Irans Defiance
New Ausha
02-09-2006, 08:01
September 19th, 2009-
CNN Special Report-
Tonight, the nation of Iran has just released photos, along with several videos, of a successfull nuclear test, of a crude nuclear weapon. Tehran boasts it has 4 more, and will use them, if the nations soverienty is threatened once more. As you know, roughly three years ago sanctions began on Iran, and the natuions economy has been in a steady decline. Too combat this, tax hikes have been keeping the goverment alive. About 7 months ago, Iran abandon all democratic utilization in its goverment, and now resembles a facist dictatorship/theocratic dictatorship, with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad as head of the goverment, and Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, supreme religous leader, and head of state.
President McCain has met with Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, 11 months ago, in an inconclusive conference.
"We can no longer talk. There is nothing left. After 3 long years, it has become all too clear. They are simply non-compliant."
This hinted millitary action, as naval NATO utilities have mobilized in the persian gulf.
In another turn of events, Iran, Venezula, Cuba, North Korea, Saudi Arabia and the new Iraqi goverment have formed the Coalition of Soverign Nations. This Coaliton, controlls the worlds oil market, and as of today, is cutting all oil shipments to the United States. This, is an effort, too quote : "Once and for all, starve the brutal imperialists into submission"
Cuba is under an extremely heavy blockade, as is venezula.
Iraq, as US troops withdrew in late 2007, immidietly saw revolution. Sadaam Hussein was rescued from his prison in northern Baghdad, and now rules the country again.
China and Russia seem silent, and are suspected of providing various materials to the Coalition, a direct defiance of the UNs 1293 proposal.
It seems that recently, Chineese officials have opened up full trade and aid to North Korea. This could hint, China's admittance into the coalition.
Afganistan has been a member for 3 weeks now
Libya was admitted, as of 2 hours ago.
Egypt is also eager to join, and is expected too be admitted this week.
The EU is in a severe internal battle, as too weather or not, cut ties with all the nations, or keep trade. This is debated in Canada, Mexico, Russia and Japan as well.
Ladies and gentlmen, we have a new cold war. The US has cut all ties with coalition nations, and expects NATO too do so as well. With the US's economy crashing, sending gas prices north of 6 dollars a gallon, something must be done. This could mean war. Negotiations have certainly achieved nothing.
Western Democratic Alliance
-USA- Anthyobia
-United Kingdom-Terror Incognita
Coalition of Soverign Nations
-Iran
-Iraq
-Cuba
-North Korea- New Ausha
-Venezula
-Nigeria- no taxes
-Saudi Arabia- Madnestan
-Egypt
Neutal Nations
-Germany- Borman
-France-kopparbergs
-Italy- Rustov
-Canada- Cyredel
-Russia- Neo-Erusea
-Japan- Warta Endor
OOC: Be fair in the RP keeping each nations economic situation and population in mind. Check wikipedia for your nations stats. Make a millitary force, out of you population and do as you wish. Neutral nations, join up or stay Neutral. Dont even suggest any more nations. 16 players is enough ^^
Below is an example on how too join up.
New Ausha
02-09-2006, 08:11
Desired Nation: North Korea (im gonna be north korea)
Wiki Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_korea
(please provide wiki link to confirm)
Population: (be sure too make a creative estimate, as the opoulation rise, from 2006-2009, for example, N.Korea was 23.1 million in 2006. Id expect 1.4 million more people too be born/immigrate in 3 years.) 24.5 million
Millitary (10% at most)- 2,400,000
Budget (look at wikis GDP, then expect 3 years growth. Mine is higher because of aid from china, Iran, etc)- 65 billion
Desired Nation: Italy
Wiki Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italy
Population: 59.1 million
Millitary: 430,000
Budget: 1.7 trillion
The Italian goverment was quick to feel the effect os the oil embargo. Gas prices soared, and the populace was angry.
Giorgio Napolitano, sat in his office, with his cabinet. In perfect Italian he began too speak.
"This has too end. Perhaps, joining the US, we can attack them into submission."
"Absolutly not!" Interjected an aid of his. If anything we should join the CSN! We can get our oil trade up again. We wont even be able too make war with them, as our oild stockpile is constantly depleting!"
The room fell silent with concurrence. They had reached an impass.
New Ausha
02-09-2006, 09:34
Rustov confirmed as Italy.
Neo-Erusea
02-09-2006, 13:44
Is there a Russia in this. PLEEEEEAAAASE.
Terror Incognitia
02-09-2006, 14:34
Desired nation: United Kingdom (if it's open).
Wiki: United Kingdom (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom)
Population: 62 million (extrapolating 1.5 mill rise 2001-2005, and 60.2 in 2005).
Military: 190,000 (present). So 200,000 allowing for some expansion of the Army due to rising tension.
GDP: 1.833 Trillion USD
COBRA had predictably met to handle this latest budding crisis. The Prime Minister, David Cameron, was looking concerned.
"How much of our requirement can be met from the North Sea fields?"
"Armed Forces, emergency services, some other essentials."
"And what stockpiles do we have?"
"Minimal."
"What options do we have?"
At this point the Energy Minister introduced one of his aides.
"John Nomara runs the unit for planning such eventualities, Prime Minister."
"Prime Minister, things are going to be tough. We are going to have to restrict electrical generation, while using what we have to the full for public transportation, especially trains, to keep the economy running. Harsh austerity measures are required to ensure hospitals and so on can keep running."
The Prime Minister at this point turned to the room at large.
"We can't go on like this. What options do we have, honestly?"
"Well sir, either we ensure a supply of oil, and fast...or we cripple our economy to changeover and do without."
"Right, we meet again same time tomorrow. By that time I want plans and recommendations. We'll doubtless have heard from the US, wanting to invade Iraq, and we'll need either to say yes or have an alternate plan."
The meeting dispersed. The mood was growing tense.
((OOC: I never really went for these things, but I must say one thing:
Using "President McCain" has made you one of my heroes.))
((Hence why NA is one of my heroes. McCain is my personal choice for the next election.))
Kopparbergs
02-09-2006, 14:52
Desired Nation: France – The French Republic
Wiki Link: France (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/France)
Population: 64.3 million 2009. (63.6 million in 2006 with an annual growth of 0.35%.)
Millitary (10% at most): 359,000 (RL-France)
Budget: 1.91 trillion (1.83 trillion in 2006 with an annual growth of 1.4%.)
OOC: This will be really fun. It feels just like taken right from a new book from Patrick Robinson – and I just love his books!
EDIT: Adjusted the military to the same as France has in RL, 2% was a bit much.
No Taxes
02-09-2006, 15:35
Desired Nation: Nigeria (if available)
Wikipedia: Nigeria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigeria)
Population: 143.3 million
Military: 1,433,000 (1% of pop)
GDP: 161 Billion USD
Nigeria was currently enjoying a huge windfall from skyrocketing oil prices. Most of the two million barrels per day being exported was going to the US, since many of the US's former suppliers of oil had stopped exports. Yet instability is still present somewhat in the Nigerian oil industry.
Meanwhile, President Atiku Abubakar had called a meeting to discuss this Coalition of Sovereign Nations.
"Currently this new alliance is greatly helping Nigeria. We are benefitting from the high prices caused by the oil shortage. Things seem fine the way they are, but does anyone think we should adopt a less neutral stance?"
"We should definitely not join the Coalition of Sovereign Nations," said the Interior Minister, "Stopping oil exports to the US would kill our economy. I say we try to go to maximum oil production to try and benefit even more from the high prices. If oil supply for countries like the US and UK doesn't increase soon they will start looking for alternative energy methods."
"My idea may sound somewhat radical to some of you," said the Defense Minister, "But I think we should openly join the side of the US and the UK. We can continue to benefit from exporting oil to them and with an alliance we could perhaps get some new military technology, as all branches of our Armed Forces are currently in rather bad condition."
The debate continued with several other ministers stating their views, but Abubakar payed little attention to them. The more he thought about the Defense Minister's idea, the more he liked it. So while for the time being, Nigeria would remain neutral and try to maximize oil production, he would certainly look into closer ties with the US and the UK.
Kopparbergs
02-09-2006, 17:35
A short introduction
The French Republic
Government
President (and Commander-in-Chief): Jacques Chirac
Prime Minister: Dominique de Villepin
Minister of Finance: Thierry Breton
Minister of Defense: Michèle Alliot-Marie
Minister of the Overseas France: François Baroin
Minister of Justice: Pascal Clément
Minister of Foreign Affairs: Philippe Douste-Blazy
Minister of the Interior: Nicolas Sarkozy
National Security Council
The President (and Commander-in-Chief): Jacques Chirac
Minister of Defense: Michèle Alliot-Marie
Minister of Finance: Thierry Breton
Minister of Foreign Affairs: Philippe Douste-Blazy
Head of staff of the Army (CEMA): General Robert Galley
Head of staff of the Air Force (CEMAA): General Charles Chanoine
Head of staff of the Navy (CEMM): Admiral Alain Oudot de Dainville
ALFOST (the Admiral in charge of the FOST - Strategic Oceanic Force): Vice Admiral Bertrand Renouvin
CSCOM (General in charge of Strategic Command): General Robert Hue
Paris, The Palais Bourbon, The official seat of the French National Assembly
The National Security council was in an important meeting. The world's economy was threatened by the CSN, and the fuel- and oil prices were skyrocketing all around Europe.
-We cannot continue like this. We must do something, I need suggestions. said President Chirac.
-Well, in my opinion we have four options. said Prime Minister de Villepin. He continued:
One. Negotiate with the CSN, and try to get lower oil prices for France. They certainly want something in favor for this, but we may come up with something.
Two. Make a NATO offensive, together with at least USA and UK, and get an end to the disturbances in the Middle East.
Three. Continue as we do today. This may not be an option to you, but it is...
Four. This is the least likely option, but it may be a good solution... Take control over a nation with large oil reserves, and we'll have near unlimited access to oil at no cost at all.
New Ausha
02-09-2006, 21:36
Is there a Russia in this. PLEEEEEAAAASE.
Fine. Get rid of mexico, and you can be russia. Make sure too do your request from the example.
New Ausha
02-09-2006, 21:42
OOC: I might be out of touch, but I thought he was one of the more plausible Republican contenders this time round?
Please dont even start hijacking th thread. Contribute or leave. Thanks.
Terror Incognitia
02-09-2006, 21:44
Please dont even start hijacking th thread. Contribute or leave. Thanks.
OOC: See the bit from me about the UK....
New Ausha
02-09-2006, 21:46
Desired Nation: Nigeria (if available)
Wikipedia: Nigeria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigeria)
Population: 143.3 million
Military: 100,000 (.07% of pop)
GDP: 161 Billion USD
Nigeria was currently enjoying a huge windfall from skyrocketing oil prices. Most of the two million barrels per day being exported was going to the US, since many of the US's former suppliers of oil had stopped exports. Yet instability is still present somewhat in the Nigerian oil industry.
Meanwhile, President Atiku Abubakar had called a meeting to discuss this Coalition of Sovereign Nations.
"Currently this new alliance is greatly helping Nigeria. We are benefitting from the high prices caused by the oil shortage. Things seem fine the way they are, but does anyone think we should adopt a less neutral stance?"
