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The Galactic Empire of Mationbuds's spies and Intelligence Operatives have uncovered a plan to invade us by CoreWorlds . Although our navies have had brushes with each other before and understand each other's tactics , they outnumber us by quite a margin . Therefore we appeal to all to assist us in our defence to repel and drive back such invasions .

If their assault fails , a possible offensive could be considered to strike them back for the damage they dealt . We really urge all to help .

Regards ,
Martin Luther , Grand Adviser 2

The Galactic Empire of Mationbuds's spies and Intelligence Operatives have uncovered a plan to invade us by CoreWorlds . Although our navies have had brushes with each other before and understand each other's tactics , they outnumber us by quite a margin . Therefore we appeal to all to assist us in our defence to repel and drive back such invasions .

If their assault fails , a possible offensive could be considered to strike them back for the damage they dealt . We really urge all to help .

Regards ,
Martin Luther , Grand Adviser 2

Way to godmod. We haven't even done anything IC yet, and here you are, already asking for help. Nice.

Way to godmod. We haven't even done anything IC yet, and here you are, already asking for help. Nice.

As if . He has already informed me that he will attack once he has gotten rid of the rebellion ...

The Republic feels sorry for the outnumbered people of Mationbuds and hereby announces its support. A fleet of ten thousand witches on broomsticks are currently en-route to aid the beleaguered people, and will turn all their enemies into cheese that will feed the poor.

And now may I quote Chronosia by saying "PEW! PEW!"

The Republic feels sorry for the outnumbered people of Mationbuds and hereby announces its support. A fleet of ten thousand witches on broomsticks are currently en-route to aid the beleaguered people, and will turn all their enemies into cheese that will feed the poor.

And now may I quote Chronosia by saying "PEW! PEW!"


The Galactic Empire of Mationbuds is pleased that Taledonia has pledged it support for us . We will give you the thread URL when CoreWorlds decides to start the invasion .

I feel sad that you didn't catch that being a joke:(

I am not even sure if that playing around or was he being serious.

If it had been me then I would have said "Grilled Cheese Monsters shall be my instrument in conquering the universe. *Very long Evil laugh goes here.*"

A box of six (6) bananaphones have been sent to your location. They play the song when you have a call, ain't that nice? Instead of the harsh ringing made by one's big red phone of doom, the bad news came come to that little ditty!

"Oh noze! They are landing forces!"

"ring ring ring ring ring ring ring, bananaphone!"

*click* "Hello?"

"ALL UR BASE ARE BELONG TO US!"

Note to all that this is a serious threat . NO jokes .

So is fighting the Coreworlds even in a much large alliance!?!?!?

As if . He has already informed me that he will attack once he has gotten rid of the rebellion ...

Yes. OOCly. You are doing what Sith calls "metagaming" and what everyone else calls "using OOC info to IC benefit". More commonly known as "godmod", which is worthy of a skull bashing, or an ignore.

Plus, nobody is going to help you anyway.

I will because he is my ally.

You do, of course, realise that this entire thread is moot, right? CW has OOCly informed you, sure, but he hasn't IC moved. Thus, what you should really be doing is preparing OOCly so you can do this ICly when the time arises.

Course the boundaries of the GFFA boards being so loosely defined between IC and OOC has a way of making such things be issues. But we won't hold that against them :D

Now, you shall cease and desist this non-action before my Ignore Fleets of Mighty Retcon arrive, to go "PEW!PEW!PEW!" And undo this travesty :)

I will because he is my ally.

And that's so impressive. Will Seph be joining you to add to our headaches?

OOC: However, now that CW has posted, this thread has relevance. I may intervene with the usual tricks I have to counter CW :D

OOC: Haha! No. Unless you have RPed with detail and effort the espionage operations within Coreworlds, you won't be able to learn more than "I'm Mobilizing a Fleet to Fight the Empire". Which is entirely plausible considering I'm at war with said Galactic Empire.

As far as I'm concerned, your allies can't, nor won't, arrive until I have actually moved and attacked.

OOC: Haha! No. Unless you have RPed with detail and effort the espionage operations within Coreworlds, you won't be able to learn more than "I'm Mobilizing a Fleet to Fight the Empire". Which is entirely plausible considering I'm at war with said Galactic Empire.

