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The Angelic Revolution (OOC Thread)

Great Nari
09-09-2006, 16:42
This is in case any nation involved in my thread has something we need to discuss. I want to keep it all clean.

Here is the thread:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=498985
Pschycotic Pschycos
09-09-2006, 23:28
Sure thing. Ummm....As this is basically your nation coming out, do you want the revolutionaries to succeed or not as this will utimately shape your nation for a while.
Great Nari
09-09-2006, 23:43
Sure thing. Ummm....As this is basically your nation coming out, do you want the revolutionaries to succeed or not as this will utimately shape your nation for a while.

I want them to succeed. I'd rather have a dictatorship than a democracy.
Pschycotic Pschycos
09-09-2006, 23:49
I mean the rebels or President Wallace's govt.?
Great Nari
09-09-2006, 23:51
Wallace's government is what i want to win.
Pschycotic Pschycos
09-09-2006, 23:55
ah right.
Great Nari
10-09-2006, 00:58
Yeah the LoP is more of a scapegoat when i started it but i will make them a general threat.
Kamasha
10-09-2006, 01:04
yea please do. I don't want to ally with a small, fanatik rebel group without weapons or funding ;)
Neo-Mekanta
10-09-2006, 01:09
If weapons and funding is an issue, I have a perfectly good modern tech sub-nation I established a while back called Earthfall Island that uses my nation stats. I could slip a little aid in the direction of the rebels, under the IC justification that there's a Neo-Mekantan in charge of the nation, and being that my FT race is rather sadistic and twisted when Human psychology is applied to them, he wants to watch this war bloom. Or is that "boom"?

Getting involved directly might be a bit troublesome, since I'm WAY out of practice in MT warfare, and I have an FT confict to deal with, but it might also be an option.

Up to Great Nari, though. Don't worry, my FT stuff is quite a bit removed, despite being the one pulling Earthfall Island's strings.
Great Nari
10-09-2006, 01:15
If weapons and funding is an issue, I have a perfectly good modern tech sub-nation I established a while back called Earthfall Island that uses my nation stats. I could slip a little aid in the direction of the rebels, under the IC justification that there's a Neo-Mekantan in charge of the nation, and being that my FT race is rather sadistic and twisted when Human psychology is applied to them, he wants to watch this war bloom. Or is that "boom"?

Getting involved directly might be a bit troublesome, since I'm WAY out of practice in MT warfare, and I have an FT confict to deal with, but it might also be an option.

Up to Great Nari, though. Don't worry, my FT stuff is quite a bit removed, despite being the one pulling Earthfall Island's strings.

No. I thank you for the interest but having the whole FT thing isnt something I want to deal with. Thanks though
Neo-Mekanta
10-09-2006, 01:19
Maybe I should phrase it better.

Earthfall Island is 100% MT. It's leader is of the same species that makes up my FT nation, but that's just mostly for show. All technology, and all but four citizens are MT Human in nature.
Great Nari
10-09-2006, 01:25
Maybe I should phrase it better.

Earthfall Island is 100% MT. It's leader is of the same species that makes up my FT nation, but that's just mostly for show. All technology, and all but four citizens are MT Human in nature.

Still, I dont want to deal with other species and the like...sorry.
Neo-Mekanta
10-09-2006, 01:33
No prob. Good luck.
Great Nari
10-09-2006, 01:58
No prob. Good luck.

Sorry man.
Neo-Mekanta
10-09-2006, 02:18
Nothin' to apologize for. Everyone has thier preferences.

Some people do not recognize fluidic time. Some nations only recognize only real world religions. Some recognize only humans. Some FT nations do not recognize Star Wars, or Star Trek.

Given that anyone's involvement falls under Defenders Perogative, your own preferences hold sway over the RP. That is your right, and nothing that needs apology.

When one has been around NS for a long time, one is quite familiar with these things.
Great Nari
10-09-2006, 02:35
Nothin' to apologize for. Everyone has thier preferences.

Some people do not recognize fluidic time. Some nations only recognize only real world religions. Some recognize only humans. Some FT nations do not recognize Star Wars, or Star Trek.

Given that anyone's involvement falls under Defenders Perogative, your own preferences hold sway over the RP. That is your right, and nothing that needs apology.

When one has been around NS for a long time, one is quite familiar with these things.

I understand, perhaps when I am more experiance I will enter into a different perspective, but until then I am sorry.
Pschycotic Pschycos
10-09-2006, 04:22
He speaks a good deal of truth. Just by being around the forums, you'll pick up on this sort of stuff.

