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[NS]Parthini
28-08-2006, 03:16
This is E20 only.

United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland
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Monarch - George V, King of the United Kingdom

Herbert Henry Asquith - Prime Minister
Lord Loreburn - Lord Chancellor
Lord Crewe - Lord President of the Council
Lord Ripon - Lord Privy Seal and Leader of the House of Lords
David Lloyd George - Chancellor of the Exchequer
Herbert John Gladstone - Secretary of State for the Home Department
Sir Edward Grey - Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs
[NS]Parthini
28-08-2006, 03:16
United Kingdom
Population: 50 million
Tech level: 5

Production centers: 55 (London 9, Birmingham 7, Liverpool 7, Manchester 7, Edinburgh 5, Portsmouth 5 Leeds 3, Glasgow 3, Southampton 2, Coventry 1, Cardiff 1, Shanghai 1, Calcutta 2, Bombay 1, Alexandria 1)

Colonial Resources: 63 (British Guyana 3, Burma 3, Cyprus 3, India 9, Malaya 8, Rhodesia 8, Nigeria 3, Jamaica 1, Kenya 2, New Zealand 1, Egypt 5, Suez Canal 6, New Caledonia 6, Tanzania 3, New Guinea 3)

Energy: 10 Coal, 3 oil (Persia)

Food production: 442
UK: food production 37, 50 million
India: food production 320, population 318 million (includes Bangladesh, India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka)
British East Asia: food production: 40, population 35 million
British East Africa: food production 6, population 4 million
British West Africa: food production 28, population 19 million
British Rhodesia/Botswana/Zambia: food production 3, population 2 million
British Egypt
British Caribbean: food production 3, population 2 million
Fiji/New Caledonia/New Guinea/Oceania: food production 8 population, 3 million
Pacific territories: Resources 1, food production 2, population 2 million (tech level 0)
Surplus: 12.5

Commerce: 550 shipping units (45 Tankers, 104 Coastal, 401 World) 8 ocean liner units



Build: 1912
Home Population: 50 million
Colonial Population: 382 million
Growth (Regular Spending): 3%
Income: 48 Production Centers, 48 Resources, 82 shipping units, 9 ocean liner units

192 Factories + 47 resources + 2.46 food resource points + 85 commerce points + 15.05 Canadian + 18.75 South African + 2 Irish + .95 Australian + 1 New Zealand point + 2 Embargo points= 366.21 points

Maintenance: 63.45

Home Social Spending: Level III-16.7
Empire Social Spending: Level I-38.2

Domestic Builds:

7 shipping unit-21

10 points to Ottoman Empire

2 points to Germany

5 points to KMT

2 points to Southern Persia

1 point for upgrading Afghanistan Infrastructure (year 1/6)

1 point to Oman

3 points for Cape-Cairo (7/12 years)
12 points for Cairo-Singapore (1/4 years)

Intelligence Agency-5 points

.86 points to Educated Blacks in South Africa

5 points for energy

Military Builds: 158

4 points for DN (0 left) (HMS Orion) (year 3/3)
4 points for DN (0 left) (HMS Monarch) (year 3/3)
4 points for DN (0 left) (HMS Conqueror) (year 3/3)
4 points for DN (0 left) (HMS Thunderer) (year 3/3)

4 points for DN (4 left) (HMS King George V) (year 2/3)
4 points for DN (4 left) (HMS Centurion) (year 2/3)
4 points for DN (4 left) (HMS Audacious) (year 2/3)
4 points for DN (4 left) (HMS Ajax) (year 2/3)

4 points for DN (8 left) (HMS Iron Duke) (year 1/3)
4 points for DN (8 left) (HMS Marlborough) (year 1/3)
4 points for DN (8 left) (HMS Benbow) (year 1/3)
4 points for DN (8 left) (HMS Emperor of India) (year 1/3)
4 points for DN (8 left) (HMS Agincourt) (year 1/3)
4 points for DN (8 left) (HMS Erin) (year 1/3)
4 points for DN (8 left) (HMS Canada) (year 1/3)

6 points for SDN (12 left) (HMS Queen Elizabeth) (year 1/3)

3 points for Fast BB (4 left) (HMS Warrior) (year 3/4)
3 points for Fast BB (4 left) (HMS Black Prince) (year 3/4)
3 points for Fast BB (4 left) (HMS Emerald) (year 3/4)
3 points for Fast BB (4 left) (HMS Impregnable) (year 3/4)
3 points for Fast BB (4 left) (HMS Defence) (year 3/4)
3 points for Fast BB (4 left) (HMS Resistance) (year 3/4)
3 points for Fast BB (4 left) (HMS Hector) (year 3/4)
3 points for Fast BB (4 left) (HMS Valiant) (year 3/4)

5 points for BC2 (10 left) (HMS ) (year 1/3)
5 points for BC2 (10 left) (HMS ) (year 1/3)
5 points for BC2 (10 left) (HMS ) (year 1/3)
5 points for BC2 (10 left) (HMS ) (year 1/3)
5 points for BC2 (10 left) (HMS ) (year 1/3)
5 points for BC2 (10 left) (HMS ) (year 1/3)
5 points for BC2 (10 left) (HMS ) (year 1/3)
5 points for BC2 (10 left) (HMS ) (year 1/3)
5 points for BC2 (10 left) (HMS ) (year 1/3)
5 points for BC2 (10 left) (HMS ) (year 1/3)

25 Light Cruisers-25 points (25/50) (year 1/2)

8 points for 1 Long Range Sub

1 point - 1 Observation Plane

6 points - Blimp research


Growth: 3%

5.9-2 factories=4 new production center (1 to India, 3 to UK)

Energy:

Have- 10 coal, 1 oil (Persia)
Need-16
Import-5 (cost 5)
[NS]Parthini
28-08-2006, 03:17
British Forces December 1913

British Army
Home forces:
Regular forces:
3 infantry corps (3 Britain)
2 cavalry Divisions (1 Britain, 1 Oman)
1 HQ (Britain)
3 light infantry brigades (Royal Marines) (2 Britain, 1 Oman)
1 coast defense fortress (Gibraltar)

Territorial forces:
4 reserve infantry corps (Egypt, Tanzania, Rhodesia, Nigeria)
1 cavalry corps (Sudan)

Imperial garrisons:
6 garrison division (Jamaica, Nairobi, Freetown, Lagos, Suez, Dar Es Salaam)
2 coast defense artillery brigade (Suez, Malta)

Army Air Corps:
1 Observation Air Unit (Britain)

Indian Army
Regular forces:
4 Cavalry divisions (Agra, Bangalore, Bandar Abbas, Shiraz)
6 Infantry corps (Delhi, Calcutta, Bombay, Lahore, Rangoon, Madras)
5 Fortress corps (Hyderabad, Sukkur, Multan, Peshawar, Mandalay)
1 HQ (Delhi)
5 Garrison divisions (Hong Kong, Aden, Singapore, Shanghai, New Caledonia)
6 Light infantry brigades (Ghurka) (Delhi, Rangoon, Peshawar, Calcutta, Kabul, Bandar Abbas)
1 Marine Brigade (Singapore)
No reserve forces

British Dominions
Canadian forces:
Regular forces: 1 garrison division (Halifax)
Territorial forces: 1 reserve militia corps
South African forces:
Regular forces: 1 cavalry division
Reserve forces: 2 cavalry divisions
Australia / New Zealand
Regular forces: 1 garrison division
Reserve forces: 1 reserve militia corps, 1 reserve cavalry corps

Royal Navy 1913
Tech level 5 warships
Dreadnoughts 19
Dreadnought, Bellerophon, Supurb, Téméraire, St Vincent, Collingwood, Vanguard, Neptune, Colossus, Hercules, Orion, Monarch, Thunderer, Conqueror, King George V, Centurion, Audacious, Ajax

Battlecruisers 10
Renown, Repulse, Resistance, Courageous, Glorious, Furious, Hood, Howe, Rodney, Anson

Fast Battleships 8
Warrior, Black Prince, Emerald, Impregnable, Defense, Resistance, Hector, Valiant

Light cruisers 47
Patrol, Forward, Foresight, Adventure, Attentive, Diamond, Amethyst, Sapphire, Topaz, Bristol, Glasgow, Liverpool, Glouchester, Newcastle, Weymouth, Dartmouth, Falmouth, Yarmouth, Chatham, Ottawa, Sydney, Pretoria, Chatham, Dublin, Southampton, Brisbane, Melbourne,Birmingham,Lowestoft ,Nottingham, Adelaide, Birkenhead, Chester, Arethusa, Aurora, Galatea, Inconstant, Penelope, Phaeton, Royalist , Undaunted, Caroline , Carysfort, Cleopatra, Comus, Conquest, Cordelia

17 destroyer flotillas
2 submarine flotillas

1 escort flotilla (Ice Patrol)

tech level 4.5 warships
BBs 12
(All mothballed) London, Bulwark, Venerable, Queen, Prince of Wales, Africa, Britannia, Hibernia, Lord Nelson, Agamenon

Protected cruisers 45
Diadem, Amphitrite, Andromeda, Argonaut, Ariadne, Europe, Niobe, Spartiate, Powerful, Terrible, Highflyer, Hermes, Hyacinth, Challenger, Encounter, Arrogant, Furious, Gladiator, Vindictive, Eclipse, Diana, Dido, Doris, Isis, Juno, Minerva, Talbot, Venus, Astraea, Bonaventure, Cambrian, Charybdis, Flora, Forte, Fox, Hermione, Edgar, Hawke, Endymion, Royal Arthur, Gibraltar, Grafton, St George, Theseus, Crescent

Plus 4 transport units

1 Blimp Unit

Naval Yards:
Portsmouth, Plymouth, Liverpool, London, Tyne, Bombay, Alexandria, Singapore
Naval bases:
Gibraltar, Malta, Suez, Aden, Colombo, Capetown, Jamaica, Hong Kong, Sydney, Vancouver, Halifax, Fiji, Perth, Brisbane, Diego Garcia, Shanghai
[NS]Parthini
28-08-2006, 03:18
Deployments:

Home Fleet:
Portsmouth- 3 DN, 1 BC, 2 DD, 2 CL, 3 CP 1 Transport, 1 Blimp
Plymouth- 2 DN, 2 DD, 2 CL, 3 CP 1 SSK, 1 Transport
Liverpool- 1 DN, 2 DD, 1 CL, 3 CP 1 Transport
London- 3 DN, 1 BC, 2 DD, 2 CL, 3 CP, 1 SSK, 1 Transport
Tyne- 3 DN, 1 BC, 2 DD, 2 CL, 3 CP

Ice Patrol-1 DD

Mediterranean Fleet:
Alexandria- 2 DN, 2 FB, 2 DD, 2 CL, 2 CP
Suez- 2 CL
Malta- 3 FB, 3 CL, 2 CP
Gibraltar- 3 FB, 1 DD, 3 CL, 2 CP

Indian Fleet:
Bombay- 5 BC, 2 DD 4 CL, 3 CP
Colombo- 2 CL, 2 CP
Aden- 1 BC, 2 CL, 1 CP
Diego Garcia- 3 CL, 1 CP
Perth- 2 CL, 1 CP

Eastern Fleet:
Singapore- 3 DN, 2 DD, 3 CL, 2 CP
Hong Kong- 1 BC, 2 CL, 1 CP
Shanghai- 2 DN, 2 CL, 1 CP
Fiji- 4 CL, 2 CP

Atlantic Fleet:
Halifax- 1 CL
Jamaica- 1 BC, 1 CL
Capetown- 2 CL

Antarctic Fleet:
Falkland Islands- 5 CP

12 BB1s in Reserve
[NS]Parthini
28-08-2006, 03:18
saved for news
[NS]Parthini
28-08-2006, 16:51
1906

Several members of Parliament begin discussion with Irish leaders about the possibility of Home Rule in Ireland, similar to how it is in Canada or Australia. Plans are made to grant Ireland its own Parliament and armed forces. However, there is much resistance to it at home, and even in Ireland where many Unionists in Ulster still wish to remain part of Great Britain.
Ato-Sara
30-08-2006, 14:11
The Portugese Prime Minister João Franco, seeks to re-affirm Portugal's long friendship with the United Kingdom, he enquires into whether a formal agreement cementing the bonds between the two countries can be reached, maybe something similar to the recent Entente Cordiale with France.
The Prime Minister also relays a request from King Carlos I to visit the United Kingdom and meet with his distant relation His Royal Highness King Edward VII .
[NS]Parthini
30-08-2006, 17:32
British Foreign Minister Sir Edward Grey remarks that although the United Kingdom and Portugal have had a standing alliance since 1373, that a renewal and strengthening of the alliance is acceptable and welcomed in the United Kingdom.

King Carlos is also welcomed to visit the country.
Middle Snu
30-08-2006, 17:59
King Rama V of Siam inquires as to the possibility of buying British weapons for use in the Siamese army, acquiring new British ships for the Siamese Navy, and sending Siamese observers to Royal Navy ships and Royal Army detachments so that Siamese officers can learn how the best military in the world works firsthand.

OOC: Siam could get modern ships elsewhere, of course, but since Britain is a relatively friendly power it gets first rights of refusal.
Ato-Sara
30-08-2006, 19:09
The Portugese Prime Minister thanks the United Kingdom for it's continued friendship.
King Carlos I shedules his visit for late October, he plans to tour London and the surrounding area to smaple what it has to offer.

Meanwhile the Portugese embassy in London begins rather hurried renovations...
[NS]Parthini
30-08-2006, 23:43
King Rama V of Siam inquires as to the possibility of buying British weapons for use in the Siamese army, acquiring new British ships for the Siamese Navy, and sending Siamese observers to Royal Navy ships and Royal Army detachments so that Siamese officers can learn how the best military in the world works firsthand.

OOC: Siam could get modern ships elsewhere, of course, but since Britain is a relatively friendly power it gets first rights of refusal.

OOC: Well... until the whole military stuff is worked out, consider this considered.
The Lightning Star
31-08-2006, 00:03
The colonies in Southern Africa approach the British Parliament and state that all 4 of the colonies wish to create a greater union, and they wish to open negotiations as soon as possible.

OOC: Basically, we want to make the RL Union of South Africa and have Parliament pass the South Africa Act (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Africa_Act_1909).
[NS]Parthini
31-08-2006, 00:11
Parliament takes note of the desire and begins to write up a legislation.

(I think I might go in reverse and make a Union and THEN grant self-government :p)
Ottoman Khaif
31-08-2006, 00:15
The Ottoman Government wishes to sign a Non Aggression Treaty with British Empire and also we wish to discuss matters about recent unrest in Persia.
The Lightning Star
31-08-2006, 00:23
Parthini;11618439']Parliament takes note of the desire and begins to write up a legislation.

(I think I might go in reverse and make a Union and THEN grant self-government :p)


OOC: Its all well for me. It's impossible playing as 4 different colonies, you'd better make that Union quick :D
Sukiaida
31-08-2006, 02:30
Alfonso the XIII wishes to invite his soon to be uncle to his wedding in Madrid. His neice would much appreciate her dear uncle coming to her wedding. And with this intrinsic uniting of family, maybe the two nations could become good friends in the future, but that is for tommorow. Today we wish to celebrate a union.

(With it's rather nasty surprise. And though not as highly publicized as Tsar Nicholas and his great love for the Czarina. Alfonso and his wife did marry out of love unlike so many royal weddings. Despite her hymophelia carrying genes.)
Middle Snu
01-09-2006, 01:35
Parthini;11618326']OOC: Well... until the whole military stuff is worked out, consider this considered.

Now that the British Government has had time to consider (OOC: Now that the Military rules have been posted) Siam asks for an answer.
[NS]Parthini
01-09-2006, 01:37
Britain presents its interest and inquires how many ships the Siamese are considering purchasing?
Ottoman Khaif
01-09-2006, 01:38
The Ottoman Government wishes to sign a Non Aggression Treaty with British Empire and also we wish to discuss matters about recent unrest in Persia.

awaiting answer on this
Middle Snu
01-09-2006, 01:55
Parthini;11622749']Britain presents its interest and inquires how many ships the Siamese are considering purchasing?

Siam may soon purchase a flotila of destroyers, however the King is willing to pay a sum (.5 points) in exchange for an ongoing agreement under which he can buy modern ships, infantry weapons, and artillery.

(I just want to make sure that my military has modern equipment and that tech 5 ships are available.)
[NS]Parthini
01-09-2006, 03:28
awaiting answer on this

OOC: Tommorow night, I will be home for Labor Day weekend and able to be on Chatzy again, so remind me then so we can discuss things.

That goes for anyone else who needs me to build them a navy, etc.
Amestria
01-09-2006, 03:53
The French Ambassador in London politely asks the UK government not to sell Siam war ships or weapons, as they border both French and English overseas territories, lack any immediate threats, and would only use those weapons to cause trouble.
Ato-Sara
02-09-2006, 00:09
The Portugese ask the British governement about the possibility of shipyards in the United Kingdom constructing four modern (Tech level 5) light cruisers for the Marinha Portuguesa similar to new Royal Navy 'Town' class light cruisers.
These Cruisers would be used as replecements for the outdated and poorly constructed protected cruisers currently in service.
The Marinha Portuguesa feel that such ships would be perfect for protecting far flung colonial possesions such as Goa and Macao.
Malkyer
02-09-2006, 04:30
Buenos Aires contacts the British government with an inquiry as to the possibility of Great Britain constructing modern warships to replace the embarassingly obsolete Argentine Navy. The Navy would like to order one (1) battlecruiser and sufficient ships for a destroyer flotilla.

Buenos Aires states that this is the maximum the country can afford at the moment, but hopes to do further business with our British friends in the future.

OOC: That's 5 points (I think) for a tech 5 battlecruiser and a tech 5 destroyer flotilla.
[NS]Parthini
02-09-2006, 18:08
Anglo-German Accords

After a secret meeting with German Leaders, the United Kingdom and the German Empire have signed a series of Accords striving for lessening Anglo-German tensions.

1. Germany and Britain sign an accord regarding Naval Expansion. Germany will only be able to build Battleships (including Dreadnoughts) and Battlecruisers with a ratio of 3:5 with Britain, meaning that Britian will always have an edge over Germany and will ensure that Germany still is able to have a large Fleet.