As far as I'm concerned, your allies can't, nor won't, arrive until I have actually moved and attacked.

OCC: How will you get past his FTLi system? And due to the close proximdy, my FTL sensor bouys will detect you and get the warning out.

OCC: How will you get past his FTLi system? And due to the close proximdy, my FTL sensor bouys will detect you and get the warning out.


Well, we bypass it, by avoiding things affected by FTLi in the conventional sense. w00t for logic.

OCC: How will you get past his FTLi system? And due to the close proximdy, my FTL sensor bouys will detect you and get the warning out.
OOC: With FTLii systems. :p

Seriously, it won't matter once I invade because I know the word will get out anyway. As for the FTLi system, there's always holes in any system that I could exploit. Either that, power my way through the system or use Godulan craft to bypass the FTLi.

But what about my sensor bous? if a massive fleet was destected in hyperspace heading towards your ally's space would you tell them?

That's why I said it won't matter once I invade.

But what about my sensor bous? if a massive fleet was destected in hyperspace heading towards your ally's space would you tell them?

Who uses hyperspace? I sure as hell don't.

OOC: That's not the point. The point of this whole matter is that we don't care if you warn him because by the time your buoys detect us, he won't have time to much more than a token defense force before we begin to attack him. We can drop to realspace on the edges of the FTLi field and go in at sublight speed instead. It really doesn't make a difference, either way unless you can pull some impressively large allies out of your ass, the possibility of Mationbuds surviving this assault are next to nill.

Who uses hyperspace? I sure as hell don't.

I use hyperspace MM, but that's just because I'm stupid and conventional. :D

OOC: That's not the point. The point of this whole matter is that we don't care if you warn him because by the time your buoys detect us, he won't have time to much more than a token defense force before we begin to attack him. We can drop to realspace on the edges of the FTLi field and go in at sublight speed instead. It really doesn't make a difference, either way unless you can pull some impressively large allies out of your ass, the possibility of Mationbuds surviving this assault are next to nill.


What about a large number of smaller allies?

OOC: That's not the point. The point of this whole matter is that we don't care if you warn him because by the time your buoys detect us, he won't have time to much more than a token defense force before we begin to attack him. We can drop to realspace on the edges of the FTLi field and go in at sublight speed instead. It really doesn't make a difference, either way unless you can pull some impressively large allies out of your ass, the possibility of Mationbuds surviving this assault are next to nill.

OOC: Assuming his GE allies find it pertinant to intervene, that equals a few large decent allies.

OCC: How will you get past his FTLi system? And due to the close proximdy, my FTL sensor bouys will detect you and get the warning out.

By going under them.

As if . He has already informed me that he will attack once he has gotten rid of the rebellion ...
OOC: IIRC, isn't using OOC info like that IC'ly known as GMing?

OOC: IIRC, isn't using OOC info like that IC'ly known as GMing?
OOC: Points already been made, first page.

OOC: Assuming his GE allies find it pertinant to intervene, that equals a few large decent allies.
To be perfectly honest Chronosia, why would you or anyone else for that matter want to stick your neck out for the likes of Mationbuds. Now granted, I know that it would be a perfect chance to hit the GFFA whom the GE dislikes but why would you want to protect MB. It just doesn't make sense to help someone who essentially drags the GE's name through the mud, when you can just let us get rid of him for you and he'll take some of our forces with him in the process.

OOC: One need not show all his cards at the first hand, save to say that the Management have some interest in whats going on down at ground level. A chance, again, to hurt the GFFA, especially during a treacherous, dangerous time. A chance to go after the Masaki's once more, and of course, the simple reason that we support and try to rehabilitate our allies who suffer from, for lack of better words, n00bish tendencies.

We don't send them on their merry ways like little Seaquest's ;)

OOC: One need not show all his cards at the first hand, save to say that the Management have some interest in whats going on down at ground level. A chance, again, to hurt the GFFA, especially during a treacherous, dangerous time. A chance to go after the Masaki's once more, and of course, the simple reason that we support and try to rehabilitate our allies who suffer from, for lack of better words, n00bish tendencies.

