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Agressive/Defensive Alliance of Nations

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Dephire
04-09-2006, 01:29
"Hello and Welcome to the ADAN. You may refer me to as Alexander, though Dephire works just as well. Let this alliance prove to all that you don't have to be a corporate monarchy, or a Sovereign Democracy to be supreme. This alliance is to uphold and enforce future togetherness within the overall NationStates World. To ensure this Formal Alliance, there are certain rules and regulations that must be upheld. Please read the following Rules and Regulations to help keep a more orderly fashion for a better, no...A GREATER Alliance. Thank you."

~-=Alexander Ra'Baal=-~


Pre-Submittance Rules/Regulations:

1. In order to be accepted into this alliance, you must first apply for the alliance. Submittances to the alliance can be posted below, or on our off-forum site. Each nation that has submitted will then be under a pending status where they will undergo a quick background check to see if you are really who you claim to be.

2. The ADAN is an alliance of Aggressive and Defensive Nations. Thus a high military ratio may allow you more leniance for acceptance than a nation with a rather low ratio. Do not, however, let this turn you away if you are a new nation, or a nation that doesn't believe in large Military Forces. This also does not guarantee that if you have an extremely large military force, that you will be accepted instantly. The ADAN is supposed to be more open for All nations to be able to join without complications.

3. Going into further detail, the ADAN is trying to recruit all nations. More so on extremely well Role-Players. This is not a Region. If you want to create a Region, then so be it, but it is not an official ADAN sponsored Region of choice.

4. Along with the Military, the ADAN is also more leniant on Nations with a population of over two hundred and fifty million people. Also, we would like those that have a postal count of more than two hundred and fifty as well. Any less is fine, do not worry. It is just more preferred for those players that may feel as if there are immature players or inexperianced players, and it helps keep that factor out of the equation.

5. Nations can be instantly accepted if they are either endorsed or the High Council votes in favor of the Nation at question.

6. There will also be the Pending Status for all that are not endorsed before submittance. This is where the Governing Council will look into your nation's past and present. If we find that everything is favorable, then you may be found all the more able to be accepted. If you are, however, found unfavorable then your Pending Status may be revoked or your Pending Status may be extended.

7. The ADAN is not a nuclear weapons loving alliance. All usage must be granted permission by the Military and Governing Councils and then further approved by myself. Any usage without consent will result in severe actions upon thee.

8. In addition to the Pending Status, outside intelligence may also be used in your judgement. So please, don't submit if everyone in the bloody world hates you. ;)

Note: Your Submittance can be revoked if any conflicts do arise.

This concludes the Pre-Submittance Rules/Regulations.


Post-Submittance Rules/Regulations:

After you have been successfully accepted into the ADAN, you hereby restrict yourself to the following rules that guide and regulate the Alliance:

1. No Military action is to be taken amongst a fellow Alliance Member unless permission is granted by the High Council to be so. Permission may be granted upon request, but not every request is accepted. If Military action is striken upon a fellow nation without the High Council's approval, your nation would then be Expelled from the Alliance. Higher Level violations, such as more than two fellow Members, may result in Higher Leveled Consequences. Of course, this Alliance will not Forcefully remove all Members if the Conflict achieves a status of over fifty percent participation of Members. In that case, the conflict will be deemed an Alliance Disagreement, and would be considered unecessary to see to action be brought upon the Aggressive Members.

2. With the previous Rule being stated, any conflicts involving a fellow member against another fellow member may be monitored by the High Council.

3. You may NOT flame nor talk badly about a fellow member. Violations of this Rule will result in INSTANT permanent BAN from the Alliance. Higher Levels of Violations will result in notification of Moderators.

4. You may be a member of another alliance as well as this one.

5. The ADAN is not a nuclear weapons loving alliance. All usage must be granted permission by the Military and Governing Councils and then further approved by myself. Any usage without consent will result in severe actions upon thee. To apply for permission: post on this thread, telegram any Council member, telegram myself, or post your application on the private forums. Thank you.


{More Rules to Follow Later}

High Council (Rules/Regulations/Etc.):

The High Council is a system of governing for the Alliance as a whole. It shall be consistant of five member nations, one being Dephire of course. They will be in control of anything regarding Politics and Security, Law Enforcement and Society. Diplomacy and anything else. The High Council is the highest governing body of the entire alliance. The other four members of the High Council shall be decided by the fellow members of the Alliance.

Current Members of the High Council:

Dephire{Head Of Council/Founder}
Omni-Sense


Military Council:

The Military Council is to consist of three total members. Their main goal is to control Alliance Sponsored Operations, such as World War events or otherwise. To ensure a more equal opportunity for more members to recieve a position on a council, no member of the High Council may be on the Military Council with the exception of the Head of Council. The Military Council will discuss Militaristic operations together. They can be divided into three main divisions if wanted (such as Navy/Army/Airforce), but is not necessary.

Current Military Council Members:

Dephire


Economic Council:

The Economic Council is to help control the Alliance's Economic budget. It is my goal to help setup a Alliance bank where members can recieve Economic Aid from their fellow members. (Also known as an Alliance Budget.) This Alliance Bank will be put together by donations. The Council will consist of Three overall members.

Current Economic Council Members:

Neoconservative
Hurtful Thoughts


This hereby concludes all Council Rules/Regulations/Etc.



{[Snippet]} "This alliance is supposed to mean exactly what it's name sounds like. We will take in any Aggressive or Defensive nation. Hopefully, this will also promote cooperation between nations to help others. I thank you once again, and I hope you find this Alliance Acceptable by far!" {[Snippet/]}


WebSite (http://z10.invisionfree.com/ADAN/index.php?)


Total Members {14}:

DarkRed=Founder/Head
Green=Governing Council
Red=Military Council
DarkOrange=Economic Council
Black=Member
Blue=Affiliates
Purple=Pending Members
__________________________________________________________

1. Dephire
2. Hurtful Thoughts
3. The World Soviet Party
4. Asgarnieu
5. Antigr
6. Carbandia
7. Bynzekistan
8. Uldarious
9. South Adrea
10. Omni-Sense (sorry! I accidentally deleted the name from the list.)
11. Honako
12. Sochatopia
13. Zackaroth
14. Luchamos
Dephire
04-09-2006, 01:46
If anyone would like to develop a webpage, or would like to put in some advice or anything else, just post!
West Corinthia
04-09-2006, 01:55
The yellow font for the economic council makes my eyes bleed but I will consider this alliance in the near future.
Neoconservative
04-09-2006, 02:00
Would it be okay for my puppet nation to join ADAN? Normally I RP as No Taxes, but I would like to get my puppet involved in more RPing. You'll notice the low post count, but that is only because like I said I normally RP with No Taxes, which has over 500 posts. Here (http://nstracker.retrogade.com/index.php?nation=neoconservative) is my economy, I think the population and the economy are both good enough to support a very large military.
Dephire
04-09-2006, 02:23
The yellow font for the economic council makes my eyes bleed but I will consider this alliance in the near future.

Is that better?

And That is cool. The more the merrier!
Dephire
04-09-2006, 02:24
Would it be okay for my puppet nation to join ADAN? Normally I RP as No Taxes, but I would like to get my puppet involved in more RPing. You'll notice the low post count, but that is only because like I said I normally RP with No Taxes, which has over 500 posts. Here (http://nstracker.retrogade.com/index.php?nation=neoconservative) is my economy, I think the population and the economy are both good enough to support a very large military.

Your Puppet would be most welcome. -=^.^=-
Dephire
04-09-2006, 03:18
Site is up and running! WOO HOO!
That was quick!
Dephire
04-09-2006, 03:31
Neoconservative has submitted a request for the Economic Council.

Yay or Nay?
Hurtful Thoughts
04-09-2006, 05:13
I'll apply.

In case GASN goes kaput, which I hope it doesn't.

So what would it be that I do once I join A/DAN?

Anyways. My military is open to the public, but I resserve the right to withhold such measures.

My police and CDFs are for PROHT's protection and personal use only.
Dephire
04-09-2006, 05:27
I'll apply.

In case GASN goes kaput, which I hope it doesn't.

So what would it be that I do once I join A/DAN?

Anyways. My military is open to the public, but I resserve the right to withhold such measures.

My police and CDFs are for PROHT's protection and personal use only.

Your Application has been met with immediate approval. Welcome aboard.
Saint Fedski
04-09-2006, 05:31
Have you noticed the title? There's a slightish obivous typo.
Hurtful Thoughts
04-09-2006, 05:32
May I be on Economic council?

I've got a place in Megahurtzenburg that would work great.
(Okay, so I was a bit loopy when I designed my nation)

Have you noticed the title? There's a slightish obivous typo.
Only 1 G in aggressive?
Omni-Sense
04-09-2006, 05:33
Greetings,

The Republic of Omni-Sense is interested in joining ADAN.

