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Alrighty folks. This should be interesting. Basicly, we're going to try a Middle Earth type RP. Folks'll be in charge of their own factions, and roleplaying is very heavily encouraged.

For example, King Théoden sends a patrol to the west to make sure that the Dunlendings aren't entering Rohan's lands. Rohan's player could do roleplay based around the soldiers on the patrol, or even interact with whoever is playing Dunlend in battle.

The setting is going to be in the yearss leading up to when Bilbo passes the ring on to Frodo, so by the time we get settled and into a rythem, we can discuss wether or not we want Frodo to embark on his journey, or maybe just stay home in The Shire, which means Sauron is still looking for the ring.

Rules:
1) Activity is required. If you can't be active, don't sign up because you -will- be replaced for inactivity.

2) Realism. The county of Bree wouldn't be able to field an army of millions.

3) Please try to read up (There's tons of sources online) on the faction you choose, so you know what the heck you're doing.

Suggested Factions: (Not a complete list. Feel free to request any faction you choose. You are even able to design your own, provided you have a backstory.)

Men of Bree -
Gondor - The Xeno - Gondorian Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11560604&posted=1#post11560604)
Rohan - The Scandinvans - Rohan Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11565214#post11565214)
Mordor - 1010102 - Mordor Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=496473)
Dunlend - Labalui - Dunlend Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=496623)
Horde of Moria (This is after the mine was overrun.) - Breitenburg - Moria Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11559609#post11559609)
Isenguard - Chronosia
Northmen (Pick a tribe) -
Easterlings - The Dominion of Sweden - Easterling Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11563773#post11563773)
Central Mirkwood - Fallen Elves - Maldorian
Iron Mountains/Ered Mithrin Dwarves - New Dracora
Erebor/Lonely Mountains Dwarves - New Dracora
Ered Luin/Blue Mountains Dwarves - Zelron - Blue Mountain Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11571258#post11571258)
Rivendell - DMG - Rivendell Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=496626)
Lothlorien - Bekhaera
The Shire - Kubra
Woodland Realm Elves (North Mirkwood) - Ravea
Corsairs of Umbar - 3117 soup - Umbar Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11573552#post11573552)

RP THREAD: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11546973#post11546973

Note, this list is just some of the possibilities you could choose. They're most of the bigger factions.

me want teh orks!(Mordor)

I might join, but i'll have to 'read up' as you say. I'm not really up to date on the Lord of the Rings stuff.

I'm definately in!

I am going to pick one of the elves most likely, give me a minute.

I think I will probably take the Sindarin Elves in Rivendell, but do you know where I can find more information on the different elves (like size, manpower, etc.) besides wiki and lotr-wiki?

Isengard. Me. Now. Bitch :P

Isengard. Me. Now. Bitch :P

Somehow, that is fitting... :P

I think I will probably take the Sindarin Elves in Rivendell, but do you know where I can find more information on the different elves (like size, manpower, etc.) besides wiki and lotr-wiki?

Wiki is where I tend to get my information. Tell you what, since we're not following an -exact- setting, we can just use common sense to make things fun and playable.

Give me a minute while I update folks.

1010102, are you sure you can stay active? Mordor is really important.

Chronosia approved, and DMG approved.

I was also thinking up using a stats system, if you guys think it's a good idea. Basicly it'd give a set statistic for manpower, engineering (Sort of the determination of how well your race builds siege equipment and weapons and such), culture, and some other things.

How does that sound? Imput is always helpful.

I'll take the Easterlings Please.

Am i allowed to not ally with mordor and help other 'good factions'

Lothlorien

I figured it'd look something like this, mainly so folks aren't blindly going about this.

Manpower, - a growing/declining number representing the citizens and denizens of your faction.
Engineering, - a scale number that represents how well you build weapons/equipment.
Culture, - a scale number that represents how well you build cities and fortifications.
Farming, - a scale number for how well you grow crops and tend your land, (Obviously a better score means more population growth)
Magic, - a scale number for how powerful the magicians of your culture (From goblin shamen to elven wizards) can become.

We could include more or take some out or not even use it at all. I just think it'd be a useful sort of guide for folks.

I'll take the Easterlings Please.

Am i allowed to not ally with mordor and help other 'good factions'

Well. The Easterlings have traditionally had a massive hatred for Gondor. Mostly their alliance with Mordor was one of convience, because Mordor and the Easterling tribes share a common enemy.

If you want the Easterlings, you'll need to be active.

And Bekhaera, you'll need to be active to play Lothlorien. It's pretty important.

Can you both agree to that?

Wiki is where I tend to get my information. Tell you what, since we're not following an -exact- setting, we can just use common sense to make things fun and playable.

Give me a minute while I update folks.

1010102, are you sure you can stay active? Mordor is really important.

Chronosia approved, and DMG approved.

