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In these tumultous times with Dweladelfias apparent impending war with Sharina (which some believe will lead inevitably to a cataclysmic world war.)

The final transition of power in South Africa and the pan African conferance in Cape town with Aliff Laam Imim seems rather superflous in an international context.

However South Africa is once again re asserting herself on the International stage and has announced today that the Nuclear arsenal created by the first Boer republic as a "neuclear detterent" to try and dissuade nations from Invading South Africa have been retained and a full neuclear programme has been resumed.

There is also mandatory military service for all Union citizens from the ages 20-43 both male and female genders. these citizens receive military training but resume their normal civilian jobs unless they are called to arms. (much like R.L. switzerlands military)


These actions follow the Presidents new Isolationist African policy which advocates a strong and unified Africa free from colonial oppression.




Pan African conferance, Cape Town.


The prevailing atmosphere in the Unions capital was tense. The white presidents tenure was about to end and multi racial elections were to be held in a months time across the whole nation....

South Africa has reverted back to her militiristic isolationist past with predominantly white "liberal" officers in charge of the armed forces. Edward bigo was made the first black general 3 months ago and since then only 4 four more black officers ascended to General rank..

and in the middle of this political Maelstorm was the Pan African conferance with another African power in the very North, Aliff Laam Imim.Contrary to widespread belief The Conferance was to be held in a discreet governmental office on the Tabletop mountain without any public pomp and ceremony.

Emirate delegates were to be escorted by South African Intelligence services via helicopter to the secret location on the mountain.

The government compound was devoid of any austerity. South African delegates calmly awaited the arrival of Emrite delegates to the table. The South African government hopes her Southern continental emergency plan (Including Angola, Zambia and Malawi) will co incide nicely with the Elections.

The South African delegates are as follows:

Hans Shoeberman (chief delegate, representative for the president)

Peiter smith (representing White minority)

Jamal nasseem (representing South Africas muslim minority)

Robert Buju (representing South Africs Black majority)

The Emirate will be attendance. We have sent the following delegation to Cape Town:

Abu Qadir An Nasir Al Malika [head delegate]
Ramses Al Mansur ibn Tahmid
Rashid Abd Al Rahman ibn Rad
Dawud Moussarn
General Abu Yusuf Mustafa Al Aqil [Military representative of the ALM General Staff]

Hans Shoeberman saw that the Emirates delegates arrived on the helipad just outside the compound.

Hans knew south Africas second highest (in terms of population) minority group were either bangladeshi or indentured Pakistani muslims. which now constitute approximatly 9.5% of the total population (including Mozambique and Zimbabwean aswell as Namibian total muslim populations.) and thereforea realized that even giving The emirate the perception that Muslims in the new Boer republic were treated well compared to the previous regimes policy towards Muslims was paramount.

he sat at the delegate table pondering the new pact established by these two African powers.

-Telegram to S. Africa-

In the interests of Peace and stability in the African continent, we will be sending Liason Officer Momboto from the DRC territory. We not only wish for him to attend the conference, but to serve as our permenant represenitive in your nation.

-Regent Windsor

we welcome any vineyardian official to attend. we normally advocate resistance movements in colonial territories in Africa but seeing has Southern africa has a somewhat influential vineyardian past we shall overlook this matter.


The prime objectives of the conferance:

to discuss territorial border arrangements.

to discuss the "american" situation and deliberate whether African nations should get involved.

A possible free trade zone in Africa.

The Emirate would like to offer a commencement to the discussions.

Notably on mind, the Emirate has been interested in a Pan-African railline, that spans the continent from Al-Qahirah to Cape Town. There have been many attempts, but they have nearly all have failed, and those that exist are too crude. With fewer constraints and more economic strength available, we believe that such an operation could continue once again. With the development of this rail network, northern and southern Africa could become more easily connected - other than by airplanes - and industry and commerce can be better proliferated among our states.

We will be willing to discuss any present claims and discussions that will be necessary in the course of these discussions, and furthermore, any issues regarding the conflict in America, as it is a grave crisis and likely to lead to the deaths of many innocents.

Despite the fact that the Empire's capital and roots are in Europe, the DRC has been revitilized and stregthened by the Empire, with its infastructure, econemy, and cities being rebuilt and refit, a monumental effort still in the works. We bring equality to all nationstates that we annex, and we do not treat the DRC as a colony.

At any rate, we agree with ALM's trans-african railway proposal. Not only will this allow us to increace trade, but it will also help move troops to either extremity of Africa, whould one of our nations be under attack. On this note, we wish to establish a sort of mutual aid pact, allowing our nations to assist each other in case of a (defencive) war. This will not only protect the security and safty of the African Continent, but will strengthen ties between our nations.

The next issue we wish to bring up are teritorial borders. The Vineyardian Empire used to encompass Botswana, Zimbabwe, Zambia, and Angola. These served as the Empires source of food, coffee, clothing, gold, diamonds, and minerals. Since their loss, the Empire is hard-pressed to mainatin domestic production of food, and it cannot meet domestic demand for clothing, forcing us to import clothing materials. As such, the Empire has ordered the 4th battlegroup to re-absorb Angola, and the 4th African battlegroup will be crossing into Angola any time now, to combat renegade Vineyardian Forces.

OCC: I know my main nations are in Europe, but there are some people in my Kingdom from Africa. They're sitting not far off from the South African Coast and wondering why they weren't invited to the nice party? :(

See I care about Africans too, look what I've done for Madagascar. I've reduced unemployment, increase the average wage of the workers, brought improved education and health care to the island. I've also improved the transportation system. Allow additional food supplies to be grown without having to cause environment damage.

So, in essence in what I am saying is. WHO FORGET TO SEND ME MY INVITATION!

OCC: I think this conference was for ALM and South Africa from the beginning. If I'm wrong, they have forgot to invite me to (and I'm definitely in Africa)...

OCC: I know my main nations are in Africa, but there are some people in my Kingdom from Africa. They're sitting not far off from the South African Coast and wondering why they weren't invited to the nice party? :(

See I care about Africans too, look what I've done for Madagascar. I've reduced unemployment, increase the average wage of the workers, brought improved education and health care to the island. I've also improved the transportation system. Allow additional food supplies to be grown without having to cause environment damage.

So, in essence in what I am saying is. WHO FORGET TO SEND ME MY INVITATION!

(ooc Whoops consider that rectified come to cape town and bring some beer!)

OCC: I think this conference was for ALM and South Africa from the beginning. If I'm wrong, they have forgot to invite me to (and I'm definitely in Africa)...

we apologise to the Kingdom of Kopperburgs and United Netherlands and have allocated seating for your delegates at the conferance in cape town.

Despite the fact that the Empire's capital and roots are in Europe, the DRC has been revitilized and stregthened by the Empire, with its infastructure, econemy, and cities being rebuilt and refit, a monumental effort still in the works. We bring equality to all nationstates that we annex, and we do not treat the DRC as a colony.

At any rate, we agree with ALM's trans-african railway proposal. Not only will this allow us to increace trade, but it will also help move troops to either extremity of Africa, whould one of our nations be under attack. On this note, we wish to establish a sort of mutual aid pact, allowing our nations to assist each other in case of a (defencive) war. This will not only protect the security and safty of the African Continent, but will strengthen ties between our nations.

