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F/A-32 Dogma

Asperitas
19-08-2006, 07:58
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[::The F/A-32 ::]

[:: History ::]


As the cost of a F-22 being simply outrageous and it's ability to maneuver and payload hampered it was viewed as a waste of money and so a fighter to replace that state of the art was made to, 1. Fill the needs of Asperitas; 2. Provide more bang for your buck per-say. This fighter is the most maneuverable, fast, technologically advanced, lightest, and heaviest payload plane for the money you spend.


[:: Specifications ::]

Official Designation: F/A-32 ‘Dogma’
Type: Advanced Air Superiority Fighter/Bomber [And hopefully with further R&D Interceptor]
Length: 67 feet, 5 inches
Wingspan: 43 feet, 7 inches
Height: 13 feet, 11 inches
Propulsion: 2 x FSE XF-132 Turbofan engines
Total Net Thrust: 44,750 lbf
Empty Weight: 30,934 lbs
Maximum Take-Off Weight: 72,000 lbs
Maximum Fuel Weight (0.35): 32,195 lbs
Engine Weight (total): 11,227 lbs
Limit Per/Number of Pylon(s):
[Internal]

10 Air to Air Missile at maximum.

8 Possibe within the internal bombay, and one per two Ventral missile bays.

Maximum Payload: 19,949 lbs
Normal Combat Weight: Untested
Combat Range: 1,964 miles
Ferry Range: 3,433 miles
Operational Ceiling/Altitude: 50,200 ft
Maximum Altitude: 61,200 ft
Cruising Speed: Mach 1.4
Super Cruising Speed: Mach 2.1
Maximum Speed W/ Afterburner: Mach 3+

Crew (List): 1 (Pilot)
Cost to Build: $93 million
Price: $98 million
Profit per Plane Sold: $5 million


[:: General ::]

Top Asperitan aircraft designers from around the nation were hired to replace the F-22 as a superior fighter with a newer better, more maneuverable and cost effective aircraft. Being able to carry more of a payload, go faster; maneuver better, and have 3/4ths the RADAR cross section or if possible less, and have a larger payload. These were the requirements and they were filled perfectly with this beauty of a plane..

[:: Airframe/Construction ::]


Airframe Makeup: 55% Titanium-Aluminide; 20% Super light durable plastics and polymers, 25% Al-Y-Ni Alloy, within a honeycomb frame

The F/A-32 uses a tri-surface configuration; with dual RAM coated canards, One aspect of the F/A-32 is its "switchblade wings" as their function is similar to that of a switchblade knife. At approximately 398 knots or 458 mph, the outer, forward-swept portion of the wing folds inward, leaving just the rearward-sweeping wings. At the same time, the twin ruddervators, normally in a "V" shape, fold down; so they are level with the aircraft's other wings. It is this wing configuration that gives the ‘Dogma’ its incredible maneuverability across such a wide range of speeds and altitudes. With the wingtips deployed, it has all the advantages of forward-swept wings, but since the 'switchblades' retract as speed increases (and are fully stowed well prior to mach transition), extreme wingtip twisting does not occur. The clean delta or spade configuration enables efficient, low-resistance high mach travel. Also the Canards feature leading flaps, flaperon's, and ailerons as do the normal wings. Deploying flaps causes a large nose-down pitching moment, to alleviate this effect swing-wing canard surface which swept forwards to counteract the effect of deploying flaps as to also give it extra lift at lower speeds and at higher speeds it makes this aircraft the most maneuverable ever made. Because of the ludicrous high speeds that this plane can attain strengthening of the joints is needed and so the main wings as well as Ruddervators and Canards all feature carbon nano-tubing along the joints to re-enforce them and making the chance of them shearing off at the high speeds that this plane can attain impossible. Which is more than can be said about the RAM coating. Another advance in this design over ANY other is the fact that the canards rotate up to 90 degrees up or down to make the plane roll faster and quicker as well as more efficently than any other. Which further assists its manuverability. Despite that because the canards swing forward they produce more lift than conventional canards and this swing wing design for Canards has so far never been approached with this Wyvern design. When the forward sweeping canards are in position this plane can take off easily in a SVTOL configuration.

