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Vodka-stonian Army
Infantry

Standard Issue Infantry Rifle-VSA BR24 Battle Rifle (http://http://www.softairpro.com/airgun_gallery/files/thumbs/t_17262.jpg)
-Fully Automatic
-2x scope
-30 rounds per clip
-5.56mm NATO rounds
- 300-400m range
-comes with M203 grenade launcher attachment

Standard Issue Infantry Sidearm-VSA 1994 45. (http://www.keepshooting.com/productimages/firearmaccessories/add-ons/pistol-laser-sight2big.jpg)
-semiautomatic
-15 round clip
-9mm rounds
-laser pointer attached
-medium to close range

Standard Issue Sniper-VSA SM09 Sharpshooter (http://www.sinodefence.com/army/small_arms/type99sniper.jpg)
-2x,5x, and 10x scope
-.308 caliber round
-10 round clip
-800-1000m range

Standard Issue Shotgun-VSA LR11 12 gauge (http://doom3.planet-multiplayer.de/images/content/shotgun.jpg)
-12 gauge shells
-6 shells per reload
-slow reload time
-most effective at close range
-wide spread shot

Standard Issue Anti-tank rocket-VSA AT35 Rocket Launcher (http://www.eurokompozit.com.mk/LAUNCHER/zolja/zojla-lo.jpg)
-2x scope
-Devastating against light tanks and vehicles
-shell can penetrate light armor
-rocket is medium speed

Standard Issue anti-air rocket-VSA AA68 Rocket Launcher (http://www.eurokompozit.com.mk/LAUNCHER/pos/120-l.jpg)
-locks onto moving targets
-high-speed rocket

Special Forces SMG-VSA SF Submachinegun (http://www.s2company.com/huachuca/images/246-submachinegun.jpg)
-Semiauto, fully auto, and discharge fire.
-fast reload
-9mm rounds
-37 round clips
*discharge fire is when you pull the trigger once and it discharges the entire clip*
Tanks
T-19 Light Raider- (classification- light tank)
-20-40 tons
-Cannot be heavily armored or armed
-Very Mobile
- Can be transported by air
T-19 Armament-
-105mm guns with 120mm systems mixed in
T-24 Vokie- (classification- medium tank)
-40-60 tons
-Well armed
-Fairly Mobile
-lacking armor
-Cheapest (battle, not light attack) tanks in Vodka-stonia's army
T-24 Armament-
-A few 105mm guns, but 120 and 125mm guns are most prevelant
T-30 Dragonov- (classification- main tank)
-50-90 tons
-Well armored
-Heavily armed
-Decent mobility
T-30 Armament-
-Partially 120mm guns, mainly 140mm
T-45 Vladinovski- (Classification- heavy tank)
-250-300 tons ( i know. big. thats the point.)
-Massive amounts of weaponry and armor
-A slug moves faster (exaggeration, but you get the point)
T-45 Armament-
-130-140mm guns are common, mainly 155mm guns
Light vehicles
*confidential*

Vodka-stonian navy
Support Ships
VSN AE-
*Specially designed hull and storage racks so the ammunition in the cargo doesnt go boom :P

VSN AOR-
*The majority of the lower decks are refrigerated to prevent food in cargo from spoiling

VSN AO-
*massive extra space for fuel in cargo

VSN AFS-
*combat stores replenishment. Nuff said :P

VSN AH-
*Hospital ship

VSN AS-
*sub replenishment/tender

VSN AD-
*Destroyer replenishment/tender

VSN AGB-
*icebreaker

VSN AGI-
*Signals intelligence ship

Escorts
VSN DDAE -
*Heavily armored escort destroyer

VSN DDAAE-
*Anti-Air destroyer escort

VSN DDME-
*Mine laying/detecting escort destroyer

VSN DDLE-
*Light escort destroyer

VSN FFAE-
*Heavily armored escort frigate

VSN FFAAE-
*anti-air frigate escort

VSN FFME-
*mine laying/detecting escort destroyer

VSN DDLE-
*light escort frigate


Flagships
VSN BBC
*Command battleship

VSN BBG-
*Battleship with Sizable (Proportionate to guns) guided missile

VSN BBN-
*Nuclear powered battleship

VSN BBB-
*Battleship carrying ballistic missile

VSN BCC-
*command battlecruiser

VSN BCG-
*Battlecruiser with Sizeable (Proportionate to guns) Guided missile

VSN BCN-
*Nuclear powered battlecruiser

VSN BCB-
*Battlecruiser carrying ballistic missile

VSN CVA-
*attack aircraft carrier

VSN CVAA-
*Anti-air aircraft carrier

VSN CVH-
*helicopter carrier

VSN CVS-
*anti-sub carrier

Submersibles

VSN SSC-
*Command sub

VSN SSK-
*hunter killer sub

VSN SSM-
*mine laying/detecting sub

VSN SSN-
*nuclear sub (Mmmm... Nuclear Radiation)