The next issue we wish to bring up are teritorial borders. The Vineyardian Empire used to encompass Botswana, Zimbabwe, Zambia, and Angola. These served as the Empires source of food, coffee, clothing, gold, diamonds, and minerals. Since their loss, the Empire is hard-pressed to mainatin domestic production of food, and it cannot meet domestic demand for clothing, forcing us to import clothing materials. As such, the Empire has ordered the 4th battlegroup to re-absorb Angola, and the 4th African battlegroup will be crossing into Angola any time now, to combat renegade Vineyardian Forces.

ah ok.... um my forces are allready in the Angola and Zambia. perhaps we can divide the two countrys into half or reach some other compromise. I.e. free trade.

we will re imburse the Vineyardian government by any means necessary if the situation arises.

what does your government suggest vineyard?

Members present:

The Boer republic

The Emirate of Alif laam miim

The kingdom Kopperburgs

The Empire of Vineyard

The United netherlands.


Main issues in discussion: Territorial borders/compromises

Mutual continental defense pact

The escalating American "situation"

Pan African railway network and a tariff free
trade agreement.

The conferance has now convened:

The Boer republic suggests the territorial limits for South African jurisdiction and therefore influence (under the assumption no body R.Ps claims these territories before assimilation) should end at Nairobi.

we will expand no further north than Nairobi city and would be more than willing to reach a compromise with the Emirate over the division of Kenya if the assimilation of that nation arises between our nations.

We are not interested in aquiring Uganda or the Congo (the other one, lol:p )
or Gabon. we suggest these areas fall under Vineyards influence.

The Boer republic will not be expanding into western mainland Africa.

we anticipate the responses from the other participating member states of the Pan african conferance.

-Hans Shoeberman-

Head delegate, The Union of South Africa (2nd Boer republic)

The Emirate does not currently maintain any particular interests in acquiring new territory at the moment. However, once we have consolidated our position in Asherton and the rogue states [i.e. Chad and CAR], we will consider extending our protectorship over the states in Kenya and Uganda, and more importantly, the island of Zanzibar. These options will remain open to discussion within the Emirate, as we are not seeking to capitalize our advances to advance our own interests in the region.

As such, we are surprised at the recent arrival of numerous other entities, most of which are non-African entities. We hope that your presence will not conflict with the interests of managing this pan-African league, and in fact will be cooperative with pan-African interests.

We will wait to discuss the emerging American "situation" - that is, when more opinions have been expressed, mostly on its causation and its subsequent resolution.

As has already been established, a preliminary pan-African pact has already been signed into effect between the Emirate and the Boer Republik, in the interest to preserve peace and stability in Africa.

We maintain ouur vehement support for our proposition to construct and pan-African railway.

OCC: I'm going to say Madagascar and not Iberian Netherlands because this is for most part their concern and not my main governments concern. I want you all to keep that in mind. Each country in the Kingdom while though part of the kingdom is a free and independent country. They raise and maintain their own armies, pass their own laws and manage their own affairs. They even to a degree conduct their own foreign policy as you can clearly see. So when you refer to my delegation please refer to it as the Madagascaran delegation or the Malagasy delegation. As President Ravalomanana himself has stated "he welcomes relations with all countries interested in helping Madagascar to develop."

IC: The Republic of Madagascar will fully support the proposed plan for the Pan-African railway. In fact would like to see that Railway extended across the Mozambique Channel to connect Madagascar with the mainland of Africa. Our allies the United Netherlands and Iberian Netherlands has offered as part of the rebuilding contract for our country to donate funds to help pay for the construction of said railway. If Britain and France can get past their differences and build the Channel tunnel, surely we Africans can do the same.

As to your order points my dear friends, we are not sure how a defense pact will work in relation to our other agreements but it is something worth looking into.

As for the American Situation, our government has made its policy very clear. (Assume the government of Madagascar made it clear already). Our government has firmly declared its neutrality in any conflict that will erupt in the Americans. American and European affairs do not concern us, only those of our fellow African brothers and sisters do.

Thank you for your time and I now turn over my time.

OCC: I'm going to say Madagascar and not Iberian Netherlands because this is for most part their concern and not my main governments concern. I want you all to keep that in mind. Each country in the Kingdom while though part of the kingdom is a free and independent country. They raise and maintain their own armies, pass their own laws and manage their own affairs. They even to a degree conduct their own foreign policy as you can clearly see. So when you refer to my delegation please refer to it as the Madagascaran delegation or the Malagasy delegation. As President Ravalomanana himself has stated "he welcomes relations with all countries interested in helping Madagascar to develop."

IC: The Republic of Madagascar will fully support the proposed plan for the Pan-African railway. In fact would like to see that Railway extended across the Mozambique Channel to connect Madagascar with the mainland of Africa. Our allies the United Netherlands and Iberian Netherlands has offered as part of the rebuilding contract for our country to donate funds to help pay for the construction of said railway. If Britain and France can get past their differences and build the Channel tunnel, surely we Africans can do the same.

As to your order points my dear friends, we are not sure how a defense pact will work in relation to our other agreements but it is something worth looking into.

As for the American Situation, our government has made its policy very clear. (Assume the government of Madagascar made it clear already). Our government has firmly declared its neutrality in any conflict that will erupt in the Americans. American and European affairs do not concern us, only those of our fellow African brothers and sisters do.

Thank you for your time and I now turn over my time.


(oocThat will be a pretty big railway across the mozambique channel.... :p )

The Pan African railway has been approved by the New government in Cape town who hopes to establish the railway line deep into Angola to create a good infrastructure to Angolas vast oil reserves. The pan african railway wil be primarily a collaboration by both Alif laam miim and the Boer republic. any offers to help with this project will be taken into consideration.

(oocThat will be a pretty big railway across the mozambique channel.... :p )

The Pan African railway has been approved by the New government in Cape town who hopes to establish the railway line deep into Angola to create a good infrastructure to Angolas vast oil reserves. The pan african railway wil be primarily a collaboration by both Alif laam miim and the Boer republic. any offers to help with this project will be taken into consideration.

OCC: Yeah, but a President can dream. At the narrowest point its still 460 kilometers to the African mainland. Besides the Channel is not shall at all either. It goes to a depth of more then 3,292 meters or 2.045 milies below sea level. :(. Oh well, a President can dream. I guess I get to maintain my own little party Island. Though you guys can come visit.

ah ok.... um my forces are allready in the Angola and Zambia. perhaps we can divide the two countrys into half or reach some other compromise. I.e. free trade.

we will re imburse the Vineyardian government by any means necessary if the situation arises.

what does your government suggest vineyard?

ooc: I had no idea you were in Angola! I would like to know where your troops are, so i dont accidentially over-extend my invasion. Can you link the post you made about the invasion?

Anyhow, in regards to 'free trade': the Empire, if you havnt caught on, abhores trade and severly restricts it. We try to meet everything domestically, using the Surplus for storage, the military, or for limited export trade.

We are currently working out schemes for the proposed route. Since this is mostly a bilateral effort between the Emirate and the Boer Republik, the rail will link mostly our two states. As such, we are willing to invite others to cooperate, although it will be quite unnecessary.

We have been notified that it interests the Boer Republik if we could split Kenya at Nairobi. We would be willing to see what kind of compromise can be achieved, although it will require some time. Furthermore, if we can agree formally on a meeting point for our two states, it would greatly improve our coordination for suitable railway paths to carve. As such, we could arrange Nairobi to be either jointly administered, divided, or declared neutral city [like the proposition for Jerusalem that ultimately failed...] with joint protection by both the Emirate and the Republik. We are still discussing this but until we are absolutely certain, we will hold on those thoughts.

The Boer republic finds this proposal by the Emirate to be most acceptable. for you see we have massive disparities in GDP between ethnicities. In particular the Black community which constitutes over 80% of our population is by far the worsed off.

