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I would like you to post the following so I can understand the prices you are offering:

Name of Nation
Product
Max Price
Min Price
Price of Production Rights

Allowed Nation to post here:

Cookfur
ICCD-Intracircumcordei
Neo-Erusea


Nation not allowed:

Other than Specified

Thank You

OOc: Kid, a word of advice. When putting down the title, put "Seeking New Weapons Prices (Restricted, ATTN nameofnation)" and you will get those nations. Also, if they have storefronts, post this there. Also, if you have business with just those nations, TG them. That's all. TG me if you have any questions.

Cool, I'm on a list for something. Oh I remember. Okay, here ya go Curtissm.

Neo-Erusea
NM-3 Rhino (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11499668#post11499668) 203mm self-propelled artillery
16 million USD
6 million USD
10 Billion USD
*****
Neo-Erusea
G7S (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11495143#post11495143) Main Battle Tank
20 million USD
10 Million USD
13 Billion USD

Please note that I am revising my storefront so bear with me and you will have a far greater range of equipment to choose from.

Ah my appologies for posting a rather confusing post on your other thread.

anyway:
Name of Nation: Crookfur
Product: SX23A1 Assault rifle
Max Price: $1150 (basic rifle), $3550 (full kit with digital sight and 20mm launcher)
Min Price: $800 (basic rifle), $2500 (full kit with digital sight and 20mm launcher)
Price of Production Rights:
300,000units: $13.8million
1 million units:$34.5million
Open ended license: £50million

OOc: Kid, a word of advice. When putting down the title, put "Seeking New Weapons Prices (Restricted, ATTN nameofnation)" and you will get those nations. Also, if they have storefronts, post this there. Also, if you have business with just those nations, TG them. That's all. TG me if you have any questions.

I really don't need help, and I think it would be better if you kept your nose out of Curtissm affairs. First of all do not call me "kid". I am trying to make business with people and I would like a professional view. Secondly, I have notified these people, either by TG or by the original thread. Thirdly, no I think I will make, I do not not help from you. Fourthly, as in the title of the thread, I stated "RESTRICTED", therefore it is RESTRICTED, and you have not been notified for business. Thank You

Oh, on to other matters.

Neo-Erusea:

Although I want your tank design, I know also want your artillery design. Both will be needed for Curtissm military projects. I think you prices are very reasonable.

G7S Main Battle Tank:
I will definaltly pay prices for production rights ranging from:
9 billion-
11 billion

NM-3 Rhino 203mm self-propelled artillery:
I do not need production rights, but I will buy atleast 25,000 at these prices:
6 billion -
7 billion
If not less.
Thank You

I will post further tonight, THANK YOU

It wouldn't kill you to be less rude. You could answer him something like this "Thank you for your advice but I don't need it. btw this thread is restricted)

For the G7S 10 billion sounds good. Six billion for the 250,000 NM-3 is also acceptable. Do we have a deal?

Neo-Erusea:

We have a deal with the tank. I will pay 10 billion for production rights. I am currently at war, so I will pay you over a week or so.

However, I messed up, I will not pay 6 billion for 25,000 artillery pieces. I ment 6 million.

So you're telling me that you will purchase artillery for 240 USD each? Sure, if I didn't lose hundreds of thousands of dollars with each deal. I will sell them to you for one million each. You'll probably have to lower the order (That was way too much anyways. The Russians only have a total of 21,000 tanks, and they have more tanks than any nation in the world.).

Then forget the order of artillery pieces. But I still want production right for the tanks. If I have production rights, I am allowed to build as many as I want in my factories, which of coarse are mostly military.

Ah my appologies for posting a rather confusing post on your other thread.

anyway:
Name of Nation: Crookfur
Product: SX23A1 Assault rifle
Max Price: $1150 (basic rifle), $3550 (full kit with digital sight and 20mm launcher)
Min Price: $800 (basic rifle), $2500 (full kit with digital sight and 20mm launcher)
Price of Production Rights:
300,000units: $13.8million
1 million units:$34.5million
Open ended license: £50million

I will take you up on the open ended license. Expect payment in 1 NS year.

Then forget the order of artillery pieces. But I still want production right for the tanks. If I have production rights, I am allowed to build as many as I want in my factories, which of coarse are mostly military.

Yes, that's what production rights are. However, you should just lower the order for NM-3 guns. 25,000 of anything except infantry is way to much.

It is good to hear that you are satisfied with our Rifle for you sniping units.

Indeed the rifle can be used for sniping and for fully automatic fire.

