NationStates Jolt Archive


E20 NPC nations (closed RP)

Galveston Bay
12-09-2006, 16:46
This is for the E20 alternate history RP and is for diplomatic activity and other events affecting NPC nations

This is for the E20 alternate history RP and is for diplomatic activity and other events affecting NPC nations

Current NPC nations as of 1909
(potential PC nations at some point)
Imperial China
Bolshevik Party
Netherlands
Belgium
Persia
Peru

NPC countries (not available as PC countries under any circumstance at this point, some will be PC countries later though)
Europe
Switzerland
Andorra
Liechtenstein
San Marino
Monaco
Luxembourg
Montenegro

Africa
Liberia

Caribbean and Central America
Haiti
Dominican Republic
Guatemala
Honduras
Costa Rica
El Salvador

South America
Paraguay
Ecuador
Venezuela
Colombia
Uruguay
Bolivia
Nicaruaga

Asia
Nepal
Afghanistan
Bhutan

Other NPC actors (more show up later)
the Pope
International Red Cross
Kilani
13-09-2006, 17:44
In the case of Sun Yet Sen the government announces that after several weeks of extensive investigation and following new leads, that the case ahs been blown wide open. The perpetrators of the deed were none other then insidious agents of the Imperial Chinese court. Several Chinese, allegedly the perpetrators and spies, are paraded through St. Petersburg and then publicly executed as spies and murderers.

The Russian Duma, in concert with the Tsar, demands that the Chinese government pay reperations and immediately hand over those higher ups in the Chinese court responsible for this horrible transaction of justice and violation of Russia's soverignty.

The Far Eastern Military District begins mobilization and an HQ is transferred from Warsaw.
Whittlesfield
17-09-2006, 13:27
The Greek Gov't puts pressure on Montenegro to mobilise against Albanian forces.
Lesser Ribena
17-09-2006, 18:14
Various nations (those with embassies, pretty much anyone) get word of increasing dissatisifaction against the government in Bolivia. This is largely from the indiginous peoples there, who work under deplorable conditions in the nation's various mineral mines. They lack education, medical care, economic opportunity, or political participation and live on large feudal style estates ruled over by a limited number of land owners. Though they lack political power there are some groups which appear to be gaining status. Having absconded from the estates they live in Bolivia's highlands and rainforests, particularly in the West. They appear to have assistance from some exterior provider who gives them food, currency and even limited numbers of weapons. This exterior source is known to provide these items more readily if a group is anti-Argentinian, a fairly large faction as many of Bolivia's resources go to Argentina and many would prefer them to be spent on Bolivia's social provision.

This group is no threat to the government yet, they view them merely as escaped Indians not worth the bother of recapturing and expect them to die off soon without access to civilisation. The few who are recaptured by local landowners are usually killed in a painful and slow way as a punishment.
Malkyer
17-09-2006, 19:36
This exterior source is known to provide these items more readily if a group is anti-Argentinian, a fairly large faction as many of Bolivia's resources go to Argentina and many would prefer them to be spent on Bolivia's social provision.

This group is no threat to the government yet, they view them merely as escaped Indians not worth the bother of recapturing and expect them to die off soon without access to civilisation.

The Argentine government offers a mountain division to help the Bolivian government hunt down the indigenos. Regardless of the Bolivian reply, a garrison unit is moved from Parana to La Quiaca on the border to prevent any bandits from crossing the border.
Canadstein
17-09-2006, 22:31
Serbia asks Montenegro if they would like to form a union with Serbia. Serbia would help provide defense for Monetenegro if the area is attacked and all Montenegro citizens would have the same as Serbian citizens. Also local laws in Montenegro would still be active.
Koryan
18-09-2006, 02:18
Various nations (those with embassies, pretty much anyone) get word of increasing dissatisifaction against the government in Bolivia. This is largely from the indiginous peoples there, who work under deplorable conditions in the nation's various mineral mines. They lack education, medical care, economic opportunity, or political participation and live on large feudal style estates ruled over by a limited number of land owners. Though they lack political power there are some groups which appear to be gaining status. Having absconded from the estates they live in Bolivia's highlands and rainforests, particularly in the West. They appear to have assistance from some exterior provider who gives them food, currency and even limited numbers of weapons. This exterior source is known to provide these items more readily if a group is anti-Argentinian, a fairly large faction as many of Bolivia's resources go to Argentina and many would prefer them to be spent on Bolivia's social provision.

Brazilian Marines (a Light Infantry Brigade) are ordered to move inland to Campo Grande. No official reason is given but many speculate that the government is afraid that Brazilian natives could be inspired by the Bolivian dissidents.
Samtonia
18-09-2006, 02:44
All European nations who are affected by fighting in the Balkans are invited ny the Norwegian government to attend a summit in Oslo in an attempt to bering peace to the situation. They are informed that both Russia and Germany, the two major belligerents, will be attending and Norway hopes to forge a lasting peace in the region with the help of all involved.

Oslo Conference (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11695486#post11695486)
Sharina
18-09-2006, 08:39
TAG for reference.
Galveston Bay
25-09-2006, 18:13
This is for the E20 alternate history RP and is for diplomatic activity and other events affecting NPC nations

Current NPC nations as of 1909
(potential PC nations at some point)
Chinese warlords
Chile
Peru

NPC countries (not available as PC countries under any circumstance at this point, some will be PC countries later though)
Europe
Switzerland
Andorra
Liechtenstein
San Marino
Monaco
Luxembourg
Montenegro

Africa
Liberia

Caribbean and Central America
Haiti
Dominican Republic
Guatemala
Honduras
Costa Rica
El Salvador

South America
Paraguay
Ecuador
Venezuela
Colombia
Uruguay
Bolivia
Nicaruaga

Asia
Nepal
Afghanistan
Bhutan

Other NPC actors (more show up later)
the Pope
International Red Cross

NPC list updated
Galveston Bay
05-10-2006, 16:38
This is for the E20 alternate history RP and is for diplomatic activity and other events affecting NPC nations

This is for the E20 alternate history RP and is for diplomatic activity and other events affecting NPC nations

Current NPC nations as of 1909
(potential PC nations at some point)
Imperial China
Bolshevik Party
Netherlands
Belgium
Persia
Peru

NPC countries (not available as PC countries under any circumstance at this point, some will be PC countries later though)
Europe
Switzerland
Andorra
Liechtenstein
San Marino
Monaco
Luxembourg
Montenegro

Africa
Liberia

Caribbean and Central America
Haiti
Dominican Republic
Guatemala
Honduras
Costa Rica
El Salvador

South America
Paraguay
Ecuador
Venezuela
Colombia
Uruguay
Bolivia
Nicaruaga

Asia
Nepal
Afghanistan
Bhutan

Other NPC actors (more show up later)
the Pope
International Red Cross


updated
Koryan
11-10-2006, 21:30
OOC: I stumbled across this in the Argentina thread:

Uruguay quietly asks for Brazilian help in the event of Argentine invasion, while Paraguay and Bolivia fail to notice

The Brazilian Government continues it's policy of guaranteeing the minor states protection from Argentine expansion. Brazil is willing to sign a formal pact if Uruguay wishes, but Brazilian troops will not mobilize unless there is proof that Argentina is preparing for war.
Galveston Bay
11-10-2006, 22:01
ooc
meant to post it on the Brazilian thread, so glad you found it Koryan

IC
On March 4, 1911, the Agentine Army crosses the border into Bolivia with 120,000 men (1 infantry corps, 3 light infantry divisions, 3 cavalry divisions)

http://bolivia.america-atlas.com/pictures/bolivia-map.jpg

the small Bolivian Army is caught completely by surprise, and the few detachments on the border flee. By March 15, the Argentine Army has taken Uyuni, Tarija, and Carmiri and threatening Potosi, where the Bolivian Army and various hurriedly organized militias make a stand. (by scrapping together everything, Bolivia has 1 militia corps)

A fierce battle erupts, and although equiped with outdated rifles, poorly disciplined and badly organized, the strong hill top positions enable the Bolivians to inflict 10,000 Argentine casualties before their positions are taken and the Bolivian Army shattered (35,000 casualties, including 5,000 dead, 10,000 captured). The remnant and some remaining militia (essentially the Bolivian Army is now 1 militia brigade) form up at the capital and the Bolivians hope that winter in the high hills and mountains of the Andes will save them.

By the end of April the Argentine Army is forced to halt as supply lines are in tatters as winter snows in the mountains (remember its the Southern Hemisphere, so April is late fall) have paralyzed supply lines. However, Argentina has taken Potosi, Tarija, Chuqusica provinces and the inhabited areas of Santa Cruz province. The battered Bolivian Army is holed up in La Paz and is asking for help from Brazil, Chile, Peru, and anyone else who will listen.

ooc
Argentina has no theater supply unit or headquarters unit, and therefore was not able to continue the attack after the initial battle. In effect, the army is stuck until spring (September at the earliest)
Hosagovinia
11-10-2006, 22:23
Tag.
Galveston Bay
11-10-2006, 22:32
In Bolivia, just before the Argentine Army crosses the border, a coup replaces the old government with another pro Argentine government. An announcement is made that Bolivia will be joining Argentina as a part of that republic in order to realize Bolivar's and San Martin's dream of a unified South America.

However, a few days later as word reaches the capital that the Argentine Army has literally invaded the nation, mobs form in the capital, and when troops are ordered to open fire they change sides, along with many of their officers. The Junta that took power is forced to flee, except those that are caught who are hung in the main square of the capital.

ooc
coup attempt had a 50% chance of successfully taking the country, and then another 50% chance of surviving the news of Argentine entry into the country. Needless to say the second roll did not go well for Argentina.
No Taxes
11-10-2006, 22:38
Peru is greatly disturbed by events in Bolivia and we strongly urge Argentina to back down and make peace with Bolivia so as to prevent a quite unnecessary war. We also offer ourselves as mediators for negotiations between Argentina and Bolivia.
Koryan
11-10-2006, 23:19
Argentine Invasion

As soon as news of the invasion reaches President Fonseca, he orders the Brazilian military into partial mobilization. He sends an ultimatum to Buenos Aires and asks Congress to sign a formal declaration of war should the demands not be met by the deadline.

The last chance for peace - Ultimatum to Argentina (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11794799&postcount=17)

The Bolivian Government is assured that it's borders will be restored as soon as possible and that Brazil has no intention of robbing Bolivia of it's land or allowing Argentina to do the same.

Brazil tells Paraguay and Uruguay not to worry, as the Brazilian military is nearby and will not allow Argentina to plunder them as that imperialistic nation did to it's other neighbor.

OOC: GB, I'll TG my military orders in a bit.
Cylea
12-10-2006, 00:30
OOC: papa teddy isnt happy....

IC: The United States issues stern, public remarks to both Argentina and Brazil concerning their policies. The US, as allies to both nations will be most unhappy should war continue in South America.