2. Germany will sign a non-Agression Pact with Britain, Belgium, the Netherlands and Portugal, and Britain will promise to come to their aid should Germany break such a treaty. Also, Britain will come to the aid of Germany, should either of these minor powers attack Germany. This includes, but is not limited to colonial and naval affairs, trade interference, or outright invasion.

3. Germany will cede a small part of German East Africa (the West part) to Britain, so that Britain is able to build the Cape-Cairo Railway.

SIC: Britain quietly promises the Germans that in the event of a Continental War regarding especially France and/or Russia, that Britain will not become involved. This silent agreement is nullified only in the case of violation of the rights of neutral nations.
Safehaven2
02-09-2006, 18:13
tag
Ottoman Khaif
03-09-2006, 01:52
The Anglo-Ottoman Accords of 1906
1. The Ottoman Government will had over compete and total contral of Egypt, Sudan, Qatar and North Yemen to the British Goverment. In the Ottomans will get Kuwait, NAP, help with Hejaz Railroad and five points.
Haneastic
03-09-2006, 02:00
The Emperor will be making a tour of European cities and will make a short trip to London to reaffirm the 1902 treaty, and to do some sightseeing
[NS]Parthini
03-09-2006, 02:01
British Governor General of Egypt signs the Accords in Cairo on April 21, 1906, and sends it back to Parliament which, after a few days of debate, ratifies it.

The Empire then extends its hand to Egypt proposing an extension of the Protectorate status to a full colony, with the Sultan retaining his position.

(I guess a Mod should give the response)
Elephantum
03-09-2006, 04:11
David Wolffsohn, head of the Zionist Congress, plans a tour of major cities to gain support and increase awareness of the Zionist cause before the 1907 Congress in the Hague, Netherlands. Pending approval from the various governments, Wolffsohn will end his Capetown vacation in late 1906, heading towards New York and Boston. There he will meet with Jewish community leaders and recent immigrants, as most European immigrants enter through New York or Boston. From there, he will hopefully visit the Moroccan Jewish community, though if the situation has deteriorated this segment may be omitted. Crossing the Mediterranean, he will spend some time in Palestine, visiting recently established Jewish settlements. The tour will conclude with stops in Vienna, Munich, and Cologne (the ZO's head offices are in Cologne), before arriving in the Hague to begin the conference.

Some leaders of the Zionist community express concern about the affect this might have on Wolffsohn's health (his South African vacation was for medical purposes). However, Wolffsohn has made the trip a top priority.

While no meetings with government officials are requested, any government who wishes to consult with Mr. Wolffsohn will be welcome to, if they have any questions, want him to present any statements to the conference, etc.

(OOC: The vacation and trip are both historical, although the tour focused on Eastern Europe, and was not on so great a scale. If a nation does not want Wolffsohn to attend, he will obey their wishes.)
New Dornalia
04-09-2006, 01:44
Sun Yat-Sen asks the British government for permission to enter the country and speak to the Overseas Chinese community there (no matter how small) and non-Chinese sympathizers in London and Birmingham.
Amestria
04-09-2006, 01:56
The French Government sends a proposal to the UK Ministry of Foreign Affairs regarding the settling of the recent dispute between Portugal and Spain.

France suggests that a neutral committee to be established to determine how much economic damage was in fact done to Portugal by the accidental and temporary seizure of Portuguese ships by Spain and if Portugal is indeed entitled to additional compensation (beyond what Spain is offering). The proposed Committee shall be made up of delegates from the Netherlands, Belgium, and Denmark (all impartial trading States).
[NS]Parthini
04-09-2006, 06:07
The United Kingdom informs the Third Republic that Britain finds Spanish piracy to be totally unwholesome and unwarranted and that Britain will only support the French plan if Portugal agrees. Britain places her full support behind our allies.
[NS]Parthini
04-09-2006, 06:13
Sun Yat-Sen asks the British government for permission to enter the country and speak to the Overseas Chinese community there (no matter how small) and non-Chinese sympathizers in London and Birmingham.

Britain allows Mr. Sun to travel through Britain, not wishing to curtail the freedoms granted to all peoples. However, a small police unit is assigned to follow Mr. Sun and report on his activities.
Amestria
04-09-2006, 06:29
Parthini;11635540']The United Kingdom informs the Third Republic that Britain finds Spanish piracy to be totally unwholesome and unwarranted and that Britain will only support the French plan if Portugal agrees. Britain places her full support behind our allies.

France helpfully points out that there is really no other option as the Government of Spain has made clear through its silence that it will not pay Portugal's unilaterally determined amount of one billion (one point) and the ships (which according to the Spanish Government were accidentally seized) have since been returned after only being in Spanish possession for a few days, with compensation and apologies having been made. France wonders what England and Portugal hope to accomplish.
[NS]Parthini
04-09-2006, 06:39
France helpfully points out that there is really no other option as the Government of Spain has made clear through its silence that it will not pay Portugal's unilaterally determined amount of one billion (one point) and the ships (which according to the Spanish Government were accidentally seized) have since been returned after only being in Spanish possession for a few days, with compensation and apologies having been made. France wonders what England and Portugal hope to accomplish.

Britain reminds France that such a lax attitude towards Portuguese Sovreignty is the main issue and Britain will not allow such an insult to harm the reputation of our long standing ally.

By Spain merely passing through the formalities, Portugal is seen to be no more than a small puppet of Spain that can be used at Spain's wishes. Britain believes that Portugal is as great, if not greater, than Spain and should not be treated as a mere backwash colony. If Spain does not wish to respect its neighbor then Britain and Portugal will have to teach Spain a lesson it apparently did not learn from 1898.
Amestria
04-09-2006, 07:17
Parthini;11635613']Britain reminds France that such a lax attitude towards Portuguese Sovreignty is the main issue and Britain will not allow such an insult to harm the reputation of our long standing ally.

France points out that Spain has apologized and paid compensation to the owners of the ships that were seized and at present there is no independent measurement of how much economic damage was done by Spanish actions (actions that Spain claims were accidental: ships were rounded up to transport Spanish troops and several Portuguese ships were accidentally seized), if any. Thus the matter at hand should either be put aside or handled by neutral arbitration.
[NS]Parthini
04-09-2006, 07:29
Britain has seen no strong action by the Spanish Government to the incident. A mere apology and simple payment to the owners is not enough. Britain has seen no other action than that, and believes that such a violation of sovreignty is due a much stronger reaction by the Spaniards. Britain has also not seen evidence of Spain's true repentance for simply an act of piracy.
Amestria
04-09-2006, 07:39
From Frances perspective there has been no constructive dialogue from either Portugal or the United Kingdom on what both would define as "true repentance" beyond unilateral demands for (what the French Embassy terms) "extraordinary compensation for damages which probably have little grounding in reality."

France also points out that what occured was not legally Piracy as Piracy "is robbery committed at sea, or sometimes on the shore, by an agent without a commission from a sovereign nation." As the Ships were seized by the Spanish Government, it is automatically established that what occurred was not legally piracy.

(OOC: Keep in mind this is private, not public, diplomacy. France is pretty much asking the England get off its soup box and level with it on what it wants. This dispute after all concerns a country that borders France to the south.)
New Dornalia
05-09-2006, 04:58
Parthini;11635556']Britain allows Mr. Sun to travel through Britain, not wishing to curtail the freedoms granted to all peoples. However, a small police unit is assigned to follow Mr. Sun and report on his activities.

OOC: Hope this works, if not, it can be changed or deleted.

IC:

When Sun gets there after his North America and Canada trips, he moves to speak in London and Birmingham to the Chinese there and potential sympathizers in the Labour Party (or equivalent thereof in 1906, should I be wrong), To his Chinese audience, he emphasizes the need for a strong China, democratically governed with the People's Welfare in mind. To his non-Chinese audience, he speaks of a strong, democratic China, though he modifies the more controversial parts of his message out to suit his audience.
[NS]Parthini
05-09-2006, 05:48
From Frances perspective there has been no constructive dialogue from either Portugal or the United Kingdom on what both would define as "true repentance" beyond unilateral demands for (what the French Embassy terms) "extraordinary compensation for damages which probably have little grounding in reality."

France also points out that what occured was not legally Piracy as Piracy "is robbery committed at sea, or sometimes on the shore, by an agent without a commission from a sovereign nation." As the Ships were seized by the Spanish Government, it is automatically established that what occurred was not legally piracy.

(OOC: Keep in mind this is private, not public, diplomacy. France is pretty much asking the England get off its soup box and level with it on what it wants. This dispute after all concerns a country that borders France to the south.)

OOC: In that case... TG.
Lesser Ribena
05-09-2006, 11:08
OOC for New Dornalia: The Labour Party has just (Feb 1906) come into existence following a name change from the Labour Representative Comittee. Following the 1906 election it holds 29 seats in parliament, the third most influential party (following the Liberal and Conservative parties). It's power currently is reduced by the fact that it's target audience, working class people, do not hold the right to vote (property restrictions meant that 40% of men could not vote at this time and, of course, no women at all). This will severely limit the Labour Party power until a major electoral reform (historically happened following WWI, when many returning soldiers and all women factory workers couldn't vote and it caused an outrage). The party are fairly radical for the time pushing for many socialist reforms.

Support for the KMT from them will be limited in parliament for the time being until reforms are agreed to so you may have some influence in British politics but not much as of yet.
New Dornalia
05-09-2006, 15:32
OOC for New Dornalia: The Labour Party has just (Feb 1906) come into existence following a name change from the Labour Representative Comittee. Following the 1906 election it holds 29 seats in parliament, the third most influential party (following the Liberal and Conservative parties). It's power currently is reduced by the fact that it's target audience, working class people, do not hold the right to vote (property restrictions meant that 40% of men could not vote at this time and, of course, no women at all). This will severely limit the Labour Party power until a major electoral reform (historically happened following WWI, when many returning soldiers and all women factory workers couldn't vote and it caused an outrage). The party are fairly radical for the time pushing for many socialist reforms.

Support for the KMT from them will be limited in parliament for the time being until reforms are agreed to so you may have some influence in British politics but not much as of yet.

OOC: Ah...I see now, still, it'd be nice to have that foot in the door.
Sukiaida
05-09-2006, 20:44
A note is sent to King Edward from his neice in SPain. It's a Portuguese Clipping, translated into Spanish. "Oh my poor ALfonso, they seem to wish to charictaturise him in their newspapers. THey have even given him the right mole on his shoulder. It makes me feel insulted and makes me laugh all at once. Oh dear Uncle, I wish we would not fight in these times. In truth it worries me these declarations in Africa. THose poor settlers could be killed. In the end God shall show us through."

(As far as I can tell, she was a favored neice of Edwards, and so would write her uncle.)
[NS]Parthini
06-09-2006, 17:06
Cape to Cairo Begins!
Rhodes' Dream to finally be Realized

With the Purchase of part of German East Africa, the Red Line, although imperfect, has finally been completed. British run land now runs from Alexandria to the Cape of Good Hope and with that finalization, Parliament seizes on the opportunity.

Nearly 4000 Miles must be connected, and it is estimated that the project will take a decade and a half to complete. However, Parliament and the Governors are elated with the news. Construction will begin in this year.
Lesser Ribena
06-09-2006, 17:48
A few OOC suggestions for the C-C railway:

Some parts of the Cape-Cairo are effectively completed already. Only counting the 1.435m British standard gauge the following sections are complete by 1906:

Alexandria-Cairo-Aswan, 600 miles.
Capetown-Kimberley-Bloemfontain-Johannesburg-Pretoria, 900 miles



To have the best full route I propose the following:

Capetown-Capetown-Kimberley-Bloemfontain-Johannesburg-Pretoria-Bulawayo-Harare-Lusaka-Lilongwe-Kampala-Khartoum-Aswan-Cairo-Alexandria

That route is 5100 miles but you already have 1500 miles done so that leaves 3600 miles of track to cover.

The new route covers every capital in British East Africa (except Nairobi, Kenya) and most of the major towns as well, such a route would allow many useful tactical benefits fo you.
[NS]Parthini
06-09-2006, 22:15
A few OOC suggestions for the C-C railway:

Some parts of the Cape-Cairo are effectively completed already. Only counting the 1.435m British standard gauge the following sections are complete by 1906:

Alexandria-Cairo-Aswan, 600 miles.
Capetown-Kimberley-Bloemfontain-Johannesburg-Pretoria, 900 miles



To have the best full route I propose the following:

Capetown-Capetown-Kimberley-Bloemfontain-Johannesburg-Pretoria-Bulawayo-Harare-Lusaka-Lilongwe-Kampala-Khartoum-Aswan-Cairo-Alexandria

That route is 5100 miles but you already have 1500 miles done so that leaves 3600 miles of track to cover.

The new route covers every capital in British East Africa (except Nairobi, Kenya) and most of the major towns as well, such a route would allow many useful tactical benefits fo you.

That helps a lot!

By the way, I did what you did last game and got a sliver of German East Africa, although I don't know if there are any major towns there (although a Railroad should change that!), and I will assume that all the specifics (routes, gauges, etc.) will be done automatically.
[NS]Parthini
06-09-2006, 22:26
Parthini;11631484']British Governor General of Egypt signs the Accords in Cairo on April 21, 1906, and sends it back to Parliament which, after a few days of debate, ratifies it.

The Empire then extends its hand to Egypt proposing an extension of the Protectorate status to a full colony, with the Sultan retaining his position.

bump for Mod response.
Lesser Ribena
07-09-2006, 13:55
British Governor General of Egypt signs the Accords in Cairo on April 21, 1906, and sends it back to Parliament which, after a few days of debate, ratifies it.

The Empire then extends its hand to Egypt proposing an extension of the Protectorate status to a full colony, with the Sultan retaining his position.

Has the Ottoman player been advised of this? Egypt is technically a part of the Ottoman Empire so it'd be enough to persuade Egyptian officials to agree if you got their say so. If the Ottomans say no you can still ask but it'll annoy them, not that they can do much about it, Egypt has been de facto British since the 19th century.

The Egyptians will agree in any case (the officials are all pro-British), but want firm promises of dominion status by 1920. Otherwise they are happy to maintain the status quo and pretend they are independent.
Ottoman Khaif
07-09-2006, 17:36
Has the Ottoman player been advised of this? Egypt is technically a part of the Ottoman Empire so it'd be enough to persuade Egyptian officials to agree if you got their say so. If the Ottomans say no you can still ask but it'll annoy them, not that they can do much about it, Egypt has been de facto British since the 19th century.

The Egyptians will agree in any case (the officials are all pro-British), but want firm promises of dominion status by 1920. Otherwise they are happy to maintain the status quo and pretend they are independent.

OOC: Yes I have aware of this and I have agree to it in return for a few points...
[NS]Parthini
07-09-2006, 18:31
Has the Ottoman player been advised of this? Egypt is technically a part of the Ottoman Empire so it'd be enough to persuade Egyptian officials to agree if you got their say so. If the Ottomans say no you can still ask but it'll annoy them, not that they can do much about it, Egypt has been de facto British since the 19th century.

The Egyptians will agree in any case (the officials are all pro-British), but want firm promises of dominion status by 1920. Otherwise they are happy to maintain the status quo and pretend they are independent.

That's fine, and was actually what I was planning.

BTW, do I get anything new from having it be directly Controlled?
Lesser Ribena
07-09-2006, 18:44
OOC: You get to fully control foreign affairs though and can station as many troops there as you like (technically required permission before), though there's not much else really.
Abbassia
07-09-2006, 19:05
The Reublic of Albania Respectfully approaches the Great British Empire in hopes of the establishment of stable relations between our two nations.
Sukiaida
08-09-2006, 01:18
A group of SPanish Nobles request an audience with King Edward and Prince Alexander Albert of Battenburg.

(His father died in 1896 and he's the eldest son. He doesn't marry til 1917)
[NS]Parthini
08-09-2006, 02:08
IC: King Edward VII and Prince Alexander Mountbatten accept and meet with the Spanish officials.
[NS]Parthini
08-09-2006, 02:08
The Reublic of Albania Respectfully approaches the Great British Empire in hopes of the establishment of stable relations between our two nations.

The United Kingdom recognises Albania and sends its ambassador to create a good relationship.
Sukiaida
08-09-2006, 02:25
The Spanish nobles sit down at the table, they are a cobbled together group of Dukes, Counts, and other nobles around Spain. Many of them are conservatives. One is a secret Fascist. Many of them looked tired.

"We believe the nobles of Great Britain have requested to have a British King in Spain. Currently Spain is doing restructuring and though we desire a KIng, ours is unfortunitly dead. And our queen is getting old. Personally she wants to retire again, but the current troubles are well troubling."

He coughed. "What we would like is to give Prince Alexander of Brattenburg the monarchy. He would be a Constitutional Monarch, with the new Constitution being drafted being tantamount. Our previous government has proven much to fragile. A Constitutional Monarchy would be best. THis means a Legislature of Aristocrats for laws and developments, and a voted group of members for local posts. Such as mayor or other such positions that would be too many in number to have a King appoint. The King would be Executive, with the ability to have an advisor."

He drank a cup of water as the rest of the nobles nodded agreement. "With relation to Britain, we wish to retain our soveriegnty. Nothing against the current King Edward, but being occupied like Ireland would not be possible. Personally our own heads would roll. In this we'd allow Prince Alexander to retain his British citizienry, but that he also take Spanish citizienry, and declare his loyalty to his new subjects. In truth young man, you'd be equal to King Edward. In relation to England, we would agree to taking a Protectorate status. Meaning that we are above a dominion, but that we are a close ally of Britain and will take their advice. On paper we are independent. In reality we're loosly controlled. We'd also prefer that Prince Alexander marry a Spanish woman. This would solidify the dynasty and allow your children to be culturally Spanish as well as British. We've all seen what happens when a ruler becomes too far displaced from his people."

"In effect we offer Prince Alexander the throne with ties to Britain that will allow us our continued soveriegnty. In this way the United Kingdom gains a son in Spain, and not a servant."
[NS]Parthini
08-09-2006, 02:46
"Those are all acceptable requests. However, the United Kingdom has several requests of its own. Alexander Battenburg will be allowed to retain his Anglican religion, freedom of religion must be established in Spain and the Anglican Church in Spain must be allowed to be established. Secondly, Spain must sign an alliance with Britain AND Portugal. Lastly, Spain will sell Spanish Guinea and the Canary Islands to Britain for a certain amount (we can hammer this out in a bit) as a "wedding present." With those conditions met, the Empire will be willing to come to an agreement
Sukiaida
08-09-2006, 21:02
(Considering I may have a coup and end up being a military dictator in a little bit, I am holding my responce IC off. YAY!! I might get to play Dictator Miguel. And also Galveston has started to post the NPC's reaction to this and the British people. Sooooo waiting for that to pan out before I say anything.)
Galveston Bay
08-09-2006, 22:21
Parliament lets the Prime Minister and the King know in no uncertain terms that the country has no interest in a war with Spain, particularly regarding succession. Especially considering how close to debacle the Boer War ended up being.