We believe the opening up of a pan african railway will alleviate this problem to some degree by creating new job opportunities building this railway. and by creating a relaible infrastrucure for development of Industry in areas of particular poverty. (I.e. Reformed Lusaka,)


we are currently in the process of creating the first initial steps for this project. we are upgrading the old rail link from Cape Town to Harare as we speak.

due to the diligent efforts by our prevalent armed forces the possibility of establishing a rail link into the Angola is out of the question for the time being.

however we can almost certainly accomodate development of a route through Zamibia now that we have consolidated our hold on that country.

we await to hear the schematics for the development of the railway network from the Emirates territory.

any contribution from nations participating in the conferance will be duley considered.

-Hans Shoeberman-

head delegate, Union of South Africa (2nd Boer republic)


(ooc Vineyard check my invasion thread. its on the map claims thread, Im about to lay siege to Luanda)

we propose that that Nairobi be split into two individual spheres of Influence was this city has sigificant importance for the Rail network. It can be a transitional hub for Emirate and Union trade.

we have proposed a defined border. the Emirate can (purely hypothetical at this moment) have the Majority of Kenya including the port of Mombasa. we are Interested in Southern Kenya with half of Nairobi city.

we stongly reccomend Vineyard to project her Influence into the Congo (ooc the other one) and Gabon (which has a vast amount of petroleum deposits) these countries can be very conducive to your Empire policy of self suffiency.

-Hans Shoeberman-

Head delegate, Union of South Africa (2nd Boer republic)

we propose that that Nairobi be split into two individual spheres of Influence was this city has sigificant importance for the Rail network. It can be a transitional hub for Emirate and Union trade.

we have proposed a defined border. the Emirate can (purely hypothetical at this moment) have the Majority of Kenya including the port of Mombasa. we are Interested in Southern Kenya with half of Nairobi city.

we stongly reccomend Vineyard to project her Influence into the Congo (ooc the other one) and Gabon (which has a vast amount of petroleum deposits) these countries can be very conducive to your Empire policy of self suffiency.

-Hans Shoeberman-

Head delegate, Union of South Africa (2nd Boer republic)

We agree to these conventions, and when the time proves ready to implement them, we will be certain to reflect upon these suggestions. The Emirate Ministry of Domestic Affairs has been notified and has prepared its contingencies for such action.

In other news, we must proud to inform the conference that our efforts in Chad and CAR are proceeding very nicely. We have captured all renegade elements in CAR, and our forces are currently battling Chadian renegades in the northern provinces. Once the fight has subsided and our authorities can begin consolidate the political authority, we will likely create a political union of the Central African Protectorate - which will remain a separate political entity that remains the responsibility of the Emirate's domestic policies. We will keep the conference informed about our progress therein.

we propose that that Nairobi be split into two individual spheres of Influence was this city has sigificant importance for the Rail network. It can be a transitional hub for Emirate and Union trade.

we have proposed a defined border. the Emirate can (purely hypothetical at this moment) have the Majority of Kenya including the port of Mombasa. we are Interested in Southern Kenya with half of Nairobi city.

we stongly reccomend Vineyard to project her Influence into the Congo (ooc the other one) and Gabon (which has a vast amount of petroleum deposits) these countries can be very conducive to your Empire policy of self suffiency.

-Hans Shoeberman-

Head delegate, Union of South Africa (2nd Boer republic)

-Telegram from the Imperial Palace-

Our troops shall fall back immediately. We had no idea that such an invasion was on-going, you have our sincerest apologies. We would, however, like to offer you assistance, as a measure of Friendship between our soon-to-be neignboring nations. let us know, we can have a few regiments of regulars preped to assist within the day.

At any rate, our forces and efforts will be directed east, towards Tanzania, where forces in the region had retreated from the Democratic Republic of the Congo during our takeover of the DRC. Pacification will occur within the month, with the invasions of Rwanda an Burundi.

-Regent Windsor

South Africa warmly applauds Vineyards decision on our military campaign in the Angola. there has become a situation with two of the participating states relating to the procurement of territory in gabon and the congo...

as for the Gabon situation:

South Africa accepts that the United netherlands is a relatively stable (politically) and reasonable albeit ambitious nation. we are concerned however by the sudden aquisition of terrirory in both Vineyards and Kopperburgs spheres of influence.

we do not want an American style debacle on our doorstep. we have therefore decided to try and mediate the situation at the conferance. we wish Iberian Netherlands would outline her motives for Invading the Gabon and equatorial guinea.

we also wonder if Kopperburgs "intervention" is a pretext for counter invasion.

South Africa warmly applauds Vineyards decision on our military campaign in the Angola. there has become a situation with two of the participating states relating to the procurement of territory in gabon and the congo...

as for the Gabon situation:

South Africa accepts that the United netherlands is a relatively stable (politically) and reasonable albeit ambitious nation. we are concerned however by the sudden aquisition of terrirory in both Vineyards and Kopperburgs spheres of influence.

we do not want an American style debacle on our doorstep. we have therefore decided to try and mediate the situation at the conferance. we wish Iberian Netherlands would outline her motives for Invading the Gabon and equatorial guinea.

we also wonder if Kopperburgs "intervention" is a pretext for counter invasion.

OCC: This remember is the President of Madagascar and not the Iberian Netherlands or the United Netherlands, neither of them have a representative at this conference.

IC: I have received word from my allies in Europe (OCC: My European countries), that the reason for the unprovoked invasion of the two countries was to prevent the mass flood of refuges coming from Zaire and Angola. They have also stated that, they plan to install a more stable democratic in both countries. They did the same, for us so we have every reason to believe their intentions are honest. Though, we were at first mad at our sovereign country being invaded, in time the funds made available to my people have increased our prosperity. Farm output is more then double, a unlimited supply of electricity is provided by the Nuclear Reactor the Netherlands government help us build. We have new markets for our trade goods.

The Netherlands government has asked for our helping and we have agreed to send a single Regiment of troops to assist. As my government has stated, the affairs of Africa are the only concern of my government. We are as displeased as you our in not be informed of the intentions of the Netherlands Government. We have made our objections noted to our allies. If, you wish for my government to pass on any messages to our allies not through official channels my government would be glad to do so.

South Africa accepts that the United Netherlands is a relatively stable (politically) and reasonable albeit ambitious nation. we are concerned however by the sudden acquisition of territory in both Vineyards and Kopperburgs spheres of influence.- Both my allies and my government were also highly concerned, as for the Congo situation. My government would fellow better if your influence was in Congo and not Kopperburgs or Vineyards. Both governments who seem bent on war and not peace. The Netherlands Government has informed me it feels the same way, hence the invasion to keep both parties out of a vital area.

we also wonder if Kopperburgs "intervention" is a pretext for counter invasion- We have intelligence that states it is. This our government will not allow. To be replaced by one corrupt regime for another, is not far for the people nor will it lead to more stability in Africa.

-Telegram from the Imperial Palace-

Our troops shall fall back immediately. We had no idea that such an invasion was on-going, you have our sincerest apologies. We would, however, like to offer you assistance, as a measure of Friendship between our soon-to-be neignboring nations. let us know, we can have a few regiments of regulars preped to assist within the day.

At any rate, our forces and efforts will be directed east, towards Tanzania, where forces in the region had retreated from the Democratic Republic of the Congo during our takeover of the DRC. Pacification will occur within the month, with the invasions of Rwanda an Burundi.

-Regent Windsor

[ooc: dammit, I hate imperialism...]

The Emirate would like to offer its assistance to the future campaigns in Rwanda and Burundi, as the Emirate seeks to establish a protectorate in Uganda and Kenya [with the addendums by the Boer Republik].

