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Assault on Clandonia

Blainesville
14-09-2006, 22:40
A telegram was recieved in the Royal War office. It said to divert Royal soldiers from their path to New Ausha and redirect them to Clandonia Prime. General Lord Phillip Blaine quickly relayed the news to the fleet, and the Royal Army and marines were now nearing Clandonian shores.

The Royal Force was made up of:
50,000 Royal Guard
100 Leopard II
50 CV-90's
50 Mowag Piranha's
20 Gepards
10 M-109's
5 Eurocopter Dauphins
Cravan
14-09-2006, 22:41
OOC:

*cracks knuckles*

Tagged before Danny Boy IMs me twenty times over for support.
Neo-Erusea
14-09-2006, 22:48
OOC: Dude, what kind of military force is that. I've seen a more potent force at a military parade in Nicaragua. Seriuosly, 100 tanks, that's it? Five helicopters? What about fighter jets? Air superiority is a key in war, you know.

Tag for interest.
Mer des Ennuis
14-09-2006, 23:25
Tag, might use this as an excuse to take some land by force.
The World Soviet Party
14-09-2006, 23:26
OOC: Someone's gonna get PWNED.

What, didnt Blackhelm warn you against fighting people with more guns than you?
Clandonia Prime
17-09-2006, 00:50
'Prepare for the extermination of your species' was the leaflet drop onto the Blainesvilleian troops. Clandonian rail gun defences were mobalised along the coast as the ships came into range of the large cannons. Meanwhile the B-2 bomber force was mobalised with tactical nuclear torpedoes to be deployed against the Blainesville navy if they attempted landfall. Clandonian Naval forces mobalised the Exoan Taskforce to intercept the invaders with a combination of frigates and submarines.


The message was broadcast on the Blainesville channel 'attention hostile forces you are now in range of Clandonian gunnery, surrender your force now and scuttle your ships and you will be not be brutally crushed by the hands of the Clandonian armed forces.'
Rosdivan
17-09-2006, 01:08
To the Theocracy of Blainesville
From the Defense Ministry of the Supreme Commonwealth of Rosdivan

The Supreme Commonwealth of Rosdivan hereby puts the Theocracy of Blainseville on notice that any act of aggression against the Republic of Clandonia Prime shall be met with the occupation and annexation of the Theocracy of Blainseville by the Supreme Commonwealth of Rosdivan.

Sincerely,
Michael O'Neill, Minister of Defense
Groznyj
17-09-2006, 01:09
IC:

Clandonia Prime, if at all your government needs aid (although I would highly doubt it), as a fellow member of GDI you can always ask Groznyj for military reinforcement.

-Republic of Groznyj
Raven corps
17-09-2006, 01:09
Official Coporate Letter of Intent:

Raven corps in accordance with the the board of assets absorbtion, it has come to pass that the board has autherized the use of force against the nation of Clandonia Prime. As of now the security forces of the garrisson of Ripp and hannica have been activated and will begin soon.


Signed
Colderon Jason Zion CEO Raven corps
Clandonia Prime
17-09-2006, 01:25
Clandonia has called up its reserve forces! In the next few days 6 million men and women aged 18-22 will be called up to defend the nation as part of their military service. All leave is cancelled and the nation has been put to maximum defence, civillians lined up to give blood and baricaded their homes from bombs. Prepartions were made for para-military groups to be formed from civillian gun clubs and Interior Forces are on their highest alert since the Anarchist Troubles.

To the Groznyjian Government:
CC: Rosdivanian Government

Fellow allys, your support is kind we will accept any kind of support you offer if the situation worsens for now we will fight this perfectic little worm of the Corporate Alliance.
The World Soviet Party
17-09-2006, 01:29
OOC: I can send you guns, tons of guns, mass produced, cheap, easily taken care of guns.
Is that ok?
Clandonia Prime
17-09-2006, 01:32
OOC: Ace mate, I have loads already due to the size of the armys and when I bought a few production rights. But they can be given to as part of Clandonias 'get a gun day', as part of the 'kill-a-corporate alliance member week'

IC: Clandonia accepts your offer faithfull ally, our civillians look forward to getting their hands on these new guns.
The World Soviet Party
17-09-2006, 01:34
We can provide you with some 200 Chainsaws to start with.

OOC: Check Storefront for specs.
Clandonia Prime
17-09-2006, 01:42
OOC: Already got a couple of thousand of them plus production rights and I don't feel like giving them out to civillians yet.....
The World Soviet Party
17-09-2006, 01:47
OOC: Already got a couple of thousand of them plus production rights and I don't feel like giving them out to civillians yet.....

Where did you get them?
And the production rights?
Clandonia Prime
17-09-2006, 01:51
OOC: Off you lol.
The World Soviet Party
17-09-2006, 01:55
OOC: Off you lol.

Oh right, my mistake =p

Then choose another item from my Storefront and I'll gladly send it you.
Shazbotdom
17-09-2006, 02:30
ROFL!!!


This guy's gonna get pwned...
Neo-Erusea
17-09-2006, 02:31
ROFL? I've seen that so many times and I still don't know what it means!:headbang:
Dephire
17-09-2006, 02:33
I'm getting sick of writing all of these long letters that states I'm defending a fellow ally, so let me make it easier for both of us....


"YOU ARE GOING DOWN!!!"
Deserted Territories
17-09-2006, 02:40
Oh jeez Blainesville, what have you gotton yourself into?

On different note, players on NS are starting to spread their armies unrealisticly thin, and still rping with huge armies. Almost every person in this thread has already commited serious man-power to other places (like New Ausha and TWSP), so everyoone is gonna need to a) scale things down across the board, or b) tie up a couple of wars.
Dephire
17-09-2006, 02:44
If you are talking about my military, it's not as spread out as you think.

Danteri is over.

Chitzeland doesn't have very many in there to begin with.

Dephirian Civil War III hasn't started yet.

The other two I just got involved in won't have very many in it as well..
Deserted Territories
17-09-2006, 02:52
OOC: That still makes 4 wars your in. If not a matter of manpower and supplies, then it's a matter of logistics and planning. wars are a big deal, no matter how involved you are in them.
Dephire
17-09-2006, 02:54
OOC: That still makes 4 wars your in. If not a matter of manpower and supplies, then it's a matter of logistics and planning. wars are a big deal, no matter how involved you are in them.

Chitzeland: Pudu and Parthia provide all the logistics and supplies I need.

DCWIII: Hasn't started yet.

OWI: Not even sending more than one thousand people. (NOTE: I SAID PEOPLE!)

OWII: No more than two thousand PEOPLE.

TW: I still have more than ten million. So...there ya go.
Deserted Territories
17-09-2006, 02:55
OOC: Well, the comment wasn't necesarilly directed at you in the first place, the point is i've noticed you've got fingers in alot of pies.
Dephire
17-09-2006, 02:56
OOC:
You don't think I'm capable of being in multiple wars?
Deserted Territories
17-09-2006, 03:01
OOC:
You don't think I'm capable of being in multiple wars?

OOC: I never said that. Nor did I think it, you are very capable. But every nation has its limit.
Hataria
17-09-2006, 03:22
OOC: I am in no wars now. and lets make a OOC Thread for this ok?
Mer des Ennuis
17-09-2006, 03:31
OOC: Hataria, don't make me kick your forces out of blainsville, i already called it! just be glad my orbat is missing!
Blackhelm Confederacy
17-09-2006, 04:35
OOC: Why can't you all just let the noobs duke it out? I mean seriously, I should be the last one to speak here, but why don't you let them both get a chance to actually have a war? That is the only reason why I ordered Blainesville into this. And also, Blainesville, just ignore Hataria, he is a tool.
Blainesville
17-09-2006, 05:39
The first hundred or so men hit the shore and began settung up shop. The bright gold armbands and belts reflected the sunlight of the early morning as the men began digging in and assisting with the landing.