I try and be on more than once a day but the forum probelms still haven't been fied so if i can't get on it will be from that.

I was also thinking up using a stats system, if you guys think it's a good idea. Basicly it'd give a set statistic for manpower, engineering (Sort of the determination of how well your race builds siege equipment and weapons and such), culture, and some other things.

How does that sound? Imput is always helpful.

I think that sounds good.

I figured it'd look something like this, mainly so folks aren't blindly going about this.

Manpower, - a growing/declining number representing the citizens and denizens of your faction.
Engineering, - a scale number that represents how well you build weapons/equipment.
Culture, - a scale number that represents how well you build cities and fortifications.
Farming, - a scale number for how well you grow crops and tend your land, (Obviously a better score means more population growth)
Magic, - a scale number for how powerful the magicians of your culture (From goblin shamen to elven wizards) can become.

We could include more or take some out or not even use it at all. I just think it'd be a useful sort of guide for folks.

That is a solid start. Also, would training/skill come into effect for soldiers. Obviously elves are better arches than most, orcs tend to rely on more brute strength, humans are a little everything, dwarves are good melee, etc.

Also, maybe I am inmagining this, but Rivendell seems a little small. Sort of a small quaint town without an army really.

I try and be on more than once a day but the forum probelms still haven't been fied so if i can't get on it will be from that.

Approved...

I can agree to that, im on here pretty muhc every day for a few hours

What time is this happening?before or during the movies?

Also, maybe I am inmagining this, but Rivendell seems a little small. Sort of a small quaint town without an army really.

Well, you're not controlling just Rivendell, but the territory around it as well. There are small towns and villages and such, and a decent community of elves on the outskirts. Rivendell isn't huge, but it's pretty big for an elven city.

I think I remember reading somewhere that Rivendell could field a decent sized army. Remember, the elves can muster large numbers of quality warriors. The strength of the Elves is that they unite together for fighting off the enemy. Lothlorien, North Mirkwood and Rivendell have strong alliances.

* edit
* In the Last Alliance of Elves and Men, the elves fielded over 130,000 troops.

What time is this happening?before or during the movies?

Somewhat before. The ring is "dormant" currently, IE: Bilbo hasn't put it on yet. Since NS time seems to go by pretty fast, we're starting a year or two before the beginning of the movies.

Basicly, the ring is in Bilbo's possession, Aragorn is wandering around the north. Gondor and Mordor are fighting each other as usual. The Mines of Moria are under the control of goblins and orcs. Isenguard has been corrupted.

And so on.

I can agree to that, im on here pretty muhc every day for a few hours

Approved. :)

Has anyone have any idea on how many orcs i have?

Well, you're not controlling just Rivendell, but the territory around it as well. There are small towns and villages and such, and a decent community of elves on the outskirts. Rivendell isn't huge, but it's pretty big for an elven city.

I think I remember reading somewhere that Rivendell could field a decent sized army. Remember, the elves can muster large numbers of quality warriors. The strength of the Elves is that they unite together for fighting off the enemy. Lothlorien, North Mirkwood and Rivendell have strong alliances.

Alright, cool. I will deal with that. Because the town itself is quite small. Rivendell was built as a hidden refuge and is probably home to no more than fifty elves (judging by the amount and size of the buildings). Even the area it controls is small though. I guess I will just say that it can raise a good sized, well trained army.

Has anyone have any idea on how many orcs i have?

Certainly a LOT less than in the movies based on when this is set.

Alright, cool. I will deal with that. Because the town itself is quite small. Rivendell was built as a hidden refuge and is probably home to no more than fifty elves (judging by the amount and size of the buildings). Even the area it controls is small though. I guess I will just say that it can raise a good sized, well trained army.

Yeah, as you were typing this I made an edit on my post above. Basicly, the elves fielded over 100,000 troops during the Siege of Barad-dûr.

1010102: Well, at Mordor's height during the Second Age, he was able to field about 750,000 orcs, 500,000 of which fought against the elves and men at Dagorlad. There's nothing I can find about how many trolls and goblins there were.

Basicly, Mordor has been really understrength for years and years. Mordor is just now getting back up to strength, but they lose troops every year in skirmishes with Gondor.

Also, I added a link to the IC thread at the bottom of the first post.

Yeah, as you were typing this I made an edit on my post above. Basicly, the elves fielded over 100,000 troops during the Siege of Barad-dûr.

Ah, but Rivendell is not all of the elves. In fact, it is probably the smallest.

Anyway, where did you get that info from?

Ah, but Rivendell is not all of the elves. In fact, it is probably the smallest.

Anyway, where did you get that info from?

I recall seeing it in that addendum that JRR did. And no, Rivendell isn't all of the elves. I'd say meh, they could probably put a fair amount forward. Lorien and Mirkwood elves are primarily archers. Rivendell fields the most infantry out of the other elves.

