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E20 KMT Thread

New Dornalia
28-08-2006, 01:48
OOC: Credit goes to Planet CnC for the template, Wikipedia for some of the data.

As for this, the United League becomes the KMT. So do not fear. More to come...

IC:

Chinese United League, aka Tongmenhui, Revolutionary Alliance

Known Facts About the Tongmenhui

Ratified: Founded in 1905 in Tokyo by Sun Yat-Sen and Song Jiaoren, it was created through the merger of Sun's Xingzhonghui, or Revive China Society, the Guangfuhui, or Restoration Society, and other Chinese revolutionary groups.

Ideology: Stated goal is "to overthrow the Manchu barbarians, to restore China to the Chinese, to establish a republic, and to distribute land equally." Seeks to reform China and free it from from foreign dominance by creating a democratic republic with Progressive goals.

Current Leader: Formerly under the command of Sun Yat-Sen, a generally well respected man who coordinates funding and ideological matters within the UL who dissapeared in Russia, it is now under the leadership of Chaing Kai-Shek, who governs with Song Jiaoren as deputy.

Base of Operations: Globalized, with branches in Singapore and Japan and USA. Tokyo is the main HQ. Sun had been seen soliciting aid abroad, and there may or may not be sympathizers (OOC: Wiki did mention a conference in China that formed the nucleus of UL's base in Hubei).

Military Strength:

While it has a significant ideological base in Singapore and Japan, it has no real army to speak of. However, it has agents in the Guangxi and Beiyang Armies, and given recent events, now commands strength in South China.

Economic Strength:

Relies on donations from Overseas Chinese, especially from Singapore, as well as foreign donations, also joined now with more strength from South China.

Political Strength:

A powerful group, composed of many Chinese groups, it holds considerable sway, though less so among US Chinese (OOC: They haven't gotten there yet, but even then, the US Chinese are divided.). However, it has agents in the Guangxi and Beiyang Armies, and given recent events, now commands strength in South China.
New Dornalia
28-08-2006, 02:22
Saved for economics
New Dornalia
28-08-2006, 02:29
1906

Sun Yat-Sen, already in exile, begins going abroad to try and raise support for his party's platform. He travels to Chinese and non-Chinese in the USA, Europe, and Canada in an attempt to spread his message and perhaps raise some more funds and supporters.
New Dornalia
01-09-2006, 03:53
1906

Tongmenhui officials, meanwhile, call a meeting in Tokyo to discuss plans for the future in China. Part of the plan, in particular, calls for recruitment in China and the organization of cells there, plus moves to infiltrate the military and try and place men sympathetic to the movement in it, covertly.
New Dornalia
02-09-2006, 20:14
Also, Sun Yat-Sen formalizes his world tour plans. He will first visit Chinese communities in the US and Canada, stopping to talk in New York, Toronto, then Vancouver before returning to Tokyo. This will be done in Summer of 1906.
New Dornalia
07-09-2006, 21:30
Before he makes his travels abroad, Sun sends letters to the China Inland Mission's leader, Dixon Edward Hoste, asking for support and aid for the Tongmenhui. He emphasizes that the Tongmenhui's mission to reform China does not discriminate based on religion, and that as a fellow Christian, Sun would assuredly allow the missionaries of the CIM to continue their work after any potential revolution. He also emphasizes the similarities of the Tongmenhui's mission to make a self-strengthened, self supporting Democratic China with the welfare of the Chinese people in mind with that of Hoste's goal to make a self-supporting Chinese church focused as part of its goals, on the people's welfare as well.
New Dornalia
08-09-2006, 21:23
As Sun travels, Tongmenhui leaders begin carrying out their plans to send men into China, sending men who can be snuck in into China to begin organizing cells, with the aid of the Japanese...
Kilani
12-09-2006, 05:32
Yat Sen is invited by the Saint Petersburg State University to speak on China and is offered quarters, all expenses paid.
New Dornalia
12-09-2006, 05:40
Yat Sen is invited by the Saint Petersburg State University to speak on China and is offered quarters, all expenses paid.

OOC: Sounds like I'm getting popular. :)

IC:

Sun Yat Sen, surprised at the sudden offer, takes some time from his busy tour schedule to take the train to St. Petersburg after his Istanbul trip.
Lesser Ribena
12-09-2006, 16:35
Sun Yat Sen endures a 1500 mile train journey to Saint Petersberg, arriving there at early afternoon he is a little surprised to find a large delegation from the university waiting for him on the platform. He is taken by car to a very comfortable hotel, there are few other guests which he is surprised at as the hotel is the most expensive in town and famous for usually being full of Russian bourgeoisie. He settles down in his room to finalise his speech for tomorrow's scheduled meeting at the State University. The few other guests and hotel staff are not concerned by the fact that he does not come down for dinner and presume that he is still writing his speech and settling in for a quiet night in.