OOC: You can't have 6 million people in the army. You only have 26 million people in your country.
Cravan
17-09-2006, 06:28
Eastern Clandonian Jungles
Third Infantry Division

The early morning sun bathed the men of the Third Infantry Division as they rose for morning drills, the tropical jungles of southern Clandonia Prime teeming with life. The sounds of the wild surrounded them, and caused them to clutch their rifles that much closer.

The men of the Third had been put on high alert since threats had been made against Clandonia by several nations, their main purpose in Clandonia being peacekeeping duties after the civil war ended. They had also been given the purpose of defending Clandonia against outside threats, seeing as Clandonia was only a stone's throw away from the homeland.

"And to think... While we're sweating our asses off up here those fuckers back home are getting into winter...", one man said as they made their early morning patrol through the jungle.
"Yeah, really. Damn climates. I should be back home in the snow. So much more comfortable than this shit."

As they continued, the patrol leader's headset rang in his ear.

"Charlie-Thirty-Two, what is it?"
"Charlie-Thirty-Two, this is Papa Bear. Reports of incursions along the Clandonian coastline have been confirmed. Beware of hostile forces in the area. Over."
"Copy that, Papa Bear, we'll keep a look out."

He waved his men to continue along with him, knowing full well a war was about to start in this land...

Off the Coast of Oliverous
INS Imperial Glory
Operation Restored Order, Day 46

"Incoming reports of unusual activity surrounding Clandonia Prime, sir."

Admiral Jacob Willkins turned from the massive windows which stretched across the bridge of the Conqueror-class hypercarrier, looking to see his XO holding a communique in his hands, the edges of the paper outlined in red tape to symbolise its classified nature.

"Thank you.", he said taking the paper and reading it over quickly. He pointed to a communications officer without removing his eyes from the paper.

"Satellite recon, grid coordinates A37,D15. Screen three, please."
"Aye, sir.", the young woman replied as she punched a few keys, bringing up a satellite display on one of the large screens on the front of the bridge. The admiral approached it, and examined the image closely.

"Prepare an immediate sortie over the area. I want that stretch of sea picked clean of anything with hostile intentions."
"Aye, sir."

Today we send the message that the Triangle is not entered without a payment he blood., he thought silently as he stared at the rising sun on the horizon.
Groznyj
17-09-2006, 07:20
ooc: I think Raven's right, I didnt even take a look at the two's pops till I read the thing about noobs. With all aid excluded I think this would be a very interesting war for 2 young nations to fight with them both learning new things about war and with their tiny forces.

Btw, Clandoina, you have 26 million people. For the love of God tell me you don't have a quarter of your nation in the army. Hell I don't even have a regular army of 6 mill and my pop is 1.6 billion!
Clandonia Prime
17-09-2006, 10:21
The first hundred or so men hit the shore and began settung up shop. The bright gold armbands and belts reflected the sunlight of the early morning as the men began digging in and assisting with the landing.

OOC: You can't have 6 million people in the army. You only have 26 million people in your country.

OOC: Hah I have military service though, like Israel perhaps its a bit large cut it down to say 1 million reserves plus regular full time army of 800,000. And yeah could you let us two fight it out, threaten each other all you like supply me and him but don't actively ingage with uber militarys. That goes for Ravan Corps to and his invasion of me.

The batterys at Firious opened up at Firious launching a bombardment never seen in Clandonian history. B-52's began dropping thermobarical munitions onto the Blainesvillian lines. Meanwhile the 12th Bomber wing deployed anti ship weaponry targeting the pathetic navy.

'AC-130K gunship support is here sir,'

'Good let them have it.'

The gunships cannons pounded away at the incoming troops, the submarine force had now arrived Danskeran and was ordered to fire on the assault ships. Captured prisoners were to be shot the nation of Blainesville would pay for the mess they have got themselves into.

'Contact off starboard,'

'Fire at will!'

The submarines launched their Tigerfish torpedo's onto the enemy ships. AWACSs support was providing allies and forces with information on the enemy as the new satellite network provided intel.

Edit OOC: Maporz time!!!!11eleneventy!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/madnukedude/ClandoniaMap.png
Mationbuds
17-09-2006, 11:24
I'm getting sick of writing all of these long letters that states I'm defending a fellow ally, so let me make it easier for both of us....


"YOU ARE GOING DOWN!!!"


OOC : Although I usually play FT , I do play a little MT/PMT . And Dephire is my ally . For now my forces will conduct peacekeeping operations but any hostility against them will result in open war .

IC :

When the President Matter heard about the on-going war between small nations and their larger supporters , he immediately inquired and found out that an ally was involved .

Besides that , peace-keeping operations would also boost the country's image . In an Presidential Decree , he ordered the following to be deployed asap :

-Commanded by Fleet Admiral Hightree
-2 Nimitz Class SuperCarriers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nimitz_class_aircraft_carrier) (MIN Eclipse , MIN Tyrant)
-4 Kitty Hawk Class Carriers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitty_Hawk_class_aircraft_carrier)
-15 Garcia Class Frigates (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garcia_class_frigate)
-10 Knox Class Frigates (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knox-class_frigate)
-10 Fomidable Class Frigates (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formidable_class_frigate)
-4 Ohio Class Balastic Missile Submarine (SSBN) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohio_class_submarine)
-4 Typhoon Class Balastic Missile Submarine (SSBN) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohio_class_submarine)
-6 Los Angles Class SBNs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles_class_submarine)
-6 Tralfagar Class SBNs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trafalgar_class_submarine)
-8 Arleigh Burke class destroyer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arleigh_Burke_class_destroyer)
-8 Sovremenny class destroyer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovremenny_class_destroyer#General_characteristics)
-2 Blue Ridge Class Command Ships (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Ridge_class_command_ship)
-4San Antonio class amphibious transport dock (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Antonio_class_amphibious_transport_dock)
-4 Newport Class Landing Ship Tanks (LST) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newport_class_tank_landing_ship)




Within several days , elements from the 5th and 6th fleet were drawn to form the 3rd PC (Peacekeeping) Force and were deployed off the coast of Clandonia . They broadcasted a message to all ships in the area :

"This is the Imperial 3rd Peacekeeping Force .We are here on friendly terms . Any hostilities shown towards us will be counted as an act of war ."

The MIN Eclipse , one of the 2 Nimitz Class SuperCarriers launched off 2 F-16 Tomcats and 1 F-17 Stealth Fighter to do some recon runs on both parties .

Meanwhile Fleet Admiral Hightree ordered 2 Trafalgar Class SBNs and a Knox Class Frigate to set up a security perimeter with the aid of several small Patrol Crafts .
Dephire
17-09-2006, 14:31
OOC:
Now I've got to redirect some things...

Total amount of people, note I said PEOPLE, to enter war:

10,000.
Mationbuds
17-09-2006, 14:51
OOC:
Now I've got to redirect some things...

Total amount of people, note I said PEOPLE, to enter war:

10,000.

OOC : Is that directed to me ?
Dephire
17-09-2006, 14:58
OOC : Is that directed to me ?

Nope. Because I just started a civil war thread, I'm having a massive recal and replace. Thus my low numbers in this conflict.

"Modernize (sp?) and cut down on military."
Cravan
17-09-2006, 15:13
ooc: I think Raven's right, I didnt even take a look at the two's pops till I read the thing about noobs. With all aid excluded I think this would be a very interesting war for 2 young nations to fight with them both learning new things about war and with their tiny forces.

Btw, Clandoina, you have 26 million people. For the love of God tell me you don't have a quarter of your nation in the army. Hell I don't even have a regular army of 6 mill and my pop is 1.6 billion!

