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Calling arms manufacturers: small arms needed

Mer des Ennuis
21-08-2006, 22:39
I am in need of some replacements for the small arms as part of an overhaul of my ground forces. If you say "look at my storefront" i will ignore you. If you do not say what weapon(s) you intend to replace, I will ignore your post. DPR must be availalbe for all ammunition types/weapon systems/etc. Please include a price and a description of the item, as well as why you think your specific weapon is better than what I am currently using. Thank you.

Fabrique Nationale Five-Seven - Universal sidearm, replacement should be chambered for 5.7x28, threaded barrel and ability to hold a tactical light
Steyr Aug A3 - chambered in 6.5 grendel, must be a bullpup, must be availalbe as a sharpshooter/accurized/designated marksman rifle (what ever you want to call it), assault/battle rifle, and capable of accecpting a grenade launcher
General Dynamics M312 - .50 cal, should have a cyclical rate of fire capable of anti-helicopter operations. I'll accecpt a larger caliber provided it can act as a 2 man crew served weapon.
HK-MSG 90 - 7.62 sniper rifle, must have rails to allow accessories to be added
Javelin Anti-Tank Missile System - looking for a top-attack/direct attack ATGM, tandem-charge to defeat ERA, range up to or greater than 2,500 m, soft launch, seperate command-launch unit, 127mm missile or greater.
Star streak Anti-Air - MANPAD, should have some form of submunition associated with it (the starstreak splits into 3-beamriding submunitions), basic IFF
HK-MP7 PDW - Smaller version of what ever the replacement for the p90 is, given to medics, must be light-weight, able to be chambered in 5.7x28 mm
M-249 SAW - Dedicated squad automatic weapon/light machine gun, able to be chambered for the 6.5 grendel with a folding stock.
Fabrique Nationale P90 - dedicated personal defence weapon given to vehicle crews/pilots/etc.
M252 81mm Mortar - 4-man crew served mortar with a maximum range of 5.6 k/m or greater.

Barret XM500 50 cal - .50 cal or greater anti-material/sniper rifle, bullpup layout, stationary/non-recoiling barrel, rail system
Franchi SPAS-15 - semi-automatic cartridge loading shotgun, capable of either semi-auto or pump action.
Colt M79 Grenade Launcher - stand-alone grenade launcher (still used for less than lethal/special roles)


Good luck to all contractors involved. Please remember to follow the basic guidelines! Thanks!
The Transylvania
21-08-2006, 22:57
Timber Wolf Inc. offers their fine products to you.

To replace the Fabrique Nationale Five-Seven pistol, Meet the Timber Wolf Inc.’s The Burning Fox pistol. The pistols comes in two version, see the picture. The top one is version one, with can have a tactical light or laser added to. The bottom one, version two, is a short looking one.

The Burning Fox pistol: $900

Picture: http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/BurnFox.jpg

This pistol comes standard with a laser sight. A good pistol to be used by police forces, regular soldiers, or special ops solders. A silencer can be placed on the pistol.

Weight: With magazine, unloaded: 1.90 pounds
Length: 8.58 inches
Barrel length: 5.08 inches
Cartridge: 18 rounds (9 mm Luger)
16 rounds (.357, .40 S&W)
12 rounds (.45 ACP)
Sights: "3-dot" type

A replaced for the M-249 SAW would be the Liowolf machine gun. A lightweight squad automatic weapon. Not as big as a M-249 SAW. More small looking, which helps with the weight.

The Liowolf machine gun: $2,300

Picture: http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/Liowolf.jpg

Timber Wolf Inc.’s lightest Squad Automatic Weapon. A light assault rifle for an squad support soldier. The butt of the rifle can be removed. Iron sights.

Caliber: 5.56mm NATO
Weight: 4.9 kg w/o magazine, 6.8 kg with loaded 100 rds mag and sling
Length: 1024 mm
Length of barrel: 508 mm OR 330 mm (Without butt)
Feeding: drum magazine 100 rounds OR box magazine 30 rounds
Rate of fire: 400-600 rounds per minute

An d a replace for the Franchi SPAS-15, meet my little friend the Victor Enforcer shotgun. A semi-auto shotgun that looks better then a Franchi SPAS-15. And it has a red-dot scope over the no scope on the Franchi SPAS-15.

The Victor Enforcer shotgun: $1,358

Picture: http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/VictorEnforcer.jpg

A shotgun making itself look like an assault rifle. A shot gun that could scary a normal looking shotgun away. Just playing, shotgun have no feelings. This shotgun will for the soldiers that guard buildings that have small short hallways, where an assault rifle is not good to use. Plus, it looks like you are carrying an assault rifle.

Type: Selective semi-auto (Gas operated, rotating bolt)
Gauge: 12
Chamber: 70mm (2 1/2").
Barrel length: 550 mm
Overall length: 1100 mm
Weight: 4.2 kg empty
Magazine: 8 rounds detachable box
Sight: Red dot

For the replace of the General Dynamics M312, I don’t think this is the best but here is the God heavy machine gun. It can be used for anti-helicopter, if need to.

The God heavy machine gun: $8,000

Picture: http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/God.jpg

This machine gun needs to be mounted on a five ton truck or on a naval ship. No human could carry this massive gun into battle. A number choice for somebody that want the duel power of a .50 caliber machine gun. Can be used as anti-air, anti-armor or if you want to get nasty, use it against enemy soldiers. The design of this machine gun has been for over 50 years, dating back to World War II.

Type: Fully-automatic machine gun
Caliber: .50 in (12.7 mm)
Ammunition: .50 BMG
Feed system: Belt-fed
Action: Recoil-operated; short recoil
Length: 1,650 mm (65 in)
Barrel length: 1,140 mm (44 7/8 in)
Weight: 88 kg (58 kg w/ tripod)
Rate of fire: 550 round/min
Muzzle velocity: 3,050 ft/s (930 m/s)
Effective range: 2,000 m (2200 yards)

A replace for the HK-MP7 PDW, the Devil Arms sub-machine gun. A lightweight sub-machine gun that would be good to use for medical crews.

The Devil Arms sub-machine gun: $1,200

Picture: http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/DevilArms.jpg

A lightweight sub-machine that is good for security forces other vehicle crew weapons. Easy to hide under a long coat.

Caliber: 9x18mm Makarov; 9x19mm Luger/Para
Weight: 2.0 - 2.2 kg without magazine
Length (stock closed/open): 338 / 625 mm
Barrel length: 150 mm
Rate of fire: 700 rounds per minute
Magazine capacity: 32 rounds (25 rounds for 9x19mm)
Effective range: 150 meters
Mer des Ennuis
21-08-2006, 23:16
The heavy machine gun would not work, since i'm looking for a mobile machinegun.

Can the The Devil Arms sub-machine gun and the burning fox pistol be rechambered to the 5.7x28.

