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Hi I have just founded The People's Republic of Nutty Carrot Cakes. However I was hoping to have less crime. This is a problem, and as this is a new state with no established police force, I ask that we may receive some international policing support. In return, we could discuss mutually beneficial economic links.

Yours hopefully,

BJ, President of The People's Republic of Nutty Carrot Cakes

Though we have commited to several important operations and so at
this time cannot lend police support, The Holy Confederacy of New Aeson
would like to make an offer. Become an Aesonic protectorate, and we
guarantee to all but eliminate crime in Nutty Carrot Cakes.

welcame

how do i become an Aesonic protectorate

how do i become an Aesonic protectorate

It is a fairly simple process. You simply need sign a treaty, agreeing
to allow New Aeson to draw upon your populace and resources for our army
in time of need. In return, New Aeson will protect and provide law enforcement, economic aid, and military protection.

please can you give me further details of this treaty

please can you give me further details of this treaty


What that means he wants to make you one of his puppets it was done in the age of Imperialism. Basicly you will be a Colony. I think you should not accept he will exploit your resorces that you should use to build your own military and econemy. Insted I would advise joining the CA we are a allience. We will not suck your resorces dry and you get protection. However in exchange you help protect the CA even though we often are the Aggressors.

i am disgusted at The Aeson for trying to con me into this. all i wanted was help in cutting crime. i did not want to be made a puppet state.

i am disgusted at The Aeson for trying to con me into this. all i wanted was help in cutting crime. i did not want to be made a puppet state.


To cut down crime you have to raise taxes and give them to law enforcement. When those issues come up that involve the police give them what they ask force and crime will go down.

yeah. Also, I could always help you. maybe we can do some RPs together. I am currently doing one and you are invited if you wanna join.

I would like to begin trade and set up embassies in your captial city.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=497385

i am disgusted at The Aeson for trying to con me into this. all i wanted was help in cutting crime. i did not want to be made a puppet state.

I have several points to make here. First, everything I have told you
is true. I will commit law enforcement personnel, and my nation is, as a quick
glance at my nation's info (http://www.nationstates.net/the_aeson) will show, quite effective at cutting down crime.

Second, with the exception of allowing free trade and supporting my nation in
war, your sovreignity will remain intact. So you will not be a puppet state.

Finally, I suggest you do some research on the Corporate Alliance. Their
founder, the Griffencrest Corporation (based in the nation of the Blackhelm
Confederacy) has a history of invading young, small, nations in attempts to
steal their natural resources, most specifically oil.

many thanks to Sochatopia and Edoniakistanbabweagua.

Edoniakistanbabweagua: i dont want to get involved in a large alliance, however I would like to talk about a deal involving economic, miltary and perhaps political agreements. what do you think?

sure

as for RP, it is actually a character mythology RP

The holy church of Gaurdiani di anima wishes to give you the opertunity to host a branch of our religeon, free of charge. Upon agreeing we will send several highly specialized engineers to help with constructing your main temple. We will also send some of our Holy militia, aproxamitly 500 men. which will help in daily police activities and protect the temples while they are starting up. These men will stay in your nation fulfilling police functions to make sure the full message of Anima is spread.

I have several points to make here. First, everything I have told you
is true. I will commit law enforcement personnel, and my nation is, as a quick
glance at my nation's info (http://www.nationstates.net/the_aeson) will show, quite effective at cutting down crime.

Second, with the exception of allowing free trade and supporting my nation in
war, your sovreignity will remain intact. So you will not be a puppet state.

Finally, I suggest you do some research on the Corporate Alliance. Their
founder, the Griffencrest Corporation (based in the nation of the Blackhelm
Confederacy) has a history of invading young, small, nations in attempts to
steal their natural resources, most specifically oil.


Even thought it is all true he will still suck your resorces dry witch will more than make up for military and police presonal that he will add to your nation its a bad idia.

2nd points true the CA will try to steel resorces however if you cant beat them join them they cant attack you if your a member.

Even thought it is all true he will still suck your resorces dry witch will more than make up for military and police presonal that he will add to your nation its a bad idia.