[:: Propulsion/Engine ::]

FSE XF-132 Turbofan engines, rated at 15,978 lbf (dry) each, with a 3D thrust vectoring control, allowing for a hyper-high amount of maneuverability and coupled with its advanced fly by optics and electronics makes it a fighter unparalleled by any other jet in terms of maneuverability. These engines are essentially normal Turbofan engines though have been made up from extremely light composite materials which can withstand higher heats that common Titanium Alloys used in engines. Thusly it gives the plane a higher range and higher Thurst to Rate ratio.

Thrust-to-weight Ratio: 9/1
Engine Weight (individual): 4,309 lbs


[:: Electronics/Avionics ::]

The F/A-32 utilizes the fly-by-optics system for the highest maneuverability possible, necessary in Air Superiority. Information is relayed to the pilot through 2 Super-High resolution TTFT screen, with most of the crucial information available through integrated avionics, in a dual screen configuration . (one main, one secondary screen’s) AVRS (Advanced Voice Recognition System) capability is available and is the primary source of changing displayed information instead of using the touch screens and distracting the pilot from his main task being controlling the plane. Thus allowing the pilot the maximum adaptability to the situation. Using a beyond visual range targeting system known as the AN-AGP 112 which allows the pilot of the F/A-32 to control his attacks in a full 160 degree diameter as well as track up to 38 targets at one time and track enemies up to 600 Km’s away. A LADAR sensor suite, which can help by tracking as far as 80 km and can map the area under the plane to provide a 3D real time map up to 40Km which can be brought up on the main LCD. Though the active radar which has a forward looking radius of 130 degrees and farther than any other RADAR for an aircraft known makes it the newest predator of the skies. A AN/ALQ-210 ECM pod; to hide it’s self from radar using planes, the ALQ-210 using TTFT’s to reduce it’s weight in comparison to ALQ-131 ECM Pod used by the USAF the by 85% and increase it’s effectiveness by nearly 800%! A EALR-52E Radar Warning Receiver which gives an early warning to a possible lock on or imminent lock on; as well as increasing it’s effectiveness in comparison to a current USAF Radar Warning Receiver by nearly 915% also through the use of TTFT’s! Despite that it comes ridden with area’s to store flares and chaff of the users preference.

[:: Weapons/Armament ::]

The F/A-32 has 3 Bays a single internal bomb bay obviously used for bombs which can store up to 4 Bombs and two ventral missile bays. The internal bombay can also accomidate upto 8 Missiles though.

A single 20mm Asperitan Auto-Cannon which are located directly under the cockpit; directly before the ventral bomb-bay, it is rotate-able 40 degrees in any direction and has its own software to help compensate for windage, speed, direction, and distance of a target all in real time to make the accuracy of the gun nearly 99% of the time. This software had and is still in R&D to further increase accuracy of the weapon by increasing the efficiency of the code.


[:: Counter Measures ::]


To ensure that LIDAR/LADAR equipment can’t successfully track the Dogma, it employs a special microbead skin which bends visible light around the aircraft. Which not only makes the aircraft invisible to the naked eye but makes making a LIDAR/LADAR lock on highly improbbable. Laser scrambling systems that will scramble any light waves or laser beams and or laser designators. This ensures that the enemy can’t track the aircraft with light-oriented tracking devices. Also, thanks TTFT's resilience and ruggedness and extra measures to make it more refractive to EMP strikes. This plane wont fall out of the sky at an EMP strike.
[NS]ICCD-Intracircumcordei
19-08-2006, 08:13
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[::The F/A-32 ::]

[:: History ::]


As the cost of a F-22 being simply outrageous and it's ability to maneuver and payload hampered it was viewed as a waste of money and so a fighter to replace that state of the art was made to, 1. Fill the needs of Asperitas; 2. Provide more bang for your buck per-say. This fighter is the most maneuverable, fast, technologically advanced, lightest, and heaviest payload plane for the money you spend.