We currently have 24 million active soldiers (including support personnel and members of each branch, no navy because of no coastline), and 46 million reservists.

Our combined Law&Order and Defense budget is nearly 28 Trillion USDs, and we are working on enlargening our Defense Budget.

[Our population is over 2.3 Billion]


While, it may appear that my post count is low and my role playing experience non-existant, neither his truly the case. I am an experienced role-player that writes decently and knows how to not be a complete (and extremely annoying) noob.

We sincerely hope we are accepted.

P.S. We would like to be counted among the members of the High Council should it be the Alliance's will.

[signed]
The President
Dephire
04-09-2006, 05:36
Have you noticed the title? There's a slightish obivous typo.

Sorry about that. It's the lack of sleep and the full head on splurge of sugar talking.
Dephire
04-09-2006, 05:37
Greetings,

The Republic of Omni-Sense is interested in joining ADAN.

We currently have 24 million active soldiers (including support personnel and members of each branch, no navy because of no coastline), and 46 million reservists.

Our combined Law&Order and Defense budget is nearly 28 Trillion USDs, and we are working on enlargening our Defense Budget.

[Our population is over 2.3 Billion]


While, it may appear that my post count is low and my role playing experience non-existant, neither his truly the case. I am an experienced role-player that writes decently and knows how to not be a complete (and extremely annoying) noob.

We sincerely hope we are accepted.

P.S. We would like to be counted among the members of the High Council should it be the Alliance's will.

[signed]
The President



As an additional bonus to being one of the first few members to join well...First, you have immediate acceptance.
Hurtful Thoughts
04-09-2006, 05:47
Just a little thought...

Shouldn't we wait until we have enough members to vote on a council before we get a permement one.

I'll step down to temporary Economic Councilmember.

And I strong urge others to do the same.
Dephire
04-09-2006, 05:51
Just a little thought...

Shouldn't we wait until we have enough members to vote on a council before we get a permement one.

I'll step down to temporary Economic Councilmember.

And I strong urge others to do the same.


Ah, you're right. Hmm...I'll just add a {Temp} Tag.
Shazbotdom
04-09-2006, 05:57
OFFICIAL CORPORATE COMMUNICATION
TO: Alexander Ra'Baal, Founder ADAN
FROM: Jim Kranishka, Marketing Director Shazbotdom Web Design

While the Dark Empire of Shazbotdom is not ready to join any more alliances (as stated in a governmental proclimation a few months back), that does not mean that corporations within the Dark Empire are barred from designing web sites for nations and/or alliances. Thus bring us to our next point.

Shazbotdom Web Design Inc is offering to design a web site for the Agressive/Defensive Alliance of Nations for a fee. We though need to get together for a consultation. For alliances such as yours, we charge $20 for the consultation fee, plus $45 an hour for the actual work. A standard job for something as large as this will cost your alliance roughly $745 USD.

You can't get a better offer than that. I hope you take this offer into consideration.
Dephire
04-09-2006, 06:00
Thanks for the offer, but I got one running! YAY!
Hotdogs2
04-09-2006, 12:06
OOC: Bit of a mix of IC and OOC in that 1st post, thats not good RP...on that point, just because i nation has 250posts doesn't mean much. I don't as H2 but with a combination of all my nations past and present i'd be looking at over a thousand. In the same way some nations who have thousands of posts are actually really quite poor RPers, i won't name names of course, thats just ridiculous, but i think my point has been made ;).

IC:

Hotdogs2 has deep concerns over the fact that this alliance is Aggressive. Therefore we must ask Dephire, although they pose NO threat to hotdogs2, as doesn't their alliance, which, as it stands, looks like it could well end up destroying itself with inter-wars, has a rather small defence budget when looking at the four member states, therefore making our government quite comfortable from that stand-point.

Where we do have some concern we shall ask Dephire, as the founder of this alliance, what is mean't by an aggressive alliance. Your terms for membership and rules are rather unclear, and so we do not understand how this alliance helps each other, unless it is supposed to bring nations together and they form their own pacts which help each other in case of war.

We also do not like the fact that the alliance seems to states no terms against nations which commit genocide or ignore others sovereign territories, something which i thought the GASN, as Dephire is a member, was against.
Dephire
04-09-2006, 22:56
Interesting points you brought up.

Here is a list of various answers:

1) When I say Aggressive, I really meant by offensive Military wise. So the Defensive nations look out for the Alliance, while the Aggressive nations tend to be the invasion/Counter-invasion forces. This is more so towards Alliance Sponsored Operations.

2) As I stated in the Rules and Regulations, MORE RULES TO FOLLOW. Pretty self explanitory if you catch my drift.
Dephire
05-09-2006, 01:24
Need more members! Instant acceptance for the next five submittances!
Hotdogs2
05-09-2006, 15:47
Very well, we find those answers to be adequate for now, we shall look on with interest at how your alliance does and the rules you bring into force.

Good luck, and may peace be with you, Hotdogs2 Foreign Office
Lroon
05-09-2006, 15:51
The Wise and Benevolent Leader For Life, Charles Mensan, of the Rogue Nation of Lroon, hereby requests entry into the organization known as the ADAN.
Usea-Jason
05-09-2006, 16:18
I hope you Don't mond Socalist Nations in ADAM,if not then ill join.

(I'm more of a react RPer.Yet I will take action if needed.)
Terror Incognitia
05-09-2006, 16:26
Terror Incognitia may be interested in joining. Due to a temporary oversight by a lunatic previous leader, we currently have no military forces (OOC: I got rid of em before I was RPing, and haven't had the issue to get them back). However as soon as we have set up armed forces we will be willing to take an active role in the alliance.
Lroon
05-09-2006, 16:27
I hope you Don't mond Socalist Nations in ADAM,if not then ill join.

(I'm more of a react RPer.Yet I will take action if needed.)

OOC: ADAN actually. ADAM sounds like some loony religious group.
Usea-Jason
05-09-2006, 16:37
Sorry,my bad.ADAN.I mis-hit.
Clandonia Prime
05-09-2006, 16:38
Clandonia Prime needs to get allies and friends, we look kindly on joining such a great alliance. Our army is small and our defense funding has been low, in legistlation today the government has agreed to increase defence and security spending.

We look towards larger and more advanced countries for military and economic aid in our attempt to bring Clandonia Primes military into the 21st century.
The World Soviet Party
05-09-2006, 17:05
Sure, I'll join.
Hotdogs2
05-09-2006, 17:35
Terror Incognitia- If you so wish, we would be happy to grant you aid to your nation to start a military up. We have older tanks available to purchase/rent, and im sure you can pass it off as part of your law and order budget...

Failing that we could sell them to you and accept payment at a later date. We can also issue training to your military and as soon as you can begin repayments we shall accept them with NO interest. All we ask is that if we should ever need aid in the defence of our nation that we can rely on you to send the same number of forces for which we will innitialy provide you for.

Should you accept then first package sent to you, along with the personnel to train your troops shall consist of(please not these have seen limited use):

500x M1A2 Abrams @$1Million USD EA
100x M60A3 @$200,000 USD EA
300x AAVP7A1 APC (21 troops, amphibious) @$500,000 USD EA
100x M2 Bradley IFV (6 troops) @$600,000 USD EA
100x M109A6 Paladin 155mm SPG @$1.3million USD EA
40x M270 MLRS SPLL @$1million USD EA
300x HMMWV @$10,000 USD EA
200x 5ton Truck's @$30,000 USD EA
4620x M4A1 Carbine @$250 USD EA (1 each For Vehicle Crews)
30,000x M16A2 Rifles @$250 USD EA

We can supply ships and aircraft as needed, but the armoured section above should be able to cover around $30,000 Troops by our calculations.
Terror Incognitia
05-09-2006, 17:47
With our thanks for the offer, we have plenty of military equipment left over from when we still had a military, as the government of the time took against selling it as immoral, and so mothballed it.
We appreciate your suggestion of raising a military force under Law and Order, also. We may just do that, at least to recover the cadre of trainers who found other employment when the military was disbanded, and begin training up troops to form our army in the near future.
As soon as there is legal authority for it, our Armed Forces will be on their way back to their former glory.
Dephire
05-09-2006, 21:11
Sorry everyone, been away from computer for a little while.

I'll add your names to the list in a few minutes.
Clandonia Prime
05-09-2006, 21:35
I know I'm a newb does that include me?
Dephire
05-09-2006, 22:36
-Chuckles-

I wasn't really implying that any new members of Nationstates couldn't join. All are welcome, I just wanted to put more emphasis on Experianced players to sign up.
Dephire
06-09-2006, 21:13
Member list has been updated!

