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I know, I am new and shouldn't be writing about this, but I have been reading the forums for far longer than I have been on them. When I first began reading the forums, it was a long time ago, when Kraven cast a rain of terror over the NS world. Those were always great reads. People would be invaded, and would not usually whine cry and godmod, and others would rush to the defense of the invaded territory.Then, Kraven fell and there was a kind of dull period. Then after that, I read about how the Griffincrest Corporation constantly tried to gain new oil fields, and was foiled by the GASN. Now it seems like the GASN is gone, and with them, all capable RP'ers. I have read about 8 threads where Griffincrest asked to invade someone and was turned down. Then, when there was an attack, there was noone coming to the nations aidem and he crumbled. It was a terrible read. So now I must ask all of you people of NS, where are all of the capable people, who can actually write a war thread that people care about. There are fa to many stupid threads that do not belong in II. COME BACK WAR, COME BACK!

Eh, GASN isn't dead, just bogged down in a crappy RP it "isn't" involved in.

Chitzeland has slowed to a crawl, mostly because Wanderjar is on vacation for awhile. And because the thread starter (Chitzeland) has been semi-uofficially been declared dead about halfway through the 80+ page RP.

CA, for all its talk, doesn't want to fight GASN, but will still pick on the weak, and since the GASN is finally bogged down in the swampland of all RPs...

But now nobody wants to start a war for fear that the CA will take advantage, invade, and start dropping nukes whenever they feel like it.


So, in a statement, yes, the war between CA and GASN not only cooled down, but has frozen over...

In the meanime, a war between Questers and the GASN is about to break out over a silly matter that started when someone's decided to kill an ally's general with a cruise missile.

It is more about 'face', pride and honor than anything material.

I'll start calling one of them Petian and the other Fortunebrass...

I'm still here, and still raising Hell. :)

I wait silently........

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=498068

A work in progress--but hey. I don't see anyone else trying to storm the beaches of Kraven!

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=498068

A work in progress--but hey. I don't see anyone else trying to storm the beaches of Kraven!



Been there, done that. :P

It shows promise, and I have been watching it.

Wait, what is this about someone being declared dead half-way through a topic? I want to see this. D:

"Revolt and Revolution"

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=477731

Still on first page of International Incedents as I type this...

I've guessed that the player know as Chitzeland died unexpectedly (that or fell victim to loosing his computer, but which sounds better?).

Wanderjar felt sorry for him and took up the position of "New Chitzeland" for awhile.

Chitzeland:
Last Activity: 30-04-2006
Last post (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=10817461#post10817461)
Page 26, post #385

Thread now on:
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I killed Pudites with leaflets:
The rest of the 402nd Divisoin Charlie Brigade, 4th Battalion (402C4) Heavy Artillery (Rail) arived bringing the amount of land based rail guns to Four 18" (up to 300 mile range) Eight 14" (up to 200 mile range) and Eight 12" (up to 160 mile range) guns, and their crew of 550 men on 6 trains, each train was given a pair of 5" Mortars and HT-101 AFVs and 20 gaurds for self defense.

Their orders where to fire upon the Pudite fleets, which they began in earnest. As soon as someone told them where the Pudite ships where (have no artillery spotters yet, and you don't want me shooting 300 miles blind).

They decided that if no positions where given, they would shell Locke, the first shell the sent was packed with leaflets, which showed very vividly, a psuedo accurate representation of what was going to happebn to Locke, and at the bottom was a time. Tomarrow morning 0500 hours.

OTC-1 had expnded into 5 sub camps for various specialties (SERE, Sniper, Pilot, Artillery and, Combat Engineer) and the 1st Chitzland Special forces Division (Formerly reffered to as 1st Chitzland Division) was outfitted with more modern equipment, HT-101 AFVs instead of HT-501 Armored Cars, a small Air Force Training base was being set up, with UL-2000 and FMX-6B aircraft (The best frontline planes PROHT could spare).

The 1st Chitzland SF Division, aided by the 203rd PROHT Horse Division, and a part of the 2nd Marine Division, headed East, fording the many rivers, and building bridges... and railways. Their objectve was Locke.