Demands to Argentina:
--Army does not attempt to expand from its current positions in Bolivia. Stand your ground.
--Do not antagonize the Brazilians(!!)

Demands to Brazil:
--The ultimatums toward Argentina are completely unreasonable. Whether or not that nation was in the right by moving on Bolivia is independent of whether or not limits on the size of its military are justified.

Demands to both:
Assume a diplomatic way of saying, "dont you DARE go to war against each other." The United States offers to mediate the crisis as a friend to both states...rejection of this offer will not be looked upon particularly well in Washington. Until the crisis is resolved, all aid to Argentina and Brazil in 1911 is immediately halted.
No Taxes
12-10-2006, 00:35
Until the crisis is resolved, all aid to Argentina and Brazil in 1911 is immediately halted.
OOC: Can I get their aid instead?
Koryan
12-10-2006, 00:37
OOC: Can I get their aid instead?

OOC: Dude, I have a river named after the American president. What after you done for a Roosevelt lately?

Edit: And so I don't have to send you another TG and take up space in your inbox, GB, cancel the invasion of Argentina. However, the partial mobilization is still a go and the Brazilian Navy will still patrol the Brazilian coast.
No Taxes
12-10-2006, 00:38
OOC: Dude, I have a river named after the American president. What after you done for a Roosevelt lately?
OOC: I have offered to back him up in times of war and America gets 3 of my resource points, though I was mostly joking.
Galveston Bay
12-10-2006, 00:42
OOC: I have offered to back him up in times of war and America gets 3 of my resource points.

ooc
also the US gave money to Peru not long ago, and it was spent wisely and most importantly, on defensive forces only

IC
Venezulea, Paraguay, Uruguay and Ecuador all condemn the actions of Argentina. As do the Central American nations.

They offer to support the US in brokering a peaceful solution to the situation.
Sharina
12-10-2006, 00:45
Argentina points out to the US that Argentina is not interested in going after Brazil and has no wishes or plans in pursuring a war with Brazil. Argentina is simply acting on Bolivia to protect the Bolivian people from themselves and to protect Argentinians from further acts of terror and atrocities (dating back to 1907) that the Bolivian government has failed to address.

Argentina also strongly emphasizes to the US that Argentina plans to massively improve Bolivia once the conflict is over. Some things on the Argentinian agenda include new farms, aqueducts, hospitals, schools, roads, railroads, enhancing of the Bolivian economy (A production center), and so forth. We do have the best interests of Bolivia at heart, and we shall follow through with the promise to improve Bolivian living standards.

In addition, Argentinian troops have been handing out food, water, and medicines to all Bolivian civilians that the troops have come across. We have discovered that thousands upon thousands of Bolivians were starving, did not have enough medicine, and struggling to live on a day-to-day basis due to the actions of the Bolivian government. It is Argentina's hope that it will be able to remedy these problems. Essentially, the operation is not just a protective one, but a humanitarian one as well.
Koryan
12-10-2006, 00:54
OOC: Chatzy, anyone? And Taxes, I was kidding, too. If you ever need an extra point or two, I'm sure I can spare 'em.
Cylea
12-10-2006, 02:39
OOC: Dude, I have a river named after the American president. What after you done for a Roosevelt lately?

OOC: technically you dont--if I recall that river was named after him following an expedition he took on it that couldnt occur in this timeline b/c he remains president. I of course could be completely wrong though

Argentina points out to the US that Argentina is not interested in going after Brazil and has no wishes or plans in pursuring a war with Brazil. Argentina is simply acting on Bolivia to protect the Bolivian people from themselves and to protect Argentinians from further acts of terror and atrocities (dating back to 1907) that the Bolivian government has failed to address.

Argentina also strongly emphasizes to the US that Argentina plans to massively improve Bolivia once the conflict is over. Some things on the Argentinian agenda include new farms, aqueducts, hospitals, schools, roads, railroads, enhancing of the Bolivian economy (A production center), and so forth. We do have the best interests of Bolivia at heart, and we shall follow through with the promise to improve Bolivian living standards.

In addition, Argentinian troops have been handing out food, water, and medicines to all Bolivian civilians that the troops have come across. We have discovered that thousands upon thousands of Bolivians were starving, did not have enough medicine, and struggling to live on a day-to-day basis due to the actions of the Bolivian government. It is Argentina's hope that it will be able to remedy these problems. Essentially, the operation is not just a protective one, but a humanitarian one as well.

IC: The Brazilians are thanked for their patience and willingness to talk. As for Buenos Aires though, Washington is in no mood to bargain right now. The motives of Argentine action will be decided in talks in Washington that will occur as soon as possible. Attempts at justification before these talks are needless delays. Your troops are not required to leave Bolivia for now, but they ARE required to stand down.
Sharina
12-10-2006, 03:00
IC: The Brazilians are thanked for their patience and willingness to talk. As for Buenos Aires though, Washington is in no mood to bargain right now. The motives of Argentine action will be decided in talks in Washington that will occur as soon as possible. Attempts at justification before these talks are needless delays. Your troops are not required to leave Bolivia for now, but they ARE required to stand down.

IC: Argentina will attend the talks. It should be noted that Argentina has not moved its troops any further since the initial American diplomacy took place, thus we are honoring the American request.

OOC: I didn't realize the US was asking for talks to be held in Washington. And I was under the impression that my IC telegram was a start to the talks, but I shall re-post the issues once the official talks have started.
Galveston Bay
12-10-2006, 05:21
ooc
we will let the rivers name stand, in this time it was named after him in gratitude for the assistance the US gave it recently
[NS]Parthini
12-10-2006, 07:50
SIC: The British Diplomat informs the United States that as a joint-protector of the Monroe Doctrine, it is willing to assist in the peace process, whatever that means (shelling of Buenos Aires, etc.)

OOC: and we need to talk about giving Battlecruisers to Russia...
Cylea
12-10-2006, 15:19
Parthini;11796728']SIC: The British Diplomat informs the United States that as a joint-protector of the Monroe Doctrine, it is willing to assist in the peace process, whatever that means (shelling of Buenos Aires, etc.)

OOC: and we need to talk about giving Battlecruisers to Russia...

The British are informed that their willingness to assist in mediation is most appreciated, and they are welcome to provide an observer at the upcoming Washington Talks if they desire. However, their physical involvement in South America is rather unnecessary at this (or most any conceivable) point. ;)

OOC: take complaints about the BC sale to my thread please.
Cylea
12-10-2006, 16:36
Washington Talks Thread

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11797826#post11797826
Amestria
13-10-2006, 09:48
The Bolivian Army, May/June 1911

The Bolivian forces protecting La Paz manage to cobble together a second militia brigade to help in the defense of the capital. At this point the Bolivian Army is really an amalgamation of surviving militia, former Indian rebels (the rebels have joined with the government to fight the invaders), household troops (glorified bodyguards for the rich elite), and a few surviving regulars...a mere 10,000 men (half of them indigenous), two militia brigades.

Their proficiency level is reasonable however due to experience gained in recent and past fighting.

(OOC Note: All information from GB)
Koryan
13-10-2006, 21:57
The Brazilian commander in Rio Branco contacts the Bolivian commander at La Paz and tells him that if Argentina resumes the offensive, his forces (2 Light Infantry Divisions) will be more than willing to help defend La Paz if they can reach it in time. If they feel that Brazilian forces won't reach the city in time, Bolivian citizens can also flee northwards where the Brazilian Army will be more able to defend them.
Amestria
13-10-2006, 22:29
The Brazilian commander in Rio Branco contacts the Bolivian commander at La Paz and tells him that if Argentina resumes the offensive, his forces (2 Light Infantry Divisions) will be more than willing to help defend La Paz if they can reach it in time. If they feel that Brazilian forces won't reach the city in time, Bolivian citizens can also flee northwards where the Brazilian Army will be more able to defend them.

The Bolivian Commander at La Paz is Provisional President Ismael Montes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ismael_Montes), a former President (1904 to 1909), experienced General, Liberal Party leader, and leading member of the present military junta that controls the capital. In his reply to the Brazilian commander in Rio Branco Montes makes clear his belief in the necessity of defending the capital, advises that the Brazilians get ready to move out, and asks if Brazil can supply the Bolivian army with more up to date weapons (ooc: points).
Amestria
14-10-2006, 20:40
List of Notable Revolutionary Groups, Independence Movements, and Terrorist Organizations

The Russian Empire

The Russian Social-Democratic Labor Party (Bolshevik): A newly formed Marxist Revolutionary Party recently split off from the various Menshevik factions of the Russian Social-Democratic Labor Party following failed reunification attempts. This Party, although obscure at present, shall possibly have a dramatic effect upon the progression of the 20th century. At the start of 1911 The Bolsheviks oppose the war, considering it simply a conflict between the German and Russian bourgeois and it is a matter of indifference which one of them wins (to them nationalism being just one of the tools used to divide the world proletariat). After their respective irreconcilable differences with the Mensheviks (who have rallied to the defense of the Russian State) become clear the Bolsheviks organize a Bolshevik-only Zurich Party Conference and formally expel the Mensheviks and other liberals from the party, labeling them bourgeois. Now the Bolshevik leadership begins reorganizing itself, making plans, and waiting to see how the situation in Eastern Europe in general and Russia in particular develops.

The Bolsheviks believe in organizing the party in a strongly centralized hierarchy that shall overthrow the Traditional Russian State and achieve power. Although the Bolsheviks are not completely monolithic, they are characterized by a rigid adherence to the leadership of the central committee, based on the notion of democratic centralism.

Note: Russia at this stage has two Russian Social-Democratic Labor Parties, one run by the Mensheviks (moderate Socialists, which support’s the Russian State and the war effort) and the other by the Bolsheviks (the hard-line revolutionary Marxists who oppose the war and seek to overturn the Russian State).

(ooc: GB, the location of the Bolshevik party leadership, the Bolshevik party income/budget, how those points are being spent by the party, and how many Bolshevik cells exist in Russia all have to be determined.)

Ukrainian Nationalists and Anarchists: Ukraine has more then a few people with Nationalist or Anarchist sympathies, the later of which was engaged in robberies, extortions, and the killing of wealthy merchants and policemen during the 1905 Revolution. The most significant Ukrainian anarchist is Nestor Ivanovich Makhno (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nestor_Makhno), who is presently enjoying an all expense paid stay at Moscow’s Butyrskaya prison (if Russia has a revolution he will likely be released and go on to cause problems for whoever controls the Ukraine). At present both the Nationalists and the Anarchists are insignificant (nothing of military consequence) and neither care for the Russians or the Coalition.


The Austria Hungarian Empire (excepting Galicia)

Mlada Bosna: a militant Bosnian Serb nationalist group (the one that in RL took out the Franz Ferdinand with the Black Hands help) working to separate Bosnia from the Austrian-Hungarian Empire and join with their fellow Serbs in a Greater Serbia.