His absence is not noted until the next morning when his misses his wake up call from hotel staff and they open the door to an empty room. The local police are immediately telephoned and a police unit is on the scene in minutes organising a city wide search for him and performing a close examination of the hotel. At a press conference later in the day the few bored journalists are repeatedly informed that the police are doing everything they can to track down Sun Yat Sen and that the Tsarist Okhranka (intelligence agency) are working on the case. Within a month the official report is written up stating his disappearence as "unexplained", he is officially presumed missing and the case is closed. No evidence of any kind concerning his disappearence has been disclosed in the report.
Galveston Bay
12-09-2006, 16:57
ooc
the disappearance (assume death) of Sun Yatsen is going to effectively derail the KMT movement. Without him, the 1911 Revolution is going to happen differently (although China will disintegrate, just the way it happens will change). Chang Ke Shek will appear on the scene differently as well.

In game terms, I am going to give New Dornalia a Chinese provience of his choice (see Imperial China thread which will be created soon), or he can take over the Chinese Communists or Chang Ke Shek when the time comes.

Incidently, I want a good IC reason from Kilani TG to me on why this action occured.
New Dornalia
12-09-2006, 17:03
OOC: Fuck. Curse you physics homework!

SIC:

Song Jiaoren and company deduce this is no mere missing persons case; as he takes over as Acting President of the Tongmenhui Song pushes for harder moves to take down the Qing Government, saying "It's what Sun would've wanted."

In particular, he uses the funds donated from the China Inland Mission and sympathetic contacts within said mission to organize the US branch of the Tongmenhui and to begin organizing resistance against the Qing respectively--though he urges the missionaries to be covert in their movements in that regard.
New Dornalia
12-09-2006, 17:04
Incidently, I want a good IC reason from Kilani TG to me on why this action occured.

OOC: Yes. Otherwise, I will ask him to retcon it....
Kilani
12-09-2006, 17:10
OOC: You have a telegram GB.
New Dornalia
12-09-2006, 17:16
OOC: You have a telegram GB.

OOC: Chatzy. NOW!
Kilani
12-09-2006, 19:29
OOC: At school, no access to Chatzy. TG me.

IC: About a month and a half after his dissepearance, a body is fished out of the river. After extensive investigation it is confirmed as Sun Yat Sen's. He has been shot at close range. The Russian government, apparently furious that a guest of it's nation has been murdered, reopens the case and launches a new investigation, making heavy use of the Secret Police.
Ato-Sara
12-09-2006, 19:35
OOC: At school, no access to Chatzy. TG me.

IC: About a month and a half after his dissepearance, a body is fished out of the river. After extensive investigation it is confirmed as Sun Yat Sen's. He has been shot at close range. The Russian government, apparently furious that a guest of it's nation has been murdered, reopens the case and launches a new investigation, making heavy use of the Secret Police.

OOC: lol yet another chance to get rid of some political dissidents.
Amestria
12-09-2006, 20:36
ooc

Incidently, I want a good IC reason from Kilani TG to me on why this action occured.

Here are the Russian motivations from my perspective. Sun just crossed the globe speaking of a need (and his intent) to bring about a strong democratic China capable or resisting Imperialism... Clearly a threat to whatever interests in the Far East Russia has (the same with it's ally France, the French IC also had it in for him after that secret meeting between them and Sun where Sun refused to agree to their demands...in private the French are thrilled by Russia's secret action) .

I would also point out that Suns little world tour focused a great deal of attention on him where before he was an obscure Chinese Revolutionary/exile no one really noticed... He spoke throughout America and Europe, met with Heads of State (TR among them!), even visited and met with a top official of the Ottoman Empire and made deals with the Zionists. Everyone, including those who did not like what they heard, noticed him. In other words Sun was just too successful, revolutionaries who survive tend to have a greater instinct for subtly.

As you accurately stated...

the disappearance (assume death) of Sun Yatsen is going to effectively derail the KMT movement.

Many in the Russian Foreign and Secret Service would have realized that and they thus decided to strangle the KMT in the cradle before it became a substantial threat to Russian Imperial interests.