OOC: Hence why I'm taking a US in Vietnam standpoint, and I'll only have a limited role. (at least early on in 'Nam) I encourage a larger CA nation to do the same and give limited support to balance it out.

No matter how limited my support, though, I cannot afford CP to go down because:
1) He's my ally and my country likes his country. We give him money, we get areas to station troops. (I've had elements of two divisions there since a civil war.)
2) See that green tip on the map just south of him? Yeah, I think you get the idea...
Dephire
17-09-2006, 15:15
OOC: Hence why I'm taking a US in Vietnam standpoint, and I'll only have a limited role. (at least early on in 'Nam) I encourage a larger CA nation to do the same and give limited support to balance it out.

No matter how limited my support, though, I cannot afford CP to go down because:
1) He's my ally and my country likes his country. We give him money, we get areas to station troops. (I've had elements of two divisions there since a civil war.)
2) See that green tip on the map just south of him? Yeah, I think you get the idea...

Is that the map of our region, Crave?
Maldorians
17-09-2006, 15:15
OOC: Hence why I'm taking a US in Vietnam standpoint, and I'll only have a limited role. (at least early on in 'Nam) I encourage a larger CA nation to do the same and give limited support to balance it out.

No matter how limited my support, though, I cannot afford CP to go down because:
1) He's my ally and my country likes his country. We give him money, we get areas to station troops. (I've had elements of two divisions there since a civil war.)
2) See that green tip on the map just south of him? Yeah, I think you get the idea...


ooc: are you serious? you're serious that youre afraid of a less than one month old conquering a place near you and then you think they'll threaten your nation?
Cravan
17-09-2006, 15:17
ooc: are you serious? you're serious that youre afraid of a less than one month old conquering a place near you and then you think they'll threaten your nation?

OOC: One month old nation has large allies. And ICly my nation is arrogant to the point of feeling the need to control what happens within a 6000mi radius of the homeland.
Maldorians
17-09-2006, 15:20
OOC: One month old nation has large allies. And ICly my nation is arrogant to the point of feeling the need to control what happens within a 6000mi radius of the homeland.


ooo ok. Im sry. I get it now
The Aeson
17-09-2006, 15:21
ROFL!!!


This guy's gonna get pwned...

OOC: I don't know, Raven Corps might make things interesting.
Dephire
17-09-2006, 15:22
OOC:
I ask again. Is that the map of the Golden Triangle?
Mationbuds
17-09-2006, 15:26
OOC :
Come on , someone reply to my post ...

IC :

The 3rd Peacekeeping Fleet withdrew its Fighters and Patrol Crafts and began deploying 20 kilometres off the coast of Clanon City , whereby they began launching off 10 F-16 Tomcats , 5 F-17A Stealth Fighter-Bombers and a AWAC Aerial Command Ship . Just to back it up 5 C-57B Gunships were launched to give back-up in case of any incidents .

The fighter wing began an aerial recon of Clanon City and nearby bases . If war does break out , such data would be extremely useful ...
Clandonia Prime
17-09-2006, 15:38
OOC: Its a good job your in my field of allys with the GASN seeing as otherwise I would totally shot you down by now.
Cravan
17-09-2006, 15:38
OOC:
I ask again. Is that the map of the Golden Triangle?

OOC: Yes, a part of it.
Dephire
17-09-2006, 15:41
OOC: Yes, a part of it.

OOC: Last OOC before I IC. Who do I ask to have me added to the map? Even though Dephire really is supposedly an island the size of Greenland by now...
Cravan
17-09-2006, 15:43
OOC: Last OOC before I IC. Who do I ask to have me added to the map? Even though Dephire really is supposedly an island the size of Greenland by now...

OOC: Join our regional forum. All shall be answered there.
Brydog
17-09-2006, 15:54
OOC: Maybe I should send my version of Delta to aid Clandonia, if thats ok
Hotdogs2
17-09-2006, 15:55
OOC: Rubbish: What the hell is it with 1line posts? And all in OOC? Make a damn OOC thread first off, and use a little something called MSN, IRC or TG's to sort out random crap. This is just disgraceful, its an RP not an OOC discussion.

IC:

As Co-Founder of the GDI Hotdogs2 warns Blainville that these actions mean that we are prepared to send troops to defend Clandonia Prime should it be needed. The GDI is a very powerful alliance when compared to your nation and the allies you are likely to have. Hotdogs2 will withhold its military in this case but will be more than prepared to attack your nation should we find it necessary. We warn you that GDI nations will be told of this attack and once alerted we will not stop them from defending their friendly nation.

Such an act of Warmongering is disguisting and we will hold you responsible for any damage caused to Clandonia Prime.

OOC: FFS, the RPing is crap too...im not getting involved, How the hell can you mobilise such a large force Mationbuds to Clandonia Prime so quickly? And please take note that my Hood class &escorts would probably own your navy on its own, so please don't make me get involved by having lots of big nations attack, because it'l lead to the destruction of at least one small nation and a lot of damage to others im sure...if you don't know how to RP, ASK. Plus link for all of you interested in your militaries size: http://www.bananadine.co.uk/dine.php?pagetype=useful&pagefile=nationstates
Herastall
17-09-2006, 15:58
OOC: What started out as a new rpg'er to the forum making a mistake in his post has quickly turned into full scale war... i love this game.

IC: 100,000 men of Herastalls Navy pulled back from the foreign seas to return to their home island. This order was released when the Commander and Cheif acknowledged that war would be happening in some of the coasts naval power was at, and it was safest for these men to return home for the time being. Herastall remains completely neutral in these events unfolding.
Hotdogs2
17-09-2006, 16:01
OOC THREAD!!!

HERE!!! (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11692350#post11692350)

Use it please...
Dephire
17-09-2006, 16:03
"This is the Dephirian Capitol Ranked Ship Drevin. We are currently several hundred miles away and would like to know the current situation at hand. The Drevin is underwater, but can surface if the need is dire. Please inform us further. Thank you."
Brydog
17-09-2006, 16:08
SIC:
Secret Message-34575, Link: Secured
To: "Fox 2"
From: "Big Boss"
Be prepared to be deployed to the nation of Clandonia. A operation has been authorized by the command.

IC:
To: Nation of Clandonia
From: The President of the Republic
We wish to send support to aid your nation aganist Blainesville.

Wolfgang J. Lichtenburg
President of the Republic and Lord Chancellor of the Commonwealths of Yassia, Mali, and Ivory Coast
Maldorians
17-09-2006, 16:13
ooc: who is on whos side?
Clandonia Prime
17-09-2006, 16:15
In reponse to the invasion our B-2 bomber force retaliated on Blainville dropping several tonnes of ordance on military and government targets. We warn you now we have the full backing of our allys to destroy your nation if you do not stop your agresion we will level your country, your civllians will not be happy if they are left standing around with no food, water or electricity. If you do not stop we will continue bombing your country or be forced to use un-convential weaponry to stop you.

Message to Mationbuds:

Why have several of your recon aircraft passed over our nation, you are part of the GASN so we have friendly relations with you? I assume this was not a hostile manner but it worried many civillians with the low flying and heavy aproach.


Message to Dephirian vesel Drevin:

Hello there friends of Clandonia, support is required to intercept any hostile Corporate Alliance targets, we urge you to monitor these vessels incase of possible actions against Clandonian and its ADAN, GDI and GASN allies.
Maldorians
17-09-2006, 16:16
Hello there friends of Clandonia, support is required to intercept any hostile Corporate Alliance targets, we urge you to shoot down and engage all hostile forces without warning. Do not hesistate to fire.


woah woah woah wtf? I'm CA and i'm not fighting you. God call us hostile not CA
Clandonia Prime
17-09-2006, 16:17
woah woah woah wtf? I'm CA and i'm not fighting you. God call us hostile not CA

Blachelm put Blansville to it, so I'm guessing its a CA thing.. Sorry lol will change it.
Maldorians
17-09-2006, 16:21
TO:Clandoria Prime

We have assessed the situation and are sending in a small navy group in your waters to send food and protection.