Unification or Death (unofficially known as the Black Hand): In 1911, differences between the two main groups of the Narodna Odbrana (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narodna_Odbrana)--political leaders of the Radical Party and military officers—arise. The political leaders prefer a more passive approach for the time being, including more peaceful relations with Austria and concentrating on strengthening Serbia for future struggle, but some of the military officers grow impatient with the more moderate Radical policies (particularly as war between Russia and Austria-Hungry approaches and ultimately arrives). Consequently, the more zealous members of the Narodna Odbrana start a new secret society, and the Black Hand is founded.

The group encompasses a range of ideological outlooks, from conspiratorially-minded army officers to idealistic youths, sometimes tending towards republicanism, despite the acquisition of nationalistic royal circles in its activities (the movement's leader, Col. Dragutin Dimitrijević (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragutin_Dimitrijevi%C4%87) or "Apis", was instrumental in the June 1903 coup which brought King Petar Karađorđević to the Serbian throne following 45 years of rule by the rival Obrenović dynasty).

The purpose of the group is to recruit and train partisans for a possible war between Serbia and Austria and help their fellow Slavs in Russia. Unification or Death begins spreading anti-Austrian propaganda while organizing spies and saboteurs to operate within the Austrian-Hungarian Empire's provinces.

(ooc: GB, the effect this group has on Austrian-Hungarian Stability, Serbian Intelligence gathering, and any bonuses to Russian Intelligence gathering needs to be determined.)


Russian Poland and Austrian Galicia

The Polish Socialist Party: Led by Józef Piłsudski (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%B3zef_Pi%C5%82sudski) (who is presently in Galicia) Piłsudski views the Russian Empire as the most formidable obstacle to Polish independence so he and the PSP will initially side with the Coalition if the Austrian-Hungarian Empire sees fit to create any Polish Legions (ooc: which in RL provided the Austrian-Hungarian Army approximately 25 000 soldiers, roughly an all Polish light infantry division), however he is first and foremost a Polish Nationalist so his long term loyalty is doubtful.

Narodowa Demokracja (National Democrats, also called Endecja): A Polish right-wing political movement that believes Polish independence will not be won on the battlefield but through education and culture. It’s most important founder and ideologue is the anti-Semitic Social Darwinist Roman Dmowski (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Dmowski), who is presently a member of the Russian Dumas and President of its Polish Club. Dmowski feels that a strong Russia is Poland's best protection, and best chance for reuniting all Polish territories under one rule as he feels a suddenly independent Poland would be swiftly dominated by Germany. In his view the Russian policy of Russification is impossible against Poles, while the Germans have been far more successful in their Germanisation (as they in his view have a more developed state and stronger social organization). Russia thus can form the Legion Puławski (ooc: probably a brigade or division sized all Polish light infantry unit).

The Polish Socialist Party and Narodowa Demokracja are violently opposed to each other, the PSP having led revolts in Russian Poland and the Narodowa Demokracja having aided the Russians in crushing those revolts. It is in many ways a miniature civil war.


The Ottoman Empire (excepting Armenia)

Although the Ottomans are at present neutral, the country is right next door to the war and brimming with various agitators.

Jöntürkler (The Young Turks): An authoritarian, constitutionalist, progressive, partisan, Turkish Nationalist movement/political faction that seeks to take control of the Ottoman government and implement plans to bring about their vision for a stronger more Turkish Empire with a highly centralized State.

(ooc: This is a borderline group. Although they are at present a peaceful faction competing for power in the Ottoman State, the Young Turks did originate from the secret societies of progressive university students and military cadets, they were involved in revolutionary activity, and in RL they did launch a coup in 1913.)


Ottoman Armenia

The following are Armenian Nationalist Parties seeking to create an independent Armenian State: Hentchak (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hnchakian), the Armenakan party (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenakan), and Hay Heghapokhakan Dashnaktsutiun (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Revolutionary_Federation) (The Armenian Revolutionary Federation).


The Republic of France

(ooc: although France is neutral this is posted for the players benefit so as to keep him fully informed as to the situation in Europe.)

Action Française: A French Monarchist anti-Semitic counter-revolutionary movement that seeks to restore the Monarchy, reverse the separation of Church and State implemented by the Third Republic, and turn back all progress made in France since the Enlightenment It ultimately aims to achieve a restoration by means of a coup d'état, probably involving a transitional authoritarian government. Its principal ideologist is Charles Maurras. Although it is far too weak at present to successfully overturn the Third Republic, it may under the right circumstances come to play a more significant role.

(ooc: They really have no hope of taking power unless France loses a major war and the Third Republic is thus discredited.)
Whittlesfield
15-10-2006, 14:06
Greece contacts Montenegro and Serbia with a view to developing closer ties with fellow Orthodox countries.
[NS]Parthini
16-10-2006, 02:41
In June, 4 Ghurka Brigades quietly form up in Delhi and parade for the Governor-General. The Ghurkas are lauded with confetti and kisses from Indian women as they pass. British officials salute them as they pass, proud to be near the most elite fighting force in the world. That night, the 4 Brigades march Northwest out of town. Only a handful of people know where they are headed.

Several weeks later, news from Kabul arrives. Amanullah Khan had been arrested that night for treason against the Crown. The four Ghurka Brigades had met with the King's cousin Mohammed Nadir Shah and surrounded the city. They then declared that unless Amanullah Khan was brought to them, the city would be taken by storm. Fearing the wrath of a sizeable Ghurka force, the local garrison swiftly surrendered and Amanullah Khan was brought out. He and his son were immediately put under arrest, and Nadir Shah was made King after confirming Protectorate status of Afghanistan.

After a brief trial, Amanullah Khan and his son were convicted of high treason and hung. Three of the four Ghurka Brigades returned to India with the head of Amanullah Khan and brought it to the Governor-General, as he wished. The remaining Ghurka Brigade remained to act as "bodyguards," complimented by a staff of British, Indian and South Persian advisors.

OOC: Approved by GB.
[NS]Parthini
21-10-2006, 22:04
Britain announces that it plans to put forth a large aid package for South Persia to assist in the development of the country in preparation for the construction of the Cairo-Calcutta Railroad.

At the same time, South Persia announces that it will begin writing a full constitution based on the Westminster System. However, many are unsure if the idea of a monarch is a good one, following the breakaway from the oppressive Shah. The interim Government also announced that it will be going on National Effort in the following years to assist in the modernization of the country. Many leaders feel that modernization, including Industrilization and closeness with the British Empire will help push Persia forward into glory.
[NS]Parthini
24-10-2006, 05:29
An offer is presented to Oman which includes Oman becoming a Crown Colony, similar to the status of Egypt, where the Sultan remains in his position, excercizing authority, although with the assistance of a Governor-General. In return, Oman is offered the Trucial States and Yemen (minus Aden) to be incorporated into the Sultanate. Also, the Sultanate is promised Dominionhood by 1920.

(Also, does the jump to tech level 3 provide any benefits for S Persia?)
Amestria
24-10-2006, 05:55
Parthini;11848577']An offer is presented to Oman which includes Oman becoming a Crown Colony, similar to the status of Egypt, where the Sultan remains in his position, excercizing authority, although with the assistance of a Governor-General. In return, Oman is offered the Trucial States and Yemen (minus Aden) to be incorporated into the Sultanate. Also, the Sultanate is promised Dominionhood by 1920.

The Sultan of Oman, Sayyid Faisal bin Turki (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/26/Faysal_bin_Turki.jpg), his country already a British protectorate and on the edge of a tribal rebellion over his perceived dependence on British advisers (and past humiliations by Britain that severely weakened his authority) politely rejects the UK's offer that the Sultanate of Oman surrender further sovereignty and once again asks for permission to abdicate in favor of his eldest son, Taimur bin Faisal.

Responsibility for the capital, Muscat, since 1903 has been delegated to Said ibn Muhammad Al Said, while affairs of the interior have fallen under the control of Sulayman ibn Suwaylim, an ex-slave. British agents report that the Sultan's control over the interior is rapidly deteriorating.

The Trucial Sheikhs meanwhile are neither happy nor amused when they get wind of the British offer to the Oman Sultanate and make it absolutely clear to the British that they will not willingly go along with any such territorial scheme (as it would result in the end of their Sheikhdoms).
Koryan
24-10-2006, 21:30
Brazilian ambassadors quietly inform the Paraguayan government that if they wish to reclaim the land lost to Argentina during the War of the Triple Alliance, Brazil will recognize the new border. If Argentine forces enter the reclaimed territory (which is doubtful due to the condition of their country), Brazilian forces will "remove" them. The Paraguayan leaders are reminded that this could be the last chance to take back their territory from the imperialistic Argentina without bloodshed.
Galveston Bay
27-10-2006, 00:08
Mexico
1910 - 1912
President for Life Diaz is toppled by liberal and socialist groups supporting Madero. He is in turned toppled and executed by conservative groups and the military lead by Huerta

Opposition leaders flee the country or go underground and prepare to resist

more information beginning here
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11784049&postcount=52
[NS]Parthini
27-10-2006, 06:48
Britain assures the Trucial Sheikdoms that Britain has absolutely no intent of breaking up their lands and handing over their lands to another power, and that any rumours they have heard otherwise are simply untrue.

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Sultan Faysal bin Turki is allowed to abdicate if he feels so compelled to only if his son signs a treaty making Oman a Protectorate of Britain, assuring Oman's independance in exchange for Oman letting Britain handle the foreign Affairs of Oman.

Also, Britain offers financial relief for Oman of 1 point to assist in paying off debts and creating infrastructure for the coastal areas.

OOC: What would upgrading infrastructure for Oman do and how much would it cost?
Amestria
27-10-2006, 23:32
Bolivia, Late 1911 to early 1912

In the aftermath of Argentina’s withdrawal from Bolivia Provisional President Ismael Montes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ismael_Montes) quickly organizes a new Presidential election to cement his hold on power. Considered a hero by many for staring down the Argentineans, Montes is easily reelected (this being his second elected term as President). However, his running for a second term is taboo in the largely personalistic world of Bolivian politics. This earns him a number of enemies and brings about the defection of many Liberals, but nothing immediately comes of it.

Meanwhile the majority of the anti-Argentinean Indian rebels previously supported by Chile have taken up positions in the newly reconstituted Bolivian Army and only a few die hard groups return to the Western Jungle to continue their revolutionary campaign of annoying the Bolivian land-owning elite.
[NS]Parthini
16-11-2006, 06:31
OOC: I remember Argentina saying during the Rio Plata War that if I helped them rebuild their army (10 points) that they would relinquish claims on the Falklands. That still a deal?
Galveston Bay
16-11-2006, 08:25
Parthini;11954239']OOC: I remember Argentina saying during the Rio Plata War that if I helped them rebuild their army (10 points) that they would relinquish claims on the Falklands. That still a deal?

ooc
What aid has actually been provided so far?
Galveston Bay
16-11-2006, 08:33
March 1913 Oman
A revolt breaks out in the tribal areas in the interior of Oman, and the Sultan quickly finds that aside from the coastal cities, he has lost control of the country.