We don't send them on their merry ways like little Seaquest's ;)
I had nothing to do with SQ. I had enough sense to realize that saying something either way wasn't worth the aggravation. I see your point however, even if I don't agree with it. Sometimes you just have to cut a person loose though.

OOC: Haha! No. Unless you have RPed with detail and effort the espionage operations within Coreworlds, you won't be able to learn more than "I'm Mobilizing a Fleet to Fight the Empire". Which is entirely plausible considering I'm at war with said Galactic Empire.

As far as I'm concerned, your allies can't, nor won't, arrive until I have actually moved and attacked.

OOC: dont be so sure the Phenixican Empire has a small force there already. Due to the Matenbuds.

OOC:Your welcome i hate it when huge nations pick on us little guys anyway.

I would like to thank all who would assist me in defending my nation and we will be eternally indebted and grateful to you . The thread URL is http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=496562 . And to CW , you cant just go under FTLi ...

((OOC: Hasn't it been stated you don't even know about it yet? Plus, even if you did, if I were you, I'd sue for peace. Logically the GE and all of your allies won't pledge 100% of their resources to defend you, a relatively small power on the galactic tough-guy chart, plus you're in a quagmire of a civil war as it is and the guys invaded you are in pretty good shape.

It doesn't look good for you.))

Ill pleage all resources.

Like i said i hate big guys attacking little guys and thinking it's honorable.

Ill pleage all resources.

Like i said i hate big guys attacking little guys and thinking it's honorable.
((OOC: Do you really think this is a good way to run your nation? Cotnributing all of your military to defend an international small fry against a multitude of powers that will probably just end up wiping the floor with you at the end of the day? Honestly, what do your citizens think of that bollocks?))

OOC: Ho yes and i suppose my populance would love being a puppet to some USA wannabe.

OOC: Ho yes and i suppose my populance would love being a puppet to some USA wannabe.
((OOC: Which is exactly what will happen if you meddle too much in the upcoming invasion when you end up conquered.))

OOC: Better to resist enslavement, Then allow it to take over.

My people were enslaved ages ago and will not accept being conquered.

Conquer me but i will never be a puppet, I will resist and rebel every time i can.

Anything for the right for every citizen out there to be free.

Besides im in a Defence pact with Mationbuds it's a disgrace in Phenixican Culture to not honor such a promise.

OOC: Better to resist enslavement, Then allow it to take over.

My people were enslaved ages ago and will not accept being conquered.

Conquer me but i will never be a puppet, I will resist and rebel every time i can.

Anything for the right for every citizen out there to be free.

Besides im in a Defence pact with Mationbuds it's a disgrace in Phenixican Culture to not honor such a promise.
There is a difference between helping to defend someone with military or financial aide, and outright lunacy what with the comminiting your whole country to war at the behest of another nation (making yourself a puppet to a defense treaty, one that does not act in your own best interests in this case).

Plus, you seem to fail to realize that resist or no, you will still end up decimated and unable to help anyone at the end of this fiasco if things go in the invading parties favor. So trying to play the Churchill card really isn't smart.

Also, MB, it's metagaming to be moving your fleets around to defend agaisnt an attack you do not know about yet.

The Galactic Empire of Mationbuds's spies and Intelligence Operatives have uncovered a plan to invade us by CoreWorlds . Although our navies have had brushes with each other before and understand each other's tactics , they outnumber us by quite a margin . Therefore we appeal to all to assist us in our defence to repel and drive back such invasions .

If their assault fails , a possible offensive could be considered to strike them back for the damage they dealt . We really urge all to help .

Regards ,
Martin Luther , Grand Adviser 2



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To: Grand Adviser Martin Luther
From: The Grand Shadow Emperor and The Imperial Archducal Court.
Subject: Military Assistance

The Grand Shadow Imperium of Deatharon has finally received your transmission and in response we have this to say. The Imperial Archducal Court and myself find that helping you in this time of crisis would be beneficial to The Grand Shadow Imperium's current goals.


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Joranhor']((OOC: Do you really think this is a good way to run your nation? Cotnributing all of your military to defend an international small fry against a multitude of powers that will probably just end up wiping the floor with you at the end of the day? Honestly, what do your citizens think of that bollocks?))