Essentially as stated the basic frame costs 500 NS$'s.
The components on the rifle can be bought seperately to allow for configuration. Each component runs at various prices. The basic Dian configuration is currently the 48 mm launcher, and the Main rifle with combat computer and optics unit. Standard rounds are 1 load anti personnel flechette and anti hardened Teflon Coated Smoothbore steel composite (individual rounds vary however synthetics are finding their way into the rounds.

The actual construction material is a mixture, the newest units have been made using a technology simular to "liquid metal"
http://www.liquidmetal.com/technology/
There are a number of reinforced thermally sheilded and disipating grips to insure a "comfortable yet cool to warm grip" .


There is the 48mm canister launcher costs depending on production output approximately 500 NS$'s, however on low production #'s expect to pay around 600 NS$'s (for small shipments) (under 1000 units) It functions much like the M203 however has a foldout frame stock for better grip as a seperate weapon. There are also some more advanced models.

A trench gun (shot gun) under stock, that is pumpable. (there are a number of models that have been produced in the last 10 years, however unit prices tend to be between $100 and $1000. Some models have other features such as inbuilt sensors for autofire when linked with the combat computer including echosound and motion detection. WIth a buckshot it can be used for defending against air launched projectiles by making a shot cloud. The most simple modle holds 10 shotgun slugs. and is pump loaded and fired (no trigger)

There is a bayonet attachable either to the main stock the trench gun or the 48mm launcher. more then one bayonet can technically be mounted at one time, and can be interchangable with some sensor systems such as bottom and side mounted laser sights. Bayonets can run anywhere from 10$'s to a few hundred typically. Cheaper Knives can also be massed produced. The standard dian bayonet is also a a survival knife with a fillable hilt. (or it can be left empty to reduce weight) (much the same as the stock ammo cartridge, which can be left empty or replace with survival items or a secondary combat computer.

The combat computer that ICCD uses is a Prism Handheld weatherized for all terrain all weather usage (including underwater to reasonable depth) Prism Weatherized attachable Units typically cost 2000$'s each (non weatherized units are available for $1000, however are not recommended for rigourous combat conditions. The battery life of the Prisms is a minimum of 6 hours. The batteries are rechargable either by USB type plugin, multi plug connector (with small transformer) or by a standard deployed solar pad (that comes as standard equipment for Dian Forces for a variety of usages such as radio, satalite and GPS and other equipment. Role outs can cost between 50 and 500$ depending on terrain and other requirements.

There are countless other sights optic systems and otherwise for a sniper you may consider a laser sight (ranging from 10$'s to $1000) optic magnifiers (scopes with raning prices) etc.. once we know your desired configurations we can do pricing or we can supply you with the mounting requirements so that you can arrange for your own "attachments" to fit properly with the rifle.
Each component requires individual field testing as it may effect the performance of the barestock rifle depending on weight of the attachables. The rifle is MOST accurate when using ground frame bipod or tripod with basic stock, a scope is also standard issue for "target" or accuracy shooting.

The rifle ranges effectiveness is tested to 2km. targets beyond that range are very dependant on the ammo type, some ammo types may not have the same effective range. Wind conditions can also effect lighter ammos such as titanium.
As stated Dian standard round is 12mm x 36mm taking slug teflon - steel/titanium/tungsten/uranium... or regular shelljacketing and fill. also taking sabot, and flechet mark rounds. in addition to some special ammo designs.
Different ammo have different firing effects and radius. The Dian 12mm x 36mm is widely available within the Holy Empire of Intracircumcordei, and the production of the ammo has a long history in ICCD, as an attempt to make a stronger more impactive and upgradable rifle round that is distinguishable from mass produced rifles of other nations. ICCD is willing to mass export it's rounds to prospective IAR holders. Cost of individual rounds may vary depending on the material and commodity prices. Pricing can be done on request for filling specific ammo orders. There are no arms export restrictions in ICCD in relation to "non classifed" arms and equipment, usually with a 10 to 20 year clearance period which the IAR and it's standard ammunition falls into.


The way the rifle fires in different barrel length configurations, is by "winching" down the barrel into the specfic configuration. Older models use different barrels, however an internal backend adjuster now allows for the barrel to be constantly snug and sealed with the end of the rifle coming out more and adjusting the firing chamber position. The rifle is best weighted in it's long configuration.

The firing modes come by "assignment" requring the firing nob to be slid into one of three positions

"compression trigger" - will fire for as long as the trigger is held down at full rate

"Assigned Trigger" - will fire 1 bullet with within .5 second compresion 3 round burst every .5 seconds afterword.

"single compression mode" will fire once when the trigger is pulled until released and pulled again.