Now if the Spanish are foolish enough to commit an overt act that would be another situation entirely.
Sukiaida
08-09-2006, 22:43
"The Canary islands have been Spanish for centuries. ANd you expect us to sell them to you. We see." The nobles stood up. "And allow an Anglican King? Anglicans who tortured and fought a war for centuries against Spain. We would rather had a dictator to that. THis conversation is over. And if you wish to ever put a British king on Spanish soil, you will have to invade us. We refuse your illegal attempt on our country. Now we have a country to create."

THe nobles left, leaving any notion SPain would cooperate out.

(There's your permanent answer. If you want to get Succesion, it's going to be at the cost of war.)
Haneastic
09-09-2006, 00:56
Japan approaches Britain about the possibility of Britain constructing a Dreadnought there for Japan (we'd pay of course)
[NS]Parthini
09-09-2006, 04:43
Britain sadly informs Japan that it is unable to build Dreadnoughts for other countries at this time.
[NS]Parthini
09-09-2006, 04:53
The United Kingdom will not allow this insult to continue. The Spanish Government must apologise to the King for their insult to the King and Empire.

Meanwhile, the Home Fleet is put on active duty.
Ottoman Khaif
09-09-2006, 04:56
Parthini;11658091']The United Kingdom will not allow this insult to continue. The Spanish Government must apologise to the King for their insult to the King and Empire.

Meanwhile, the Home Fleet is put on active duty.

OOC: Get on AIM!
[NS]Parthini
09-09-2006, 05:15
OOC: Get on AIM!

Woot! THey unblocked it!
Abbassia
09-09-2006, 07:58
We thank the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland for your recognition of Albania as a soverign state, we approach you today to ask for permission to deal with British Weapons Manufacturares in fitting our army.

We also ask permission for accquiring a "loan" to help our infant nation develop and prosper.
Elephantum
10-09-2006, 17:09
David Wolffsohn arrives in London in early 1907, to meet with various community leaders and potential donors. He recognizes British support in the Zionist movement, and shows his thanks. While talking with potential donors, he expresses concerns over the fate of Africa, as two of the largest Jewish communities in Africa (Ethiopia and Morocco) have recently been engulfed by conflict. This stop short, however, and he does not have time for many meetings before he leaves for Palestine.
Amestria
10-09-2006, 17:15
November 7th, 1906

The French Ambassador to the United Kingdom, Jean-Jules Jusserand, leisurely entered the office of Foreign Secretary Herbert Gladstone for a prearranged appointment. Rather then have a seat Jusserand remained standing, so as to better lay out across Mr. Gladstone’s desk an enormous and detailed map of Siam.

"Siam was allowed to exist principally so as to serve as an effective buffer between our various holdings...now I wonder, why must this buffer be so large...cannot it be shrunk to a more pleasing size? There is so much territory wasted, being needlessly left in the hands of the Siamese Autocracy when it would be more productive under our respective governments. England should have South Siam (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/39/Thailand_south_numbered.png) and those bits west of the Mae Nam Ping river while France must have those territories east of the Mae Nam Pa Sak river (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/eb/Thailand_2002_CIA_map.jpg). Siam will be left an insignificant rump state that will continue to serve its world historical purpose, a simple and inoffensive barrier."

The Ambassador then pointed out the future danger Siam posed to both France and England’s Southeast Asian colonial holdings.

"As the recent unpleasant war between Ethiopia and Italy proves, these various primitive states can threaten what imperial holdings they border...a threat that will only increase over time, as they become wiser and more confident. Siam is far wealthier, far more populous, and far more organized then that backwards wasteland Ethiopia ever could hope to be. It has a larger military and is constructing railroads, even as we speak. Clearly you can see the long term danger of allowing such a large independent actor to remain in Southeast Asia..."

Jusserand also touched upon the political benefits of acquiring Siamese territory.

"The UK Government would also benefit enormously from the relief a short conflict with Siam would bring from the controversy surrounding its recent naval treaty with Germany and the royal family’s recent Iberian difficulties. There is nothing like a quick victorious colonial war to draw attention away from a government’s current trouble and bring about great popular acclaim. The public loves it when distant far away lands are added to the official map."

Jusserand further explained that if agreed to by England plans will be set in motion no later then the start of the New Year.
[NS]Parthini
10-09-2006, 21:08
In Early January, the Liberal Majority passes a series of reforms for social spending at home and abroad. Level III spending, including Public Universities and social security for elderly and veterans, is approved. In the Empire, Level I spending, which includes schools and clinics is approved, hopefully able to combat disease and illiteracy in India, Africa, and the Caribbean. Dominions, however, are on their own, a nice compromise: the Dominions get freedom, and British Tax payers don't have to pay for them.
[NS]Parthini
10-09-2006, 21:11
Build: 1906
Home Population: 44 million
Colonial Population: 381 million
Growth (Regular Spending): 3%
Income: 14 Production Centers, 49 Resources, 40 shipping units, 10 ocean liner units

56 Factories + 49 resources + 27.8 food resource points + 43 commerce points+10 Argentine points=185.8 points

Maintenance: 47.5

Home Social Spending: Level III-14.6
Empire Social Spending: Level I-38.1

Domestic Builds:

4 shipping units-12 points

20 points to Chile

5 points to Ottoman Empire

3 points for Cape-Cairo (1/12 years)

.1 points to Unionists in Ireland

Intelligence Agency-5 points

Military Builds: 18 points

10.2 points for BC (1.8 left) (HMS Invincible) (year 1/3)
10.2 points for BC (1.8 left) (HMS Inflexible) (year 1/3)
10.2 points for BC (1.8 left) (HMS Indomitable) (year 1/3)
4 points for BC (8 points left) (Argentinean) (year 1/3)

1 point for LC (Canadian) (year ½)
1 point for LC (Australian) (year ½)
1 point for LC (South African) (year ½)
[NS]Parthini
10-09-2006, 21:57
In Parliament, following the news of the United States' rapid increase in Dreadnoughts and Battlecruisers sparks a near panic. Many at home had felt happy with the German Compromise and felt that Britain's Naval Superiority was secure. However, with the news that the US was to have 1 Dreadnought ready this year, and another 3 within the next two years, as well as 2 Battlecrusiers shook the Admiralty hard. Many at home have begun to call for increases in Naval construction.

However, there is much debate on how to increase the fleet. First Sea Lord Jackie Fisher continues his call for an increase in Battlecrusiers which are much more able to defend the far-flung Empire than the much slower, yet more protected Dreadnoughts. Admiral Fisher also calls for an expanded submarine fleet, and even the use of aeroplanes to act as scouts, instead of the more vulnerable Dirigibles used by the French and Germans.

However, three new Battlecrusiers have been laid down as well as one more Dreadnought, the HMS Bellopheron. Regardless of what is laid down next year, funding is more likely to be directed towards Naval Spending next year.
[NS]Parthini
10-09-2006, 22:47
Foreign Secretary Grey (Gladstone is Home Secretary) takes a long hard look at the maps of Siam. Indeed Burma and Malaysia being conjoined by land would make a wonderful addition to the Empire and would solidify total control over the Indian Ocean, aside from a few French, German and Italian holdings.

"However, my good friend, Siam is a worthy buffer, and any smaller would incite the angers of the very nationalistic Siamese people. For another, Britain is not sure that a further weakened Siam would be able to resist French intrigues. And British intrigues, too."

He stood. "No. Siam is already small enough, and Britain sees no real need to incite their further hatred, especially with the aid they are currently receiving from our friends the Portuguese and Americans. Britain can also get what it needs through diplomacy. Honey is better than acid, my friend. "

"I must apologise for disappointing you, Jean, but many of us here feel that France has gained enough this year."
Amestria
10-09-2006, 22:51
"Might we then have your governments consent to us undertaking an expedition to militarily weaken them so they pose less risk to Indochina?"
[NS]Parthini
10-09-2006, 22:59
"What France does with her armies is not generally Britain's business, but Britain must warn France that there will be consequences, seen and unseen, and that the Empire can not grant a promised reaction."
Amestria
10-09-2006, 23:02
"We will merely move against the Siamese Army and destroy its offensive power. Might I remind you that those two corps it has could easily threaten Indochina or Burma. France will promise not to take any substantial territory if it has England’s blessings."
[NS]Parthini
10-09-2006, 23:05
"I do wonder if it might be more appropriate and pragmatic to diplomatically work out the issues with Siam's rather large army. Perhaps a joint discussion with Siamese leaders over the intended use of that army would bring better results and a less fanatical Siam?"
Middle Snu
10-09-2006, 23:06
OOC: Note that the Siamese army has one corps deployed in Bangkok and the other in in Pouthisat, in modern-day Cambodia. Neither is near British territory.
Amestria
10-09-2006, 23:08
"It would only delay the inevitable; the military must be shattered along with any hope of ever resisting European power for our colonies to be secure. Their military will also grow larger over the coming years, France feels the clock must be set back."
[NS]Parthini
10-09-2006, 23:44
"The Empire does not see Siam as a threat, and sees its large military as merely a self-defense mechanism to keep the Europeans from overtaking Siam completely. Thus, Britain will not support a French invasion of Siam, for that is simply what it is."
Amestria
11-09-2006, 00:05
"Thank you for your time sir."

With that Ambassador Jusserand politely bowed his head, collected his map, turned, and left the room.
Whittlesfield
11-09-2006, 00:34
Greece unveils plans for a union with the Cretan Republic, which the Ottoman Empire has renounced its claims on the island. Elefthérios Venizélos, the Cretan Councilor of Justice and the recently appointed High Commisioner of Crete, Alexandros Zaimis, invite the four Great Powers (Russia, UK, Italy, and France) to attend a conference to listen to a proposal for the union of the Cretan Republic, and the Kingdom of Greece.

OOC - the "Great Powers" currently protect Crete from the Ottomans, but at the same time stop a union with Greece to appease the Ottomans.
Whittlesfield
11-09-2006, 01:14
A Greek diplomat informs the British Gov't that a proposal regarding Cyprus will also be presented at the forthcoming conference.
[NS]Parthini
11-09-2006, 01:39
The British Admiralty announces that it will be selling most of its old battleships in an attempt to modernize the Navy. Tech level 4 BB2s will be sold for 1.5 points a piece to any and all who are willing. 4 a year will be put on the market for all who are interested, and will begin selling them in 1907. Requests to purchase must be made directly to the Admiralty (i.e. the British D/N Thread).
Ato-Sara
11-09-2006, 08:05
The Portugese ask the British governement about the possibility of shipyards in the United Kingdom constructing four modern (Tech level 5) light cruisers for the Marinha Portuguesa similar to new Royal Navy 'Town' class light cruisers.
These Cruisers would be used as replecements for the outdated and poorly constructed protected cruisers currently in service.
The Marinha Portuguesa feel that such ships would be perfect for protecting far flung colonial possesions such as Goa and Macao.

Bump
Haneastic
11-09-2006, 23:32
Japan would like to enquire if the british would be wiling to construct 2 Kongo class battlecruiser for us.
Galveston Bay
11-09-2006, 23:51
Japan would like to enquire if the british would be wiling to construct 2 Kongo class battlecruiser for us.

ooc
too soon, that class wasn't laid down until 1912, after the British had already built the Invincible and Lion classes of battle cruisers.
Haneastic
12-09-2006, 01:51
ooc
too soon, that class wasn't laid down until 1912, after the British had already built the Invincible and Lion classes of battle cruisers.

OOC: curse you Ottoman...
Ah, I have a Jane's WW2 book, so I thought that's when they were completed. In that case I'll ask you to build a different class, name to be determined later
Lesser Ribena
12-09-2006, 16:11
OOC: The Ibuki class was a Japanese battlecruiser laid down in 1907, though it was more of a heavy cruiser that was called a battlecruiser than a real one. Easy enough to change though, just use the same class and get them built as proper battlecruisers. If you need more names just pick some more mountains in Japan (that's what Ibuki and Kurama were named after).
Abbassia
12-09-2006, 16:11
The Kingdom of Bulgaria reaffirms diplomatic ties with Great Britain and cherish the ties of blood which link our two kings.

We also resend our requst to purchase older British vessels at the cost of 1.5 point each, we were hoping that a payment plan maybe developed to meet our limted exchequer.

OOC: Can I like buy two or three BB2 and pay for them later? I could of course pay a higher price if nessecery (up to 2 points); like I could buy three BB2's and pay 1 point a year for 6 years or equivelent.
Artitsa
12-09-2006, 17:48
Italy is extremely perplexed with the fact that Ethiopian Military units are being equiped with older British weapons as well as the standard british .303 caliber ammunition.

Italy questions Britains intentions, as they do own British Somaliland, which could be next for the Ethiopians.

Nor will this do anything for Italian-Entente Relations.
[NS]Parthini
12-09-2006, 18:27
The Kingdom of Bulgaria reaffirms diplomatic ties with Great Britain and cherish the ties of blood which link our two kings.

We also resend our requst to purchase older British vessels at the cost of 1.5 point each, we were hoping that a payment plan maybe developed to meet our limted exchequer.

OOC: Can I like buy two or three BB2 and pay for them later? I could of course pay a higher price if nessecery (up to 2 points); like I could buy three BB2's and pay 1 point a year for 6 years or equivelent.

The Admiralty approves the Bulgarian payment plan (1 point every year 1907-1912) and wishes the nascent Bulgarian Navy good sailing.

The Admiralty informs Bulgaria that since the ships will merely be scrapped, that Bulgaria will recieve 3 Battleships next year as long as it ensures Britain that 1 point for 6 years will be paid.
[NS]Parthini
12-09-2006, 18:31
Bump

The Admiralty agrees to the Portugese plan and inquires whether the Portugese would be able to pay the 4 points required next year.

The Navy also reaffirms its position that it will defend Portugal and its colonial possessions, as if they were British.
[NS]Parthini
12-09-2006, 18:34
Japan would like to enquire if the british would be wiling to construct 2 Kongo class battlecruiser for us.

OOC: Apparently, I can make all the ships I want, so unless you want to wait for better BCs to come out, then I can make them next year!
Ato-Sara
12-09-2006, 18:53
Parthini;11672641']The Admiralty agrees to the Portugese plan and inquires whether the Portugese would be able to pay the 4 points required next year.

The Navy also reaffirms its position that it will defend Portugal and its colonial possessions, as if they were British.

The Portuguese give the response that payment next year will be given promptly. The british are also deeply thanked for all the support they have given to the Portuguese nation.


(OOC: I drew a picture that looks somewhat like the ships in question Picture (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v671/lazyjim/Invasorcruiser.png)
enjoy.)
[NS]Parthini
12-09-2006, 22:13
Italy is extremely perplexed with the fact that Ethiopian Military units are being equiped with older British weapons as well as the standard british .303 caliber ammunition.

Italy questions Britains intentions, as they do own British Somaliland, which could be next for the Ethiopians.

Nor will this do anything for Italian-Entente Relations.

Italy is informed that Britain has nothing to do with the current illegal smuggling going on in Ethiopia, but assures the Italians that it is doing all it can to halt it. Britain also more quietly informs Italy that should the Ethiopians continue to commit these crimes, then Britain would be more than willing to assist Italy in "dispatching" the unruly "Emperor."
Haneastic
12-09-2006, 22:38
Parthini;11672652']OOC: Apparently, I can make all the ships I want, so unless you want to wait for better BCs to come out, then I can make them next year!

OOC: alright, so 2 then
Artitsa
13-09-2006, 03:01
Parthini;11673496']Italy is informed that Britain has nothing to do with the current illegal smuggling going on in Ethiopia, but assures the Italians that it is doing all it can to halt it. Britain also more quietly informs Italy that should the Ethiopians continue to commit these crimes, then Britain would be more than willing to assist Italy in "dispatching" the unruly "Emperor."

Italy openly apologizes for the accusation, knowing full well it could have been damaging to Britains prestige.

A note is returned to Britain that assistance in dispatching the "Emperor" would be most welcomed.
New Dracora
13-09-2006, 05:49
The Dominion of Australia wishes to petition his majesties british parliament for the right to arrange and organise trade beyond Australian markets.

It is felt in the Australian cabinet that the dominion should not have to trouble the United Kingdom of Great Britian and Ireland with such simple matters of state, furthermore it is believed that for Australia to prosper she must have a means of independantly mandating trade routes beyond her borders.

ooc: In short - if you don't want me pestering you every time I want to trade stuff, you'll grant me the freedoms I thought I had before someone pointed out that I didn't.
Abbassia
13-09-2006, 08:28
Parthini;11672623']The Admiralty approves the Bulgarian payment plan (1 point every year 1907-1912) and wishes the nascent Bulgarian Navy good sailing.

The Admiralty informs Bulgaria that since the ships will merely be scrapped, that Bulgaria will recieve 3 Battleships next year as long as it ensures Britain that 1 point for 6 years will be paid.

Bulgaria is content (overjoyed) with these terms, However Budget allocations and current programs have got our budget in a snarl, we were hoping to negotiate whether the payment can begin on 1910-1916, of course it is within your right to withhold delivery until such time.
[NS]Parthini
13-09-2006, 16:31
The Dominion of Australia wishes to petition his majesties british parliament for the right to arrange and organise trade beyond Australian markets.

It is felt in the Australian cabinet that the dominion should not have to trouble the United Kingdom of Great Britian and Ireland with such simple matters of state, furthermore it is believed that for Australia to prosper she must have a means of independantly mandating trade routes beyond her borders.

ooc: In short - if you don't want me pestering you every time I want to trade stuff, you'll grant me the freedoms I thought I had before someone pointed out that I didn't.

Parliament denies Australia the right to govern its own foreign affairs since it openly violates the principle of Empire that every Briton holds dear.

However, Parliament is willing to take requests to assist Australia with creating Trade deals which help Australia.