"We should definitely not join the Coalition of Sovereign Nations," said the Interior Minister, "Stopping oil exports to the US would kill our economy. I say we try to go to maximum oil production to try and benefit even more from the high prices. If oil supply for countries like the US and UK doesn't increase soon they will start looking for alternative energy methods."
"My idea may sound somewhat radical to some of you," said the Defense Minister, "But I think we should openly join the side of the US and the UK. We can continue to benefit from exporting oil to them and with an alliance we could perhaps get some new military technology, as all branches of our Armed Forces are currently in rather bad condition."
The debate continued with several other ministers stating their views, but Abubakar payed little attention to them. The more he thought about the Defense Minister's idea, the more he liked it. So while for the time being, Nigeria would remain neutral and try to maximize oil production, he would certainly look into closer ties with the US and the UK.
OOC: Confirmed, ill replace libya with nigeria.
New Ausha
02-09-2006, 21:48
OOC: Just too be clear, The Coaltion of Sovereign Nations is AGAINST the US and UK, and does NOT trade with them.
Warta Endor
02-09-2006, 22:07
Desired Nation: Japan
Wiki: Japan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan)
Population: 128,085,000 (population growth is stabalizing and slightly declining)
Military (10%): 12,808,500
GDP: $3.911 trillion
New Ausha
02-09-2006, 22:18
OOC: List updated
Kim Jong Ill sat on his chair, and took a deep drag from his cigar. "Its time, the US has finally withdrawn its troops, since the peace act in 2008. The South is weak."
"Sir, we dont need too invade. Chinas aid-"
"We will not live off the grace of other nations!" He was now standing, as if ready too pounch.
"Operation daring thrust is a go, exceute."
The generals fell slent.
All across the new border, 1.7 million members of the Korean Peoples Army stormed. The thousands of artillery pieces fired, striking Seoul, and other known defensive positions. Tanks rolled through forests. Planes struck enemy armor.
"How does it look?"
"The South was unprepared. All thier forces are scrambling."
"Good, make sure too blockade all ports as well, dont let any of them escape. Also, put all naval untis in a safeguard stance from Japan."
Kim Jong ill was pleased at recent developments. "All is going well gentlemen, contact Iran, I have some good news. Also, schedule a confrence, 4 weeks from now, for the leader of all Coalition members. We shall celebrate my victory then."
No Taxes
02-09-2006, 22:23
OOC: Confirmed, ill replace libya with nigeria.
OOC: Can I just be neutral?
Terror Incognitia
02-09-2006, 22:32
At the next cabinet meeting, there was no news from the USA...there were however two additional issues to consider.
First:
"Nigeria is wavering. Our course is obvious, is it not?"
"Yes, Prime Minister."
From: The United Kingdom
To: Nigeria
To be blunt, we will pay your price for your oil. Basic price: a market rate for the oil, and military protection from the CSN. Any other conditions on your side will be given fair consideration.
"South Korea...we have nothing in theatre, do we?"
"No Prime Minister."
"In that case the generic expressions of support, concrete aid to any guerillas if they lose, and offer to harbour any refugees/government in exile. Unless the Americans are able and willing to intervene, in which case we discuss again what we can spare. Agreed?"
Nods round the table.
No Taxes
02-09-2006, 23:18
At the next cabinet meeting, there was no news from the USA...there were however two additional issues to consider.
First:
"Nigeria is wavering. Our course is obvious, is it not?"
"Yes, Prime Minister."
From: The United Kingdom
To: Nigeria
To be blunt, we will pay your price for your oil. Basic price: a market rate for the oil, and military protection from the CSN. Any other conditions on your side will be given fair consideration.
Nigeria thanks the UK for their offer and we can assure you that we do not wish to join the CSA. We could even sell you oil for a less than market price if you are willing to help us upgrade our Armed Services to defend against the CSN. All branches, especially our Navy and Air Force are in need of a massive upgrade.
Terror Incognitia
02-09-2006, 23:32
Nigeria thanks the UK for their offer and we can assure you that we do not wish to join the CSA. We could even sell you oil for a less than market price if you are willing to help us upgrade our Armed Services to defend against the CSN. All branches, especially our Navy and Air Force are in need of a massive upgrade.
We would be prepared to offer, in exchange for oil at the market price, military equipment at a subsidised rate, with free 'training advisors', and a few places at Sandhurst, Dartmouth, Cranwell, and the Joint Staff College, for your officers. In addition, while you were supplying us with oil we would, of course, deploy our Armed Forces to defend you from any attack. As you must be aware, our need is desperate, and we would rather cut a deal with a nation such as yours and defend you than conquer an oil-rich country to secure our supply.
No Taxes
02-09-2006, 23:45
We would be prepared to offer, in exchange for oil at the market price, military equipment at a subsidised rate, with free 'training advisors', and a few places at Sandhurst, Dartmouth, Cranwell, and the Joint Staff College, for your officers. In addition, while you were supplying us with oil we would, of course, deploy our Armed Forces to defend you from any attack. As you must be aware, our need is desperate, and we would rather cut a deal with a nation such as yours and defend you than conquer an oil-rich country to secure our supply.
We are willing to accept this offer and we look forward to sending officers to your Academies and having your equipment and "training advisors" come to Nigeria. Already we have begun maximum production of oil because of the drop in supply recently.
Terror Incognitia
03-09-2006, 00:05
First, we welcome your decision. Nigeria's oil is as much as we need to sustain the UK economy.
In return, the Royal Navy has two Invincible Class aircraft carriers, several Type 42 destroyers, and some Type 23 Frigates, not currently commissioned and available for immediate sale. In addition we have certain mothballed stocks of aircraft also immediately available.
Alternatively you will soon be hearing from our main defence contractors with all that they have to offer, albeit on a longer timescale.
No Taxes
03-09-2006, 00:25
First, we welcome your decision. Nigeria's oil is as much as we need to sustain the UK economy.
In return, the Royal Navy has two Invincible Class aircraft carriers, several Type 42 destroyers, and some Type 23 Frigates, not currently commissioned and available for immediate sale. In addition we have certain mothballed stocks of aircraft also immediately available.
Alternatively you will soon be hearing from our main defence contractors with all that they have to offer, albeit on a longer timescale.
We will buy all of the naval vessels you mentioned for a subsidised price along with enough fighters and fighter/bombers to fill the two aircraft carriers. We are also interested in the long term in being able to produce a modern air superiority fighter, perhaps this is something we could take up with your defence contractors.
Kopparbergs
03-09-2006, 02:00
Paris, The Palais Bourbon, The French National Security Council
"God dammit, you're not making it easy for me, Villepin!" said President Chirac with a dejected voice.
"What do you other say? In my opinion it's clear that option three is out of the question, we cannot continue without doing anything. And the same goes for the first one – we have a policy here in France to never, ever negotiate with terrorists!" Chirac's voice was louder, he almost screamed.
He continued, now with a normal voice "and I think this is somewhat similar, we can consider them as terrorist, they're destroying the world's economy. Option one is therefore an illegal option."
The Minister of Defense, Michèle Alliot-Marie, raised and began to speak:
"Okay, so that leaves us with two options, if I understand you right, Mr. President. Either an invasion of a country to get our hands on their oil, or join the UK and USA in a NATO-campaign against these terrorists. Is that right, Mr. President?"
New Ausha
03-09-2006, 02:34
The soldiers of the KPA fought bravely with thier third world weapons. Some went so far as too use knives. In the end, the democratic south was too weak.
Seoul was captured, as 200,000 soldiers paraded through the streets.
*International Proclamation*
"It is over! The southern imperialists are defeated forever. Henceforth, the nation will be known as The Peoples Republic of Korea." Soldiers cheered in overwhelming support. We have the CSN too thank. This is one step, towards the fall of the west!" Cheers roared. Kim Jong got off his podium, and proceede backstage.
"Sir, resistince remains, in small pockets. We have made sure, no others will escape. All resistance groups have been arrested. About 275,000 in all."
"Kill 40,000."
"S-sir?"
"My firend, we cannot show weakness, if we are too defeat, our old foe, Japan."
The aid swallowed hard.
To: Nigeria
You have joined the west eh? You cannot hide it. I will inform Iran.
New Stats:
Population: 40.2 south koreans (8 million were able to escape too japan, etc.) plus 24 million equals 64.2 million Koreans.
Budget: 1 trillion, 54 billion
Millitary: 4,700,000
OOC: WE NEED A USA AND IRAN!! PLEASE PPL!
No Taxes
03-09-2006, 03:18
To: Nigeria
You have joined the west eh? You cannot hide it. I will inform Iran.
To: People's Republic of Korea
While we may have concluded a business agreement with the UK, why do you care who we trade with? We have not declared war on the CSN or even stopped recognizing the nations of the CSN. Though, do not believe that we will bow to threats from you or Iran.
New Ausha
03-09-2006, 03:40
TO: CSN
Italy wishes to join. We vow too cut all trade with the US. We request the oil trade between our nations too be re-instated, imidietly. Though we do not support the PRK, in thier attack, we are willing too open up economically too the alliance.
Borman Empire
03-09-2006, 04:26
Desired Nation: Germany
Wiki Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germany
Population:84,692,966
Millitary3,387,7189 (4%)
Budget 2.83 trillion
Borman Empire
03-09-2006, 06:11
The new president of Germany, Freidrech Von Haulstitz had his speech in hand as he adjusted the microphone. Shaking his shoulders a bit he laid down the sheaf of paper and looked out at the faces, blinding lights, and camera lenses.
“We’re live in 5...4…3…2…1…”
“I have made my promises which have gotten me elected, now I shall enact them. In the next six months government spending on welfare, in any and all forms, will be reduced each month. At the six month mark, it will be eliminated completely. In addition, other government expenditures will be decreasing in this six month period. By the end government spending on Social Welfare, Healthcare, Religion & Spirituality, Public Transport, The Environment, and Social Equality will be completely gone. Education subsidies will be reduced, yet not removed, more spending however will go to private education. At that same time in this six month period we shall be increasing spending dramatically in two areas, and again in a third. Spending shall primarily be increased in Commerce, including large ups in subsidies to business. Also of note before I continue, we will be reducing taxes on business. The second area which will receive increased spending is the military, both for defensive and otherwise purposes. Not saying I plan on declaring war on some neighbors of ours, but I want to be able to if we need to. And finally Law and Order will also be receiving increased funds.
Moving on I have good news for those who aren’t dumb enough to think the opposite is a good idea, there will be large tax cuts. I shall be rolling back the uniform tax amount to 30%, with the likely possibility it shall go down further. Now as all know, unemployment is a problem in our nation. There are many solutions, and I shall begin to work on some. With the more money going to people’s pockets I expect new businesses to open and more jobs to become available to these unemployed, however I realize it will likely not be enough. There will also be an expansion in our small ill-equipped for today’s army. The military is open to recruits and any who need a job and can not find it may go there.
Now on more of a foreign front, I would like to announce the decision I met with uniform agreement from my advisors. While still remaining within the European Union, we shall no longer use the Euro. We wish to, and shall have our own currency. Chaque Chirac, you do not own us! We have already begun re-creation of the Mark and shall be opening it to the German public within the week. You may bring your money to a bank and have it exchanged for Marks, in addition, money already held in banks will be converted.
As of now that is all, thank you very much.”