Amphibious Assault

VSN LCI-
*infantry landing craft

VSN LCM-
*Landing craft for mechanized units

VSN LCP-
*Personell landing craft

VSN LCU-
*Utility landing craft

VSN LSI-
*Infantry landing ship (larger capacity than landing craft)

VSN LST-
*Tank landing ship

VSN LHA -
*Heliborne amphibious assault ship

MEGAPWNAGESHIPS!!!!
VSN Floating Island
*Several KM in diameter, this ship is extremely well armed, with hundreds of artillery units, some airfields near the center of the ship, as well as command/radar towers. Quite a few cruise missiles are also in the arsenal. There are also barracks scattered around the center area of the ship.
Belowdecks, there is a large area devoted to holding amphibious vehicles. The rest of the below-deck area is filled with ammo, fuel, and food storage areas.
Vodka-stonian Air force
*confidential*

I would like to credit this to Falstar. He knows his stuff.

Right. "Sick". Sounds more like "Everclear" to me.

He said:
Standard Issue Infantry Rifle-VSA BR24 Battle Rifle
-Fully Automatic
-2x scope
-30 rounds per clip
-ap bullets
-50. caliber
- medium to long range
-medium reload time

I say:
WTF is this? A 50. [sic] caliber battle rifle? And a 30 round magazine? Do you have any idea how much that would weigh, not to mention the logistics of producing a massive amount of .50 ammunition (which ain't cheap, the current price is something like $1.00 A ROUND). And what's the point of saying "ap bullets"? Is that the only thing it can shoot or what? Our M-16A2 can shoot incendiaries, tracers, armor piercing, as well as regular rounds. Whoa, I just realized something: this is supposed to be FULLY AUTOMATIC. Let me get this straight: a .50 full auto battle rifle with a 30 round magazine. *snicker snicker* rofl. Furthermore, what's the point of saying that it has "medium reloading time"? How exactly are you defining "medium"?

He said:
Standard Issue Infantry Sidearm-VSA 1994 45.
-semiautomatic
-15 round clip
-45. caliber
-laser pointer attached
-medium to close range
-good stopping power
-quick reload time

I said:
Oh, great. Now we've got a generic 45. [sic] FOURTY-FIVE FREAKIN' WHAT?! .45 Colt? .45ACP? They're not exactly interchangable, you know. At least you got the stopping power accurate. Shoot someone with either .45 round and they WILL stop.

He said:
Standard Issue Sniper-VSA SM09 Sharpshooter
-2x,5x, and 10x scope
-308. bullet
-10 round clip
-slow reload
-AP bullets

I said:
Yes, that's right folks. 308. I've never heard of it either. I HAVE heard of .308. And what's with the armor piercing bullets again? Sniping at tanks? Good luck to you--I'm sure the armored vehicles you shoot at won't need it.

He said:
Standard Issue Shotgun-VSA LR11 8 gauge
-8 gauge shells
-12 shells per reload
-slow reload time
-most effective at close range
-wide spread shot

I said:
8-gauge, huh? Do you use ANYTHING standard? Do you know how expensive 8-guage is? It would require making machinery just to begin manufacturing the stuff.

He said:
Standard Issue Flamethrower-VSA Pyro
-Devastating at close range
-approx 2 minutes worth of solid firing per gas tank
-extremely slow reload

I said:
Two minutes per tank. That's a freakin' lot of gas. And it's more like, "no reload until you return to base". I can just see someone trying to move through a battlefield with gas cans tied onto their person. Except not.

He said:
Standard Issue Anti-tank rocket-VSA AT35 Rocket Launcher
-2x scope
-Devastating against light tanks and vehicles
-shell can penetrate light armor
-rocket is medium speed
-very slow reload

I said:
"Devastating against light tanks and vehicles". So, defining things would only confuse the issue here. How much is light? 12mm? 16mm?

