I have land in other places. I say Blainesville has Switzerland and I use my Germany and Luxembourg land to attack you. On CP’s call that is.

OOC: Weird, I border you and own Blainesville. I role-play owning most of Europe. I’m thinking about taking out some of them because I land in other places. I say Blainesville has Switzerland and I use my Germany and Luxembourg land to attack you. On CP’s call that is.

TWSP takes Germany for Blainesville, as I have based attacks from there already.

TWSP takes Germany for Blainesville, as I have based attacks from there already.

OOC: Dude, I have had control over Germany for a long time. Way before Blackhelm or TWSP or Blainesville existed.

TWSP is already in the one near Blainesville. There are probably multiple Europes in NS

TWSP is already in the one near Blainesville. There are probably multiple Europes in NS

OOC: Yup and right now, I own Germany for a whole RL year in the game (Summer of 2005) and this big list of RL nation land; Albania, Andorra, Armenia, Austria, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Bosnia & Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Croatia, Czech Republic, Estonia, Georgia [the country, not the state], Germany, Gibraltar, Greece, Hungary, Italy, Jordan, Latvia, Lebanon, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Macedonia, Malta, Moldova, Poland, Romania, San Marino, Serbia & Montenegro, Slovakia, Slovenia, Syria, Turkey, Ukraine, and Western Russia [Northwest Russia, Southwest Russia and Central West Russia]. I took out Switzerland for Blainesville.

No more OOC post from me.

OOC: Hmm... that is a little complication. With 100,000+ nations playing NS, I guess it makes sense that many people would role-play the same countries. Few people role-play nations in Africa and South America, so I guess we got a lot of folks concentrated in places like Europe.

I respect everyone's right to role-play their nations wherever they wish. Obviously, multiple people can't play the same nation in the same thread.

I doubt any of the small nations that will participate in this thread will want a large enemy on their border. I know I don't. I imagine if Transylvania took Germany, his nation would be used as a base to attack me, but my ability to attack Germany would be limited. If I attacked him, I would be opening the flood gates for him to use the full might of his military. That scenario is why I suggested people choose nations that don't border ones already in the fight without their consent.

How about for the purposes of THIS THREAD ONLY, Germany is a neutral nation. Trannsylvania could perhaps be Norway, Sweden, and Finland? Everyone involved would agree that people who aren't using their usual territories in this thread aren't giving them up, just making a concession so this role-play can happen.

OOC: I doubt any of the small nations that will participate in this thread will want a large enemy on their border. I know I don't. I imagine if Transylvania took Germany, his nation would be used as a base to attack me, but my ability to attack Germany would be limited. If I attacked him, I would be opening the flood gates for him to use the full might of his military. That scenario is why I suggested people choose nations that don't border ones already in the fight without their consent.

OOC: True, I would have the option to open the flood gates on your nation. But will I do it, the answer is no. You have a limit for use big nations, I will use that limit and nothing higher.

OOC: How about for the purposes of THIS THREAD ONLY, Germany is a neutral nation. Transylvania could perhaps be Norway, Sweden, and Finland? Everyone involved would agree that people who aren't using their usual territories in this thread aren't giving them up, just making a concession so this role-play can happen.

OOC: How about no, the for it is this…I don’t role-play owning Norway, Sweden, and Finland. I role-play owning Germany. There is my ass side, I will agree with the soldier limit but not this nonsense.

I agree to all. I am an island about the size of Iran and I am somewhere west of this current situation.

OOC: Sounds good to me. I am a bunch of equatorial pacific islands a little ways east of the date line. Way on the other side of the planet from this.

OOC: You listed 30+ nations that you role-play. How about you pick a few that aren't right next to me or Blainesville and play them? If this is unacceptable, your participation is not required.

OOC: You listed 30+ nations that you role-play. How about you pick a few that aren't right next to me or Blainesville and play them? If this is unacceptable, your participation is not required.

OOC: How about not because I role-play every one of those nation, longer then you and the other have been on NS? Take my words that I’m not going to “OMG?!?!? Two million soldiers storm into your lands and kill everything. LOL!!!” I’m not going to do that.

And it makes no sense for something, that I have role-played owning for the last year and I can’t be used by me. Think about it?

My participation is required, if you think about it. CP is a Dominion Commonwealth state that you tried to blockade. Meaning that would blocked my trade with my own state. Meaning you are my enemy list.

OOC: The Transylvania, seriously, not cool man. Using bad grammar and attempting to do just whatever you feel like because you've "been here longer"? It's bad enough there has been RP rule breaking in violation of the stickies. Could you refrain from doing the same yourself?

OOC: How about not because I role-play every one of those nation, longer then you and the other have been on NS? Take my words that I’m not going to “OMG?!?!? Two million soldiers storm into your lands and kill everything. LOL!!!” I’m not going to do that.

And it makes no sense for something, that I have role-played owning for the last year and I can’t be used by me. Think about it?

My participation is required, if you think about it. CP is a Dominion Commonwealth state that you tried to blockade. Meaning that would blocked my trade with my own state. Meaning you are my enemy list.

OOC: Hey trans, don't make me dig out the RL Nations list. You know, the thread that has been around about twice as long as your nation? Where all the crap you claim to own had already been taken?

Perhaps I should attempt to get in contact with Russian Forces, and ask him to come back to tell you to back the hell off?

Shit man, these guys are on their own version of earth. They don't accept your claims. I'm not coming in, claiming france, parts of spain, vast parts of africa, and whatever the hell else I owned(I don't really RP with them now, I gave them self determination, with a vow to keep them protected from foreign aggression).

Keep your claims to whatever earth or map you got your claims on.

And Acki, I'm quite agreeable with your rules. I won't be RPing as any nation per-se, just consider me about south africa distance away for the purpose of this RP. My nation is about the size of africa, with a second continent the size of australia.