OOC : Wow , look who's talking here . Calling others a small fry when you yourself are one .

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To: Grand Adviser Martin Luther
From: The Grand Shadow Emperor and The Imperial Archducal Court.
Subject: Military Assistance

The Grand Shadow Imperium of Deatharon has finally received your transmission and in response we have this to say. The Imperial Archducal Court and myself find that helping you in this time of crisis would be beneficial to The Grand Shadow Imperium's current goals.


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The Galactic Empire of Mationbuds would be grateful if the Imperial Archducal Court would assist us in this time of crisis to repel off the barbarian Coredian Invaders .

OOC : Wow , look who's talking here . Calling others a small fry when you yourself are one .

Amazing that you were able to figure that out, and amazing still you thought it relevant. Afterall, my size matters lickspittle to this conversation in any way shape or form, but yours does. I infact note your 'retort' only affirms that you are indeed a small fry in the international market, and I shudder to think as to why so many are willing to throw their nations into ruin for you.

Joranhor']Amazing that you were able to figure that out, and amazing still you thought it relevant. Afterall, my size matters lickspittle to this conversation in any way shape or form, but yours does. I infact note your 'retort' only affirms that you are indeed a small fry in the international market, and I shudder to think as to why so many are willing to throw their nations into ruin for you.

OOC :

As I stated , this is a serious thread and not one for arguements . You are not invited to participate in this thread and please leave or I will ask the mods to do so for you . Delete all your posts too .

OOC : Wow , look who's talking here . Calling others a small fry when you yourself are one .

Yeah, because, if you're five feet tall, and you call another five-foot person short (in comparison to the fifteen feet people that would count as nations in this analogy), it's telling the truth.

OOC : Wow , look who's talking here . Calling others a small fry when you yourself are one .

Exactly he is a puppet.

Getting every nation to screw him over and he does not what to say anything because he has been brainwashed into thinking 'Quanity beats Quality'.

Yeah, because, if you're five feet tall, and you call another five-foot person short (in comparison to the fifteen feet people that would count as nations in this analogy), it's telling the truth.

Yes but someone who is 5 feet tall and pretends to be 6 is acting bigger then you are.

Im not doing that i know i might lose thats how i treat every war, Does not mean i will be a pushover.

[ooc: Tag for possible involvement at a later date...depending on my mood.]

[ooc: Tag for possible involvement at a later date...depending on my mood.]

On which side might you join ?

Exactly he is a puppet.

Getting every nation to screw him over and he does not what to say anything because he has been brainwashed into thinking 'Quanity beats Quality'.

I've never seen anything even remotely resembling quality from you for one thing, two, you will not from history that it is rare for smaller nationstates to beat larger ones in a war. That's just history. The only time numerically superior forces are defeated is either due to poor leadership, bad supply lines, poor morale, or maybe even that they're attacking with sticks when everyone else has guns.

Yes but someone who is 5 feet tall and pretends to be 6 is acting bigger then you are.

Im not doing that i know i might lose thats how i treat every war, Does not mean i will be a pushover.
At no point have I insisted my superiority to anyone here, I have just pointed out your abhorrent stupidity in throwing your whole nation in the path of a freight train for someone you could live without.

MB can you please edit your mobilization post in the thread. You have been told once already that unless you create a thread that describes how you found out about CW's attack you have no reason to put your fleets on alert. Using OOC information ICly is a GM, you have been told that as well.

Also, exactly how many ships do you yourself plan on contributing? As of right now, the count stands at a little over 4000 ships just from you. I would like to point out at this juncture that you are about 2000 ships above what your nation could realistically hope to support.

OOC: I know certain details through discreet auguries that have revealed that the sons of Masaki shall march to war against one who is allied with, or is a member of, the Empire. That there shall be much bloodshed and much recrimination, and we've decided to wait and watch until it happens, and even then may content ourselves with doing so. :D

OOC :

The Emperor has personally assured me that for every ship I loose , 1000 Jurains will be killed . I advise CoreWorlds to pull back his forces or there will be much blood shed . As I said , my nation alone can support 2000 plus ships . I have 2 vassals which total up is slightly larger than me . So logically speaking I would be able to support 4000 plus ships .