Troops being sent:

2 Battleships
1 Cruiser
5 Supply Ships
3 Subs
Herastall
17-09-2006, 16:22
Herastall still remains a neutral ally, but sends messages to all nations involved that people attempting to escape the bombing of their cities are welcome to stay in camps on one of Herastalls islands. It provides suitable food, clothes, warmth, electricity and any other neccesity reqiured. The camp can hold up to 2,000,000 refugees, and is funded 70% by national charities, 30% by the government. The Nations are incharge of making sure their citizens arrive safely by themselves. Each citizen can only stay in the camp for up to 4 years, except in special cases.
Hotdogs2
17-09-2006, 16:27
Snip

OOCthread- USE IT! (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11692350#post11692350)

IC:

Hotdogs2 sees Clandonia Prime's actions as rather heavy handed, we wish you would not make such hasty decisions such as bombing the enemy and in such a vague way, as so far we believe you have begun to ocmmint an act like genocide by bombing civillians.

Could we please have some calm before any more military action is taken?
Clandonia Prime
17-09-2006, 16:29
To Maldorians:

We thankyou for your offer your forces will be granted safe passage by our Nimrod aircraft.
Clandonia Prime
17-09-2006, 16:32
Hotdogs2, if you saw the crimes committed by the Blansvillians, killing civillians as they sunbathed on the beaches, they attacked a school boat trip killing over 50 children. We have never attacked purposely civillian areas, in a war is impossible to stop colateral damage, our laser and GPS bombs are the most accurate in the Clandonaian arsenal, we only targeted military and government targets. We have evidence to belive they are run by a brutal dictator who eats puppies for breakfast.
Mationbuds
17-09-2006, 16:35
In reponse to the invasion our B-2 bomber force retaliated on Blainville dropping several tonnes of ordance on military and government targets. We warn you now we have the full backing of our allys to destroy your nation if you do not stop your agresion we will level your country, your civllians will not be happy if they are left standing around with no food, water or electricity. If you do not stop we will continue bombing your country or be forced to use un-convential weaponry to stop you.

Message to Mationbuds:

Why have several of your recon aircraft passed over our nation, you are part of the GASN so we have friendly relations with you? I assume this was not a hostile manner but it worried many civillians with the low flying and heavy aproach.


Message to Dephirian vesel Drevin:

Hello there friends of Clandonia, support is required to intercept any hostile Corporate Alliance targets, we urge you to monitor these vessels incase of possible actions against Clandonian and its ADAN, GDI and GASN allies.

IC :

In response :

"We are of course friendly to you . We have no hostile intent and are simply just doing a simple aeriel recon . We apologize for any scares ."

Meanwhile Admiral Hightree ordered 30 F-16 Tomcats , 20 F-17A Stealth Fighter Bombers , 40 F-15 Falcons , 15 B-2 Bombers , 50 AH-64 Apaches , 50 Cobra Gunships and 20 AC-57 Gunships to strike deep into the heart of Blainsville . The air wings moved in , quickly eliminating any anti-aircraft weaponary with hordes of Laser Guided Missiles and SLAM Missiles .Enemy fighters were dealt with swiftly by Sidewinder Missiles and MauraderI Missiles .

The Gunships and Bombers began to drop several hundred tons worth of Conventional Bombs and Cluster Bomblets . Several hundred Napalm Bomb Canisters were also dropped on strategic military and government targets .

The Fleet also fired 50 Tomahawk Cruise Missiles and 20 Poseidon Class Cruise Missiles . They readied 2 Polaris Nuclear Tipped Missiles in-case of an emergency .The aircraft carriers readied another 2 air wings ...
Blackhelm Confederacy
17-09-2006, 16:55
OOC: O boy, what have we got ourselves into Blainesville my boy.

IC: Blainesville, being a Griffincrest associate state, had a garrison of 150 Folland Gnats and 40 F-4 Phantom II's. Upon recieving word from Blainesvilles military of B-2's entering their airspace, the fighters blasted skyward. Upon finding the enemies, each of the 190 planes let loose 1 AIM-120 AMRAAM.

Four GNF (Griffincrest Naval Force) Chieftains were moving in support with the Blainesville navy. They quickly picked up the Clandonian submarines, and opened up with torpedoes. One of the battleships began pounding the enemy coastal batteries, and off of its sides dropped two fireteams, four men each, of elite Bonechillers. Their job would be to secure an area of beach for a later Griffincrest incursion.
Clandonia Prime
17-09-2006, 17:06
OOC: The whole point of the B-2 is to be stealth besides, your fighters proberly couldn't even fly at the altitude it flys, and I would be more worried about the Mationbuds hitting him.

IC: The submarines rushed to dive as they heard the sonar pings, one took a hit to the port air tanks forcing it to surface in retalation Harriers from the Invicible launched storm shadow cruise missiles at the Blackhelm ships, the missiles had a two stage timed round, the missile peneratrates the structure then there is a time dealy of 20 seconds before the main fuse detonates. Rail gun defences inland targeted the battleship launching their massive 80 cm shells. Meanwhile Rapiers were set up as more and more forces arrived on the coastline.


Clandonian commanders were so worried that they had orderd the Space Shuttle into orbit with X-941, an experimental nuclear device aimed at creating a blanket EMP covering in space over an area, effectively one done in orbit could take out thousands of miles of nation.
Mationbuds
17-09-2006, 17:12
OOC: O boy, what have we got ourselves into Blainesville my boy.

IC: Blainesville, being a Griffincrest associate state, had a garrison of 150 Folland Gnats and 40 F-4 Phantom II's. Upon recieving word from Blainesvilles military of B-2's entering their airspace, the fighters blasted skyward. Upon finding the enemies, each of the 190 planes let loose 1 AIM-120 AMRAAM.

Four GNF (Griffincrest Naval Force) Chieftains were moving in support with the Blainesville navy. They quickly picked up the Clandonian submarines, and opened up with torpedoes. One of the battleships began pounding the enemy coastal batteries, and off of its sides dropped two fireteams, four men each, of elite Bonechillers. Their job would be to secure an area of beach for a later Griffincrest incursion.

OOC : Aw ,reply to my post...

IC :

The F-15 Falcons broke formation and flew towards the Clandonian B-2s and dispersed flares and chaffs to lure the AMRAAMs away while they fired off Sidewinder Missiles and MauraderI Heat-Seeking Missiles .

The F-16 Tomcats fired off their AMRAAMs and Sidewinders at the enemy Phantoms and Folland Gnats . The B-2s and F-17As began launching SLAM Missiles and CBUs at the enemy SAMs while firing off Napalms and White Prospherous Missiles to kill of any survivors ... Several Tomahawk Cruise Missiles were redirected to eliminate the enemy SAM Sites and Garrisons/Airfields ...
Blackhelm Confederacy
17-09-2006, 17:28
The Griffincrest fighters all deployed their own flares and chaff, and fired another AMRAAM, now aimed at this new threat. On the ground, Griffincrest SA-3's and SA-11's began tracking the Mationbud's aircraft and opened up firing dozens of rockets skywards.

(OOC: Don't wanna hear about not being able to be seen because of stealth. If Yugoslavia can shoot down an F-117 with an SA-3, so can Griffincrest.)
Rosdivan
17-09-2006, 17:34
The Griffincrest fighters all deployed their own flares and chaff, and fired another AMRAAM, now aimed at this new threat. On the ground, Griffincrest SA-3's and SA-11's began tracking the Mationbud's aircraft and opened up firing dozens of rockets skywards.

(OOC: Don't wanna hear about not being able to be seen because of stealth. If Yugoslavia can shoot down an F-117 with an SA-3, so can Griffincrest.)