The Emirate would also like to invite the Boer Republik to a private conference [ooc: the one originally intended...] in Al Qahirah, as we can better discuss our pretensions in private. We were unaware that Africa was going to become such a hot spot. [ooc: I will post up a new thread, or if you'd prefer, we can continue in this thread and just do SIC calls...]

In regards to the recent expansions in Gabon and Guinea, we are not pleased at the recent advances of a European state, with no obviously vested interest other than to expand its wealth of influence into a region in which it has none. We suggest that a note of urgency be sent to their government to request the cessation of hostilities. We would also inquire what reason they have to disturb the peaceful serenity of these people. If the government in Madagascar would be kind enough to render these questions, we would be most appreciative, as it would be a very quick and efficent process. With more depth to this development, we can decide on the best course of action for the Pan-African Conference.

Of course, our best suggestion is to leave aside the territory as a collective and communal protectorate of the PAC [Pan-African Conference], as it seems that if any of its neighbors would intervene, there would be an unfavorable conclusion to any of the states. A protectorate would save the interests of the region, and furthermore avoid any conflicts of other interests. Such a protectorate would be the responsibility of the PAC community, although the people in the protectorate would be free to pursue their own domestic policies.
Would this be a favorable conclusion to all of the states present in the PAC?

On a more optimistic note, the Emirate wishes to begin a humanitarian organization for the purpose of alleviating the plight of those who are less fortunate and suffering the pains of conflict and oppression. Our own operations in the Asherton territory, to alleviate the agony of those who endured genocidal tactics at the hands of Asherton forces, and likely at the will of the Sistani Shah, have been proving to be very successful in bringing people back to their feet and living comfortably. Our Minister of Charity and Hajj will be glad to render Emirate assistance in this prospective operation.

We have come to the conclusion that the "de Facto" Netherlands puppet state of Madagascars ambitions on our magnificent continent has become untenable. And we have therefore Issued a formal warning to the Government of the Iberian netherlands to Cease their persistant interventions in African internal affairs or bear the consequences of such actions.

we therefore support the proposal Gabon and equatorial guinea become joint protectoraes of the African Pact and the Kingdom of Kopperburgs.

All Iberian delegates will now be escorted out of the conferance by armed guard and will be transferred unharmed to the "Republic" of Madagascar.

on a lighter note we Invite kopperburgs to join our little African endevour seeing has most of his Influence can actually be derived from the continent as much as Isreal. therefore the nation meets the criteria`for the pact..

we await a reply from the remaining nations at the conferance...

we will re allocate the 2nd conferance to Emirate territory at an unspecified date.

The situation has groen dire indeed.

The Nations of United Neatherlands have not only recently subdues the noble people of Spain, but have also dispatched troops to the Americas to consolidate and repress national sovrignties after being over-run by the forces of DP. We are not only concerned for the two African States being invaded by this imperialist power, but we are also concerned for the stability of all of Africa, including The Vineyardian Empire. Imperial Troops are currently preparing for the invasion of Rwanda and Burundi, however, due to recent events, we are siphoning off an entire Infantry Division in possible preperation for an operation to secure and protect elements of both states, should our ally(s) decide to follow suit.

As to a Trans-african railway, we propose that it be not one line, but severla adjacent rails, to better transportation all around, and allow peoples and amterials to be shipped in both directions simultaneously. Although we agree that the Railway should be protected, we are not for diverting national territory to an international PAC protected strip of land for the safe-guarding of the railway. The way we see it, individual governments should endevour to protect it individually, as we are trying to forge African Cooperation, meaning that if any fued should erupt, and part of the railway be subsequently shut down, it would only apply pressure to the nations of the Continent to resolve the crisis peacefully.

We implore the nations present here to try to work out peaceful ends to the situation with the Iberian invasion. A war in Africa would not benefit anyone, and its consequences would indeed be worldwide.
[ooc: not to mention absolutely confusing...]

We implore the nations present here to try to work out peaceful ends to the situation with the Iberian invasion. A war in Africa would not benefit anyone, and its consequences would indeed be worldwide.
[ooc: not to mention absolutely confusing...]

OCC: To late, South Africa (Persecution and Hatred) along with his buddy Vineyard just declared war on me. Sorry, I tried to warn them- let the confusion begin!

I'll also post my last message here since I've been kick out, but trust me I'm not going to be a push over and anyone who goes to war with me will regret it.

I have my offical protest reply of being kicked out for no reason the next time I'm up.

Edited for additional content and some rewording.

[ooc: methinks I 'm going to hate this, especially, since I haven't finished detailing all of the upgrades that I've been dealing with... If I weren't stuck in so many different alliances, I'd be at peace now...]

[ooc: methinks I 'm going to hate this, especially, since I haven't finished detailing all of the upgrades that I've been dealing with... If I weren't stuck in so many different alliances, I'd be at peace now...]

But, aren't they a joy! :rolleyes:

Well, I was at peace into South Africa for some strange reason sent me a declaration of war followed by Vineyard. I guess no one wants peace.

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We have come to the conclusion that the "de Facto" Netherlands puppet state of Madagascars ambitions on our magnificent continent has become untenable. And we have therefore Issued a formal warning to the Government of the Iberian netherlands to Cease their persistant interventions in African internal affairs or bear the consequences of such actions.

we therefore support the proposal Gabon and equatorial guinea become joint protectoraes of the African Pact and the Kingdom of Kopperburgs.

All Iberian delegates will now be escorted out of the conferance by armed guard and will be transferred unharmed to the "Republic" of Madagascar.

on a lighter note we Invite kopperburgs to join our little African endevour seeing has most of his Influence can actually be derived from the continent as much as Isreal. therefore the nation meets the criteria`for the pact..

we await a reply from the remaining nations at the conferance...

we will re allocate the 2nd conferance to Emirate territory at an unspecified date

As President Ravalomanana was being escorted out of the building he suddenly and without warning knocked one of the guard's to the ground, and declared "I AM NO PUPPET OF ANY GOVERNMENT, INCLUDING YOURS AND AS A HEAD OF STATE I WILL NOT BE TREATED THIS WAY! By the power of Christ, you'll come to regret your march towards war. You all talk of peace and hold this conference, but I can see you all are only interested in your own petty greed. It saddens me as a christen that you all are unable to see past your differences and embraced the lord into your life. Furthermore, I can find my own way out. At that, Ravalomanana stormed out the building escorted by his security, boarded his presidential aircraft and headed for home. Never in his life had he been so insulted and treated as a little child. In, time Rabalomanana would forgive those who had brought him harm, but right now only anger consumed him and his people.

OCC: OK, that was my last post here since I got kicked out of the conference. That was a bad move on your part, but hey you want to piss off half the world be my guest.

The Emirate Delegation is somewhat shocked at this sudden verbal barrage, and hopes that the President of the Madagascar Republic show better restraint at his next showing. On a second note, the Emirate is pleased to see that the Iberian Netherlands is willing to compromise a solution. As such, the Emirate would very much like to institute a PAC protectorate in the conflicted region, so as to offer no conflict of interests. Additionally, we suggest that PAC decisively take up the role in protecting the interests of Africa and preventing non-African states from establishing their own authority over the region. If this is agreeable, then we shall make up a draft alliance [haha...] to pursue this interest. Otherwise, PAC shall remain as it stands - a conference of sorts...

On a second note, we feel that Madagascar is not as much a puppet of Iberian Netherlands, but more so as a independent subsidiary of the Kingdom, as its interests are indelibly linked to African interests, we should offer them an audience at the very least, as we stand to make no ground if we reject them as an African state.