New members are welcome!
Clandonia Prime
06-09-2006, 21:49
Woot good job, now what shall we do first? Your in the Golden Triangle as well are other members in the region or is it an alliance outside the region.
Dephire
06-09-2006, 22:03
Woot good job, now what shall we do first? Your in the Golden Triangle as well are other members in the region or is it an alliance outside the region.

Hmm. The Golden Triangle is just a region I joined to boost up my trade economy. The ADAN is just an Alliance that is not at all a region. Of course, I will not stop anyone from making an Aggressive-Defensive Alliance of Nations Region, I just won't call it a "Fully Supported" region.

Now onto business.

Being in the Alliance gives every member bonuses. These bonuses include, but are not limited to: DCRC Control, Alliance Bank Account, Site Access, Shared Military Power, Voting Rights, ICBM Power (Against Invaders), and more!

DCRC stands for the Dominator-Class Rail Cannon. It's one of the most powerful weapons that shows through above all other things on Dephire's Military Armaments. Their distructive capabilities are unmatched and unparalleled. All GASN Members know of it's powers, for it's on the GASN Forum Site.

Shared Military power just means that in the case of a Full-Scale ADAN Operation, everyone will have the ability to control other people's forces. This ability, however, is in check by the True leader of those forces.

ICBM Power is to be used only as a last resort. I will grant this power if I see it fit.

Site Access just means that you can go to the ADAN site freely. Look at my signature or the first page for the site link. It's pretty empty now, but it will fill up as time goes by.
Gunkoku
07-09-2006, 03:06
To Dephire,
We the Great state of Gunkoku wish to apply for a position within this alliance.
Our Consul, General Ushio has also requested the alliances support in a secret invasion strategy of our neighbor Bushijatagi. We hope you will accept our humble bid for unity
-Minester of Foreign Affairs, Yukikaze
Usea-Jason
07-09-2006, 11:34
If the cause is Just,Usea can also asist.
Hotdogs2
07-09-2006, 16:06
OOC: Just taking a tough stance on you because of the fact you have talked about Nukes...:P

IC:
Hotdogs2 again feels a tinge of danger from the pure fact that ICBM's are being mentioned. It is something that should NEVER be used, and it is PURELY a detterent, or at least should be. If ADAN ever uses a nuclear strike against any of Hotdogs2's allies the whole alliance shall be held responsible, and we shall raise the purpotrating nations states to the ground.

You have been warned, as we hate to see the use of WMD's but shall do if it is necessary.

Again, we sincerly hope this will never occur, but feel it is a mistake for an alliance as a whole to call for missile strikes which lead to Mass Destruction and death to innocent bystanders.
Terror Incognitia
07-09-2006, 16:15
Incognitia's stance would lead us to withdraw from the alliance were there to be any use of nuclear weapons except in retaliation. However we resent any nation interfering, or attempting to interfere, with the workings of an alliance of which we are part.
Hurtful Thoughts
07-09-2006, 16:46
Deterant is useless unless someone is willing to use them.

PROHT has 18" mobile railguns.

Not sure about the mobility of the DCRCs... Even though they are about 4 to 8 times as big and capable.
Hotdogs2
07-09-2006, 18:31
Deterant is useless unless someone is willing to use them.

That is not true, if noone is prepared to strike first with them then they have done their job.

As to Terror Incognitia, we are purely warning of the fact that nuclear attacks are unaceptable, whoever's alliance it is and i for one would not stand for it. If you choose to view it as hostilities so be it, but Hotdogs2 does not and purely issues it as a slightly cautious warning, as to us it signals the ability by your alliance to use nuclear attacks in an aggresive manor, as you must not read what is there, but also read what is NOT there, and it does NOT say that they won't be used aggresively.

For that reason we issued that warning not to use them on our allies, for it would be a disgusting use of force and we would not allow any nation to do so if possible. We are very glad that you agree that they should not be used aggresively also, especially by a whole alliance, it could well cause doom to many of our nations if an alliance wide Nuclear bombardment occured as the fallout would span the world over.
Dephire
07-09-2006, 20:26
As I stated, the Use of Such WMD's is strictly forbidden unless permission is granted by the Governing Council. The use of the ICBM is only for Retalliation purposes, and as a LAST resort. By last I mean after the Counter-Invasion(s).
Lroon
07-09-2006, 20:53
Just a couple of points I'd like to bring up. When you say WMD's are a last resort, do you mean alliance use, or individual use?

Second, what do you consider a WMD?
Dephire
07-09-2006, 20:56
Anything with the word Nuclear I would say is a WMD. If you have any further questions about WMD's, just ask.

Also, I mean to restrict all Alliance's use of WMD's. If you are to use one without consulting the Council or me, then that will be a temp. ban.
Hotdogs2
07-09-2006, 21:50
Excellent, however that does mean you run a considerable risk that if you have a nation invaded that pre-emptive strikes are made upon your nations due to these rules.

However much we disagree with this and believe it was a bad move on the alliances part we shall not bother you but we shall watch closely should one of your member states be invaded, we would rather not have any nuclear fall-out near us in particular.
Dephire
07-09-2006, 22:16
Excellent, however that does mean you run a considerable risk that if you have a nation invaded that pre-emptive strikes are made upon your nations due to these rules.

However much we disagree with this and believe it was a bad move on the alliances part we shall not bother you but we shall watch closely should one of your member states be invaded, we would rather not have any nuclear fall-out near us in particular.

Ah. More elaboration is needed. Yes? I restrict it so that a WMD is rarely used. By Rarely I mean...once in a year or two rare. (Real Life Years)
Dephire
07-09-2006, 22:26
You have been accepted. Please visit the site and have some fun with us!
Hotdogs2
07-09-2006, 22:50
OOC:
I can see where your comming from, but i'd have kept quiet about it and then if they didn't know about it then that threat to you wouldn't be there. I would be suprised if you ever did need it, but i suppose if they were going to destory three nations or the like and commit great genocide then the lesser of two evils....

Of the other hand, if people know your willing to use them, then they will not want to mess with you...
Dephire
07-09-2006, 22:53
I too do not see the reasoning behind a WMD except for immature intimidation. If you want to fight, Do it like a man! Har har har! SOVIET BULL RUSH!!!!
Hotdogs2
07-09-2006, 23:00
OOC:

Lol, after that i feel safer than ever, :D. Well good luck to the alliance, i don't expect we'l ever have any issues.
Hurtful Thoughts
08-09-2006, 03:08
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=498886

I'm going to go on a limb here...

People's Republic of Hurtful Thoughts invites you to join ADAN (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=498389).

It is sort of like NATO, or something, non-region based.

Just a little heads up, Mr. Deph, sir.
The World Soviet Party
08-09-2006, 03:12
Just for everyone to know, I'll firebomb the shit outta Beiraq :D

You DONT fire Mustard Gas-Filled SCUDs at me, you just dont.
Dephire
08-09-2006, 07:46
Thank you Hurtful Thoughts! Soviet Party, where is that happening?
Clandonia Prime
08-09-2006, 17:22
Premptive strike anyone?
Dephire
09-09-2006, 01:00
Huh? What is this about a strike???
Ocion
09-09-2006, 01:10
The Condeferacy of Ocion requests admission into this alliance. For too long we have held an isolationist stanch but upon further consideration we have decided to become more involved in military and diplomatic affairs abroad.

Tyler Hutchins
Prime Minister
Confederacy of Ocion
Dephire
09-09-2006, 01:27
The Condeferacy of Ocion requests admission into this alliance. For too long we have held an isolationist stanch but upon further consideration we have decided to become more involved in military and diplomatic affairs abroad.

Tyler Hutchins
Prime Minister
Confederacy of Ocion

Welcome. Feel free to join the Off-Site Forum as well.
Ocion
09-09-2006, 01:33
OOC: When will you be choosing members for the various councils?
Dephire
09-09-2006, 01:36
OOC:

Elections will begin when the total Population of the ADAN reaches twenty or so members.
Hurtful Thoughts
09-09-2006, 02:51
Make it 13, that way there is less chance of a tie.
Omni-Sense
09-09-2006, 03:17
Make it 13, that way there is less chance of a tie.

Not really necessary... each position has multiple slots.
Dephire
09-09-2006, 03:28
Hmm...this is interesting. Let's have a vote.

How many members should we have before elections?