Germans with any sense of patriotism or semblance of intelligence exploded into applause and joy as Von Haulstitz left the stage, they were overcome with joy at his speech and the changes that would come. French and other Europeans in the audience had mixed reactions, some with open jaws, some cheering, some slowly clapping in bewilderment, and more.
Terror Incognitia
03-09-2006, 11:04
The Prime Minister was to make an address to the nation. Initial press releases were vague 'about the troubled times in which we find ourselves'. Every terrestrial channel would show it.
<And now, in a break from our usual schedule, we have the Prime Minister himself.>
"Ladies and Gentlemen. The world is in turmoil. Even as we speak, diplomatic deals are being struck, and decisions made, that will shape international relations for generations.
We, here, face the greatest challenge to our way of life since the Cold War, and perhaps beyond.
North Korea, along with the brutally oppressed South, Iran, Venezuala, Cuba, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, and Egypt, have joined in a coalition. None of these nations has more than a fig-leaf of democracy. None pays even passing notice to human rights. A witches brew of theocracies and dictatorships, you may be sure they want to destroy our way of life. That is in fact their stated aim.
This government has already struck a deal with Nigeria, which, along with our North Sea reserves, will keep Britain running. Other nations are not so fortunate, and we must stand firm with our allies in this time of troubles, because we WILL NOT" he had been building in emphasis for some time, and here was emphatic, certain "give in to threats and blackmail from ANYONE."
"I have, through the Foreign Office, issued a summons for both an EU and a NATO summit, in London, to discuss with our allies our response to this crisis. You may be assured that we will do whatever is necessary.
Thank you for your time."
*How did it go, Bill?*
*Great, Prime Minister. Initial approval is high - people feel safer now the Nigeria deal is in the open, and you appear on top of the situation.*
Terror Incognitia
03-09-2006, 11:13
"Before we go to the summit, a few private communiques."
"Of course, sir."
"First, to Germany - We trust that they will stand with us, both in Europe and in NATO, to make sure both organisations respond robustly.
Second, to France - Beg them not to go ballistic over the Euro withdrawal, knowing it'll cause shocks to both the Eurozone and Germany, suggest the Treasury may be able to help damp the shocks out, then ask for assurances they won't take the CSN lying down.
Third, Italy - Recognise they'll be hit hard by lack of oil...offer the surplus from the Nigeria deal, other support if necessary, in return for maintaining a united front. We may be too late there, best way to find out is make an offer.
Fourth, Nigeria - put them directly in touch with whatever part of DPA deals with old naval vessels and aircraft, etc. Far as I'm concerned they can have them all, but there'll be a lot of detail work there.
Oh, and finally, give our transatlantic cousins a great big kick up the arse, and ask them why they have not responded to anything yet. Golfing weekend? Of the entire State Dept and White House?"
His Civil Service aide saw that this Prime Minister would be more robust with the Americans than his predecessor.
(OOC: That's me agreeing that we need a USA).
Neo-Erusea
03-09-2006, 18:14
Desired Nation: Russia
Wiki Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia
(please provide wiki link to confirm)
Population: 2006 est. 142,400,000 (7th in world)
- 2002 census 145,164,000
Millitary (10% at most)- 4% $23.6 billion
Budget - GDP=768,437 million USD
President= Vladimir Putin
Postion= Nuetral, willing to sell weapons to anyone in hopes of restoring economy.
Desired Nation: Canada
Wiki Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada
Population: 32,547,200
Millitary - approx. 64,000 - CAN$13.9 billion
Budget - $1.105 trillion
Prime Minister - Stephen Harper
Neo-Erusea
03-09-2006, 18:36
In Russia, president Vladimir Putin steeped up with an idea. He turned to his aid and said, "Ivan, I just had a brilliant idea."
"What is it, sir?"
"As you may know, the west is in dire need for oil. They use it up like it is their currency. The US's emergancy storage can't last forever. But here in Siberia we have pockets of oil the size of Iraq. We can sell it, and once again Russia will be a superpower in the world."
"That is brilliant, sir. You must announce this."
The next day, Spetsnaz and FSB agents cleared out an area in the Red Square to make room for Putin's all-important announcement. Putin arrived in his limo, and prepared for his statement. "I would like to call the attention of the west. As you may know, the CSN has placed an oil embargo on Western Europe and North America. Soon the West's economy was dying, and your nations fell into dispare. However, Russia has plentiful amounts of crude oil. Rich, clean, crude oil. Companies such as Lukoil are being assisted by the Russian Federation to attain the crude oil. We invite the west to view Russia as a source for this valuable sustance.
Meanwhile Putin took into account dangers and moved much of the army placed ignorantly on the European front to areas in Siberia, securing and repairing vital railways that are a necessity to support the men. Russian units moved near the oil fields and gold deposites that would enrich Russia and send it on the right track in the 21st Century.
Neo-Erusea
03-09-2006, 18:37
Desired Nation: Russia
Wiki Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada
Population: 32,547,200
Millitary - approx. 64,000 - CAN$13.9 billion
Budget - $1.105 trillion
Prime Minister - Stephen Harper
I think you mean Cananda, buddy.
I think you mean Cananda, buddy.
Whoops. ^^
Terror Incognitia
03-09-2006, 19:35
The British Government welcomes Russia's stance, and will be pushing both the EU and NATO to liaise with Russia on this issue, so that full advantage can be taken of Russia's openness to trade.
SIC: Communiques to European and N. American capitals, cautioning against too great a dependence on Russia - this staves off trouble for now, but might build it up for later.
No Taxes
03-09-2006, 20:03
Nigeria's Navy was undergoing a massive expansion fueled by oil money. With hopefully 2 Invincible Class Carriers, 3 Type 42 Destroyers and 3 Type 23 Frigates hopefully coming from England, a lot of new sailors, mechanics, and various other jobs would be needed. Currently the Nigerian Navy only held 7000 men but to deal with the new ships a massive recruitment campaign for the Navy was going on across Nigeria. The new recruits would be the trained with the help of British officials and enrollment in the Naval Academy would be increasing. Shipyards at Apapa would be expanded to deal with the new ships coming in.
Nigeria's Air Force was also undergoing a revitalization. Many old aircraft needed new parts and repairs, which would be made soon. Nigeria was also in contact with British companies and the British government about acquiring and building new aircraft. It was hoped that sometime in the next couple of years, Nigeria would be able to build its own modern aircraft.
Meanwhile, the All Nigeria People's Party called for Nigeria to join the CSN. President Abukabar soon thereafter issued a statement saying that Nigeria would never join such a "bunch of terrorists and dictators".
Kopparbergs
03-09-2006, 20:20
Private communique to UK
We're worried over the German decision to introduce the D-mark again, but we have other things that need to be taken care of first. We're going to buy oil from Russia to solve the most urgent needs, but we need to make a more long lasting solution to this. We're considering the possibility of sending the Charles De Gaulle carrier to the Gulf, but we haven't heard anything from the Americans yet. We're coming to the summit in London to discuss things further.
Regarding the situation in Asia: we're considering the options there as well, but it seems like we cannot do anything about it. We're going to make contact with Japan about the situation.
OOC: Yeah, we REALLY need someone to play the USA.
Private communique to UK
OOC: Yeah, we REALLY need someone to play the USA.
OOC: Who wants to roleplay as Bush?
Neo-Erusea
03-09-2006, 20:31
OOC: I wouldn't mind but I'm a russofil my blood pressure spikes if I don't roleplay the russians;)
IC: We are pleased to see the West's stance in the current situation. The fact being the Russia has more oil than Iraq we can supply the west for quite a while.
The transitions of Russian forces into Siberia is complete. Many men seen on TV posed with their AK-74M assault rifles, and others turned away. Yet one who seemed to be drinking to much vodka went to the camera and yelled "Yob tyuoyo mat!" Several others around him started laughing.
"Yob tyuoyo mat!" Several others around him started laughing.
OOC: Rofl.
New Ausha
03-09-2006, 20:50
OOC: If you actually read the first page, you'd know that the US president is John McCain. ^_^
To: Saudi Arabi
We have an urgent problem. Russia has agreed to supply the west. This could sustain them for quite awhile. We need action. We need to hold a CSN summit. Perhaps in your country?
The soldiers marched in perfect lines. An aide whispered to Kim Jong.
"Sir the south has fallen, completely. The ports all closed. We are still recieveing aid from China."
"Good. Get me the panther company"
"Sir?"
The hangar was empty, with the exception of 200 well dressed Korean men. A tall, sturdy general paced back and fourth, as he belted orders.
"The Peoples Republic depends on you. This move will crush the western powers, once and for all. You know your training."
The men saluted smartly, and boarded the vehicles. All of which, were civilian.
To: Germany
Finally, the shackels of social welfare, and liberalism have left you. Now, I ask you, too join us. Our nations become stronger everyday. My nations economy was nearly destroyed after 50 years of cold war. Now, with one simple annexation, I have doubled my millitary, increased our budget by 12 times as musc, and tripled the population, of the glorious republic.
The southereners, at first, refused the north. But with re-unification (by the norths standard) the mood eased. Many found that the millitary was a far more glorious profession than thier money-hungry corporations.
-120,000 more soldiers join the KPA.
Madnestan
03-09-2006, 20:56
OOC: Is this how war is handled in this RP? :confused:
"My country moves into a NPC and conquers it."...? And, where were the Americans? I doubt they would have let NK just walk over South...
Neo-Erusea
03-09-2006, 21:00
True, but the US has to conserve fuel. Very complicated thread. Everyone has their own dark agendas.
Agreed? No. I'm trying to improve my economy. I sell to anyone.
New Ausha
03-09-2006, 21:11
OOC: Is this how war is handled in this RP? :confused:
"My country moves into a NPC and conquers it."...? And, where were the Americans? I doubt they would have let NK just walk over South...
That would make sense, but consider the US has gas prices north of 6 bucks a gallon, and can barely fuel air force one as it is, I dont think they'll be in a hurry. As for conquering the south, if you had actually read my posts (sigh) you would have known the border was recently made a normal border, and the tensions were eased. The norths attack was a surprise. I guess James Bond could have flown over too stop us.... Dammit brosnan....
Terror Incognitia
03-09-2006, 21:13
OOC: My take on the conquest of South Korea - the conquest itself is acceptable. Claiming that the South Koreans accept North Korean government isn't, really. They're used to prosperity and freedom, and have been thrown into occupation by a dictatorial and economically backward power. There's gonna be conflict there.
IC:
To: France
If you're planning an expedition to the Gulf, as long as we can agree aims, we'll help you win round our other friends to joining in. Much more likely to succeed that way.
To: Russia
Would you be interested in attending the upcoming summits in London? Certainly a lot of the attending nations would be interested to discuss matters with you, ourselves included.
Neo-Erusea
03-09-2006, 21:14
I dought taking over the south would have been hard. Most of NK and SK citizens just want a united Korea. I guess me and whoever's gonna be the US is at fault, hehe.
IC: To Britain:
Perhaps. We do not want to be sucked into any sides, but we are more than willing to create more stable trade between our countries. Like your agricultural products for our oil?
New Ausha
03-09-2006, 21:18
OOC: My take on the conquest of South Korea - the conquest itself is acceptable. Claiming that the South Koreans accept North Korean government isn't, really. They're used to prosperity and freedom, and have been thrown into occupation by a dictatorial and economically backward power. There's gonna be conflict there.