OOC: If you want to pester me, fine, but there's no way you're going to convince me to give it up any time soon :)
Artitsa
13-09-2006, 16:50
Italy thanks the English for their continued staunch support.
New Dracora
14-09-2006, 05:50
Parthini;11676272']Parliament denies Australia the right to govern its own foreign affairs since it openly violates the principle of Empire that every Briton holds dear.

However, Parliament is willing to take requests to assist Australia with creating Trade deals which help Australia.

OOC: If you want to pester me, fine, but there's no way you're going to convince me to give it up any time soon :)

ooc: Like I need permission anyway :D

*At the mention of 'helping to create trade deals which help Australia' one of the delegation which submitted the petition later let's slip the knowledge of a certain trade agreement already in the works... he then passes out from all the Scotch.*
Sukiaida
14-09-2006, 19:45
Spain apologizes to the King for insulting him, and Portugal for insulting them. And with that business taken care of, assumes that the 10 Battleships near the Canaries are simply on manuevers. And that the current Queen Maria Christina, who there can be no debate (No debate at all, seriously this isn't me telling you, it's simple fact. She's the wife of Alfonso's Father and the queen Regent. Legally she's queen period.) on whether she owns the seat of power or not. She also has named a Prime Minister, and Spain has declared it will not have a King or Queen after Maria CHristina. On her death the monarchy of SPain Ends.

"Oh and one more thing." If Great Britain truly wants the Canary Islands, Spain only requests a reason as to what for, and how much is Great Britain willing to pay for them.
[NS]Parthini
14-09-2006, 22:18
Britain points out that the Canary Islands provide a useful coaling station on the way to and from Central Africa, as well as provide useful strategic benefits, that would serve to help Gibralter with protection of the entrence into the Mediterranean.

Britain offers Spain the chance to present an offer.
Sukiaida
14-09-2006, 22:34
Spain agrees that it does offer an excellent place to coal ships. However, it also makes a superb supply base for the troops currently held in Ceutra and Mellila, and the RIF. Those troops need feeding and arms. And the Canaries are too advantagious.

However, SPain does have Rio Oro and the Western Sahara which are right next door to the Canaries and have much more room for development, and have very little to no Spanish Settlers. (Unlike the Canary Islands.) They also do not have the bloodshed that the RIF and very few SPainards are so inclined to hold onto them. The Canaries have been our possesions for centures, the other two merely a decade if that. (I think not even half a decade) We would be willing to make a deal on those peices of property. Perhaps, 5 points for each. You can buy one or the other or both. In truth we'd be glad to be rid of them. It sucks up troops and money to no end and the people are not too happy with colonialism anyways.

Now as to the security of the Medditerranian. Currently you are allied with Portugal. This gives you a wonderful gift next to the door. But we own, the other hinge. Now the people will not allow us to be "openly" friendly with the British. But with good words, perhaps a few talks in relation to peace. Britain and Portugal could become allies. The United States is seen as friendly itself at this time despite our war with them only a decade ago. If Spain were to build a fortress across from gibraltor, Spain and Britain could own the gateway to the Mediterranian. Of course this is simply statements for the future. The current problems are much more pressing.
[NS]Parthini
14-09-2006, 22:44
Britain has no interest in settling people in Rio de Oro (which is Spanish Sahara, btw) and wonders why, if Spain is so dead set on abandoning its obligation to colonialism, that it feels the need to cling to the Canaries so much, especially if it is willing to sell Rio de Oro.

The Canaries are closer to Rio de Oro than Cueta and Melila which are right across the strait of Gibralter, and can more easily be protected through southern Spain than the Canaries.
Sukiaida
14-09-2006, 23:00
"And how are SPanish ships from our SOuthern Naval Bases supposed to get to our Northern Naval Bases? They must sail through the small enclave, coal in the Canaries and then go North. Portugal refuses fueling on their shores, and the trip is too long to enter Spanish waters again. (With Tech lvl 4.5 this is changing, but this is still with a majority Tech lvl 4 Tech shipping.) The Canaries are a vital to our Navy. It's not a stubborness that we refuse to sell it, it's that we can not."

"And if you do not buy Rio Oro we will have to give it to the Germans or the French. Whichever desires it. But, let us strike some sort of deal. It would be healthier than constantly bickering. One of the southern Islands is called Verdavale. Well the city there is called that. Very few Spanish, very few development. Not alot of work has been done there like it has in other parts of the island. We have done very little there, unlike the amounts of money we've put into the other islands. A large amount of money."

He took a sip of water. "Spain could lease this land to Britain. At .25 Points every five years. You can build a naval base there, have settlers, and still allow us to keep the majority of the canaries for our own fueling needs. That way both countries win in the end."

"And as for our exit from colonialism and the canaries. The Canaries are not a colonial possesion, they are Spain. As are the Bealaric Islands. They are Spain. We can not sell Spain to anyone." (New Nationalism movement in Spain. Happened and spreads a little more than in real life I think.) "We can of course lease it out."
[NS]Parthini
14-09-2006, 23:22
OOC: I'm not sure what you mean.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0f/LocationMorocco_striped.PNG

If you look, the Canaries are pretty far away from Spain, so coaling in them to get to Northern Spain or Northern Morocco would be just plain inefficient.
Sukiaida
14-09-2006, 23:36
OOC; MMM maps I have, put it further north than that. Hmmm if they are that far south, then no I still don't want to sell them. Also it's on what GB stated before. There are some things a country can't sell. But I stick with the basis of a lease program. Aka Britain can have a Guantanamo Bay on one of the islands. Here let me rephrase it here. Mostly it's British bullying. Spain isn't going to just give in. It's going to try and compromise, but it's not going to roll over. That would be detrimental. Let me rephrase it.

IC: "Because Rio De Oro doesn't have Spanish settlers that have lived on them for 600 years. The Canary Islands do. We can not just have our Spanish families leave the islands of their ancestors. That would not be fair of the Spanish Government. Surely the British can understand the power of the roots of an ancestor."

"The Canaries, we offer an island for lease. This island is large, and has much for you to build upon. It will also get our respective navies used to seeing eachother and lesson their tension. Yes the Spanish navy is weak, but seeing a ship that isn't exactly friendly can be nerve wracking to any volunteer sailor, Spanish or British. It can also be a testing ground. If we desire better relations, and we hope the British want better relations with Spain, then we must have a shining example. Valverde, the island de El Heirro, is sparce and has few Spainards to bother you. THose that are there are recent and will have no problem moving to another Canary Island. And all it's inhabitants will be British and under British law. Vandervale can change it's name the island is yours and simply leased for a pittance. It would take 20 years to pay us a single solitary point. And you'd have your coaling station. And we'd have happy people."

"And then once our tests of time are done, we can have alliances. And the gateway to the Mettiteranian. Without a single drop of blood. .25 every 5 years. THat's it. A pittance in the scheme of things. You could even pay in bulk and have the next 20 years or 50 or even 100. If you so desired."
Ato-Sara
16-09-2006, 19:36
The Portuguese ask their allies in Britian for modern arms and artillery to equip their new modern army with.
The British are thanked for their help in moddernising the Portuguese navy and are happy with the four Light cruisers built for them.
[NS]Parthini
16-09-2006, 20:08
Britain agrees to equip the Portuguese Army with British weaponry.
Samtonia
16-09-2006, 20:15
The Kingdom of Norway, working through its ambassador to Britain, Fridtjof Nansen, and his excellent relations with much of the British Government, quietly approaches British officials with inquries about a possible short-term loan at a favorable rate. Nansen assures British officials that the loan will be repaid in full, noting that Norway has had a long and friendly history with Britain and that a loan the size requested is a paltry sum to the British, which they stand to make some decent money off of in a decade's time.

[OOC- I'm basically asking for a loan of 6 in 1908 and 3 in 1909, with .75 to be paid back each year (loan to be paid off in 12 years if payment is kept standard) and interest added on, 2.5 points to be gained from loan after 14 years. So you'll give 9 in two years, you'll get 11.5 in 14 years at most, though it will be quicker. Norway is also pretty willing to try to pay it off as quickly as possible, to get rid of the payments and make some politicians pleasantly surprised by a quicker repayment. So you can hold our feet to the fire for funds at some point if the need arises. :)]
Lesser Ribena
16-09-2006, 20:30
Having noted the preparations for the laying down of ships in US construction yards (pretty much everyone will know what everyone else is building navy wise, especially with intel agencies. You know the US had a whole agency dedicated to finding out other people's naval developments?) the Admiralty is concerned that the RN is losing it's advantage over the USN. It is noted that the US has 4 dreanoughts in various stages of construction as well as 4 battlecruiser whereas Britain has just 3 BCs and two dreadnoughts. The Admiralty wants at least another BC and two dreadnoughts this year to make up the balance sheet.

Admiral of the Fleet Fisher, First Sea Lord, advocates matching them in Dreadnoughts and building more Battlecruisers and submarines. He advocates using the BCs to secure the Empire alongside fast destroyers and light cruisers whilst keeping back the dreadnoughts along with a host of smaller vessels to counter any threats to the British Isles. He wants to fund this through a ruthless program of ship scrapping, selling off or mothballing up to 160 older vessels to free up crews and funding for the modernisation program. By the end of teh decade he would ideally have the majority of the navy to have been built this century and most of it to be oil fuelled. The old vessels he describes as "too weak to fight and too slow to run away" and "a miser's hoard of useless junk", he advocates they be scrapped for new ones or the RN will no longer be the best of the world. He reminds the rest of teh admiralty of the need to better the US in ship numbers and technology as they have just 2 oceans to concentrate on whilst Britain has colonies across the entire globe.

There is public outrage at his ruthless scrapping campaign and there is stiff opposition from many figures in the Admiralty including Admiral Charles Beresford of the Mediterranean Fleet. They see victory going to the side with most ships, no matter their age, and certainly not being won by those who operate beneath the sea with a few torpedo guns instead of on it with large guns in turrets.

OOC: Pretty much what Fisher historically said, especially given the USN's build up of forces. They are not considered an enemy but it would be wise to keep ahead of them for the time being.
[NS]Parthini
17-09-2006, 08:19
The Kingdom of Norway, working through its ambassador to Britain, Fridtjof Nansen, and his excellent relations with much of the British Government, quietly approaches British officials with inquries about a possible short-term loan at a favorable rate. Nansen assures British officials that the loan will be repaid in full, noting that Norway has had a long and friendly history with Britain and that a loan the size requested is a paltry sum to the British, which they stand to make some decent money off of in a decade's time.

[OOC- I'm basically asking for a loan of 6 in 1908 and 3 in 1909, with .75 to be paid back each year (loan to be paid off in 12 years if payment is kept standard) and interest added on, 2.5 points to be gained from loan after 14 years. So you'll give 9 in two years, you'll get 11.5 in 14 years at most, though it will be quicker. Norway is also pretty willing to try to pay it off as quickly as possible, to get rid of the payments and make some politicians pleasantly surprised by a quicker repayment. So you can hold our feet to the fire for funds at some point if the need arises. :)]

Britain points out that due to budget spending towards Naval Endevours, Britain itself is somewhat strapped for cash. However, the Bank of Canada generally has extra capital that is usually available for lending and recommends it for Norway's loan.
[NS]Parthini
17-09-2006, 08:24
Having noted the preparations for the laying down of ships in US construction yards (pretty much everyone will know what everyone else is building navy wise, especially with intel agencies. You know the US had a whole agency dedicated to finding out other people's naval developments?) the Admiralty is concerned that the RN is losing it's advantage over the USN. It is noted that the US has 4 dreanoughts in various stages of construction as well as 4 battlecruiser whereas Britain has just 3 BCs and two dreadnoughts. The Admiralty wants at least another BC and two dreadnoughts this year to make up the balance sheet.

Admiral of the Fleet Fisher, First Sea Lord, advocates matching them in Dreadnoughts and building more Battlecruisers and submarines. He advocates using the BCs to secure the Empire alongside fast destroyers and light cruisers whilst keeping back the dreadnoughts along with a host of smaller vessels to counter any threats to the British Isles. He wants to fund this through a ruthless program of ship scrapping, selling off or mothballing up to 160 older vessels to free up crews and funding for the modernisation program. By the end of teh decade he would ideally have the majority of the navy to have been built this century and most of it to be oil fuelled. The old vessels he describes as "too weak to fight and too slow to run away" and "a miser's hoard of useless junk", he advocates they be scrapped for new ones or the RN will no longer be the best of the world. He reminds the rest of teh admiralty of the need to better the US in ship numbers and technology as they have just 2 oceans to concentrate on whilst Britain has colonies across the entire globe.

There is public outrage at his ruthless scrapping campaign and there is stiff opposition from many figures in the Admiralty including Admiral Charles Beresford of the Mediterranean Fleet. They see victory going to the side with most ships, no matter their age, and certainly not being won by those who operate beneath the sea with a few torpedo guns instead of on it with large guns in turrets.

OOC: Pretty much what Fisher historically said, especially given the USN's build up of forces. They are not considered an enemy but it would be wise to keep ahead of them for the time being.

3 Tech Level 4.5 Battleships were sold to the Bulgarians, and an additional two Tech Level 4 Battleships were scrapped.

To make up the losses, an additional Battlecrusier was laid down this year, with another 3 Dreadnoughts set down. Three Light Cruisers will be completed and added to the new navies of the three Dominions, while a Destroyer Flotilla was created. Research also began for Long Range Submarines, and Amphibious Doctrine.

An additional 5 Battleships will either be sold or scrapped in 1907, as Fisher, with the support of the King, pushes through his plans. He shows evidence of the need for a large Navy with the troubles in the Balkans and the potential for it to explode and the need for the Navy to be able to protect it's colonies and allies in the case of French or German expansionism.
Whittlesfield
17-09-2006, 12:52
Greece would like to buy Battleships from UK. The Greek King also puts pressure on his British brother-in-law to persuade Austria to not send the whole continent in to war, as Greece was only reclaiming its rightful territories. He also requests that Britain revokes its sale of battleships to Bulgaria, as they endanger the very existance of Greece. King George I hopes that King Edward VII, his close friend as well as brother-in-law will come to the rescue of the Greek people.
Amestria
18-09-2006, 00:32
France asks England to deploy naval forces to secure the neutrality of the English Channel and keep it free of belligerents.
Artitsa
18-09-2006, 01:50
Italy notes that this would violate Britains Neutrality.
Amestria
18-09-2006, 04:41
July 19, 907

The French Government informs England that in the event of war with Japan France will formally cede its colonies New Caledonia and the French China concessions in Hainan (with the understanding the UK will not give them to anyone else) for a fair price rather then let them fall into the hands of an enemy power that would brutalize the French Colonial Population and is friendly to Germany.

France advises England to stand ready with ships and men to take possession of all these areas.
Sukiaida
18-09-2006, 17:21
Britain is asked if Spain's offer is accepted, and if so is Great Britain willing to sell Spain what it's army has a limited supply of: machine guns.
[NS]Parthini
18-09-2006, 18:19
Britain is asked if Spain's offer is accepted, and if so is Great Britain willing to sell Spain what it's army has a limited supply of: machine guns.

Britiain informs Spain that its poor business sense (equal to that of its French Neighbors) has caused Britain to no longer wish to negotiate with the Spanish nation, which it seems is now run by fools.

(you offered to sell me Rio de Oro, and then sold it to the French. This is gonna hurt relations for a long time.)
Sukiaida
18-09-2006, 18:27
(Actually I disagree and think this was a no-win situation in the first place. Great Britain refused to buy Rio De Oro. It's like the child who wants a single peice of cake and refuses the apple. And when the apple is given to another child who wants it, that child suddenly gets angry. But that's fine, I gather if they don't want to negotiate, then they will either invade the Canaries, or Spain. Or I can develop the area in peace.)
[NS]Parthini
18-09-2006, 22:06
(Actually I disagree and think this was a no-win situation in the first place. Great Britain refused to buy Rio De Oro. It's like the child who wants a single peice of cake and refuses the apple. And when the apple is given to another child who wants it, that child suddenly gets angry. But that's fine, I gather if they don't want to negotiate, then they will either invade the Canaries, or Spain. Or I can develop the area in peace.)

OOC: I never specifically said I didn't want to buy it, and while we were technically still discussing it, you went and sold it to France, without even telling me. Bad business practice that is.
Sukiaida
18-09-2006, 22:14
("Britain has no interest in settling people in Rio de Oro" That's a direct quote from you. That's a full refusal. You constantly badgered for the Canaries and I offered you a peice of it. The offer still stands for a little while longer. Also you didn't respond for a while on it. So I gave it away. In truth I was giving you some of what you wanted in the first place.)

(And I did tell you I'd sell it to France if you didn't buy it. It was one of my statements, if you don't want it I am giving it to France. I specifically stated this. I forewarned you. So no I did exactly what I was supposed to.)

( In the end it's probably better to take the offer of an enclave. That way you'd have the exact base you wanted. And you wouldn't have to develop the whole Canaries. It'd be more beneficial than if you'd bought the Rio De Oro. And alot cheaper. I gather Parliment would jump at the chance to get their way. ANd also by ignoring the "Bad Business" practice as you state, then they'd have more capable a time in an ally. To be blunt, Portugal isn't that large a nation. And Spain has a great advantage strategically. In the end I hope we can just agree on the Naval Base on the Canaries. Cause personally all this arguing with Great Britain is giving me a Physical headache.)
Ottoman Khaif
19-09-2006, 01:50
The Ottoman Ambassador to Britain, approaches the British Government, in light of recent events in Europe, the Ottoman Governments views its in the best interest of the two nations to sign a treaty of alliance to defend our interest in the Middle East.
[NS]Parthini
19-09-2006, 02:33
Britain agrees to a 20 year lease for an island of the Canaries paid in full in 1908. (.25 points every 5 years right?)

The foreign office agrees to the alliance between the Ottoman Empire and Britain, and Sir Grey arrives in Constantinople to sign it.
[NS]Parthini
19-09-2006, 02:59
A bill is put into Parliament calling for Ireland to become a Dominion, similar to that of Canada or Australia. Home Rule has been a rather touchy subject lately with several protests on both sides. Bills calling for Ulster, or parts of Ulster to remain part of Britain have been put forth and denied. However, this Bill calls for the entire island to be united in the Dominion of Ireland. Ulster Protestants are comforted with the knowledge that they will still remain a part of the Empire, and that the Anglican Church will not leave them to the Catholics.