Yugoslavia shot down an F-117 because it kept flying the same route night after night. The occasional hits that they got off that let them build up a general idea of where it would be and then they spammed the area with SAMs like WW2 flak, resulting in a lucky hit. Hence, it does not mean that you'll be able to shoot down stealthy aircraft just like that.
Cravan
17-09-2006, 17:34
The Griffincrest fighters all deployed their own flares and chaff, and fired another AMRAAM, now aimed at this new threat. On the ground, Griffincrest SA-3's and SA-11's began tracking the Mationbud's aircraft and opened up firing dozens of rockets skywards.

(OOC: Don't wanna hear about not being able to be seen because of stealth. If Yugoslavia can shoot down an F-117 with an SA-3, so can Griffincrest.)

((OOC: Yugoslavia downed an F-117 because the conditions were right and just out of sheer luck.
Read (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-117_Nighthawk#Combat_losses)

EDIT- Like Ros said.

IC shall come later.))
Clandonia Prime
17-09-2006, 17:38
'Deploying counter measures and climbing to 50,000 ft that will teach them.!'

The plans soared up high escpaing the F-4's and Gnats leaving them a good 5000ft bellow them.

'OK launch and dump what you've got left, we need to return to base, good luck gentlemen I will see you back in Clandonia.'
Mationbuds
17-09-2006, 17:41
The Griffincrest fighters all deployed their own flares and chaff, and fired another AMRAAM, now aimed at this new threat. On the ground, Griffincrest SA-3's and SA-11's began tracking the Mationbud's aircraft and opened up firing dozens of rockets skywards.

(OOC: Don't wanna hear about not being able to be seen because of stealth. If Yugoslavia can shoot down an F-117 with an SA-3, so can Griffincrest.)


IC :

The F-16s and F-15s swerved and ducked , dispensing their own flares and chaffs to ward of the enemy AMRAAMs . However a few F-15s were shot down along with a few enemy Phantoms . They then engaged in dogfights with the enemy fighters , deploying tungsten strips to jam the engines of the enemy planes and firing indicenary and cannon rounds from their Vulcan Chain Guns .

The B-2s and F-17As began to respond to the enemy SA Batteries . They employed radar jamming techniques and Electronic Countermeasures to jam the SA batteries's radar . They then flew near and fired loads of SLAM Missiles and Indicenary Rockets which exploded into huge fireballs upon impact . The damage was further enhanced with the dropping of Napalm Canisters .

Meanwhile the 3rd Fleet began moving closer towards Blainsville shoreline and fired off 250 Harpoon Anti-Ship missiles at the Blackhelm Ships and the SAM and Gattling Batteries began firing hordes of AAA Round and SAM Missiles to combat the enemy fighters .

The Kitty Hawk Carriers and Nimitz SuperCarriers deployed another 100 F-15 Falcons , 80 F-16 Tomcats , 20 B-2 Stealth Bombers , 50 F-17A Stealth Fighter Bombers and 50 AC-57 Heavy Gunships to back up the current air battle .

Another 20 TomahawkClass Cruise Missiles and 5 Polaris Class Cruise Missiles were launched at the enemy SA Batteries .As a serious warning , a Trident Class Nuclear Tipped Cruise Missiles was fired at supersonic speeds at the Blackhelm Fortress-Airbase ...
Mer des Ennuis
17-09-2006, 22:10
OOC: Mationbuds, since when can stealth bombers take off from a nimitz?
Raven corps
17-09-2006, 22:31
"Ripp Garrison activatation complete" Flashed up on a screen on the Ripp Garison command center. The employees in the room made preperations for the large numbers about to be moved from the area. The field of Orcas sat ready with engines burning. The pilots in thier cockpits going over thier final check lists. In the housing facilities, Soldiers retrieved thier daily nurtitional infuzstion and had thier air tanks filed with the normal water saturated O2, Muscle enhancers. Thier armor was checked and readied for ASAP deployment and combat. Soon over 100,000,000 troops stood read in a large open field thier identical Armor gave them a eriee look of demons ready to end the realm of mortality. With no exsposed skin and thier eyes enhanced with optic amplifiers that glowed with an angry red. Large screens turned on and gave orders to the mass.

" Security Ready Weapons!" said the man on the screen

And in unison the sound of 100,00,000 clicking bolts sounded over the hills. The soldiers the weapons holding them out exactly 3 inches from thier chest armor plate.

" Security Ready Ordiance!" shouted the man again

And again in unison the sound of mechainical voises sounding
" Ordiance ready!"

" Security ready for Combat!" schouted the man agian

The land was silent just as the men shouted in unison

" We are the SF of Raven corps, we serve always, and forever even to our dying breath we give to the corporation. To Colderon, to profit. We are the SF. Brave and unmoved we fight, unshakable we move forward. We are the SF......( pause) And this day we fight!"

" Security move to your place of deployment!" shouted the man.

The soldiers began to move in unison, the sound of 1 million metal buttom boots made the ground shake. The soldiers arrived to the Orcas drop zone and readied for deployment, Employees making a check of each soldiers stepping on to the Ocra.

" Force member 463863954-aa-9786 approved for comabt.....And so on each soldier went through this measure. Soon over 5000 orcas started to luanch like a wave of killer bbes attacking an intruder. The where going to the second garrison that was activated... Hannica. There they would link with the Raven corps security naval force Talon fleets 2-14. Fleets 2-8 where the Arsenal ship fleets. Fleets 9-14 where carriers and supply ships a well as a smaller fleet of Talon dreads. the Arsenal ships could make short work of any ground installation and can strike space born vessels. Each ships holding 1000 missile and able to fire all in less then 20 mins. The arsenal ship was cheap and destructive... the must death for your buck.

5 hours later... the Orca fleets arrived and refueled. The Talon fleets ready and waiting. the Hannica command center gave wrd to Corporate H.Q. that complete Garrison activation was complete.

Colderon got word of the Garrissons activation. The letter was carried by a young lady who bore a synbol on her left arm.

" Thank you Julie thats all I need" said Colderon as he looked over the papers.

" Your welcome sir" relied julie as she walked away she looked back at him hoping that he was looking back, but Colderon was doing nothing but looking over reports. Julie walked off and sat back at her desk.

Colderon finished looking over the reports and gave the word to proceed. Colderon picked up him phone and called the SEC. General that was oversee of the mission...

" Hello Sir, how may I be of service?" asked SEC. gen. Markum.

" The mission is go. Proceed with the plan" ordered Colderon as he hung up the phone. The General put his phone away and sent the orders to the soldiers.

At the docks the last shipment weapons and equipment had just been finished when the order came through. The ships commanders made ready and started off.....


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The young Lt. ran across the halls of the Ministry of Defence with the photos in his hand. The satellites had picked up Raven corps troops preparing to leave en masse for Clandonia. The command bunker nearly 2 km's down underground was a dark room filled with large wall mounted screens showing the various operations ongoing. The commander on duty, it was early sunday morning not many people were there or fully alert.

'What!'

'Sir, it looks bad very bad.'

Commander Pliskin had been in several conflicts, on the loyalist side in the civil war he had seen many a battle. He picked up the red phone, answered by President Urkins private Interior Force guardroom, they sent a runner to awake him up it was 2 am.

'Mobalise our strategical forces, full alert and someone get me the chief of staffs in the command room in 10 minutes!'

The command room was filled with a lot of white looking sleepy faces, awoken from their weekend breaks they were not happy.

'The bomber force is up in the air now, we have instant sunshine on ice and ready.'

'Good'

'Reserve forces have already reported in, its being reported on the news networks already.'

'I have mobalised the army to move to the coast and begin fortifications.'

'OK, I don't want to nuke them, what can we stop them with conventially?'