[:: Specifications ::]

Official Designation: F/A-32 ‘Dogma’
Type: Advanced Air Superiority Fighter/Bomber [And hopefully with further R&D Interceptor]
Length: 67 feet, 5 inches
Wingspan: 43 feet, 7 inches
Height: 13 feet, 11 inches
Propulsion: 2 x FSE XF-132 Turboram engines
Total Net Thrust: 44,750 lbf (Without the use of the Ramjet)
Empty Weight: 30,934 lbs
Maximum Take-Off Weight: 72,000 lbs
Maximum Fuel Weight (0.35): 32,195 lbs
Engine Weight (total): 11,227 lbs
Limit Per/Number of Pylon(s):
[Internal]

16 Missiles

Upon 4 bay's
2 Bays each side
4 Missile holding spinning 6 shooter like loaders in diamond formations.

4 Bombs internal bomb-bay.

[External]

12 Missiles.

(1 x 2) Missile pod per pylon/hard point upon 3 hard points on each wing

Or

8 Missile and 2 extra Fuel tanks

1 Fuel Tank and 3 Missile Pods per wing.
With 2 hard points per wing plus 1 on the wing tip.

Maximum Payload: 19,949 lbs
Normal Combat Weight: Untested
Combat Range: 920 miles
Ferry Range: 15,33 miles
Operational Ceiling/Altitude: 50,200 ft
Maximum Altitude: 61,200 ft
Cruising Speed: Mach 1.4
Super Cruising Speed: Mach 2.1
Maximum Speed Without the Ramjet: Mach 2.2
Maximum Speed With the use of the Ramjet: Mach 5+
(Please Note: Although these ludicrous speeds are attainable with this plane they aren't suggested to attempt as it would shear off the RAM coating and probably the skin as well and any extra ordinance possibly mounted upon the outer wing hardpoints.)

Crew (List): 1 (Pilot)
Cost to Build: $93 million
Price: $98 million
Profit per Plane Sold: $5 million


[:: General ::]

Top Asperitan aircraft designers from around the nation were hired to replace the F-22 as a superior fighter with a newer better, more maneuverable and cost effective aircraft. Being able to carry more of a payload, go faster; maneuver better, and have 3/4ths the RADAR cross section or if possible less, and have a larger payload. These were the requirements and they were filled perfectly with this beauty of a plane..

[:: Airframe/Construction ::]


Airframe Makeup: 55% Titanium-Aluminide; 20% Super light durable plastics and polymers, 25% Al-Y-Ni Alloy, within a honeycomb frame

The F/A-32 uses a tri-surface configuration; with dual RAM coated canards, One aspect of the F/A-32 is its "switchblade wings" as their function is similar to that of a switchblade knife. At approximately 398 knots or 458 mph, the outer, forward-swept portion of the wing folds inward, leaving just the rearward-sweeping wings. At the same time, the twin ruddervators, normally in a "V" shape, fold down; so they are level with the aircraft's other wings. It is this wing configuration that gives the ‘Dogma’ its incredible maneuverability across such a wide range of speeds and altitudes. With the wingtips deployed, it has all the advantages of forward-swept wings, but since the 'switchblades' retract as speed increases (and are fully stowed well prior to mach transition), extreme wingtip twisting does not occur. The clean delta or spade configuration enables efficient, low-resistance high mach travel. Also the Canards feature leading flaps, flaperon's, and ailerons as do the normal wings. Deploying flaps causes a large nose-down pitching moment, to alleviate this effect swing-wing canard surface which swept forwards to counteract the effect of deploying flaps as to also give it extra lift at lower speeds and at higher speeds it makes this aircraft the most maneuverable ever made. Because of the ludicrous high speeds that this plane can attain strengthening of the joints is needed and so the main wings as well as Ruddervators and Canards all feature carbon nano-tubing along the joints to re-enforce them and making the chance of them shearing off at the high speeds that this plane can attain impossible. Which is more than can be said about the RAM coating.

[:: Propulsion/Engine ::]

FSE XF-132 Turboram engines, rated at 15,978 lbf (dry) each, with a 3D thrust vectoring control, allowing for a hyper-high amount of maneuverability and coupled with its advanced fly by optics and electronics makes it a fighter unparalleled by any other jet in terms of maneuverability. These engines are essentially normal Turbofan engines with a Ramjet built in. As once a speed where the Ramjet can effectively be used; being mach 1+ the turbo fan is turned off to use only the ramjet where the plane can then effectively reach speeds of Mach 5+

Thrust-to-weight Ratio: 8/1
Engine Weight (individual): 4,309 lbs


[:: Electronics/Avionics ::]