Keep in mind Russia did not go out of its way to eliminate him, they just set up a trap and Sun happened to walk right into it.
Galveston Bay
12-09-2006, 20:47
Imperial China

KMT will struggle on for a while but other agendas will come forward as well
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11672409&posted=1#post11672409

ooc
Kilani and I discussed the issue and I am satisfied with the IC rationale

although I think OOC wise a major blunder was made, but I guess we will see how it plays out later in the century (chuckle).

New Dornalia may take over as one of the three men indicated as being of interest, or possibly other future warlords. His decision on this
New Dornalia
13-09-2006, 03:40
SIC:

As Song Jiaoren takes command of the movement, Wang Jingwei begins to move quietly to begin to consolidate his power, using his old connections to Sun to try and get people to join him.

However, he is opposed by a new man, Chaing Kai Shek, who is studying at the Military State Academy in Japan and opposes Wang's version of Sun's ideals, saying his leftist ideology will lead to recklessness and more death. His military background and his membership in the Hongmen (along with Sun)is of particular note, and attracts those who prefer a more conservative interpretation of Sun's vision.

The two thus vie for the command of the Tongmenhui. However, Chaing's connections and ideological consistency win the day, and thus, he is made permanent head of the Tongmenhui....however, he does appoint Song Jiaoren as a deputy. Wang, however, will continue to make trouble for some time....
New Dornalia
13-09-2006, 04:32
KMT Builds-

1 pt from foreign donations.
Spy network (free)
All actions are SIC

1906-

1pt-Spent on subverting Guangxi Army

1907-

Got 1pt boost from Missionaries, and free spy network. Got 2pts of aid from Japan.

Spent 1pt on organizing US Tongmenhui branch

3pts on subverting Beiyang Army
New Dornalia
13-09-2006, 04:36
SIC:

Chaing's first action is to ask his missionary connections to survey China, and figure out its weakest points. Again, he urges them to act cautiously, and quietly (and many do so, knowing full well the consequences).
Kilani
13-09-2006, 17:40
In the case of Sun Yet Sen the government announces that after several weeks of extensive investigation and following new leads, that the case ahs been blown wide open. The perpetrators of the deed were none other then insidious agents of the Imperial Chinese court. Several Chinese, allegedly the perpetrators and spies, are paraded through St. Petersburg and then publicly executed as spies and murderers.

The Russian Duma, in concert with the Tsar, demands that the Chinese government pay reperations and immediately hand over those higher ups in the Chinese court responsible for this horrible transaction of justice and violation of Russia's soverignty.

The Far Eastern Military District begins mobilization and an HQ is transferred from Warsaw.
Elephantum
13-09-2006, 19:56
David Wolffsohn issues a statement on the death of Yat-Sen, issuing his condolences. At the advice of other leaders, he is always kept under guard. However, as they have to deal with the laws of many countries in their travels, they are rarely armed.
New Dornalia
22-09-2006, 19:20
OOC: Given events....

SIC:

Chaing Kai Shek takes the opportunity to begin the long-awaited revolution that Sun Yat-Sen has been planning. He orders KMT cells in Fujian, Guangdong, Shandong, Zhejiang and other areas the KMT has invested itself in or has sympathy to take control and begin "the struggle to take back the nation from the Manchu barbarians, and fulfill Brother Sun's dream of a strong China." Chaing also has his Hongmen connections begin providing aid to the people in areas named in the name of the United League, and has his missionary connections try to persuade people to support the United League, to try and secure support.

Open IC:

Several mutineers in Hebei Province linked with an element of the KMT led by Huang Xing (a former associate of Sun's now working reluctantly with Chaing in this universe), inspired by the opportunity granted by the sudden "gift from Heaven" as it is dubbed by revolutionaries everywhere and by Huang's idea of staging a revolt in Central China, launch theWuchang Uprising early--catching even Chaing off guard. He then quietly vows to have Huang watched more closely, even as the revolutionaries try to sieze the province from the governor.

Another mutiny takes place in Guangdong as well, starting before the Wuchang Uprising. It involves KMT Rebels trying to kidnap the Qing governor in Guangzhou. (OOC: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huanghuagang_Uprising)

Both revolts are staged by the KMT, even as Chaing sails to Fuzhou, and proclaims the creation of the Republic of China, calling for a "Government of National Unity to bring order to China and make it strong again."

EDIT: Assume the above includes Guangxi province and whereever the Beiyang Army is based.
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