'5 toone, FAEs thermobarical weaponry what we dropped in TWSP against the CA forces there, levelled an area of 2 miles.'

'OK good we will use them then combined with lots and lots of artilery. I have spoken to the Cravans and Dephirians ADAN and GASN are mobalising forces to our aid, gentlemen the fight for Clandonia has begun....'

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The fleet had been en route for some time and had begun to pick up unknown objects on thier EMP domar*. The fleet begun to put itself on full alert. The Arsenal ships set themselve up for air combat. The H.A.E.S.B.s on the Arsenal ship came to life and started to trian in on the incoming. The Quad Miniguns came to life to strike down any missiles or bombs that are dropped.

" SEC. General Markum, This is Talon Arsenal ship commander unit 683453-a-2452. The Arsenal anti-air systems is online"

" Perfect, I have already sent out EMP missile water turrets, Let them come to us!" said the SEC. Gen. Markum

The fleet moved to intercept the aircraft. The Arsenal ships moved into a circle to give overlapping cover to the rest of the fleet. The General moved to the outside to see the wide ocean hoping to see the first shot.

" Sir it is unwise to stand out side" announced an Employee at the Domar control

" I will take my chances" said the General

About that time the first shot fired away. The EMP flak/ direct hit missiles fired with great speed rocketing through the sky to ensure that the planes and thier pilots met thier markers...

* Domar= EMP domar is a device sends out an EMP pluse in a dome shape on land and a complete sphere on the water. The Dome can goes for a long length of space. When the dome comes in contact with an object the dome sends back data on the object as well as a picture of the object in which a computer reads and can distingues the object and can make judgment about what is a threat. the computer then sends out the attack
Galmiria
17-09-2006, 22:37
ooc:good battle
Clandonia Prime
17-09-2006, 22:43
With the arrival of the Ravenian fleet the chemical warfare division was alerted in Clandonia, as the massive lines of civllians fleeing the coastline jammed the highways escaping away on the other side the lines of supply trucks and reinforcements. Hydrogen Cyanide shells had been issued to battery crews incase of a broken arrow situation, Clandonians space command would do the rest exploding a nuclear weapon in orbit over the Raven Corps homeground, crippling their nation with communication shut off their hi-tech systems would fail.
Raven corps
17-09-2006, 22:46
Galmiria[/B];11694204]The Maldorian fleet of
2 Battleships
1 Cruiser
5 Supply Ships
3 Subs

had landed in a Clandonia Prime port and the battleships, crusier, and subs moved towards the battlefield while the supply ships brought aid.


OOC: puppeteering I see lol

IC:

With the fleet stationary for the incoming air attack, the Raven corps fleet sat still as it waited for a report. But even with the buz of war ringing loud within the ships hulls a small laugh could be heard from the lower decks..

"( laughing...) I can believe what I am seeing here... Thats like the smallest group I have ever seen" Said a domar operator as he read reports of the newest fleet in the water. With a few more giggles he sent the report to the Fleet SEC. General. When the General arrived he read the report and smiled and threw it away...
Raven corps
17-09-2006, 22:48
With the arrival of the Ravenian fleet the chemical warfare division was alerted in Clandonia, as the massive lines of civllians fleeing the coastline jammed the highways escaping away on the other side the lines of supply trucks and reinforcements. Hydrogen Cyanide shells had been issued to battery crews incase of a broken arrow situation, Clandonians space command would do the rest exploding a nuclear weapon in orbit over the Raven Corps homeground, crippling their nation with communication shut off their hi-tech systems would fail.

Check out my webpage I think you will find the information there very helpful.
Main point I have no Homegroung.... If your looking for my Corporate H.Q. its in the International city of Terra located in Willink.
Maldorians
17-09-2006, 22:50
OOC: puppeteering I see lol



ooc:what do you mean?
Raven corps
17-09-2006, 22:51
The Maldorian fleet of
2 Battleships
1 Cruiser
5 Supply Ships
3 Subs

had landed in a Clandonia Prime port and the battleships, crusier, and subs moved towards the battlefield while the supply ships brought aid.

Help any.... posted by Galmiria
Clandonia Prime
17-09-2006, 22:52
Check out my webpage I think you will find the information there very helpful.
Main point I have no Homegroung.... If your looking for my Corporate H.Q. its in the International city of Terra located in Willink.

Holy fuck.............
Galmiria
17-09-2006, 22:59
ooc: i dont see what wrong. The Maldorian Military gave me a fleet before they randomly attacked me.
Hurtful Thoughts
17-09-2006, 23:47
The Royal Force was made up of:
50,000 Royal Guard
100 Leopard II
50 CV-90's
50 Mowag Piranha's
20 Gepards
10 M-109's
5 Eurocopter Dauphins

Reminds me of my starting army deployment sizes.

They got trounced in every battle (but supirior training/equipment and surprise managed to inflict one sided casualties)

I'll send a modest 21 divisions.**
One railgun
10 Infantry (CDF) divisions*
5 Mobile Army
5 Mechanized Army

*If this turn into a war.
**Promised that they'd just have to haul shells and build roads.
Blackhelm Confederacy
18-09-2006, 00:02
Yugoslavia shot down an F-117 because it kept flying the same route night after night. The occasional hits that they got off that let them build up a general idea of where it would be and then they spammed the area with SAMs like WW2 flak, resulting in a lucky hit. Hence, it does not mean that you'll be able to shoot down stealthy aircraft just like that.

Wesley Clark says otherwise. According to him, the Yugoslavians adjusted their radar to pick up on the F-117. Need proof?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-117#Combat_losses

Rosdivan you act like your alot smarter than you really are.
Blackhelm Confederacy
18-09-2006, 00:12
OOC: Did Mationbuds nuke my fleet?
Rosdivan
18-09-2006, 00:22
Wesley Clark says otherwise. According to him, the Yugoslavians adjusted their radar to pick up on the F-117. Need proof?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-117#Combat_losses

Rosdivan you act like your alot smarter than you really are.

Read the next paragraph. The guy WHO SHOT DOWN THE PLANE said it was because they kept flying the same routes. He also mentions improving their radar, but gave no details on how that was done and was probably a "Don't filter out contacts of exceedingly tiny size" software command used in conjunction with the other methods, assuming that that line wasn't simply a bit of bs. Note that he doesn't claim to have been able to modify his radars to be able to track the plane, which is what you're claiming to do (detecting and tracking are two very different things).


According to an interview, Zoltán Dani was able to keep most of his missile sites intact and had a number of spotters spread out looking for F-117s and other aircraft. Zoltán and his missile crews guessed the flight paths of earlier F-117As from occasional visual and radar spottings and judging from this information and what target had just been bombed, Zoltan and his missile battery determined the probable flight path of F-117A #82-806. His missile crews and spotters were then able to locate it and fire their missiles. Zoltán also claims to have modified his radars to better detect the F-117A, but he has not disclosed what was changed.
Raven corps
18-09-2006, 00:27
OOC: Did Mationbuds nuke my fleet?


No, your Air base It looks like
Blackhelm Confederacy
18-09-2006, 00:35
Does this phrase mean nothing to you "Zoltán also claims to have modified his radars to better detect the F-117A, but he has not disclosed what was changed."

Not only this, but he managed to shoot down a solitary aircraft, much harder to pick up than a full wing of stealth fighters. Stealth planes are not meant to be used en masse as it provides a larger probability of detection.
Dephire
18-09-2006, 00:39
"What's the situation here. I know you said inexperianced player vs. inexperianced player..well these troops I'm sending are fresh recruits."
Rosdivan
18-09-2006, 00:42
Does this phrase mean nothing to you "Zoltán also claims to have modified his radars to better detect the F-117A, but he has not disclosed what was changed."

It means that he claimed to do so. Not that he actually did. The more reasonable explanation is the bit right above it.