IC:
To: France
If you're planning an expedition to the Gulf, as long as we can agree aims, we'll help you win round our other friends to joining in. Much more likely to succeed that way.
To: Russia
Would you be interested in attending the upcoming summits in London? Certainly a lot of the attending nations would be interested to discuss matters with you, ourselves included.
OOC: Why oh why dont people read the WHOLE thread?
First off, 8 million LEFT THE COUNTRY!!!!! More want too. 225,000 were imprisoned (they wouldnt simply accept the goverment) 8.25 million people rebelling isnt exactly accepting a new goverment. As for everyone else, the penninsula has been divided for 60 years, and the north is now a softer, more compassionate regime. All these factors, and a state security man walking around with an AK, and they were bound too accept re-unification.
Warta Endor
03-09-2006, 21:34
ooc. I agree that the invasion of South Korea was...a bit rushed. But now I got a reason to rearm Japan :cool:
IC.
Japan opens it's doors for the flood of refugees coming from the Asian Mainland. Japanese Self Defense Force vessels are patrolling the Sea of Japan and Tsushima Strait to pickup refugees and repel any North Korean Attack. A South korean Government in Exile has been formed in Tokyo, and it is supported by Japan. Meanwhile, Prime Minister Shinzo Abe has announced that the Japanese Consitution will be changed, allowing the Self Defense Force to expand massively and to operate abroad. A Ground Force of 750000 men will be trained and equipped within at the most 12 months. Great Britain, the EU and the united States are contacted for the purchase of arms of all kinds (MBT's, APC's, especially Naval Vessels).
Nationalist Parties are jubilant about the change of the constitution but are worried about a possible North Korean attack.
Terror Incognitia
03-09-2006, 21:35
To: Russia
We are willing to trade most available products with you. If you ever wish to put our relations on another footing, we are prepared to consider that as well. We understand your point of view on not entangling yourselves, and wish you luck in staying out of the conflict that seems to be approaching us.
To: Japan
We are regrettably unable to sell you naval vessels at the present time as all our surplus is promised to Nigeria. However we can build ships for you, and sell you other weaponry. If we can assist with your refugee population, we will do that as well.
OOC: South Korea...I accept that 8 million, + imprisoned dissidents, plus more who want to leave, is a fair figure. I'm still a little dubious that eight million people would manage to leave, but I'll shut up about that because it really doesn't matter that much, and gets in the way of the RPing.
Neo-Erusea
03-09-2006, 21:44
To Bitain:
The Russian Federation would trade products such as agricultural products and hospital beds for our oil. (Russia has like 140 people for one hospital bed.)
Russian forces began to head south to the border with China and North Korea. Any attacks would surely come from here. Air bases in the area were being constructed to protect the skies over the oil fields and many advanced aircraft were being delivered their.
OOC: Why oh why dont people read the WHOLE thread?
First off, 8 million LEFT THE COUNTRY!!!!! More want too. 225,000 were imprisoned (they wouldnt simply accept the goverment) 8.25 million people rebelling isnt exactly accepting a new goverment. As for everyone else, the penninsula has been divided for 60 years, and the north is now a softer, more compassionate regime. All these factors, and a state security man walking around with an AK, and they were bound too accept re-unification.
OOC: Good, point Ausha
Italys adress:
We have decided to make germany our full allies. Along with Korea. And, russia of course. As for the US and UK we remain neutral, as our sympathies go to the CSN.
"Gentlemen, our ecomony is saved," said the economic minister.
"We have full oil trade from, Iran, Iraq. An next is Russia and Egypt."
To:Russia
we ask too open oil trade with you.
To: Saudi Arabia
We ask too open oil trade with a fellow CSN member.
To: Venezula
We ask too resume oil trade.
New Ausha
03-09-2006, 21:55
OOC: Please stop calling me north korea. Im the PRK now. Lol, Rustov look at our signatures.
To: Italy
As Japan has not blockaded us, we will begin trade with you.
International Declaration:
The Peoples Republic of Korea will open trade with China, Italy, Venezula, Taiwan, Thailand, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Kazakstan, Iraq, Afganistan, Cuba and Germany.
*Presidential Palace*
Smoke filled the room, as it had many times before. The economic minister sat nervously, in fron of kim.
"Sir, our economy has been saved, due to re-unification. Too maintain this, the opening of trade will help, and we will begin too turn a greater national GDP. Also, the oil and Chineese aid, is helping modernize our army. In a simple 6 month period, I guarantee-"
"That,"
The War minister interrupted.
"We can have a force of 500,000 men, well equipped and trained. Also, we are buyin Type 80 tanks from China at a very quick rate, along with improved rifles, and munitions. This, with a better air defense system, is a huge step towards modernazation."
"I am pleased gentlemen."
To: Japan
From: PRK
We have been enemies for too long. We need too open trade, my dear firend and ally. We must do this, for the benefit of our people. In exchange, I promise too sign a 12 month non-agression pact. Trade between our great nations will end in prosperity, for the both of us. Although, we also request the exiled goverment, too be sent too Seoul. Thank you.
-Kim jong Ill
Neo-Erusea
03-09-2006, 21:58
To: Italy
As previously mentioned the Russian Federation will trade with anyone and anything.
Meanwhile in Russia Putin was in the Kremlin, discussing what was going on in the world with his cabinet. "Comrades," started Putin, "What should we do? We have almost as much oil as the CSN, but I do not feel sympathetic to their cause. However, the West is blockading one of our major weapons buyers, Venezuela. Suggestions?"
"Comrade president, we must retain our neutriality. What is NATO and the CSN went to war. Picture this. Our economy will be boosted tenfold by the West buying our oil and the CSN buying our weapons. All we have to do is wait, and Russia will once again be a superpower!"
Terror Incognitia
03-09-2006, 21:58
<The Government today expressed concern at the attitude of the Italian Government. A Government spokesman said
"Italy is moving towards nations with no respect for democracy or human rights, and abandoning her traditional allies to negotiate with terrorists. We will be urging both NATO and the EU to censure and maybe expel Italy for this behaviour."
BBC >
National Adress:
We are not afraid of the EU! Too long have they forced resoltuions, that have done nothing but damage our nation! The welfare state is not a state of the future! The UK is a nation of welfare cheeting cowards! From here on in, we ceceed from the opressive UN! And join Germany! We revert too our previous currency. Though we will remain a democracy!
No Taxes
03-09-2006, 22:15
"Sir, our economy has been saved, due to re-unification. Too maintain this, the opening of trade will help, and we will begin too turn a greater national GDP. Also, the oil and Chineese aid, is helping modernize our army. In a simple 6 month period, I guarantee-"
OOC: I doubt that reunification would help your economy. While South Korea's economy was very powerful, if North Korea invaded South Korea's economy would go downhill very fast. Companies would flee not wanting to do business in a dictatorship. So while conquering South Korea might help your economy in the long term, your economy, already very fragile before the war, would probably be wrecked by a war along with South Korea's economy.
Neo-Erusea
03-09-2006, 22:17
Actually, I think he's got a point there, PRK.
Terror Incognitia
03-09-2006, 22:27
National Adress:
We are not afraid of the EU! Too long have they forced resoltuions, that have done nothing but damage our nation! The welfare state is not a state of the future! The UK is a nation of welfare cheeting cowards! From here on in, we ceceed from the opressive UN! And join Germany! We revert too our previous currency. Though we will remain a democracy!
To:Italy
At last communication, our relations with Germany were warm. While they have withdrawn from the Euro, they have not allied with terrorists. As you may have noticed, Germany's withdrawal from the Euro leaves them merely joining ourselves with an independent currency. And if the infrastructure of half your country is nothing but damage, you have an interesting grasp on reality.
We empathise with your people in this difficult time, and hope that they will change their government at the earliest opportunity, if you do not come to your senses.
At least, if you are going to engage in this folly, do not burn your bridges by descending to childish insults.
Love and Kisses, Her Majesty's Government.
New Ausha
03-09-2006, 22:32
The koreans smiled warmly, as they observed the Russian workmen. The tour guide, a tall woman, spoke in fluent Korean, as they proceed down the hallway.
They were in the Lukoil Headquarters, in southwestern russia.
As the tour women turned around and smiled, one of the members rushed her, neatly sticking a knife in her throat. The others pulled out thier assorted pistols.
The leader began too shout in Laoshin.
"Move out!"
They moved silently, chokind and stabbing guards here and there. They neatly placed chewing gun (which was cleverly C4) they placed these on pipes.
Minutes later, they had re-grouped outside the facility. They all shook there heads in agreement. The leadrer hit the button.
The oil burned, destroying the entire plant, in a single explosion. The men then checked too make sure they had there Laoshin national ID's, and began too escape, towards China.
Similar attack were too take place across the country.
PRK allys with Laos and Vietnam.
Kim Jong sat in his room, with a trusted general of his.
"What is the probability of such an attack suceeding?"
"70% sir."
"Deploy 300,000 troops. Get together all our naval units too begin right away."
The Peoples army was on high alert, as a massive explosions rocked the Haeju waterfront.
This was an ellaborate hoax.
"People of Korea!"
Kim began.
"The dogs of Vietnam have attacked! We all know what must be done!"
Inside Vietnam, a group of Korean sympathizers, who had been active since 1973, believed adamantly, that the stronger communists had too overcome the weaker. As the declaration rang out on Vietnameese radio, it had begun.
The group began too fire AK's into the air, and overun millitary bases. Ports were closed by these terrorists.
New Ausha
03-09-2006, 22:36
OOC: I doubt that reunification would help your economy. While South Korea's economy was very powerful, if North Korea invaded South Korea's economy would go downhill very fast. Companies would flee not wanting to do business in a dictatorship. So while conquering South Korea might help your economy in the long term, your economy, already very fragile before the war, would probably be wrecked by a war along with South Korea's economy.
Good point, but misguided. South Koreas gold and monetary resereves have been taken over. As for the companies, well most simply cant export, with language, cost of moving, loss of ALL korean clients. Under the new regime private companies, however small (about 20% of industry is now private) may operate. So the ceased reserves would balance out the economy, and the new foreign trade policy would as well. This along with taxes ALL going too one goverment, would have the economy rise. As for you no taxes, your nigeria right? Strange you found the money too buy from britan, yet remain allied too the oil producing countries. Puzzling...
No Taxes
03-09-2006, 22:39
Strange you found the money too buy from britan, yet remain allied too the oil producing countries. Puzzling...
OOC: I already asked if I could be neutral. When the RP started Nigeria was not a member of the CSN, but then after I claimed you put Nigeria in the CSN. So I say once again, I do not wish to be in the CSN, I just want to be neutral. Should I RP that or do I not need to?
Neo-Erusea
03-09-2006, 22:40
"Comrade president, there has been an attack in Russia!"
"What!?! Who did it! How much have we lost?"
"180,000 liters of crude oil, sir. We have closed the borders. No one will come in or out. However, this has no effect on our plans. We still have plenty of oil. Too much of it. My only regret is that we couldn't get any money out of this. I have my bets on the CSN. They must have been annoyed that we were supplying the West."
"Cut off all trade with the CSN. We are now at Voyska PVO 2."
"Yes sir, comrade president!"