2nd points true the CA will try to steel resorces however if you cant beat them join them they cant attack you if your a member.

First point, no, I won't.

Second point, how many sucessful operations has the CA actually launched? Ever?

my government has no involvement in religion

In fact, as a gesture of goodwill, I'll even include an immediate voidment clause in the treaty. Essentially, if at any point you feel you're losing more than gaining out of being a protectorate, simply say so, and I'll withdraw all forces. Any money or materials I've given you, however, is yours to keep.

well then why don't you allow us to establish our religeon. we promise crime will go down when your youth have some structure to thier lives. and you get free police.

First point, no, I won't.

Second point, how many sucessful operations has the CA actually launched? Ever?


Sure you wont.

Their have been a hand full ask blackhelm for more info. Hes been in alot more wars than I have.

i'm sorry but i have to decline your offer. the government will not deal with any religious groups, as we live in a multicultural society and it is not fair to bias

In fact, as a gesture of goodwill, I'll even include an immediate voidment clause in the treaty. Essentially, if at any point you feel you're losing more than gaining out of being a protectorate, simply say so, and I'll withdraw all forces. Any money or materials I've given you, however, is yours to keep.

Ok think about you say alright the protectorate gos on for 4 years you want to call it off. You say Aeson the deals off he is a huge nation and he already has troops on your soil what are you going to do about it if he says no? Nothing if you do he will have troops at your capitol in a matter of hours. If you do it your at his mercy with only his word. people lie and Im not saying Aeson will but I wouldnt take a chance.

im not going to take that chance.

im not going to take that chance.

OOC: I wouldn't say I'm huge, really. Not as NS goes.

IC: Very well. It is your choice, and though we feel you have made a
mistake, we will accept it. To show that there is no ill will, we are
transmitting two trillion USD to aid you in improving your law enforcement.

thank you very much.

with this money, we will be able to fund a police force. as crime decreases, there should be more space available in prisons. we would be willing to rent out this space should you want to export criminals.

we respect your wishes, if you allow us we would like to set up an embasy in your capitol city. As you will be allowed to place one in ours.

OOC: Post your reply in our factbook, its in our sig.

so how do i do that?

Just go to my factbook thread and we will discuss that there. here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11598978&posted=1#post11598978) is a link

Finally, I suggest you do some research on the Corporate Alliance. Their
founder, the Griffencrest Corporation (based in the nation of the Blackhelm
Confederacy) has a history of invading young, small, nations in attempts to
steal their natural resources, most specifically oil.

Well...I see that I have been made out as evil here. I think your nation should become a Griffincrest associate. As an associate, your citizens are treated just like Griffincrest employees, and any attack on your nation will be treated as an attack on our own people. If you doubt this, look to Beiraq, where the warmongering Wanderjar was halted in his assault on the associate state. All we ask is we run your trade to boost your fledgeling economy, and we keep a military garrison in your nation.

Second point, how many sucessful operations has the CA actually launched? Ever?

The defense of Blackhelm from Kroando/Xeno - Victory

Assault on Xeno island - Xeno cancelled it

Toopoxian/LNI War - LNI canelled it

Sochatopia assaults Blackhelm - Victory

Griffincrest/Toopoxia invasion of Hydac - Draw

OOC:
Can't we all just get along?
Sure we all have out bad-points but we can't take those heart. No nation does anything without having something to gain in return, be it resources, territory, men, ect, and ect. So don't take what one does to heart and run t another. Just my two cents

The defense of Blackhelm from Kroando/Xeno - Victory

Assault on Xeno island - Xeno cancelled it

Toopoxian/LNI War - LNI canelled it

Sochatopia assaults Blackhelm - Victory

Griffincrest/Toopoxia invasion of Hydac - Draw


OOC: So, two conclusively. Both of which were defenses?

The two offensive ones were called off, one because Xeno is a baby and was losing. The other because it wasn't the way LNI envisioned it. The draw in Hydac was I would leave and get a 60% discount on Hydaki oil, and as a corporation I see wars in the economical view, so the drop in oil cost was more benficial then losing mercenaries and vehicles,