OOC: Transylvania, the last time we tried to have our small nation MT conflict, you showed up with 80 flying aircraft carriers plus a bunch of other stuff and refused to leave. This time around, you have no say as to what is permitted and what is not. You can live with the rules or leave. I would prefer you leave, but I am leaving you the option of staying and following the rules in the interest of fairness to Clandonia Prime.

If you elect to leave, I ask you cease posting here immediately.

Dartian Public Statement


Dartia issues the following statement:

1. Akistan was not involved in the nuclear attacks on Clandonia.
2. Akistan discouraged Blainsville's attack on Clandonia's refugee camp.
3. Akistan's attempt to use a naval blockade to stop nukes from entering Clandonia was a good idea. We agree Clandonia is too unstable to be trusted with lots of nukes.
4. Clandonia was the first to use nuclear weapons when they were fighting Blainsville.
5. Clandonia was nuked 30+ times. Nobody takes that kind of beating then starts a new war unless they are insane.

Dartia wishes Akistan good luck in this fight. We would offer help but we doubt a nation that already lost their 30+ most important cities and military bases will give you any trouble. Plus, I don't really have much of a military anyway.


IC :

We are pleased to inform that our shipment of Nuclear Weaponary , Satellites and Submarines have sucessfully reached Clandonia Prime after the Ackistani blockade was frightened off by an Imperial Strike Fleet .

Now I'm sorry,I really did not want to get involved here. But explain how that massive fleet survived 32 nuclear missiles aimed all over your nation?

Hmm , since you launched 32 nukes at Clandonia Prime , he is also now under my protection . And dont forget you didnt post losses for the nukes I aimed at your bases .

...A) You are not Clandonia, please do not speak for him
B) There was the initial 12 ICBM attack, launched from different silos without a pause, then about a half hour went by, ending that peace with 20 more ICBM's launched in rapid succession.
C) So his entire fleet was luckily not in port at the time of my strike? Unlikely. Every city in Clandonia, if not directly hit by a nuke, will be a radioactive wasteland. He even was wise enough to move his people below ground because of this.

OOC :

And dont forget about the Thor and Patriot Missile batteries as well as the Missile Cruisers and Aegis Cruisers I stationed at CP , they would've shot down most of your ICBMs with their advanced weaponary and radar . They would've also been shot down by my 2 Silver Sky Orbital Weapons platforms which shoot chemical lasers and Thor Anti-ICBM Missiles .

OOC: I do not want this thread to turn into a bitch fest, but I don't want to have to deal with the nonsense that came into play in the last thread either. Before I consent to participating in this thread, the following must be agreed to:

- September and newer countries are free to join either side and contribute as much as they are able.
- Everyone uses modern tech. I reserve the right to determine what is modern tech for the purposes of this thread only. Clandonia Prime will have the right to determine if anything I use is too advanced.
- Larger nations are welcome to participate, but their contributions will be limited. They can send up $50 billion worth of money or hardware. If they deploy troops, they should not exceed 20,000 combat troops. The value of whatever they send counts against their $50 billion limit. Larger nations are prohibited from using nukes or stealth stuff against the smaller nations. Of course, if one of the small nations attacks one of the larger nations, then all bets are off, and a new thread should be created. I reserve the right to determine if a large nation is sending too much stuff to help Clandonia Prime. Clandonia Prime has the right to determine if a large nation is sending too much aid to me. Humanitarian aid can be sent freely to anyone involved without limit.
- The Blackhelm Confederacy has basing rights in my country. If his base is threatened, he is allowed to use all the assets he has at that base to defend it regardless of their value. Otherwise, he is bound by the other rules (modern tech, $50 billion limit, etc).
- Mationbuds isn't welcome in this thread.
- Anyone participating in the thread should indicate where their nation is located. For instance, my nation occupies Belgium and the Netherlands. Dartia said he wants to be Corsica. Blainesville says he is Switzerland. For the purpose of this thread, you can be wherever you want provided you don't pick a spot that shares a border with a nation already involved in the conflict. If you want to share a border with someone, you need that person's consent first. I will make a map that shows where everyone is and keep it updated.
- I have no problem with Clandonia Prime's fleet as it is possible his fleet was at sea when his nation was nuked. However, I would like an assessment of the condition of Clandonia Prime since NSEconomy probably doesn't paint an accurate picture as it doesn't take the nuclear attack into consideration.

If you agree, Clandonia Prime, I'll play along.



OOC :
I already made it clear , if Blackhelm comes in , I come too .

The Clandonian fleet spread out across the ocean, the spray covering the decks of the ships. The massive force was the biggest in Clandonian history, on the decks of the carriers jets from the Fleet Air Arm were strapped down being loaded up for sorties out at sea. Nimrod patrols had reconed the area and made contact with Great Narian submarine forces. Relations had been strengthed and they were prepared to aid Clandonian forces in the event of war.

With the current situation going on the leader of the airforce got a suprise letter on his desk this morning placing him and the Admiral of the Navy under the two man rule. Command were really taking this seriously.



OOC: I agree to the rules Ackistan now make a map0rz! :p

OOC:

Clandonia Prime,

I am going to try to make the map this afternoon, but I don't know where your nation is. I'll make the map in such a fashion that nations can be added later without too much difficulty.

Since this thread already has a lot of OOC comments in it, I propose we designate this thread as the OOC thread for the conflict. Essentially, just use it to get everything setup.

As I mentioned in another post, I am visiting my Dad this weekend. Perhaps we could just plan who is where and on what side for the time being, then begin fighting Sunday afternoon, so I don't leave you guys hanging for a couple days?

Great Nari,

I was just about to get started making the map. You said you wanted an island west of the conflict... Would Ireland or Iceland be alright?

Great Nari,

I was just about to get started making the map. You said you wanted an island west of the conflict... Would Ireland or Iceland be alright?