Secondly as I said , the Force is powerful . Powerful Jedis like Yoda could forsee the future that a great Jedi would awaken and he would meet with Jabba the Hutt and that came through . So my Sith , who is more powerful than Yoda , would be logically speaking able to forsee a invasion .

So you're trying to tell the future, is that it? That is total disgusting wank and I am doubtless CW will not accept it.

Joranhor']So you're trying to tell the future, is that it? That is total disgusting wank and I am doubtless CW will not accept it.

It is not wank .I can tell that you are not a Star Wars fan . But excuse me , if you cant live with it , then dont .Anyways how'd you ever get involved with this ??? And didnt I already tell you not to interfere unless providing some useful stuff .

OOC: With FTLii systems. :p

Seriously, it won't matter once I invade because I know the word will get out anyway. As for the FTLi system, there's always holes in any system that I could exploit. Either that, power my way through the system or use Godulan craft to bypass the FTLi.

While not taking part in this, the easiest way to deal with a system-wide FTLi field composed of many individual projectors, would be simply to deal with them via long range C-frac strikes, or send in strike groups to take one out and open up holes conventionally.

OOC :

The Emperor has personally assured me that for every ship I loose , 1000 Jurains will be killed . I advise CoreWorlds to pull back his forces or there will be much blood shed . As I said , my nation alone can support 2000 plus ships . I have 2 vassals which total up is slightly larger than me . So logically speaking I would be able to support 4000 plus ships.

Some would call this puppetwanking. Hell, everyone would call it puppetwanking. But far be it from me to accuse you of knowing the rules of NS, or even using them, from time to time.

OOC: Points already been made, first page.
OOC: Yeah, my bad. I was half asleep when I made that post and post you referenced didn't fully register until today as I just went through it with a clearer head.

@All: Enough with the damn dick measuring contests! Get on with the frilling RP!

@MB: Dude, if you are going to use puppets to provide your defense, then RP as them, not yourself. And remember, the general consensus on NS is 1,000 standard cap ships per every 1 billion in population.
And drop this whole Temporal Tech aspect of the Force. I don't recall seeing your name on the Temporal Accord, so you're just asking for a TA member, such as myself, to step in.
As for that "for ship you lose, 1,000 Jurainians will die" line you posted, proove it! Unless US actually posts that IC'ly, there is no way you can support that insane claim.

OOC: Technically scrying the future really wouldn't count as Temporal tech. I have my methods, through the Emperor's Tarot and other rituals most bloody (Such as having my Astropaths cast bones or read entrails (Gotta love a good Haruspex) but I deliberately kept the details vague since I knew CW didn't want immediate intervention.

That and Mationbuds hardly registers on the scale of knowledge, while "Empire" and "Masaki" register quite high :D

Technically you scried and left it vague while MB claimed to know what would positively happen:

OOC: I know certain details through discreet auguries that have revealed that the sons of Masaki shall march to war against one who is allied with, or is a member of, the Empire. That there shall be much bloodshed and much recrimination, and we've decided to wait and watch until it happens, and even then may content ourselves with doing so.

Secondly as I said , the Force is powerful . Powerful Jedis like Yoda could forsee the future that a great Jedi would awaken and he would meet with Jabba the Hutt and that came through . So my Sith , who is more powerful than Yoda , would be logically speaking able to forsee a invasion .

There is a definate difference between those two examples.

(Stop wanking, you're making a mess.)

OOC: Seeing the future??? Dude, that is the big godmode I have ever heard of. That is like time travel but move forwards in time and not to the past.

*Hit head on desk*

I hope CW does not go with the crazy see the future part.

This entire situation is an OOC mess. The details of wank between Mationbuds and Coreworlds are to be between Mationbuds and Coreworlds. Those that have no interest in this thread should not be posting in it.

The Empire will watch and wait until we have direct IC actions from the rebellion.

The Empire will watch and wait until we have direct IC actions from the rebellion.

Now, that is how you do it. Every needs to follow what you do.

OOC :

The Emperor has personally assured me that for every ship I loose , 1000 Jurains will be killed . I advise CoreWorlds to pull back his forces or there will be much blood shed . As I said , my nation alone can support 2000 plus ships . I have 2 vassals which total up is slightly larger than me . So logically speaking I would be able to support 4000 plus ships .