Can the the Liowolf machine gun be re-chambered to the 6.5 grendel cartrige, and accecpt belts of the same?

Does the victor enforce have a pump action in addition to its current semi-auto action?

What are the main ways in which these weapons are better than what I am currently using? Just makes it easier for me to decide. Lastly, how much would DPR be?
Aequatio
21-08-2006, 23:19
There's the G65 infantry rifle, I could easily redesign it for your 6.5mm round as the ccartridge the weapon was designed for was 6.35mm.

Aequatian Military Industries G65 Infantry Combat Rifle

Since the introduction of the new 6.35x45mm Aequatian Republic Army Munition, the only weapons to use the round were modified variants of previous weapons such as the G4 and G6 rifles and MG55A3 squad automatic weapon. It was seen by designers that a weapon was required to fully display the round's capabilities in armour penetration and accuracy. Engineers at A.M.I. designed the G65 rifle to replace the G4A1 and G6A1 rifles currently in service throughout the Aequatian service branches.

Although designed for the Aequatian 6.35x45mm ARAM round, it can also be fitted to accept 5.56x45mm and 7.62x51mm NATO, 5.45x39mm, 7.62x39mm and 5.8x42mm DBP87.

The Aequatian variant is fitted with an M80 Floating Dot Sight with an effective viewing range of up to 800mm. It can also be outfitted with a 40mm M206A1 grenade launcher for light infantry support and a full universal rail system.

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G65 Rifle

Unit cost: 550 Aequatian Markes
Type: Service rifle
Place of origin: Aequatian Republic
Used by: ARA, ARMC, ARN, ARAF

Weight: 2.68kg (empty)
Length: 790mm (buttstock extended)
Barrel length: 310mm

Cartridge: 6.35x45mm ARAM (Aequatio)
Caliber: 6.35mm
Feed system: 30-round detachable box magazine
Operation: Gas-operated, rotating bolt; full automatic, 3-round burst, semi-automatic
Rate of fire: 800 round/min, cyclic; 1,200 round/min, burst
Muzzle velocity: 1,040m/s
Effective range: 600m (point target); 900mm (area target)
Mer des Ennuis
21-08-2006, 23:26
Aequatio, rifle looks cool, but i'm looking for a bullpup design. Thanks anyways.
Aequatio
21-08-2006, 23:41
Aequatio, rifle looks cool, but i'm looking for a bullpup design. Thanks anyways.

Damn it, everyone loves bullpups so damn much, it makes me sick.
Otagia
21-08-2006, 23:45
As a replacement to the Barret XM500, Pale Rider Arms humbly suggests the M210 13mm sniper rifle. Or, if you wish a slightly larger punch, the M250 Godslayer (the world's largest AMR!) is also available.

PRA M210 13mm Sniper Rifle

Length: 1472mm
Barrel length: 1168mm
Weight: 16 kg
Bore diameter: 13mm
Maximum effective range: 2200m
Muzzle Velocity: 1043 m/s
Operation: Bolt-action
Safety: Frame-mounted
Magazine Capacity: 6 rounds, detachable box
Modes of fire: Safe, Fire
Sights: x1 to x15 Electronic w/ nightvision
Accuracy: 0.6 minutes of arc
Cost: $15,000


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Length: 1960mm
Barrel Length: 1797mm
Shell: 60mm Hybrid
Muzzle Velocity: 240 m/s
Maximum Velocity (200 meters): 1200 m/s
Effective Range: 1600 meters
Mass: 23 kg (includes firing harness)
Magazine: 4 rounds
Cost: 15,000 USD

With a barrel nearly a meter longer than the Thunderclap, the Godslayer is the new AMW for the Otagian military. Firing a variant of the shell used in the Thunderclap, the Godslayer shell features a much larger initial propellant, launching the shell out of the barrel at velocities under the speed of sound. Upon exiting the barrel, the rocket at the rear of the shell ignites, continuing to propell the round until impact.

As a replacement for the MSG-90, PRA offers the M220 Sniper Rifle, which is normally chambered for 8x60mm rounds. However, this can be resized for 7.62 with little difficulty.

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Cartridge: 8mm x 60mm
Operation: Gas Operated, Rotating Bolt, Semi-Auto (Bullpup)
Length: 890mm
Barrel Length: 810mm
Weight: 6.98 kg
Magazine: 8 round detachable box
Maximum Effective Range: 1200m
Sights: x1-x10 Electronic sight w/ nightvision
Accuracy: 0.5 minutes of angle
Modes of Fire: Safe, Free
Safety: Frame Mounted
Other: Optional reducing ports, suppressor, bipod
Cost: $5500

The M220 was designed by Pale Rider Arms as a tactical sniping weapon, hand crafted for use in the field of battle, unlike many other so-called sniper rifles, which are merely modified versions of civilian weapons. The M220 includes an option for reducing ports, which reduce the velocity of the supersonic 8mm rounds to just under the speed of sound, meaning that the impact of the bullet will make more sound than firing it.

As a replacement for the Steyr Aug, PRA reccommends the M25 HVAR. While it does not use 6.5mm Grendel, we are confident that our 6x50mm high velocity caseless round more than meets the requirements for todays battlefield, with excellent armor penetration and even utility against armored targets. With integral SmartGun system, the weapon is incredibly accurate, even when fired from the hip.

M25 HVAR

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Length: 560mm
Barrel Length: 491mm
UGL Barrel Length: 214mm
Cartridge: 6mm x 50mm high velocity caseless, 30mm grenade
Muzzle Velocity: 5000 fps
Ammuntion: 60 6mm, 6 30mm grenades
Modes of Fire: Safe, Semi Auto, 3 round burst, full auto, grenade
Mass (Empty): 4.1 kg
Mass (Fully Loaded): 6.42 kg
Features: Recessed top mounting rail, integral smartgun system
Cost: 2700 USD (includes set of smartgun goggles)

The successor to the popular M22 series HVAR, the M25 was designed as a lighter version of the M22, while maintaining its accuracy and firepower. In order to meet these goals, a bull-pup configuration was adopted, shrinking the over all size of the weapon. The 40mm grenade launcher was replaced with the smaller 30mm variant, not only reducing weight but increasing logistical efficiency, as it shares its ammunition with the GL series of launchers. Other features were improved, notably the addition of a full integral smartgun system, as well as a large magazine.
The Transylvania
21-08-2006, 23:47
The God heavy machine gun would not work, since I'm looking for a mobile machinegun.

Mount in the back of a five-ton truck and you have mobile gun.

Can the Devil Arms sub-machine gun and the burning fox pistol be re-chambered to the 5.7x28mm.

They can be but the Burning Fox comes in .45 ACP. But if you want them in 5.7x28mm, it will take some time to make sure they work before they are sold to you.

Can the Liowolf machine gun be re-chambered to the 6.5 grendel cartridge, and accept belts of the same?