The bill however meets a lot of resistance in the House of Lords and debate continues for several days.
Lesser Ribena
19-09-2006, 13:31
Unionists across Ireland are appaled at the UK government forcing them to seperate into a seperate state. The largely protestant Ulster regions do not wish to be ruled by the Southern predominantly Catholic regions who will undoubtedly discriminate against the Church of Ireland and the landed gentry and middle classes in the South fear large taxes to be imposed by a nationalist Irish government. The House of Lords looks set to vote against the matter, with most lords being Conservative, and stop the act being passed.

OOC: The only way to get this through this early on would be to pass the Parliament act of 1911 earlier to stop the Lords vetoing bills (though you'd have to have the King's support to get the parliament act passed as this has to go through the Lords first and the only way to counter the Conservative Party's majority there is to get the King to create more Liberal peers to sit in teh Hosue of Lords to get a Liberal Party majority). The Parliament act will also get the MPs paid, which will get you more Liberal MPs willing to leave their regular jobs to sit in the Commons, the act also reduces the maximum length of a parliament to 5 years from 7. Following the act the Lords can delay bills for up to 2 years but cannot veto them.

I hope that made sense, British political history is great fun...
Sukiaida
19-09-2006, 18:22
(Parts of Ireland want independence and parts want to stay with Britain. It's a funky thing.)

Spain agress, and will remove it's settlers on the island. (The population of the island is only 1800 today in 2006. So it's probably a few hundred back then. So not too hard. Allows you full development.)

Also notified that construction of a SPanish Naval Yard will be built on another Canary Island. (Basically the island you are getting is undeveloped completely. Have fun with it.)
Sukiaida
19-09-2006, 22:24
December 1907:

Great Britain is notified that a fortress will be built across from Gibraltor. That seems common knowledge, why it's sent through informal networks and kept secret seems to be rather spurious.

The second part of the letter quickly denotes why. "A Fortress will be built opposite Gibraltor, once an Alliance with Britain has been formed in the future. With France in chaos, it's best that Western Europe is friendly. With Portugal, Spain, and Great Britain having built fortresses and naval bases in and around the entrance to the Meditteranian, and the Suez Canal, Great Britain and her Allies would own the inner sea. A Fortress will be built, but not until that Alliance has been signed. In the future."
Whittlesfield
19-09-2006, 22:43
King George I sends his brother in law King Edward VII a message pleading for British diplomatic intervention in current events in the Balkans.
Galveston Bay
20-09-2006, 03:31
Public opinion in the UK is firmly against the Greeks in the Balkan War after news accounts of Greek aggression and stubborness become public knowledge
Whittlesfield
20-09-2006, 11:59
King George I will travel to the UK immediatly to convince his brother-in-law of the need for British mediation. A Greek diplomat speaks to the British press:
"I understand many of you now see Greece as an aggressive nation now, but let me tell you, that we acting for good reason. Treaty bound with Rumania, we entered the war between Bulgaria and Rumania on the side of our allies, and intended to reclaim the rightfully Greek lands of Pirin Macedonia. After receiving many reports of the persecution of Greeks in Albania, we also invaded ethnically Greek lands to help free our fellow Greeks. Sensing an opportunity to grab more land, the Dual Monarchy of Austro-Hungary then attacked our troops in Albania, claiming an ultimatum had been issued, something which we did not receive. Now even Germany is inciting war, despite the fact we have complied with the original German demands to withdraw from Bulgaria, and that Germany has played no active part in this war. If a British subject was to be under threat in another land, how would the mighty British Empire act? It would respond with force, as us Greeks have seen under the failed leadership of a previous Monarch. Our King, and the brother-in-law of your very own King will shortly be arriving in London, to persuade the King to mediate in the Oslo Conference, where the very identity of Greece is under threat from much larger countries. We hope that one of our strongest allies can help bring some balance to the current discussions, as the Greeks see the British likes brothers, just as our King sees yours."
Abbassia
20-09-2006, 13:01
Seeing that the Greek are calling for unnessecery British support in the Oslo conference and that the Greek King (of German House of Oldenburg) is off gallavanting to visit England for support (OOC: something would be immediately known and gossiped around in the London Diplomatic Society), the Bulgarian Monarch (of the same house Saxe-Coburg and Gotha) remains unfazed as he knows that his Cousin would have better things to do but sends an informal letter anyways asking about the Royal Family and asks whether or not can the Bulgarian Royalty can visit their relations in England sometime along the year.

Although nothing is directly mentioned about the Balkans, The king hints in a short verse: "We hope this affair in the Balkans has not bothered you much, as things might thankfully return to normal, we hope you can visit us in the years to come".

Other parts of the letter are jovial and informal and are a gesture of good familial ties with a sincere hope that he would hear from him.

OOC: Seriously I thought the Greek King was pro-German...
Malkyer
21-09-2006, 00:28
The new French government of the National Liberal Front sends a message to the British government, requesting that a meeting take place between the two nations in order to repair relations and move beyond the unpleasantness of the past months.

Foreign Minister Robert is currently meeting with the American President in Washington, but following his discussions there France would be happy to send him to London.
[NS]Parthini
21-09-2006, 05:22
Britain replies that while it viewed France's sudden withdrawl from the Franco-Russian Alliance as cowardly and decietful, Britain is willing to meet with France to ensure that its closest neighbor remains at least on talking matters.

(Now I understand when the AI doesn't ally with me when I invade someone when I have an open borders agreement with them in Civ IV :P)
Whittlesfield
22-09-2006, 18:41
Parth, can I have a response?
New Dornalia
22-09-2006, 19:41
The nascent Republic of China sends a telegram to Britain, asking for diplomatic recognition.
[NS]Parthini
23-09-2006, 00:48
King George I sends his brother in law King Edward VII a message pleading for British diplomatic intervention in current events in the Balkans.

Edward politely tells his In-law that he got himself into this whole business of listening to the Russians and has to get himself out of it. However, Britain feels that any retaliation by either Bulgaria or Albania is out of the question and that Britain will support Greece in the event that either country or Austria invades the lands internationally recognized as Greece.
[NS]Parthini
23-09-2006, 00:49
The nascent Republic of China sends a telegram to Britain, asking for diplomatic recognition.

Britain politely responds that it will withold diplomatic recognition until the area settles down.
[NS]Parthini
23-09-2006, 01:44
Build: 1907
Home Population: 44 million
Colonial Population: 381 million
Growth (Regular Spending): 3%
Income: 19 Production Centers, 48 Resources, 40 shipping units, 10 ocean liner units

76 Factories + 48 resources + 2.46 food resource points + 50 commerce points+4 Argentine points+19.75 Canadian points+18.05 Australian points+5 South African points+8 Japanese Points=231.26 points

Maintenance: 50.45

Home Social Spending: Level III-14.6
Empire Social Spending: Level I-38.1

Domestic Builds:

7 shipping unit-21

2 points to Ottoman Empire

3 points for Cape-Cairo (2/12 years)

Intelligence Agency-5 points

3 points for energy

.11 points to Unionists in Ireland

Military Builds:

10 points for DN (paid) (HMS Superb) (year 2/3)
4 points for DN (8 left) (HMS) (year 1/3)
4 points for DN (8 left) (HMS) (year 1/3)
4 points for DN (8 left) (HMS) (year 1/3)

8 points for BC (paid) (HMS Invincible) (year 2/3)
8 points for BC (paid) (HMS Inflexible) (year 2/3)
8 points for BC (paid) (HMS Indomitable) (year 2/3)

4 points for BC (4 left) (Argentinean) (year 2/3)

4 points for BC (8 left) (HMS) (year 1/3)
4 points for BC (8 left) (HMS) (year 1/3)
4 points for BC (8 left) (HMS) (year 1/3)
4 points for BC (8 left) (HMS) (year 1/3)
4 points for BC (8 left) (HMS) (year 1/3)

4 points for BC (8 left) (Japanese) (year 1/3)
4 points for BC (8 left) (Japanese) (year 1/3)

1 point for LC (Canadian) (year 2/2)
1 point for LC (Australian) (year 2/2)
1 point for LC (South African) (year 2/2)

Destroyer Flotilla-6 points

Amphibious Doctrine-6 points

Long Range Submarines-6 points (year ½)

Growth: 3%

5.55 factories+.5=6 new production center

Energy:

Have- 5 coal, 1 oil (Persia)
Need-12
Import-6 (American, cost 3)
[NS]Parthini
23-09-2006, 02:18
Build: 1908
Home Population: 44 million
Colonial Population: 381 million
Growth (Regular Spending): 3%
Income: 25 Production Centers, 48 Resources, 54 shipping units, 10 ocean liner units

100 Factories + 48 resources + 2.46 food resource points + 57 commerce points+19.75 Canadian points+19 Australian points+21 South African points+8 Japanese Points=275.21 points

Maintenance: 50.70

Home Social Spending: Level III-14.6
Empire Social Spending: Level I-38.1

Domestic Builds:

7 shipping unit-21

2 points to Ottoman Empire

3 points for Cape-Cairo (3/12 years)

1 point for Infrastructure upgrade in Ireland (year ½)

Intelligence Agency-5 points

3 points for energy

.81 points to Unionists in Ireland

Military Builds:

0 points for DN (paid) (HMS Superb) (year 3/3)

8 points for DN (paid) (HMS Téméraire) (year 2/3)
8 points for DN (paid) (HMS St Vincent) (year 2/3)
8 points for DN (paid) (HMS Collingwood) (year 2/3)

4 points for DN (8 left) (HMS Vanguard) (year 1/3)
4 points for DN (8 left) (HMS Neptune) (year 1/3)
4 points for DN (8 left) (HMS Colossus) (year 1/3)
4 points for DN (8 left) (HMS Hercules) (year 1/3)

0 points for BC (paid) (HMS Invincible) (year 3/3)
0 points for BC (paid) (HMS Inflexible) (year 3/3)
0 points for BC (paid) (HMS Indomitable) (year 3/3)

4 points for BC (paid) (Argentinean) (year 3/3)

8 points for BC (paid) (HMS Indefatigable) (year 2/3)
8 points for BC (paid) (HMS Lion) (year 2/3)
8 points for BC (paid) (HMS Princess Royal) (year 2/3)
8 points for BC (paid) (HMS Queen Mary) (year 2/3)
8 points for BC (paid) (HMS Tiger) (year 2/3)

4 points for BC (8 left) (Japanese) (year 2/3)
4 points for BC (8 left) (Japanese) (year 2/3)

4 points for BC (8 left) (HMS Leopard) (year 1/3)
4 points for BC (8 left) (HMS Panther) (year 1/3)
4 points for BC (8 left) (HMS Renown) (year 1/3)
4 points for BC (8 left) (HMS Repulse) (year 1/3)
4 points for BC (8 left) (HMS Resistance) (year 1/3)
4 points for BC (8 left) (HMS Courageous) (year 1/3)
4 points for BC (8 left) (HMS Glorious) (year 1/3)
4 points for BC (8 left) (HMS Furious) (year 1/3)

Destroyer Flotilla-6 points

Long Range Submarines-6 points (year 2/2)

Growth: 3%

5.55 factories+.5=6 new production center

Energy:

Have- 5 coal, 1 oil (Persia)
Need-12
Import-6 (American, cost 3)
Cylea
23-09-2006, 06:42
OOC: heads up for ya. US coal reserves are not quite as high as i thought they would be. Do you think it would be possible to get 3 coal from me and 3 coal for Canada? I'm not going to be able to support 3 industrial powers at once like i thought i would after a rules clarification for me...

Let me know
Haneastic
23-09-2006, 14:39
The Japanese quietly inquire as if they could hurridely acquire an HQ unit, on loan or bought.

OOC: and when i saw hurridely, I say ASAP. I could also go for a theater supply unit if necessary
[NS]Parthini
23-09-2006, 16:21
The Japanese quietly inquire as if they could hurridely acquire an HQ unit, on loan or bought.

OOC: and when i saw hurridely, I say ASAP. I could also go for a theater supply unit if necessary

OOC: If Japan is able to sned me the money in 1908, I am willing to make it.
[NS]Parthini
23-09-2006, 17:13
In Early 1908, Prime Minister Henry Campbell-Bannerman's health begins to deteriorate. In April the Prime Minister officially resigned as Prime Minister and had his seat taken by Chancellor of the Exchequer, Herbert Henry Asquith.

With the new PM in his place, he began to push for the new Home Rule Bill proposed earlier last year. Falling into stagnation after several foreign affairs distracted Parliament, HH Asquith pushes for Ireland to become a dominion, calling it a "great compromise" for the Irish and the Empire.

At the same time, with the funds flowing in from the Dominions, HH Asquith and his Liberal Government proposes a further expansion of the Navy as well as several Land Taxes. Both of these outrage the Conservatives who call the Navy a "tremendous waste of money" since there is no threat in Europe. Many Liberals retort that all nations are a potential threat, and that the only way for Britain to remain neutral is for it to have a superior Navy. As for the Land Taxes, it raises a new constitutional Crisis, forcing the country into a General Election in May.
Ato-Sara
23-09-2006, 17:27
The Marinha Portuguesa enquires of the possibilty of purchasing a flotilla of Gunboats in 1909
[NS]Parthini
23-09-2006, 17:43
The Marinha Portuguesa enquires of the possibilty of purchasing a flotilla of Gunboats in 1909

Britain points out that it is able to build a set of Gunboats for Portugal in the case that Portugal is able to pay Britian back!
Safehaven2
23-09-2006, 17:50
OOC: Got enough ships Parth..
Ato-Sara
23-09-2006, 17:53
Parthini;11720834']Britain points out that it is able to build a set of Gunboats for Portugal in the case that Portugal is able to pay Britian back!

OOC: Eh? I don't understand
[NS]Parthini
23-09-2006, 17:53
OOC: Got enough ships Parth..

OOC: Not nearly :) Hey, don't complain, the more I build, the more you can build!
[NS]Parthini
23-09-2006, 17:54
OOC: Eh? I don't understand

You have to give me the money on time since I'm too busy building a bigger fleet than all of Europe combined.
Ato-Sara
23-09-2006, 17:56
Parthini;11720894']You have to give me the money on time since I'm too busy building a bigger fleet than all of Europe combined.

OOC: Oh yeah sure, assume whenever the Portuguese ask to buy something, that they will pay on time unless I say otherwise.
Abbassia
23-09-2006, 18:08
The British Government is informed that the Bulgarian Government is enquiring about cancelling the Bulgarian purchase of the 3 BB2, this is due to many factors including recent unprovoked Aggression and continued stuborness of some treacherous neighbors.

It should be noted it is good to cancel the deal while the ships are still in Great Britain and no points have been paid by Bulgaria, at any rate the importance of the ships has considerably passed aswell with Bulgaria surviving recent aggressions.
[NS]Parthini
23-09-2006, 18:13
The British Government is informed that the Bulgarian Government is enquiring about cancelling the Bulgarian purchase of the 3 BB2, this is due to many factors including recent unprovoked Aggression and continued stuborness of some treacherous neighbors.

It should be noted it is good to cancel the deal while the ships are still in Great Britain and no points have been paid by Bulgaria, at any rate the importance of the ships has considerably passed aswell with Bulgaria surviving recent aggressions.

Britain informs Bulgaria that the plan is acceptable and that the three BB2s will be scrapped instead, but informs Bulgaria that there are still many BB2s remaining and will continue to remain in service for at least a decade (so you have time)
Abbassia
23-09-2006, 18:21
Britain is thanked and informed that in due time their offer shall be considered.
Haneastic
23-09-2006, 18:50
Parthini;11720535']OOC: If Japan is able to sned me the money in 1908, I am willing to make it.

I can do it in 1909, since that's coming right up
Bazalonia
25-09-2006, 07:22
A letter is dispatched to England from Copenhagen inquiring about the possibility of purchasing a Dreadnaught "in the near future"

OOC: This is just a query to see if England would be ammenable to the purchase of a DN by Denmark for defense purposes.
Galveston Bay
25-09-2006, 18:20
ooc
just did Chilean builds as they weren't done for 1907 or 08

IC
Chilean government informs the British and Canadian governments that it will pay 6 points in 1906, 7 points in 1908, 7 points in 1909 and the balance of 6 points (which includes interest) in 1910 therefore paying its loan in full at that time.
Malkyer
25-09-2006, 23:26
The Third Republic requests that Foreign Minister Vespasien Robert be allowed to meet with his British counterparts, in order to try to repair Anglo-French relations following France's recent fall from grace in the eyes of many Europeans; the potential benefit to both nations of a re-established Entente Cordiale is emphasized.
New Dracora
26-09-2006, 08:24
ooc: Dunno if you wanna go with this but it is a part of history... 'cept for the dialogue of course.

*During the 1909 Imperial conference in London, Alfred Deakin - Prime Minister of the Dominion of Australia and Captain William Rooke Creswell - Director of the Commonwealth Naval Forces, actively petition the British government for its agreement to scrap the subsidy system and develop an independant Australian navy.*

Creswell:
"With all the present troubles in the world it is about time Australia was permitted to maintain a proper navy. Given the expansive size of our coastline, the amount of ships presently fielded by both the commonwealth naval forces and her majesties royal navy could almost be called pitiful..."

Deakin:
"I believe it is in the best interests of the empire to provide the Dominion of Australia with a decent navy as well as the authority to maintain it directly. With the empire of China distingrating into the chaos of internal civil strife, it is quite possible - given the present system - that a rogue warlord with a fleet of wooden junks could overwhelm the naval forces presently stationed in Sydney harbour. They could do it before the navy even leaves the harbour in fact, given how long it presently takes for authorisation from the admirality to reach our little corner of the world. Please, we in Australia have capable men willing to defend her shores, let us do so."
Galveston Bay
26-09-2006, 09:09
considerable support, especially from fiscal conservatives, develops for the idea of seperate Australian and Canadian navies, if for no other reason than to provide more trained manpower in the case of war.
Whittlesfield
26-09-2006, 10:57
Greece requests a British presence in the Balkans to keep the current peace.
[NS]Parthini
26-09-2006, 22:54
After much debate, Parliament agrees to let Australia man its own navy. Debates rage for days while the Liberal members wish to continue their hold on the dominions and feel that this is just one step towards total independance of Australia and then South Africa and then Canada and then India, all of which lead to British ruin.