***
Back in Siberia, Russian forces closed the checkpoints to Mongolia, China, and Korea. T-90 tanks began rolling, prepared for war.
Terror Incognitia
03-09-2006, 22:40
Ok, minor problemo here. I've accepted South Korea. But any more conquest of NPC territory by Korea needs someone to RP defence.
Terror Incognitia
03-09-2006, 22:43
"Comrade president, there has been an attack in Russia!"
"What!?! Who did it! How much have we lost?"
"180,000 liters of crude oil, sir. We have closed the borders. No one will come in or out. However, this has no effect on our plans. We still have plenty of oil. Too much of it. My only regret is that we couldn't get any money out of this. I have my bets on the CSN. They must have been annoyed that we were supplying the West."
"Cut off all trade with the CSN. We are now at Voyska PVO 2."
"Yes sir, comrade president!"
***
Back in Siberia, Russian forces closed the checkpoints to Mongolia, China, and Korea. T-90 tanks began rolling, prepared for war.
"Our Russian friends, if you are moving to a more aggressive posture regarding the CSN, you may wish to consider liaising with their other opponents. We speak respecting the incident at one of your refineries, as we are sure you are aware."
No Taxes
03-09-2006, 22:47
Nigeria's Representative to the Commonwealth of Nations (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_of_Nations) has called for all members of the Commonwealth to cease diplomatic relations and cut off all trade with all the CSN nations as they are nothing more than oppressive dictatorships who support terrorists. We remind the world that though, some might have thought we were members of the CSN, Nigeria is not a member of the CSN.
Neo-Erusea
03-09-2006, 22:49
Indeed. We will become friendlier with NATO. We did not wish to get involved in this conflict. But we have been attacked with aggresion. We all dought that it was the Chechans.
OOC: You guys remember whom you're dealing with. Russia still has the most nukes in the world and the second largest military. Sided with the US and NATO, CSN cannot win. Iran has a couple of nukes, so what, they are not all powerful now. Russia couldn't defeat Afghanistan becasue they had mountains to hide in. Iran and Iraq does not. Russia can sweep them aside.
New Ausha
03-09-2006, 22:59
Indeed. We will become friendlier with NATO. We did not wish to get involved in this conflict. But we have been attacked with aggresion. We all dought that it was the Chechans.
OOC: You guys remember whom you're dealing with. Russia still has the most nukes in the world and the second largest military. Sided with the US and NATO, CSN cannot win. Iran has a couple of nukes, so what, they are not all powerful now. Russia couldn't defeat Afghanistan becasue they had mountains to hide in. Iran and Iraq does not. Russia can sweep them aside.
OOC: Thats pretty dumb. So somebody says Hmmmm somebody dun destroyed our oils cletus. It was dem CSN people probably. Lets cut trade with dem. That just doesnt work for me. Where is the evidence? None. Cutting oil trade with dozens of nations on a hunch? nuh-uh. Keep in mind your fuel supply is now damaged, and too get the oil too britan, you have a ways too go.
As for Nigeria, you now lose all oil shipments from Iran, Iraq, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Russia (they have closed off) Venezula, etc. Your economy will collapse soon, too be realistic.
As for Vietnam, its not a major player, why not let me have it?
The Transports landed, and with the help of the internal terrorists, began there march into the country. The Vietnameese Defense, was tough, with planes striking transports. Infantry was highly, unready and is taking long too mobilize.
-Korean bombers hit capital
-40,000 troops have landed
-Supply ships unloading
-Terrorists holding vietnameese cabinet hostage
-1,000 Koreans killed, due too vietnameese bombings.
To: Russia
Why have you cut off oil? Who perpatrated the attack? What are the names of the offenders?
OOC: WE NEED A USA AND IRAN!!!!
Neo-Erusea
03-09-2006, 23:03
Maybe that was a bit drastic. I take that back, but the closed border thing and the tanks is still there. and that Russia has more oil than Suadi Arabia...
Terror Incognitia
03-09-2006, 23:04
<The Government called today, in the UK's capacity as primus inter pares amongst the Commonwealth, for the other member states to support the proposal put by Nigeria. The CSN is a menace to members in good standing of the international community.
Just as a matter of courtesy, the Prime Minister wishes to inform the members of the Commonwealth that the ongoing programme of waste reduction in Britain's public services has freed up funding which is being redirected to the Department for International Development; and it has been decided that we have neglected our Commonwealth friends for too long. The majority of these funds will be directed to Commonwealth projects and Member States.>
No Taxes
03-09-2006, 23:10
As for Nigeria, you now lose all oil shipments from Iran, Iraq, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Russia (they have closed off) Venezula, etc. Your economy will collapse soon, too be realistic.
OOC: You realize that Nigeria is a major oil exporter right? We don't need any oil from the CSN.
New Ausha
03-09-2006, 23:11
Maybe that was a bit drastic. I take that back, but the closed border thing and the tanks is still there. and that Russia has more oil than Suadi Arabia...
TO:RUSSIA
We are deeply disturbed by the attacks on you nation. Though it seems the situation is over. We ask too begin buying oil and fuel from you. China is providing us with medical, food, crops, weapons, etc, but no fuel. We are willing too pay. We also ask that you not be alarmed by the retaliation on Vietnam. Thank you.
OOC: Nigeria you lose all trade basically from the mid east. Your economy is doing so good.
Terror Incognitia
03-09-2006, 23:12
OOC: Thats pretty dumb. So somebody says Hmmmm somebody dun destroyed our oils cletus. It was dem CSN people probably. Lets cut trade with dem. That just doesnt work for me. Where is the evidence? None. Cutting oil trade with dozens of nations on a hunch? nuh-uh. Keep in mind your fuel supply is now damaged, and too get the oil too britan, you have a ways too go.
As for Nigeria, you now lose all oil shipments from Iran, Iraq, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Russia (they have closed off) Venezula, etc. Your economy will collapse soon, to be realistic.
As for Vietnam, its not a major player, why not let me have it?
OOC: WE NEED A USA AND IRAN!!!!
OOC: Why does Nigeria need the CSN? As a net exporter of 2.5 million bpd, they're covering Britain's shortfall in petroleum, and trade with UK, rest of EU, USA, the Commonwealth and West Africa is going to be much, much more significant than the CSN.
And on that note, while Europe as a whole will want a lot of Russian oil, we don't. The transport can be solved in a number of ways, from short to long term.
Neo-Erusea
03-09-2006, 23:15
To: People's Republic of Korea: Very well. We need to strengthen our economy. However will trade with anyone who requests it, and tours to the factories are no longer allowed by Lukoil.
To: Britain: I am telling you something from RL. Oil from Siberia is actually easier to process into gasoline and other products than most others. I don't know why, I'm not an expert on oil, but I've read it before. For that reason it would help you're economy if you don't cut yourself off from Russia.
No Taxes
03-09-2006, 23:19
OOC: Nigeria you lose all trade basically from the mid east. Your economy is doing so good.
OOC: Nigeria hardly trades with the mid east. Its major trading partners are: U.S., Brazil, Spain, China, UK, Netherlands, France, Germany. Also, its probably doing better than the economies of the CSN since every major power except for China has cut off trade with you.
Terror Incognitia
03-09-2006, 23:28
OOC: I'm doing too much OOC, but I'm short of options right now. I'll try to cut it down. To Russia, interesting new fact. I can't think how to work it into a government communique right now, but I didn't mean cut off from Russian supplies, just that Nigeria gives us the raw quantity we need.
Neo-Erusea
03-09-2006, 23:36
OOC: I just sent a couple of TGs to nations I know, maybe they might join. *Crosses fingers*
Oh, and I don't think the CSN will have any problems economy wise. They have a lot of oil they can export to alot of countries.
New Ausha
03-09-2006, 23:38
OOC: Too imply the CSN has no trade, that is completely worng. Along with FULL internal trade with Iran, Korea, Iraq, Venezula, China (non-member but trades), Russia (non-member but trades), Cuba, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and Germany. We have an excellent trade network that rivals yours.
-Korea opens trade with Holland, Belgium, Austria, Switzerland, Poland, Denmark, and Norway. Advises all CSN too do the same.
-Korean troops still landing in Vietnam (65,000/300,000)
-Korean Tanks unloadind (50)
-Planes hit Vietnameese armor, vehicles
-1,500 More Korean troops have died (2,500 total)
-(on a sensible estimate) 1,300 Vietnameese troops have died
-Terrorists in Vietnam convincing entire divisions to throw down arms, vietnam now in civil war. Korea and spereatists against loyalists
New Ausha
04-09-2006, 01:54
Map: http://img168.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vnnsvq7.gif
Blue: Korean Forces
Red: Airstrikes
-Korean Soldiers unloading (210,000)
-Tanks unloading (193)
-Artillery unloading (73)
-Naval units pounding coastline
-Hanoi under serious bombardment
-Nearly all south Vietnam under seperatist controll
-Hanoi remains the loyalist stronghold
Italian Proclamation:
We have hereby abandon the Euro, and most social programs. We enter a new era, of prosperity. We ally with the CSN, and refuse all trade too the UK from here out. We except korean trade, and offer Russia a trade agreement. We thank the CSN for the oil surplus.
Neo-Erusea
04-09-2006, 02:15
To: Italy:
What sort of trade agreement? Military equipment or oil?
To: Italy:
What sort of trade agreement? Military equipment or oil?
We are not interested in a millitary. We'd prefer oil and fuel.
Neo-Erusea
04-09-2006, 02:31
Very well. In return for oil mother Russia requires hospial beds and medical equipment.
Very well. In return for oil mother Russia requires hospial beds and medical equipment.
Agreed.
New Ausha
04-09-2006, 08:00
Speech:
Today, the nation of Vietnam, has joined us, in our struggle for independance!
The crowd cheered wildly. The people of Vietnam were ready for a less opressive, but avidly socialist goverment.
-300,000 previous south koreans re-captured
-3,200,000 Vietnameese escape to China
-The Peoples republic of Korea now has a population of 146 million, purge of country underway
-The Peoples army of Vietnam has fused with the PRK army, too form the USSK, armed forces. Total USSK millitary: 8,700,000
-2.1 million Vietnameese jailed. Some 400,000 expected too be released soon
-Vietnameese goverment captured, forced too capitulate
-Budget of USSK: 1,302,000,000
*Korean News Agency*
Stunning news today. Kim Jong Ill, our glorious leader, has agreed to allow for elections. The newly occupied people of Vietnam, are welcome to vote. The elction will take place in 1.5 years. The challenger, General Song, has some radical changes in mind, for the newly formed, USSK (United Socialist States of Korea)
Policies:
-30% private, 70% state industry in general
-Free elections
-Welfare/food/aid programs too populace
-Stronger millitary (navy in particular)
-Opening/maintaining international trade
-Beggining fuel, medical, food, oil reserves, for times of crisis
-Less restrictive social laws
-Clean up roads, cities, towns
-Millitary budget down from 35% of budget too 12% of budget.
General song, and Kim Jong sat in Kims office, while only an honor guard, stood at the door.
"The polls favor you. Now that I have lessend restrictions on the media, by about 35%. There is no freedom of speech, which always leads too goverment bashing."
He handed the paper too Song. it read:
Support in 2010 elections:
Song: 74%
Kim: 16%
Song smiled.
"You sure, your up for a campaign?"
Kim smiled.