I recall seeing it in that addendum that JRR did. And no, Rivendell isn't all of the elves. I'd say meh, they could probably put a fair amount forward. Lorien and Mirkwood elves are primarily archers. Rivendell fields the most infantry out of the other elves.

Alright... I will think on the matter and make something up.

Alright... I will think on the matter and make something up.

That's about the best we can hope for. JRR didn't really give a ton of description for numbers and such.

That's about the best we can hope for. JRR didn't really give a ton of description for numbers and such.

Damn that linguist! *shakes fist*

la~bump. We could use a few more people.

Definately. I need some more elven bretheren.

will this be before, during, or after the war of the ring?

will this be before, during, or after the war of the ring?

This occurring two years before the events of the movies. So before the War of the Ring.

This occurring two years before the events of the movies. So before the War of the Ring.

It won't exclude the war, however. Players set the pace of the game.

A question. I assume the Hordes of Moria are the goblins, right? Would they have a bunch of monsters to use like they do in Battle for Middle Earth II? I might be interested in that faction.

I'll go for the Mirkwood elves.

I'll go for the Mirkwood elves.

North Mirkwood or Central? Central elves are corrupted.

North Mirkwood or Central? Central elves are corrupted.

Northern, please.

Northern, please.

Approved.

A question. I assume the Hordes of Moria are the goblins, right? Would they have a bunch of monsters to use like they do in Battle for Middle Earth II? I might be interested in that faction.

Battle for Middle Earth II? Is that a video game?

From what I remember, it's mostly goblins mixed with orcs. There are cave trolls as well. The eastern wing of the mine is under the control of a balrog, however.

Just a couple more folks and we can start. Please subscribe to this thread and the IC thread. (Link is in the first post.)

Just a couple more folks and we can start. Please subscribe to this thread and the IC thread. (Link is in the first post.)

Do you want us to put up little factbooks and stuff or what?

Do you want us to put up little factbooks and stuff or what?

Start preparing for that, yes. Once we get started, I'm going to post a master list of links to the factbooks.

Things you'll need for your factbook:

.Types of soldiers your faction will field and military strength. (Examples are elven archers, elven infantry, goblin infantry, goblin berserkers, etc.)

.Your faction's capital city.

.Your faction's leader. (If there's no cannon that you can find naming a leader for your faction, then make one up.)

.A realistic number for your population. Again, if you can't find any solid information just ask and we'll help you.

Can I be Rohan?

Can I be Rohan?

Approved.

Thanks.

Name: Rohan
Ruler Name: Theoden
Population: 250,000
Army: 12,000 Spear Rohirrim, 8,000 Archer Rohirrim, and a number of reservists.

Is that good for a quick description?

Nation Name:Mirkwood
Ruler:Thranduil
Population:160,000
Army:16,000 Elven Archers, 6,000 Elven Infintry, 1,000 Elvish Cavalry

How should i do mine? i don't think there are civilian orcss.

Maybe you should do laborer/slave orcs included as someone has to mine the metal for the weapons.

Maybe you should do laborer/slave orcs included as someone has to mine the metal for the weapons.

Yeah, that would be a good idea.

Remember, the factbooks are going to be more detailed than four short lines (hopefully!), so be creative and descriptive.

Yeah, that would be a good idea.

Remember, the factbooks are going to be more detailed than four short lines (hopefully!), so be creative and descriptive.

Indeed.

Start getting your information together guys, if we can get another person or two, we'll be starting tonight, probably. If we can't get anyone else, I guess we can start tommorow night.

bump

I think I'll be the Hordes of Moria, but another question. Can my leader be the Balrog or is that to powerful?

I think I'll be the Hordes of Moria, but another question. Can my leader be the Balrog or is that to powerful?

The Balrog is an independant creature. It actually rules part of the eastern wing of the mine, and the goblins/orcs avoid it. I don't plan on allowing anyone to play it, it's simply too strong.

The Balrog is an independant creature. It actually rules part of the eastern wing of the mine, and the goblins/orcs avoid it. I don't plan on allowing anyone to play it, it's simply too strong.

Not to mention SWEET!

It makes it more interesting if there are strong, independent, unaffiliated monsters out there.

can i take Mirkwood

The Balrog is an independant creature. It actually rules part of the eastern wing of the mine, and the goblins/orcs avoid it. I don't plan on allowing anyone to play it, it's simply too strong.

yeah I thought so... Oh well. I'll still play as the Hordes of Moria. I'll make an army and whatnot later.

Nobody wants to be the dwarves... :(

Baruk Kazad. Kazad ai-menu.

what races are left???

The Dwarves are still left.

yeah I thought so... Oh well. I'll still play as the Hordes of Moria. I'll make an army and whatnot later.

Approved.

what races are left???

Uh, well. There's still 3 races of dwarves, corsairs, corrupted elves, Dunlend, Bree, the Shire.