However, many other members are convinced of the Conservatives' remarks that allowing Australia to maintain its own navy will be logical, fiscally as well as strategically. Parliament finally agrees to let Australia man and pay for its own navy, but insists that the Royal Navy still have docks in Australia, including the soon to be financed Sydney Port Facility.

Parliament announces that as of January 1st, 1909, the Royal Australian Navy will be created and administered (paid for) by the Dominion of Australia, and a gift of a Light Crusier, the HMS Sydney, will be presented as the foundation of the fledgling navy.
Whittlesfield
26-09-2006, 23:04
King George of the Hellenes sends a telegram to his brother-in-law:

Dearest Brother-In-Law,
We are well aware that we got ourselves in to this mess, but we led to believe that with the Russians, French, and Italians on our side, the prospect of a much larger war would be avoidable. However, the current situation sees us under threat from Austro-Hungary. Bulgaria also threatens to invade Greek territory, despite the fact that Greece inflicted very little damage to Bulgaria, and voluntarily withdrew, to prevent the entry of Germany in the war against Greece. I ask you dear brother, and friend, to send troops to assist Greece, not to wage a war of aggression, but to convince all nations that the time of peace has come. I also beg of you to send a diplomatic envoy to the Kaiser, and help stop Germany entering the war against us, even if we agreed to their original demands,
George
Bazalonia
27-09-2006, 02:06
A letter is dispatched to England from Copenhagen inquiring about the possibility of purchasing a Dreadnaught "in the near future"

OOC: This is just a query to see if England would be ammenable to the purchase of a DN by Denmark for defense purposes.

OOC: Still waiting for a reply
Hosagovinia
27-09-2006, 02:16
OOC: Tag, but a correspondence is coming shortly.
[NS]Parthini
27-09-2006, 02:18
OOC: Still waiting for a reply

OOC: Sorry, stuff gets lost sometimes.

IC: The Admiralty points out that Denmark's friendliness towards Germany is somewhat of a disturbance to Britain and points out that a more "neutral" Denmark would convince the British people that constructing such a powerful weapon as the Dreadnought would not turn around and bite Britain in the butt.
Malkyer
27-09-2006, 02:20
The new French government of the National Liberal Front sends a message to the British government, requesting that a meeting take place between the two nations in order to repair relations and move beyond the unpleasantness of the past months.

Foreign Minister Robert is currently meeting with the American President in Washington, but following his discussions there France would be happy to send him to London.

*cough*
[NS]Parthini
27-09-2006, 02:41
*cough*

OOC: eww... gross... erm...

IC: The British Government agrees to accept the new French Government.
Bazalonia
27-09-2006, 02:48
Parthini;11737468']OOC: Sorry, stuff gets lost sometimes.

IC: The Admiralty points out that Denmark's friendliness towards Germany is somewhat of a disturbance to Britain and points out that a more "neutral" Denmark would convince the British people that constructing such a powerful weapon as the Dreadnought would not turn around and bite Britain in the butt.

The king re-iterates Danish policy of neutrality in armed conflict and emphasises the fact that there are unspecified nations with larger militaries and a Dreadnought would be vital to Denmarks continued capbilities to defend itself should aggressors arise to threaten Denmark.

The King however also notes the current economic dependance on Germany by Denmark and provides an estimate of 4 or 5 years for total-economic independance from the German market for the Danish economy.
[NS]Parthini
27-09-2006, 02:54
Britain asks if Denmark is able to provide the exact amount of points to construct a Dreadnought. If Denmark is able, then Britain is willing to construct a Dreadnought if Denmark continues to abide by its neutrality and signs a treaty of friendship with Britain.
Bazalonia
27-09-2006, 04:19
A treaty of friendship is brought before the Danish parliment for them to ratify, between Danish and British people.

The British government is also informed that due to other projects money will not be available until 1911 and a suggestion is made that production of the Dreadnought should not start until that time.
Hosagovinia
27-09-2006, 05:38
A letter from the Office of the President

Dear Prime Minister Henry Campbell-Bannerman,

I, on behalf of all of Albania, wish to express our urge to establish offical dimplomatic relations with the United Kingdom. We have always envied the United Kingdom, and fully support their choice of democracy.

At first, these relations shall consist of an embassy exchange. Albania wishes to establish and embassy in London, and would only expect you to wish to establish one in Tirana. By exchanging embassies, our nations will grow together. An exchange of embassies will also allow for quicker and easier communication between our nations.

Albanian would also be intersetted in hostin gthe Prime Minister and/or the King on an offical dimplomatic visit to Albania to discuss our relations. If nothing more then to meet each other.

We also support the British position on the Blakans war. The Greek invasion was wrong and unjust, and we thank you for remaining neutral and not supporting such a rogue nation. We see the British as a peace-loving nation, and hope to strengthen our ties.

May I wish you God's speed.

Sincerly,

Turkhan Pasha
President of the Republic

Aleksander Gjon
State Minister of Foreign Affairs
[NS]Parthini
27-09-2006, 22:04
Following the ratification of the Friendship Treaty, Britain agrees to construct a Dreadnought for Denmark in 1911.

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Britain affirms the recognition of Albania but decides to hold off on a visit to Albania citing the troubling times in the Balkans, but informing Albania that a visit will happen in due time.
Sukiaida
27-09-2006, 22:07
Spain wishes to discuss something with the British. It pertains to current events as well as the Mediterranian. (Sp >_<)
[NS]Parthini
28-09-2006, 01:52
Build: 1909
Home Population: 44 million
Colonial Population: 381 million
Growth (Regular Spending): 3%
Income: 31 Production Centers, 48 Resources, 61 shipping units, 10 ocean liner units

124 Factories + 48 resources + 2.46 food resource points + 64 commerce points+19.75 Canadian points+19 Australian points+22 South African points+8 Japanese Points=308.95 points

Maintenance: 50.85

Home Social Spending: Level III-14.6
Empire Social Spending: Level I-38.1

Domestic Builds:

7 shipping unit-21

2 points to Ottoman Empire

3 points for Cape-Cairo (4/12 years)

1 point for Infrastructure upgrade in Ireland (year 2/2)

Intelligence Agency-5 points

1 points for energy

.41 to Unionists in Ireland

SIC: 2 points to Shanghai Government

Military Builds: 164.41

0 points for DN (paid) (HMS Téméraire) (year 3/3)
0 points for DN (paid) (HMS St Vincent) (year 3/3)
0 points for DN (paid) (HMS Collingwood) (year 3/3)

4 points for DN (4 left) (HMS Vanguard) (year 2/3)
4 points for DN (4 left) (HMS Neptune) (year 2/3)
4 points for DN (4 left) (HMS Colossus) (year 2/3)
4 points for DN (4 left) (HMS Hercules) (year 2/3)

0 points for BC (paid) (HMS Indefatigable) (year 3/3)
0 points for BC (paid) (HMS Lion) (year 3/3)
0 points for BC (paid) (HMS Princess Royal) (year 3/3)
0 points for BC (paid) (HMS Queen Mary) (year 3/3)
0 points for BC (paid) (HMS Tiger) (year 3/3)

4 points for BC (0 left) (Japanese) (year 3/3)
4 points for BC (0 left) (Japanese) (year 3/3)

4 points for BC (4 left) (HMS Leopard) (year 2/3)
4 points for BC (4 left) (HMS Panther) (year 2/3)
4 points for BC (4 left) (HMS Renown) (year 2/3)
4 points for BC (4 left) (HMS Repulse) (year 2/3)
4 points for BC (4 left) (HMS Resistance) (year 2/3)
4 points for BC (4 left) (HMS Courageous) (year 2/3)
4 points for BC (4 left) (HMS Glorious) (year 2/3)
4 points for BC (4 left) (HMS Furious) (year 2/3)

4 points for BC (8 left) (HMS Hood) (year 1/3)
4 points for BC (8 left) (HMS Howe) (year 1/3)
4 points for BC (8 left) (HMS Rodney) (year 1/3)
4 points for BC (8 left) (HMS Anson) (year 1/3)

6 points for Destroyer Flotilla
6 points for Destroyer Flotilla
6 points for Destroyer Flotilla
6 points for Destroyer Flotilla
6 points for Destroyer Flotilla
6 points for Destroyer Flotilla
6 points for Destroyer Flotilla
6 points for Destroyer Flotilla
6 points for Destroyer Flotilla

18 points for Singapore Naval Yard

6 points for Fiji Naval Base
6 points for Perth Naval Base
6 points for Brisbane Naval Base
6 points for Diego Garcia Naval Base

Growth: 3%

7.1 factories=7 new production center

Energy:

Have- 10 coal, 1 oil (Persia)
Need-12
Import-1 (American, cost 1)
Galveston Bay
28-09-2006, 02:42
Conservatives in Parliament want a tax cut to stimulate growth (ooc cut spending level)

ooc
also, note the post earlier in South African thread regarding discovery and development of 5 coal resources in modern day Zimbabwe
Hosagovinia
28-09-2006, 23:31
Parthini;11739711']Following the ratification of the Friendship Treaty, Britain agrees to construct a Dreadnought for Denmark in 1911.

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Britain affirms the recognition of Albania but decides to hold off on a visit to Albania citing the troubling times in the Balkans, but informing Albania that a visit will happen in due time.

OOC: What about the exchange of embassies?
New Dornalia
30-09-2006, 02:29
Chiang Kai-Shek sends a letter to the British Government, asking him if the Republic of China can be recognized by the United Kingdom as the government of Fujian, Guangdong, Shandong, Hunan, Zhejiang, Jiangxi and Guangxi Provinces. He assures the British Government Hong Kong would not be molested.
[NS]Parthini
30-09-2006, 05:55
The Treaty of Hong Kong is sent back to London for approval by Parliament, which ratified it by a landslide. Few at home are hesitant to expand the Empire. Some unease about recognizing the Republic of China presents itself during debates, but all believe that recognition combined with economic aid to the fledgling state will have a geometric effect on relations with Eastern countries, including Japan who recognized China quickly.

Most are relieved at the fact that Britain made no attempts to promise to protect China.

In Shanghai the British and citizens vote on a Municipal Council which will act as a Parliament for the city. However, in reality, the Council has little power other than to approve city ordinances ordered by the newly appointed Governor-General who wields tremendous power. However, Shanghai is guarenteed equal social services (including manditory schooling where manditory English is taught) and protection as its neighbor Hong Kong and the citizens are promised prosperity and strength under the aid of Britain and King George.

Meanwhile, more secretly, several emissaries travel to Tibet and Yunnan Province to discuss the future of relations between Britain and the two entities.
Ato-Sara
30-09-2006, 16:38
The Marinha Portuguesa respectfully requests the construction of an Armoured Cruiser in 1910 and two further Armoured Cruisers in 1912.
Payment will be prompt as always.
Lesser Ribena
30-09-2006, 16:47
Admiral Fisher is content to sit with the current number of Battlecruisers if budget cuts force him to, but would advocate that the treasury checks the Secret Service Bureau's (MI6) files on current US construction before commiting to any course of action, particularly the 13 Dreadnoughts that they have in varying states of construction. Fisher would seek to counter these with further BCs and long range subs if the budget is available to him.
[NS]Parthini
30-09-2006, 19:28
Our allies in Portugal are granted their request, and construction of the first Armored Cruiser will begin.

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The Admiralty informs Admiral Fisher (I take it he's not angry and won't retire this year!) that after reviewing MI6 files on US construction, continuing construction of more DNs and BCs will begin, and that after testing of several Long Range submarines, the Admiralty is happy with their performance and will order another several squadrons this year.

Debates rage in the Admiralty over the issue of Dominion Navies. Many support the idea so that a larger navy can be constructed, while others argue that the dominions will get even more independant with their new navies and might try things such as the Australian Trade deal.

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In Parliament, several Liberals and pro-Dominioners propose a plan that will, according to them, balance out the Dominions' independant thinking. An Imperial Parliament, something which was brought up several decades earlier has begun to show up. Many believe that adding seats to Parliament, or even creating a new Parliament altogether, but including South African, Canadian and Australian MPs will bring the Dominions closer to Britain. Some support is recieved, but anything regarding a bill doesn't surface. However, the idea is placed in the minds of many MPs, especially the younger ones and the idea may surface later.
Lesser Ribena
01-10-2006, 11:22
OOC: Actually fisher is due to retire this year, coming up to his 70th birthday. He is replaced by a couple of fairly bland characters until HSH Prince Louis of Battenburg gets the job, being the father of the famous Earl Mountbatten of Burma. He gets replaced by Fisher at the outbreak of the Great War, due to Battenburgs's German ancestry. So if you ever go to war with the Germans you can bring Fisher back (also Battenburg will change his name to Mountbatten), but otherwise you will have him in 1912.
Cylea
04-10-2006, 14:34
President Roosevelt arrives in London on the first leg of his European Tour on May 2nd 1910. He hopes to spend the next three days touring the city and English countryside after meeting with British officials of note on issues of state. Roosevelt appears especially enthusiastic to visit Parliament and other historic features of British government.

The Great White Fleet anchored in Southampton (see US thread for details) makes a great friendly show of itself as American sailors are given shore leave and mingle with European populations for the first time.
[NS]Parthini
05-10-2006, 13:03
President Roosevelt arrives in London on the first leg of his European Tour on May 2nd 1910. He hopes to spend the next three days touring the city and English countryside after meeting with British officials of note on issues of state. Roosevelt appears especially enthusiastic to visit Parliament and other historic features of British government.

The Great White Fleet anchored in Southampton (see US thread for details) makes a great friendly show of itself as American sailors are given shore leave and mingle with European populations for the first time.

The Royal Navy, upon hearing news of the "Great White Fleet" treading on British Waters and British Pride (as many in the Navy view it) orders a quick sail and gun demonstration for the Americans. All six Dreadnoughts and 8 Battlecruisers, as well as a dozen pre-Dreadnoughts, along with 100 Destroyers make a show, as well as much noise as they can.

In Britain, however, things are much more at ease. Many of the Britons see the arms race as a mere "gentlemen's debate" and actually enjoy the "Yanks." Parliament, as well as PM Asquith, greets President Roosevelt warmly and the whole arms race issue is practically not mentioned. However, First Sea Lord Fisher, stumbles upon Roosevelt, whereupon a short battle of wills ensues as they shake hands and stare at each other. Jackie Fisher then breaks the silence by commenting that Roosevelt's ships "look pretty."
Cylea
05-10-2006, 15:48
Parthini;11766347']The Royal Navy, upon hearing news of the "Great White Fleet" treading on British Waters and British Pride (as many in the Navy view it) orders a quick sail and gun demonstration for the Americans. All six Dreadnoughts and 8 Battlecruisers, as well as a dozen pre-Dreadnoughts, along with 100 Destroyers make a show, as well as much noise as they can.

In Britain, however, things are much more at ease. Many of the Britons see the arms race as a mere "gentlemen's debate" and actually enjoy the "Yanks." Parliament, as well as PM Asquith, greets President Roosevelt warmly and the whole arms race issue is practically not mentioned. However, First Sea Lord Fisher, stumbles upon Roosevelt, whereupon a short battle of wills ensues as they shake hands and stare at each other. Jackie Fisher then breaks the silence by commenting that Roosevelt's ships "look pretty."

OOC: rofl--awesome

IC: Fisher's remark gains a toothy grin, a sharp laugh, and the retort that "well yours sir are quite shiny." However, other than a comment referring to "who can build a bridge of steel across the Atlantic fastest" the arms race is indeed not really mentioned.

In speeches around London, Roosevelt applauds the new era of British and American cooperation. References to the Caribbean (where the two nations are the only great powers left) and the sprawl of the British Empire are plentiful. The President voices the hope that the two great nations can find even more common ground in the near future...
[NS]Parthini
06-10-2006, 01:49
Many in London echo the hopes of Roosevelt of improved Anglo-American relationships, as many see that Roosevelt is actually human, rather than some mythological titan in which the Americans worship. However, the King makes a last visit to Parliament shaking hands with the President on May 5th.

The next day, he passes away.

His son, George V takes his place as the King of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, Emperor of India, and British Dominions beyond the seas. A state funeral is held for Edward VII. Roosevelt is invited to attend and a period of mourning for the King is held.
Malkyer
06-10-2006, 02:45
Parthini;11769403']However, the King makes a last visit to Parliament shaking hands with the President on May 5th.

The next day, he passes away.

Prime Minister Reynaud and President Doumer both send their personal condolences to the Royal Family, and the Prime Minister makes a public statement in front of the National Assembly, honoring the late British King-Emperor and his hopes that George the V will continue to lead the British Empire with honor.
Kilani
06-10-2006, 05:27
An angry telegram arrives in London, asking what the British think they're doing in Persia.
[NS]Parthini
06-10-2006, 05:31
An angry telegram arrives in London, asking what the British think they're doing in Persia.

A response sent informing Russia that what Britain does with its area of influence is a matter solely for the British People to decide. As Russia may notice, Britain has made no objections to Russian actions in China, of which many complaints could be lodged.

Britain informs Russia that any meddling in any British areas of influence will recieve a harsh response from the British Empire.
Kilani
06-10-2006, 05:33
Parthini;11770167']A response sent informing Russia that what Britain does with its area of influence is a matter solely for the British People to decide. As Russia may notice, Britain has made no objections to Russian actions in China, of which many complaints could be lodged.

Britain informs Russia that any meddling in any British areas of influence will recieve a harsh response from the British Empire.

Russia notes that it appears the Britain wishes to restart the great game again. If that is waht they want, then it will be so.
[NS]Parthini
06-10-2006, 05:35
Russia notes that it appears the Britain wishes to restart the great game again. If that is waht they want, then it will be so.

OOC: BTW, we haven't signed the 1907 Accords.
Kilani
06-10-2006, 05:36
Parthini;11770183']OOC: BTW, we haven't signed the 1907 Accords.

OOC: Yes, but Central Asia has been quiet for the past five or six years.

IC: In addition, Russia notes that it has done nothing in China but back the ruling government and exchange supplies and money for territory.
[NS]Parthini
06-10-2006, 05:43
Britain reiterates that Russia should have nothing to fear from the new Republic, since the area in which the Republic exists is solely British Influenced lands, and that Russia is merely being paranoid.