Yes, it can be re-chambered to be 6.5 grendel cartridge but like the Devil Arms sub-machine gun and Burning Fox, it will take time.

Does the Victor Enforcer have a pump action in addition to its current semi-auto action?

Nope, there is not a pump action Victor Enforcer. The prototype was one but the tester say that the pump was strange. It did not fit the assault rifle look like the Victor Enforcer shotgun was designed to look like.

What are the main ways in which these weapons are better than what I am currently using? Just makes it easier for me to decide.

One reason is that they are finely made by Timber Wolf Inc. Another reason is that some are lighter then the weapons used by your forces.

Lastly, how much would DPR be?

Timber Wolf Inc. does not sell DPR on it’s firearms, only knives.

Aequatio, rifle looks cool, but I'm looking for a bullpup design. Thanks anyways.

Bullpup you say. Well...check out the Metal Griffin assault rifle. Can be re-cambered to 6.5mm round but it would take some time to get to work right. Don’t want to sell you something that would blow up in your soldier’s face.

The Metal Griffin assault rifle: $2,000

Picture: http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y101/CountJWolf/MetalGriffin.jpg

Timber Wolf Inc.’s top assault rifle. Has a built-in red dot type scope. The Metal Griffin is the lightest assault rifle (empty) made by TWI. Has both semi-auto and full-auto.

Caliber: 5.56mm NATO
Action: Gas operated, rotating bolt
Overall length: 720 mm
Barrel length: 460 mm
Weight: 2.8 kg empty, 3.63 kg with loaded 30 rounds magazine & sling
Magazine capacity: 20 or 30 rounds standard
Rate of fire: 750 - 900 rounds per minute
Mer des Ennuis
22-08-2006, 00:49
Aequatio:
Personally like bullpups just because they are compact without necessarily sacrificing accuracy.

Otagia:

We can go with the bigger round for the msg-90, but do you have a semiauto rifle for it?

The m25 HVAR, what is this "smartgun" system? I have my doubts about caseless, do you offer any standard rifles? The weapon looks cool btw.

Tran,

The enforcer does not meet the requirements (the Spachi-15 has both pump and semi-auto functions, allowing special ammunition to be loaded without loading an entire clip), so we cannot accecpt it. I'll consider the rifle you last offered. As for a machine gun, we need a man-portable weapon to provide dismounted heavy suppressive fire.
The Transylvania
22-08-2006, 00:57
Tran,

The enforcer does not meet the requirements (the Spachi-15 has both pump and semi-auto functions, allowing special ammunition to be loaded without loading an entire clip), so we cannot accecpt it. I'll consider the rifle you last offered. As for a machine gun, we need a man-portable weapon to provide dismounted heavy suppressive fire.

Oh…okay. Well, can’t say that did not try.
Mer des Ennuis
22-08-2006, 01:01
Tran: my mistake, i forgot your SAW offering, i'll consider that as well. DPR is crucial though, seeing as i am constantly tinkering with layouts of my corps/divisions/etc, as well as for spare parts. If, in the end, we find we choose these armnaments, could DPR be negotiated?
Otagia
22-08-2006, 01:06
The SmartGun system is a small, cellphone sized computer imbedded in the front of the M25. The system uses a small laser targetting system and several other systems to project a cross-hairs onto goggles worn by the user, along with range data. Information is transmitted wirelessly to a range of up to five meters. Both the integrated system and the goggles are extremely rugged, and battery life at continuous use is approximately 24 hours. With the M25, the SmartGun system will be disabled automatically when the safety is engaged, ensuring battery life is maintained.

PRA at this time does not offer assault rifles using standard rounds. A cased version of the M25 could be manufactured with minimal difficulty, but muzzle velocity would suffer due to wasted force from shell ejection, as well as from lowered propellant in the cased round when compared to the current caseless round.

PRA also does not currently offer a semi-automatic version of the M220, as such a modification would result in lowered accuracy with the weapon.
The Transylvania
22-08-2006, 01:09
Tran: my mistake, i forgot your SAW offering, i'll consider that as well. DPR is crucial though, seeing as i am constantly tinkering with layouts of my corps/divisions/etc, as well as for spare parts. If, in the end, we find we choose these armnaments, could DPR be negotiated?


That would be a hard cookie to break, if you understand what I mean. The assault rifle and the light machine gun are new guns made by Timber Wolf Inc. Plus unlike other companies, TWI does not sell DPRs. For the fact that it cost only a million firearms and the person could made twenty million, thus TWI would lose a lot of money.

But we could negotiated a deal for free spare parts.
Asperitas
22-08-2006, 01:13
.45 AS Caseless, Normal Mag, Stock Extended - http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v145/KGBFaTaLsHoT/G4A1.png



G4 Sub-Machine Gun
// Abstract //

Due to the necessity for a weapon to replace the current Machine Pistol arming officers and pilots and such due to it’s unreliability, weight, and size making it a bit uncontrollable the G4 was made to replace it.

The G4 excelled in being visually pleasing, accurate, small, powerful and reliable. It was to replace the MP5 in current use and did an excellent job at it using patented quad recoil springs arrangement allows for decreased felt recoil and increased service life of the Machine Pistol. The frame of the weapon is made out of almost entirely high strength polymers. The weapon also features a large trigger guard for comfortable shooting even with gloves. The G4 is issued with quick-detachable silencers, Novac Lo Carry Transparent Blue Holosighthttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v145/KGBFaTaLsHoT/Gun%20Pictures/Sights.jpg, made in USA by Knight's Armaments Co, and with laser pointing module, which installs on the under barrel, or above the barrel RAIL systems. Despite being ridiculously reliable it’s light, and comfortable to wield and fire making it a favorite amongst gun aficionados. Also the weapon is intended with use of the 4.7x39mm high velocity ammunition which claims 100% penetration of CRISAT body Armour (1.6mm of Titanium plus 20 layers of Kevlar) at the distance of 280 meters.

The weapon features a comfortable soft polymer fore-grip which can be detached to reveal a medium length RAIL mount directly under the barrel for the attachment of tactical grips or laser sight or any other equipment which may be equipped on a RAIL system. Despite that the rifle also features a fully detachable and folding stock for comfortable shooting, or light weight, unhampered spraying on the go. The gun it’s self is athstetically pleasing and light, as well as being a scaled down version of the G-12 Asperitan standard issue assault rifles featuring all of it’s pros and less of it’s Cons. One of them being size and lack of recoil dampening. Also, the weapon if asked, can be made metal detector proof. In which integral parts are all changed to super high strength polymers and ceramics which not only makes the weapon heavier and not as reliable as it should be but it also makes it stealth and perfect operations. Ammunition of course isn't detectable as it is caseless, unless your using a ferrous metal cased/core bullet. Despite that this weapon is a prime choice for Special Operations personelle or Pilots due to it's reliability, simple construction, light weight, and comfortable forgrip and normal grip as well as folding stock. Also the Blue transparent sights make pointing and shooting a breeze, and even easier for repeated shooting because the sight is not obstrucing the target or surrounding it. It is giving the best of both worlds with none of the cons and so repeated firing is as easy as single shots and just as accurate as well.