OOC: I have always Rped as an uncharted island until I came out of isolationism, but if we are going to with real places (which I am fine with) then go ahead and give Ireland.

Message to Great Narian Military

We request the use of your airbases and refueling facitilies due to nature of the extent of the campaign ahead of us. We would like to use your airbases to refuel Nimrod and possibly bomber aircraft as well as keeping heavy long range transports there. In return we will grant you what ever you want in Ackistan.

Message to Great Narian Military

We request the use of your airbases and refueling facitilies due to nature of the extent of the campaign ahead of us. We would like to use your airbases to refuel Nimrod and possibly bomber aircraft as well as keeping heavy long range transports there. In return we will grant you what ever you want in Ackistan.

"After careful consideration this is acceptable. You may use our facilities as needed."

"After careful consideration this is acceptable. You may use our facilities as needed."


The 17th Tanker and 142 Nimrod Squadron on its way with the Air Command Field HQ to co-ordinate the air mission.

"Good. We are informing you that we are moving four Battleships to the area, and one Aircraft carrier."

Another squadron of planes arrived at Clandonian teritorys in Scandanavia, six E-3's and the 12th Bomber wing of twenty B-52's. Local commanders had been in a rush of activity to get prepared for the massive influx of large aircraft. The airstrip was usually just reserved for the usual C-130K flights or at the most a C-5 or C-17. Never had long range bombers arrived at the base.

OOC: This is near Sweden and the islands around there, Southern Artic.

The IC invasion of my country will have to wait until Sunday afternoon. As I mentioned in my first post in this thread, I am visiting my father this weekend. I simply won't be able to participate.

Feel free to carve up my land, forge alliances, discuss basing rights, etc; but as far as I am concerned no troops are moving.

Clandonia Prime, I need to know the location of your nation. I also wish to see the assessment of your nation, which you agreed to provide. It will be instrumental in my decision as to whether or not this thread warrants participation. Basically, I will be looking for signs that you took real damage from those nukes, and that you didn't accept trillions of dollars in aid from Mationbuds, which he couldn't afford to give.

OOC: The fact that my fleet was already out at the time in Scandanavia looking after my oil platforms and then returned to Clandonia to aid in the cleanup. I've taken 7.2 million dead, much of the cities were destroyed and the glaciers advanced down further so people have no retreated underground. Uranium mining keeps on going fueling nuclear reactors and of course the weapons programe. Several nations besides MB have given money including my GASN, ADAN and Commonwealth allies. I'm located in the Golden Triangle I have a small terrirotry in Northen Scandanavia from before the war where there is a large base from where I fought the native rebels with the other setlers. Economically we are exporting a lot of uranium and have secure oil and natural resources in the oversea territorys and the North of Clandonia. The major cities are still being cleaned up but because of the sevre ice age it looks like people will be living underground, thats why I'm building subterrain airbases, towns, and military instatalions not just for protection but becaue of the weather conditions.

The IC invasion of my country will have to wait until Sunday afternoon. As I mentioned in my first post in this thread, I am visiting my father this weekend. I simply won't be able to participate.

Feel free to carve up my land, forge alliances, discuss basing rights, etc; but as far as I am concerned no troops are moving.

Clandonia Prime, I need to know the location of your nation. I also wish to see the assessment of your nation, which you agreed to provide. It will be instrumental in my decision as to whether or not this thread warrants participation. Basically, I will be looking for signs that you took real damage from those nukes, and that you didn't accept trillions of dollars in aid from Mationbuds, which he couldn't afford to give.

OOC :

You are terribly arrogant for a young nation . Anyway I have the resources to give CP . If you dont want to buy it , it is your problem . And the nukes that I gave CP I can definately afford those .

OOC: The Transylvania, seriously, not cool man. Using bad grammar and attempting to do just whatever you feel like because you've "been here longer"? It's bad enough there has been RP rule breaking in violation of the stickies. Could you refrain from doing the same yourself?

OOC: Stop talking about my grammar, I’m dyslexic. Do know you know hat that IS? You have cross an line that you can’t come back from. I’m tried of you, Guathic, you are making fun of me. Now, shut up about my grammar or I report you to the mods.

OOC: Hey trans, don't make me dig out the RL Nations list. You know, the thread that has been around about twice as long as your nation? Where all the crap you claim to own had already been taken?

OOC: The RL Nations list is Earth One or whatever it is. I’m on NS Earth. So, I don’t care.

Perhaps I should attempt to get in contact with Russian Forces, and ask him to come back to tell you to back the hell off?

OOC: So…you going to call in another big nation to bully me to back off. I don’t care.

Shit man, these guys are on their own version of earth. They don't accept your claims. I'm not coming in, claiming france, parts of spain, vast parts of africa, and whatever the hell else I owned (I don't really RP with them now, I gave them self determination, with a vow to keep them protected from foreign aggression).

OOC: Nope, it is not like I just hope in and said I claim this as the Dominion. I have had control over those land for almost one year and a half reallife years.

Keep your claims to whatever earth or map you got your claims on.

OOC: I claimed them on the NS Earth.

OOC: Transylvania, the last time we tried to have our small nation MT conflict, you showed up with 80 flying aircraft carriers plus a bunch of other stuff and refused to leave.

OOC: What did I tell you in the last thread, those things were already on the way before that thread was start. Yes, I know I should have posted a link in my post. But I forgot.

This time around, you have no say as to what is permitted and what is not. You can live with the rules or leave.

OOC: My word is good, I have never did anything that I said I would not do. I will not, I repeat, I will not do an all out invasion on your land, using Germany as a launching point. I will use the limit of 20,000 combat soldiers in this RP.

I would prefer you leave, but I am leaving you the option of staying and following the rules in the interest of fairness to Clandonia Prime.