Secondly as I said , the Force is powerful . Powerful Jedis like Yoda could forsee the future that a great Jedi would awaken and he would meet with Jabba the Hutt and that came through . So my Sith , who is more powerful than Yoda , would be logically speaking able to forsee a invasion .
Force Farsight is far from infallible. I want you to go back and watch The Empire Strikes Back, especially the part where Yoda teaches Luke how to see in the future. Remember, the future is always in motion, and what may be may not be if a different choice is made.

As for Sith ability to farsee, Palpatine in Return of the Jedi is more powerful than Yoda and yet he didn't even see Darth Vader betray him and throw him down that reactor shaft, so don't give me any bull about you being able to divine from future sight my invasion plot. The best you would be able to pick up from the Force (at this point) is that the GFFA is gearing up for yet another fight with the Empire. I will not allow any attempts at using the Force to see my plots, for it will simply be ignored. I never do such things, so why should anyone else try to slip such godmods past me?

New IC thread forthcoming soon.

OOC :

The Emperor has personally assured me that for every ship I loose , 1000 Jurains will be killed . I advise CoreWorlds to pull back his forces or there will be much blood shed .

This statement is completely irrelevant to the thread, and therefore is unnecessary.

As I said , my nation alone can support 2000 plus ships . I have 2 vassals which total up is slightly larger than me . So logically speaking I would be able to support 4000 plus ships .

Now the wankery has evolved to a whole new level of bullshit. Using puppets to augment your forces in the numbers you are suggesting is blatant puppet wank.

Secondly as I said , the Force is powerful . Powerful Jedis like Yoda could forsee the future that a great Jedi would awaken and he would meet with Jabba the Hutt and that came through . So my Sith , who is more powerful than Yoda , would be logically speaking able to forsee a invasion .

First and foremost, the Force may be powerful but no one can see the future. At best, foresight through the Force is received in little blips, not complete knowledge of anything and everything. It is also much more generalized than you are claiming. Not to mention, even a slight deviation in the actions of one person can drastically change the future. Therefore, saying that you know exactly what will happen is a GM in the most extreme sense.

Did you happen to read the stickys that teach you how to RP before you actually tried to write something? If you did, I think you need to re-read them until you grasp exactly how to put an acceptable RP together.

Oh and not to be a jackass or anything but I believe that the plural for Jedi is Jedi not Jedis. This comment has nothing to do with the thread either but my patience is being sorely tested at this point and we haven't even started yet.

What I find odd, is the GFFA mobilising for a war with a new enemy while they're currently being invaded by an outside alliance. Now without sounding too much like a normal tactician surely this is alliance suicide?

Beta Aurigae VII calm down and stop being too aggressive. Mationbuds does not deserve the above slandering and as I said before the premise for this RP is between him and Coreworlds, your input was hardly needed nor desired.

Your entire post was one large flame, not needed. Mationbuds has been nothing but polite through this whole thing, and you come in dragging mud along the carpet.

Delete your post and re-write it so you at least appear to be on that high horse which you're currently riding.

What I find odd, is the GFFA mobilising for a war with a new enemy while they're currently being invaded by an outside alliance. Now without sounding too much like a normal tactician surely this is alliance suicide?

Beta Aurigae VII calm down and stop being too aggressive. Mationbuds does not deserve the above slandering and as I said before the premise for this RP is between him and Coreworlds, your input was hardly needed nor desired.

Your entire post was one large flame, not needed. Mationbuds has been nothing but polite through this whole thing, and you come in dragging mud along the carpet.

Delete your post and re-write it so you at least appear to be on that high horse which you're currently riding.

What I said was the truth and no more. I'm sorry that you feel I was flaming MB and yes, a few of my remarks were flamebait and I apologize for those. However, he has yet to show anything that resembles trying to follow the rules and it is that fact that gets me a little on the angry side. Also, since my nation is involved in this as well, my input is just as important as yours. I am entitled to my opinion and you to yours and I would thank you to remember that.

Very well, since we are playing the rules of II, let us play realistic alliance politics and governmental policy shall we?