On a third note, we will be sending representatives from the newly established Central African Protectorate. They will be joining the Emirate delegation within the week, to protect their own interests [ooc: which happen to coincide with Emirate interests - tada! - but there's no vote, so they won't be any more decisive...] in this body. We hope that the PAC will accept them as equal delegates.

The South African government unilaterally agrees to this African alliance. and we propose to be a joint founding member with the Emirate of Aiff Laam Imiim. We also propose some hypothetical stipulations for this alliance. they are as follows:

1. Applying member states must alteast have some predominant influence deriving from Africa if they are not a African based state. (there may be exceptions for this like affliate independent states of a European, Asian, or American nation, membership will then be decided on a case by case basis)

2. The capital of the alliance will rotate between the African based member states capitals on a 4 earth V year basis.

3. all applying member states must agree to a non proliferation agreement relating to sending Armaments and other potentially hazardous equipment (whether they be primary or auxillary) to dangerous and Rogue African nations or terrorist factions within individual member states countries.

4. A joint charter defining territorial limits on the continent for "central government" rule. the exceptions to this charter being nations with free association (or affiliation ) with that specific African nation. That nation however must have a large degree of self autonomy and must be fully sovergn in deciding their own destiny.

5. In the (hopefully unlikely) event of a conflict that would be severly detrimental to our way of life. all participating nations must at the very least deliberate whether or not to help that member state in question militarily at a specific conferance in the Alliances capital. (Moral support to that Afflicted member state is mandatory.) In addition to this we would like to propose a Continental defense pact that would involve mutual defense of any African territory being invaded by a foreign power (without any "proper" justification)

6. Any territory in Africa won in a conflict (with another player) shall be a designated Protectorate of the Pact untill such time as a proper arrangement with the victorious member state/s can be discussed .

We would very much welcome any contributions to our proposal for this alliance......

Telegram to the Pan African Conference
From The Kingdom of Kopparbergs

We just want to inform you that we're not interested in a new African Alliance. We will not apply for membership in the alliance.

With the exception of the Red Sea Alliance, we've never been a member of a military alliance, and we want to keep it that way. The Red Sea Alliance is an alliance we were forced into by the evil nation of Sistan. Without the threat from Sistan we would never have joined the RSA.

King Carl Gustaf XXI
Kingdom of Kopparbergs

The South African government unilaterally agrees to this African alliance. and we propose to be a joint founding member with the Emirate of Aiff Laam Imiim. We also propose some hypothetical stipulations for this alliance. they are as follows:

1. Applying member states must alteast have some predominant influence deriving from Africa if they are not a African based state. (there may be exceptions for this like affliate independent states of a European, Asian, or American nation, membership will then be decided on a case by case basis)

2. The capital of the alliance will rotate between the African based member states capitals on a 4 earth V year basis.

3. all applying member states must agree to a non proliferation agreement relating to sending Armaments and other potentially hazardous equipment (whether they be primary or auxillary) to dangerous and Rogue African nations or terrorist factions within individual member states countries.

4. A joint charter defining territorial limits on the continent for "central government" rule. the exceptions to this charter being nations with free association (or affiliation ) with that specific African nation. That nation however must have a large degree of self autonomy and must be fully sovergn in deciding their own destiny.

5. In the (hopefully unlikely) event of a conflict that would be severly detrimental to our way of life. all participating nations must at the very least deliberate whether or not to help that member state in question militarily at a specific conferance in the Alliances capital. (Moral support to that Afflicted member state is mandatory.) In addition to this we would like to propose a Continental defense pact that would involve mutual defense of any African territory being invaded by a foreign power (without any "proper" justification)

6. Any territory in Africa won in a conflict (with another player) shall be a designated Protectorate of the Pact untill such time as a proper arrangement with the victorious member state/s can be discussed .

We would very much welcome any contributions to our proposal for this alliance......

The Emirate was not considering making a large alliance organization, as we are well aware of the Boer Republik's current affairs with FOAM, and while we have no wishes to do ill-will to that organization, creating another international alliance could create conflicts of interests between different organizations. Perhaps when we said alliance, we should have made it a softer term, something more like a coalition of forces that seek to maintain the peace and order of the African continent. [ooc: like the RL AU or EU...].

This is our intention and our only desire. Anything else will either be too weak to function or too rigid to preserve other national interests. [Imagine: the Pan-African Coalition :D]. Furthermore, the formation of an African alliance would probably work against our intentions, as we are aware of the liabilities that alliances create in the world.

Additionally, we will need to discuss the current situation and Gabon and Equiutorial Guinea, to decide whether or not a PAC-protectorate would be necessary to preserve order in that region, as the Iberian presence would hopefully not have left any significant disarray. If needed, the Emirate will send a delegation to determine the atmostphere in those territories and decide whether or not they require PAC-intervention.

Telegram to the Pan African Conference
From The Kingdom of Kopparbergs

We just want to inform you that we're not interested in a new African Alliance. We will not apply for membership in the alliance.

With the exception of the Red Sea Alliance, we've never been a member of a military alliance, and we want to keep it that way. The Red Sea Alliance is an alliance we were forced into by the evil nation of Sistan. Without the threat from Sistan we would never have joined the RSA.

King Carl Gustaf XXI
Kingdom of Kopparbergs

(gets up and sulks for 10 minutes bemoaning why nobody wants to join my club:D )

IC we can respect your decision for strict neutrality as various other alliances have been created under dubious circumstances and still operate under dubious circumstances.

we hope we can have more successful diplomatic transactions in the future with your esteemed nation.

-Foreign ministry-

Union of South Africa.


The Emirate was not considering making a large alliance organization, as we are well aware of the Boer Republik's current affairs with FOAM, and while we have no wishes to do ill-will to that organization, creating another international alliance could create conflicts of interests between different organizations. Perhaps when we said alliance, we should have made it a softer term, something more like a coalition of forces that seek to maintain the peace and order of the African continent. [ooc: like the RL AU or EU...].

This is our intention and our only desire. Anything else will either be too weak to function or too rigid to preserve other national interests. [Imagine: the Pan-African Coalition :D]. Furthermore, the formation of an African alliance would probably work against our intentions, as we are aware of the liabilities that alliances create in the world.

Additionally, we will need to discuss the current situation and Gabon and Equiutorial Guinea, to decide whether or not a PAC-protectorate would be necessary to preserve order in that region, as the Iberian presence would hopefully not have left any significant disarray. If needed, the Emirate will send a delegation to determine the atmostphere in those territories and decide whether or not they require PAC-intervention.

ooc. yeah their are a few different connotations for "Alliance" we will still be interested in a bilateral coalition if that what interests you.

The Emirate would like to note the foundation of a particularly eye-catching state in the former states of Mali and Mauritania, under the title Candistan.


Furthermore, we wish to know if the formation of a coalition to maintain peace and stability in Africa is agreeable to the people in the Conference. In any case, the Emirate views favorably upon this, and we hope that others may agree with us. As such, we would encourage the government of the Iberian Netherlands or of their Republic in Madagascar join in this endeavor, as complete peace in Africa is not possible if it is exclusive to only parts of it.

In addition, we wish to note the formation of a provisional East African Protectorate government, to be based in Addis Ababa, once order can be instituted following the complete pacification of Asherton [we still have Mogadishu left...]. Furthermore, we wish to inquire on the status of our members and the reflections of the current position in Africa.

There is also reason to believe that the government in Guinea has commenced hostilities with Senegal. There have been comments by EATO, demanding the cessation of actions. As the PAC, we ought to do something to preserve our own authority over the affairs of the African continent.