The rifle can have a silencer or a muffler attached or a combination silencer muffler and/or flash supressor. However silencers are quickly deteriated when using automatic fire mode (single cartridge with slight deteriation after each shot and may reduce firing range and potentially acuracy but useful for minimal and fast silenced close combat) . The flash supressors and mufflers have a longer life.

The rifle in the past was made in a variety of materials from a composite, to steel. The latest composite material is made from Alternate


Clips can be loaded into the front end or the back butstock end.

Two different ammo types can be chosen from, cartridge either front loads or rearloads up into firing chamber. Four asignable load modes, only front fire, only rear fire or fire front then rear or fire rear then front.

ICCD's IAR is a multi role Assault Rifle. Comes in "short" close combat, "engaged" field of combat, and extended distributed weight high percision sniping. Also has acceptable mounts for a variety of uses including ICCD's IAR 48 mm x 144 mm canisters. A new model in development perhaps with cooperation by Weapson will integrate attachable trenchgun/shotgun. Both the TE3 and the IAR mainbody have assignable bayonet capacity.




ICCD through a number of it's partnering manufacturers has a host of grenades. ICCD Military only uses one "standard operations equipment grenade shape" and that is the 48mm by 144 mm canister. comes in smoke, White phosphurus, frag, concusion, flash, foam, various chemical fill, acid, plastic, jelly etc.. canister outersize is the same, however often there will be a colouration marking, a symbol or wording on the canister to differentiate it. Cansters may also be programable or internal remote sensored.


The cost of canisters can all be quoted on an order to order basis.

More information is available on request.

--
p.s. a rough demostration.. model can be changed to suit individual ascetic tastes

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/50/iar3my4.jpg

I will take you up on the open ended license. Expect payment in 1 NS year.


Very good, all the relevant information, personel and materials shall be dispatched forthwith.

ICCD-Intracircumcordei;11662347']It is good to hear that you are satisfied with our Rifle for you sniping units.

Indeed the rifle can be used for sniping and for fully automatic fire.

Essentially as stated the basic frame costs 500 NS$'s.
The components on the rifle can be bought seperately to allow for configuration. Each component runs at various prices. The basic Dian configuration is currently the 48 mm launcher, and the Main rifle with combat computer and optics unit. Standard rounds are 1 load anti personnel flechette and anti hardened Teflon Coated Smoothbore steel composite (individual rounds vary however synthetics are finding their way into the rounds.

The actual construction material is a mixture, the newest units have been made using a technology simular to "liquid metal"
http://www.liquidmetal.com/technology/
There are a number of reinforced thermally sheilded and disipating grips to insure a "comfortable yet cool to warm grip" .


There is the 48mm canister launcher costs depending on production output approximately 500 NS$'s, however on low production #'s expect to pay around 600 NS$'s (for small shipments) (under 1000 units) It functions much like the M203 however has a foldout frame stock for better grip as a seperate weapon. There are also some more advanced models.

A trench gun (shot gun) under stock, that is pumpable. (there are a number of models that have been produced in the last 10 years, however unit prices tend to be between $100 and $1000. Some models have other features such as inbuilt sensors for autofire when linked with the combat computer including echosound and motion detection. WIth a buckshot it can be used for defending against air launched projectiles by making a shot cloud. The most simple modle holds 10 shotgun slugs. and is pump loaded and fired (no trigger)

There is a bayonet attachable either to the main stock the trench gun or the 48mm launcher. more then one bayonet can technically be mounted at one time, and can be interchangable with some sensor systems such as bottom and side mounted laser sights. Bayonets can run anywhere from 10$'s to a few hundred typically. Cheaper Knives can also be massed produced. The standard dian bayonet is also a a survival knife with a fillable hilt. (or it can be left empty to reduce weight) (much the same as the stock ammo cartridge, which can be left empty or replace with survival items or a secondary combat computer.

The combat computer that ICCD uses is a Prism Handheld weatherized for all terrain all weather usage (including underwater to reasonable depth) Prism Weatherized attachable Units typically cost 2000$'s each (non weatherized units are available for $1000, however are not recommended for rigourous combat conditions. The battery life of the Prisms is a minimum of 6 hours. The batteries are rechargable either by USB type plugin, multi plug connector (with small transformer) or by a standard deployed solar pad (that comes as standard equipment for Dian Forces for a variety of usages such as radio, satalite and GPS and other equipment. Role outs can cost between 50 and 500$ depending on terrain and other requirements.