The F/A-32 utilizes the fly-by-optics system for the highest maneuverability possible, necessary in Air Superiority. Information is relayed to the pilot through 2 Super-High resolution TTFT screen, with most of the crucial information available through integrated avionics, in a dual screen configuration . (one main, one secondary screen’s) AVRS (Advanced Voice Recognition System) capability is available and is the primary source of changing displayed information instead of using the touch screens and distracting the pilot from his main task being controlling the plane. Thus allowing the pilot the maximum adaptability to the situation. Using a beyond visual range targeting system known as the AN-AGP 112 which allows the pilot of the F/A-32 to control his attacks in a full 160 degree diameter as well as track up to 38 targets at one time and track enemies up to 600 Km’s away. A LADAR sensor suite, which can help by tracking as far as 80 km and can map the area under the plane to provide a 3D real time map up to 40Km which can be brought up on the main LCD. Though the active radar which has a forward looking radius of 130 degrees and farther than any other RADAR for an aircraft known makes it the newest predator of the skies. A AN/ALQ-210 ECM pod; to hide it’s self from radar using planes, the ALQ-210 using TTFT’s to reduce it’s weight in comparison to ALQ-131 ECM Pod used by the USAF the by 85% and increase it’s effectiveness by nearly 800%! A EALR-52E Radar Warning Receiver which gives an early warning to a possible lock on or imminent lock on; as well as increasing it’s effectiveness in comparison to a current USAF Radar Warning Receiver by nearly 915% also through the use of TTFT’s! Despite that it comes ridden with area’s to store flares and chaff of the users preference.

[:: Weapons/Armament ::]

The F/A-32 has 6 Bays. 2 On each side meaning 4 parallel side bays and 2 ventral weapons bays. The 4 parallel side bays are meant for the carrying of missiles; and the 2 ventral for bombs. The ventral bays have stations for 4 bombs. 2 bombs in each bay which opens up a second before dropping to keep the radar signature low. The two bombs are in a vertical line, one behind the other.

Each side missile bay has a rotating 4 missile 6-shooting like loader. Meaning when 1 missile is dispensed the loader is rotated towards the next missile. This means (4 x 4) and 16 missiles total with 8 more internal in a dual horizontal missile configuration, and four missiles, two missiles upon a single hard-point one behind the other. (4 x 2)

Dual 35mm Asperitan Auto-Cannons which are located directly under the cockpit; directly before the ventral bomb-bay, it is rotate-able 40 degrees in any direction and has its own software to help compensate for windage, speed, direction, and distance of a target all in real time to make the accuracy of the gun nearly 99% of the time. This software had and is still in R&D to further increase accuracy of the weapon by increasing the efficiency of the code.


[:: Counter Measures ::]


To ensure that LIDAR/LADAR equipment can’t successfully track the Dogma, it employs a special microbead skin which bends visible light around the aircraft. Which not only makes the aircraft invisible to the naked eye but makes making a LIDAR/LADAR lock on highly improbbable. Laser scrambling systems that will scramble any light waves or laser beams and or laser designators. This ensures that the enemy can’t track the aircraft with light-oriented tracking devices. Also, thanks TTFT's resilience and ruggedness and extra measures to make it more refractive to EMP strikes. This plane wont fall out of the sky at an EMP strike.

does dust and other particles stick to the thing? or water?
Asperitas
19-08-2006, 08:23
[1. They dont, at least I suspect they dont to 3 Layers of military high grade RAM.
2. Plz dont quote the first post man. Its a fuckin huge post.]
No Taxes
19-08-2006, 13:29
No Taxes Defence Inc. would like to enquire as to buying manufacturing rights to these aircraft. If this is not possible than we wil buy 50 F/A 32 Aircraft at a price of 4.9 billion.
Asperitas
19-08-2006, 23:29
No Taxes Defence Inc. would like to enquire as to buying manufacturing rights to these aircraft. If this is not possible than we wil buy 50 F/A 32 Aircraft at a price of 4.9 billion.
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[:: Official Asperitan Government Communications Relay ::]

[:: Body ::]
Of course this can be arranged.
USD 1,000,000,000,000. We dont expect you to pay all at once because figures for buying rights to any Asperititan peice of hardware is 5000x the asking price now. We can work out a monthly or yearly payment plan which suites both of our liking. Would you like to know more? If you accept this deal a file will be remotely attached and hosted containing the blueprints to these files in which you may download over a 512bit encrpyed VPN Tunnel.