Not only that but AS 4.7 and 5.7 ammunition comes with a small laminate which completely vaporizes with heat and get wiped clean from the chamber with the expanding gasses. The laminate acts as a waterproofer, and keeps in enought oxygen to allow for oxidation and combustion of the grains. Which in turn means this weapon can theoretically be fired in the vaccum of space or in underwater conditions(Not Recommended). Another reason 4.7 and 5.7 were chosen as the weapons main ammunition choices were that the bullets begin to tumble after a rather short distance causing much hydrostatic shock. Which in turn equals lots, and lots of stopping power, and not only that but range shouldn't be a concern with bullet tumbling as range would be concerned with use of Rifles or SMG's. The weapon also featues ajustable barrel weight rods which are are packaged with the gun. The rods are weighed at 5 lbs meaning, when inserted, make the gun 10.5 lbs total. The small cast-iron knob located just above and infront of the trigger guard can move the rod to the users prefrence making kick and uncomfortable felt recoil only small niuscences.

// Specifications //

Caliber: .45 ASP Caseless Also Available in - (5.7/4.7x39 Caseless AS)
Overall Length Stock Extendde/Un-Extended: 25/11 Inches
Folding Stock Length: 1 foot
Barrel Length: 7.2 Inches
Muzzle Velocity: 2,905 FPS
Weight (Unloaded/Without Balancing Weight Rods): 5.5 Lbs
Rate of Fire:
Fastest Clock
2000 RPM
Normal Clock
800 RPM
Slowest Clock
10 RPM
Magazine Size: 40 Rounds Standard Magazine, or 20 round ultra-compact magazine, or 140 Round Beta C-Mag, or 80 Round Extended Mag.
Action: Short-Stroke Gas Piston
Modes of Fire: Semi-Auto, Full-Auto, Safety, and 2 Rnd Burst
Effective Range: 320 Meters
Price:$1850 USD


Due to the growing amount of G12 variations made by Asperitas due to the weapons reliability, adaptability and stylishness it has made its made into many different Asperitan military roles as well as keeping it's place as a peice of eye candy worth spending money on.

And so, all variations ever produced will be placed here for viewing or purchasing if they are released for purchase.

Paratrooper Variant

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// Abstract //

The G12 is the next, and first generation assault rifle for the Asperitan Armed Forces, or the AAF. Over several dozen years of learning and understanding the mechanics of the Assault rifle, and the most successful designs the Asperitan research department came up with this weapon. At the forefront of plastics, polymers, and light weight metals this rifle was born.

The rifle uses a bullpup configuration, following the recent rise of bullpup rifles, but attempts to capitalize on the configuration to increase potential muzzle velocity, allowing for greater penetration. It also relies on caseless ammunition, as opposed to cased ammunition to no longer risk jamming and if the need arise have an ultra high possible ROF to hose down targets in lead. The G12 also sports a fully modular barrel which can easily and quickly be changed out in less than a minute if the need arise. The weapon it’s self is fully modular as well, the body made for quick field stripping for adjustment of the RPM.

This rifle over the years has become a favorite amount Asperitan soldiers because it simply never jams, is a breeze to clean and maintain, the ability to quickly change out the barrel, it’s perfect length of not being overly long and so to be cumbersome.

The point of choosing 5.7mm ammunition was out of logistics. It was decided that after several hundred meters the bullet would begin to tumble causing an astounding amount of hydrostatic shock though not fatality knocking out the Opfor and two other soldiers. A medic, and a soldier to help him off the field, meaning 3 soldiers for one bullet, maybe 4 soldiers if the Opfor requires a second helper to be dragged off the field. Another reason was that it easily could become Super Sonic and perform better as an armor piercing round than say 7.62 as the size causes more friction due to it’s diameter.

Also a small heavy density steel rod weighs down the weapon near the fore-grip in which a small knob which can be turned can distribute weight according to the users prefrence. Otherwise, it is perfectly distributed upon standard issue.

The G12-A3 Sports a folding stock, and shortest barrel as well as the ability to remove the Iron Balancing rod due to it's common use in paradrop missions and carbine like usage. It also sports an improved flash-hider and the use of 4.7mm for reduced recoil as well as an improved magazine size to 60 rounds.

Also Asperitan Novac Lo Carry Transparent Blue Holo Sights make up the standard issue Iron Sights.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v145/KGBFaTaLsHoT/Gun%20Pictures/Sights.jpg
As shown in the preview below, they make repetitive automatic, or single shot shooting a breeze because while the target is always in sight and because the crosshairs are always there to guide not obstruct view to the target.

Calibre: 5.7x39mm [And 4.7x39mm with the interchanging of the barrels.]
Operation: Delayed Inertia/Blowback
Overall Length Stock Folded/Unfolded: 39/28 Inches
Barrel Length: 25 Inches
Bayonet Length: 1 Foot
Weight [Empty With Balancing Weight Rod/Without]: 11.9/7.8 lbs
Magazine Capacity: 60 rounds
Muzzle Velocity: 3,505 FPS
Rate of Fire:
Fastest Clock: 1600 RPM
Normal Clock: 700 RPM
Slowest Clock: 10 RPM
Firing Modes: Single Shot, Two round burst, Fully Automatic, and Safety
Maximum Effective Range: 660 meters
Procurement Cost: 3,500 USD

Assault Rifle/Asperitan Standard Issue

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// Abstract //

The G12 is the next, and first generation assault rifle for the Asperitan Armed Forces, or the AAF. Over several dozen years of learning and understanding the mechanics of the Assault rifle, and the most successful designs the Asperitan research department came up with this weapon. At the forefront of plastics, polymers, and light weight metals this rifle was born.

The rifle uses a bullpup configuration, following the recent rise of bullpup rifles, but attempts to capitalize on the configuration to increase potential muzzle velocity, allowing for greater penetration. It also relies on caseless ammunition, as opposed to cased ammunition to no longer risk jamming and if the need arise have an ultra high possible ROF to hose down targets in lead. The G12 also sports a fully modular barrel which can easily and quickly be changed out in less than a minute if the need arise. The weapon it’s self is fully modular as well, the body made for quick field stripping for adjustment of the RPM.

This rifle over the years has become a favorite amount Asperitan soldiers because it simply never jams, is a breeze to clean and maintain, the ability to quickly change out the barrel, it’s perfect length of not being overly long and so to be cumbersome.