Telegram
From: PROHT Ministry of Defense
To: Emporer Pudu
We are to regretably inform you that we are under orders to bomb - via our heavy bombers - the following cities that are under your occupation:

Locke
Yuri

We shall commence bombing tommarow at 0500 hours. For the meantime we shall spare your fleet if you choose to leave by sea at this time.

We strongly encourage a withdrawl of your troops and all civillains present from the above mentioned cities in order to prevent needless loss of human lives.

[end]
City of Locke, Pudite Defences, During PROHT army bombardment

The bombardment by enemy artillery was taken by the Pudite defenders very stoicly. The infantry prepared to man their defences, a total of over ten million men. These soldiers would defend the first wall along he edge of the city. The remaining forty million men would stay inside the city, guarding the further layers. Casualties were moderate, as most men had taken cover in prefabricated shelters brought over from the Dominion.

Yes, a horse division, as in guys on horses, attacking the tech advanced Pudites, and they retreated...

The 203rd Horse and 1st Chitzi later became involved in the Pelsgord/Ort counteroffensive, suffering many casualties (think Verdun or Stalingrad, and you'll get the idea)

Pudu also mistated that it was an Army bombardment, when in fact, the guns where manned by Marines...

I may have some things to say about dullness around here once I make a few contacts :)
Who says the Age of Sail is over? :)

[OOC: I'm still here as always, and shall be manuevering my ship-of-state around the NS world as long as I can, and as long as NS is around.]

Eh, GASN isn't dead, just bogged down in a crappy RP it "isn't" involved in...

I hope your not refering to my RP.

But to answer post #1. I'm here but like you there was a time when i spent more time reading than writing but i remember the days you speak of. Credonia, Guffingford and the days of RWC face-off with NATO and alas now they have moved one.

But as you can see many nations around then are around now and war is still rampant. Automagfreek is been in quite a few large and great war RP's and now there's The Passion PLay RP that involves myself but many other large and well respected nations from the time you speak of meeting to do battle against each other.

Personally i think II has livened up a lot since a year ago- or even a few months ago when FT rp's ruled for a good couple of months. Many great nations have left us but other remain of the old days.

I think RP expression and expansion suffers a little from these 'Earths' that restrict nations not on that 'earth' to not being included unless they join that earth', and if you do, it restricts you from RPing outside that Earth.

Many a time now I have read a promising and juicy RP to find out to my dissapointment that it is a 'Earth' RP only.

Another thing that concerns me over NationStates survivability is the urge of some to invade and systematically crush tiny nations, which, if the tiny nation is not just an irritating twit nOOb, can stifle new talent, new nation's stories from being explored, and deter new nations from posting.

As for FT, FT is all well and good, but too much of it can leave those out like myself who are old school and go with MT/PMT.


Of course, the easy thing to say is "well, why don't you create your own RP?" and indeed you could, but sometimes, you just want to find a RP, and look at it, and know it suits you, like dipping your toes into water, and finding it just 'right'.

As for Achmara's points:

Some NS giants have come, reigned, then fell into an abyss, some remembered well, others forgotten.

Kraven was/is a rising star, who made a name for himself admist the footsteps of giant nations, then went down in flames, but he always has a way of coming back and being resurrected, and he was not the first bad nation to surface, and I'm sure he won't be the last. I doubt it's the last we've seen the complete end of Kraven, he's been down before, and has come back.

Renowned powers like AMF are still a shadow that tower over all, and as someone who reads RPs more rather than partakes in them (Not much of a market for Soviet/communist/socialist nations being involved at the moment.)
I can tell you there is a clash of the titans coming up....AMF vs Melkor Unchained. The result could change the power structure within NS, but we'll see.

I know, I am new and shouldn't be writing about this, but I have been reading the forums for far longer than I have been on them. When I first began reading the forums, it was a long time ago, when Kraven cast a rain of terror over the NS world. Those were always great reads. People would be invaded, and would not usually whine cry and godmod, and others would rush to the defense of the invaded territory.Then, Kraven fell and there was a kind of dull period. Then after that, I read about how the Griffincrest Corporation constantly tried to gain new oil fields, and was foiled by the GASN. Now it seems like the GASN is gone, and with them, all capable RP'ers. I have read about 8 threads where Griffincrest asked to invade someone and was turned down. Then, when there was an attack, there was noone coming to the nations aidem and he crumbled. It was a terrible read. So now I must ask all of you people of NS, where are all of the capable people, who can actually write a war thread that people care about. There are fa to many stupid threads that do not belong in II. COME BACK WAR, COME BACK!