With Alliance forces in the Mideast and Coalition forces in the Indian Ocean, he has little choice but to appeal to the British for help.

Then the poor old man dies (possibly of shame according to many Omanis) and his son takes over. But the request for help has already been given and he has little choice but to hope the British do indeed help.
[NS]Parthini
17-11-2006, 03:26
ooc
What aid has actually been provided so far?

None, b/c I made the offer last year.
Galveston Bay
17-11-2006, 03:34
Parthini;11958409']None, b/c I made the offer last year.

Argentina asks the British to please restate their offer, as things have been hectic for the government of Argentina this year, and the President is an old man, and sometimes gets tired and forgetful
[NS]Parthini
17-11-2006, 03:34
March 1913 Oman
A revolt breaks out in the tribal areas in the interior of Oman, and the Sultan quickly finds that aside from the coastal cities, he has lost control of the country.

With Alliance forces in the Mideast and Coalition forces in the Indian Ocean, he has little choice but to appeal to the British for help.

Then the poor old man dies (possibly of shame according to many Omanis) and his son takes over. But the request for help has already been given and he has little choice but to hope the British do indeed help.

Parliament, citing various treaties and troubles brewing in the region enough, agrees and sends a Division of Cavalry and a Brigade of Marines to Oman to help quell the rebellion. Britain also continues to send aid to the beleaguered Sultan.
Kilani
30-11-2006, 08:19
Russia extends an offer on non-aggression pacts to the Baltic States and Poland. They will last twenty years and have to be renewed at said time.The terms are as follows:

-None of the countries signing the pact will make war on the other.
-None of the countries sighing the pact will allow foriegn troops through their country to attack the other.
-This treaty shall be renewed in twenty years.

Elsewhere, Russia puts pressure on the Basran government to allow the Russians to build a naval base at Basra. They are offered rent for the base (.5 of a point per year) and are aslo told future economic assistance depends on their response to this offer. It is also pointed out that Russian troops are currently providing for thier security.

And in early 1914, the government of the Dominion of the Ukraine is invited to Petrograd to discuss matters of state with the Council and to improve relations after the war. They are assured that Russia will work with the Ukranians towards a better future.
Galveston Bay
30-11-2006, 08:34
Russia extends an offer on non-aggression pacts to the Baltic States and Poland. They will last twenty years and have to be renewed at said time.The terms are as follows:

-None of the countries signing the pact will make war on the other.
-None of the countries sighing the pact will allow foriegn troops through their country to attack the other.
-This treaty shall be renewed in twenty years.

Elsewhere, Russia puts pressure on the Basran government to allow the Russians to build a naval base at Basra. They are offered rent for the base (.5 of a point per year) and are aslo told future economic assistance depends on their response to this offer. It is also pointed out that Russian troops are currently providing for thier security.

And in early 1914, the government of the Dominion of the Ukraine is invited to Petrograd to discuss matters of state with the Council and to improve relations after the war. They are assured that Russia will work with the Ukranians towards a better future.

Poles and Balts politely reply that they must consult with Germany first.
Amestria
30-11-2006, 08:45
OOC: Here is the present structure/leadership of each of the new Middle Eastern States.

IC:

The Islamic Kingdom of Kurdistan (Independent Russian Ally)

Shaykh Mahmud Barzanji (http://www.bitsofnews.com/images/graphics/sheikmahmud.jpg), one of the leading members of the prominent Barzanji Family and notable religious leader who fought on the side of the Alliance against the Ottomans (it should be assumed he was one of the commanders of the Kurdish Militia) declares himself King. His full title is King Mahmud Barzanji, Ruler of all Kurdistan.


The Kingdom of Baghdad (Russian Protectorate/Puppet)

The young (14-15 year old) Mohammad Hassan Mirza (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Hassan_Mirza), son of Persian Shah Mohammad Ali Qajar, has been married to an equally young local girl from a suitable Sunni Arab noble family and installed as the (puppet) King of Baghdad. Qajar family rule is thus expands from Persia to Baghdad.


The Kingdom of Basra

Basra is presently ruled by an aristocratic oligarchic council headed by the Nakib, or Marshal of the Nobility.


The Kingdom of Armenia (Russian Protectorate)

A suitable Russian or Armenian noble (perhaps someone of a noble Russian/Armenian Family) has been installed as King and “rules” with the assistance of an elected Parliament modeled after the Russian Duma. Russian troops reside in Armenia to "protect it."
Amestria
01-12-2006, 11:17
The Republic of Albania, January 1912 to January 1914

Despite independence from the Ottoman Empire, Republicanism, and attempts at modernization, most of Albania remained socially unchanged. In the south local government remained firmly under the control of mayoral "beys," wealthy but largely illiterate tribal elites that exploited their peasants (who were bound to the land in a status comparable to serfdom), while in the North various noble and newly emerging industrialist families collaborated to maintain a vice like grip on power.

Unrest among the tribal leadership first began during the Balkan Wars, when "President" Turkhan Pasha (many referred to him as King as they had no idea what the word President meant) signed a separate peace treaty with Greece rather then seek to extract proper revenge for the unprovoked invasion (criticized by many as weak). South Albania, which had been invaded by Greece, was the most unhappy. The unrest continued to build over a number of domestic issues such as the failure to properly divide up government revenue among the tribes, Greece's funding of Hellenic partisan groups in Southern Albania and Albanian Macedonia, and, in 1912, Turkhan Pasha's refusal to enter the Great War against Greece.

Opposition rapidly collected around the sinister and beguiling Essad Pasha Toptani, a man widely feared and hated by his countrymen. He had worked variously for the Ottomans, for the Montenegrins (who at one point had designs on the North of Albania), the Serbs (who had designs on Kosovo), and for the Italians (who designs on the coasts), but always for himself. It is said that while he spoke no European language properly, he knew the value of money in all of them.

With the backing of the conservative elite Essad was able to get himself appointed Defense Minister and rapidly maneuver Albania into the war. The quick victory, loot, territorial gains, and humiliation of Greece cemented Essad's control over the faction ridden (but modern) military.


The Republic of Albania, July 1914

In July 1914 Essad and his supporters finally launch a coup. President Turkhan Pasha and his immediate family are all brutally murdered. The Parliament, at gun point, proclaims Essad King of Albania "by the will of the people."

King Essad announces that a "new era for Albania has dawned," but it quickly becomes clear that Essad’s government is handicapped as he scarcely dares to set foot outside his improvised Palace for fear of assassination by one of his many enemies (ooc: in some parts of Albania one in five die as the result of a blood feud).

The new Essad regime is universally opposed by Albania's Republicans. Surviving Republican leaders flee the country, with Luigj Gurakuqi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luigj_Gurakuqi) seeking shelter across the Sea in Italy and the Orthodox Bishop Fan S. Noli (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fan_S._Noli) seeking asylum and support for his cause in America.

OOC: Me and GB talked this over and decided that this was the best way to deal with the obligatory change in government brought about by the Albanian player leaving. Early 20th century Albania was a very unstable place.
Abbassia
01-12-2006, 18:53
The Bulgarian Government has declared itself to be Outraged to the Chaos and Instability which has transpired in Albania and announces that it will intervening on behalf of the Government to maintain law and order in these turbulant times.

OOC: 1 Police Unit supported by 1 Mountain Division and 1 Light Infantry Brigade is orderd to pass through Macedonia to Albania and establish order.
Sukiaida
01-12-2006, 19:13
Spain sees this as once again the Balkans being deluded into civil war with eachother, and hopes the other European (Civilized) nations will let this one peter out without any major concerns.
Galveston Bay
01-12-2006, 19:21
The Bulgarian Government has declared itself to be Outraged to the Chaos and Instability which has transpired in Albania and announces that it will intervening on behalf of the Government to maintain law and order in these turbulant times.

OOC: 1 Police Unit supported by 1 Mountain Division and 1 Light Infantry Brigade is orderd to pass through Macedonia to Albania and establish order.

The Bulgarian Army looks at the situation and requests the government seriously consider whether it is worth fighting someone elses civil war. Macedonia also urges the Bulgarians to wait and see what happens first.

ooc
Bulgarians and Macedonia, both very familiar with clan conflict and blood feud, figure that it will resolve itself, and failing that, let them fight a while, shed some blood and then when they are tired, then would be the time to intervene.
Galveston Bay
01-12-2006, 19:24
In 1914, with brand new nations of their own, Kurdish and Armenian locals begin fighting over border areas and where they are mixed together, shared land. Neither government is supporting conflict, it just develops on its own from centuries of tensions.

Neither government is really in a position to stop it either at the moment.

Ethnic Kurds and Turks also fight in areas where they are mixed together, and ethnic Kurds and Persians also get into serious low level conflicts.

In short, the governments control only about half of their countries, and outside of those areas, things are a bit more medieval.
Abbassia
01-12-2006, 19:32
The Bulgarian Army looks at the situation and requests the government seriously consider whether it is worth fighting someone elses civil war. Macedonia also urges the Bulgarians to wait and see what happens first.

ooc
Bulgarians and Macedonia, both very familiar with clan conflict and blood feud, figure that it will resolve itself, and failing that, let them fight a while, shed some blood and then when they are tired, then would be the time to intervene.

Indeed, Though option is still kept open and the troops remain on alert, the order intervene is put on hold for now.

The various factions of the Albanian Government are informed that should they formally request it then the Bulgarian Army will intervene. Untill then the Bulgarian Expedition shall keep watch on the border.
Kilani
01-12-2006, 19:50
In 1914, with brand new nations of their own, Kurdish and Armenian locals begin fighting over border areas and where they are mixed together, shared land. Neither government is supporting conflict, it just develops on its own from centuries of tensions.

Neither government is really in a position to stop it either at the moment.

Ethnic Kurds and Turks also fight in areas where they are mixed together, and ethnic Kurds and Persians also get into serious low level conflicts.

In short, the governments control only about half of their countries, and outside of those areas, things are a bit more medieval.

The Russians urge calm and try to get a court system up and running so people can address grievances. The police unit in Baghdad is shifted to the Armenian-Kurdish border region to try and restore some semblance of order.
Ottoman Khaif
02-12-2006, 00:54
Ethnic Kurds and Turks also fight in areas where they are mixed together, and ethnic Kurds and Persians also get into serious low level conflicts.