Britain also points out that it would not be wise for Russia to create yet another potential enemy over such a trivial matter.
Kilani
06-10-2006, 05:45
Russia notes that the so-called "Republic" lays claim to lands under Russia's influence and is in fact in a state of rebellion against the rightful ruler, the Shah.
Kilani
06-10-2006, 06:00
OOC: Parthini, get on Chatzy.
Abbassia
06-10-2006, 08:14
Parthini;11769403']Many in London echo the hopes of Roosevelt of improved Anglo-American relationships, as many see that Roosevelt is actually human, rather than some mythological titan in which the Americans worship. However, the King makes a last visit to Parliament shaking hands with the President on May 5th.

The next day, he passes away.

His son, George V takes his place as the King of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, Emperor of India, and British Dominions beyond the seas. A state funeral is held for Edward VII. Roosevelt is invited to attend and a period of mourning for the King is held.

The Bulgarian Royal Family expresses distraught and condolonces for the passing away of the "Wise Uncle of Europe" The King is expected to personally attend the formal proceedings.

On another note, the Bulgarian government asks permission to charter the construction of British Naval Vessels for the use of Bulgaria.
New Dracora
06-10-2006, 08:15
Parthini;11751206']Our allies in Portugal are granted their request, and construction of the first Armored Cruiser will begin.

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The Admiralty informs Admiral Fisher (I take it he's not angry and won't retire this year!) that after reviewing MI6 files on US construction, continuing construction of more DNs and BCs will begin, and that after testing of several Long Range submarines, the Admiralty is happy with their performance and will order another several squadrons this year.

Debates rage in the Admiralty over the issue of Dominion Navies. Many support the idea so that a larger navy can be constructed, while others argue that the dominions will get even more independant with their new navies and might try things such as the Australian Trade deal.

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In Parliament, several Liberals and pro-Dominioners propose a plan that will, according to them, balance out the Dominions' independant thinking. An Imperial Parliament, something which was brought up several decades earlier has begun to show up. Many believe that adding seats to Parliament, or even creating a new Parliament altogether, but including South African, Canadian and Australian MPs will bring the Dominions closer to Britain. Some support is recieved, but anything regarding a bill doesn't surface. However, the idea is placed in the minds of many MPs, especially the younger ones and the idea may surface later.

*A number of Australian MP's (privately) find the concept of Australian's taking part in decision making processes for the entire empire amusing.*

*With the pathway for the RAN now cleared, a very enthusastic order arrives in the hands of the UK's chief shipping company.*

Kind sirs,

Please find enclosed a list of intended purchases from your shipyards.

Regards,

Admiral William Rooke Creswell, Chief Director of the Royal Australian Navy

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1 Battlecruiser (BC) 4 points a year for 3 years (1 ship)
4 Light cruisers (CL) 4 points a year for 2 years (4 ships)
1 Submarine flotilla (SSK) 6 points a year for 1 year (20 submarines)
1 Destroyer flotilla (DD) 6 points a year for 1 year (20 destroyers)
1 Escort flotilla (CE) 4 points a year for 1 year (20 submarine chasers or corvettes)
1 Transport group (represents 85 transport ships or 500,000 tons of shipping) cost is 3 points


ooc: :D
Artitsa
06-10-2006, 08:22
Italy would like to note to the British that should any Portugese nationals attack Italian Forces anywhere in the world, a state of war will exist between the two nations, and Italy will not be held responsible for said war. With recent build up of Portugese in Macau and the lease of a naval vessel to the RoC, we can only be prepared.

We can only hope that Britain would see that Portugal is throwing gasoline onto the embers of an international crisis. This is between the Republic of China and Italy.
Sukiaida
06-10-2006, 15:17
Prime Minister Weyler sends his condolences to the British royal family. Queen Martha requests to attend the funeral, so that the end of the Spanish royal family may at least be physically there.

The government has the Spanish people state a vigil and gives a day off to workers to attend it. Most SPainards remember how King Edward tried to conquer them with a peice of paper, and it's not well held, but they attend with no fuss. THe new intelligence agency being formed makes sure of that, but most don't cause a fuss out of respect for the British people. King Edward may have bene unpopular in Spain, but the British people are extremelly popular for their stand in support of the SPanish people. So out of respect for them, the vigil is kept with serenity.
Cylea
06-10-2006, 17:15
President Roosevelt offers his most sincere condolances for the death of the King. TR delays his departure from Britain to attend the funeral and the American Fleet in Southampton fires a 21 gun salute in the monarch's honor.
Galveston Bay
07-10-2006, 00:19
August 20, 1910 A palace coup occurs in Afghanistan, and King Habibullah Khan is killed and Amanullah Khan takes his place. He orders all British subjects out of Afghanistan and asks Russia for protection.
ooc: Well he doesn't, as he is essentially a captive ruler, but his 'advisors' do so in his name.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanullah_Khan


ooc
Afghanistan being a British client state up to this point
Samtonia
07-10-2006, 00:29
King Haakon VII and the rest of the Norwegian government send their condolences to the British People and Edward's family. To the common Norwegian citizen, the event elicits a tinge of sadness but no heavy regret- they feel that a new foreign king will continue the same policies his nation had already had in place regarding Norway.
[NS]Parthini
07-10-2006, 00:33
In Parliament, PM Asquith speaks strongly against the obviously Russian backed coup in Afghanistan. He criticizes Russia's protection against inhumane despots in Persia and makes claims about Russia's desire to get India next.

Some Liberals in Parliament support actions against Russia and the Shah, while others simply call for retaliation in Afghanistan. Many conservatives, however, are fearful of what war with Russia could mean, as that seems to be the obvious course.
Kordo
07-10-2006, 00:36
The Austro-Hungarian Empire enquires if the British would be willing to loan points to the AHE in the upcoming year (1911). Emperor Franz Joseph also enquires about the possiblity of visiting the UK to improve relations between the two countries.
[NS]Parthini
07-10-2006, 00:48
The Austro-Hungarian Empire enquires if the British would be willing to loan points to the AHE in the upcoming year (1911). Emperor Franz Joseph also enquires about the possiblity of visiting the UK to improve relations between the two countries.

Britain replies that although improved relations are desired, Britain will most likely not have any spare funds available to the Austrians for the near future.
[NS]Parthini
07-10-2006, 01:32
Build: 1910
Home Population: 44 million
Colonial Population: 382 million
Growth (Regular Spending): 3%
Income: 39 Production Centers, 48 Resources, 68 shipping units, 10 ocean liner units

156 Factories + 48 resources + 2.46 food resource points + 71 commerce points+19.7 Canadian points+.5 Australian points+25 South African points=322.66 points

Maintenance: 55.1

Home Social Spending: Level III-14.6
Empire Social Spending: Level I-38.2

Domestic Builds:

7 shipping unit-21

7 points to Ottoman Empire

5 points to KMT

8 points to Southern Persia
(10 additional for Production Center [Bandar Abbas])

3 points for Cape-Cairo (5/12 years)

Intelligence Agency-5 points

1 points for energy

.78 to Unionists in Ireland

Military Builds: 164.41

4 points for DN (0 left) (HMS Vanguard) (year 3/3)
4 points for DN (0 left) (HMS Neptune) (year 3/3)
4 points for DN (0 left) (HMS Colossus) (year 3/3)
4 points for DN (0 left) (HMS Hercules) (year 3/3)

4 points for DN (8 left) (HMS Orion) (year 1/3)
4 points for DN (8 left) (HMS Monarch) (year 1/3)
4 points for DN (8 left) (HMS Conqueror) (year 1/3)
4 points for DN (8 left) (HMS Thunderer) (year 1/3)

4 points for BC (0 left) (HMS Leopard) (year 3/3)
4 points for BC (0 left) (HMS Panther) (year 3/3)
4 points for BC (0 left) (HMS Renown) (year 3/3)
4 points for BC (0 left) (HMS Repulse) (year 3/3)
4 points for BC (0 left) (HMS Resistance) (year 3/3)
4 points for BC (0 left) (HMS Courageous) (year 3/3)
4 points for BC (0 left) (HMS Glorious) (year 3/3)
4 points for BC (0 left) (HMS Furious) (year 3/3)

4 points for BC (4 left) (HMS Hood) (year 2/3)
4 points for BC (4 left) (HMS Howe) (year 2/3)
4 points for BC (4 left) (HMS Rodney) (year 2/3)
4 points for BC (4 left) (HMS Anson) (year 2/3)

4 points for BC (8 left) (HMS Warrior) (year 1/3)
4 points for BC (8 left) (HMS Black Prince) (year 1/3)
4 points for BC (8 left) (HMS Emerald) (year 1/3)
4 points for BC (8 left) (HMS Impregnable) (year 1/3)
4 points for BC (8 left) (HMS Defence) (year 1/3)
4 points for BC (8 left) (HMS Resistance) (year 1/3)
4 points for BC (8 left) (HMS Hector) (year 1/3)
4 points for BC (8 left) (HMS Valiant) (year 1/3)

10 Light Cruisers-20 points (paid) (year 1/2)

6 points for Shanghai Naval Base

12 points for 3 Indian Infantry Corps

Growth: 3%

6.5 factories=6 new production center

Energy:

Have- 10 coal, 1 oil (Persia)
Need-12
Import-1 (American, cost 1)
[NS]Parthini
07-10-2006, 03:01
After the conservatives became angry after increased spending by the Liberal Government, a General Election was held. While the election seemed to be fiercely heated, the Liberals came out on top, and actually gained a few seats.

PM HH Asquith then decided to make his move. At the end of 1910, the Irish Home Bill was presented to Parliament. It called for a Dominion of Ireland to be created including all of Ireland, including Ulster. However, to ensure Protestant Support, the Capital is placed in Belfast, where more Protestants live and thus, will be able to show their views. Additionally, clauses are put in requiring freedom of Religion as well as a Federal Dominion, much like how Canada is, granting more autonomy for each County.
Galveston Bay
07-10-2006, 21:33
Parthini;11773474']After the conservatives became angry after increased spending by the Liberal Government, a General Election was held. While the election seemed to be fiercely heated, the Liberals came out on top, and actually gained a few seats.

PM HH Asquith then decided to make his move. At the end of 1910, the Irish Home Bill was presented to Parliament. It called for a Dominion of Ireland to be created including all of Ireland, including Ulster. However, to ensure Protestant Support, the Capital is placed in Belfast, where more Protestants live and thus, will be able to show their views. Additionally, clauses are put in requiring freedom of Religion as well as a Federal Dominion, much like how Canada is, granting more autonomy for each County.

Both Catholics and Protestants shake their heads in disgust as once again the British get it wrong. Dublin, the traditional seat of the Irish Parliament for generations being replaced by Belfast...impossible.

Otherwise the Catholics and some Protestants are pleased (the Church of England types), while the northern Protestant Presbyterians are not
[NS]Parthini
08-10-2006, 02:15
Both Catholics and Protestants shake their heads in disgust as once again the British get it wrong. Dublin, the traditional seat of the Irish Parliament for generations being replaced by Belfast...impossible.

Otherwise the Catholics and some Protestants are pleased (the Church of England types), while the northern Protestant Presbyterians are not

After several protests are lodged about the moving of the Capital to Belfast, an amendment is swiftly put in creating Dublin as the Capital. Protestants are reminded that with the Federal Dominion, individual counties will have much autonomy so that Dublin will not interefere too much in Ulster.

The bill passes in the House of Commons. However, the House of Lords immediately blocks it causing an uproar. This forces the Liberal Majority to create the Parliament Act, whereupon all legislative bills can be passed without the consent of the House of Lords. The House can merely stall a bill for 12 months. Bills merely have to be put forth to Royal Assent, which the Home Rule Act is and is approved by George V.

The Dominion of Ireland then is formed on January 30th, 1911. The new Dominion will have the same rights as the other dominions (such as the right to create an armed forces and merchant Marine), and as of 1911, conducts its own budgetary affairs.
[NS]Parthini
08-10-2006, 02:32
SIC: Several Envoys approach Tibetian leaders about a new deal. Tibet, the Envoys point out, is at danger now of returning to Chinese occupation since both factions are currently at peace. Both eyes, and the eyes of the Russians may now at this moment be turned to Tibet. Tibet, even in it's majesty, would not be able to protect itself in the event of an invasion. Britain presents Tibet with a formal treaty of Protection for Tibet much like the recently signed treaty with Bhutan. Britain, with the Indian Army, will be able to protect Tibet, only requiring Tibet to let Britain handle its foreign affairs. In exchange, Britain will even agree to help Tibet with social services, and ensure that no hostile forces infiltrate Tibet.
Galveston Bay
08-10-2006, 04:33
Parthini;11776899']SIC: Several Envoys approach Tibetian leaders about a new deal. Tibet, the Envoys point out, is at danger now of returning to Chinese occupation since both factions are currently at peace. Both eyes, and the eyes of the Russians may now at this moment be turned to Tibet. Tibet, even in it's majesty, would not be able to protect itself in the event of an invasion. Britain presents Tibet with a formal treaty of Protection for Tibet much like the recently signed treaty with Bhutan. Britain, with the Indian Army, will be able to protect Tibet, only requiring Tibet to let Britain handle its foreign affairs. In exchange, Britain will even agree to help Tibet with social services, and ensure that no hostile forces infiltrate Tibet.

Imperial China is willing to recognize Tibetan indepdence and its British protection in exchange for British recognition of the Imperial government

ooc
figuring that time is on China's side, and eventually, hopefully, the sun will set on the British Empire
[NS]Parthini
08-10-2006, 04:43
Imperial China is willing to recognize Tibetan indepdence and its British protection in exchange for British recognition of the Imperial government

ooc
figuring that time is on China's side, and eventually, hopefully, the sun will set on the British Empire

The British Empire accepts the offer.

OOC: NEVAR! The Emparh shall last a thousand generations!
Galveston Bay
08-10-2006, 23:57
Problems in India
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1905_Partition_of_Bengal

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabindranath_Tagore

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alipore_bomb_case

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_League

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_independence_movement#Partition_of_Bengal

ooc
An economic boycott is in its 4th year, and finally begins to have an effect. Beginning next year British income from India is reduced by 2 resources. These resources will not come back until further notice.
Middle Snu
09-10-2006, 07:10
Siam offers the following deal to Great Britain:
1. Siam will agree never to infringe upon the bounderies of Burma and Malaysia as they currently stand.
2. Siam gives Britain permission to build a railroad between Malaysia and Burma.
3. Britain gives Siam permission to order what they will from British shipyards.
4. Britain sends some British officers to Siam to train the Siamese navy and army.
5. Siam agrees to come to the British Empire's aid if it ever requests it.

SIC: Siamese diplomats point out that a Siamese navy would be aimed at countering the French threat to "level Bangkok," and the Siam's 500,000-strong army could be useful if Russia ever gets uppity and goes for Afghanistan or India.
Galveston Bay
09-10-2006, 20:42
New Zealand now has 3 resource points (1 to Great Britian, 1 to Australia, and 1 to pay for level 3 social services for its population)
[NS]Parthini
10-10-2006, 02:04
Siam offers the following deal to Great Britain:
1. Siam will agree never to infringe upon the bounderies of Burma and Malaysia as they currently stand.
2. Siam gives Britain permission to build a railroad between Malaysia and Burma.
3. Britain gives Siam permission to order what they will from British shipyards.
4. Britain sends some British officers to Siam to train the Siamese navy and army.
5. Siam agrees to come to the British Empire's aid if it ever requests it.

SIC: Siamese diplomats point out that a Siamese navy would be aimed at countering the French threat to "level Bangkok," and the Siam's 500,000-strong army could be useful if Russia ever gets uppity and goes for Afghanistan or India.

Britain agrees to this treaty and Ratifies it in Parliament.
[NS]Parthini
10-10-2006, 02:04
Build: 1911
Home Population: 44 million
Colonial Population: 382 million
Growth (Regular Spending): 3%
Income: 45 Production Centers, 48 Resources, 68 shipping units, 10 ocean liner units

180 Factories + 47 resources + 2.46 food resource points + 78 commerce points + 23 Canadian Points + 7 South African points + 18.35 =355.81 points

Maintenance: 57.95

Home Social Spending: Level III-14.6
Empire Social Spending: Level I-38.2

Domestic Builds:

7 shipping unit-21

4 points to Ottoman Empire

5 points to KMT

8 points to Southern Persia
(15 additional for Production Center [Bandar Abbas])

3 points for Cape-Cairo (6/12 years)

Intelligence Agency-5 points

3 points for energy

Military Builds: 164.41

4 points for DN (4 left) (HMS Orion) (year 2/3)
4 points for DN (4 left) (HMS Monarch) (year 2/3)
4 points for DN (4 left) (HMS Conqueror) (year 2/3)
4 points for DN (4 left) (HMS Thunderer) (year 2/3)

4 points for DN (8 left) (HMS King George V) (year 1/3)
4 points for DN (8 left) (HMS Centurion) (year 1/3)
4 points for DN (8 left) (HMS Audacious) (year 1/3)
4 points for DN (8 left) (HMS Ajax) (year 1/3)

4 points for BC (0 left) (HMS Hood) (year 3/3)
4 points for BC (0 left) (HMS Howe) (year 3/3)
4 points for BC (0 left) (HMS Rodney) (year 3/3)
4 points for BC (0 left) (HMS Anson) (year 3/3)

4 points for BC (8 left) (HMS Warrior) (year 2/3)
4 points for BC (8 left) (HMS Black Prince) (year 2/3)
4 points for BC (8 left) (HMS Emerald) (year 2/3)
4 points for BC (8 left) (HMS Impregnable) (year 2/3)
4 points for BC (8 left) (HMS Defence) (year 2/3)
4 points for BC (8 left) (HMS Resistance) (year 2/3)
4 points for BC (8 left) (HMS Hector) (year 2/3)
4 points for BC (8 left) (HMS Valiant) (year 2/3)

4 points for BC (8 left) (HMS Achilles) (year 1/3)
4 points for BC (8 left) (HMS Minotaur) (year 1/3)
4 points for BC (8 left) (HMS Northumberland) (year 1/3)
4 points for BC (8 left) (HMS Prince Consort) (year 1/3)
4 points for BC (8 left) (HMS Caledonia) (year 1/3)
4 points for BC (8 left) (HMS Ocean) (year 1/3)
4 points for BC (8 left) (HMS Royal Alfred) (year 1/3)
4 points for BC (8 left) (HMS Research) (year 1/3)

