Again They Strike (OOC Thread)
IC THREAD HERE! (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=499188)
Alright, to prevent confusion I've put together an OOC thread for y'all. Here's so far what I gathered for the sides. If I missed you, please post so I can update the lists.
Blackhelm's Band of Merry Corporate Executives
Blackhelm Confederacy
Toopoxia
RFF
31337 Soup
No Taxes
Undershi
Saint Rynald
Blainesville
New Ausha's Homies
Cravan
PROHT
Dephire
Aequatio (?)
Illior
Borman
Northford
Hostdogs2
Clandonia Prime
Rustov
No fucking clue what side/neutral participant
Questers
The Transylvania
These are so far those who posted in the thread who I didn't miss. As you can see, I did not take entire alliances into account. Again, sorry if I missed you and please inform me if I did miss anyone so we can resolve this all. Use this topic to iron out the details. And have fun.
New Ausha
12-09-2006, 04:32
OOC: THE MAP! W00t.
http://s90.photobucket.com/albums/k246/dictatedude7/?action=view¤t=NACAWARMAP2.gif&refPage=&imgAnch=imgAnch1
Basically all waters surrounding are NA territorial waters. So you have too invade too post forces on the map.
Oh, all GASN members + allies please pick a color, then post where your troops are concentrated.
ICly, the CA has been using satilite imaging (im guessing) thus revealing the map)
But once again this war can be avoided....
New Ausha
12-09-2006, 04:37
Go ahead and read the New Ausha Info section everybody, just too learn what my nations about.
Dibs, forest green, I haven't landed yet.
Hehehe... Suckers.
Questers
12-09-2006, 08:01
Btw, Junyo is a carrier (which I didn't reveal yet, so not your fault), and it's unlikely that your submarines would be far enough out to reach it as soon as it turns. They'll be several days til they arrive in theatre yet.
No Taxes
12-09-2006, 12:55
Blainsville is on the side of Blackhelm's Marry Band of Corporate Executives, since he is in the CA.
31337 soup
12-09-2006, 12:58
man you took forest green. Fine neon pink, mwahaha my dots shall blind you.
Hotdogs2
12-09-2006, 15:52
Im not really in the war, but im just going to send a big SD(Yes, The Hood needs testing in our hands) and its supporting ships...which is like over 100 i believe.
Plus 100 Submarines, i think some large naval battles can be expect, so before someone posts that their landing, you will be hitting a few of my subs on the way and later on my ships.
Oh, and who is Questers helping? I'd be guessing GASN but tbh i don't really know.
Northford
12-09-2006, 16:04
Great Idea Crave.
Anyway, I managed to remove the skin from the balls of my feet playing a rather painful game of soccer today, so I'll start writing the posts I told you about [inserts wink]
Hotdogs2
12-09-2006, 16:25
i'll be the same colour blue as the sea....because i have so many subs about they can go at "silent" and still cover the area ;). lol, but seriously speaking i'll not take a colour as my subs will be moving about so much and we have no troops there, however we could send some aircraft(with troops to defend those air bases) possibly in which case pick a colour unlike any other in use;).
Toopoxia
12-09-2006, 16:29
I won't be that active in Ausha cos my main forces are concentrated in TWSP and I have a really low attention span when it comes to war, BTW classic name for the bad guys dude!
Clandonia Prime
12-09-2006, 16:41
I will wait for ADAN to officialy go in, because of me being new I will be playing a very minor role in the conflict. However if an ADAN nation is attacked I will try my best.
Saint Rynald
12-09-2006, 21:52
OOC: I'm an Undershi Colony - therefore I'm providing him with weapons and men.
New Ausha
14-09-2006, 00:45
Ok, if war breaks out, can we all agree on the following rules:
1. Everyone involved must post ALL forces involved
2. Supply lines/munition line must be explained in detail
3. Each nation may commit units and post them, as long as it financially corresponds with NS Tracker.
(For example you look at your goverment budget. You spend 20% on defense, and your GB is 100 billion. 20 billion can be spent on ALL your millitary.
4. If war does break out, does anyone want me too design a detailed close up map of Mateel?
5. Please keep in mind the geography/climate of the region, and RP accoridingly.
Im about too the point where I can post the exact numbers off ALL my millitary, and therefore, RP my losses and simply subtract from the list. Expect it in about sometime between tonight, and Friday.