Is this mainly in Kurdistan, or in Turkey also
Kordo
02-12-2006, 00:59
The Austro-Hungarian Empire approaches Montenegro about taking large amounts of refugees (ooc: Serbs for you guys who can’t figure that out) in return for economic aid. The Montenegro gov't is assured that these refugees would not be a large burden on the economy (ooc: none of the 'refugees' will be striped of their possesions before leaving). Austria-Hungary also requests a mutual defense pact. In return, the AHE will provide aid as well as allow Montenegro access to AHE weapons and shipyards.
Kilani
02-12-2006, 00:59
In an effort to keep the peace, the Russian garrison freed up from Basra is shifted to the Kurdish/Persian border area.
Galveston Bay
02-12-2006, 01:10
The Austro-Hungarian Empire approaches Montenegro about taking large amounts of refugees (ooc: Serbs for you guys who can’t figure that out) in return for economic aid. The Montenegro gov't is assured that these refugees would not be a large burden on the economy (ooc: none of the 'refugees' will be striped of their possesions before leaving). Austria-Hungary also requests a mutual defense pact. In return, the AHE will provide aid as well as allow Montenegro access to AHE weapons and shipyards.


Realizing that their little country only continues to exist because Austria lets it, Montenegro agrees to Austrian suggestions.

secret IC
although some note the fact that more Serbs means a larger army of liberation some day
Amestria
02-12-2006, 01:26
The Kingdom of Macedonia, 1914

Macedonia is presently ruled by Prince Wilhelm of Wied, now King Wilhelm of Macedonia, a member of the Prussian royal family (ooc: who in RL became King of Albania around this exact same time, so he would have been the logical choice for the German/Austro-Hungarian dominated Coalition). He is a feeble stick, devoid of energy or tact or manners, wholly ignorant of the country, and utterly dependent upon his advisers.
Kordo
02-12-2006, 01:56
The Austro-Hungarian Empire also pressures Albania to take a similar deal as offered to Montenegro, but also requests the right to use Albania naval bases.
Rodenka
02-12-2006, 07:41
Indeed, Though option is still kept open and the troops remain on alert, the order intervene is put on hold for now.

The various factions of the Albanian Government are informed that should they formally request it then the Bulgarian Army will intervene. Untill then the Bulgarian Expedition shall keep watch on the border.

The government of Rumania sincerely hopes that the Bulgarian government will respect the sacred status of sovereignty that it has been so proudly trumpeting during and since the end of the war.

What government the Albanians have is of no concern to the Bulgarians or to the Rumanians for that matter.
Galveston Bay
02-12-2006, 09:47
The Austro-Hungarian Empire also pressures Albania to take a similar deal as offered to Montenegro, but also requests the right to use Albania naval bases.

The Austrian Embassy reports that the Albanian government is having difficulties reaching a decision. Although the basing idea is acceptable, accepting Serbs into Albania isn't.
Abbassia
02-12-2006, 11:37
The government of Rumania sincerely hopes that the Bulgarian government will respect the sacred status of sovereignty that it has been so proudly trumpeting during and since the end of the war.

What government the Albanians have is of no concern to the Bulgarians or to the Rumanians for that matter.

Which is why the Government of Bulgaria is wondering why the Rumanians are sending this message in the first place, at any rate the Rumanian message is ignored and support for Albania's return to stability is re-affirmed as the Governement re-affirms that it will keep a close eye on the situation and will only move if required to.


The Kingdom of Macedonia, 1914

Macedonia is presently ruled by Prince Wilhelm of Wied, now King Wilhelm of Macedonia, a member of the Prussian royal family (ooc: who in RL became King of Albania around this exact same time, so he would have been the logical choice for the German/Austro-Hungarian dominated Coalition). He is a feeble stick, devoid of energy or tact or manners, wholly ignorant of the country, and utterly dependent upon his advisers.

OOC: Couldn't a Bulgarian Prince get the position?
Amestria
02-12-2006, 20:57
OOC: Couldn't a Bulgarian Prince get the position?

OOC: The Prussian dominated German Empire, formerly the Holy Roman Empire and, later, the Germanic Confederation, has a lot of spare Kings, princes, and royalty, all of which Germany has been contributing to Europe's various princely states for centuries. Presently the Royal Families of Bulgaria, Rumania, and Greece are all (on the male side at least) of Germanic descent, and, for that matter, the Royal Families of Imperial Russia, England, Austria-Hungry, and Belgium all have some form of Germanic ancestry. Anastasia, the future Empress of Russia, had a German mother. The Hanoverian line of British Royalty (which included Queen Victoria) were German, in fact the first two Kings could not even speak proper English.

King George V for instance, Britain’s present King, is a member of the German House of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha (in RL it was changed to Windsor in 1917 during World War I to appease anti-German sentiment, as England was not involved in the Great War that has not happened and they are still known as the House of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha).

So you see, Prince Wilhelm of Wied of is the most logical choice to become King of what is the newly created and ultimately insignificant Kingdom of Macedonia (in RL he was made king of Albania in 1914, so the timing is exact, the Balkan country just happens to be different).
Rodenka
02-12-2006, 21:13
Which is why the Government of Bulgaria is wondering why the Rumanians are sending this message in the first place, at any rate the Rumanian message is ignored and support for Albania's return to stability is re-affirmed as the Governement re-affirms that it will keep a close eye on the situation and will only move if required to.


The Rumanian government reminds the Bulgarians that they really have no legal justification for interfering in the internal affairs of the Albanians. They are not, after all, policemen. Also, Bulgarian troops moving into Albania through Macedonia would effectively be a declaration of war on both those nations, as neither has given permission for Bulgarian troops to enter.
Galveston Bay
03-12-2006, 01:58
OOC: The Prussian dominated German Empire, formerly the Holy Roman Empire and, later, the Germanic Confederation, has a lot of spare Kings, princes, and royalty, all of which Germany has been contributing to Europe's various princely states for centuries. Presently the Royal Families of Bulgaria, Rumania, and Greece are all (on the male side at least) of Germanic descent, and, for that matter, the Royal Families of Imperial Russia, England, Austria-Hungry, and Belgium all have some form of Germanic ancestry. Anastasia, the future Empress of Russia, had a German mother. The Hanoverian line of British Royalty (which included Queen Victoria) were German, in fact the first two Kings could not even speak proper English.

King George V for instance, Britain’s present King, is a member of the German House of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha (in RL it was changed to Windsor in 1917 during World War I to appease anti-German sentiment, as England was not involved in the Great War that has not happened and they are still known as the House of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha).

So you see, Prince Wilhelm of Wied of is the most logical choice to become King of what is the newly created and ultimately insignificant Kingdom of Macedonia (in RL he was made king of Albania in 1914, so the timing is exact, the Balkan country just happens to be different).

ooc
in addition, the Macedonians wouldn't want to be too obviously a tool of Bulgaria, although its almost certain (don't remember for sure) the Bulgarian Royal family is related to Wilheml in any event
Amestria
03-12-2006, 03:34
OOC: As of May 1914 Sultan Abdul Mejid II (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdul_Mejid_II) (presently sitting in his Palace in Istanbul), the Caliph, and the Ottoman Royal Family are an NPC.
Ottoman Khaif
03-12-2006, 04:27
OOC: As of May 1914 Sultan Abdul Mejid II (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdul_Mejid_II) (presently sitting in his Palace in Istanbul), the Caliph, and the Ottoman Royal Family are an NPC.

OOC: The office of Sultan has been disband, just he is simple known as Caliph Abdual Mejid II.
Malkyer
03-12-2006, 06:26
A summit (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12028327&postcount=1) is called in Jerusalem by the French government in late 1914. Russia, Italy, Imperial China, Syria, Kurdistan, Armenia, the Persian Empire, and Baghdad are invited to attend.

OOC:
At some point we will need to know what the Syrians, Kurds, Armenians, and Persians and Sunnis in Baghdad think about the summit (not now, as nothing has been discussed as of yet). I am assuming that the Syrians will follow the French (as they are a protectorate of mine), and the Kurds, Armenians, Persians, and Sunnis will follow Russia (as they are allied to/protectorates of Russia). However, I could be wrong, depending on what comes up.
Abbassia
03-12-2006, 09:19
The Rumanian government reminds the Bulgarians that they really have no legal justification for interfering in the internal affairs of the Albanians. They are not, after all, policemen. Also, Bulgarian troops moving into Albania through Macedonia would effectively be a declaration of war on both those nations, as neither has given permission for Bulgarian troops to enter.

Repeated Insignifcant and Ignorant Rumanian Responses are again ignored by Bulgaria.
Kordo
03-12-2006, 17:00
Repeated Insignifcant and Ignorant Rumanian Responses are again ignored by Bulgaria.

The Bulgarians are quietly told to settle down. Albania is certainly not worth getting involved with.
Abbassia
03-12-2006, 18:02
OOC: Settle what down? IC I am saying that all Rumanian Responses are being Ignored (ie: not being responded to) also indicated is the attitude which the Bulgarian Government recives these messages but is not formally announced.
Amestria
03-12-2006, 18:35
OOC: Settle what down? IC I am saying that all Rumanian Responses are being Ignored (ie: not being responded to) also indicated is the attitude which the Bulgarian Government recives these messages but is not formally announced.

OOC: Repeatedly snubbing another nation’s diplomats/government is a deliberate and rather unfriendly act.
Safehaven2
03-12-2006, 18:37
Russia extends an offer on non-aggression pacts to the Baltic States and Poland. They will last twenty years and have to be renewed at said time.The terms are as follows:

-None of the countries signing the pact will make war on the other.
-None of the countries sighing the pact will allow foriegn troops through their country to attack the other.
-This treaty shall be renewed in twenty years.



Germany OK's the treatylong as this point is added.


-None of the countries sighing the pact will allow foreign troops through their country to attack the other or their neighbors.
Kilani
03-12-2006, 22:58
Russia agrees to this clause and signs the NAP into effect as of December 1914.

OOC: What do the Balts and Poles decide?
Galveston Bay
04-12-2006, 21:41
Germany OK's the treatylong as this point is added.


-None of the countries sighing the pact will allow foreign troops through their country to attack the other or their neighbors.

Poland and the Baltic Union agree to sign the treaty.

Meanwhile, leaders in the Ukraine meet with Moscow to see if a constructive dialogue can be found. Talks continue throughout 1914 and into 1915 as the Ukrainians wait to see specifically what is being proposed by the Russians, then clear it with the Germans (their liberators in their view, unofficially and secretly of course). Suspecious of Russian offers, after centuries of Russian control, the Ukrainians are wary
Galveston Bay
04-12-2006, 21:42
OOC: Repeatedly snubbing another nation’s diplomats/government is a deliberate and rather unfriendly act.

ooc
it happens, read about how the Germans were treated at Versailles and the talks between the US and North Vietnam and Allies and North Korea. Its provactive, but depends on whats being discussed.

and of course, how much leverage one side has over the other
Kilani
04-12-2006, 21:48
Ukraine is offered inclusion into the new string of public universites and hospitals being planned in all major Russian cities (OOC: essentially paying for Level III social services in Kieve, Denprotvosk, Odessa, etc), as well as offered aid in future years to help repair war damage and begin construction on a Ukranian merchant marine starting in either 1916 or 1917, once Russia has finished recovering from the war themselves.