Warta Endor
04-09-2006, 09:30
ooc. Wait a minute, in a few RL hours, North Korea takes over Vietnam? I hope you do remember that North Korea has the suckiest Navy in East Asia and seriously can not move hundreds of thousands over a distance of thousands of kilometers?
Terror Incognitia
04-09-2006, 10:59
OOC: Much more of this and I withdraw from this RP.
1) Vietnam, a nation that has successfully withstood the USA and China, has apparently fallen to Korea, which even if it has the military capacity, lacks the naval power to transport troops to Vietnam. Please advise of any RL Korean (North or South) ability to transport even 100 fighting men that far, through the Vietnamese Navy.
2) Apparently opening trade with Denmark, Norway, Belgium, Netherlands, Austria, Switzerland and Poland. You've named most of the nations in Europe with sufficient social conscience to not trade with a nation such as yours; and taken control of NPCs again.
IC: <Welcome to the News at 10. North Korea is claiming to hold Vietnam; reports from the Vietnamese are patchy; this may represent self-propagandising, or may be another unexpected conquest for the despicable Korean regime.
In other international news, a proposal has been placed before the EU Council of Ministers, and simultaneously before the European Parliament.
It proposes the suspension of all trade with Italy until such time as they turn away from the CSN; and suspension of all trade between the EU and the CSN.
Support is mounting, and though France and Germany have yet to announce a view, if it takes much longer the matter may be taken out of their hands and passed by QMV.>
We mustl join the WDA, we can take more of a backseat on this. But we must do something.” The cabinet nodded. “Mobilize our forces and let’s send a message to the Brits.” Harper said, "Doing nothing is too big of a risk."
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To the UK: We would like to join the WDA, as we think it is for the best of our nation. Our forces are moblizeing if there's direct agression to our WDA and NATO allies, our forces will go on the offensive. Are you planing to attack the CSN?
- Canda puts her forces on yellow alert.
- Canda cuts off all trade with the CSN and Italy.
Terror Incognitia
04-09-2006, 11:22
To: Canada
Our Canadian friends, we never had any real doubts you would join us, but confirmation is welcome.
We are dusting off old SAGs and considering our strategic options - any action will go through NATO - but we're working on the assumption of military strikes in the most appropriate places to shatter the CSN, then dealing in a civilised manner with any governments that decide to reconsider. The salvation/liberation of Vietnam is likely to be an early move. Combination of what oil supplies we can access, with IEA reserves, should suffice for now. We need to play on our rules, not our enemies'.
Abbreviations:
SAG - studies assumptions group. Basically wargaming possible threats and responses for the UK.
IEA - International Energy Agency. Post '70's oil crisis agreement to keep 90 days of oil stocks by all the major western powers. Still in force as of 2006, and likely to have been reinforced by rising tensions, not taken out of action.
To the UK: Yes. The NK have taken a bad move by attacking Vietnam. I will try to moblize our forces and move them closer to Vietnam. We shoud consider a naval blockade.
- 40% of the Canadian Navy is starting to move to from their ports.
- 2000 men and other types of battle equipment from the Army are sent with the Navy force.
OOC: What NATO naval base is closest to Vietnam?
Terror Incognitia
04-09-2006, 12:03
OOC: Not sure, Pearl possibly. Though Japan would probably be agreeable, and Singapore would be open to the Brits, under Five Power Defence Agreement.
To Japan: Greetings to you. This is a hard time for all of us, and the Canadian goverment needs to take measures to protect it's citzens. We're requesting on useing a Japanese port to be a temporary base for a naval force. The NK have taken a bad move by attacking Vietnam, this endanger's us, you, and the rest of the world.
Stephen Harper, Prime Minister of Canada.
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"We're going live to Port Brendan folks, hello Sabarina!" The female reporter in Fort Brendan respods "Hello Dave. As you can see, there is mass military moblization of our forces. The question is, why?" The camera then shows some infantrymen boarding a ship. "Is this becouse of the Oil Crisis ? Maybe. Back to you Dave."
"Thank you Sabrina! More of this will discussed in our political programe Polotics 101. Stay tuned for more!"
No Taxes
04-09-2006, 12:44
We’re in a crisis. We’re blocked off from our crude oil supply. This is hurting our economy bad.
OOC: You realize that Canada has some of the largest oil reserves in the world, right?
OOC: You realize that Canada has some of the largest oil reserves in the world, right?
OOC:Just read that on Wikipedia. Osnap. I'l edit out the Russia part.
"We're live!" One of the video technicians said.
Harper started his speech "Citzens and leaders of the world. As all of you know, there is an oil crisis going, the prices are riseing, puting many economy's in danger. Today, Canada announces increased crude oil productuin on our part. We will supply oil to all members of NATO. Also, mass mobilization of our armed forces has taken place. Yesterday, 2000 troops and around 40% of our navy is moveing over the Pacific. We have requested the Japanese goverment that we can use a port of theirs as a temporary base for this military force. Also, we are putting trade embargos on the CSN and Italy. That is all."
To the UK: I sugest we put trade embargos on the CSN and Italy. I'm awaiting Japan's request on useing their ports for our military force.
OOC: Russia has some competition now. :D
Neo-Erusea
04-09-2006, 13:47
(If japan in WW2 took out Vietnam, maybe PRK could to. The navy thing is a big issue, though.)
Putin was with his military advisers, discussing what should be done with the imperialist Korean threat. "Comrades" started the president, "the Koreans have become extremely hostile to their neighbors. First the south, one of our major weapons customers, and the Vietnam. Vietnam, who withstanded the Americans and the Chinese has fallen to them. We do have territory near Korea. Suggestions?"
Comrade president, the Koreans are very intelligent. They're not stupid. They know better than to attack us. I say-"
"I say that we should send the Pacific fleet to defend Kamtchatskaya and the Kurils. Their is no way the Koreans will be able to get past them. I also suggest, comrades, that we revive our Typhoon missile subs and build the military."
Back on the Siberian coast Russian Typhoon subs, each with twenty ballistic missiles, set sail for the artic. The Kuznetsov carrier of the Pacific fleet began exercises and the rest of the fleet as well. The Russians were prepared for anything that might come their way.
Anthyobia
04-09-2006, 14:08
Desired nation: USA
Wiki link: USA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USA)
GDP: 2005 Est: $12.40 trillion
Military Spending: Dollar figure $441.6 billion (FY2006 est.)
Percent of GDP 3.7% (FY2006 est.)
Desired nation: USA
Wiki link: USA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USA)
GDP: 2005 Est: $12.40 trillion
Military Spending: Dollar figure $441.6 billion (FY2006 est.)
Percent of GDP 3.7% (FY2006 est.)
OOC: Yay!
Neo-Erusea
04-09-2006, 14:25
The USA is here!!! Now we need an Iran.
Terror Incognitia
04-09-2006, 14:56
<The Prime Minister, David Cameron, today announced that pending EU agreement, the UK is suspending all trade with Italy and the CSN. He urged the EU to approve the motion currently tabled to boycott all trade with declared members of the CSN and Italy.
He expressed regret that this is likely to destroy the Italian economy, cutting them off from 59% of their trade from the EU alone, with the USA accounting for another 8.0%.
The Prime Minister has had a busy day. He welcomed the fact that the Commonwealth has suspended trade with the CSN, and pledged British aid to assist any Members heavily affected by this.
He also put two motions to NATO's North Atlantic Council. First order of business was to suspend Italy as not a fit member. Second was to invoke Article V, for only the second time in history, this time to commit NATO to action against the CSN. Canada, and the nations that had been voting against Italy in the EU, are apparently considered safe bets for support.
Throughout this latest crisis, the British Government has remained unpanicked, and been building an ever stronger network against the CSN. Some of these efforts appear to be beginning to bear fruit.>
Neo-Erusea
04-09-2006, 15:15
Meanwhile the Russian Northern Fleet also was being put on high alert. Like the Typhoons, the Delta missile subs began to sail, however not to the ice cap, but to the center of the fleet itself, where they get the most protection.
Neo-Erusea
04-09-2006, 15:53
Here's a nice little map for the RP:
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n220/Neo-Erusea/IransDefienceMap.png
I forgot Italy is Orange. Their is a key and I put all the members of the CSN, even if they aren't played or can't be played (Libya). Also when a faction invades a territory the terrotory will be colored a darker hue of the occupants color. (Vietnam/ S Korea to CSN)
The Canadian fleet is 100 KM away from the Japanese coast. Awaiting Japan's answer.
Maldorians
04-09-2006, 17:23
can i take USA?
Neo-Erusea
04-09-2006, 17:26
Anthyobia beat you to it. You can be Iran however Anthy just posted and left. If he dooesn't come back you can be US. I'll tg you if this happens. That's if you really want the US.
Warta Endor
04-09-2006, 17:52
ooc. Japan didn't had a hard time taking over Vietnam, they basicely replaced the French as Colonial Rulers. Though the Vietminh was quite a b*tch during WWII.
To; Canada
Japan will cooperate fully with the West to stop the threat from North Korea. You may use any Naval base you want to use.
- Our fleet sets up at the Japanese port.
To the NK: The attack on South Korea was a bad move on your part and the siege of Vietnam is even worse. Stop these acts of agression or hostile action will be taken.
Terror Incognitia
04-09-2006, 18:36
The Royal Navy is deploying one of the two CVF's, with appropriate escorts and HMS Albion with full embarked force. These are being sent to Singapore as a staging point for Vietnam. Other forces may follow.
New Ausha
04-09-2006, 19:55
OOC: I HATE THIS POST SYSTEM!!!!!!!!!!! I WROTE A MULTIPLE PARAGRAPH POST AND ITS GONE.
1. I controlled the south massive navy
2. Vietnam had a seperatist party that supported me
3. Maldorains, take Iran
(im not writing another fucking 4 paragraphs, just too have it say "this page cant be displayed.")
4. All those nations listed ARE NEUTRAL. Why would they not trade with me? Britan doesnt exactly controll thier economic policies. And for god sakes england, use james bond!
5. I dont have much time too post, if I dont do my actions quick, I will get pwned...
-Vietnam the 3rd USSK district
-Welfare system opens in USSK
-Meeting in Seoul about a secret operation
-Elections in USSK in 4 months
-Oil reserves beggining
-Tourism with britan cut in Vietnam
-Trade offer with japan still pending
-Trade offer with USA extended
New Ausha
04-09-2006, 20:00
OOC: List updated
"Major come look at this!"
"What is it, soldier?"
"There is a huge staging of forces in Japan. There up too something."
*Kims office*
"Sir, be rational, we have too negotiate."
"Get me the UK."
To: UK, Japan, Canada
Gentlemen, we all want too see this end without bloodshed. Simply name your terms, so we may negotiate a peaceful, rational solution too this crisis, thank you. As you know, we have elections soon, and we would like too complete our first elections of our history, in peace.
Kim sent the e-mail.
"Full east coast defensive alert. Bring some vietnameese conscripts up too korea, about 1 million."
"Yes sir."
"Do not fire on them."
"Sir?"
"Be cautious. The Southern navy is powerful, but our men are unexpierienced."
"Yes sir."
New Ausha
04-09-2006, 20:06
http://img326.imageshack.us/my.php?image=iransdefiencemapmx7.png
Better map. Germany never said they were on the UK/Us's side. They are neutral. Dark red is the United Socialist States of Korea.