Announcement

Okay guys. We're starting tonight. What I need is the following,

1) Check in here in this thread to confirm that you're still playing.

2) A factbook. I've decided not to use the "manpower, economy, magic" stats thing. Just use common sense. Wiki is a good source of information. Remember, you just need a basic factbook to begin with. Your factbook can change radicly once you've invested time. Your race goes where YOU want it to as far as gameplay.

3) Post a link to your factbook, and I'll add the links to the front page.

4) As of now, feel free to begin posting in the IC thread, which is on the front page.

-- I'm going to be very busy tonight, so I'll get to posting your factbooks as I have time.

(Not that you need it but...) I am here and still playing.

Not to mention SWEET!

It makes it more interesting if there are strong, independent, unaffiliated monsters out there.


Wouldn't it be under the control of sauron?

Wouldn't it be under the control of sauron?

Why would it be?

hasn't he used them before?

I don't believe so. Morgoth used them, but then they were all destroyed. This one in the mines is the only remaining one and it is in hiding. He's a loner.

Factbook for the Hordes of Moria can be found here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11559609#post11559609).

I'll take the Corsairs of Umbar.

I'll take the Corsairs of Umbar.

Approved.

can i take Mirkwood

Central Mirkwood is what's available. Approved.

Cool, any idea how many men they could feild. or what language base i should use for their names. there isn't much on them.

Cool, any idea how many men they could feild. or what language base i should use for their names. there isn't much on them.

Unless I'm terribly mistaken, they speak in a corrupted form of elven. As to the armies, I'm not sure how many. They're basicly wicked elves that live among huge, deadly spiders. I think they've been known to ride the spiders into battle as well. Just do a realistic number.

Unless I'm terribly mistaken, they speak in a corrupted form of elven. As to the armies, I'm not sure how many. They're basicly wicked elves that live among huge, deadly spiders. I think they've been known to ride the spiders into battle as well. Just do a realistic number.

are we talking about the same corsairs of umbar? The decendants of the numenor. once ocupied by gondor. saved by the men harad. Great sailors and pirates.

are we talking about the same corsairs of umbar? The decendants of the numenor. once ocupied by gondor. saved by the men harad. Great sailors and pirates.

Mmkay. I just approved the other guy for corrupted Mirkwood. My mistake. :)

As to the rest, well honestly? I'm not real sure about the numbers and names and such. I reccomend just being sensible.

Announcement

I shouldn't have to say this, but do not post in peoples' factbooks. It ruins the format.

ok, thanks anyways.

Announcement

I shouldn't have to say this, but do not post in peoples' factbooks. It ruins the format.

Agreed... unfortunately so many people do not realize this.

Announcement

I shouldn't have to say this, but do not post in peoples' factbooks. It ruins the format.

I deleted it, and it was a joke.

Announcement

I shouldn't have to say this, but do not post in peoples' factbooks. It ruins the format.

Got it. Damn, your factbook destroys mine. Might have to make some renovations later...

I deleted it, and it was a joke.

The thing is, it's supposed to be linuar. >.> I need meh, 2-3 more pages for my military on there.

Got it. Damn, your factbook destroys mine. Might have to make some renovations later...

Wikipedia is your friend.

Wikipedia is your friend.

lol, I don't think I will be able to find that much on Rivendell on wikipedia or lotr-wikia. I may just have to include a lot about the elves in general or Elrond.

lol, I don't think I will be able to find that much on Rivendell on wikipedia or lotr-wikia. I may just have to include a lot about the elves in general or Elrond.

I may end up just giving a total population to folks and let them sort out the details. For the sake of fun, boosting the populations of some regions and so on.

I may end up just giving a total population to folks and let them sort out the details. For the sake of fun, boosting the populations of some regions and so on.

I think that might be a good idea. Give everyone a little beginning structure.

Well, the only one that should not boost be is Gondor as they already contain by far the largest population of the free peoples by many times. As they already have about a million people in that realm.

hi

The Xeno Why Dont I Get Mirkwood???

Umm... you do.

Well, the only one that should not boost be is Gondor as they already contain by far the largest population of the free peoples by many times. As they already have about a million people in that realm.

Actually, according to what I've read.. it's more like 750,000.

Xeno i dont have a clue on how many dudes i have

Actually, according to what I've read.. it's more like 750,000.Yeah, a number of sites claim that, but I like to think about a million which I usually round up, but also there is a point to make that is still debated so I usually say between 750,000-1,200,000. With the population of Minas Tirith which is between 50,000-100,000 in population. Yet, I like to think of at between 75,000-100,000 and then multiply by ten since the city likely contains about a tenth of Gondor’s population. As well, the rest is centered in Pelargir and Dol Amroth.

@Scand: Got any idea on how many people Rivendell would have (and how many soldiers)?