--TELEGRAM TO THE FREE BOER REPUBLIK--
The Candistani West African Alliance wishes to join this union. We wish for peace in Africa. Our annexation of Burkina Faso was merely a redemption attack to stabilise the region from its terrorist supporting government. If you accept this message, we will send three delagates, one from each of our main regions, to help set up the charter along with the other nations. We hope we may be accepted.
Mr. Taled Okojanga, Minister of Foriegn Affairs

--TELEGRAM TO THE FREE BOER REPUBLIK--
The Candistani West African Alliance wishes to join this union. We are alarmed that our overzealous neighbors, the Guineans, may launch an attack on us.

ooc:what the heck are you talking about?

IC: We would like to join this alliance in order to perserve our nation against larger war-mongering countries. Thank you.

Lasanta Conte.

OOC: sorry that was before the embassy thing and diplomatic relations.

The Boer Republic upon much deliberation hearby ushers in the Candistani West African alliance and the The Republic of Gunea into the Pact.

upon acesnion into this pact we would like to mediate the escalating situation between your two nations as surely a conflict in a pact would be untenable.

we also announce that the Senegal will become a protectorate of the pact until a compromise or deal can be resolved or untill we defeat our age old foes the Iberian Netherlands and Dweladelfia prime in bloody combat.

we propose a joint Pact army ( Aliff being exempted as the boer republic respects her stoic diplomatic methods in an otherwise seemingly random and violent world.)

welcome to the pact.

The Boer Republic upon much deliberation hearby ushers in the Candistani West African alliance and the The Republic of Gunea into the Pact.

upon acesnion into this pact we would like to mediate the escalating situation between your two nations as surely a conflict in a pact would be untenable.

we also announce that the Senegal will become a protectorate of the pact until a compromise or deal can be resolved or untill we defeat our age old foes the Iberian Netherlands and Dweladelfia prime in bloody combat.

we propose a joint Pact army ( Aliff being exempted as the boer republic respects her stoic diplomatic methods in an otherwise seemingly random and violent world.)

welcome to the pact.

Just a quick point, it is highly unlikely Senegal would join the pact. "South Africa will not stand for the Hypocracy and pretension that constitutes the entire nation of Dweladelfia prime. you Invaded half of f*&^& south america with insurgent groups being suppressed. call it what you will but those actions you took still correlates with suppression. what makes your landgrabbing any better???

In response to Dweladelfias and Iberian actions towards our friend The Guinean republic we will take profound and extremely pro active steps to rid Senegal of the Dweladelf menace and help Guinea emerge victorious on David vs Goliath like proportions. we openly declare war on Dweladelfia prime if they do not stop their present self destrucctive actions and abort the pathetic attempt to subjecate a piece of Africa for their own dominion...

We will send troops to Gunea with Immediate effect upon approval of the Guneian government.

Africa Unite!!!!! we will wash off the blood of our enemies Dweladelphia prime and the Iberian Netherlands with our Just cause."

Your supporting Guinea so that it may annex Senegal, while me, DP and others are sending forces to maintain the sovereignty of Senegal as a free and independent nation. Not, the best relationship you have their for Senegal to join your pact. In, fact the opposite is more true. By, your actions their much more likely to join our side. Me and DP are sending forces to fight along side the Senegal forces to protect their country. Can you say the same?

As to your comment about bloody conflict, to my knowledge you have not officially declared war on us and we have certainly not declared war on you. So, unless you plan to go around attacking us for no reason your statement makes no sense.

The CWAA urges the nations of the PAC to send support to Guinea. A Dwadelfian fleet lies of the coast and prepares to attack our fellow nation. If it is possible, send forces to assist with the defense of the Republic of Guinea. We must show them that Africa can handle its own problems.

OOC: oops, almost forgot the delagates.
IC: Delegates from the CWAA:

Mali: General Jean-Paul Ungawa

Mauritania: Dr. Rufique Ibn-Waser al-Desra

Burkina Faso: Colonel Killian Undougou

The CWAA proposes that we make a preemptive strike versus the Dwadelfians by the means of a massive air and sea attack on their carrier group. When they land their troops on PAC soil, hit their marines with artillery before they can land. We must hit them before we are hit too hard to get up.

Guinea: Hatil Gaumiba

We urge countries in the PAC to help Guinea unite Africa. We require aid from foregein nations that wish to annex our sacred homelands. We also would like to thank Canadisten and Vineyard for them trying to end forgein powers coming and attacking our tribes. Thank you.

-Hatil Gaumiba

The Boer republic advocates strongly the utter destruction of the Insidious Dweladelf that is like a plague on the very fabric of our civiliation.

we will participate in this endevour most vociferously. to eradicate any dweladelfian presence in Senegal aswell as any Iberian contribution.

we have set up an initial south african sphere of Influence in the Senegal that is around the Northern region of the country and a aproximatly a third of the nation.

god willing we will rid our land from pestilence and destruction for the last time...

The Boer republic advocates strongly the utter destruction of the Insidious Dweladelf that is like a plague on the very fabric of our civiliation.

we will participate in this endevour most vociferously. to eradicate any dweladelfian presence in Senegal aswell as any Iberian contribution.

we have set up an initial south african sphere of Influence in the Senegal that is around the Northern region of the country and a aproximatly a third of the nation.

god willing we will rid our land from pestilence and destruction for the last time...

A plague? We think not. Our great liberator only wishes to defend the very people you are oppressing. Your tongue is forked and speaks lies. We promise to the people of Africa and to the people of sengal we are not here to stay. We are only here to defend you in your time of need. Once the threat is over we will pull out.

Sorry, DP, but the message you sent above is ignored, considering you have no delegates at the conference. If you want to speak, you may send someone to do so.

and then can get shot in the head... :D

The South African Government is informed about Dweladelfias inevitable collapse. we Therefore must eliminate all rogue dweladelfian elements operating in their armed forces in senegal before a renegade military government comes to Power in Dweladelfia prime.

we also urge our close ally The Empire of Vineyard to participate in an operation to permanantly disable all of Dweladelfias nuclear facilities and therefore render a potentially dangerous rogues state into an impotent and dimished one that will pose no significant threat to our governments.

(ooc this is a clandestine operation, Dweladelfias allies may find out but only after much decrpting of this message, no spontaneous outbursts please... oh right Dweladelfias left.. my bad.... :p )

we anticipate a reply from all members of the pact.

-South African government-

The CWAA is announcing a full scale attack on Senegal to purge the Dwaledelf Scourge.

The Emirate is shocked to see this kind of news pervading in this conference. We will see what efforts the Emirate can offer to alleviate this situation, if but we can acknowledge how much progress has been made in the time intervening.

In addition, we'd like to know what sort of support is still out there for a Pan-African Railway. Seeing as our base of support has expanded westward-bound, there is a distinct possibility to extend the network westward.

The CWAA would like to ask for the PAC nations to assist with reconstruction in Bamako and Rosso, the heaviest hit areas of the Civil War. We also support the Pan-African Railway. We ask thiugh if at any point does the railway enter CWAA territory. For if it does, we shall begin a Trans-State Rail system in our nation once reconstruction is completed.

At the moment, the Pan-African Railway has no accesses to any CWAA territory. However, efforts are being planned at the moment to establish two running lines - one traveling north-south, the other traveling east-west. It seems that this solution is most viable and likely, and perhaps even necessary to insure the integrity of the PAC. We will post some draft proposals once the Corps of Engineers submits its report to the General Staff and Domestic Affairs Ministry before we submit a report to the PAC.

In terms of reconstruction, we support the new administration in power, and we believe that the PAC ought to do everything in its power to lend assistance to a stable government in West Africa.

South Africa appreciates the Continous support by the emirate and also reminds the government of Alif laam imiim about the construction of the Trans african railway.

we have therefore proposed some sort of mediation between interested African nations in this project once more. Albeit with no other african agenda but for the construction of the railway.