(OOC: If GASN and Kraven are your idea of the cream of II, then you're too much of a newb for your own good. Stick around a bit and you'll see some good shit, we promise. :D )

Chill man. School's starting for alot of us and we can't be on all the time. However I am starting some wars and, like you, I am hoping this place does get more active.

http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=498224

(OOC: If GASN and Kraven are your idea of the cream of II, then you're too much of a newb for your own good. Stick around a bit and you'll see some good shit, we promise. :D )
[OOC: Indeed, Velkya. The GASN is merely a bunch of younglings that have potential to become one of the more tier role-players like Sarzonia, Isselmere-Nieland and Praetonia. But if you want something better than just mere good war role-players Achmara, here's some more:

Azazia (excellent character developer and storyteller, now known as Oceania ICly)
Hamptonshire (like Azazia, excellent storyteller and character developer)
Pacitalia (same reasons as Hamptonshire and Azazia)
Van Luxemburg (see above, also does well at combat)
Listeneisse (likewise with VL)
Wingarde (see above)
Triancia (see above)
The Vuhifellian States (see VL reasons)

There. That's all the good role-players I know you could take advantage of from learning from, or at least a small taste of that.]

(OOC: If GASN and Kraven are your idea of the cream of II, then you're too much of a newb for your own good. Stick around a bit and you'll see some good shit, we promise. :D )

(OOC: Aye. I'll agree with that and add Blackhelm Confed to the list.

However, there is a lot happening. AMF is starting up a major war. Kraven is beginning a revolution followed by wars. Bunch of other stuff...

[OOC: Indeed, Velkya. The GASN is merely a bunch of younglings that have potential to become one of the more tier role-players like Sarzonia, Isselmere-Nieland and Praetonia...

[I would make some witty rebuttal to that statement saying how "generalizations are bad" and "not all of us are like that," but instead I'm going to shut my mouth and be thankful you were polite and courteous in your words.

And I agree with Southeast Asia. You can definitely learn things from those which he listed.]

[-snip- And I agree with Southeastasia. -snip-]
[OOC: Sigh, not again. ICly and OOCly, the proper name is Southeast Asia, not Southeastasia. Change it please, I'm not in the mood to explain....]

[OOC: Sigh, not again. ICly and OOCly, the proper name is Southeast Asia, not Southeastasia. Change it please, I'm not in the mood to explain....]

[Okay, okay... Christ, no need to be snappy about it.]

SEA, why don't you just put something in your sig?

(OOC: If GASN and Kraven are your idea of the cream of II, then you're too much of a newb for your own good. Stick around a bit and you'll see some good shit, we promise. :D )

*Aralonia grins maniacally.

Throughout my time here, which has lasted on and off from June 2004 to the present, I have noted several "ages" of International Incidents, dominated by various players, who have risen to the forefront and then back into the depths of obscurity.

Several times Automagfreek has come, bringing a storm of destruction in his wake, and then left again for just long enough to be forgotten by the newbies before he comes back. I remember Operation Hellfire, the FWS incident, the AMF invasions of Kahanistan and the Kraven Corporation, and other such things.

The Kraven Corporation, which cast a six-month reign of terror over International Incidents, has died a fiery death at the hands of AMF, experienced a fiery resurrection in Axis Nova, and then has vanished once more into obscurity with the loss of its slave states. We doubt TKC will return anytime soon.

Questers and the Questarian Commonwealth is now fairly powerful but hasn't done very much since the ViZion debacle in which half the Commonwealth had its collective rear end handed to it on a silver platter by the nations of Doomingsland and MassPwnage.

The days of NATO, RWC, ASDU, Metus, GDODAD, the Woodstock Pact, the WACL, and the Reich among many, many others are long over; those alliances have faded into the depths of memory for old-timers, and bedtime stories for the newbies. Several new alliances have come to power in recent months however, primarily the GASN, SL, and CAD, all of which are still active. There is also talk in certain channels of foundation of a new alliance, although that is technically top secret until it actually happens.

As for the void of "downright evil nation" left by TKC, there's always this guy (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11559578#post11559578)...