This is how he did it. (http://www.strategypage.com/dls/articles/2005124224417.asp)


Not only this, but he managed to shoot down a solitary aircraft, much harder to pick up than a full wing of stealth fighters. Stealth planes are not meant to be used en masse as it provides a larger probability of detection.

Yes, but not tracking. Being able to detect their presence is a very different task from being able to track them sufficiently to home a missile in on it.
Blackhelm Confederacy
18-09-2006, 00:45
If an SA-3 can detect them, the much more modern SA-11 would be able to detect them as well. All I would have to do is fill the air were they were detected with missiles, and bam, no more bombers.
Raven corps
18-09-2006, 00:52
please fight in the ooc thread....
Rosdivan
18-09-2006, 00:52
If an SA-3 can detect them, the much more modern SA-11 would be able to detect them as well. All I would have to do is fill the air were they were detected with missiles, and bam, no more bombers.

Wrong. Detection merely lets you know that something is in the area. It doesn't tell you where precisely it is (OTH-R is the best example of this, very inaccurate), what it is, or who it belongs to. Furthermore, he had advance notice of where they'd be due to American stupidity and spies. You do not. Therefore you cannot surprise the F-117s as he was. You'll need your radars on continuously, which will let him avoid getting close enough that they can do such. You'll also then be liable to destruction via HARM.
Hataria
18-09-2006, 01:04
The Hatarian Fleet was on its way to enemy territory at Full Speed ready for Action.

The Commanders of The Invasion Force were Grand Admiral Ryu, Grand General Asuka and Surpreme General Tao Mai. These Commanders were the most Powerful Commanders in the Empire, other then Shogun Nadia.

With the Fleet heading for Blainesville and would Start the Invasion, the the Fleet would attack Blackhelm Confederacy Forces trying to Invade Clandonia. While The land forces would crush the enemy forces in their Territory.
Mationbuds
18-09-2006, 10:43
OOC: Rubbish: What the hell is it with 1line posts? And all in OOC? Make a damn OOC thread first off, and use a little something called MSN, IRC or TG's to sort out random crap. This is just disgraceful, its an RP not an OOC discussion.

IC:

As Co-Founder of the GDI Hotdogs2 warns Blainville that these actions mean that we are prepared to send troops to defend Clandonia Prime should it be needed. The GDI is a very powerful alliance when compared to your nation and the allies you are likely to have. Hotdogs2 will withhold its military in this case but will be more than prepared to attack your nation should we find it necessary. We warn you that GDI nations will be told of this attack and once alerted we will not stop them from defending their friendly nation.

Such an act of Warmongering is disguisting and we will hold you responsible for any damage caused to Clandonia Prime.

OOC: FFS, the RPing is crap too...im not getting involved, How the hell can you mobilise such a large force Mationbuds to Clandonia Prime so quickly? And please take note that my Hood class &escorts would probably own your navy on its own, so please don't make me get involved by having lots of big nations attack, because it'l lead to the destruction of at least one small nation and a lot of damage to others im sure...if you don't know how to RP, ASK. Plus link for all of you interested in your militaries size: http://www.bananadine.co.uk/dine.php?pagetype=useful&pagefile=nationstates

OOC :
That's the calculator I suggested everyone to use in the very beginning . Anyways I checked again and I have a full time force of 135.3 Million and 811.8 Million Reservists .
Mationbuds
18-09-2006, 10:47
OOC: Mationbuds, since when can stealth bombers take off from a nimitz?


Nah , it is a modified Nimitz carrier .
Mationbuds
18-09-2006, 10:51
OOC: Did Mationbuds nuke my fleet?


No , I nuked your main airbase.
Mationbuds
18-09-2006, 10:52
OOC: Did Mationbuds nuke my fleet?


No , I nuked your main airbase. Can you reply to my post now .
Hataria
18-09-2006, 16:53
Bumped for you guys
Tenuria
18-09-2006, 17:10
Nah , it is a modified Nimitz carrier .

Unless by "modified" you mean "increased in deck area and size approximately threefold", a bomber of any type cannot take off from a carrier simply because the amount of runway space a bomber needs to take off is generally quite large -- usually in excess of 400 metres. Not to mention that the bomber would be really bulky and make it very difficult for many other planes to stay on the carrier, or survive the post-takeoff recoil.

And seriously, everyone else, this is the most messed-up RP I've seen in a long time. And I've seen a lot of RPs.

Try again.
Mer des Ennuis
18-09-2006, 17:11
Mationbuds, I don't care how much you modify a nimitz, you are not launching stealth bombers from it. The runway is too short/not wide enough. A b2 has a wingspan of 172 ft (52.12 meters), which is almost as wide as the total width of the carrier itself. Its just not going to happen.
Questers
18-09-2006, 17:16
Mationbuds, get a clue. You can't launch a 'stealth bomber' off a nimtiz because the catapults aren't big enough, the elavators aren't big enough, there is not enough internal space - using the B2 figures, you'd be able to mount approximately six of them. Great, and youd' only be able to launch or recover one at a time. That's really useful. Then there's a catapult - you can't make a catapult big enough to launch this kind of bomber off a Nimitz.
Tenuria
18-09-2006, 17:18
Great minds think alike, eh Matt/Jon? :p
Mationbuds
18-09-2006, 17:38
Mationbuds, I don't care how much you modify a nimitz, you are not launching stealth bombers from it. The runway is too short/not wide enough. A b2 has a wingspan of 172 ft (52.12 meters), which is almost as wide as the total width of the carrier itself. Its just not going to happen.


Even so , I could've launched it from a GASN Airbase .
Edward City
18-09-2006, 17:46
To the Government of Clandonia Prime,from the Government of the United States of Edward City

Hi,i'm the president of the government of the United States of Edward City and i give you reinforcements to defend your country.

Our reinforcement strike force has:

300 units-F-40 Strike Force Jet
1.000 units-Military Paratroopers
90.000 units-Infantry men
600 units-T-90 Tanks(crew included)
50 units-Humvee
100 units-Super Marines
3 units-aircraft carriers(Alex-Class|ECS Kirk,Alvar-Class|ECS Edward & Juan Carlos-Class|ECS Rigo)
10 units-Airbus A400 Cargo Aircraft
5 units-Frigate Pandora-Class
3 units-Space Frigates Sideshore-Class


Send me telegram if you accept.

Peacefully your's,Albert Mainzer,President of the United States of Edward City.
Tenuria
18-09-2006, 18:04
The Kitty Hawk Carriers and Nimitz SuperCarriers deployed another 100 F-15 Falcons , 80 F-16 Tomcats , 20 B-2 Stealth Bombers , 50 F-17A Stealth Fighter Bombers and 50 AC-57 Heavy Gunships to back up the current air battle .


Er... well...they weren't.
Mer des Ennuis
18-09-2006, 19:54
I just want to point out whats wrong with this thread, after reviewing the entire damn thing:

Clandonia Prime, a nation of around 25,000,000 when this whole thing started, and even now, has a defence budget of $23,716,933,840.51, and a GDP per capita of $9,834.41 with such high-tech nations as Bulgaria, but not a wealthy nation like Mexico, has…

B2-Bombers, which are apparently undetectable regardless of the quality of radar used against them,
“Rail Gun Defences” that can launch 800mm shells (i believe)
6 million men in the army (later cut back to 2.8 million)
AC-130k gunships

Mationbuds, off of 2 nimitz class carriers and 4 kitty hawk class carriers, (presuming the latest Nimitz class build) which can hold a total of 520 fixed-wing aircraft and helicopters, launched…
110 F-16s
110 F-14s
40 F-15s
35 B-2s
75 F-117 nighthawks
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-117#Specifications_.28F-117_Nighthawk.29
1 Full-blown AWACS (you know, the 747 type)
5 C-57 gunships (?)
50 AH-64s (which aren’t, you know, naval helicopters…)
50 Cobras (read above)
70 AC-57 Gunships (not sure what these are)

These then did the following: “The air wings moved in , quickly eliminating any anti-aircraft weaponary with hordes of Laser Guided Missiles and SLAM Missiles .Enemy fighters were dealt with swiftly by Sidewinder Missiles and MauraderI Missiles .”