Right now the GFFA is under invasion of the big nasty ESUS alliance. And the GFFA decides to go to war with another alliance making a rather suicidal foreign policy.

The GFFA will not be able to retaliate in kind, due to other pressing Inter Alliance wars.

The GFFA resources will be and are stretched to the maximum along with Coreworlds himself who is currently in a three front war. Mationbuds, Unified Sith and the ESUS.

Tell me, just how are nations supposed to RP their resources again?

You are all just as guilty as Mationbuds and claiming superiority in the rules of Roleplay is hypocrisy, so unless you wish Mationbuds to call realistic roleplay, just as you are doing then I would advise you to keep your tone polite.

True that. We're stretched and we're going to pay for it.

So a sudden attack, on GFFA space would be very effective correct?

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Very well, since we are playing the rules of II, let us play realistic alliance politics and governmental policy shall we?

Right now the GFFA is under invasion of the big nasty ESUS alliance. And the GFFA decides to go to war with another alliance making a rather suicidal foreign policy.

The GFFA will not be able to retaliate in kind, due to other pressing Inter Alliance wars.

The GFFA resources will be and are stretched to the maximum along with Coreworlds himself who is currently in a three front war. Mationbuds, Unified Sith and the ESUS.

Tell me, just how are nations supposed to RP their resources again?

You are all just as guilty as Mationbuds and claiming superiority in the rules of Roleplay is hypocrisy, so unless you wish Mationbuds to call realistic roleplay, just as you are doing then I would advise you to keep your tone polite.


My resources are in fine shape because as you will notice, I have declined to be invovled in the ESUS war. I cannot speak for the others, but I am quite able to send the forces that I have.

Since you asked, nations are supposed to RP their resources as realistically as possible. As I said before, I cannot speak for other nations but it seems to me that nations of both sides are not happy with the way MB has RP'd his resources.

As far as realistic Alliance policies go, if that were really the case we wouldn't even have this problem because in RL, modern alliances are not built for the sole purpose of warmongering as the ones on NS are (the GFFA included). And realistic government policies would prevent a nation from sending 75% of its population to go to war. My tone has been quite polite aside from the post that contained some flaming, but I think that we have all been a victim of our temper at some point.

However, I can see that by this point it doesn't matter what either of us say because we won't convince each other. Therefore, maybe it is just best to drop the subject.

So a sudden attack, on GFFA space would be very effective correct?

Depending upon who you attack and where you attack them, yes it would.

So a sudden attack, on GFFA space would be very effective correct?

Just becareful where you strike or this could become a three-way slugfest...

There are some hot spots out there you might want to avoid unless the slugfest is your goal.

I have a small allaince that issime allied to a nother small allince which mationbuds is a part of. so basicly, its a loose allaince of about 10+ nations of around a billion. which ofcaurse coulkd form up into a strong oppenent.

Force Farsight is far from infallible. I want you to go back and watch The Empire Strikes Back, especially the part where Yoda teaches Luke how to see in the future. Remember, the future is always in motion, and what may be may not be if a different choice is made.

As for Sith ability to farsee, Palpatine in Return of the Jedi is more powerful than Yoda and yet he didn't even see Darth Vader betray him and throw him down that reactor shaft, so don't give me any bull about you being able to divine from future sight my invasion plot. The best you would be able to pick up from the Force (at this point) is that the GFFA is gearing up for yet another fight with the Empire. I will not allow any attempts at using the Force to see my plots, for it will simply be ignored. I never do such things, so why should anyone else try to slip such godmods past me?

New IC thread forthcoming soon.


Yes , agreeable that the future can be changed at any moment . However Palpatine did have doubts about Vader and therefore had 2 Emperor Hands , one of which was Mara Jade .

Next , I said my Emperor knew that an invasion was comming , but that was only what he foresaw . If it changed , then so be it .

Of course, having two emperor's hands didn't exactly help him in the clinch, did it? Big thing being you may be able to see the future, but unfortunately it turns out that the future built your prescience into the equation and so any attempt to change it actually plays into fate's hands.

Ya gotta watch that prescience thing.

Who uses hyperspace? I sure as hell don't.

Not that I'm involved or anything, but I don't either.

Yay for tesserection!:D :p