He said:
Standard Issue anti-air rocket-VSA AA68 Rocket Launcher
-locks onto moving targets
-armor piercing shell
-very slow reload
-high-speed missile

I said:
So, you have the VSA AA68 ROCKET Launcher, which shoots a high-speed MISSILE. How does that work, especially with an armor piercing shell? AIRPLANES DON'T HAVE ENOUGH ARMOR TO WARRANT ANYTHING OTHER THAN AN HIGHLY-EXPLOSIVE ROUND!
He said:
Special Forces SMG-VSA SF Submachinegun
-Semiauto, fully auto, and discharge fire.
-small and light
-fast reload
-9mm rounds
-37 round clips

I said:
Oh! A small and light submachine gun! That's unique, as opposed to what? A big and heavy SUBmachine gun? And what the heck is "discharge fire"? Rounds will cook off at random, thus scaring the enemy? *sigh*

Oh, by the way, none of the above firearms are real.

Umm, I have like 0 experience in military stuff.
Basically, you just bitched to a total weaponry noob about stuff I dont know anything about, i just went with whatever i thought was reasonable.
I think I said this already, if i didnt then im sorry, but i think i said "Correct me if im wrong, Im new at this" in the first post.
I appreciate you telling me, but you didnt have to be an ass about it.
You bitched about EVERY LITTLE DETAIL.
About the "none of these guns are real"... NO SHIT SHERLOCK! I CREATED THEM TO BE UNIQUE TO VODKA-STONIA!
And "light vehicles, light armor" Tend to define themselves.
The reload speed defines how easy they are to reload.
I tried to cover as much as possible, reasonably, but APPARENTLY IM NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO EVERY LITTLE MINISCULE DETAIL ENSURING THAT EVERYTHING IS 100% CORRECT AND EXISTS IRL.
And when you couldnt find much that was WRONG with a weapon, you decided to rant about EXTRA info i placed there.

Chitchwatchestan: Nice of you to provide an example of how not to provide a critique of some one's attempts at designing thier own weaponry.

Vodka-stonia: My appologies for my perhaps not too pleasant reaction to your picture requests on the draftroom, its just that the "gatling guns with everything" trend does touch a some what raw nerve.

Allow me to perhaps provide a bit of some what more constructive criticism.

1 Rifle:
While a .50 cal automatic rifle is a perfectly possible bit of engineering it isn't really some thing you would want to be issueing to your line infantry. Msot general issue "assault rifles" use a round in the 5.56-7.62mm region, 5.56x45mm NATO (the second number tells you the length of the cartridge case) is about the msot popular roudn currently used, while not an ideal round it generally tends to do the job and is proabably the easiest to adapt to. if you choose to use 5.56mm NATO you can then give your weapon a numerical value for it's range, about 300-400m for a short barreled weapon like the M4 carbine in your picture improving to 400-600m for a long barreled weapon like a full size M16. Relaod time isn't a huge issue for msot magazien fed weapons as magazine changes can be very quick or very slow depending on the user.

2 Pistol and SMG:
I deal with these together as to save nightmares for your supply troops you might aswell use the same round for both. 9x19mm Para and .45ACP (.45colt while not a actual round designation is generally assumed to reffer to .45 long colt, a big powerful round with a heavy rim, designed to be fired from a cowboy style revolver and thus not really siutable for a semi automatic pistol or SMG) have thier fans and to be hoenst either works, the only thign i would emntion is that .45ACP rounds are quite big and you would be lucky to get more than 12 into a pistol (and that would be a big pistol like the HK MK23 SOCOM) and more than 25 into an SMG.

3 Sniper Rifle:
Contray to Chitchwatchestan's rant using AP ammuntion in a .308 rifle is not unheard of but it isn't something you need to mention, as most people will assume you are using the correct ammuntion for the specific scenario, msot rifle and psitol/SMG roudns do ahve soem kind of AP ammuntion availabe to them. You could get away with mentioning a range value here which would be in the 800-1000m region.

4 Shotgun:
No real complaints now you have reverted to 12 gauge, 12 rounds of ammuntion while too much for an udner barrel tube magazine is perfectly possible using drum magazines like those used by the UCAS-12, for what you have pictured 5-6 might be your limit.

5 Flame thrower:
Generally speaking flame throwers have largely disappeared from front line use these days, you might be better with soem sort of multi role grenade launcher like A M203 (attachs to you assault rifle) or Milkor MGL-6 (6 shot revolver)

6 Missiles:
While detailed specifications are always nice your stuff at the moment sufices, msot people are aware enough of how Surface to air and light shoulder fired ATMs work.


I hope that helps a little, if you need any more help please feel free to ask, either here, by TG or on the NS draftroom board.

Thank you, Crook. Ive updated the stuff on the draftroom (the only one with chainguns is the AA)
Take a look :D