11
12
13
14
other...?
Ocion
09-09-2006, 19:43
I think 15 will be enough to hold initial elections.
Hurtful Thoughts
09-09-2006, 23:01
12<x<18
Dephire
10-09-2006, 00:20
Will fifteen suffice for you Hurtful Thoughts?
Clandonia Prime
10-09-2006, 00:22
15 yes, always best to have an odd number.
Hurtful Thoughts
10-09-2006, 00:23
Yes
Dephire
10-09-2006, 00:23
Then it shall be. When we reach fifteen members, elections shall be held.
Hotdogs2
10-09-2006, 10:08
Hotdogs2 would like to offer its services should they ever be needed to ADAN, we ask for nothing in return but for a greater Bonb between the alliance and hotdogs2. With our military planning great upgrades in the near future we shall be a real force to be reckoned with by even the greatest nations. Therefore we would be glad to be of use to you for our greater integration and co-operation.
Clandonia Prime
10-09-2006, 10:28
OOC: Why not just ask to join?
Hotdogs2
10-09-2006, 13:57
OOC: Why not just ask to join?

OOC: Im happy enough just being in the GDI TBH, however i like the alliance but i also have to be careful due to my other alliances, im finding that often alliance memberships intertwine and then you get problems when you have one alliance get attacked by a member of another alliance which you are part of when they were acting on behalf of a third alliance...it can get complicated :D.

It's much easier to be allied with, but not officially have signed anything or joined anything so as to be able to stay neutral if necessary and yet have that unofficial alliance just in case you want to help.
Dephire
10-09-2006, 14:10
OOC:
Also, that sort of member is known as an Affliliate, or Non-Member Ally.
Hotdogs2
10-09-2006, 21:04
OOC: Feel free to list us as an Affliliate although we will only help if we feel it is right.
Dephire
11-09-2006, 11:54
Gotcha. Hmm...OW! Wounds burn like fire!
Dephire
12-09-2006, 02:00
Everyone. The CA has declared war upon one of our own. What shall we do?
The World Soviet Party
12-09-2006, 02:06
Everyone. The CA has declared war upon one of our own. What shall we do?

CRUSH HIM!

*Cough*

Ahem.
Dephire
12-09-2006, 02:07
That's what I thought.
Lroon
12-09-2006, 14:51
That's what I thought.
Er...

This is a bit awkward...
Dephire
12-09-2006, 15:18
Er...

This is a bit awkward...

Don't Worry. All Members that are both ADAN and CA are not part of this and should be considered neutral.
Clandonia Prime
12-09-2006, 15:46
Nuke 'em from oribit? With a GASN, GDI, possibly UNA alliance the CA have no chance.
Dephire
12-09-2006, 16:01
Nuke 'em from oribit? With a GASN, GDI, possibly UNA alliance the CA have no chance.

That's alot of people....
Hotdogs2
12-09-2006, 16:17
OOC: The GDI is not involved, unless Questers is helping Ausha out but im not sure atm, if thats the case then i'll put out a message asking for anyone who wants to join and we'll go and attack the aggressors nations instead of just sitting back and defending a nation...;)
Dephire
12-09-2006, 16:20
OOC: The GDI is not involved, unless Questers is helping Ausha out but im not sure atm, if thats the case then i'll put out a message asking for anyone who wants to join and we'll go and attack the aggressors nations instead of just sitting back and defending a nation...;)

Ah. Thank you for the Elaboration.
Hurtful Thoughts
12-09-2006, 16:55
OOC: The GDI is not involved, unless Questers is helping Ausha out but im not sure atm, if thats the case then i'll put out a message asking for anyone who wants to join and we'll go and attack the aggressors nations instead of just sitting back and defending a nation...;)

That is in conflict with the ADAN charter.

Since attacking CA nations would force the CA/ADAN nations out of nuetrality and/or because the CA is considered one large (semi-)cohesive nation.

ADAN members therefore are limited to merely helping defend NA. And should bear the brunt of the defense, allowing greater numbers of non-ADAN members to invade CA (if that is what you want).
Dephire
12-09-2006, 18:16
Wow. I should make you a member of the Governing Council, Hurtful Thoughts. Nice job!
Clandonia Prime
12-09-2006, 19:11
Speaking of which shouldn't we really get the military council sorted out?
Dephire
12-09-2006, 23:10
Speaking of which shouldn't we really get the military council sorted out?

Military Council is coming in soon.
Neoconservative
12-09-2006, 23:23
Yeah, I am also in kind of an awkward situation since my puppet (Neoconservative) is in the ADAN, while my main nation (No Taxes) is in the CA. Though I do think the ADAN should defend New Ausha and Neoconservative is prepared to send forces there or elsewhere.
Dephire
12-09-2006, 23:29
Yeah, I am also in kind of an awkward situation since my puppet (Neoconservative) is in the ADAN, while my main nation (No Taxes) is in the CA. Though I do think the ADAN should defend New Ausha and Neoconservative is prepared to send forces there or elsewhere.

Then how about this.

Attack if you wish. It will not be considered a full ADAN operation.

ADAN is not at war with anyone.

All members involved must not attack a fellow member though.

If you must attack your fellow member, then ask me.
New Ausha
13-09-2006, 02:56
Do you intend too support me, in the war that MAY come about, between me and the CA?
Dephire
13-09-2006, 11:47
Do you intend too support me, in the war that MAY come about, between me and the CA?

Hmm. I personally don't know. I'll have to discuss it with the councils.
Dephire
17-09-2006, 02:02
Alright.
ADAN members. We are ASSISTING New Ausha.
Hurtful Thoughts
17-09-2006, 04:34
Alright.
ADAN members. We are ASSISTING New Ausha.

Already there, have island, will travel.

Wire Paladin.
Dephire
17-09-2006, 04:35
Well. Good! -chuckles-

Anyways, the Dephirian Civil War III thread is posted.
Asgarnieu
17-09-2006, 05:06
Office 1
1217 Government Way
Balkan City, 85546
Druid Province, United Democratic Empire of Asgarnieu

TO: Agressive/Defensive Alliance of Nations (ADAN)
FROM: The United Democratic Empire of Asgarnieu
SUBJECT: Possible Membership

Greetings. Asgarnieu wishes to join the ADAN for it has strong ties with The GASN and other prominent Pacts/Alliances. Is this possible? Thank you for considering our humble request.

Respectfully,

Justin A. Herbert
President of The United Democratic Empire of Asgarnieu
Dephire
17-09-2006, 14:24
Yes, you may join.
Dephire
22-09-2006, 12:34
We need more members!
Omni-Sense
02-10-2006, 18:08
Is this still going...?
Dephire
02-10-2006, 20:24
Of course it's still alive! We just haven't been around..kinda hiding, ya know?
Flightopia
03-10-2006, 03:19
To: Agressive/Defensive Alliance of Nation (ADAN)
From: The Armed Republic of Flightopia

The Armed Republic of Flightopia respectfully submits it's inquery to join the ADAN. We have a growing population of 2.381 billion, and with a growing defence budget of 20 trillion this seems like an excilent allience for us.

Signed,
Hunter Alldredge
President of the Armed Republic of Flightopia
Dephire
03-10-2006, 20:32
Yeah. You are in.

Side Note: Damn. They are bigger than us!
Antigr
14-10-2006, 10:07
Hi Dephire.

The United federation of Antigr would like to join this alliance.If we can't because of the Danteri thing,i'll understand.

Signed,
President Joe Martin.

P.S. If i do join,can I be on the Military Council?
Dephire
14-10-2006, 14:43
Not entirely sure about the MC, but you can join the alliance.
Antigr
27-10-2006, 20:58
bump.
bump.
bump.
bump.

yay,my first bumps!
Antigr
27-10-2006, 20:59
bump.


heeheehee.
Antigr
27-10-2006, 21:00
Bump!
Antigr
27-10-2006, 21:01
Made up yer mind about the MC?
DMG
27-10-2006, 23:25
Quit it.
Dephire
28-10-2006, 00:01
No, you may not be on the Military Council until the Governing Council has a meeting upon it.
Hurtful Thoughts
28-10-2006, 00:16
We have an active GC?
Dephire
28-10-2006, 01:29
Considering the fact that we have breached the recommended member amount, yes we have an active GC.
Hurtful Thoughts
28-10-2006, 02:07
So ADAN is alive again?
Dephire
28-10-2006, 02:10
Yes, The Aggressive-Defensive Alliance of Nations is back. May all tremble before our might. -laughs evilly-
Hataria
28-10-2006, 02:54
The Imperial Republic of Hataria would like To Join your Alliance.
Jaredcohenia
28-10-2006, 03:17
A comment towards Hataria's request:

Hataria is one of the only nations to be ejected from the GASN. He was kicked due to the fact that he only requested help and never aided.

Before accepting Hataria, please think of this nation's ill fated past.