Well, I would estimate at about 8,000,000-24,000, most likely in the range of the higher number, given that it is a powerful place for elves, a city of notable size, one of the most homely and elven places in Middle Earth, and is led by one of the most important places in Middle Earth. Overall I would say it has about 4,000-7,500 warriors due to the fact it was founded by Elrond as a refuge against Sauron with the remnants of an elven army under him. As well, during the Last Alliance they were one of the places in which a notable army was mustered and where a lot of the arms used by the Last Alliance were forged.

I will go with the upper numbers to keep my part even relevant. Thanks.

Your welcome, but the reason why I was keeping the number not very high is because Rivendell is only a valley and was never really described as a city of great size. Yet, if you wish you could possibly get away with pulling a population of 35,000-40,000 as you can change it to sort of a city encompassing a greater area then just the actually valley to even include areas down to the Angle. As well, that would mean being able to gather an army between 9,000-14,000.

Your welcome, but the reason why I was keeping the number not very high is because Rivendell is only a valley and was never really described as a city of great size. Yet, if you wish you could possibly get away with pulling a population of 35,000-40,000 as you can change it to sort of a city encompassing a greater area then just the actually valley to even include areas down to the Angle. As well, that would mean being able to gather an army between 9,000-14,000.

Yeah, we aren't just talking about that tiny little hidden refuge you see in the movies. Xeno decided that it was some small villages surrounding that also.

Yup. We're not doing just a specific city (In the case of Rivendell and Bree) but rather the region under its influence, in order to give those players greater flexability.

For example the Dunedain have a fairly large village in the Angle where they may number in the hundreds or even quite a bit over a thousand, in the area of the Angle they have a number of villages. As well, since they are close allies and friends of the elves so it may be possible for you to employ small groups of Rangers if you desire.

This occurring two years before the events of the movies. So before the War of the Ring. Movies? you call yourself a LOTR fan? Just kidding.

Anyeways, gimme the Shire. What's more fun than playing with hippies?

Hey, they are not happy or gay they are all just high little hobbits.

Hey, they are not happy or gay they are all just high little hobbits. Actually, if you think about it hobbits are hippies. they're non violent, don't like people who are not peaceful, they smoke weed, etc.

Just joking, but forgot to forgot in the wink face. Here is the correction.;)

Just joking, but forgot to forgot in the wink face. Here is the correction.;) ah, much better.

Really, hobbits are possibly one of the bravest of the free peoples at heart.

Really, hobbits are possibly one of the bravest of the free peoples at heart. Yea, they were so brave during the times Saruman and his croneys were terrorizing them.

Hear of Merry, Sam, Frodo, and Pippin.

Hear of Merry, Sam, Frodo, and Pippin. That's 4 brave hobbits. Now look at the other races who have been in numerous wars and have many valiant warriors.

Well, on the other hand if everyone smoked all that weed then you should really expect a people to do much. But, really the other races had to fight for their survival and freedom while the hobbits overall did not really have due to the Ranger mostly.

Yea, they were so brave during the times Saruman and his croneys were terrorizing them.

Apparently you are missing the point of bravery. The men and elves raised massive armies, have magic, and experience... the hobbits have nothing, are very small and weak, and yet still... they ventured on their own to Mt. Doom.

I'll be Dunland.

Kubra, approved.

Now. I know DMG and Scand are here. But other than one or two other people, no one else has checked in. So, if you're not DMG or Scand and you don't have a factbook listed, you're in serious risk of losing your region. I'm not trying to be a jerk, but activity is a requirement here. I'm not going to have the game ruined by people just sitting on a region.

Well since no one seems interested in them, I'll take charge of "Durin's folk"... Erebor (although considering Ered Mithrin was home of exiles after the lonely mountain was taken by Smaug and then retaken by Dain of the Ironhills after I would think the ruler of Erebor would hold dominion over these two regions as well... meh).

my factbook hope it is satisfactory
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11563773#post11563773

The Fact Book of Mordor (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11560658#post11560658)

Kubra, approved.

Now. I know DMG and Scand are here. But other than one or two other people, no one else has checked in. So, if you're not DMG or Scand and you don't have a factbook listed, you're in serious risk of losing your region. I'm not trying to be a jerk, but activity is a requirement here. I'm not going to have the game ruined by people just sitting on a region.

I hear you. I just got on the forums (they were wacky for me), but I am still interested. Don't delete me!

My factbook should be coming by tonight.

what about smeagle/golem? they are a very important part. without him the 9 riders can't go to the shire, and the ring wouldn' be destroyed.

I'm working on it...

Crap, time to wrk on a factbook.

what about smeagle/golem? they are a very important part. without him the 9 riders can't go to the shire, and the ring wouldn' be destroyed.

Umm... this is two years before the movies.

Golem can be an NPC.