OOC: I’m going with the 20,000 combat limit, not the I can’t use Germany part, which still makes no sense to me. Did you want to have to use navy transports or something? My soldiers will not come in until CP needs them. Understand?

Just to weigh in with an OOC observation. Nuclear Winter and the resulting ice age are planetary conditions, and would require at least a few thousand nukes going off to throw enough dust into the air to make it possible. Clandonia Prime was hit with 32 nukes, and I think Blainesville and possibly BC were hit with a total of 3-5 nukes(?) so that's nowhere near enough.

From such a nuking, Clandonia would probably experience the following problems:

Severe radioactivity in the cities hit. Rebuilding will either have to wait until the ambient radiation settles or it will be very expensive as irradiated materials are shipped out and clean materials shipped in.

Regional temperatures would dip for a short period, so nights would be a bit nippier for a month or two.

Radiation sickness would be the biggest problem. Survivors of the blasts would have been treated to an unhealthy amount of radiation; many will not survive longer than a few weeks. Those that live through the first few weeks will have increased risk of cancer, lukemia and various anemias, infection from other diseases (immune systems are now extremely weak), birth defects and miscarraiges, and sterility. Your workforce will be in dire straits for a generation or two, and that means your economy will suffer as well.

Fallout will contaminate streams, fields, etc. Crops dusted by fallout will likely fail, and future crops grown there will have less than optimal yields. Food shortages will be likely. Drinkable water will also be a problem.

To sum up, failing a large cleanup program sponsered by the international community, Clandonia Prime will likely drop to Third World conditions for the next five to thirty years. Expect a breakdown of social order in the worst hit areas.

Suggestions on how to counter the effects (while still remaining MT):

Unaffected fields and forests should be devoted to food production where possible. Purification systems will be needed to filter water for your population to drink - they may be purchased, loaned, or given from other nations to get the ball rolling.

Your industry and military are going to have to weather the sudden drop in workers. Increased automation wherever possible might be your best bet. Otherwise, shift the economy away from afflicted industries. Loosening immigration laws / making it easier for immigrants to become citizens will also help. The military especially will have to go for quality rather than quantity - few numbers but more rugged and easier to maintain equipment.

This should help - I'm sure other nations can suggest more ideas.

Any errors are my own - more experienced RPers are welcome to poke holes.

OOC: He makes a lot of good points.

OOC: Thanks but I have said before the war we were going through an Ice Age that glaciers had been advancing south. Nuclear radiation after nuclear attacks is usually safe ish after about 14 days to reach ground zero in standard NBC gear. Most of the military is rather small and the amount of monetary and economic aid should keep us from turning into an LEDC, that an the combined increase on spending so much on law and order an the military means I will be able to quell any social unrest with a swift artilery barrage.

I need to make a post on the Clandonian Corporation who want to get back at Griffinfest after their HQ was hit. I launched at least 14 nukes at Blainsville as that was the size of my bomber force at the time, plus all the ones my allies sent in.

OOC: Looks good to me, Trivalvia. You didn’t miss a thing in that post. You are somewhat correct on the Nuclear Winter part, it would need hundreds not thousand of nuclear weapons to do that. These are the large ones not the ICBM tipped ones that Blackhelm used.

This is what I will say about, CP role-play the damage to your nation and what it has done to the normal day things in your nation. Like Trivalvia, your nation is going to be in Third World conditions. This what we will do, ignore the godly amount of weapons of mass destruction MB gave you (Which caused the whole Blockade thing) and role-playing your nation as it is being cleaned up. Use the money, one trillion dollars, to paid for the clean up crews and rebuilding crews then save what is left for your space program.

I will keep my fleets in your waters and in your skies to save guard you until you can stand back on your feet. Okay?

Then I and whoever wants will hound Blackhelm about the use of thirty-two nukes on your nation. Call a war crime and hunt down those that did the ordering.

OOC: Looks good to me, Trivalvia. You didn’t miss a thing in that post. You are somewhat correct on the Nuclear Winter part, it would need hundreds not thousand of nuclear weapons to do that. These are the large ones not the ICBM tipped ones that Blackhelm used.

This is what I will say about, CP role-play the damage to your nation and what it has done to the normal day things in your nation. Like Trivalvia, your nation is going to be in Third World conditions. This what we will do, ignore the godly amount of weapons of mass destruction MB gave you (Which caused the whole Blockade thing) and role-playing your nation as it is being cleaned up. Use the money, one trillion dollars, to paid for the clean up crews and rebuilding crews then save what is left for your space program.

I will keep my fleets in your waters and in your skies to save guard you until you can stand back on your feet. Okay?

Then I and whoever wants will hound Blackhelm about the use of thirty-two nukes on your nation. Call a war crime and hunt down those that did the ordering.


OOC :

I disagree . It is not ungodly and those are within my means .

OOC :

You are terribly arrogant for a young nation . Anyway I have the resources to give CP . If you dont want to buy it , it is your problem . And the nukes that I gave CP I can definately afford those .

You are one to speak of being small and arrogant. Your nation is incredibly poor and not large by any means except relative to some of the nations in this thread. You do not have the resources you claim, they are godmoding. take it from someone who has been on here more than four times longer than you have. You can afford some nukes, but trillion dollar gifts and your rediculously large and anywhere near decent military isn't affordable, without your nation collapsing.

OOC: Stop talking about my grammar, I’m dyslexic. Do know you know hat that IS? You have cross an line that you can’t come back from. I’m tried of you, Guathic, you are making fun of me. Now, shut up about my grammar or I report you to the mods.



OOC: The RL Nations list is Earth One or whatever it is. I’m on NS Earth. So, I don’t care.



OOC: So…you going to call in another big nation to bully me to back off. I don’t care.



OOC: Nope, it is not like I just hope in and said I claim this as the Dominion. I have had control over those land for almost one year and a half reallife years.