OOC: He is joining for an OOC reason.
Hurtful Thoughts
28-10-2006, 04:40
Set him under 2 weeks review?
Dephire
28-10-2006, 21:39
Hataria, you are hereby under a two week pending status. ;)
Hataria
28-10-2006, 21:41
Hataria, you are hereby under a two week pending status. ;)

:)
Dephire
28-10-2006, 21:47
Don't disappoint us though. :cool:
Ackistan
28-10-2006, 21:48
Greetings from the Republic of Ackistan!

The Hatarian government seems to think testing nuclear weapons in random locations is a sound idea. The fact you would consider allowing them in you alliance, which already contains the likes of Clandonia Prime, tells us all we need to know about your alliance. Your alliance will be viewed as a menace by our nation. Our government wishes to inform you that we are enacting economic sanctions against all your member nations.

Best wishes,
Angelina Whittaker
Secretary of State
Hurtful Thoughts
28-10-2006, 23:42
Link please, or else I will consider your statement heresey.

Already had to 'defend' a charge of plagerism against Hat OOCly...

Lots of Stigma since you were ejected from GASN apparently.
(And for a reletively minor reason at that, for 'freeloading')

Also, Dephire is also listed as an 'ejected' member of GASN.
(For, well, bouts of insanity)

So the previous statement was false.
Ackistan
29-10-2006, 00:07
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=504110&highlight=Hataria+nuclear+test

OOC: Let me know if you need some Clandonia Prime links.
Hurtful Thoughts
29-10-2006, 00:20
So he blew up a bomb in a location he beleived was empty international waters?

I believe the US government has done far worse.

Lucky Dragon.

Bomb yielded resaults 1000% (yes, three zeros) greater than predicted.

Just goes to show how much we have yet to learn about nukes.

Also, it is a show to prove they can make one that works. (North Korea [world's smallest 1st test nuke, even the world's 1st nuke was bigger])
Or that theirs is bigger... (Russia...)

Don't let me down Hataria...
Ackistan
29-10-2006, 00:30
So he blew up a bomb in a location he beleived was empty international waters?

I believe the US government has done far worse.

Lucky Dragon.

Bomb yielded resaults 1000% (yes, three zeros) greater than predicted.

Just goes to show how much we have yet to learn about nukes.

Also, it is a show to prove they can make one that works. (North Korea [world's smallest 1st test nuke, even the world's 1st nuke was bigger])
Or that theirs is bigger... (Russia...)

Don't let me down Hataria...


That nation seemingly at random picked a location to blow up a nuclear weapon. It is ridiculous to claim that a modern nation with satellites and aircraft has no idea what lies 400 miles north of their border. They blew up ia nuke in the craddle of civilization for God's sake! People were killed. Innocent people. Calling that act irresponsible is an insult to irresponsible people.

If that is the sort of nation your alliance looks for, then that says a lot about your alliance.

Economic santions are still in effect.

Best wishes,
Angelina Whittaker
Secretary of State
Terror Incognitia
29-10-2006, 01:17
See what effect economic sanctions have. None, most likely.

Love and kisses
The Incognitian Government.
Dartia
29-10-2006, 01:25
Official State by Free Land of Dartia

We will support our Ackistani allies and institute economic sanctions as well.
Hurtful Thoughts
29-10-2006, 02:31
We don't go out looking for these people, they come to us.

Even the world's worst nations can change for the better with proper 'guidance'.

Although I'm not saying the best way is to control everybody and ignore their rights.

I'm just saying that when someone suggests something, it gets noted and acted upon.
Asgarnieu
29-10-2006, 02:32
Boo-hoo. Two nations imposing economic sanctions upon The ADAN? That's it? Besides, how many of us trade with Ackistan or Dartia? We don't. Take your angryness elsewhere. Thank you.
The Aeson
29-10-2006, 02:33
Boo-hoo. Two nations imposing economic sanctions upon The GASN? That's it? Besides, how many of us trade with Ackistan or Dartia? We don't. Take your angryness elsewhere. Thank you.

Wait, he's embargoing the GASN? Because of Hataria? Didn't we kick Hataria out months ago?
Hurtful Thoughts
29-10-2006, 02:35
No, someone misspelled ADAN again...
Tranquility Island
29-10-2006, 02:59
The Most Serene Republic of Tranquility Island joins the others in economic sanctions against ADAN. Citizens of ADAN nations will no longer be allowed to enter our country. Our lush forests, pristine beaches, resorts, casinos, and archeological sites are off limits to your tourists.

To be honest, our government is terribly confused. Most of the ADAN nations seem respectable to us. We do not understand why honorable nations would pledge to defend dangerous nations and support their aggressive activities.

We hope this is only temporary.

Peace be with you.
Naasha
29-10-2006, 03:12
Naasha is expanding our existing economic sanctions on Clandonia Prime to cover the whole ADAN, these will be lifted once you re-consider certain memberships.
Hurtful Thoughts
29-10-2006, 03:14
Only when they mess up after they join.
Greater Morocco
29-10-2006, 03:34
We have said it before, and we will say it again. Clandonia Prime is like a boil on the butt of the world, which makes us all uncomfortable.

The infidels of Hataria are even worse. Without cause they killed many of our people just to test their latest weapon.

From this day forth, we join the civilized nations of the world in their sanctions against this unholy alliance. Our government does not wish for war against Hataria, but that position is not popular with our people. Many have called for jihad against the Hatarians. I fear mujahadeen will try to instigate war against Hataria against our government's wishes.
Hurtful Thoughts
29-10-2006, 03:39
We might have to let Clandonia and Hataria go...

And encourage them to join a more appropriate alliance.
(That or I'll have to leave to prevent GASN from getting dragged into this mess)
North Tolemac
29-10-2006, 04:34
Public Announcement


The government of North Tolemac has decided to join in sanctions against the ADAN until such time as your offensive members are no longer with you. Nations belonging to both GASN and ADAN are exempt from our sanctions as we are bound to trade with them.

Good day.

- Henry Logan
Foreign Affairs
Asgarnieu
29-10-2006, 04:59
Damn, I got lost. I was visiting the GASN V2.0 thread and then came right here, sorry for the fark-up guys.

Notice it is all very unimportant small nations and newbies embargoing us? I musn't be the only one..
Clandonia Prime
29-10-2006, 14:40
Official Clandonian Response
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/madnukedude/clandoniansmallflag.png


Clandonia will not bow to pressure from the zealus axis of evil of what ever they call them selves in Europe. We laugh at them and their weak economies, they are failed nations in Clandonian eyes.


OOC: Why have all the newbs suddenly rallied round to attack me and Hataria?
Dephire
29-10-2006, 15:30
These minor economic sanctions upon the Aggressive-Defensive Alliance of Nations must end. As you can clearly notice, Hataria is on a pending status. This does not immediately grant Hataria as a full-member of this organization. Furthermore, for Hataria to be testing nuclear weapons without the full permission granted and cleared by me, he hereby destroys his pending status. Hataria is, until he (or she) gets their shit together, ejected.

Clandonia Prime. I have been hearing alot of rumors going around that you too have been testing/using nuclear weapons without permission being granted and cleared by myself. If you are found guilty, then I will have to demote you to a one week Pending Status.

Now then. If I am correct, all of you 'Economic Sanction' nations are pulling through an alliance-wide sanction for one member nation and one non-member nation. Is this correct? Because it is making all parties involved need to gather more evidence. Going out and declaring an economic sanction against an entire alliance because they have one member nation that doesn't agree with your terms is utterly ridiculous. Now going out and pulling further economic sanctions because Hataria submitted and was put on Pending Status is just bull-shit.

With an even futher detailing of this, we never had economic trade routes in the first place. Also, why would you place sanctions on countries far more larger and far more powerful than that of your own? Wouldn't that bring about your own Economic decline?

Yes, I was ejected from the Global Alliance of Sovereign Nations. This is because the Governing Council agreed that I was a hot-head at times. It was even against Cravan's will (the founder). All of this can't really be used against me for this is my alliance, and all of that was in the past.

Now then, as Emperor of Dephire and founder of this alliance, cease all of these actions.

Hataria, sorry mate, but you did violate the regulations.

Clandonia Prime, cease your nuclear actions or I will be forced to act accordingly.

Thank you, and good bye.

~Signed, Lord Governor, Emperor Jonathan Vega-Scythis


OOC: I have also updated a few rules and regulations along with the members list.
Clandonia Prime
29-10-2006, 15:42
Official Clandonian Response
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/madnukedude/clandoniansmallflag.png

Clandonia has done no such tests, it is all lies of the facist government of Ackistan and their cronies of Europes! The last time a Clandonian weapon was used it was in anger against the Griffenfest Corporations wreckless attack using chemical weapons on Clandonian civillians.
Terror Incognitia
29-10-2006, 15:43
Incognitia will act as a full member of the alliance in support of any action necessitated by...misunderstandings...on the part of non-member nations.