Also when buying these aircraft we ask only a few things. One of them is tampering or reverse engineering of the aircraft's highly sophisticated software will result in war with your nation. Tampering MAY be allowed though only if Asperitas is notified of the modifications to the software. The actual planes hardware belongs to you, tamper as you like.


[Attached Files - F/A-32 Dogma - Size: 1 Gigabyte - Extenstion: 7z ]
Asperitas
20-08-2006, 01:29
[Really quick question.

Is bumping allowed on NS?]
Cravan
20-08-2006, 01:39
Yes, people do it all the time for these types of things.

Nice work, btw. I was thinking of adopting a design similiar to the Wyvern myself.
Asperitas
20-08-2006, 01:42
Yes, people do it all the time for these types of things.

Nice work, btw. I was thinking of adopting a design similiar to the Wyvern myself.[Thanks for the tip, and it took a long time looking for a decent picture/design for this plane. Let alone designing a surperior plane which could handle on a dime. Which is what I was going for, and a compliment coming from an NS veteran such as your self does mean a lot to me. Thanks man. ]
Arcadeos
20-08-2006, 01:48
OOC: While I agree that the Wyvern was awesome in AC0, and this is the second aircraft I have seen on NS to use that airframe, they both overlook one thing: The way the wings switchblade in. Now, I just got out of the Air Force about a week and a half ago. I was a fighter crewchief, AKA glorified mechanic. Now, I can guarantee you that the forces of physics you are dealing with would rip off the (fore?)wings when they are in transition.
Asperitas
20-08-2006, 02:01
OOC: While I agree that the Wyvern was awesome in AC0, and this is the second aircraft I have seen on NS to use that airframe, they both overlook one thing: The way the wings switchblade in. Now, I just got out of the Air Force about a week and a half ago. I was a fighter crewchief, AKA glorified mechanic. Now, I can guarantee you that the forces of physics you are dealing with would rip off the (fore?)wings when they are in transition.[They switch in WELL before they approach speeds anywhere near supersonic. Hell I even mention the exact speed, but even if they did switch in after super-sonic speeds were acheived I took that into mind and re-enforced the joints with carbon nano-tubing. So if the wing were torn out, it'd tear the ENTIRE plane in half. ]
Space Union
20-08-2006, 02:19
OOC: I have a couple of concerns with your design. First off, your empty weight (even if you do use composite material) is a bit too low, considering the switchblade design has a large weight penalty to its use. Also the aircraft is quite big. I would suggest upping it a good bit. Also I'm sorry but you won't be able to turn on a dime with this fighter. My fighter (the SuF/A-6 Wraith which I put tons and tons of research and specifically designed it to give it manueverability unmatched by any other fighter) can't even turn on a dime. You'll only find short-ranged, slow speed WVR missiles doing that kind of stunts. The Gs that the airframe would receive from that manuever would just shred it apart. Your ranges seem also to be low. Your combat range (unless you meant combat radius) can be upped considerably. I'm betting this could probably get around 3,000 km for a combat range (if you want radius, half of that). Likewise, your Ferry Range can be increased.

Also for your speeds, your regular speeds look good but your maximum speed is off. Just because you have thrust does not mean you can have speed (though its one factor, albiet). Speed is more determined by the shape of your aircraft and I'm pretty darn sure that your current design would not allow for hypersonic flight. It would put too much stress on your airframe and I wouldn't bet it going faster than Mach 3 at the most. That's why I suggest you just delete the ramjet off the design. They are notorious gas guzzlers and any boost in speed you get to evade an enemy will use up your fuel and only delay its destruction.

Another thing, this thing has too many weapons bays. I can see probably you fitting in 10 medium-range missiles (well NS ones not RL ones). You just wouldn't have the nessessary volume to put that many missiles into this. Lastly, your radar range seems too high. That's what I would expect an AWACS (medium-sized) to get, but not a fighter. But I can't be sure on that till I know what's the size of the RCS you can detect at those ranges. If your talker about large bombers, then I think you need to only decrease that to 500-550 km at most. If its against a fighter, then that need's a good chunk off of it.