There are countless other sights optic systems and otherwise for a sniper you may consider a laser sight (ranging from 10$'s to $1000) optic magnifiers (scopes with raning prices) etc.. once we know your desired configurations we can do pricing or we can supply you with the mounting requirements so that you can arrange for your own "attachments" to fit properly with the rifle.
Each component requires individual field testing as it may effect the performance of the barestock rifle depending on weight of the attachables. The rifle is MOST accurate when using ground frame bipod or tripod with basic stock, a scope is also standard issue for "target" or accuracy shooting.

The rifle ranges effectiveness is tested to 2km. targets beyond that range are very dependant on the ammo type, some ammo types may not have the same effective range. Wind conditions can also effect lighter ammos such as titanium.
As stated Dian standard round is 12mm x 36mm taking slug teflon - steel/titanium/tungsten/uranium... or regular shelljacketing and fill. also taking sabot, and flechet mark rounds. in addition to some special ammo designs.
Different ammo have different firing effects and radius. The Dian 12mm x 36mm is widely available within the Holy Empire of Intracircumcordei, and the production of the ammo has a long history in ICCD, as an attempt to make a stronger more impactive and upgradable rifle round that is distinguishable from mass produced rifles of other nations. ICCD is willing to mass export it's rounds to prospective IAR holders. Cost of individual rounds may vary depending on the material and commodity prices. Pricing can be done on request for filling specific ammo orders. There are no arms export restrictions in ICCD in relation to "non classifed" arms and equipment, usually with a 10 to 20 year clearance period which the IAR and it's standard ammunition falls into.


The way the rifle fires in different barrel length configurations, is by "winching" down the barrel into the specfic configuration. Older models use different barrels, however an internal backend adjuster now allows for the barrel to be constantly snug and sealed with the end of the rifle coming out more and adjusting the firing chamber position. The rifle is best weighted in it's long configuration.

The firing modes come by "assignment" requring the firing nob to be slid into one of three positions

"compression trigger" - will fire for as long as the trigger is held down at full rate

"Assigned Trigger" - will fire 1 bullet with within .5 second compresion 3 round burst every .5 seconds afterword.

"single compression mode" will fire once when the trigger is pulled until released and pulled again.

The rifle can have a silencer or a muffler attached or a combination silencer muffler and/or flash supressor. However silencers are quickly deteriated when using automatic fire mode (single cartridge with slight deteriation after each shot and may reduce firing range and potentially acuracy but useful for minimal and fast silenced close combat) . The flash supressors and mufflers have a longer life.

The rifle in the past was made in a variety of materials from a composite, to steel. The latest composite material is made from Alternate


Clips can be loaded into the front end or the back butstock end.

Two different ammo types can be chosen from, cartridge either front loads or rearloads up into firing chamber. Four asignable load modes, only front fire, only rear fire or fire front then rear or fire rear then front.

ICCD's IAR is a multi role Assault Rifle. Comes in "short" close combat, "engaged" field of combat, and extended distributed weight high percision sniping. Also has acceptable mounts for a variety of uses including ICCD's IAR 48 mm x 144 mm canisters. A new model in development perhaps with cooperation by Weapson will integrate attachable trenchgun/shotgun. Both the TE3 and the IAR mainbody have assignable bayonet capacity.




ICCD through a number of it's partnering manufacturers has a host of grenades. ICCD Military only uses one "standard operations equipment grenade shape" and that is the 48mm by 144 mm canister. comes in smoke, White phosphurus, frag, concusion, flash, foam, various chemical fill, acid, plastic, jelly etc.. canister outersize is the same, however often there will be a colouration marking, a symbol or wording on the canister to differentiate it. Cansters may also be programable or internal remote sensored.


The cost of canisters can all be quoted on an order to order basis.

More information is available on request.

--
p.s. a rough demostration.. model can be changed to suit individual ascetic tastes

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/50/iar3my4.jpg

How much do production rights cost? Thanks for all the imformation!

ICCD has yet to sell production rights on any of the IAR models, however, we are willing to give joint production rights on that model for $1 million dian cuneus (the basic stock) other components can be aquired seperately.

A 1% perpetual royalty on sales will be included or a $500 million outright buyout of that IAR model for unrestricted use and production.

We are willing to waive any outright costs for a 5% royalty on all units sold.

So the basic stockframe is -

So 1 million and 1% royalty on each unit sold.
OR
500 million for outright no chains attached purchase for unrestricted use and export.
OR
5% royalty on all units sold.


We are willing to hear a counter offer.
We must note that our production costs are relatively low and the technologies involved require an indepth technology base to produce. Materials could be substituted though.

We are willing to assist you in bringing any technology gaps you have up to speed if so required and we can discus any of those details.