OOC: I claimed them on the NS Earth.



OOC: What did I tell you in the last thread, those things were already on the way before that thread was start. Yes, I know I should have posted a link in my post. But I forgot.



OOC: My word is good, I have never did anything that I said I would not do. I will not, I repeat, I will not do an all out invasion on your land, using Germany as a launching point. I will use the limit of 20,000 combat soldiers in this RP.



OOC: I’m going with the 20,000 combat limit, not the I can’t use Germany part, which still makes no sense to me. Did you want to have to use navy transports or something? My soldiers will not come in until CP needs them. Understand?

OOC: Your claims are not valid here. What part don't you understand? Other nations have claimed the nations you do, long before your nation even existed. So you can't claim you have them because you claimed them for a relatively long period of time. Similarly, The people in this thread are on a different earth than you are. They don't accept your claims. This is not your thread. Accept the terms, or leave. You with those claims are not wanted here.

OOC: I disagree. It is not ungodly and those are within my means.

OOC: I don’t care if you agree or disagree, those weapons of mass destruction were a large number that should have never be offered to anybody. WMDs should be your nation’s use, not to be offered to other people. We are not trying to start an all out Nuclear World War, are we?

I have never a WMD in any of the battles or war I have been in, the reason for that is they were waste of money and are weapons of a cheater. Not saying that I don’t know them, mine are there to be used for MAD and MAD only. So…if Blackhelm fired thirty-two nukes at me, he would have been nothing but a whisper in the air.

Nukes and other WMDs destroy story lines, anybody can say “32 nukes are fired at your nation.” But only real role-players, real writers, can role-play a war without WMDs. NS is for story telling, not to see how many nukes you can juggle.

OOC: I need the WMD's for the long term storyline. And I'm getting really sick of this argueing, I feel like scrapping the whole thing now.

OOC: I don’t care if you agree or disagree, those weapons of mass destruction were a large number that should have never be offered to anybody. WMDs should be your nation’s use, not to be offered to other people. We are not trying to start an all out Nuclear World War, are we?

I have never a WMD in any of the battles or war I have been in, the reason for that is they were waste of money and are weapons of a cheater. Not saying that I don’t know them, mine are there to be used for MAD and MAD only. So…if Blackhelm fired thirty-two nukes at me, he would have been nothing but a whisper in the air.

Nukes and other WMDs destroy story lines, anybody can say “32 nukes are fired at your nation.” But only real role-players, real writers, can role-play a war without WMDs. NS is for story telling, not to see how many nukes you can juggle.



OOC :

They are not meant for an all-out war ,just to act as an deterrent or a weapon of retaliation .

OOC: Your claims are not valid here. What part don't you understand? Other nations have claimed the nations you do, long before your nation even existed. So you can't claim you have them because you claimed them for a relatively long period of time. Similarly, The people in this thread are on a different earth than you are. They don't accept your claims. This is not your thread. Accept the terms, or leave. You with those claims are not wanted here.

OOC: You did not have to quote every part of my post, I mean that was just a waste of space. *Eye rolls*

Now, be gone because you are not wanted here. See you don’t like being told to leave, right? There is a limit to the age of a nation in this RP, Sep 2006 and you’re don’t fit in with that number. Your eight billion pop does not fit in with the nation in this RP. I don't fit in with that numbers, too. But if my state wants help, I will help him.

About other nations have claimed the nations I do, I know that. NS Earth, Earth One, Earth Two and the list goes on forever and forever. There are people on each of those that have control over what I own. And I have been around for as long as you have, I started in 2002 and only had three nations, counting this one. First one being Wolf Kingdom, which was hacked and lost to me forever.

Only one didn’t accept my claim of Germany, don’t know why because I did say that was not going to do an all invasion on him. I’m going to wait to see what he says or what CP say about it before I do anything.

OOC: I need the WMD's for the long term storyline. And I'm getting really sick of this argueing, I feel like scrapping the whole thing now.

OOC: Sounds like the best idea, we will rebuild your nation then you can have your revenge later. Because everybody don’t think you nation can have a navy after being hit by thirty-two nukes or a army for the same fact. And I’m not in that everybody. Your navy could have been out in the sea during the army. Your army, or some of them, could have already gone into their bunkers after the first strike.

OOC: Sounds like the best idea, we will rebuild your nation then you can have your revenge later. Because everybody don’t think you nation can have a navy after being hit by thirty-two nukes or a army for the same fact. And I’m not in that everybody. Your navy could have been out in the sea during the army. Your army, or some of them, could have already gone into their bunkers after the first strike.

OOC: I'm also ignoring some of the nukes Blackhelm sent because he ignored attacks made on his country by Mationbuds and Co. So I say 12 nukes fell happy not BC?

The Transylvania, STOP SAYING YOU ARE DYSLEXIC! It is not some mental condition that you can gain pity for. My father is dyslexic and he has typed out documents correctly since he joined the Marine Corps in his teens. I find it sick that you would use his condition to gather pity for yourself and remain lazy in your english writing abilities.
If you cannot type as well as dyslexic people than it makes no diffrence wether or not you are dyslexic. The fact of it is, DYSLEXIC PEOPLE TYPE BETTER THAN YOU!

You telling Chellis to leave? Eeveryone else is ok with him here? You throwing the age cap in his face? You don;t fit that age cap. Pick a standard and go with it!

As for this thing you said to Clandoania Prime,Because everybody don’t think you nation can have a navy after being hit by thirty-two nukes or a army for the same fact. And I’m not in that everybody.

Only Blackhelm said he shouldn't have a navy. Now you are trying to say we all chose a position against Clandonia and you're the only one on his side. YOU ARE A LIAR! I was the first person to defend his navy's existence and I am not the only one!

Clandonia, Ackistan, there has got to be a way to password protect the next thread.