31337 soup
14-09-2006, 01:39
I take it negotiations have gone sour?
New Ausha
14-09-2006, 01:41
I spent from when I got home at 2:50 pm, too, right now, 5:40pm, POSTING ALL MY MILLITARY, DOWN TOO THE LAST HUMVEE, AND SURPRISE SURPIRSE IT WOULD NOT SAVE. I WILL NOT POST MY MILLITARY. I REFUSE TOO DO IT ALL AGAIN.
Aequatio
14-09-2006, 01:52
I'm in on GASN's side, it just took me a while to track down the thread.
31337 soup
14-09-2006, 01:53
I spent from when I got home at 2:50 pm, too, right now, 5:40pm, POSTING ALL MY MILLITARY, DOWN TOO THE LAST HUMVEE, AND SURPRISE SURPIRSE IT WOULD NOT SAVE. I WILL NOT POST MY MILLITARY. I REFUSE TOO DO IT ALL AGAIN.
Harsh man. I use rough estamites. (IE: this vehicle costs this much, i need this many. Construction should take this long. Can I afford to pay over those years?) This may be a numbers, but no one will check your numbers in detail. And whats the use of taking all that time preparing for an RP and then Being to tired to do it?
Aequatio
14-09-2006, 01:56
I spent from when I got home at 2:50 pm, too, right now, 5:40pm, POSTING ALL MY MILLITARY, DOWN TOO THE LAST HUMVEE, AND SURPRISE SURPIRSE IT WOULD NOT SAVE. I WILL NOT POST MY MILLITARY. I REFUSE TOO DO IT ALL AGAIN.
There's a link in my signature that goes to my organization lists. Go right to the last posts and you'll see my listings for my Infantry (Mechanized) and Armoured Divisions. Practically down to each tank, helicopter, soldier, administrative clerk and personal rifle. It is basically melded together both the USA and USMC structures.
New Ausha
14-09-2006, 02:14
Well I e-mailed a copy too my school e-mail. If its there tommorow, ill be sure too send it home again, and see if that works.
Ausha, Im behind you. Heres what I have too offer:
-200,000 Infantry
-340 Tanks
-4000 Armored Vehicles
-300 Coastal artillery pieces
-1400 SAM's.
-100 Fighters
-60 Bombers
-4 Nuclear Subs
-3 destroyers
New Ausha
14-09-2006, 05:05
I take it negotiations have gone sour?
No, they have one term. All GASN members must withraw from TWSP immidietly.
I think its time to have a little fun with both sides.
Hurtful Thoughts
14-09-2006, 08:13
Map color preffered: black/grey/white (ANSI hatching optional)
No, I'm not invading anybody, it is just going to be a lot quicker if I unload troops my way rather than bottle myself up in some harbour every time I unload supplies.
And don't forget to make hardcopies of your nation's data if you are going to track your military down to the last truck (and their repair status)
New Ausha
14-09-2006, 18:22
Ok, as you know, I spent 3.5 hours, making all of my forces, just too have it dissapear, through e-mail somehow. I will not follow the numbers exactly, as I did last time. Im simply going too guess, based on my defense budget (7.5-8 Trillion) and split the budget into four, for all millitary Branches. Ill not wanking, nothing near that. I just simply refuse too spend 3 hours on something that wont work. So Im going too work on it at school, and hopefully, have it posted on this thread by tonight.
If you have a problem with the numbers when I post them, ill gladly hear your grievance.
Hotdogs2
14-09-2006, 22:09
31337 soup- what ships do you have in the area? Just a battleship and frigates correct? I can RP having a satellite check it if you want on the other thread but i need the numbers of ships, and type(e.g. Destroyer etc). Class would also be good so i know how many missiles are needed etc if you have a lot of anti-air defences or a lot of torpedo's if i go in for a close kill :P
Undershi
14-09-2006, 22:23
Undershi Proper has deployed the following units to New Ausha:
- The 120th IIS Division - 10,000 elite IIS Storm Troopers, divided into ten battalions of 1,000 men each, each of which divides into ten Sections of 100 men... each of which is made up by ten squads. (This doesn't include support staff - only combatants - support staff are seperate).