Other than this, good first try (far better than my first). :)
Asperitas
20-08-2006, 02:28
OOC: I have a couple of concerns with your design. First off, your empty weight (even if you do use composite material) is a bit too low, considering the switchblade design has a large weight penalty to its use. Also the aircraft is quite big. I would suggest upping it a good bit. Also I'm sorry but you won't be able to turn on a dime with this fighter. My fighter (the SuF/A-6 Wraith which I put tons and tons of research and specifically designed it to give it manueverability unmatched by any other fighter) can't even turn on a dime. You'll only find short-ranged, slow speed WVR missiles doing that kind of stunts. The Gs that the airframe would receive from that manuever would just shred it apart. Your ranges seem also to be low. Your combat range (unless you meant combat radius) can be upped considerably. I'm betting this could probably get around 3,000 km for a combat range (if you want radius, half of that). Likewise, your Ferry Range can be increased.

Also for your speeds, your regular speeds look good but your maximum speed is off. Just because you have thrust does not mean you can have speed (though its one factor, albiet). Speed is more determined by the shape of your aircraft and I'm pretty darn sure that your current design would not allow for hypersonic flight. It would put too much stress on your airframe and I wouldn't bet it going faster than Mach 3 at the most. That's why I suggest you just delete the ramjet off the design. They are notorious gas guzzlers and any boost in speed you get to evade an enemy will use up your fuel and only delay its destruction.

Another thing, this thing has too many weapons bays. I can see probably you fitting in 10 medium-range missiles (well NS ones not RL ones). You just wouldn't have the nessessary volume to put that many missiles into this. Lastly, your radar range seems too high. That's what I would expect an AWACS (medium-sized) to get, but not a fighter. But I can't be sure on that till I know what's the size of the RCS you can detect at those ranges. If your talker about large bombers, then I think you need to only decrease that to 500-550 km at most. If its against a fighter, then that need's a good chunk off of it.

Other than this, good first try (far better than my first). :)[Thanks so much dude! Must have taken quite a considerable amount of time to aquire the amount of knowledge to point out those flaws!

Oh, and after I take off the ramjets, how many weapons bays? Just a single internal with 4 hardpoints? And if I did do that, would I be able to keep the launchers on the side of thee ventral bays. And instead of using a diamond rovolver like launcher just a single missile per sidebay to save space, would that work out?]
Velkya
20-08-2006, 02:50
(OOC: Join the Nationstates Draftroom (http://z13.invisionfree.com/The_NS_Draftroom/index.php?act=idx) for more techincal help. All of NS's technical minds, myself and Space Union included reside there. In addition, there is an IRC channel (#draftroom) located on the Esper.Net IRC server dedicated to NS technical discussion. Hope to see you there!)
United States of Brink
20-08-2006, 03:29
The United States of Brink's Defense department would be interested in buying production rights.
Sochatopia
20-08-2006, 05:58
The nation of sochatopia wishes to buy 2000 F-32s for a total of 196,000,000,000. Money wired when order confrimed. May we modify the desine it will be for our own uses we are going to try to test a anti missle lazar to put on top of the plane kind of like a CWIS for a ship. Would we be aloud to do this?
Arcadeos
20-08-2006, 06:02
OOC: Wrong airframe, the Morgan had the TLS, not the Wyvern.
Asperitas
20-08-2006, 11:36
The nation of sochatopia wishes to buy 2000 F-32s for a total of 196,000,000,000. Money wired when order confrimed. May we modify the desine it will be for our own uses we are going to try to test a anti missle lazar to put on top of the plane kind of like a CWIS for a ship. Would we be aloud to do this?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v145/KGBFaTaLsHoT/Asperitan-Government-Logo.jpg

[:: Official Asperitan Government Communications Relay ::]

[:: Body ::]
Of course, modify the physical body as you like, what we care for if you modify is the sophiticated targeting software which has been made with the dual 30mm Auto-Cannons for near perfect accuracy.


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Arcadeos
20-08-2006, 18:20
OOC: Yeah, there's no way in hell that thing can carry even one 30mil. Pare that down to one 20 mil. cannon.
Neo-Erusea
20-08-2006, 18:28
Yes, people do it all the time for these types of things.