In addition, the Ukranains are told that they may send a representative to the Council of State and elect other represantatives to the Duma in order to give Ukraine a voice in the central Russian government.

Stolypin hints to the Ukranian representatives that he will be revealing some sort of plan for Russia's economy for the next few years and that he hopes the Ukraine will join Russia as friends in any such endeavor.
Safehaven2
04-12-2006, 22:03
then clear it with the Germans (their liberators in their view, unofficially and secretly of course). Suspecious of Russian offers, after centuries of Russian control, the Ukrainians are wary

OOC: Based on that...

IC: Germany quietly informs the Ukrainians that there is no point in accepting this Russian aid. The Ukraine is more than rich enough to support itself, being one of the richest and most fertile area's in Europe, it has the potential to be an economic powerhouse. Also pointed out is that spare Ukrainian funds(points) go to the Russian government anyway, so in effect Russia would be using Ukrainian money as Russian aid to the Ukraine. Russia is just trying to make the Ukrainian state and people more dependent on Russia, the fact that the Ukraine is so close to independence scares Russia and they are trying to pull the Ukraine backwards. The Ukraine is also reasured that Germany's promise to always defend the Ukraine from any corner still stands, and that if the Ukraine really does need economic assistance Germany is more than willing to provide what it needs. It is also noted that there are nations out there like America and Britain who are likely willing to offer aid should the Ukraine need it. Nations that do not have personal gain as their real motive behind their aid.
Amestria
05-12-2006, 01:15
The Albanian Civil War, October to December 1914

Fan S. Noli (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fan_S._Noli) and his Republican supporters return to Albania with money, weapons, and various other resources lent to them by the sympathetic Americans and launch a counter coup against King Essad.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12026470&postcount=426

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12026619&postcount=427

Noli and the Republicans rapidly seize control of the port city of Vlore and the surrounding countryside. A self appointed Parliament then meets and declares Noli President of the “Restored Albanian Republic.”

King Essad is gunned down outside his Tirana “palace” by Republican Industrialist (and blood enemy) Avni Rustemi. Essad’s young nephew Zog is duly proclaimed King Zog I (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Zog_I) of Albania by Essad’s remaining supporters and flees to the North to set up an opposing Government. The capital is left a battleground contested by both sides.

Both President Noli and King Zog I sentence each other to death for treason.

Meanwhile three other factions scattered throughout mountainous Eastern Albania and Kosovo each declares themselves the legitimate Government of Albania (ooc: each is nothing more then a collection of tribal warlords or really well organized brigands).

There is a dramatic rise in violence as order breaks down and various individuals/families seek to settle old scores, disputes, and blood feuds.

As Albania disintegrates the Corfu Greeks go into open revolt and declare their intent to seek reunion with Greece. Albanian and Greek partisans start fighting in Southern Albania as the Albanians seek to expel the hated Greeks once and for all. The Greeks on the other side of the border join the fighting to protect their fellow Greeks from “the Albanian barbarians” (ooc: the Greek government is too weak to suppress private raiding along the mountainous frontier). Word of several massacres reaches the international press.
Safehaven2
05-12-2006, 01:23
In Germany, 3 mountain divisions, a heavy infantry corp, a HQ unit and an observation plane unit begin making preparations to enter Albania and secure the strategic Berlin-Badghdad rail line which runs through the country.

Zog is contacted by Germany and offered Germany's backing should he agree to uphold all the treaties signed between Germany and Albania.
Kordo
05-12-2006, 01:23
The Imperium condoms the violence in Albania and promptly moves troops to the border to prevent violence from spilling over. A stern warning to Greece is given warning them not to get involved.
Sukiaida
05-12-2006, 02:36
Spain lets out one long sigh, seeing the Balkans once again explode into killing. Some Spanish nationalists state that it might be better if the entire area were just uninhabitied. Spain itself condemns the violence of Civil War, and states that Civil War only benefits other nations surrounding the fighting nation.
Galveston Bay
05-12-2006, 03:06
In Germany, 3 mountain divisions, a heavy infantry corp, a HQ unit and an observation plane unit begin making preparations to enter Albania and secure the strategic Berlin-Badghdad rail line which runs through the country.

Zog is contacted by Germany and offered Germany's backing should he agree to uphold all the treaties signed between Germany and Albania.

Zog eagerly jumps at the chance to become King and agrees to the German proposal
Whittlesfield
05-12-2006, 22:48
Greece also contacts Zog, and offers to recognise him as the rightful King and ruler of Albania, if Corfu is returned to Greece, and ethnic Greeks are protected, or offered the chance to move to Greece. Monetary aid is also offered to further his cause. (Worth 1 point in 1915, if he accepts).

Meanwhile, Greece reassures the Imperium and Germany, that Greek troops will not move into Albania, without the prior permission of the Germany or the Imperium.

No troops are mobilised, but a Light Cruiser is moved to the coast of Greek Epirus to protect the shipping of all nations from the piracy of Albanian bandits. This ship will not leave Greek territorial waters however.
Kordo
06-12-2006, 00:12
Greece also contacts Zog, and offers to recognise him as the rightful King and ruler of Albania, if Corfu is returned to Greece, and ethnic Greeks are protected, or offered the chance to move to Greece. Monetary aid is also offered to further his cause. (Worth 1 point in 1915, if he accepts).

Meanwhile, Greece reassures the Imperium and Germany, that Greek troops will not move into Albania, without the prior permission of the Germany or the Imperium.

No troops are mobilised, but a Light Cruiser is moved to the coast of Greek Epirus to protect the shipping of all nations from the piracy of Albanian bandits. This ship will not leave Greek territorial waters however.

Greece is quietly told that any involvement on its part outside of patroling its own borders would not be looked on favorably by the Imperium.
Whittlesfield
06-12-2006, 18:07
Greece asks that the Imperium acts to stop the killings of innocent Greeks in Albania.
Abbassia
08-12-2006, 12:48
Seeing the Crises worsening in Albania, the Kingdom authorises the dispatch of Humnitarian Aid (Level 2 Social Services) to the People of Albania, The Bulgarian Aid Workers and Materials shall travel with the German Expedition in order to maintain safety.

A call is made by the Bulgarian Government asking all sides of the Conflict to come into the negotiations table.
Whittlesfield
08-12-2006, 14:51
Greece echos Bulgaria's sentiment that the participants in this conflict should come to the negotiations table, but adds that given the nature of this civil war, perhaps this is unlikely. Perhaps the outside powers who are affected should come to the table instead.

Greece offers to hold talks in Ioaninna with representatives from Bulgaria, Germany, the Imperium, Macedonia, and any Albanian representatives that wish to attend.
Safehaven2
08-12-2006, 21:44
Zog eagerly jumps at the chance to become King and agrees to the German proposal

Germany orders its army to cross into Albania and restore order under the "rightfull" government of Albania, King Zog.(Send a garrison unit as well to garrison the southern countryside)
Kilani
09-12-2006, 00:58
Russia calls for the fighting in Albania to cease and for both the Republicans and King Zog to come to the table. Under the terms of the Russo-Austrian accords, Russia proposes that austria and Russia mediate a settlement.
[NS]Parthini
11-12-2006, 22:20
Members of the Admiralty approach American officials about possibly having a treaty reducing Navies for all of the powers.
Galveston Bay
12-12-2006, 02:06
Parthini;12070274']Members of the Admiralty approach American officials about possibly having a treaty reducing Navies for all of the powers.

Rear Admiral Sims, visiting London on business, urges the British government to wait until AFTER the 1916 election as nothing is likely to be accomplished until after then anyway
Bazalonia
12-12-2006, 05:28
A representation is made to the nation of the Baltic Union that Denmark would, if the Baltic Union wishes too, see an application by the Baltic Union to Join the SRC in a favourable light and would by all means support it's membership application. And they go onto describe the historical links the area has with the current members of the Scandinavian Regional Council that other member nations would also most likely see such an application, should one exist, in a favourable light as well.
Galveston Bay
12-12-2006, 07:12
A representation is made to the nation of the Baltic Union that Denmark would, if the Baltic Union wishes too, see an application by the Baltic Union to Join the SRC in a favourable light and would by all means support it's membership application. And they go onto describe the historical links the area has with the current members of the Scandinavian Regional Council that other member nations would also most likely see such an application, should one exist, in a favourable light as well.

The Balts quietly consult with Germany on this matter
Amestria
12-12-2006, 10:24
OOC: Just to put a face on poor Montenegro...

Montenegro's present ruler is King Nikola I Mirkov Petrović-Njegoš (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8f/King_Nikola_of_Montenegro.jpg), a successful military leader, gifted poet (his historical dramas, poems and ballads hold a recognized place in contemporary Slavic literature), and internationally recognized statesman. He is in effect an actual Warrior Philosopher King. He is also a crafty man with lots of experience in international diplomacy and many connections throughout Europe.

He has five daughters who are or (in the case of the late Ljubica) were married to significant individuals, hence his nickname "the Father-in-law of Europe."

The late Princess Ljubica (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zorka_of_Montenegro) (she died in 1890) was married to Petar Karađorđević, the former King of Serbia (whatever happened to him anyway?).

Princess Anastasia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anastasia_of_Montenegro) (also known as Princess Stana) is married to Grand Duke Nicholas Nicolaevich of Russia, the present Regent.

Princess Milica (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milica_of_Montenegro) is married to Grand Duke Peter Nicolaievich Romanov of Russia, brother of Grand Duke Nicholas Nicolaevich.

Princess Jelena (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elena_of_Montenegro) is presently Queen Elena of Italy, wife of Victor Emmanuel III of Italy.

Princess Anna is married to Prince Franz Joseph of Battenberg.


For the record, Montenegro does have a 50,000 man army (I'm not sure how that translates into actual units game wise, but it is a corps worth of troops) and the King himself should be considered a General Unit.
Whittlesfield
12-12-2006, 13:12
A marriage is proposed between Prince Christopher of Greece and Denmark and Princess Sophia of Montenegro.
Amestria
12-12-2006, 22:15
A marriage is proposed between Prince Christopher of Greece and Denmark and Princess Sophia of Montenegro.