This Division is commanded by IIS Colonel Matthew Parry - a True Undershi with a reputation for fanaticism, political brilliance... and a tactical mind of only midling ability.
His second in command is one IIS Lt. Colonel Ernest Jacquinde, a True Undershi of the most typical sort - an unquestioning fanatic... although he has shown signs of tactical brilliance.
This formation is supported by 150 Drake MBTs, 800 Viper IFVs and some mortars. (For info on the Undershi military in general, and the IIS units in particular, see The Undershi Military thread: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=488008&highlight=undershi. Details on the Drake and Viper will be forthcoming.)
- Other than the front line troops of the IIS, five thousand supporting staff (mostly of the standard Army, not the IIS) have been deployed in supporting roles - i.e. to provide supply services and to maintain the Undershi rear area.
- Lastly, a Regular Army artillery unit has been assigned to support the IIS Storm Troopers - they have some 1,000 men and 100 guns - 40 fairly conventional Howitzers, 40 Gauss AT cannons (mostly direct-fire weapons, but with a very long range) and 20 short-to-mid range missile launchers. (Think a more high-tech version of the Patriot missile).
I'll crunch some numbers later, but I figure I'll send perhaps an armored division and an infantry division. Note that a Cravanian division has 50,000 personnel (I couldn't find a more even way to divide it up) with 25,000 logistics. So we're looking at about 25,000 combat infantry and maybe about 7000 armored vehicles depending on the crews. (3 or 4) I may also throw in a motorized infantry division for kicks.
When it comes to naval organization, I have no clue where to start. So I'll just throw some numbers for combat ships out there and just say I have a shitload of transports.
Aequatio
14-09-2006, 23:24
I'll more than likely deploy two infantry divisions with an armoured division for support for ground forces along with an Air Force Air Expeditionary Force for fighting against enemy aircraft and providing close air support for allied ground troops.
I'll get the numbers up in a little while later in the evening.
New Ausha
14-09-2006, 23:25
No go on my numbers today. Couldnt get too the library. Ill try tommorow, and see if I can post it by tommorow night. (friday night)
31337 soup
14-09-2006, 23:41
31337 soup- what ships do you have in the area? Just a battleship and frigates correct? I can RP having a satellite check it if you want on the other thread but i need the numbers of ships, and type(e.g. Destroyer etc). Class would also be good so i know how many missiles are needed etc if you have a lot of anti-air defences or a lot of torpedo's if i go in for a close kill :P
3 Cariers, 2 battleships, and 5 frigates
The Cariers are Anti-air. 2 missle 'pods' per ship each carying 30 missles with reload of 5 minutes.
Both battle ships are equiped with a single mini-sub the first of its kind to be deployed in a GDA conflct. They are both also centered around anti-ship/ground support. IE plenty of guns that go boom.
2 frigates are anti-air. with more than 20 missle pods. (small missles)
2 are anti-ship
1 is anti-sub. (helo carier)
also could you ICly refer to me as GDA. soup is fine for OCC. thank you.
New Ausha
15-09-2006, 00:32
Duh duh duh duh! My millitary!
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11682580#post11682580
Soup, what is it with you and your alias? Why dont you like jolt??
No Taxes
15-09-2006, 00:40
Duh duh duh duh! My millitary!
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11682580#post11682580
It looks really good, except how do you have 9% of your population in the military?
New Ausha
15-09-2006, 00:48
It looks really good, except how do you have 9% of your population in the military?
Lets consider this...
1. Women are allowed in the NA Millitary
2. About 8 nations WANT TOO BLOW MY NATION DOWN TOO HELL
3. The Home guard, and all ready reserves have been activated
4. I do not even consider the 5% rule. nations have used, 15%, (this being millitia). I think im being fair....I could say, 15% of my pop picks up a gun, and prepares for battle....
Lets consider this...
1. Women are allowed in the NA Millitary
2. About 8 nations WANT TOO BLOW MY NATION DOWN TOO HELL
3. The Home guard, and all ready reserves have been activated
4. I do not even consider the 5% rule. nations have used, 15%, (this being millitia). I think im being fair....I could say, 15% of my pop picks up a gun, and prepares for battle....