While we do not support the alleged nuclear actions of Hataria and Clandonia Prime, we accept Dephire's reasoning, and will back that to the hilt.
Dephire
29-10-2006, 15:45
@ CP, Reply:
You have a week to prove that you have done no such tests. I'm sorry, but it is just what has to happen. I do not take the usage of Nuclear Weapons kindly, even if you did not use them recently. Yes, I had once possessed the power of a weapon capable of such power, but they were dismantled and sold due to logistical overhaul.

@ TI:
Thank you for your support. -smiles-
Maybe it will be an eye opener for all others.
Asgarnieu
29-10-2006, 19:02
Just to clear any misunderstandings I may have up; do we have to request permission to test weapons of mass destruction if we are testing them on our own lands, or just in international territory? I'm not really clear on this whole testing bit. Can someone correct/notify me about these regulations?
Naasha
29-10-2006, 19:14
A large piece of truly devastated land in south-west Naasha shows the Clandonian's use of a thermobaric (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11841438&postcount=47) device, when not even at war with our nation.

Clandonia executed large numbers of surrendering (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11804440&postcount=232) Naashans on the field of battle.

Clandonia's bombing (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11811705&postcount=255) of an airfield which was filled with Naashan refugees and foreign aid workers.

Naashan artillery is forced to return fire after Clandonia deploys gas canisters (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11811908&postcount=266).

Clandonia's use of orbital weapons (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11788970&postcount=42) on a populated city.

These are not nuclear weapons, but they do show continued mistreatment of WMD's and policy of indiscriminately attacking things.
Dephire
29-10-2006, 19:27
I would have to say that testing in general must be accepted, even if it is in your own national border.

Also, that does seem fit enough evidence for Clandonia PRim to be ejected. Further ruling will be discussed amongst the Council. Thank you.
Ackistan
29-10-2006, 19:31
Greetings once again from the Republic of Ackistan!

We are pleased that you have chosen to reconsider Hataria’s membership in your alliance. As Clandonia Prime’s recklessness seems to be open for debate, we wish to submit the following evidence:

While fighting a war with Blainesville, Clandonia Prime launches a first strike nuclear attack. The nation of Blainesville is a small country, which was surrounded on all sides by peaceful neighbors. Blainesville’s neighbors (including Ackistan) condemn this act, which put them in jeopardy. In retaliation, the Blackhelm Confederacy nukes Clandonia Prime severely.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=500670

After the war against Blainesville, the nation of Mationbuds offers Clandonia Prime 5,000 ICBM’s. Ackistan objects having recently seen Clandonia Prime detonate a nuke within 200 miles of Ackistan’s soil. Ackistan’s leadership institutes a blockade to keep these weapons from arriving. Blockading ships are chased off by Clandonia Prime’s allies.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=501575

After Clandonia Prime’s allies spent trillions of dollars rebuilding his nation, Clandonia Prime took part in an invasion of Naasha and Surdun. During the campaign, Clandonia Prime used orbital weaponry to lay waste to a third world country’s capital. He uses chemical weapons against them as well.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=502093

Eventually a peace agreement is reached in Naasha and Surdun in which Clandonia Prime agreed to remove his forces from the region. Clandonia Prime is caught red-handed violating the treaty.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=503698&highlight=Ackistan

When hostilities broke out again between Blainesville and Clandonia Prime, the nation of Chellis agreed to moderate peace talks between Clandonia Prime, Blainesville, and Ackistan (even though Ackistan had not yet fought with Clandonia Prime). In the midst of these peace proceedings, Clandonia Prime decides to mobilize for war against Ackistan without provocation.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=502520

After a brief war that resulted from Clandonia Prime’s aforementioned unwarranted aggression, new peace talks were held between my nation and Clandonia Prime. After being threatened with nuclear attacks many times by Clandonia Prime, my nation offers them a nuclear weapons reduction treaty. That nation refused, and claimed they would be reducing their nuclear arsenal to 800 warheads. A short while later, Clandonia Prime threatened to use thousands of nuclear weapons against my nation and a few others.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=503550

After refusing to sign a nuclear stockpile reduction treaty with my nation, Clandonia Prime is discovered keeping a stockpile of nuclear weapons at a Great Nari naval base. The weapons there are in violation of a treaty between Great Nari and Trivalvia. Even worse, Clandonia Prime’s weapons are insecure to the point they are captured by terrorists. Clandonia Prime lands troops on Trivalvia’s soil, and immediately uses chemical weapons against the terrorists. Against the wishes of neighboring countries, Clandonia Prime sends a fleet to the area, and demands Trivalvia remove their troops from their own sovereign territory. Clandonia Prime also threatens numerous nations with orbital weapons and thousands of nuclear weapons. Clandonia Prime eventually flees the region after being threatened by many nations.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=504339


Soon after the nuclear crisis in Trivalvia is over, Clandonia Prime congratulates the nation of Hataria for their successful nuclear tests. Hataria’s nuclear tests in the Mediterranean killed many innocent people without warning or provocation. Clandonia Prime also claims to have conducted frequent nuclear weapon tests themselves.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=504110

Clandonia Prime sends a fleet to the coast of Greater Morocco. As far as we can tell, those two nations had no past dealings with one another. Clandonia Prime threatens to turn Greater Morocco’s nation to glass if they do not turn over half their land to Clandonia Prime. Once again, Clandonia Prime’s is forced to turn tail and run, but only after killing an unknown number of civilians using air strikes.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=504592



At this time, Ackistan has only asked a few of our neighbors to impose economic sanctions against the ADAN, and wish to inform you that our actions are not endorsed by any alliance or organization at this time. It is our hope that these sanctions draw attention to Clandonia Prime’s misdeeds. We hope your alliance will make the right decision, and cease protecting Clandonia Prime. If you do not, we will likely call upon the international community to join us in sanctions, and we would not be surprised if there were many anti-ADAN protests in the near future.
Clandonia Prime
29-10-2006, 19:32
Official Clandonian Response
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/madnukedude/clandoniansmallflag.png

All Bolshivik lies from the failed dictorial state of Naasha, the Naashains are not to be trusted my fellow ADAN members. If it is to be belived it is a sad day for the orginisaiton.
Dephire
29-10-2006, 19:36
-Reads-

Clandonia, you are currently losing this arguement. Now if you have something that can actually be sufficient to counter this evidence, say so now.
Hurtful Thoughts
29-10-2006, 19:40
Well... I... did accidentally test some biological and chemical weapons on a somewhat well known island within my borders, and did jeopordize the lives of many outside my borders while doing so...

But that was a long time ago, sadly, we have recieved no word from Alidorian telegrams since the test...
Clandonia Prime
29-10-2006, 19:41
Official Clandonian Response
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/madnukedude/clandoniansmallflag.png

Ackistan, our patience wears thin with your nation be advised our military is several times more powerful than us. We Clandonians are fair warriors and we do not often call in our bigger allies to bail us out like you have often done. Your lies of events in Naasha, Ackistan attacked civillian targets in the war, there is evidence to suggest they used experimental weaponry. They have blined Clandonian satellites, destroyed several comercial units. The lies of the events at the naval bases are of the typical Ackistani sort, the lies of orbital weaponry all Bolshivik lies from the treachours backwater nation of Ackistan.
Hurtful Thoughts
29-10-2006, 19:43
All OOC
(OOCly, pretty sure he did)

ICly: there is no real proof...

And I wouldn't consider operational use of an experimental weapon as a 'weapons test' anyways, just a desparate act to end the war.
Carbandia
29-10-2006, 19:46
We, the people's republic of Carbandia, would like to join this alliance.

But would like to point out before hand, that if there will ever be a conflict between this and the GASN (heaven forbid) then our alliegance will be with the latter.

ooc: the latter bit was so that there wouldn't be any misunderstanding in case that would happen..Unlikely, sure, but it's best that it is said, than left unsaid, imo.
Dephire
29-10-2006, 19:50
I, as founder of the nation, endorse Carbandia and would like to welcome them aboard.

There shall be no conflict between the GASN and ADAN military-wise. I've tried being friends with them in the past, and so far it's held out. If there were a conflict, I will personally speak with Cravan and will try and talk it out.

Welcome aboard Carbandia.
Carbandia
29-10-2006, 19:53
I, as founder of the nation, endorse Carbandia and would like to welcome them aboard.

There shall be no conflict between the GASN and ADAN military-wise. I've tried being friends with them in the past, and so far it's held out. If there were a conflict, I will personally speak with Cravan and will try and talk it out.