I've been here a long time, a year longer than my Join date suggests. and Like Czardas, I do remember the phases that II has gone through, with the big hitters gone inactive, or atleast I haven't seen. The Days of the APTO are long gone, and although AMF and melkor Unchained are continuing their fights, A lot of the old RP crew that I used to know has seemingly gone inactive. and as of right now, GASN's going through a rebuilding period, and hopefully will come out with the mud wiped off of it's face.

Meh. I have plans, but at this point I'm still putting my nation together, which is all for the best, as I haven't got the numbers to do anything major yet.

But, barring unforseen incidents, I hope to make a name for myself here.

Bed time stories for newbies? Kraven's threads are the only reason I haven't gotten any sleep the past few months.

... that's okay, nobody mention TIOR. I'll just KILL MYSELF, I mean... yah man so umm, pants. I like them.

Im willing to commit to my first RP War ever.

I'll have too sometime, and I need experience.

Im willing to commit to my first RP War ever.

I'll have too sometime, and I need experience.

I would be more than happy to give that to you.

I'm trying to get back into the swing of things, RL made me take a long break from RPing...But active or not, I'll never go away! The ASDU still exists, but only has about 11 members, only a handful of which are still active...I'm no longer the chair of the ASDU, for I was overthrown in a coup...lol, not really, just couldn't keep up with the work.

World Soviet is GASN by the way...

So if you want that massive CA/GASN war to thaw out enough to hit you over the head like a 100 pound chunk of ice...

Sure.

I would be more than happy to give that to you.

Ok, your country isnt too big for me.

One question though, do you have any place where I can check your military?

You know, guns, number of soldiers, divisions, OOCily of course.

(for the sake of RP'ing, my country has a coast resembling Germany's. you know, small =p)

Just make sure CA doesn't go on a "Nukequest"

Just make sure CA doesn't go on a "Nukequest"

Well, I dont have nukes myself.

And my army and cities arent that important sized, you know, to need nuking.

Ok, a few things. I wont use the CA, you dont use the GASN. Would you mind if I bring in my associate states (Achmara and Beiraq)? I know Beiraq has a military page.

Next, can I invade you, or are you invading me. It will be two entirely different armies depending on who is the aggresor.

And Hurtful Thoughts, did Undershis nuclear strike really get you that angry?

Ok, a few things. I wont use the CA, you dont use the GASN. Would you mind if I bring in my associate states (Achmara and Beiraq)? I know Beiraq has a military page.

Next, can I invade you, or are you invading me. It will be two entirely different armies depending on who is the aggresor.



Well, my country has a defensive military policy, we dont get into Military Ops. unless we have a very good reason, the President aproves, the people aprove and the Senate aproves.
My guess you'll be the one doing the invading.
However, if you bring your associate states, can I get one ally or two?

Next point to discuss, why are your forces invading...

Well, the ally, it depends, no offense to either associates, but they both suck. Achmara is new, and Beiraq is only a month old. Both, as far as I know use shitty RL tech.

I can attack because the GASN is weak now and we are exploiting it.

Well, the ally, it depends, no offense to either associates, but they both suck. Achmara is new, and Beiraq is only a month old. Both, as far as I know use shitty RL tech.

I can attack because the GASN is weak now and we are exploiting it.

Seems ok to me, though I use RL Tech too :D

Alright, I'll TG them. Should I make the thread now?

Ok, a few things. I wont use the CA, you dont use the GASN. Would you mind if I bring in my associate states (Achmara and Beiraq)? I know Beiraq has a military page.

Next, can I invade you, or are you invading me. It will be two entirely different armies depending on who is the aggresor.

And Hurtful Thoughts, did Undershis nuclear strike really get you that angry?

A debate over the use of tactical Nuclear weapons to quell uprisings/insurgencies got me banned from the NS draftroom...
(Tactics forum: Counter Insergency)
[that and "how to destroy SHBTs, SHBT design, use of horses in modern military, and reminding them I was supposed to be banned]

I also don't use nuclear power on any of my ships or power plants.

Hope that answers your question.

Alright, I'll TG them. Should I make the thread now?

Sure, go ahead *Goes buy some more fighter planes*

Both, as far as I know use shitty RL tech.

What's wrong with that? I've beaten FT players in the past, and I only use MT/ slight PMT.