*Gollum

He'll eventually begin to wander, maybe he already has, but the agents of the enemy are not yet truly abroad. I don't even have legions at this point, I'm still zealously searching for the Ring and convincing the Council that it was lost.

Course, Dol Guldor is yet entrenched with Evil, a shadow upon Mirkwood and the Necromancer at last returning to Barad'dur to rebuild his might in his true form of Sauron :D

*Gollum

Oops, my bad. (I just kind of followed the previous person's spelling without thinking)

Well since no one seems interested in them, I'll take charge of "Durin's folk"... Erebor (although considering Ered Mithrin was home of exiles after the lonely mountain was taken by Smaug and then retaken by Dain of the Ironhills after I would think the ruler of Erebor would hold dominion over these two regions as well... meh).

You bring up a good point. Approved for both.

- I'm updating the front page to reflect posted factbooks now.

Rohan Factbook: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11565214#post11565214

My factbook has everything but numbers. And im realy not sure of that. give me a day.

As to the Gollum issue, he'll likely be an NPC since he's basicly an unaffiliated character. (Unaffiliated to a specific region/nation, that is.) The same can be said of Gandulf.

Bilbo is basicly under the domain of the Shire's player, but I'm gonna have to take liberties to restrict his retirement (When he puts on the ring again) until such a time as the game is in the swing and Gollum is captured.

I will await to see the results of Gollum's capture.

Playing as the Easterlings i own Harad, Khand, and Rhun correct?
or just Harad and Khand?

500 Oliphaunts dude, you have your army with those along, I think down between 120-250 would be better, but the more giant elephant creatures the more food we have to feast on.;)

Could I please be Dunland/Dunlend? (I'm not entirely sure how to spell it.)

Could I please be Dunland/Dunlend? (I'm not entirely sure how to spell it.)

.. sure.

Playing as the Easterlings i own Harad, Khand, and Rhun correct?
or just Harad and Khand?

All three.

Accidentally posted in the main RP thread, though I deleted it immediately after. I was trying to inquire as to the availability of the Northmen. They still open?

I believe that of this moment no one else has even tried to claim one of the tribes that inhabit the Vale of the Anduin or in the Wilderland, but the rule of Rohan is mine and no others.

I don't know any cities of Dunland, Can I just make something up?

How is this?


Types of Soldiers
.Wildmen of Dunland 30,000

.Archers of Dunland 2,000

.Wildman Beserkers 8,000

Capital
.No Capital

Leader
.Snal the Beastly.

Population
.105,000

History of Dunland


At the end of the Second Age, these people (and their land) were known to others as the "Enedwaith", which meant both 'Middle-folk' and 'Middle-land', as they lay between the newly founded
Numenorean successor states of Gondor and Arnor. They were largely ignored despite the fact that a busy
Numenorean city — Tharbad — arose nearby,
and in fact, these Hillfolk kept their hatred of the descendants of Numenor
and remained an isolated people, and as a result never learnt Westron, which
developed from Adunaic as the 'lingua franca' of Middle-earth in the
Third Age. Despite this, the Hillfolk were able to slowly colonise Calenardhon,
the nearby sparsely populated province of Gondor, as the Dúnedain slowly dwindled in numbers and power, and had already reclaimed all the land between the Adorn and Isen when Gondor decided to give Calenardhon to
the numerous people of Éothéod in TA 2510.

The newcomers, who renamed themselves Rohirrim, named the foot-hills of their western neighbours 'Dunland', the Hill Country, and its inhabitants 'Dunlendings'. For their part, the Dunlendings felt threatened by these Forgoil "Strawheads" (a demeaning reference to the blond hair of the refugees from Calenardhon), although open war was not waged until the reign of Helm Hammerhand (TA 2741–2759). Freca, a lord of mixed Rohirric/Dunlending blood, tried to obtain the throne of Rohan for himself by petitioning for the marriage of his son Wulf to the daughter of Helm. Freca was consequently killed by Helm after insulting him upon being refused, and Freca's son Wulf led the Dunlendings into open war with Rohan. They unsuccessfully besieged the Hornburg during the Long Winter of TA 2758–2759, although Wulf captured Edoras, killing Helms son and heir. Helm's nephew Frealaf recaptured Edoras at the end of the Long Winter and killed Wulf personally, and the Dunlendings were then driven out of Rohan.

Guarding the Gap of Rohan was the fortress of Isengard, where a hereditary guard watched for Gondor. However, by the time of the Steward of Gondor Beren, these guards had mixed with Dunlendings, and it had become hostile to Gondor. To remedy this situation, Beren gave Saruman the keys to Orthanc to guard Isengard for Gondor


Snal

Snal the Beastly has recently come into power. With his leadership he has united most of the tribes of Dunland. It is said he is a decendant of Wulf and like Wulf he has a burning hatred of Rohan. Not much else is known about him.

You are supposed to make a new thread for your factbook.