My military is .08%, including reserves. And women are beginning to be integrated into combat units, as well. Although it is all volunteer. :|
31337 soup
15-09-2006, 00:59
Duh duh duh duh! My millitary!
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11682580#post11682580
Soup, what is it with you and your alias? Why dont you like jolt??
Me, i'm a hyper sensitive gerbal. I can't say about my allies though. I like jolt, jolt hates me.
New Ausha
15-09-2006, 01:31
Is there any chance of peace????
Aequatio
15-09-2006, 01:44
Operation: New Dawn - Aequatian GASN Deployment to New Ausha
Aequatian Republic Army (ARA) Elements
II Corps (2nd International Reactionary Force) (101,802 Personnel)
5th Infantry Division (Mechanized)
6th Infantry Division (Mechanized)
7th Infantry Division (Mechanized)
8th Infantry Division (Mechanized)
3rd Armoured Division
4th Armoured Division
III Corps (3rd International Reactionary Force) (101,802 Personnel)
9th Infantry Division (Mechanized)
10th Infantry Division (Mechanized)
11th Infantry Division (Mechanized)
12th Infantry Division (Mechanized)
5th Armoured Division
6th Armoured Division
Each ID includes:
17,157 Personnel
336 M4A2 Spartan MCV
216 M55RA Black Tiger MBT
72 M922 Ferret with BGM-210 ATGM
72 155mm Sabre SPH
24 203mm Broadsword SPG
24 Fire Arrow MLRS
72 AH-72 Viper Attack Helicopters
32 MH-20 Shadowcat M3U Helicopters
72 Cyclone, Mark II ADV
48 MIM-154G Super Comet Launch Units
Each AD includes:
16,587 Personnel
224 M4A2 Spartan MCV
432 M55RA Black Tiger MBT
72 M922 Ferret with BGM-210 ATGM
72 155mm Sabre SPH
24 203mm Broadsword SPG
24 Fire Arrow MLRS
72 AH-72 Viper Attack Helicopters
32 MH-20 Shadowcat M3U Helicopters
72 Cyclone, Mark II ADV
48 MIM-154G Super Comet Launch Units
Aequatian Republic Air Force (ARAF) Elements
2nd Air Force
3rd Air Expeditionary Force
4th Air Expeditionary Force
Each AEF includes:
240 F-1C Banshee Multirole Tactical Fighters
480 F-2A Abbadon Air Superiority Fighters
960 EF-2B Baal Electronic Countermeasures Aircraft
180 B-12A Vanquisher Strategic Bombers
180 BA-74 Arrow Light Attack Bombers
12 E-10B MC3I-STARS Multi-Sensor Command, Control, Communication, Intelligence, Surveillance Target Attack Radar System Aircraft
120 RQ-10 Electric Hawk Drones (RQ-4 Global Hawk UAV with Clear Sight Suite Mounted)
6 E-10C Airborne Control Aircraft (Modified E-10 for 20 UAV Pilots, 20 Radar Operators and 6 Flight Crew per Aircraft)
72 HH-20J Jaycat Combat Search and Rescue Helicopters
12 HC-130P King Long-Range Search and Rescue Aircraft
Blackhelm Confederacy
15-09-2006, 01:50
Is there any chance of peace????
Yes, actually. Griffincrest and No Taxes delegates have been waiting for you in Blainesville. It is a thread called Sunset City Conference.