Welcome aboard Carbandia.
We are glad to hear this, as, after all, these two alliances have more things in common, than they have differences.
We are glad to be aboard.

ooc: need to sort out my militarie's command structure when I have the time to..As the nation's gotten this big, I can't really go by the seat of my panths alone any more..
Chellis
29-10-2006, 20:01
Chellis has played an observer role in the events related to clandonia prime, and can verify that which Ackistan has told this alliance.
Dephire
29-10-2006, 20:02
Might I offer a position amongst one of the councils?

OOC:
We can help with that as well...and omg, I just noticed how young your nation is...
Dephire
29-10-2006, 20:03
Chellis has played an observer role in the events related to clandonia prime, and can verify that which Ackistan has told this alliance.

Then so be it. Clandonia Prime, our patience with you is wearing awefully thin. As soon as the rest of the Council Members have decided, then we will act accordingly.
Carbandia
29-10-2006, 20:10
Might I offer a position amongst one of the councils?

OOC:
We can help with that as well...and omg, I just noticed how young your nation is...
Your choice, of course, but we are not the largest nation around..

ooc: yea..Still do have plenty of rp expirience, just not in ns..Used to rp a lot on gaia before departing it..
Dephire
29-10-2006, 20:14
Hmm.
What are you more interested in?
Government
Military
Economy
Enforcement?
Carbandia
29-10-2006, 20:25
Hmm.
What are you more interested in?
Government
Military
Economy
Enforcement?
If it's ok, I'll get back to you on that one..Want to get a better grip on what I'd be getting myself into before deciding, if that is all right.
Omni-Sense
29-10-2006, 20:25
The High Council of Omni-Sense voted unanimously today to eject the debated nations from the peaceful alliance of ADAN.
Dephire
29-10-2006, 20:30
-nods-
That makes it two out of two so far.
Clandonia Prime
29-10-2006, 20:49
Official Clandonian Response
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/madnukedude/clandoniansmallflag.png


And so it has come to a sad day that due to overwelming pressure from my own allies that Clandonia is forced to leave the ADAN alliance over threats from Clandonian enemies who do nothing but lie and attack Clandonias soverignty worldwide.
Dephire
29-10-2006, 20:53
Farewell Clandonia Prime.

:cool:
Ackistan
29-10-2006, 21:07
Greetings from the Republic of Ackistan!

We wish to advise the ADAN that we are lifting all economic sanctions against your member nations. Plans for organizing international sanctions and protests have been halted. We encourage other sanctioning members to do the same.

At this time, there are no hard feelings on our part towards your alliance. My government believes this minor diplomatic incident was merely the result of a few bad apples. Once you were made aware of the misdeeds of the two nations in question, you reacted sensibly, and we respect that.

Best wishes,
Angelina Whittaker
Secretary of State
Dephire
29-10-2006, 21:09
Thank you. Now on another issue.

Fellow ADAN members and Affiliates, it has come to my attention that Clandonia Prime shall be acted upon. There has never been an ADAN operation in history, well let us excercise this power. What say you, ADAN?
Naasha
29-10-2006, 21:11
Naasha will also lift it's economic sanctions on the ADAN now that you have seen sense.

May we foster better relations in the future.
Ackistan
29-10-2006, 21:14
Thank you. Now on another issue.

Fellow ADAN members and Affiliates, it has come to my attention that Clandonia Prime shall be acted upon. There has never been an ADAN operation in history, well let us excercise this power. What say you, ADAN?

Greetings from the Republic of Ackistan!

We do not know what operation you are referring to. At this time, our government is not planning any sort of attack against Clandonia Prime, and we do not believe any of our allies are either.

Best wishes,
Angelina Whittaker
Secretary of State
Dephire
29-10-2006, 21:16
That is because it is an operation in which I have come up, not anything anyone would of thought about prior to...except possibly the CA.
Dephire
29-10-2006, 21:26
Nevermind. Issue is resolved. Go along my friends.
Terror Incognitia
30-10-2006, 12:57
In minor alliance news, Incognitia recently reformed their defence forces (had the budget choices come up, AT last).
While there will be a brief period of flux, our military will soon be up and swinging again - many personnel have already expressed an interest in returning to their former posts.
As such we will be able to take a full part in alliance actions, carrying our weight as a nation of 3.6 billion with a good economy ought.
Dephire
30-10-2006, 13:19
Congrats mate!
-Laughs evilly-
Well, I'm off to school.
Dephire
31-10-2006, 04:55
Alright, now the war on Hataria is more..refine.
Further Details later.
Dephire
08-11-2006, 07:05
We are still accepting new applicants!
Shazbotdom
08-11-2006, 07:12
We are still accepting new applicants!

Deph, I could give you Kraven's MSN if you got that program
Dephire
08-11-2006, 07:19
Of course I have MSN, it's under my name isn't it???
Shazbotdom
08-11-2006, 07:28
I'll TG it to ya.
Shazbotdom
08-11-2006, 07:31
Crap...he changed his display name on me.

It might take a little bit to figure it out.
Dephire
08-11-2006, 07:32
Alrighty....
0.0

Anyways, how are ya mate?
I hope you aren't at all disappointed in my most recent activity...
Terror Incognitia
18-11-2006, 17:57
As a notification (having checked the alliance rules) Incognitia intends to develop thermonuclear weapons.
We have the technology, we have the funding, we also have no intention to use them. We just want a deterrent.
Under our understanding of the alliance rules, only use of nuclear weapons requires alliance permission; we notify the other members as a courtesy.

Philip Kemp, Consilar-General.
Hurtful Thoughts
18-11-2006, 18:49
I'm not Military Council, so my opinion doesn't mean much.

But for what it is worth, I see no fault in the idea of possesing a deterant.
Carbandia
18-11-2006, 19:10
While we are in the same position, we agree..Of course nuclear weapons don't always work as a deterrant, but that's not pertinent here.
-Gen. Alekseyev, Defense minister
Dephire
01-12-2006, 01:02
Sorry guys. Still kinda not able to get online. Will be around soon enough!
Dephire
19-12-2006, 22:36
Taking in new members!
Dephire
04-02-2007, 00:35
It's been some time now.
The ADAN has not died. Join now!
Dephire
15-02-2007, 00:45
Roll Call!
The World Soviet Party
15-02-2007, 00:49
Im here.
Dephire
15-02-2007, 01:07
Thank god. I thought we were extinct!
Terror Incognitia
15-02-2007, 01:18
I'm here, just not doing much MT.
No Taxes
15-02-2007, 01:20
I am also here, as evidenced my response to the other ADAN thread.
Dephire
15-02-2007, 03:13
Well, I am thinking of just forgetting the other thread and moving on. For more details, please visit our site. (Just scroll down on the first post and click on the underlined word, 'website'.)
Hurtful Thoughts
15-02-2007, 04:20
*Answers roll call*

PROHT all present and accounted for.
Asgarnieu
15-02-2007, 04:52
"Yo!"

All members should check out the website for important information on the future of the ADAN.
Dephire
16-02-2007, 22:14
Good, PROHT is here.
Well, what Asgarnieu says is true, we are currently fixing some things within the alliance, and we need YOU!

So, members of the ADAN, come on down!
Bynzekistan
21-02-2007, 18:33
I write to apply for Bynzekistan's acceptance into the ADAN, on behalf of President Bynschev. If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to respond to this thread or TG me. More information about Bynzekistan can be found at the NSwiki page (see link in sig).

I sincerely hope this is the start of a strong relationship.

Linoc Duvaron
Bynzeki Minister of Foreign Affairs
Hurtful Thoughts
22-02-2007, 02:23
Good, PROHT is here.
Well, what Asgarnieu says is true, we are currently fixing some things within the alliance, and we need YOU!

So, members of the ADAN, come on down!

I never left the building...
I just woke up during roll call and bumped with my response.
Asgarnieu
23-02-2007, 01:54
Deph, what do you say about Bynzekistan? I am already allied with him...
Antigr
23-02-2007, 21:57
HEY! I'M BACK!
Antigr
23-02-2007, 22:00
As a member of ADAN and whatever ADAN councils I may be a member of (Actually, i'm not part of any, but, ya know...), I urge any non-members reading this to be a member!
Antigr
23-02-2007, 22:03
Hey, can i join the military council? I wanna do gun-related stuff.

:mp5:
Asgarnieu
24-02-2007, 04:00
Antigr, you are going to have to get used to some major upgrades to ADAN. Have you visited the forum lately?
Antigr
24-02-2007, 17:17
Antigr, you are going to have to get used to some major upgrades to ADAN. Have you visited the forum lately?

No, but i'm connnecting as i speak. What to look for and where?
(Sorry, but i've been away lately)
Asgarnieu
24-02-2007, 18:50
We're revamping just about everything...
Bynzekistan
25-02-2007, 08:09
Deph, what do you say about Bynzekistan? I am already allied with him...