The point of choosing 5.7mm ammunition was out of logistics. It was decided that after several hundred meters the bullet would begin to tumble causing an astounding amount of hydrostatic shock though not fatality knocking out the Opfor and two other soldiers. A medic, and a soldier to help him off the field, meaning 3 soldiers for one bullet, maybe 4 soldiers if the Opfor requires a second helper to be dragged off the field. Another reason was that it easily could become Super Sonic and perform better as an armor piercing round than say 7.62 as the size causes more friction due to it’s diameter.

Also a small heavy density steel rod weighs down the weapon near the fore-grip in which a small knob which can be turned can distribute weight according to the users prefrence. Otherwise, it is perfectly distributed upon standard issue.

The G12 A4 sports out of others, a comfortable stock, stylish body, ability to be quickly feild stripped and a medium length and density barrel.

Also Asperitan Novac Lo Carry Transparent Blue Holo Sights make up the standard issue Iron Sights.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v145/KGBFaTaLsHoT/Gun%20Pictures/Sights.jpg
As shown in the preview below, they make repetitive automatic, or single shot shooting a breeze because while the target is always in sight and because the crosshairs are always there to guide not obstruct view to the target.

Calibre: 5.7x39mm [And 4.7x39mm with the interchanging of the barrels.]
Operation: Delayed Inertia/Blowback
Overall Length: 30 Inches
Barrel Length: 27 Inches
Bayonet Length: 1 Foot
Weight [Empty With Balancing Weight Rod/Without]: 11.9/7.8 lbs
Magazine Capacity: 55 rounds
Muzzle Velocity: 3,505 FPS
Rate of Fire:
Fastest Clock: 1600 RPM
Normal Clock: 700 RPM
Slowest Clock: 10 RPM
Firing Modes: Single Shot, Two round burst, Fully Automatic, and Safety
Maximum Effective Range: 680 meters
Procurement Cost: 3,800 USD

Light Support Variant

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v145/KGBFaTaLsHoT/G12A5.png

// Abstract //

The G12 is the next, and first generation assault rifle for the Asperitan Armed Forces, or the AAF. Over several dozen years of learning and understanding the mechanics of the Assault rifle, and the most successful designs the Asperitan research department came up with this weapon. At the forefront of plastics, polymers, and light weight metals this rifle was born.

The rifle uses a bullpup configuration, following the recent rise of bullpup rifles, but attempts to capitalize on the configuration to increase potential muzzle velocity, allowing for greater penetration. It also relies on caseless ammunition, as opposed to cased ammunition to no longer risk jamming and if the need arise have an ultra high possible ROF to hose down targets in lead. The G12 also sports a fully modular barrel which can easily and quickly be changed out in less than a minute if the need arise. The weapon it’s self is fully modular as well, the body made for quick field stripping for adjustment of the RPM.

This rifle over the years has become a favorite amount Asperitan soldiers because it simply never jams, is a breeze to clean and maintain, the ability to quickly change out the barrel, it’s perfect length of not being overly long and so to be cumbersome.

The point of choosing 5.7mm ammunition was out of logistics. It was decided that after several hundred meters the bullet would begin to tumble causing an astounding amount of hydrostatic shock though not fatality knocking out the Opfor and two other soldiers. A medic, and a soldier to help him off the field, meaning 3 soldiers for one bullet, maybe 4 soldiers if the Opfor requires a second helper to be dragged off the field. Another reason was that it easily could become Super Sonic and perform better as an armor piercing round than say 7.62 as the size causes more friction due to it’s diameter.

Also a small heavy density steel rod weighs down the weapon near the fore-grip in which a small knob which can be turned can distribute weight according to the users prefrence. Otherwise, it is perfectly distributed upon standard issue.

The G12 A5 sports out of others, a comfortable stock, stylish body, ability to be quickly feild stripped and a medium length and density barrel.

Also Asperitan Novac Lo Carry Transparent Blue Holo Sights make up the standard issue Iron Sights.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v145/KGBFaTaLsHoT/Gun%20Pictures/Sights.jpg
As shown in the preview below, they make repetitive automatic, or single shot shooting a breeze because while the target is always in sight and because the crosshairs are always there to guide not obstruct view to the target.

Calibre: 5.7x39mm [And 4.7x39mm with the interchanging of the barrels.]
Operation: Delayed Inertia/Blowback
Overall Length: 35 Inches
Barrel Length: 32 Inches
Bayonet Length: 1 Foot
Weight [Empty With Balancing Weight Rod/Without]: 11.9/7.8 lbs
Magazine Capacity: 180 rounds
Muzzle Velocity: 3,505 FPS
Rate of Fire:
Fastest Clock: 1800 RPM
Normal Clock: 700 RPM
Slowest Clock: 10 RPM
Firing Modes: Single Shot, Two round burst, Fully Automatic, and Safety
Maximum Effective Range: 720 meters
Procurement Cost: 4,000 USD

G12 A4 Leafanistani Variant

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v145/KGBFaTaLsHoT/G12A4-leaf.png

// Abstract //

The G12 is the next, and first generation assault rifle for the Asperitan Armed Forces, or the AAF. Over several dozen years of learning and understanding the mechanics of the Assault rifle, and the most successful designs the Asperitan research department came up with this weapon. At the forefront of plastics, polymers, and light weight metals this rifle was born.

The rifle uses a bullpup configuration, following the recent rise of bullpup rifles, but attempts to capitalize on the configuration to increase potential muzzle velocity, allowing for greater penetration. It also relies on caseless ammunition, as opposed to cased ammunition to no longer risk jamming and if the need arise have an ultra high possible ROF to hose down targets in lead. The G12 also sports a fully modular barrel which can easily and quickly be changed out in less than a minute if the need arise. The weapon it’s self is fully modular as well, the body made for quick field stripping for adjustment of the RPM.

This rifle over the years has become a favorite amount Asperitan soldiers because it simply never jams, is a breeze to clean and maintain, the ability to quickly change out the barrel, it’s perfect length of not being overly long and so to be cumbersome.

The point of choosing 5.7mm ammunition was out of logistics. It was decided that after several hundred meters the bullet would begin to tumble causing an astounding amount of hydrostatic shock though not fatality knocking out the Opfor and two other soldiers. A medic, and a soldier to help him off the field, meaning 3 soldiers for one bullet, maybe 4 soldiers if the Opfor requires a second helper to be dragged off the field. Another reason was that it easily could become Super Sonic and perform better as an armor piercing round than say 7.62 as the size causes more friction due to it’s diameter.

Also a small heavy density steel rod weighs down the weapon near the fore-grip in which a small knob which can be turned can distribute weight according to the users prefrence. Otherwise, it is perfectly distributed upon standard issue.

The G12 A4 sports out of others, a comfortable stock, stylish body, ability to be quickly feild stripped and a medium length and density barrel. Though the Leafanistani variant features small internal changes which are completely unoticeable from the origionals.