Hey UK, in this time of uncertainty, maybe you should have another N. Ireland, Ireland brawl. Tensions have been high.
That guy who took US is a noob. I expect he flaked.
*War Room*
"What are there defenses like?"
"Terribly weak, they should be no problem."
"Do we have a sympathising party?"
"Yes, the Peoples Revolutionary Front."
"Excellent. Train for the mission. We will commence before elctions."
"Yes Sir."
Neo-Erusea
04-09-2006, 20:23
An aircraft was flying very high up near the Korean fleet. It was an M-55 Mystic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myasishchev_M-55), a Russian version of the U-2. The aircraft was flying at 28,000m above sea level, several kilometers north of the fleet. As a man named Gery Powers found out over Russia that fateful day, these aircraft can't fly over SAMs. Nor can they out-turn them. Hell, the U-2 can't out-manuver a cloud, much less a missile. The M-55 flew at a very slow speed, taking pictures and recording images of the fleet. The Koreans probably knew he was there, but they couldn't do anything about it. After five minutes the aircraft headed back to Russia.
New Ausha
04-09-2006, 20:26
To: Canada
We wish too send an ambassador too toronto, too discuss peace/trade. Do you accept?
To: Japan
Do you accept our offer of peace and trade?
Declaration for vietnam:
we are closing Vietnam too all foreign navies. We apologize, but we would feel much more at ease, if we kept the ports for USSK navy and commercial trade. Thank you. As for the sea of Japan, we ask that foreign navies do not come too close too the mainland. Thank you.
OOC: WHERE ARE ALL THE CSN PEOPLE? THE LAST TWO PAGES HAVE BEEN ALL WDA AND ALLIES!!! ILL HAVE TOO CLOSE THIS THREAD SOON, BECAUSE IF THE WESTERN WORLD ATTACKS ME, GUESS WHAT? I CANT WIN.
Maldorians
04-09-2006, 20:27
ooc:New Ausha so am I USA?
New Ausha
04-09-2006, 20:29
An aircraft was flying very high up near the Korean fleet. It was an M-55 Mystic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myasishchev_M-55), a Russian version of the U-2. The aircraft was flying at 28,000m above sea level, several kilometers north of the fleet. As a man named Gery Powers found out over Russia that fateful day, these aircraft can't fly over SAMs. Nor can they out-turn them. Hell, the U-2 can't out-manuver a cloud, much less a missile. The M-55 flew at a very slow speed, taking pictures and recording images of the fleet. The Koreans probably knew he was there, but they couldn't do anything about it. After five minutes the aircraft headed back to Russia.
To: Russian Aeronautic Administration
We had spotted a spy plane over our fleet. Why is that? We chose not too fire at him, when he was confirmed Russian. We ask you too refrain from spying. If you were our allies, we would be more than happy too extend our knowledge too you.
-In vietnam, troops, supllies, vehicles, tanks, and airplanes began war games, training...
New Ausha
04-09-2006, 20:30
ooc:Neo-Erusea so am I USA?
*ehem* (its kinda up too me because im the thread starter)
Maldorians
04-09-2006, 20:32
ooc:New Ausha aww crap im sry man. Neo-Erusea was TGing me for the link and i didnt look at the starter. Sry
New Ausha
04-09-2006, 20:33
ooc:New Ausha aww crap im sry man. Neo-Erusea was TGing me for the link and i didnt look at the starter. Sry
OOC: No prob. Hold off on being USA. If that other guy doesnt post in the next 6 hours, you can have USA.
Can somebody tag that guy?
Maldorians
04-09-2006, 20:41
ooc:al'right fine just tg me in 6 hours also if he's not USA can i use his idea
of this
Desired nation: USA
Wiki link: USA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USA)
GDP: 2005 Est: $12.40 trillion
Military Spending: Dollar figure $441.6 billion (FY2006 est.)
Percent of GDP 3.7% (FY2006 est.)
New Ausha
04-09-2006, 21:00
ooc:al'right fine just tg me in 6 hours also if he's not USA can i use his idea
of this
Desired nation: USA
Wiki link: USA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USA)
GDP: 2005 Est: $12.40 trillion
Military Spending: Dollar figure $441.6 billion (FY2006 est.)
Percent of GDP 3.7% (FY2006 est.)
OOC: Post your millitary too.
News Report-
Vietnam today, has seen skyrocketing approval for the entry into the USSK. Basic welfare and aid, along with the construction of better roads and towns, have left the vietnameese, overall happy with korea.
Along with this, wages have been raised, and now, the USSK accepts 40% regulated private industry in general. This along with a tax break has left a feeling of satisfaction across the south pacific.
In Laos today, a protest of 130,000 calamoring for membership into the USSK, calling it, "the asian EU".
- Canadian forces have been spoted around 30 KM from the coast of Vietnam.
New Ausha
04-09-2006, 21:23
OOC: Madnestan, you my only ally. Ya gotta post dude, your kinda ruining the thread. If Maldorains is accepted, then the only positions availible will be CSN nations.
To: Canadian Vessels
From: The State Navy of the USSK
Please state your bussiness off the coast of Vietnam.
Neo-Erusea
04-09-2006, 21:27
Election Day is almost here in Russia and their are two major candidates that may win. First is Putin, who is running again with the Unity party (23% pop)
and second if Sergi Damolev of the Communist Party, with a slight lead (23.9% pop).
*********
Election Day:
"The votes have been tallied. The new president of the Russian Rederation is...
-
-
-
-
Sergi Damolev!!!"
Sergi at his inagaural speech declared that, "Russia has spoken. It is obvious that capitalism has failed our country. From now on Russia shall be known as the Russian Socialist Federated Soviet Republic. This is our first step in restoring mother Russia to her former glory!"
With his new cabinet Damolev began to discuss with his neighbors, "The mistakes of the former Soviet Union must be avoided at all costs, comrades. This is what we will do: First, we must not isolate ourselves, even if that means business with capitalist corporations. Second, corporations within Russia must not be eliminated, yet. And finally, we must retain our relationship with the west!" With that a message was sent to America, England, Italy, France, Germany, and Canada. "
The RSFSR does not wish to cut off trade with your nations. Certainly there is enough room in the world for communism and capitalism to co-exist in the world peacefully. Golbal detente is necessary for all this. Please, may we live in a more peaceful society. The RSFSR has no intentions of global communism.
*********
New Russian Flag:
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n220/Neo-Erusea/FlagoftheSovietUnion.png
New Ausha
04-09-2006, 21:34
Election Day is almost here in Russia and their are two major candidates that may win. First is Putin, who is running again with the Unity party (23% pop)
and second if Sergi Damolev of the Communist Party, with a slight lead (23.9% pop).
*********
Election Day:
"The votes have been tallied. The new president of the Russian Rederation is...
-
-
-
-
Sergi Damolev!!!"
Sergi at his inagaural speech declared that, "Russia has spoken. It is obvious that capitalism has failed our country. From now on Russia shall be known as the Russian Socialist Federated Soviet Republic. This is our first step in restoring mother Russia to her former glory!"
With his new cabinet Damolev began to discuss with his neighbors, "The mistakes of the former Soviet Union must be avoided at all costs, comrades. This is what we will do: First, we must not isolate ourselves, even if that means business with capitalist corporations. Second, corporations within Russia must not be eliminated, yet. And finally, we must retain our relationship with the west!" With that a message was sent to America, England, Italy, France, Germany, and Canada. "
The RSFSR does not wish to cut off trade with your nations. Certainly there is enough room in the world for communism and capitalism to co-exist in the world peacefully. Golbal detente is necessary for all this. Please, may we live in a more peaceful society. The RSFSR has no intentions of global communism.
*********
New Russian Flag:
http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n220/Neo-Erusea/FlagoftheSovietUnion.png
To: Mr. Sergi Damolev
Congradulations on you victory! Your country indeed has spoken. Naturally, as in the time of our fathers, I ask that you fully ally with us, your sociliast brothers. As we did before, we would be more than happy too accept millitary surplus from you, once again. As always, we would love too once again enact full, free trade between our nations. We are communist comrades, and we must unite, for the workers of our country. We have adopted "compassionate communisim" which laxes social, civil, political repression, cuts taxes, allows 40% private (though regulated) industry.
We would appreciate a reply, comrades.
Neo-Erusea
04-09-2006, 21:38
Indeed. However only your Korea is communist. Therefore we will not join CSN or ally with them, but we will open military trade and economic parterships. Workers of the world unite!
The RSFSR also will use soft communsim, until it is right for full communism within Russia.
New Ausha
04-09-2006, 21:51
Indeed. However only your Korea is communist. Therefore we will not join CSN or ally with them, but we will open military trade and economic parterships. Workers of the world unite!
The RSFSR also will use soft communsim, until it is right for full communism within Russia.
Alright, we have a proposal. If we withdraw from the CSN, will you fully ally with us?
No, not only Korea is communist. Vietnam capitualted, and is now a member, of the United Socilaist States of Korea, which we controll and administer. We are attempting to mimic your commanding USSR.
Request:
-Defensive Alliance, lasting 4 years
-Support in the liberation of Southeastern pacific countries
-Millitary surplus trade, along with everything else
-Protection from western agression
-Embassy swap
We will never accept full communism, as it leads too isolationism. We are trading with alot of Neutral europeans, and south americans.
*Korean Elections*
Today the ballots are in. The incumbant kim jong ill, versus general Song, of the army. Lets see the results:
Popular vote:
(including all districts of the USSK)
71%- Song
-29%- Kim
It is official! General song is now the General Secreatary of the USSK.
"I thank all supporters, throughout the USSK. I am grateful for my victory."
"Ladies and gentlmen, we need change. We need too maintain free, regulated industry, and strong trade ties, external and internal, for the USSK."
"Russia will be our greatest ally. We are allies in a new, softer communism."
"Taxes will be lowered, along with welfare programs expanded. The medicianl industry will get a good goverment boost, and for the first time ever, be 20% private."
"Our brothers in Laos beg for our support? Who are we too deny them thier entry too the USSK?"
Neo-Erusea
04-09-2006, 21:54
We will only ally with Korea if, and only if, Korea drops from the CSN. The CSN is an imperialist force bent on destabalising the world. They will be eliminated. So, comrades, will you abandon the CSN?
New Ausha
04-09-2006, 22:00
We will only ally with Korea if, and only if, Korea drops from the CSN. The CSN is an imperialist force bent on destabalising the world. They will be eliminated. So, comrades, will you abandon the CSN?
Agreed. We hencefourth withdraw from the CSN.
However, may we resume oil trade from them?
Neo-Erusea
04-09-2006, 22:02
Comrade Song: Is it any of our business whom you trade with? If so, you might as well make your country into Korea SSR.
New Ausha
04-09-2006, 22:16
Comrade Song: Is it any of our business whom you trade with? If so, you might as well make your country into Korea SSR.
Right. We of course, will retain our independance. But we are glad too have you as our full ally.
Riots in Laos continue.