Nice work, btw. I was thinking of adopting a design similiar to the Wyvern myself.

Pffft... I frikin' copied the X-02 without modding it at all. I think you (Cravan) might remember from my old War of Neo-Erusean Secession thread. I love using them.
No Taxes
20-08-2006, 18:35
That price is fine, perhaps we can buy the rights for 8 and 1/3 billion dollars per month for 10 years? Also, will we be able to sell the aircraft to any other countries as long as they promise not to reverse engineer or modify the aircraft, or are we only allowed to sell it to buyers within No Taxes?
Cravan
20-08-2006, 18:36
Pffft... I frikin' copied the X-02 without modding it at all. I think you (Cravan) might remember from my old War of Neo-Erusean Secession thread. I love using them.

They are a beautiful plane. Infact I featured it in one of my avatars that I created for an offsite forum.
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c381/crave22/av1pngfinalresize.png

But I'd prefer to use an original design than just copy it altogether.
Sochatopia
20-08-2006, 20:53
Pffft... I frikin' copied the X-02 without modding it at all. I think you (Cravan) might remember from my old War of Neo-Erusean Secession thread. I love using them.
Thats what i thought from ace combat 05. Money wired when can we get our planes.
Space Union
20-08-2006, 21:06
[Thanks so much dude! Must have taken quite a considerable amount of time to aquire the amount of knowledge to point out those flaws!

Oh, and after I take off the ramjets, how many weapons bays? Just a single internal with 4 hardpoints? And if I did do that, would I be able to keep the launchers on the side of thee ventral bays. And instead of using a diamond rovolver like launcher just a single missile per sidebay to save space, would that work out?]

No problem. I suggest having one internal bay that can carry 6x medium air-to-air missiles while having two ventral bays that can carry one short-range air-to-air missile, similar in fashion to the F-22 Raptor. That would work the best.
Asperitas
22-08-2006, 00:49
[~Bump~

NO WYVERN DESIGN SHALL SURPASS MINE IN EFFICIENCY!!
GRR!!]
Asperitas
22-08-2006, 00:57
The nation of sochatopia wishes to buy 2000 F-32s for a total of 196,000,000,000. Money wired when order confrimed. May we modify the desine it will be for our own uses we are going to try to test a anti missle lazar to put on top of the plane kind of like a CWIS for a ship. Would we be aloud to do this?http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v145/KGBFaTaLsHoT/Asperitan-Government-Logo.jpg

[:: Official Asperitan Government Communications Relay ::]

[:: Body ::]
The planes are shipping out as we speak.


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Asperitas
22-08-2006, 00:57
The United States of Brink's Defense department would be interested in buying production rights.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v145/KGBFaTaLsHoT/Asperitan-Government-Logo.jpg

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USD 1,000,000,000,000. We dont expect you to pay all at once because figures for buying rights to any Asperititan peice of hardware is 5000x the asking price now. We can work out a monthly or yearly payment plan which suites both of our liking. Would you like to know more? If you accept this deal a file will be remotely attached and hosted containing the blueprints to these files in which you may download over a 512bit encrpyed VPN Tunnel.


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No Taxes
22-08-2006, 01:01
Also, will we be able to sell the aircraft to any other countries as long as they promise not to reverse engineer or modify the aircraft, or are we only allowed to sell it to buyers within No Taxes?
Asperitas
22-08-2006, 01:05
Also, will we be able to sell the aircraft to any other countries as long as they promise not to reverse engineer or modify the aircraft, or are we only allowed to sell it to buyers within No Taxes?http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v145/KGBFaTaLsHoT/Asperitan-Government-Logo.jpg

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But of course, though we only ask that we get a percentage of the profit, though we ask of nothing much. Would 20% be too much to ask?

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No Taxes
22-08-2006, 01:07
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v145/KGBFaTaLsHoT/Asperitan-Government-Logo.jpg

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But of course, though we only ask that we get a percentage of the profit, though we ask of nothing much. Would 20% be too much to ask?

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We will give you 20% of the net profit from the sale of any aircraft.
Asperitas
22-08-2006, 02:44
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22-08-2006, 05:07
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23-08-2006, 20:31
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