Just curious to know if my nation is pending, accepted?

Sincerely,

Linoc Duvaron
Bynzeki Minister for Foreign Affairs
Asgarnieu
26-02-2007, 01:23
I'll see if I can put you on the Pending Member's List.

Also, you might want to check out the forums to get a head-start on the new stuff...

http://z10.invisionfree.com/ADAN/index.php
Dephire
26-02-2007, 06:07
Bynzekistan, you are automatically approved by the founding father of the alliance, me.

Antigr, we shall see.
Dephire
26-02-2007, 07:40
I have updated the members list.
Uldarious
27-02-2007, 10:03
Hey guys, well you tg'd me and I'm here.
I submit my application for the Incorporated States to join the ADAN.
Anything you need to know?
Dephire
27-02-2007, 20:04
Welcome aboard!
I guess you could submit a well written resume so that Asgarnieu and PROHT can screen you.
Asgarnieu
28-02-2007, 03:39
No need. I ran a full check. He's good-to-go. I reccommend that he is made a member ASAP.
Uldarious
28-02-2007, 11:46
Gee, are you guys in a war or something? You really seem to want me to be in this alliance.
Anyway, glad to be on board, when should I register on the offsite?
Asgarnieu
01-03-2007, 02:06
Gee, are you guys in a war or something? You really seem to want me to be in this alliance.
Anyway, glad to be on board, when should I register on the offsite?

Now if you want. Your background check was 100% clear.
Uldarious
01-03-2007, 07:51
Alright then I'll go do it now.
Dephire
03-03-2007, 04:55
Well everyone, I've made it to Oklahoma..but I still don't have a house. This means I won't be able to log on as often as I wanted to. I'll try to get on as often as permitted though!
Uldarious
03-03-2007, 11:47
O-K we understands, yes we do!
Seriously, hopefully nothing major comes up but I think we should be able to deal with a reduced level of activity.
Antigr
03-03-2007, 16:02
ATTENTION ALL ADAN MEMBERS!

Thread i wanna call to your attention, called 'the trial', by 'the world soviet party'
It's about the trial of some guy and he wants two judges from ADAN.
(As well as two from GASN and GUSN)

Thread link here: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=519610
South Adrea
03-03-2007, 17:55
The People's Republic of South Adrea wishes to join this alliance.
Dephire
04-03-2007, 21:52
South Adrea is now in pending.
Asgarnieu, you know the drill.
Asgarnieu
06-03-2007, 02:36
That's a big 10-4, Deph.
Asgarnieu
06-03-2007, 02:47
It is recommended that South Adrea be placed in the DAN due to its low population, but the check was clear.

South Adrea, you are now able to register on the forum;

http://z10.invisionfree.com/ADAN/index.php
Dephire
08-03-2007, 01:32
Alright, South Adrea has been added to the roster.

I too think that it would be best if they joined the DAN. More details on our site!!!
Dephire
10-03-2007, 08:09
We are still taking in new members!
Just post a submittance form!

Oh, fyi. We are about to update!
So keep watch for, ADAN 2.0!!!
Rebaltion
10-03-2007, 13:25
The Rogue Nation of Rebaltion would like to join the ADAN.

Rebaltion may not have alot of people or a large military, but the government can keep a cool head and will try to talk out a problem bebore jumping the gun and attacking a nation.

Rebaltion will also give any aid to any nation that requires it, no questions asked.
Omni-Sense
11-03-2007, 05:49
Dephire, you delete my account on the forums?
Dephire
11-03-2007, 07:17
I don't think I did, Omni. Probably just a system clean or something. Just re-apply.
Dephire
11-03-2007, 07:19
The Rogue Nation of Rebaltion would like to join the ADAN.

Rebaltion may not have alot of people or a large military, but the government can keep a cool head and will try to talk out a problem bebore jumping the gun and attacking a nation.

Rebaltion will also give any aid to any nation that requires it, no questions asked.

You are now on the pending list. Though our certified background scanner is currently offline, whenever he gets back he should have a look at you. Welcome aboard!
Honako
11-03-2007, 11:09
The nation of Honako is interested in this alliance. We are a small nation with a large military (for our size) which though is undertrained due to complusive military service.

We try to be a peaceful nation, though we will lend a helping hand to anyone when needed.

I also have a growing experience RPing of terrorism (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=519326), war (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=519669) and now a diplomatic conference (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=520163).
Dephire
11-03-2007, 11:14
You have been placed under pending status. Just wait a day or two for confirmation. Welcome aboard!
Antigr
16-03-2007, 21:06
Deph?

I know i've already being asking around, but no-one's listening to me, so, ah..

Can i join the military council?
Hurtful Thoughts
16-03-2007, 23:33
Deph?

I know i've already being asking around, but no-one's listening to me, so, ah..

Can i join the military council?

Didn't he already say yes?

Although, there are some changes occuring that may make the MC obsolete...

The [old] MC was pretty much blown out of water with the last eliminations I did to show how many active members we had. So I guess it will be alright if [Antigr] was on the MC. That is if we need an MC...
Posted: Mar 3 2007, 02:04 AM
http://z10.invisionfree.com/ADAN/index.php?showtopic=55
Antigr
17-03-2007, 17:23
Didn't he already say yes?

Although, there are some changes occuring that may make the MC obsolete...


Posted: Mar 3 2007, 02:04 AM
http://z10.invisionfree.com/ADAN/index.php?showtopic=55

Well, my name's not on the list, so i just have to assume that i'm not in it.
Until the list is changed.
Dephire
17-03-2007, 22:54
I'm not fully updating the 'lists' until our new thread is launched.
Dephire
17-03-2007, 23:29
Place your endorsements for Council positions!
Honako
18-03-2007, 00:28
So, how long does pending status last for this alliance, if I am deemed good enough to enter it.
Dephire
18-03-2007, 00:37
I looked into it personally, your in!
Honako
18-03-2007, 00:38
I looked into it personally, your in!

Oh, that was quick reponse. Thanks!
Dephire
18-03-2007, 00:47
No problem! Just check in on our offsite for details of ADAN 2.0!
Honako
18-03-2007, 00:54
No problem! Just check in on our offsite for details of ADAN 2.0!

I've signed up. I was wondering something, and thought I'd post it on here as it might get a quicker reponse. Sorry if it says somewhere, but what does the 'Justice Council' do?
Dephire
18-03-2007, 00:59
The 'Justice Council' is a new council that will be added to the current councils. These members will be upholding the laws, regulations, and other such things created by the Governing Council. They are pretty much the policing nations in that matter. I'll have more details in our new update to the pre-existing rough draft for the new ADAN.
Omni-Sense
18-03-2007, 23:50
UH... I kind of went post happy on the forums... (I think I made 20 or so posts in an hour)
Dephire
19-03-2007, 01:51
You crazy SOB....:p
Omni-Sense
19-03-2007, 02:14
You crazy SOB....:p

Many more things for you to respond to on the forums :p

Best be checkin all the threads :)
Dephire
19-03-2007, 02:37
I shall in a bit. Right now, pizza is coming to my doorstep. :D
AHSCA
19-03-2007, 02:44
To: The ADAN

From: The United Island States of AHSCA


AHSCA is still struggling to keep it's independence we would like to join this alliance to. In the past we were a series of seperated islands having no real unification. Stillstando or Truce as it is commonly known was just away from state hood but a bloody coupe upon an incumbent leader stopped that. We were soon invaded out of poltical spite, against our protectorate but the invasionary forces have withdrawn and it is unlikely that they will return as they are busy with their own forces. However HotDogs2 contiunes to refuse to recognize us as a full state, and still belives we are apart of them and that we are annexed by them. But that simply is not the case. We have declared our independence we have aired our greviences and we are ready to emerge on the international stage. If you'll let us. We don't have big army, we don't have wonderous technology we have spirit and we have will. We don't want to be protected forever, we want to be free and self reliant.
Dephire
19-03-2007, 23:21
Attention Leader of AHSCA:

"HotDogs 2 is, as a nation, a friend of the Dephirian people. They are also the co-founding nation of GDI. We are rather confused about this situation that you have brought forth upon us. The Dephirian people request evidence backing up your accusations of oppression by Hotdogs2."
Zackaroth
20-03-2007, 00:03
The nation of Zackaroth has been keen on joining ADAN for awhile now but has been a bit overwhelmed by some Internatinoal and at home poltics. Now though things have settled down we wish for admitance into the ADAN.

From,
James von Strangaild, Lord Governer and High Leader of Zackaroth.
Dephire
20-03-2007, 00:20
Welcome aboard.
Just check our forums, we are about to launch our new 2.0 thread.:p
Thank you for considering our alliance! :D

So, how are things?