Ideal other participants in the project would be:

The empire of Vineyard. (Due to the proximity of our nations and the stability of the democratic republic of the Congo for the development of a railway.)

The new republics of Kenya and Uganda.

The CWAA.

The Emirate has received a draft order from the Corps of Engineers and the General Staff, with possible approved plans to a Pan-African rail system. The one point that we make is that we ought to include the construction of a western north-south railway, to parallel the eastern north-south railway. Otherwise, we feel that these are adequate and valid plans.

Here is our submitted report:

http://www.freewebs.com/ducdesaintlazare/africa.png

our government approves of the schematics provided by the emirate government.

We will be ready for initial construction as soon as a new government is in place in Cape town.

The Newly elected government of the CWAA approves the Emirate's plans. Also, the CWAA is planning on holding talks with the Western Saharan Peoples on an offer to join the CWAA. We propose this due to a lack of a standing government in Western Sahara and the fact that we are able to provide better health and job offers than are provided in their loose territorial "government". Do the Other Pact Nations approve of this? If so, then if the Western Saharans agree, it will become a PAC protectorate until CWAA envoys are able to establish a working gov't and health buildings. Our engineers have planned an agricultural revolution of irrigation and such in the hinterlands of Western Sahara.

[ooc: I think that the PAC needs to take a pro-active role in maintaining the peace on the African continent... If any objections don't arise, would it be alright to move on to Al Qahirah, or does everyone feel content about sticking in Cape Town?]

The Emirate is glad to hear support for the plan. However, we feel that the PAC needs to be more active than simply building the economic foundations of the continent - we need to ensure that continent remains politically and militarily stable. For such a measure, the Emirate delegate would like to invite all African countries - regardless of affiliation - to join in Al Qahirah where we can discuss what exactly we want from PAC, and what PAC can effectively do as an organization.

[ooc: I think that the PAC needs to take a pro-active role in maintaining the peace on the African continent... If any objections don't arise, would it be alright to move on to Al Qahirah, or does everyone feel content about sticking in Cape Town?]

The Emirate is glad to hear support for the plan. However, we feel that the PAC needs to be more active than simply building the economic foundations of the continent - we need to ensure that continent remains politically and militarily stable. For such a measure, the Emirate delegate would like to invite all African countries - regardless of affiliation - to join in Al Qahirah where we can discuss what exactly we want from PAC, and what PAC can effectively do as an organization.

OCC: Is Madagascar welcome, as Africa is it's home and concern? Also, the Kingdom of Iberia has a city on the African continent. So, stable Africa is also it's concern.

OCC: Is Madagascar welcome, as Africa is it's home and concern? Also, the Kingdom of Iberia has a city on the African continent. So, stable Africa is also it's concern.

[ooc: I am inclined to say yes, but I know that the Boer Republik doesn't recognize your states as an African entity - which is why I'm trying to push this to Al Qahirah...]

The Emirate announces its intentions to offer mutual protection to the following states, in accordance with the ideals of establishing a stable constituency in Africa:

Senegal, Cameroon, Tanzania, Rwanda, and Burundi

While we are still awaiting word from these countries to see if they are willing to consider mutual protection as an option, we encourage other African states to join with us in this establishment, to ensure that Africa does not become embroiled in an unnecessarily extended war that will likely bring calamity to any country that willingly or unwillingly involves itself in it as such.

[ooc: I am inclined to say yes, but I know that the Boer Republik doesn't recognize your states as an African entity - which is why I'm trying to push this to Al Qahirah...]

I know that's why I asked.

The Emirate announces its intentions to offer mutual protection to the following states, in accordance with the ideals of establishing a stable constituency in Africa:

Senegal, Cameroon, Tanzania, Rwanda, and Burundi

While we are still awaiting word from these countries to see if they are willing to consider mutual protection as an option, we encourage other African states to join with us in this establishment, to ensure that Africa does not become embroiled in an unnecessarily extended war that will likely bring calamity to any country that willingly or unwillingly involves itself in it as such.

What about Gabon, I (the Kingdom of Iberia) merely signed a defensive alliance with them. I'm sure Gabon would go for it considering it's got two hostile powers sitting on it's doorstep well it use to have two, but now their's just one unless other powers consider EG a hostile power (:D). I know they consider the Republic an enemy for one reason or another.

So, I think Gabon would go for it consider the state of affiars in the region in question.

The Emirate has received a draft order from the Corps of Engineers and the General Staff, with possible approved plans to a Pan-African rail system. The one point that we make is that we ought to include the construction of a western north-south railway, to parallel the eastern north-south railway. Otherwise, we feel that these are adequate and valid plans.

Here is our submitted report:

http://www.freewebs.com/ducdesaintlazare/africa.png


The Engineers of the Empire, along with a board of Military Intellegence Officers have concluded that this plan is NOT a good one, for a variety of reasons.

1). The nations of Rwanda and Burundi, having lsot DRC territory and influence after our annexation of the nation, may try to foil such a project. They can, at any time, cross the border forcefully and sever the rail lines before Vineyardian Forces would have time to respond.

2). The proposed railway passes Lake Kivu. Lake Kivu, despite it being a lake, is one of the most dangerous geological regions to be near in the Empire, as it is one of the world's only 3 exploding lakes. (ooc: No joke: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Kivu ) The Empire can do little about this impending geological disaster, and is monitering the region closly.

3). Volcanos in the region could erupe, causing massive portions of the track to be either destroied or covered up by magma, which would then form into a new rock layer.


Engineers have as such proposed to divert the ailway further inland. The new proposed path is: Isro, Buta, then down to Kisigani, then following the congo river south. This will give the railway ocean access inland, as Vineyardian State-run companies can ship goods from Kisigani to the Atlantic via the Congo river, also allowing for oceanic trade to come in. This new route also avoids our volitile lake, and will not only boost the economic yeild for all parties involved in the project through hightened trade, but will avoid impending disaster with this proposed route.

[ooc: just a point of clarification:

1 - the rail runs through Rwanda and Burundi, so as not to exclude them from the benefits of a railway...

2 - There is that risk, but the risk is more a human collateral, not infrastructure.

3 - The volcanoes would pose a more dire threat, except that most analyses from that region have been shown that the risk of an imminent explosion is unlikely. Of course, the reports also fail to determine if a "surprise" is likely as well, so the threat factor is relatively high due to speculation.

Of course, I offer my justification for this arrangement - I had planned to draw a rail system to two parallel tracks transecting the African continent. The track that is shown is the "eastern" parallel - the western parallel has not been drawn up because it is not our territory primarily, and we wanted some feedback before drawing up a western track. As such, I will not be "moving" the track - perse - further inland; rather if the current track is not suitable, I will place it closer to the coast - with every intention still to draw up a western track once I get better ideas about how to do so.]

The Emirate of Alif Laam Miim would like to bring to the attention of those interested in the PAC, a proposal set forth by a rising state in Africa. We think that the idea itself is worth some merit and ought to be discussed in some portion by the members of PAC.


http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=512012

The CWAA conquer's to ALM's statement and has sent a delegation to the Kigali Summit

The CWAA conquer's to ALM's statement and has sent a delegation to the Kigali Summit
[ooc:

0.o

Your conquer's to my statment and has sent a delegation to the Kigali summit?]


On another positive note, the rail construction programme currently undertaken in the Emirate has begun with much success thusfar. Even though the rail link between Al Qahirah and Al Iskandariyah is now open to use [the modernized rail lines that are planned to be employed for the Pan African Railway proposal], we have begun numerous other construction projects, with the first objective to link our major cities with the more rural provinces and provide a major access to transportation that is easily accessible to the people.