OOC: She died in 1876, the same year she was born, hence why she is not on the list. Needless to say, someone sending her a marriage proposal is therefore impossible.
Koryan
12-12-2006, 22:54
Brazilian ambassadors approach the Colombian government to check the progress of Colombia's first production center. So far, Brazil has contributed 14.6 of the 24 required points and the Senate wants to make sure that most of this is actually going towards bringing Colombia out of the Colonial Age instead of just into some guys' pockets. The ambassadors hint that if corruption is slowing progress too much in Colombia, Paraguay would be much more grateful.
Whittlesfield
13-12-2006, 13:27
OOC: She died in 1876, the same year she was born, hence why she is not on the list. Needless to say, someone sending her a marriage proposal is therefore impossible.

Where did you get that information from? I found out she was born in that year, but I can't find anything about her dying. Could you post some links so perhaps I can find someone for my Prince to marry.
Galveston Bay
13-12-2006, 20:42
OOC: Just to put a face on poor Montenegro...

Montenegro's present ruler is King Nikola I Mirkov Petrović-Njegoš (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8f/King_Nikola_of_Montenegro.jpg), a successful military leader, gifted poet (his historical dramas, poems and ballads hold a recognized place in contemporary Slavic literature), and internationally recognized statesman. He is in effect an actual Warrior Philosopher King. He is also a crafty man with lots of experience in international diplomacy and many connections throughout Europe.

He has five daughters who are or (in the case of the late Ljubica) were married to significant individuals, hence his nickname "the Father-in-law of Europe."

The late Princess Ljubica (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zorka_of_Montenegro) (she died in 1890) was married to Petar Karađorđević, the former King of Serbia (whatever happened to him anyway?).

Princess Anastasia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anastasia_of_Montenegro) (also known as Princess Stana) is married to Grand Duke Nicholas Nicolaevich of Russia, the present Regent.

Princess Milica (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milica_of_Montenegro) is married to Grand Duke Peter Nicolaievich Romanov of Russia, brother of Grand Duke Nicholas Nicolaevich.

Princess Jelena (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elena_of_Montenegro) is presently Queen Elena of Italy, wife of Victor Emmanuel III of Italy.

Princess Anna is married to Prince Franz Joseph of Battenberg.


For the record, Montenegro does have a 50,000 man army (I'm not sure how that translates into actual units game wise, but it is a corps worth of troops) and the King himself should be considered a General Unit.


ooc
in game terms, the Montenegren Army is militia as its underfunded severely, unless Austria funds it, it won't be a factor unless someone invades Montenegro (and not for long most likely)
Kordo
15-12-2006, 01:41
ooc:

Amestria wanted me to remind all of you that a majority of the Serbian gov't was killed in the war, as well as a good portion of the intelletual class. The king was also killed after being hung by troops in Belgrade shortly after he was captured while his family was placed under house arrest in Budapest. The Red Cross and other international groups are free to visit as much as they wish.
Kilani
16-12-2006, 10:38
July, 1916

Prime Minister Stolypin stared down at the assembled delegates before him. He had come to the Ukraine in an effort to improve relations between the Russian Empire and it’s dominion. He shuffled his notes one last time and then began giving his speech…in Ukranian.

“My fellow Slavs, I come before you today as a messenger of hope. Despite the war that afflicted the European continent only a few short years ago, we are already recovering. The agricultural and industrial sectors of the Empire are booming and we now produce more food the new did before the war. I hope that the prosperity we are experiencing is also affecting the Ukraine.”

“It is my fervent belief that the central government in Petrograd and the regional government in Kiev should not be at odds. They should, instead, be working together. For only by working together and embracing each other as brothers can we hope to succeed. We must expand our trade and economic ties. We both have much to offer each other. You have great expanses of farmland, with fields of wheat and other crops extending towards the horizon. Where else can one find such agriculture? The answer is no where! You are one of the richest agricultural regions in the world.”

“I should note that Russia’s industrial sector is growing with each passing year. Already the Five Year Plan is beginning to show signs of success. We have been able to put new schools and hospitals in every major city around the country.”

“However, I did not come here to bore you with progress reports on economics. I have come to announce that not only will the Empire be making Ukranian the second official language of the nation, but that we are also extending to you the money to help your government pay for new universities and hospitals in your glorious and beautiful cities, such as Kiev.”

Stolypin pauses for the briefest of moments before continuing.

“I visited the war memorial that was built here recently to honor both the Russian and Ukranian soldiers. Several women had come to lay flowers there and the tragic beauty of the petals touched me deeply. One woman was crying sorrowfully, mourning the loss of her son, husband or brother. It was a terrible remainder of the price paid during the war and a stark reminder of one of the Imperial Army’s finest moments. Credit must be extended to the many Ukranians who fought alongside us there, defending their homeland against the German invaders. After all, we were all brothers when the Germans flattened Kiev in order to conquer it.”

“I look forward to a long and prosperous relationship as, together, we move into the future and the twentieth century. The Imperial government and myself will admit that mistakes were made in the past. However, the past is just that: the past. Let us look forward to the new day and what lies ahead. Together our two peoples are capable of anything.”
Safehaven2
16-12-2006, 14:34
The Balts quietly consult with Germany on this matter

The Balts are told Germany wouldn't mind them joining as an economic member.

At the same time Germany offers an official mutual defense treaty(Germany is already constructing a series of defenses in the BU) and an economic treaty to tie the two nations closer together(To each other and with Poland). Included in the economic treaty is an aid package worth at least 1 prod center.
Rodenka
16-12-2006, 16:58
The Balts are told Germany wouldn't mind them joining as an economic member.

At the same time Germany offers an official mutual defense treaty(Germany is already constructing a series of defenses in the BU) and an economic treaty to tie the two nations closer together(To each other and with Poland). Included in the economic treaty is an aid package worth at least 1 prod center.

OOC: I may be wrong, but I thought that the BU was a signatory to the treaty that statees that no foriegn troops can be on BU/Polish soil?
Middle Snu
16-12-2006, 17:54
Russia extends an offer on non-aggression pacts to the Baltic States and Poland. They will last twenty years and have to be renewed at said time.The terms are as follows:

-None of the countries signing the pact will make war on the other.
-None of the countries sighing the pact will allow foriegn troops through their country to attack the other.
-This treaty shall be renewed in twenty years.


(OOC: Nope. As you can see, foreign troops are allowed in Poland or the Baltics as long as they don't attack anyone. By the way, we need to do a better job of naming treaties. I suggest that this be made the Vilna Accords.)
Kilani
16-12-2006, 21:10
The Balts are told Germany wouldn't mind them joining as an economic member.

At the same time Germany offers an official mutual defense treaty(Germany is already constructing a series of defenses in the BU) and an economic treaty to tie the two nations closer together(To each other and with Poland). Included in the economic treaty is an aid package worth at least 1 prod center.

The Baltic Union is informed that any German troops on Baltic soil would be considered a violation of the spirit of the recently signed Vilna Accords (and possibly the letter, depending on German intent). Germany has proven itself to be potentially hostile to the Russian Empire in the recent past and has shown that it will not hesitate to use force or aggression. As such, the stationing of German troops in the Baltic Union would be frowned upon by the Russian government.
Amestria
16-12-2006, 21:35
(OOC: Nope. As you can see, foreign troops are allowed in Poland or the Baltics as long as they don't attack anyone. By the way, we need to do a better job of naming treaties. I suggest that this be made the Vilna Accords.)

OOC: The following was added to the Vilna Accords, ironically at Germany's insistence.

-None of the countries sighing the pact will allow foreign troops through their country to attack the other or their neighbors.

Germans troops in the Baltic could be considered an offensive force and Russia is a neighbor to the Baltic Union (the only other neighbor besides Germany). Not that a mutual defense treaty automatically equals German troops in said country, however how does that reconcile with article one of the Vilna Accords...

-None of the countries signing the pact will make war on the other.

As it was signed first I believe the Vilna Accords would take precedence (it’s rather clear in the wording, “None of the countries signing the pact will make war on the other,” no exceptions).
Haneastic
16-12-2006, 22:06
OOC: The following was added to the Vilna Accords, ironically at Germany's insistence.



Germans troops in the Baltic could be considered an offensive force and Russia is a neighbor to the Baltic Union (the only other neighbor besides Germany). Not that a mutual defense treaty automatically equals German troops in said country, however how does that reconcile with article one of the Vilna Accords...



As it was signed first I believe the Vilna Accords would take precedence (it’s rather clear in the wording, “None of the countries signing the pact will make war on the other,” no exceptions).


The treaty specifies "through", as in to let them pass through the country. it doesn't specify "in", this is to remain in the nation. Furthermore, since no troops types were specified, it is unclear as to whether they're troops for attacking, or defense
Bazalonia
16-12-2006, 23:08
Denmark raises concern over any combat troops that may or may not be in the Baltic Union, while noting the current legality of the move under the Vilna Accord.

However additional concerns are raised to the Balts about "getting into bed" with the Germans whether by a mutual defense treaty or a de-facto occupation ny the Germans as such the Balts will be trading one master, Russia for Another Germany. Additional concerns are raised over Balts being dragged into a war by the Germans
Kilani
17-12-2006, 00:24
The Baltic Union is informed that any German troops on Baltic soil would be considered a violation of the spirit of the recently signed Vilna Accords (and possibly the letter, depending on German intent). Germany has proven itself to be potentially hostile to the Russian Empire in the recent past and has shown that it will not hesitate to use force or aggression. As such, the stationing of German troops in the Baltic Union would be frowned upon by the Russian government.

OOC: edited.
Safehaven2
17-12-2006, 06:02
OOC: What the hell is all this talk about German troops in the Baltics? I haven't moved a single unit over the border...
Galveston Bay
17-12-2006, 06:29
The Balts are told Germany wouldn't mind them joining as an economic member.

At the same time Germany offers an official mutual defense treaty(Germany is already constructing a series of defenses in the BU) and an economic treaty to tie the two nations closer together(To each other and with Poland). Included in the economic treaty is an aid package worth at least 1 prod center.

Balts will then sign a treaty with all indicated
Galveston Bay
17-12-2006, 06:31
The Baltic Union is informed that any German troops on Baltic soil would be considered a violation of the spirit of the recently signed Vilna Accords (and possibly the letter, depending on German intent). Germany has proven itself to be potentially hostile to the Russian Empire in the recent past and has shown that it will not hesitate to use force or aggression. As such, the stationing of German troops in the Baltic Union would be frowned upon by the Russian government.

The Baltic Union indicates it understands the Russian concerns, but nevertheless, is an independent nation and will act in its best interest.

However a compromise is suggested if the Russians are willing to consider a token number of German troops to provide training and to act as a trip wire against Russian efforts to end Baltic independence, those German troops would not be in excess of 50,000 and would not stay more then 30 years.
Galveston Bay
17-12-2006, 06:34
OOC: What the hell is all this talk about German troops in the Baltics? I haven't moved a single unit over the border...

ooc
was wondering that myself
Galveston Bay
17-12-2006, 06:37
July, 1916

Prime Minister Stolypin stared down at the assembled delegates before him. He had come to the Ukraine in an effort to improve relations between the Russian Empire and it’s dominion. He shuffled his notes one last time and then began giving his speech…in Ukranian.