OOC: I'm also ignoring some of the nukes Blackhelm sent because he ignored attacks made on his country by Mationbuds and Co. So I say 12 nukes fell happy not BC?

OOC: True, he did ignore attacks from the ones attacking his own nation. But twelve nukes is still a lot of things to clean up and rebuild.

The Transylvania, STOP SAYING YOU ARE DYSLEXIC! It is not some mental condition that you can gain pity for. My father is dyslexic and he has typed out documents correctly since he joined the Marine Corps in his teens. I find it sick that you would use his condition to gather pity for yourself and remain lazy in your English writing abilities.

OOC: I am Dyslexic, been for a long time. I had to take class in school to help me pass English, math and reading. I’m in college as of now. And if you don’t like the way I write, then you don’t have to like it. It is the way I think and write, get in your head.

My grammar is not bad to me. So you know what, get off you high horse and shut up. All you are doing is making yourself look bad by bad mouthing me.

If you cannot type as well as dyslexic people than it makes no difference whether or not you are dyslexic. The fact of it is, DYSLEXIC PEOPLE TYPE BETTER THAN YOU!

OOC: Calm the fuck down, Guathic! It’s a game. No need to yell.

You telling Chellis to leave? Everyone else is ok with him here? You throwing the age cap in his face? You don’t fit that age cap. Pick a standard and go with it!

OOC: I was throwing that in his face, man. Like he did with me.

Only Blackhelm said he shouldn't have a navy. Now you are trying to say we all chose a position against Clandonia and you're the only one on his side. YOU ARE A LIAR! I was the first person to defend his navy's existence and I am not the only one!

OOC: Do you know what a flame is? If not, you just did one by calling me liar. I said everybody because I don’t know who is against the navy's existence . Now, clam down. Take some long breath of air and clam yourself down.

Clandonia, Ackistan, there has got to be a way to password protect the next thread.

OOC: Nope, no way to password protect a thread. The only way is to have closed thread, one on one. Wit nobody else invited. No Blackhelm, no Dominion, no Chellis, no you. Nobody but Clandonia and Ackistan in it.

OOC: I'm sick of this all, why does every thread I start turn into a bitch fest when I said please don't. The fact is no action will start till Sunday, then it proberly will be a clean thread again as this has will be the OOC one.

The Transylvania, STOP SAYING YOU ARE DYSLEXIC! It is not some mental condition that you can gain pity for. My father is dyslexic and he has typed out documents correctly since he joined the Marine Corps in his teens. I find it sick that you would use his condition to gather pity for yourself and remain lazy in your english writing abilities.
If you cannot type as well as dyslexic people than it makes no diffrence wether or not you are dyslexic. The fact of it is, DYSLEXIC PEOPLE TYPE BETTER THAN YOU!

You telling Chellis to leave? Eeveryone else is ok with him here? You throwing the age cap in his face? You don;t fit that age cap. Pick a standard and go with it!

As for this thing you said to Clandoania Prime,

Only Blackhelm said he shouldn't have a navy. Now you are trying to say we all chose a position against Clandonia and you're the only one on his side. YOU ARE A LIAR! I was the first person to defend his navy's existence and I am not the only one!

Clandonia, Ackistan, there has got to be a way to password protect the next thread.

fucking hell its not same for all people so get over it or shut up about it

OOC: I'm sick of this all, why does every thread I start turn into a bitch fest when I said please don't. The fact is no action will start till Sunday, then it proberly will be a clean thread again as this has will be the OOC one.

OOC: Just restart it and put closed in the title. I think you can handle Ackistan by yourself. That will stop everything. I know it sucks but it will stop everybody jumping in, I hope.

OOC: I will restart it on Sunday and yes it will sure as hell be closed.

OOC: And if anybody butts in, you can get the mods to kick them out.

I will being cleaning up Blackhelm’s mess in your nation. How you want your city to look like? New York style, big skyscrapers? Gotham City style, a medieval/gothic style sky line? Or something else?

OOC: The cities will be subterrain, thats how I'm planning it on the surface, out buildings sort of like solar pannels, greenhouses, entrys to the subterrean worldthrough massive blast doors. Not many people come on the surface unless travelling and thats done from subterrain hangers with airstripes out on the surface. Basically a preaty desolate place, the army and interior forces patrol the roads because of mutant people trying to attack convoys. Air travel is the main transport now because of the weather and road situation.

OOC: The cities will be subterrain, thats how I'm planning it on the surface, out buildings sort of like solar pannels, greenhouses, entrys to the subterrean worldthrough massive blast doors. Not many people come on the surface unless travelling and thats done from subterrain hangers with airstripes out on the surface. Basically a preaty desolate place, the army and interior forces patrol the roads because of mutant people trying to attack convoys. Air travel is the main transport now because of the weather and road situation.

OOC: What about after I clean up? That is what I was talking about. We got one trillion dollars to work with. So, are we going to be the first underground nation?

Mutants, I want to hunt mutants. Sound fun becasue these will not be the mutants I role-play with.

OOC: Yes, with the ice age now we will go fully underground. Yes sure hunt some mutants. The space programe will proberly be one of the few above ground sites, unless I put the Shuttles in some sort of underground pit.

OOC: You did not have to quote every part of my post, I mean that was just a waste of space. *Eye rolls*

Now, be gone because you are not wanted here. See you don’t like being told to leave, right? There is a limit to the age of a nation in this RP, Sep 2006 and you’re don’t fit in with that number. Your eight billion pop does not fit in with the nation in this RP. I don't fit in with that numbers, too. But if my state wants help, I will help him.

About other nations have claimed the nations I do, I know that. NS Earth, Earth One, Earth Two and the list goes on forever and forever. There are people on each of those that have control over what I own. And I have been around for as long as you have, I started in 2002 and only had three nations, counting this one. First one being Wolf Kingdom, which was hacked and lost to me forever.