Also Asperitan Novac Lo Carry Transparent Blue Holo Sights make up the standard issue Iron Sights.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v145/KGBFaTaLsHoT/Gun%20Pictures/Sights.jpg
As shown in the preview below, they make repetitive automatic, or single shot shooting a breeze because while the target is always in sight and because the crosshairs are always there to guide not obstruct view to the target.

Calibre: 5.7x39mm [And 4.7x39mm with the interchanging of the barrels.]
Operation: Delayed Inertia/Blowback
Overall Length: 35 Inches
Barrel Length: 32 Inches
Bayonet Length: 1 Foot
Weight [Empty With Balancing Weight Rod/Without]: 11.9/7.8 lbs
Magazine Capacity: 55 rounds
Muzzle Velocity: 3,505 FPS
Rate of Fire:
Fastest Clock: 1800 RPM
Normal Clock: 700 RPM
Slowest Clock: 10 RPM
Firing Modes: Single Shot, Two round burst, Fully Automatic, and Safety
Maximum Effective Range: 720 meters
Procurement Cost: 3,800 USD
Mer des Ennuis
22-08-2006, 23:57
Current leaders

Fabrique Nationale Five-Seven - none
Steyr Aug A3 - none
General Dynamics M312 - none
HK-MSG 90 - Pale Rider Arms (Otagia) M220
Javelin Anti-Tank Missile System - none
Star streak Anti-Air - none
HK-MP7 PDW - none
M-249 SAW - none
Fabrique Nationale P90 - none
M252 81mm Mortar - none
Barret XM500 50 cal - Pale Rider Arms (Otagia) M210
Franchi SPAS-15 - none
Colt M79 Grenade Launcher - none

The Liowolf was rejected due to inadequate size of ammunition (the m249 takes a 200 round box vs. the liowolf's 100 round drum), lower rate of fire, and marginal weight improvement.

The Pale Rider Arms Godslayer was rejected due to the proposed adoption of the m210, and the fact that it would not beable to replace the javelin. The m25 was rejected due to incompatability with current standard issue helmets/information systems.

Offerings from Asperitas were rejected due to failure to meet ammunition requirements, which were the ability to use the 6.5mm grendel round (to provide interoperability with the squad support weapon and the squad designated marksman rifle), as well as the use of caseless ammunition.

Still plenty of contracts to go!
The World Soviet Party
23-08-2006, 00:07
To replace the Franchi SPAS-15

12 Gauge (Also comes in 10 gauge, although 12 is more widely used) "Thumper" B-45 shotgun.
2 3/4, 3"

10 rounds, cocking lever on the left side (Or right side, models come for left and rights hands, allowing dual wielding) grasp lever can be put down. As a clip is reloaded into the gun, the bolt snaps forwards automatically, allowing the user to simply continue firing. This way, the user will only have to cock the bolt once during an entire firefight. Recoil is moderate thanks to the barrel blowback of the weapon (Barrel blowback on this model indicates that the entire barrel blows backwards into the gun) Stock is non-existent, allowing it to be concealed easily. In short, a great close-range weapon, especially when used with slugs.
Mer des Ennuis
23-08-2006, 00:12
world soviet party, can you provide more detailed stats on the gun, as well as a picture?
The World Soviet Party
23-08-2006, 00:18
Nope, sorry, thats all I got :)
Asperitas
23-08-2006, 00:24
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v145/KGBFaTaLsHoT/Asperitan-Government-Logo.jpg

[:: Official Asperitan Government Communications Relay ::]

[:: Body ::]
The G4 would be an excellent replacement for any SMG or MP you are currently using such as the MP7-PDW. The size of the G4 is relatively similar though the punch it packs and the accuracy as well as reliability and magazine compacity far surpasses the MP7 and or any other SMG on the market currently. The information was posted on the last page as well as some light weight rifles.


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Mer des Ennuis
23-08-2006, 00:27
Asperitas, the G4 does not me the chambering requirements, and is still caseless. We are standardizing SMG/PDW ammunition at 5.7x28, to provide compatability with service pistols. We also feel that caseless ammunition would be too dangerous; it jams, can be set off from high temperatures, and is fouled by water.
Asperitas
23-08-2006, 01:46
Asperitas, the G4 does not me the chambering requirements, and is still caseless. We are standardizing SMG/PDW ammunition at 5.7x28, to provide compatability with service pistols. We also feel that caseless ammunition would be too dangerous; it jams, can be set off from high temperatures, and is fouled by water.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v145/KGBFaTaLsHoT/Asperitan-Government-Logo.jpg

[:: Official Asperitan Government Communications Relay ::]

[:: Body ::]
You didnt read of our case;ess ammunition which uses a laminate that vaporizes as the round is set off and is cleaned from the chamber by the expanding gasses.

Despite that jams are easily cleaned out by our weapon by a quick an easy feild strip that simply involves taking the bolt in a locked back position, taking out the magazine, and then reaching into that area and easily removing the bullet. Also, the high tempratures in the chamber are only reached if the gun is set at a clock ROF of 2000+ RPM. So really none of the caseless cons are attained by use of this gun.


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imported_Illior
23-08-2006, 01:58
Although it's not a bullpup due to the necessity of the exotic recoil system, IA LPC, is proud to present it's ISR-15 (http://z7.invisionfree.com/Illiorian_Arms/index.php?showtopic=40&st=0) Antimaterial/ Heavy duty sniper rifle. It's not small, or easy to handle, but it's deadly at range and packs one helluva punch.
Mer des Ennuis
23-08-2006, 03:31
Asperitas, it still does not meet the caliber requirements.

Illior, the picture of your recoil system does not work. I'll examine it closer when the picture works.
imported_Illior
23-08-2006, 03:40
Hrm... works fine for me, but I'll rehost it so it'll work better... hopefully

Fixed me thinks

EDIT: Changed it to fix the page break
Azazia
23-08-2006, 06:32
The Royal Ordnance Company would like to take a moment to provide the Mer des Ennuis government with a brochure detailing the specifics of our newly designed L75 Evolved Combat Rifle. While the design that follows is specified for a round of 7x50mm dimensions, an individualised 6.5 Grendel variant of the L75 could easily be adapted to the ECR. Similarly, while the marksman variant of the L75 features another non-Grendel round that too could easily be adopted to fire the 6.5 Grendel.

Another proposal we find interesting is the possibility of adapting the L75 Light Squad Weapon to the needs of your specified M249 replacement. Another adaptation of the versatile ECR design, the LSW provides small infantry units with a degree of heavy firepower absent from an ordinary service rifle while utilising similar designs and systems to decrease the strain on training and maintenance logistics. However, the LSW, as a variant of the ECR, also utilises a bullpup design and as such a folding stock would not be a possible design feature.