Like me, I usually only RP in post modern tech (PMT). And I'm only now beginning to go into FT, two years later. So, go ahead, take your time, do what you're comfortable with, and develop a national identity. Then branch out when you're good and ready. Everybody here understands that.
Red Tide2
10-09-2006, 12:44
Kamasha, you CANNOT state Great Nari's losses and somehow just appear in his nation.
Kamasha
10-09-2006, 13:28
I have not said anything about anyone losses. And I did not just appear within his nation. If he wants to RP 1000 men awaiting my arrival he can do so. And if he wants to RP tanks awaiting me on the road to the capital he can do so. I only said what I did do, And that was to bring 5000 men into the a field near the capital. That's not godmoding. If I had written "They landed in the southern parts of the Capital wiped out any thereat and shoot everyone they met one there way to the house where the LoP leader were. Without taking any casualties" Then I would be godmoding :)
Red Tide2
10-09-2006, 13:56
It is, how did they get there without being detected? Hiow come they were not engaged? And you said you took out all anti-aircraft threats, that is stating the enemies losses.
Kamasha
10-09-2006, 14:50
It is, how did they get there without being detected? How come they were not engaged? And you said you took out all anti-aircraft threats, that is stating the enemies losses.

I newer said that I were not detected. In fact by "Taking out his anti aircraft threats" I must have been detected. And with being a 5 million population nation. He cant have a that great anti air force. following the rule of a maximum 5% military (Still i don't think he would have such a large military, since his nation have been keeping away from the rest of the world for generations, but that's not my decision to make). Ok anyway. 5% of 5 million is 250 000 people. He needs: Navy, air force, and land force. Ok first we can remove half of the units to get the number of men he needs for logistics (This is a small number) That leaves us with 125 000 fighting men.
Ok he is a island nation so he needs a navy. Lets say a ruffly 50 000 men. Ok then he need a army. Considering the numbers we have given I suggest ruffly 50 000 men so that it maches the Navy. That leaves 25 000 men to the air force. Of these he would probably have around 500 fighter pilots. 4500 would be working with transportation (twin rotor helicopters etc). Ok now we need at least 2000 Officers. That leaves 18000 men. And you still need home defence, Coast guard, and military police (watching the rest of the men + working as bodyguards) Home defence should contain 5000 men. So should the coast guard. The military police should be given at least 3000 men. ยจ


That leaves the total of 5000 men to the anti air defence. Spread over a large eira I think it would be safe to say that they would be rather thin in there ranks. And that it would be no bigger problem for me to avoid them. Of course I can't create his military. And I now made a sketch in 5 minutes. But I think it would be similar to something that you could find in real life. And There are lots of jobs to fill such that I have not taken the time to calculate in (The army's musicians for instens). Anyway this pretty much tells you how I could easily get past his forces.
Red Tide2
10-09-2006, 14:53
OOC: Alright, Ill drop it.
Kamasha
10-09-2006, 15:23
He he good :) BTW can you let your attempt to capture the LoP leader fail so that my men can get him? If the entire rebel force is taken captive it will be to difficult for me to continue the war. In so case I would have to follow your forces in a attempt to free him. And If you let me capture him now I can let you free him later in the RP :D
Red Tide2
10-09-2006, 18:27
OOC: Ask Phsycotic Phsycos, not me, I am just the one who is going to try to crush the LoP with massive, overwhelming force.
Kamasha
10-09-2006, 21:01
Pschycotic I'm deploying aircraft and helicopters. I'm going to reach Great Nari long before your navy. so there is no reason that you block my path. Still if you want to trow many hundredthousend dollar away in lunching 100 fighters I wont stop you.
Great Nari
11-09-2006, 02:34
For the record I want Wallace's government to win if that matters.
Kamasha
11-09-2006, 17:58
No problem I'm only going to give you a worthy opponent before I get crushed. And maby secure some gold deposits or the right to produce gold within your nation :)
Great Nari
11-09-2006, 18:04
No problem I'm only going to give you a worthy opponent before I get crushed. And maby secure some gold deposits or the right to produce gold within your nation :)

I could see that happening. So are you going to engage the men in the capital and try to free Javaid then?
Great Nari
12-09-2006, 15:33
Sorry if that last post sucked. I am really tired...i had an anthropology exam that just kicked my butt
Kamasha
12-09-2006, 21:42
yes that was what I had planed. Maby capture your president as well :) then your men could ambush me or something. And a request to you other people. There's no need to go at me with full throttle. Both Psyko and Red Tide is larger then me and you are allied with Great Nari. It shouldn't be so hard to beat me. Just relax and rp. No need to be really angry screaming: GODMODING!!!!!!!! EY MODS!!!! Try smiling for a change. :D I think it will make the RP much funnier for all of us.