10 Light Cruisers-0 points (paid) (year 2/2)

5 Destroyer Flotillas-30 points

6 points for Cork Naval Base

1 Destroyer Flotilla (Ireland)-6 points

5 Fortress Units (Peshawar, Multan, Sukkur, Hyderabad, Mandalay)-20
1 HQ Unit (India)-6 points

.29 deficit

Growth: 3%

5.9 factories=5 new production center

Energy:

Have- 10 coal, 1 oil (Persia)
Need-14
Import-3 (American, cost 3)
[NS]Parthini
10-10-2006, 02:06
1911 Ireland Build

Population: 4 million
Tech Level: 4
Food Production: 6
Income: 2 Production Centers (2 Belfast), 1 Resource, .4 points for food= 9.4 points

Builds:

Level III Spending-1.4

1 shipping unit-3 points

1 Garrison Unit-2 points

3 Crusiers-3 points (year 1/2)

Growth: 3%-.27


1912 Ireland Build

Population: 4 million
Tech Level: 4
Food Production: 6
Income: 2 Production Centers (2 Belfast), 1 Resource, .4 points for food, 1 shipping unit= 10.4 points

Builds:

Level III Spending-1.4

Maintainence-.7

1 shipping unit-3 points

3 Crusiers-3 points (year 2/2)

2 points to Britain

Growth: 3%-.24 (.51/1)

--------------------------

Islamic Republic of Free Persia

1911

Population: 5 million
Tech Level: 2
Food Production: 5
Income: 1- Resource
Aid: 23- From Britain

Build:

level 1 spending-.5

Maintainence-.5

1 Fortress Division-2 points
1 Cavalry Division-3 points
2 Light Infantry Brigades-2 points

Infrastructure Upgrade-1 point (year 2/2)

24/24-Production Center-15 points



1912

Population: 5 million
Tech Level: 3
Food Production: 5
Income: 4 Production center (Bandar Abbas)
Aid: 2- From Britain

Build:

level 2 spending-1

Maintainence-1.95
1 Inf Corp .5
2 Reserve Inf Corp .5
1 Cav Div .25
1 Fort Div .5
2 Light Inf Brig .2

Build-1 shipping unit-3 points

Growth 3%: .06 Factories (.06/1)

-------------

1911

Production Centres: 4
- Toronto (8)
- Quebec (4)
- Halifax (4)

Reasources: 34
- Regina (11)
- Montreal (6)
- Vancouver(6)
- Winnipeg (6)
- Ontario (1)
- Surplus Foodstuffs (4)

Commerce: 4

Total: 54

Expenditures:

Program Expenses:
- Defense (1.2)
2 Destroyer
1 Garrison
1 Militia

2 naval bases-(Halifax, St. Johns
- Social Services (1.8)

Builds:
- 1 Battlecrusier-4 (year 2/3)
- 3 Crusiers-3 (year 2/2)
- 3 Crusiers-3 (year 1/2)
- 3 Destroyer Flotillas-18

Grants & Contributions:
- Military Assistance to the United Kingdom (23)

Growth 3%: 1.51


1912

Production Centres: 5
- Toronto (4)
- Quebec (2)
- Halifax (2)
- Vancouver (2)

Reasources: 34
- Regina (11)
- Montreal (6)
- Vancouver(5)
- Winnipeg (6)
- Ontario (1)
- Surplus Foodstuffs (4)

Commerce: 4

Total: 48

Expenditures:

Program Expenses:
- Defense (2.15)
5 Destroyer
2 LC
1 Garrison
1 Militia

2 naval bases-(Halifax, St. Johns
- Social Services (1.8)

Builds:
- 1 Battlecrusier-4 (year 3/3)
- 3 Crusiers-3 (year 2/2)
- 3 Destroyer Flotillas-18

Grants & Contributions:
- Military Assistance to the United Kingdom 19.05)

Growth 5%: 2.8

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1911 South Africa
Population: 5 million
Tech Level: 3

16 resources+.5 food+2 commerce+8 industry=26.5 points

Build:

Level III Spending-1.5 points

3 LC-6 points (paid) year 1/2
2 Destroyers-12 points

7 points to Britain

Growth: .7 factories
Philanchez
10-10-2006, 02:15
The Republic of Chile requests that we be allowed to use British Shipyards to build two new Battle Cruisers.
[NS]Parthini
10-10-2006, 02:21
The Republic of Chile requests that we be allowed to use British Shipyards to build two new Battle Cruisers.

Britain approves the purchase, on the request that Chile sign a treaty of Friendship with Britain. (Meaning you promise not to use those to screw me over later)
Philanchez
10-10-2006, 02:40
This is acceptable. We will sign such a treaty.
[NS]Parthini
10-10-2006, 03:00
Problems in India
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1905_Partition_of_Bengal

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabindranath_Tagore

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alipore_bomb_case

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_League

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_independence_movement#Partition_of_Bengal

ooc
An economic boycott is in its 4th year, and finally begins to have an effect. Beginning next year British income from India is reduced by 2 resources. These resources will not come back until further notice.

In response to the riots, an Indian Army Corps unit is moved to Bengal, and put on garrison duty. Meanwhile, the HMS Anson puts anchor in the nearest port. However, at the same time, the local judge is recalled to Britain, and replaced with a more gentle man.
Galveston Bay
10-10-2006, 03:29
The Canadian Parliament approves most of the budget, except for the 1.2 points a year it reallocates (1911, 12 and 13) for infrastructure improvement. It also reallocates money for an escort group for each coast (2 more points) as the nucleus of the Canadian Navy (1911 only).

ooc
this will get Canada up to tech level 5 by 1913

IC
Ireland approves its budget (reaches tech level 4.5 1911 by the way).

South Africa is now tech level 4 as as 1911
[NS]Parthini
10-10-2006, 03:43
Following the riots in Bengal, many Parliamentarians, especially the more humanitarian-minded Liberals begin discussing political reforms for the Raj. Many explain that the years of brute force have done little for India or its people, and, even if neither of those is an issue to some, is now having an effect on its economy.

Many support small self-government at the local level for Indian cities, which is fiercely debated by many Conservatives. However, many in the Liberal Party come up with a plan providing Self-Government for a select number of cities (Bombay and Calcutta) at the local level, much like in Shanghai. A local town council is appointed by all male Indians who can prove their residency in those cities and a 300 man body is appointed. To supplement those, 30 British representatives are put on the board, and all city ordinances must be put to approval by the Governor-General of India, as well as the Mayor of the town, still selected by the Crown.

The bill is put forth to Parliament for approval.
Galveston Bay
10-10-2006, 03:54
ooc
India bill will take a while to decide... months
Sukiaida
10-10-2006, 18:37
Britain is asked if it would like to purchase specifically Spanish food stuffs. It could get a deal if it were to purchase from our SPanish farms.

(Meaning can I use one of my Merchant Marine Shipping Units with Great Britain?)
[NS]Parthini
11-10-2006, 03:15
Britain is asked if it would like to purchase specifically Spanish food stuffs. It could get a deal if it were to purchase from our SPanish farms.

(Meaning can I use one of my Merchant Marine Shipping Units with Great Britain?)

Sure... (except I don't need food imports. I get plenty from the Empire.
Sukiaida
11-10-2006, 18:14
(Ahhh, but this has two possibilities. Number 1: In time of war Great Britain's Empire can't help it as easily as SPain. IN fact a large amount of who supplied Great Britain during the first world war was Spanish food. Because it was easier to get through the channel than in the open sea. Number 2: THis allows me to get better relations for my next offer)

Currently you might have heard of the Alliance between France and Spain. Italy currently is being asked, and Spain is spending it's total energy to making sure friendly Portugal is not forced into unneccesary bickering with Italy. After all, there are enemies much larger on the horizon. The COntinent itself is unbalanced, and we need to return it to balance. Therefore, Spain is trying to reenstate the Entente, with the new Treaty of Seville. (Which you can read in the French Thread.)
[NS]Parthini
12-10-2006, 08:12
Britain feels that entangling alliances such as the one proposed, as well as the Alliance between Germany and Austria, are actually creating an unstable Europe and Britain feels that its "splendid Isolationism" is more proper, as maintaining an Empire takes up too much of our affairs.

Britain, however, is not against improving relations with our European Bretheren.
Sukiaida
13-10-2006, 17:14
(Ergo the difference of opinion Britain had from mainland Europe.)

How about an outlet? Spain would have no problem with a pact that decides the Meditterranian, and we once again request a pact that would allow Gibraltor and a To be built Spanish fortress to watch the entrance, in what the Suez watches the exit.

Also SPain would like to inform the British soldiers on the Canaries that a bad shipment of olive oil has been found in the Spanish side, and to be careful and check the imported foods they buy from locals from the other islands. (THis is basically regular corespondence that countries banter between eachother. Also the locals would find a way to trade SPanish goods to the British sailors and soldiers on the Canaries.)

Also, a notification. Due to the war brewing in the East. A division of soldiers will be moved to the Canaries to protect the naval base there. This is information so your naval personell know what the transports are doing near them.
Cylea
14-10-2006, 15:42
With the outbreak of war in Europe, the Roosevelt Administration sends Secretary of the Navy Truman H. Newberry to London for discussions concerning areas of mutual interest between the two nations--most specifically, the Oceans...
Rodenka
14-10-2006, 20:24
Rumania approaches Britain, asking for a loan either this year or the next.
[NS]Parthini
14-10-2006, 20:52
With the outbreak of war in Europe, the Roosevelt Administration sends Secretary of the Navy Truman H. Newberry to London for discussions concerning areas of mutual interest between the two nations--most specifically, the Oceans...

After much discussion, Secretary Newberry and newly appointed First Sea Lord Louis Mountbatten (a year early but, hey) come to a decision. With Sir Edward Grey in attendance, the three men agree to issue a joint statement:

Let it be known

That the United Kingdom of Great Britain and the United States of America hereby declare the rights of all persons to conduct righteous and peaceful trade upon the World's Oceans without the disturbance of belligerent nations.

The Royal Navy and her constiuents (RAN, RCN, RIN, RSAN) and the United States Navy hereby swear to uphold these God given rights by any means necissary.

------------------------

Many in the Admiralty hope that this is a turning point in the relationship between the RN and USN. Many in the Admiralty, including old Jackie Fisher think that the rivalry between the US and UK is petty, and that it is the duty of the Anglic Race to defend the Seas of the world. However, none think that this is the time to halt or even slow the Naval expansion but go so far as to think that Naval expansion should increase.

The Statement is sent to Parliament where it is immediately approved by both Houses and the King.

Britain also states that it will uphold its duty to protect neutral nations on the continent, especially the Lowlands.
Sukiaida
14-10-2006, 21:22
Spain offers the use of it's southern ports for both navies, in relation to the neutral shipping.

(And the other stuff)
[NS]Parthini
16-10-2006, 02:42
In June, 4 Ghurka Brigades quietly form up in Delhi and parade for the Governor-General. The Ghurkas are lauded with confetti and kisses from Indian women as they pass. British officials salute them as they pass, proud to be near the most elite fighting force in the world. That night, the 4 Brigades march Northwest out of town. Only a handful of people know where they are headed.

Several weeks later, news from Kabul arrives. Amanullah Khan had been arrested that night for treason against the Crown. The four Ghurka Brigades had met with the King's cousin Mohammed Nadir Shah and surrounded the city. They then declared that unless Amanullah Khan was brought to them, the city would be taken by storm. Fearing the wrath of a sizeable Ghurka force, the local garrison swiftly surrendered and Amanullah Khan was brought out. He and his son were immediately put under arrest, and Nadir Shah was made King after confirming Protectorate status of Afghanistan.

After a brief trial, Amanullah Khan and his son were convicted of high treason and hung. Three of the four Ghurka Brigades returned to India with the head of Amanullah Khan and brought it to the Governor-General, as he wished. The remaining Ghurka Brigade remained to act as "bodyguards," complimented by a staff of British, Indian and South Persian advisors.

OOC: Approved by GB.
New Dornalia
16-10-2006, 03:45
SIC:
The Republic of China asks for British help in possibly improving its military to modern standards.

We have been forced to turn down our other foreign sources, primarily those from the German Empire, and we had heard of and remember your Army's success abroad. So we believe you may be a good solution to our problem.
Sukiaida
17-10-2006, 18:28
Spain requests if Spain may use 3 Destroyer Flottillas of the older model. (Tech 4.5) While unable to pay this year. We can easily pay their full price next year. (1912) And 12 points will be allocated to Britain. We need the destroyers now for use in the Meditterranian.
[NS]Parthini
18-10-2006, 14:45
Following the declaration of war by the Ottoman Empire on Russia, a fierce debate rages in Parliament.

Many feel that Germany's victories, while successfully crushing the bothersome Russian Empire, have perhaps made Germany too powerful on the continent. They condemn Germany's expansionist, autocratic government for instigating the war, and claim that with closer relations to the Ottomans, gained by their mutual struggle, that Germany may be in a position to dominate the European Continent and more, soon.

Others feel that in no way has Germany directed any of its agression towards anything British or British allied, and has in fact remained static on its western Front, posing no threat to France, at the time, and also remind Parliament of the Anglo-German Accords. They also point out that Russia is just as, if not more autocratic and oppressive, and that two autocracies pounding away at each other will simply end up benefitting the British Empire. They also point out that while Germany has set up a perfectly legal blockade in Russian waters, Russia has violated Freedom of the Seas with her unwarrented attacks on civilian shipping in the Baltic.

However, the most concern is placed on the Ottoman Empire. Its pracically unwarranted war with Russia has caused many to wonder what the Turk is up to. Many feel that with such a close proximity to Suez and Persia, the Ottomans pose a threat to the British Empire.Others argue that the Ottomans are simply "bandwagoning" and attempting to gain some benefits of their own against Russia.

On the other hand, all are concerned with the breaking of a non-Aggression treaty, and wonder about similar plans for Egypt, and the soon-to-be-begun Cairo-India Railroad. The more "optimistic" MPs say that the Ottoman Empire would never think of betraying London and that the Russians had it coming.

However, an agreement is reached by Parliament to issue a statement condemning the Ottoman Empire for breaking its agreement AND a statement condemning the violation of Freedom of the Seas by Russia. Also, funding is allocated to raise an Egyptian Infantry Corps and to fund a fledgling Air Corps.

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In the Admiralty, many rethink Fisher's Battlecrusiers. After seeing the beating the Russian BCs took in the Baltic by a smaller number of Dreadnoughts, many push for creation of slower DNs for the Mediterranean. They feel that DNs provide more bang for their buck, and First Sea Lord Battenburg agrees.
[NS]Parthini
18-10-2006, 14:46
Spain requests if Spain may use 3 Destroyer Flottillas of the older model. (Tech 4.5) While unable to pay this year. We can easily pay their full price next year. (1912) And 12 points will be allocated to Britain. We need the destroyers now for use in the Meditterranian.

Britain points out that while she understands Spain's plight, Britain assure Spain that its shipping will be protected in the Mediterranean by British convoys, who are on regular patrols.
Whittlesfield
18-10-2006, 14:51
The Greek Ambassador in London passes on a message from his Government, which details Greek concerns regarding the Ottoman Empire. The Greek Government is strongly pro-British, and seeks help in assuring Greece's independance, as a Non-Aggression Pact with the Ottoman Empire seems to mean nothing nowadays. Aid is requested to allow the Hellenic Army to rebuild itself, to counter any possible Ottoman invasion.
Sukiaida
18-10-2006, 15:16
(By the way, I looked at the map. Gibraltor already has a fortress across from it. Ceutra. The British and SPanish already protect the entrance to the Mediterranian. Stupid I didn't notice that before.)

Spain hopes British shipping continues, and also wonders if more coal can be transferred with British ships. Palma on the Baleric islands is swamped with ships of the US and UK fleets, and Spain unfortunitly can't keep up with the coal shipments to that islands when we import our coal from the US.

(Honestly the island chain was offered, and the navies would use it since it was offered. And SPain is very dependent on imported coal. So just a note.)
Cylea
18-10-2006, 15:18
(By the way, I looked at the map. Gibraltor already has a fortress across from it. Ceutra. The British and SPanish already protect the entrance to the Mediterranian. Stupid I didn't notice that before.)

Spain hopes British shipping continues, and also wonders if more coal can be transferred with British ships. Palma on the Baleric islands is swamped with ships of the US and UK fleets, and Spain unfortunitly can't keep up with the coal shipments to that islands when we import our coal from the US.

(Honestly the island chain was offered, and the navies would use it since it was offered. And SPain is very dependent on imported coal. So just a note.)

The good(?) news is that with the Ottomans entering the war and closing the Dardennelles, the Meditteranean route that includes the Balearics will rapidly become less popular.
Sukiaida
18-10-2006, 15:52
(Ahem. THat's bad. I've been doing business with naval men and shipping men. That means lots of business for SPain with the UK and US. It also means less food and military goods selling for the US. For those of us making a business in the Mediterranian, this is very bad.)
[NS]Parthini
19-10-2006, 00:36
The Greek Ambassador in London passes on a message from his Government, which details Greek concerns regarding the Ottoman Empire. The Greek Government is strongly pro-British, and seeks help in assuring Greece's independance, as a Non-Aggression Pact with the Ottoman Empire seems to mean nothing nowadays. Aid is requested to allow the Hellenic Army to rebuild itself, to counter any possible Ottoman invasion.

Greece is assured that its independance will be continued to be guarenteed by the British Empire, the same as the independance of Belgium and the Netherlands are.

Britain assures Greece that as long as it remains neutral, Britain will support it and use all its powers to restrain the Turks from attacking Greece (besides, they're probably more distracted).

Britain also points out that several level 4.5 BB1s are available for sale to Greece for 1.5 points a piece, as are several destroyers (also 4.5).
Ato-Sara
23-10-2006, 22:26
The Marinha Portuguesa once again contacts the British admiralty, thanking them for hlping Portugal uild up it's navy by constructing modern warships for her. The recently constructed Armoured Cruiser has been well appraised by the Marinha Portuguesa, and it is hoped that he two other armoured cruisers ordered will be of such good quality.
Another order of one battlecruiser in 1912 and another battlecruiser in 1913 is placed
[NS]Parthini
23-10-2006, 23:53
Upon hearing news of the effects of the Indian boycott and the anger over Bengal, King George V makes a visit to India to hopefully repair feelings. He travels to Delhi and Calcutta where he announces that a new Capital, called New Delhi will be constructed outside of Delhi. He also announces that the Bengal division will be reversed and Bengal will be reunited.