L75 Evolved Combat Rifle (ECR)

Weight: 4.11kg
Barrel Length: 630mm
Overall Length: 895mm
Calibre: .280
Rate of Fire: 600 rd/min
Muzzle Velocity: 792 m/s
Muzzle Energy: 2948J
Max. Effective Range: 750m
Action: Gas operated, rotating bolt
Feed: 24 or 36 round magazine
Mode of Fire: 1,2, Auto

Price: £620 Basic rifle

Background

While the L62 rifle proved itself both versatile and lethal, the Ministry of Defence received numerous complaints from the Royal Armed Services concerning the significant recoil exhibited by the L62 and its manifestation in reduced readiness figures for combat units, as many soldiers received injuries from the use of the weapon during rigorous training and exercises. At the same time, the L62 proved in its limited time as a less than capable export model – though capable its heavy recoil served as a major detraction from the design. Consequently, the Royal Ordnance Company issued new directives for a new rifle design that could be successfully marketed as a battle rifle with lessened recoil compared to the earlier L62. Among the other necessary requirements, the ability to operated effectively at ranges close to the maximum effective range of the L62, 800 meters.

Design

The L75 is slightly longer than the L62, however, the L75 design consists of a high proportion usage of advanced, lightweight composites that provide resilience in the stress of combat and in the harsh environments to which the rifle is anticipated on being deployed. For the necessary machined parts, however, the rifle is built with high-grade steel and titanium alloys while the barrel makes use of advances in barrel coating technology and materials, primarily the vapour deposition process that coats the interior of the steel alloy barrel (containing chromium and molybdenum) with chrome for additional barrel life of approximately 12,000 rounds. The barrel is set in such a way to ‘free float’ in order to increase the accuracy of the rifle.


Like its predecessor, the L75 allows its operator to toggle between right and left ejection of spent shell casings. While the firing mechanism is of a conventional gas operated design, the pistol grip of the rifle contains a long-life battery that can supply power to those accessories requiring electrical energy. Such accessories, including imaging scopes, are attached to the rail system surrounding the rifle. Unlike the L72, which mounted only top and bottom rails, Royal Ordnance opted to provide a more modular design for the L75 that would allow its operator to utilise the various accessories (such as bayonets, grenade launchers, and other sensors) available to the Royal Armed Services. To do so, the L75 features rails on either side of the barrel.

Ammunition

In order to reduce the recoil of the L75 a reduction of calibre and muzzle velocity was necessary. After extensive field tests and computer simulations, Royal Ordnance decided upon a .280 round, 7x50mm. Initially hopeful on using a smaller 7x43mm round, the 7x50mm was deemed more powerful with the marginal increase in recoil deemed of negligible effect. However, the increased power of the round allowed the rifle to increase its effective maximum range to 750 meters, still shorter than the previous L62 but still adequate for use on large, open battlefields such as the United Kingdom’s various undeveloped colonies.

Currently, the primary round to be used by the Royal Armed Services will be one of a blended metal design, a system pioneered for Oceanian use by the L62. Its use allows for the infliction of serious and potentially mortal, if not outright fatal, wounds upon the enemy. With the significant power of the round, field tests have shown the rifle capable of penetrating advanced body armour at range. When coupled with the two-round burst, again retained from the L62, the L75 is likely to knockdown its targets if they have not been killed.

Accessories

The most important accessories for the basic rifle are the scopes, which would receive their electricity requirements from a long-life battery stored and thermally insulated by the pistol grip. Currently, Royal Ordnance is developing a series of grenade launchers and other sensor devices to attach to the rifle while also exploring refined bayonet designs for situations where such a fall-back option would be required.


It is our sincere hope that the Evolved Combat Rifle shall suit the needs of the service personnel who require an updated arsenal. Should any questions remain about the rifle design, please feel free to forward any inquiries to our corporate office, located in Arsenal, UK. We shall endeavour to answer any such questions as quickly and as thoroughly as possible.

Sincerely,

Rodger Castleton
Project Manager, L75 Evolved Combat Rifle
Royal Ordnance Company plc
Strathdonia
23-08-2006, 12:00
OOC: to be perfectly hoenst there is nothing really on that list worth replacing unless you are willing to move past conventional restraints, which from your requirement list you seem unwilling to do but i cna make a few offers:

IC:
Crookfur Consultancies would liek to offer the following options
Styer AUG repalcement: reasonably simple offering here, new barrel and receiver assemblies to accept 6.5mm Grendal, repalce the current RIS with a Crookfur S-RiS system (basiclaly an improved RIS that provides power and data connections for attached devices, thus a single large battery provides power for all attachments making them lighter and more reliable, also allows compatable attachments to talk to each other ie grenade launchers and digital sights/range finders). Rights package woudl also include domestic production rights for the M371 digital sighting system and either the AM5A3 20mm Multi role tactical launcher or the AM3A5 40mm grenade launcher as well engineering details to allow you to design and manufacture your own S-RIS compatable devices.
Total package deal: $1.1billion
Mer des Ennuis
23-08-2006, 17:13
Azazia, do you have a link to your rifle on your storefront for the rifle?

Strathdonia: I am flexible on calibers; i just want my smgs and pistol to use the same ammunition and my assault rifle and light support weapon to use the same ammunition; this eases the logistical load.
Azazia
23-08-2006, 17:24
ooc: unfortunately as I am just actually starting out with the whole storefront concept, the Royal Ordnance storefront (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=496646) consists of a single post with a few bumps, I admit it is not very impressive. Being a single post means that there is no link to it, but it is about halfway down the first post. But like I said, having just started out I am still figuring out what to put in the storefront and how to put it in there... hopefully that helps/answers your question
Mer des Ennuis
23-08-2006, 17:48
Picture would be cool (just to see if there are any quirks in it) or what not.
Carbandia
23-08-2006, 17:54
I know the calibers are wrong, and have no idea, frankly, if you could re chamber them into 5,7X28mm, but I'm going to offer these two up, regardless..No pics, sadly.
Vyper service pistol
One of the first projects by AWW for the Carbandian army was to fulfill a requirement for a standard service pistol, tough, relatively simple, and accurate.

Design:
Starting off with a steel slide, as much of the frame as possible was made out of advanced composites.
Extra care was taken with the egronomics, making the gun as comfortable to hold as possible, and also full ambi dexterous action.

Action:
After a lot of thought on the matter, it was decided upon double action only action (dao for short), with a manual safety catch added for extra security.

Round:
After considering the Parabellum round for a long time, doubts were raised about it's stopping power, so the more powerfull .357SIG round was chosen, instead, but the gun was able to, with a change of barrel, fire both of those, as well as the .40 S&W round.

Sights, and varios details:
A fully adjustable rear sight, and a fixed forward sight, were placed on the pistol, and a rail was placed in front of the trigger guard for such things as laser sights.
The most unusual feature was borrowed straight from the CZ100, it was a small protrusion on the slide, enabling one handed working of it.