(Mine's coming... sorry, busy packing)

Okay, well heres the link. http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=496623

I may end up just giving a total population to folks and let them sort out the details. For the sake of fun, boosting the populations of some regions and so on.

Anymore thought about this.

I just ended up using a population of 40K.

Accidentally posted in the main RP thread, though I deleted it immediately after. I was trying to inquire as to the availability of the Northmen. They still open?

Yes.

Rivendell Factbook: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=496626

I'll claim Ered Luin, but I'll need to find sites on them.

I'll claim Ered Luin, but I'll need to find sites on them.

There is a very little bit on wiki and lotr.wikia about them.

The best bet would just to be sensible about it, and do it sort of off-the-cuff.

I'm going back and making sure I didn't miss any factbooks. We're still short a few. I'm also tossing around some ideas on how to make things interesting should the game start out very slowly. :)

This reminds me of when I used to DM for D&D games.

I'm going back and making sure I didn't miss any factbooks. We're still short a few. I'm also tossing around some ideas on how to make things interesting should the game start out very slowly. :)

This reminds me of when I used to DM for D&D games.

I made a quick, poorly written, post that I have no idea where it's going...

I saw that. ;)

I saw that. ;)

Meh... it's pretty bad, but I felt like someone need to post and I wasn't that inspired by anything.

There is a very little bit on wiki and lotr.wikia about them.

Yea, I've only found bits and peieces about them on both of those and on other sites.

We need to get some plot going... Someone needs to do something or begin to prepare to do something big so that there is some driving point for everyone else.

Was i approved for playing the Dwarves of the Blue Mts.?

Delesa, before you ask in any more factbooks, ask here. People don't like it when you post in their factbook (especially after Xeno just reprimanded someone for doing it).

Delesa, before you ask in any more factbooks, ask here. People don't like it when you post in their factbook (especially after Xeno just reprimanded someone for doing it).

What's going on? I'm off and on due to my internet right now. (Storming like heck over here.)

Zelron, yes.

hey was just wondering if it is possible to RP as a captain in one of the human forces or elven, i just have with problem with short people and green people, no just kidding

Delesa']hey was just wondering if it is possible to RP as a captain in one of the human forces or elven, i just have with problem with short people and green people, no just kidding

You'd need to ask the player of that particular region/nation.

What's going on? I'm off and on due to my internet right now. (Storming like heck over here.)

Zelron, yes.

Not much. Delesa just posted in your and Scandinvan's factbook asking if he could RP as a captain in your military instead of claiming an entire people. I told him that a lot of people don't like it when you post in factbooks (as I remember you saying about yourself a few pages back and as is the same with me), so he deleted the posts

Delesa']hey was just wondering if it is possible to RP as a captain in one of the human forces or elven, i just have with problem with short people and green people, no just kidding

Sorry, not in mine.

(At least not yet)

Ok, heres the Blue Mountain Dwarves Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11571258#post11571258)

Has anyone heard of the Encyclopedia of Arda????

Hey, so if I want to be the Northmen, do I have to pick a specific city? Like Dale, or Esgaroth, or the Beornings, or do I get them all since they're all relatively small?

Has anyone heard of the Encyclopedia of Arda????

No... (actually, I might've)

Is it relevant to the RP so that it will help us.

Well Arda is the Wiki of LotR... Giant Online Encyclopedia of LotR Info

Well Arda is the Wiki of LotR... Giant Online Encyclopedia of LotR Info

Encyclopedia of ARDA (http://www.glyphweb.com/ARDA/)

Welcome to The Encyclopedia of Arda
The Encyclopedia of Arda is a personal project - a tribute to and a celebration of the works of J.R.R. Tolkien. The site is intended to evolve into an illustrated hypertext encyclopedia of Tolkien's realms and peoples. This lies a long way in the future, though; if the regions of Eä are vast beyond the thought of Elves and Men, so too are the works of J.R.R. Tolkien.

Central Mirkwood - Fallen Elves can anyone give me a good link to information about them?

Fact book (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11573552#post11573552)

im new at this so any comments would be helpfull.

Added the new factbooks to the front page.

Well Arda is the Wiki of LotR... Giant Online Encyclopedia of LotR Info

Encyclopedia of ARDA (http://www.glyphweb.com/ARDA/)

Ah, thanks. That looks really helpful.

Fact book (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11573552#post11573552)

im new at this so any comments would be helpfull.

More detail in general.

Many of us have just copied info from the lotr.wikia.

Thats basicly just a rehashing of the lotr.wiki.

Also do the numbers look right? I don't want to have a way out of perportion army.

Wait, you guys are just copying and pasting the wiki info? Damn, why didn't I think of that?

Wait, you guys are just copying and pasting the wiki info? Damn, why didn't I think of that?

Well, some of us do. Also, adding a little of your own creativity and writing helps.