Only one don’t accept my claim of Germany, don’t know why because I did say that was not going to do an all invasion on him. I’m going to wait to see what he says or what CP say about it before I do anything.

OOC: The difference is, I'm not doing things people aren't ok with. The people here do not accept your claims. This is a different earth than you have your claims on, so they are not valid.

If CP wants your help, fine. Thats great. You don't have to own germany, and all the other places you claim to do that. Stop being so freaking stubborn. They want this RP to go a certain way. If CP does something you don't like, RP it in another thread, coming down on him for it or whatever. Your claims are not wanted here. I have had no problem with mine.

I reported this thread and the last one to the mods. They arn't doing jack squat.

The Transylvania, dyslexia is hereditary, my father has dyslexia... I type better than you do. Put two and two togethor about what I am trying to tell you. How can a person who has really been diagnosed with dyslexia not get that!?

The Transylvania, shut up about having dyslexia. If you cannot apologize and at least say you are improving, you have no right to type. Dyslexic people do not simply say "I type badly and that's just the way it is, live with it." Dyslexic people say "You need to improve, because someone with a reading disability types better than you do!"

I just cannot beleive you are dyslexic. I can't even beleive you are out of high-school.

OOC: What about after I clean up? That is what I was talking about. We got one trillion dollars to work with. So, are we going to be the first underground nation?

Mutants, I want to hunt mutants. Sound fun becasue these will not be the mutants I role-play with.

i be happy to help with 40 million
an build you a coldfusion power plant

I reported this thread and the last one to the mods. They arn't doing jack squat.

The Transylvania, dyslexia is hereditary, my father has dyslexia... I type better than you do. Put two and two togethor about what I am trying to tell you. How can a person who has really been diagnosed with dyslexia not get that!?

The Transylvania, shut up about having dyslexia. If you cannot apologize and at least say you are improving, you have no right to type. Dyslexic people do not simply say "I type badly and that's just the way it is, live with it." Dyslexic people say "You need to improve, because someone with a reading disability types better than you do!"

I just cannot beleive you are dyslexic. I can't even beleive you are out of high-school.

OOC: Going to add this to my thread in the mod forum. But my dad has dyslexia, too. That is where I got my own from. Now, hush up before you get your self into more trouble.

Stop telling me to do things, I don’t need to be one way to look good to you. This is the way God made me, deal it with it.

OOC: Going to add this to my thread in the mod forum. But my dad has dyslexia, too. That is where I got my own from. Now, hush up before you get your self into more trouble.

Stop telling me to do things, I don’t need to be one way to look good to you. This is the way God made me, deal it with it.

i just look at it
pay no time to him

No, God made ME the way you claim he made you. You are just using MY condition as an excuse to not even give other people the courtesy of speaking properly.

Dyslexia does not dead-lock you into writing a certain way. It is just a minor transposition of words and/or syllables that you read. Your poor typing abilities have had nothing to do with transposition. You spell just fine.

However, you throw out entire words and say things that make no sense. You are insulting every dyslexic person by claiming you are dyslexic. You are insulting every dyslexic person by claiming your typing ability cannot improve.

No, God made ME the way you claim he made you. You are just using MY condition as an excuse to not even give other people the courtesy of speaking properly.

Dyslexia does not dead-lock you into writing a certain way. It is just a minor transposition of words and/or syllables that you read. Your poor typing abilities have had nothing to do with transposition. You spell just fine.

However, you throw out entire words and say things that make no sense. You are insulting every dyslexic person by claiming you are dyslexic. You are insulting every dyslexic person by claiming your typing ability cannot improve.

go away
you now just spaming

OOC: Guathic, I’m going to do what HotRodia do me to do, ignore you. If you can’t be nice, then you don’t exist to me. Bye, bye.

The Transylvania, STOP SAYING YOU ARE DYSLEXIC! It is not some mental condition that you can gain pity for. My father is dyslexic and he has typed out documents correctly since he joined the Marine Corps in his teens. I find it sick that you would use his condition to gather pity for yourself and remain lazy in your english writing abilities.
If you cannot type as well as dyslexic people than it makes no diffrence wether or not you are dyslexic. The fact of it is, DYSLEXIC PEOPLE TYPE BETTER THAN YOU!

You telling Chellis to leave? Eeveryone else is ok with him here? You throwing the age cap in his face? You don;t fit that age cap. Pick a standard and go with it!

As for this thing you said to Clandoania Prime,

Only Blackhelm said he shouldn't have a navy. Now you are trying to say we all chose a position against Clandonia and you're the only one on his side. YOU ARE A LIAR! I was the first person to defend his navy's existence and I am not the only one!

Clandonia, Ackistan, there has got to be a way to password protect the next thread.

Chill, Gauthic.

1. Password-protecting the thread is impossible, but as others have mentioned, re-starting the RP and making it [Closed] would work.

2. Making sure that another poster is excluded from an RP or just ignoring them is fine. But calling them a liar is unnecessary and not fine. Knock it off.

I reported this thread and the last one to the mods. They arn't doing jack squat.

Where'd you report it?

The Transylvania, dyslexia is hereditary, my father has dyslexia... I type better than you do. Put two and two togethor about what I am trying to tell you. How can a person who has really been diagnosed with dyslexia not get that!?

The Transylvania, shut up about having dyslexia. If you cannot apologize and at least say you are improving, you have no right to type. Dyslexic people do not simply say "I type badly and that's just the way it is, live with it." Dyslexic people say "You need to improve, because someone with a reading disability types better than you do!"

I just cannot beleive you are dyslexic. I can't even beleive you are out of high-school.

Then maybe you should just not RP with him instead of going on and on about it.

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HotRodia

Fine, Transylvania shall be ignored.