Vyper service pistol
type: double action only
caliber: .357SIG (also available in .40S&W, or 9X19)
weight: 900g
length: 183mm
barrel length: 103mm
magazine capacity: 14 in .357 and .40, 18 in 9X19 versions

Zhukov submachine gun
Done some time later, this was to be the Vyper's companion model. A military, and police, smg, fireing the same .357 round as the pistol for standardazation.

Design:
Yet again advanced composites was chosen for most of the gun's frame, with only the parts that needed to be made out of steel having been so constructed.

Operation:
A closed bolt, blowback operation was chosen, this having been shown to be usefull for most purposes.

Round:
.357SIG had been specified as a must, and, although this was unusual for a smg, this turned out to be possible, and was soon done. Of course using this larger round would affect the number of rounds in the magazine, but it was felt the extra stopping power was worth it.

Sights, rails, and other details:
Again a fixed forward sight, with a fully adjustable rear one, was used, with a rail for a small scope added between them, for extra long range accuracy.
Probably the single most recognizable feature was the fact that the new smg had both forward, and rear grips as standard, with the former being fastened to the latter by the trigger guard. (much like the Russian PP-2000)

Zhukov service smg
caliber: .357SIG
weight: 1,8kg
length, stock closed: 300mm, open: 507mm
barrel length: 183mm
rate of fire: 550rpm
magazine capacity: 35rounds
They do have the same caliber, at least..First time I've offered any of my products outside GASN.
Mer des Ennuis
23-08-2006, 18:09
Yes, but does the .357 offer more killing power than a 5.7x28? I can't tell from a breif glance at the description, but I need 2 smgs: one that stays with vehicles/helos in the event the vehicle is disabled, and another, lighter one that goes with medics. Can you clarify which SMG yours is designed to replace?
Carbandia
23-08-2006, 18:12
Both, ironically. If you take a look at the size of it you see it is more of a pdw than anything else.

While the 5,7X28mm does have excellent (and well documented) ap capability, it's it's actual stopping power that concerns me. While the recoil of the .357 round is heavier, it does also make for more results on the recieving end if the other guy is wearing either light, or no, armour.
Allanea
23-08-2006, 18:40
Official paper from Allanean Arms, Incorporated

We believe we have precisely the devices to feed your needs, in all the categories:

To replace the Steyr-Aug A3, we recommend the Allanean Assault Rifle, Mark 8.

While not a bullpup, the AAR 8 is available in carbine, designated marksman, and regular rifle versions, and can switch between them without the use of tools. It can also be modified (again, sans tools) to become an LMG, replacing your ageing M249 model. It is also possible (however it has not been done before) to reproduce the AAR8 as a bullputp.

To replace the HK MP7 and the P90 both, we recomment our Liberty-C. It's a Five-Seven modification of the Calico Liberty submachinegun. It is helical fed, compact, and allows for a 100-round standard magazine and an extended, 150-round, helical feed magazine for the longer version. It comes in both a long and a short version (Liberty-C, and Liberty-CS).

To replace the Javelin and Star Streak both, we suggest the Sigfried Universal Launcher system, which is manportable and launches both anti-air and a variety of anti-tank guided and unguided missiles, and is useful for urban combat was well as anti-air applications.

To replace the ageing 5-7, we recommen thed Teen Dream 2006 – a Glock variant rechambered in 5.7mm, commonly marketed to young men aged 16-19 in Allanea. This available in a variety of both traditional and untraditional color patterns.

As a mortar, we recommend the Allanean Rose Bloom 82mm semi-automatic/automatic mortar, operating with a 2 man crew, range to 8,000 meters.

As a shotgun we offer our 'Monster-6' 12-gauge, select-fire magazine fed shotgun, which is a highly modified, bullpup-configuration Saiga-12.

As an antimateriel rifle we recommend our Sportsman M666 rifle, which is a bullpup rifle chambered in the 14.5mm caliber.

Finally as a belt-fed heavy machinegun and grenade launcher we recommend our copies of the US ACSW and the allanean properietary 25mm 'FireLance' grenade Launcher.
Otagia
23-08-2006, 19:40
Pale Rider Arms would also like to add its GL-6 and GL-12 Grenade Launchers to the running, in the obvious category.

GL-6 and GL-2 Grenade Launchers

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Need a big bang in a small package? Your underslung grenade launcher doesn't have the rate of fire you need? Get the GL-6! Featuring a six-round magazine and variable rate of fire, the GL-6 packs the fire power of a 30mm grenade into a pistol-sized package. With its bullpup configuration, accuracy rivals that of some UGLs.

Length: 191mm
Barrel Length: 178mm
Bore: 30mm
Mass: 1.2 kg
Mass, Loaded: 2.8 kg
Ammunition: 7
Fire Modes: Safety, Semi Auto, 3 Round Burst
Rate of Fire: 400 rpm
Cost: 1600 USD

Your target still not blown to smithereens? Need to hit that guy sitting just outside of range of your GL-6? The GL-12 is your answer! Essentially an upscaled version of the GL-6, the '12 provides the same amount of bang with twice the ammo and twice the accuracy.

Length: 370mm
Barrel Length: 303.5mm
Bore: 30mm
Mass: 1.8 kg
Mass, Loaded: 4.53 kg
Ammunition: 13
Fire Modes: Safety, Semi Auto, 3 Round Burst
Rate of Fire: 400 rpm
Cost: 2400 USD
imported_Illior
23-08-2006, 19:44
BUMP for fixed Pic
Mer des Ennuis
23-08-2006, 20:41
The following have been chosen:

Fabrique Nationale Five-Seven - Pwnage Ordinance L-26 Doomingsland
Steyr Aug A3 - Doomingsland Defence Industries DR-83-2 Tactical Rifle
General Dynamics M312 - none
HK-MSG 90 - Pale Rider Arms (Otagia) M220
Javelin Anti-Tank Missile System - none
Star streak Anti-Air - none
HK-MP7 PDW - Doomingsland Defence Industries DAC-97
M-249 SAW - Doomingsland Defence Industries DMG-83 SAW
Fabrique Nationale P90 - Doomingsland Defence Industries DAC-97
M252 81mm Mortar - none
Barret XM500 50 cal - Pale Rider Arms (Otagia) M210
Franchi SPAS-15 - none
Colt M79 Grenade Launcher - Pale Rider Arms (Otagia) GL-6 Grenade Launcher

Otagia: can we set a price for DPR? And can you give me a link to a storefront where I can find these weapons? (makes it easier for me to list them on my spreadsheet).

Allanea, we have to reject the Sigfried Universal Launcher System. We've found that such launchers, while they may do their jobs well, are not as good as a pair of dedicated weapons. Can you give more information on the rose bloom and the Monster-6?
Azazia
23-08-2006, 20:50
unfortunately my skills at drawing lineart for rifles and such would not do the design justice... perhaps in time I will develop one, but for now I have no pictures...