In addition, our project workers have come up with a new programme, hoping to placate the Vineyardian Congolese concerns of exploding lakes. We tenatively present this, with the full awareness that many of the new tracks are not necessarily in the proper geographical configuration. Nonetheless, the planned routes in the Emirate are set for our own purposes - the only lacking components are those required outside the Emirate, which constitutes a large majority of the African continent.

On a point directed to the Kopparbergs representative, the Emirate has made a proposal to link Al Qahirah with Tel Aviv, as the first major land route open to us since before the Sinai Conflict of 1979. We are well aware that historical animosities still follow us, but we are hoping that with your approval, we can cast aside historical rivalries for a better future and a more secure Middle East. After all, it is our objective to maintain a stable homeland for our peoples, and we must cooperate with all of our kins if we are to secure these blessings. In addition, the direct rail link will help to integrate your land infrastructure with that of your large African domains, rather than by the long voyage by disconnected land, sea, and air routes. It will also benefit us, by allowing the Emirate to link with our Arabian domains, ensuring greater integrity of the Emirate in its entirety.

We again stress our urgency to attend the Kigali summit, if only to come together and seek a peaceable unity to the African continent. The Emirate does not come to the summit to make blatant and baseless accusations against the holders of our past - as we could easily have done with Israel and Great Britain. Instead, we go to secure a prosperous future, with the idea that a stable alliance is much preferable to a fragmented discord.

edit - MAP

http://www.freewebs.com/ducdesaintlazare/pacplan.GIF

The Federation of Central Africa will sent a delegation to the conference, the delegates however, have not been decided on.

OOC: I conquer to your statement telling members to go to the summit

IC: The CWAA would like to warn the planners of the railway that it passes directly over the East Quarantine Zone, a valley in eastern Mali were infected persons are placed. The CWAA wishes to supervise construction here as it will be necessary to have high walls and defenses surrounding the track. This is just a precaution to keep the infected away from the train and the train passengers blind to what goes on in the Quarantine Valley.

We also welcome the Federation of Central Africa to the PAC, we hope to be influenced by your insight on Africa's issue's.

On a point directed to the Kopparbergs representative...
OOC: I don't know if I've made the impression of attending to this conference, but the Kingdom of Kopparbergs doesn't have any representative here at the conference. The only involvement we've done is sending one telegram to the PAC, telling you that we're not interested in an African Alliance.

OOC: I conquer to your statement telling members to go to the summit

IC: The CWAA would like to warn the planners of the railway that it passes directly over the East Quarantine Zone, a valley in eastern Mali were infected persons are placed. The CWAA wishes to supervise construction here as it will be necessary to have high walls and defenses surrounding the track. This is just a precaution to keep the infected away from the train and the train passengers blind to what goes on in the Quarantine Valley.

We also welcome the Federation of Central Africa to the PAC, we hope to be influenced by your insight on Africa's issue's.

IC: The Emirate reminds the CWAA that these plans are proposals for routes through which rails may be constructed, upgraded, improved, and otherwise made useful for the Pan African Railway. By submitting this report, we are supplying a possible route that we feel is useful - however bearing in mind that we do not have adequate resources to dictate possible routes outside the Emirate, as was evidenced by the Vineyardian delegation's suggestions. As such, we are hopeful that your quarantine will not last the duration of the construction of the Pan African Railway and that its effects will not pose a grave threat to the stability in your region. Nonetheless, if the CWAA has a better alternative for a route, we suggest that the CWAA provide such a proposal.

OOC: I don't know if I've made the impression of attending to this conference, but the Kingdom of Kopparbergs doesn't have any representative here at the conference. The only involvement we've done is sending one telegram to the PAC, telling you that we're not interested in an African Alliance.

[ooc: I was under the impression that the PAC is not an "alliance" per se, but more a geo-political forum to discuss issues pertinent to the security and prosperity of the African continent... if you're not here, I would strongly suggest coming anyway, because I am almost certain to say that we never agreed to become a military alliance of sorts...]

The delegates of the CWAA propose the the PAC create an optional wing of the conference for peacekeeping and counter-terror missions in Africa under the name of the PAA (Pan-African Army). Members of the wing would put forth a number of troops to the PAA who would be prepared to act on peacekeeping and Counter-Terror missions across the continent. In order for a peacekeeping mission to be sent to a nation, the PAC would hold a vote to agree on the mission. We remind you that this is again OPTIONAL, though we ask that as many nations join the PAA as possible.

The delegates of the CWAA propose the the PAC create an optional wing of the conference for peacekeeping and counter-terror missions in Africa under the name of the PAA (Pan-African Army). Members of the wing would put forth a number of troops to the PAA who would be prepared to act on peacekeeping and Counter-Terror missions across the continent. In order for a peacekeeping mission to be sent to a nation, the PAC would hold a vote to agree on the mission. We remind you that this is again OPTIONAL, though we ask that as many nations join the PAA as possible.

The Emirate would argue against such a policy, as the Pan African Conference was originally designed as a bilateral consortium to discuss African politics between the Boer Republik and Alif Laam Miim. Seeing its current and encouraged expansion, to militarize the Pact per se would be dangerous, centralizing authority into a single organization that does not share the specific geopolitical constraints of each country. It is better that the PAC continue to serve as a consortium, where each country can broach the other about providing, requesting, and discussing military access and deployments. A unified army - while perhaps less confusing - will be more logistically difficult to manage, especially in the long term. Albeit, it is an optional task, as was suggested - and as such, the Emirate will not participate in this task.

The Emirate inquires if any updates to the Pan African Railway plan need to be done, especially concerning routes outside the Emirate.

The CWAA delegation would like to know if it by any chance runs through Western Sahara.

The CWAA delegation would like to know if it by any chance runs through Western Sahara.

The simple answer is yes - the long answer is no, because it's not being built yet, and as far as the Emirate is concerned, we will not make any investment to procure the construction of this project, until the PAC endorses a plan.

A sample can be seen here:

http://www.freewebs.com/ducdesaintlazare/pacplan.GIF

Noting, that areas outside the Emirate are up to debate, pending the decisions of the local governments.

The Government of United Citizen's Federation would like to know why your going to be putting a Railway thought Cote d'Ivoire with out even talking with our Government about this plan.

as stated, the plan is tentative...

If the Cote d'Ivoire government does not wish to participate, we can make accommodations to exclude them from the plan. Likewise, if a country is excluded, we can make accommodations to include them in the final plan.

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OOC: what other issues other than the railroad are there to discuss?

OOC: what other issues other than the railroad are there to discuss?

[ooc: Whatever else you wish to discuss, we'll talk about it :D]

The Emirate wishes to announce the completion of the ALM portions of the Pan-African Railway [PAR]. While there is no absolute plan at the moment, if a PAR plan is finally accepted, we can easily integrate our rail network to the PAR within a year's progress. Until then, we will continue to utilize our networks and maintain them for ease of transportation around the Emirate.

The Emirate would like to call upon the Boer Republik to forgo further development of its nuclear programme, and having already supported the proposal for a nuclear free zone, the Emirate wishes to express its contempt for these weapons and their development. Such weapons jeopardize already outstanding relations, and whereas the Emirate would much rather not throw away years of peaceful development between our two states, it is your lot to reverse these recent decision or otherwise jeopardize the peaceful cooperation of all African states, as has been present already.

If the aforementioned nuclear test follows through, the Emirate will promptly remove its delegation from Cape Town and establish a new Pan African Conference devoted to the peaceful development of Africa, than the vulgar militarization of the continent.