“My fellow Slavs, I come before you today as a messenger of hope. Despite the war that afflicted the European continent only a few short years ago, we are already recovering. The agricultural and industrial sectors of the Empire are booming and we now produce more food the new did before the war. I hope that the prosperity we are experiencing is also affecting the Ukraine.”

“It is my fervent belief that the central government in Petrograd and the regional government in Kiev should not be at odds. They should, instead, be working together. For only by working together and embracing each other as brothers can we hope to succeed. We must expand our trade and economic ties. We both have much to offer each other. You have great expanses of farmland, with fields of wheat and other crops extending towards the horizon. Where else can one find such agriculture? The answer is no where! You are one of the richest agricultural regions in the world.”

“I should note that Russia’s industrial sector is growing with each passing year. Already the Five Year Plan is beginning to show signs of success. We have been able to put new schools and hospitals in every major city around the country.”

“However, I did not come here to bore you with progress reports on economics. I have come to announce that not only will the Empire be making Ukranian the second official language of the nation, but that we are also extending to you the money to help your government pay for new universities and hospitals in your glorious and beautiful cities, such as Kiev.”

Stolypin pauses for the briefest of moments before continuing.

“I visited the war memorial that was built here recently to honor both the Russian and Ukranian soldiers. Several women had come to lay flowers there and the tragic beauty of the petals touched me deeply. One woman was crying sorrowfully, mourning the loss of her son, husband or brother. It was a terrible remainder of the price paid during the war and a stark reminder of one of the Imperial Army’s finest moments. Credit must be extended to the many Ukranians who fought alongside us there, defending their homeland against the German invaders. After all, we were all brothers when the Germans flattened Kiev in order to conquer it.”

“I look forward to a long and prosperous relationship as, together, we move into the future and the twentieth century. The Imperial government and myself will admit that mistakes were made in the past. However, the past is just that: the past. Let us look forward to the new day and what lies ahead. Together our two peoples are capable of anything.”

Reaction in the Ukraine is mixed, although some the truth in what Stolypin said, many however also remember centuries of Russian oppression of Ukrainian culture and the people. For some its a good start toward reapproachment, but for many, history and memory remain as fresh as ever.
Rodenka
17-12-2006, 07:36
OOC: What the hell is all this talk about German troops in the Baltics? I haven't moved a single unit over the border...

OOC: I think it was this...

Germany is already constructing a series of defenses in the BU
Kilani
17-12-2006, 09:17
The Baltic Union indicates it understands the Russian concerns, but nevertheless, is an independent nation and will act in its best interest.

However a compromise is suggested if the Russians are willing to consider a token number of German troops to provide training and to act as a trip wire against Russian efforts to end Baltic independence, those German troops would not be in excess of 50,000 and would not stay more then 30 years.

The Imperial government finds this compromise acceptable.
Safehaven2
17-12-2006, 23:14
OOC: I think it was this...

OOC: Ya, I'm paying for the Baltics defenses...has nothing to do with troops.
Koryan
26-12-2006, 21:07
To better protect Uruguay, Brazil is contributing 1.25 to begin construction of a fortress. For sea defense, the Brazilian Government has also purchased a Dutch Light Cruiser (Tech Level 5) for the Uruguayan Navy. An old River Gunboat Flotilla can also be donated if Uruguay has enough founds to maintain it.
Koryan
30-12-2006, 15:26
And continuing it's good neighbor policy, Brazil offers to construct a production center in Uruguay in exchange for half of the center's yearly income. If Uruguay refuses, the offer will be given to Paraguay and then Peru (in that order). In addition to building the fortress in Uruguay, the Brazilian Government will begin constructing a fortress in Paraguay to better defend that country. Like Uruguay, all costs will be covered by Brazil.
Novum Elephantum
30-12-2006, 18:28
Poland's Foriegn ministry, in a somewhat controversial movement, offers diplomatic recognition to the Holy See and Pope Benedict XV. Since Italian Unification in the 1870's, The legal status of the Holy See has been in doubt (unless of course Italy resolved this in this timeline). After the annexation, the Holy See was recognized by Russia, Prussia, Austria-Hungary, and most Catholic countries. Poland joins these nations, and expresses the will of the Polish people to protect Papal sovreignty.
Middle Snu
30-12-2006, 20:42
And continuing it's good neighbor policy, Brazil offers to construct a production center in Uruguay in exchange for half of the center's yearly income.

Keep in mind that production centers and points are OOC concepts, not IC concepts. I would suggest a loan mechanism instead: Brazil loans Uruguay the points necessary to construct a production center (48 points in this case, I think) and in exchange Uruguay repays the loan at the rate of 2 points per year. Alternately, you could ask for large economic concessions from the Uruguayan government, but this would probably generate resentment in the long run.
Haneastic
16-01-2007, 22:53
Japan puts forward feelers toward the new government in Vietnam, and wishes to create better realtions with Siam, perhaps ensuring peace in Southeast Asia, or better yet, an alliance between the three nations.
Novum Elephantum
28-01-2007, 19:24
1926 Baltic Union (Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania)
Socialist Market
Normal Spending
Population: 6 Million
Tech Level: 5
Production centers: 6 (18 points)
Resources: 0
Food Production: 10 (.5)
Shipping: .4 (.1)
Total Income: 18.6
After Corruption: 18.2
Growth: .3

Level III Social Services: 2
Military: 13.4
2 Infantry Corps
2 Motorized Corp
6 Reserve Infantry Corps
3 Flak Divisions (1 in each Capital)
2 Fortress Division
2 Coastal Defence Battleships
1 Heavy Cruiser
2 Light Cruiser
1 Destroyer Flotilla
3 PT Boat Flotilla
1 Minesweeper Flotilla
2 Fighter Units

Left: 2.8
Finish shipping unit: .05
Begin Fortress (Riga): 1 (1/5)
Shipping Unit: 1
Shipping Unit: .75 (.75/1)
Haneastic
28-01-2007, 19:50
OOC: Riga has a fortress, look at the old German thread, Safe built a total of 7 fortresses, of which 5 I think are in the Baltic Union
Abbassia
28-01-2007, 20:32
Economy: Free Market
Population: 3 Million
Tech Level: 4

Income:
Production Center: 2 points HALVED
Resources: 0.5 HALVED
Commerce: 0.6 QUARTERED
Aid From Bulgaria: 3 points

Total: 6.1 points

Expenses:
Corruption: 0.2 points
Military Maintenance: 2.6 points
1 Infantry Corps 1 point
1 Fortress Division 0.5 points
1 Fortress (Salonika) 1 point
1 MTB 0.1 points


Motorizing the Infantry Corps: 2 points
1 Fighter Wing: 1 (out of 3) points

Growth= 0.02*(6.1-2.6-.2)+0.04= 0.1 points

Aid projects from Bulgaria:
-Lvl. III Social Services.
-Infrastructure Upgrade (Years 1926-1929).
Accumulated Growth= 0.16 points
Samtonia
28-01-2007, 20:43
Finland's builds
Finland 1917
Points Earned
Production (4): 16
Food (3): 0
Resources (2): 2
Total: 18

Spending
Level III Social: 1
Military Upkeep: .5
Infrastructure Upgrades (Year 3 of 3): .7
Merchant Ships (14): 14

Finland 1918
Points Earned
Production (4): 16
Food (3): 0
Resources (2): 2
Shipping (9): 1.8
Total: 19.8

Spending
Level III Social: 1
Military Upkeep: .5
Payment to Sweden: 10.8

Finland 1919
Points Earned
Production (4): 16
Food (3): 0
Resources (2): 2
Shipping (9): 1.8
Total: 19.8

Spending
Level III Social: 1
Military Upkeep: .5
Naval Yard production (0 of 25): 3.3
Intelligence Agency Construction: 15

Finland 1919
Points Earned
Production (4): 16
Food (3): 0
Resources (2): 2
Shipping (9): 1.8
Total: 19.8

Spending
Level III Social: 1
Military Upkeep: .5
Intelligence Agency Upkeep: 6
Naval Yard production (3.3 of 25): 12.3

Finland 1920
Points Earned
Production (4): 16
Food (3): 0
Resources (2): 2
Shipping (9): 1.8
Corruption: -1
Total: 18.8

Spending
Level III Social: 1
Military Upkeep: .5
Intelligence Agency Upkeep: 6
Naval Yard production (3.3 of 25): 12.3

Finland 1921
Points Earned
Production (4): 16
Food (3): 0
Resources (2): 2
Shipping (9): 1.8
Corruption: -1
Total: 18.8

Spending
Level III Social: 1
Military Upkeep: .5
Intelligence Agency Upkeep: 6
Naval Yard production (15.6 of 25): 9
Research Amphibious Tactics: 2

Finland 1922
Points Earned
Production (4): 16
Food (3): 0
Resources (2): 2
Shipping (9): 1.8
Corruption: -1
Total: 18.8

Spending
Level III Social: 1
Military Upkeep: 1.5
Intelligence Agency Upkeep: 6
Research Amphibious Tactics (2): 9
Research DN
Funding to Third International: 1

Finland 1923
Points Earned
Production (4): 16
Food (3): 0
Resources (2): 2
Shipping (9): 1.8
Corruption: -1
Total: 18.8

Spending
Level III Social: 1
Military Upkeep: 1.5
Intelligence Agency Upkeep: 6
Research Amphibious Tactics (11 of 12): 1
Research DN
Funding to Third International: 1
Research ASW (0 of 12): 8

Finland 1924
Points Earned
Production (4): 16
Food (3): 0
Resources (2): 2
Shipping (9): 1.8
Corruption: -1
Total: 18.8

Spending
Level III Social: 1
Military Upkeep: 1.5
Intelligence Agency Upkeep: 6
Research Amphibious Tactics (11 of 12): 1
Research DN
Funding to Third International: 4
Research ASW (8 of 12): 4

Finland 1925
Tech 5.5
Points Earned
Production (4): 12
Food (4): 0
Resources (2): 1
Shipping (9): 1.4
Corruption: -1
Total: 13.4

Spending
Level IV Social: 1.6
Military Upkeep: 1.5
Intelligence Agency Upkeep: 5
Rural Electrification (Year 1 of 3): 1
Infrastructure upgrades(Year 1 of 3): .7
Funding to Third International: 3.6

Finland 1926
Tech 5.5
Export .04925 growth to Turkey
Points Earned
Production (4): 12
Food (4): 0
Resources (2): .5
Shipping (9): .45
Corruption: -1
Total: 11.95

Spending
Level IV Social: 1.6
Military Upkeep: 1.5
Intelligence Agency Upkeep: 5
Rural Electrification (Year 2 of 3): .5
Infrastructure upgrades(Year 2 of 3): .375
Funding to Third International: 2.975