New Ausha
15-09-2006, 02:36
Operation: New Dawn - Aequatian GASN Deployment to New Ausha
Aequatian Republic Army (ARA) Elements
II Corps (2nd International Reactionary Force) (101,802 Personnel)
5th Infantry Division (Mechanized)
6th Infantry Division (Mechanized)
7th Infantry Division (Mechanized)
8th Infantry Division (Mechanized)
3rd Armoured Division
4th Armoured Division
III Corps (3rd International Reactionary Force) (101,802 Personnel)
9th Infantry Division (Mechanized)
10th Infantry Division (Mechanized)
11th Infantry Division (Mechanized)
12th Infantry Division (Mechanized)
5th Armoured Division
6th Armoured Division
Each ID includes:
17,157 Personnel
336 M4A2 Spartan MCV
216 M55RA Black Tiger MBT
72 M922 Ferret with BGM-210 ATGM
72 155mm Sabre SPH
24 203mm Broadsword SPG
24 Fire Arrow MLRS
72 AH-72 Viper Attack Helicopters
32 MH-20 Shadowcat M3U Helicopters
72 Cyclone, Mark II ADV
48 MIM-154G Super Comet Launch Units
Each AD includes:
16,587 Personnel
224 M4A2 Spartan MCV
432 M55RA Black Tiger MBT
72 M922 Ferret with BGM-210 ATGM
72 155mm Sabre SPH
24 203mm Broadsword SPG
24 Fire Arrow MLRS
72 AH-72 Viper Attack Helicopters
32 MH-20 Shadowcat M3U Helicopters
72 Cyclone, Mark II ADV
48 MIM-154G Super Comet Launch Units
Aequatian Republic Air Force (ARAF) Elements
2nd Air Force
3rd Air Expeditionary Force
4th Air Expeditionary Force
Each AEF includes:
240 F-1C Banshee Multirole Tactical Fighters
480 F-2A Abbadon Air Superiority Fighters
960 EF-2B Baal Electronic Countermeasures Aircraft
180 B-12A Vanquisher Strategic Bombers
180 BA-74 Arrow Light Attack Bombers
12 E-10B MC3I-STARS Multi-Sensor Command, Control, Communication, Intelligence, Surveillance Target Attack Radar System Aircraft
120 RQ-10 Electric Hawk Drones (RQ-4 Global Hawk UAV with Clear Sight Suite Mounted)
6 E-10C Airborne Control Aircraft (Modified E-10 for 20 UAV Pilots, 20 Radar Operators and 6 Flight Crew per Aircraft)
72 HH-20J Jaycat Combat Search and Rescue Helicopters
12 HC-130P King Long-Range Search and Rescue Aircraft
*Confirmed. All military ports open for you too land.*
We thank you for your contribution too this time of high tension. You have shown yourself as a true friend. This is of course a VERY generous contribution, and we will not forget this. Thank you, again.
-Ministry of Foreign Affairs
Questers
15-09-2006, 08:09
9% is perfectly fine considering the situtation he's in atm. Problem is, you'll have to rescale it when you go back to peace =p I personally use 4% in peacetime and 8% in total war...
Hotdogs2
15-09-2006, 18:38
AHEM:
Frigates-
FFG-7 Oliver Hazard Perry Class (x10,000)
need to change that...
31337 could you post class types of the carriers etc please? Just so i know aircraft numbers etc. And would they not be amphibious landing ships if your sending troops or they being air transported?
New Ausha
15-09-2006, 23:21
AHEM:
Frigates-
FFG-7 Oliver Hazard Perry Class (x10,000)
need to change that...
31337 could you post class types of the carriers etc please? Just so i know aircraft numbers etc. And would they not be amphibious landing ships if your sending troops or they being air transported?
lol I hit an extra zero (meant for 1000)
imported_Illior
16-09-2006, 00:39
Tag
31337 soup
16-09-2006, 06:29
The first is of the Invincable class (i'm guessing at what you want)
The other two are Bogue class.
Mostly air transport planes though as i have yet to totaly define my airforce. Just a few jets and such.
Hurtful Thoughts
16-09-2006, 07:11
OOC:Have you ever heard of the hunt for the red october. Almost undetectable sub. Cool movie, i should read the book. I'm going along those principles. And the fact that its only slightly bigger than a research sub doesn't hurt either.
You then also know that for the plot of the fictional book to move forward, a single Los Angeles class sub tracked it down, and that any active Sonar (like the ones used on any surface escort regularily) could spot it.
(True, it was largely guesswork, and it was fiction)
You are best to have your sub bottom out on the seafloor and wait for them to come to you. Such a small sub would easily be able to hide along the seafloor unoticed. Even if they pinged you, they'd think you were the seafloor.
31337 soup
16-09-2006, 16:51
I never said it would work. I just said that was the concept we were using.
OH MY GOD!
You should of telegrammed this to me! I didn't know I was in another war!!!