Blackhelm did the following as well:
150 ’52 Folland Gnat Subsonic Jet Trainers managed to track and take down B-2s
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folland_Gnat
With the help of 40 ’58 F-4 Phantom Fighter bombers
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-4

Hataria I’m not even going to deal with


Am I the only one who thinks no one here knows what they are talking about?
Groznyj
18-09-2006, 20:26
I totally agree with you bud. And Mation buds as I ahve said before...THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS AN F-16 TOMCAT, ITS DESIGNATED F-14. Please its starting to hurt my brain even after I explained it for you in the ooc thread I have to put it here.

Besides, this rp should be redone, by now its more disorganized than a 3rd graders' backpack. I was going to get involved, but with 50 giant armies convergin upon two tiny nations, nukes being thrown around like cow dung at a newmexican ranch party I think I'll pass. And no... hell no can you launch a B2 from a nimitz! To be realistic take a look at this: see the planes used in reallife on carriers? Only those planes can be used on carriers. To retrofit an f-15 to make it structurally able to withstand the take off and the modifications you'll need, hell your better off buying an air wing of f-14s w/e.

Sorry its just, damn this is the highest shining example of what an rp shouldn't be. Actually this should be linked to the stickies, just for everyone's info.

Also..please, use the ooc will yas?
Hurtful Thoughts
19-09-2006, 05:36
Unless by "modified" you mean "increased in deck area and size approximately threefold", a bomber of any type cannot take off from a carrier simply because the amount of runway space a bomber needs to take off is generally quite large -- usually in excess of 400 metres. Not to mention that the bomber would be really bulky and make it very difficult for many other planes to stay on the carrier, or survive the post-takeoff recoil.

And seriously, everyone else, this is the most messed-up RP I've seen in a long time. And I've seen a lot of RPs.

Try again.

Ever hear of the Nuke capable supersonic A-5 Vigilante?
t is carrier capable.
On a regular Nimitz class.

But I agree that an F-117A Nighthawk is a bit too fragile, and the B-2 is too wide.

And funny enough, a type of F-15 Eagle was retrofitted to be used on carriers in real life...

And FYI: if you did carry B-2s on deck it would be in the style of the B-25s used during the Doolittle raid, the salt ruined the upper gun teurrets (and most of the achine guns, making them rather useless, so they replaced them with brooms to save wieght) now imagine what that same salt would do to the B-2; a ground loving hangar queen of the Air Force?

Andyes, I do recall the time when some test pilot repeatedly landed a C-130 on a Nimitz and rolled to a stop without any arrestor hooks used.
Groznyj
19-09-2006, 06:24
Wow I didnt know about the f-15 thing. Can you post a link to it?
Mationbuds
19-09-2006, 09:38
OOC : Bump to Blainsville .
Hataria
19-09-2006, 15:30
Waiting.............
Raven corps
20-09-2006, 13:15
This is retarded...... CP if you want to RP a real RP instead of a stupid arugement just continue in my thread.... I dont know how you people can just come in a ruin a good RP..... And you argue about crap thats means jack diddle here. I dony care if some Yugo guy saw an F-117... the F-117 is an old aircraft it was going to happen.

Now If anyone really wants to RP and have a good time then lets do this over again...
Mationbuds
20-09-2006, 13:30
This is retarded...... CP if you want to RP a real RP instead of a stupid arugement just continue in my thread.... I dont know how you people can just come in a ruin a good RP..... And you argue about crap thats means jack diddle here. I dony care if some Yugo guy saw an F-117... the F-117 is an old aircraft it was going to happen.

Now If anyone really wants to RP and have a good time then lets do this over again...


OOC :
I agree that we should start again but I disagree that the F-117 being shot down was going to happen .And someone try to get Blainsville .
Hotdogs2
20-09-2006, 15:44
OOC :
I agree that we should start again but I disagree that the F-117 being shot down was going to happen .And someone try to get Blainsville .

Umm, this is NS, and an F-117 WAS shot down in Yugoslavia so don't even think about it pretty much. With all the RADAR systems out there on NS the F-117 is obsolete, its slow and not so stealthy as you would think.

A-5 Vigilante's are attack aircraft rather than bombers...and as a matter of fact most fighter/attack aircraft could be fitted with a nuclear weapon but i think that these days they aren't kept in stock massively.
Hataria
20-09-2006, 17:10
Stop OOCing and RP! you are Ruining The Thread with Flames and wanking!
Hotdogs2
20-09-2006, 19:58
Sorry, didn't realise it wasn't OOC, me being stupid. BTW your national anthem....lol ;)

Hotdogs2 can only say this:

CONFLICT IGNORED

I feel this will just turn into flaming etc and get closed if your not careful...
Hataria
20-09-2006, 20:25
OOC : Bump to Blainsville .

Sorry, didn't realise it wasn't OOC, me being stupid. BTW your national anthem....lol ;)

Hotdogs2 can only say this:

CONFLICT IGNORED

I feel this will just turn into flaming etc and get closed if your not careful...

OOCThat can get you in Trobble with The Mods, trying to cause a Flamewar to cause it to be Closed.
No Mans Landia
20-09-2006, 22:02
OOCThat can get you in Trobble with The Mods, trying to cause a Flamewar to cause it to be Closed.

OOC: What? He said that if you aren't careful, this could turn into a flamewar. How did you make the, I must say astounding, leap to him trying to start a flamewar?
Hotdogs2
21-09-2006, 16:44
Hataria, TG's
Questers
21-09-2006, 16:54
OOCThat can get you in Trobble with The Mods, trying to cause a Flamewar to cause it to be Closed.

Yea, and stealing people's designs gets you in 'trobble' with the mods too, doesn't it Hataria?
Hataria
21-09-2006, 17:05
OOC: Huh?
Clandonia Prime
21-09-2006, 18:27
OOC: Sorry I'm away and not go regular net access, I will be back tomorow afternoon BST.
Groznyj
21-09-2006, 20:30
1 word describes this rp very well...

Lol
Blainesville
22-09-2006, 02:01
I'm back! What did I miss??
Hataria
22-09-2006, 02:06
I'm back! What did I miss??


OOC: People Trying to start a Flame war on this Thread and........oh yah, I am Invadeing you as soon as I reach you soon, in The next IC Post I will do
Blainesville
22-09-2006, 02:35
...I'm RL Switzerland. Have a good time landing on my coast though.
Cravan
22-09-2006, 02:40
OOC: Here's suggesting we retcon it and start over.
Hataria
22-09-2006, 02:48
...I'm RL Switzerland. Have a good time landing on my coast though.

OOC O_O;;;; HOW THE HELL ARE YOU INVADEING CLANDONIA???
Blainesville
22-09-2006, 03:14
I used BC's ships. He told me what to do in a TG.
Hataria
22-09-2006, 03:32
I used BC's ships. He told me what to do in a TG.

OOC: I thought you had a port and a coast.....sorry, just Ignore the whole thing.
Blainesville
22-09-2006, 03:42
OOC: I thought you had a port and a coast.....sorry, just Ignore the whole thing.

kk
Mer des Ennuis
22-09-2006, 03:49
In all honesty, we really need to retcon this. No way clandonia is as powerful as he claims to be, and there was too much wankage in general.
Mationbuds
22-09-2006, 07:30
OOC :
Ok all , cool down and lets just restart this in another thread .
Clandonia Prime
22-09-2006, 15:08
OOC: I'm back now, if Blainswille wants to start again he may indeed.