OOC: man this thing really jumped
To: Russia, USSK
We are proud of your elections, and wish you the best. However, in these times of trouble. Trade and alliance can be the differnce between vicroty and defeat. We ask the formation of Global Socialist Front (GSF)
Our nations has become heavily socialist. The GSF benefits would include:
Free Trade
Defense Alliance
Economic aid
Foreign Aid
New Ausha
04-09-2006, 22:43
OOC: man this thing really jumped
To: Russia, USSK
We are proud of your elections, and wish you the best. However, in these times of trouble. Trade and alliance can be the differnce between vicroty and defeat. We ask the formation of Global Socialist Front (GSF)
Our nations has become heavily socialist. The GSF benefits would include:
Free Trade
Defense Alliance
Economic aid
Foreign Aid
We accpet your offer for free trade, and a defesive alliance, but we are simply not ready too join an alliance right now. Thank you.
No Taxes
04-09-2006, 22:57
OOC: No harsh feelings, but I am going to withdraw from this RP. While it is partially because I have been too busy its mainly because this has just been too unrealistic. I mean I could maybe see North Korea taking over South Korea, although South Korea would have a good chance of winning, but then the fact that 8 million people supposedly left without being RPed so that there was no resistance was streching things. Then there was the claim that the war would help the North Korean economy when in reality no war ever helps a nation's economy and you don't become economically powerful just by conquering a country that is economically powerful. And then there was the invasion of Vietnam. North Korea has nowhere near a good enough navy to transport hundreds of thousands to Vietnam and the movement was not even RPed. You just said that they landed there. One reason given as to how you were able to move the troops was that you had the South's navy, too, but this would have either been destroyed in the war or fled to Japan with the 8 million other South Koreans. There is no way you could have gotten the South's navy. Then you just stated that there were separatists in Vietnam and with their help took over the country way too easily and quickly. For one thing, I wasn't aware that you could just decide that there were powerful separatist in a country who wanted to join the country you were RPing and Vietnam's Army would not be defeated too easily. Also, your supply chain would be incredibly long and easy for Vietnam's navy to break. Then after you miraculously and very quickly conquered Vietnam, the people supposedly liked their conquerors and there was no resistance. In both Vietnam and South Korea I doubt they would like being conquered and ruled by North Korea. So I most regretfully am going to leave, but once again no hard feelings, could you please remove my name from the list of claims?
New Ausha
04-09-2006, 23:17
OOC: No harsh feelings, but I am going to withdraw from this RP. While it is partially because I have been too busy its mainly because this has just been too unrealistic. I mean I could maybe see North Korea taking over South Korea, although South Korea would have a good chance of winning, but then the fact that 8 million people supposedly left without being RPed so that there was no resistance was streching things. Then there was the claim that the war would help the North Korean economy when in reality no war ever helps a nation's economy and you don't become economically powerful just by conquering a country that is economically powerful. And then there was the invasion of Vietnam. North Korea has nowhere near a good enough navy to transport hundreds of thousands to Vietnam and the movement was not even RPed. You just said that they landed there. One reason given as to how you were able to move the troops was that you had the South's navy, too, but this would have either been destroyed in the war or fled to Japan with the 8 million other South Koreans. There is no way you could have gotten the South's navy. Then you just stated that there were separatists in Vietnam and with their help took over the country way too easily and quickly. For one thing, I wasn't aware that you could just decide that there were powerful separatist in a country who wanted to join the country you were RPing and Vietnam's Army would not be defeated too easily. Also, your supply chain would be incredibly long and easy for Vietnam's navy to break. Then after you miraculously and very quickly conquered Vietnam, the people supposedly liked their conquerors and there was no resistance. In both Vietnam and South Korea I doubt they would like being conquered and ruled by North Korea. So I most regretfully am going to leave, but once again no hard feelings, could you please remove my name from the list of claims?
OOC: Once again, I have too give you my perfectly logical explanation, for you hissy fit. Plus dude, as nigeria, you were just messing up the thread. The end of a burden really, thank you.
1. The DMZ was made a normal border in 2008. So the attack on the south was a complete surprise.
2. NO THE SOUTH COULD NOT HAVE WON. They are a democratic force, without being US backed (in 2010) against the worlds largest third world army? No.
3. You fail too know the definition of a marine transport. Anything can be a transport.
4. The monetary and gold reserves of south korea WERE TAKEN BY ME. Gold is worthless? huh....
5. I had 8 million leave too be fair. AS A COUNTRY IS BEING SHELLED WOULD EVERYBODY STAY PUT AND WAIT TOO BE CONQUERED? (cough Poland, WWII) so 8 million emmigrated quickly.
6. You fail too seem to know what a seperatist movement is. The vietnameese korean sympathisers were strong, and they overwhlemed the loyalists. I RPed the conquest of Vietnam, in over 5 posts. I could have said. "I WALK IN AND TAKE VIETNAM" which you imply, when you are in fact, completely wrong. I even posted a few maps for gods sake! As for me deciding they were spereatists, I spose I could have waited for the NPC too tell me... oh wait..thats right...NPC's dont talk...huh
7. If anybody wants too conquer an NPC do it fairly like me. I posted losses and maps.
8. Vietnam is a growing economy, but a not so liked goverment. The people I think, would be happy for basic welfare and health services? i on the other hand, would hate too have someone come in, and provide me with food and water if i needed it. Evil bastards....
So, No Taxes, your accusations are full of holes, and overall flawed. I could have conquered souheast asia by now. But nope. I remain fair. Vietnam is in re-construction, south korea is still assimilating, ill be fair about that.
Thank you for leaving. I could not bear another crappy accusation. I have a few of my own in fact:
Nigeria simply decides too cut middle east trade, with egypt even? Suddenly, Nigeria loves the western powers, and fully trades with them? Yor oild production can keep the US, UK, and Europe alive? nope. Wow. You can supply 1 1/2 continets with oil, and i cant take over Vietnam. Riight.
Neo-Erusea
05-09-2006, 00:14
North Korea has the third largest amount of troops, not the total military equipment, so you know NA, but North Korea as of 2004 was considered to have the 17th most powerful military in the world, with S Korea in the 30's. However my army is 2nd most powerful in the world. US is 1st. That's the only reason N Korea hasn't stomped the South. Also being the fact that many Koreans detest that they can't see their familes on the other side, N Korean conquest of the South may actually have been welcomed by many on both sides. As for a navy anything from a rubber raft to a couple of logs tied together could have been used to invade Vietnam, whose old decrepid military must rely on poorly trained soldiers with little moral, and fighting the Koreans which possibly employ more brutal tactics than the Americans, meaning the the guerillas couldn't hide among the villagers. It is highly likely that North Korea could actually take over Vietnam.
Terror Incognitia
05-09-2006, 00:28
Seeing that, that's it. I pull out. Enough.
Nigeria was playing reasonably. No Taxes never said he was supplying Europe and North America. I said that Nigeria more than sufficed to supply the UK, which is true, looking at IRL figures.
For a nation that is on the verge of economic collapse, and dependent on food aid, to conquer a modern democracy with reasonable military, and then immediately to go on and conquer a nation with growing prosperity, of reasonable political stability, and with a tradition of defying powerful invaders, with no navy to speak of, across a coupla thousand miles of ocean...
What is more for 8 million people to apparently manage to evacuate while an invasion is going on...!?
I was prepared to stay, but with one of the people who has RPed most realistically and generally sanely, pulling out, this isn't the place for me.
As a simple example, explaining that the US didn't help Korea or Vietnam cos they had no oil, when they have at least three months of stocks, as basic googling showed....meh. Bye guys, have fun. If you want to RP total fiction, start with a fictional situation next time, not real countries in the near future.
Neo-Erusea
05-09-2006, 00:37
Then their was the US factor as I mentioned before. And the US does produce oil in Alaska and the gulf. The US hates N Korea to no end, any attack by N Korea would have triggered a total war by the US. We really should have waited until we had a US and Iran, the two most important figures here. Why didn't I pick Iran you may ask? Cause I'm a russofil and I'm always the Russians. I refuse to RP otherwise. This sounded like a cool thread but It got off to a bad start. What kind of role does Nigeria play in the world anyways? Or Mexico like in the list before NA modified it. Mexico couldn't take over Guatemala, let alone go at it with Iran.
New Ausha
05-09-2006, 00:47
Terror Incognitia you really want to ruin this thread? You leave, and you ruin the thread.
Well due too irrational people, even after being explained how a certain action is completely legitimate and sensible, leave the thread, because a small south eastern asian country gets conquered. Good for you guys, way too ruin a thread.
Neo-Erusea
05-09-2006, 00:54
I like this thread, the idea's great. More thought should have been put in for NPCs. Like have the attacker post for the NPC or someone else rp defense for the npc
To the NK: Request denied.
OOC: Oh come on guys. If it was me that made you leave, then I'm sorry. But don't leave. It'l ruin everything.
Kopparbergs
05-09-2006, 07:41
OOC: Well I'm out of here too. This was too unrealistic/too fast forward for my kind of RP. It started good, but there were too many unrealistic/low detailed conquers in the Asia, and now Laos want to join, probably without a fight. And with Terror Incognitia and No taxes out of this, there will be no fun.
Good luck, no hard feelings though, but it was not my kind of business.
I really liked the idea of this RP though! My compliments to New Ausha for the background story!
Borman Empire
05-09-2006, 17:12
To: Germany
Finally, the shackels of social welfare, and liberalism have left you. Now, I ask you, too join us. Our nations become stronger everyday. My nations economy was nearly destroyed after 50 years of cold war. Now, with one simple annexation, I have doubled my millitary, increased our budget by 12 times as musc, and tripled the population, of the glorious republic.
Official German Response:
To: North Korea
We will continue trade with your nation, however we do not know if we shall ally thus far. We also will not be joining the CSA, especially after you dropped out.
Official German Telegram:
To: Japan
We shall sell you surplus military equipment.
Italys adress:
We have decided to make germany our full allies. Along with Korea. And, russia of course. As for the US and UK we remain neutral, as our sympathies go to the CSN.
Official German Response:
As of this time we are not sure whether or not we would like to be full allies. However we shall continue trading and applaud your decision to reinstate your independant currency.
Borman Empire
05-09-2006, 17:25
President's office:
Sir we have given time and all your listed goals are accomplished. A year has passed and welfare has been gone, it's done nothing but helped our economy, people, and nation. Unemployment, possibly our greatest problem, has begun to be cut down. It rose a slight bit with the close of welfare as people involved with that has no jobs, but it went down about 3.8% as people joined the military. Additionally buisness subsidies and tax cuts have generated a massive boom in buisness with many expanding and other new buisnessess opening up. Unemployment went down about 4.3 percent from all of that. Additionally we opened up more civilian jobs within the military so that more military men may pick up guns and serve in the front ranks. That brough unemployment down about .9%. I can hardly believe it, but through your efforts our 13% unemployment has gone down to 4%. You have done an excellent job sir. Additionally, our economy has once more climbed back atop its massively expanding track. We soon expect to have the fourth most powerful economy in the world.
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German armed forces began deployming more upon the nation's borders, specifically Poland. Images would show heavy, heavier than necessary, deployments upon Poland's borders as new Panzer divisions made their way to set themselves up.
Maldorians
05-09-2006, 21:26
Desired nation: USA
Wiki link: USA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USA)
GDP: 2005 Est: $12.40 trillion
Military Spending: Dollar figure $441.6 billion (FY2006 est.)
Percent of GDP 3.7% (FY2006 est.)
Total Military: 2,361,289