It is clear from your posts, HotRodia, that the moderators do nothing to those who insult and offend people with REAL reading conditions.

I am going to make it obvious. I am dyslexic. Transylvania's claims of being dyslexic INSULT ME. The fact a moderator would defend him is sick.

Fine, Transylvania shall be ignored.

It is clear from your posts, HotRodia, that the moderators do nothing to those who insult and offend people with REAL reading conditions.

I am going to make it obvious. I am dyslexic. Transylvania's claims of being dyslexic INSULT ME. The fact a moderator would defend him is sick.

keep that up they will dam you

OOC: The difference is, I'm not doing things people aren't ok with. The people here do not accept your claims. This is a different earth than you have your claims on, so they are not valid.

OOC: Nobody said this earth was a different earth. I’m treating this as a NS Earth RP, Chellis, which means that anybody can claim what ever they want.

If CP wants your help, fine. That’s great. You don't have to own Germany, and all the other places you claim to do that.

OOC: And yes I do because that if I didn’t own those nations, the Dominion would not exist.

They want this RP to go a certain way. If CP does something you don't like, RP it in another thread, coming down on him for it or whatever.

OOC: It is not CP doing something that I don’t like, he doing everything right in my eyes. Not going to use his WMD until he ask the Lord Marshal to use them.

And CP is restarting this thread and it will closed. An one-on-one fight. Meaning no help on either side.

Fine, Transylvania shall be ignored.

It is clear from your posts, HotRodia, that the moderators do nothing to those who insult and offend people with REAL reading conditions.

I am going to make it obvious. I am dyslexic. Transylvania's claims of being dyslexic INSULT ME. The fact a moderator would defend him is sick.

I'm not defending anyone here. I'm making a point about your behavior, which hardly constitutes a defense of any other poster.

Also, you don't have the right to be not offended. If Trans starts calling you a liar and making other attacks on you character, feel free to report it in the Moderation forum. But if you're just offended by his claim to dyslexia, there's really nothing I can do about that as a Mod, because it doesn't break any rules.

I really, really suggest that you take a break from the computer, do something else, and calm down so you can come back and have fun RPing.

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HotRodia

HotRodia. Thank you. I was certain we were on a "The innocent is the first man to call the cops" policy until that post.

Transylvania claims he is dyslexic, thats fine. I know the truth, and if they do not wish to make themselves understood, I will have to ignore all posts that they type incorrectly.
I am not making fun of them, I am merely asking they be understandable, and make some effort. Their refusal to make an effort on the grounds of having my condition is an insult to me.

All that aside, he can easily be ignored.

Transylvania claims he is dyslexic, that’s fine. I know the truth, and if they do not wish to make themselves understood, I will have to ignore all posts that they type incorrectly.

OOC: I am dyslexic and English is not my friend. What’s up with the they, do you think I have many people in my head? I don’t get you.

I am not making fun of them, I am merely asking they be understandable, and make some effort. Their refusal to make an effort on the grounds of having my condition is an insult to me.

OOC: I’m going to show you what one of my Gholgoth brothers, Gholgoth is a Brotherhood as AMF told me, said about my writing.

I can usually read your posts well enough. ;) But, if you have dyslexia, it's probably best to proofread a few times before submitting. We are, after all, roleplaying through text. If your grammar is terrible, it kind of defeats the purpose.

However, if the guy is being a *****, screw him. From the little of your work that I saw, you were no worse than a thousand others on the forums. Just keep at it. ~ Pantera

He saw how I saw the way you are acting with me, you were being an ass to me. You ordering me to improve my writing, ordering me to stop writing the way I think, calling my grammar bad. All of that is just plain rude and unwanted.

If you are dyslexic, you would know the things that I have been through in school. I learned how to do math, I learned how to read with it. But you know what, I still get numbers turned around and still get grammar messed up. You sound like an English teacher, Guathic.

Until you become a little nicer and don’t tell other people to stop writing the way they write and be all goodly with correct grammar, I’m not going to see you. Like I said, every dyslexic person is not the same. It all goes to how much help the person gets. I didn’t get that much help, Guathic, I had to learn by myself to get around being dyslexic.

OOC: Nobody said this earth was a different earth. I’m treating this as a NS Earth RP, Chellis, which means that anybody can claim what ever they want.



OOC: And yes I do because that if I didn’t own those nations, the Dominion would not exist.



OOC: It is not CP doing something that I don’t like, he doing everything right in my eyes. Not going to use his WMD until he ask the Lord Marshal to use them.

And CP is restarting this thread and it will closed. An one-on-one fight. Meaning no help on either side.

OOC: Again, you treat this in your terms, not CP and Ackistans. Ackistan has problems with you owning those countries in this thread. Your claims are not valid in this thread, because the main players in it either dont care, or dont want you to have them. Its their thread, go by their rules, or go away.

Guess what? The Dominion doesn't exist! This is a forum, with made up countries. For one thread, you can bend a few rules for the sake of roleplaying. You aren't going to explode!

CP doesn't have to ask you to do anything. You can roleplay reprecussions if he doesn't ask for things, but he is free to roleplay however he wants.

OOC: No, this is the major issue. Ackistans is afraid that I’m going to do a full out invasion on his nation. I told him that I was not going to that stuff, I told him OOCly that I would not invade him.

And none of this matters anymore, Chellis, they are restarting the RP again with a closed tag on it. An one-on-one fight between CP and Ackistans. Nobody but those two, no other forces but their armed forces.

OOC: I am leaving this because I feel that it has become something I dont wanna be a part of.

OOC :
This is becomming a wank and flame fest ...

OOC :
This is becomming a wank and flame fest ...

It's already past that stage, actually. But it doesn't really serve any purpose anymore, that's for sure.

Any discussion that folks want to continue from this thread can be continued through e-mail or TG or a chat program, etc.

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HotRodia