And if that fails, use creative formating. :p

Durin's Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11576519#post11576519)

Still a bit iffy on the numbers and I'm assuming given the nature of middle-earth Dwarves that most of the population knows how to fight - so consider the force numbers to represent a portion of the total population listed.

If anyone thinks there needs to be any amendments/additions speak now or forever hold your peace.

Also sorry for the delay, forum issues and all that.

Nice factbook.

And if that fails, use creative formating. :p

Durin's Factbook (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11576519#post11576519)

Still a bit iffy on the numbers and I'm assuming given the nature of middle-earth Dwarves that most of the population knows how to fight - so consider the force numbers to represent a portion of the total population listed.

If anyone thinks there needs to be any amendments/additions speak now or forever hold your peace.

Also sorry for the delay, forum issues and all that.


I think you should have a bigger population. Look at everyone else Gondor alone has a million people. I think you should have atleast 50,000 in all. But thats just a suggestion.

I think you should have a bigger population. Look at everyone else Gondor alone has a million people. I think you should have atleast 50,000 in all. But thats just a suggestion.

Maybe... I don't think dwarves were that abundant. Though I certainly wouldn't object to him adding a few thousand to his population.

I think you should have a bigger population. Look at everyone else Gondor alone has a million people. I think you should have atleast 50,000 in all. But thats just a suggestion.

pfft. Everyone knows a dwarf is worth more than a hundred men...

:rolleyes:

I was trying to keep it realistic since I don't think there was that many dwarves (as DMG said). In any case, I'll have a lot of heroes to back me up, not to mention the multitudes of high quality weapons and armour at my disposal. ;)

Oh, and the fact I don't think I'll be going to war with the other free people's of middle-earth anytime soon.

Nice factbook.
Likewise :) (though you might want to fix the picture on the top post - it appears to be broken).

Likewise :) (though you might want to fix the picture on the top post - it appears to be broken).

Yeah, it did that for me too for a moment, but it seems fine now.

Never mind, I'll stay. here's my factbook, which is made from copy-pasta. Yum, copy pasta.

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11580720#post11580720

We need (not that they are vital) the Northmen, the Men of Bree, and The Shire if anyone looking at this thread is interested.

I found nothing about a leader for the Ered Luin Dwarves. Would it be alright with everyone if I created a leader for them?

As long as nobody knows about him, it is probably fine.

Guys, I ask two things (even though this is not my RP) of you when posting in the IC thread. 1) Don't make very short posts (especially one-liners), though my first post might be guilty of this. I know this slightly hard currently as we don't have much to do, but for the future... 2) Don't make posts that are solely OOC comments. I don't mind if you add an OOC comment at the end of a serious IC post, but not by itself. You can keep OOC talk to this thread.

Also, we need to get some story going...


[I hope you agree with what I have said Xeno, otherwise I shall remove it at request.]

ummm guys i asked you earlier any info for Mirkwood??

ummm guys i asked you earlier any info for Mirkwood??

Wiki?
Lotr.wikia?
Encyclopedia of Arda?

Hey, who get's Gandalf?

Guys, I ask two things (even though this is not my RP) of you when posting in the IC thread. 1) Don't make very short posts (especially one-liners), though my first post might be guilty of this. I know this slightly hard currently as we don't have much to do, but for the future... 2) Don't make posts that are solely OOC comments. I don't mind if you add an OOC comment at the end of a serious IC post, but not by itself. You can keep OOC talk to this thread.

Also, we need to get some story going...


[I hope you agree with what I have said Xeno, otherwise I shall remove it at request.]

How short is "short" exactly?

Yeah, my hands are pretty tied at the moment, I'm not quite certain what to do. I mean, if we are keeping this fairly canon, then I'm pretty much stuck in the mountains until the battle of Dale (since all dwarves really want to do is mine, forge and drink).

'course, if we aren't keeping a strict adherance to the LotR universe... well I'm bored. I've been toying with the idea of pulling a Warcraft (a soul-switch) and making up my own faction based around the dragons (cold-drakes) of the Withered Heath - if only to stir things up a bit. It'd be something completely of my own creation since the cold-drakes of LotR are probably of animalistic intelligence. I would change this naturally.

If I'm allowed to do this I'd hand over the northern dwarves to someone else... and then enslave them shortly afterwards. ;)

Hey, who get's Gandalf?

I believe he may also be an NPC, but don't quote me on that.

*shakes his head* I hate what this has become. You know, other than DMG and like.. maybe one other person, this RP has ended up with a crop of really, really farkin' bad players.

I had high hopes for this, but I can't even bear to look at the IC thread at this point.

I am dropping out. I don't think I can contribute to this RP, and looking at the IC thread didn't help. It was a great idea, maybe another time.

*shakes his head* I hate what this has become. You know, other than DMG and like.. maybe one other person, this RP has ended up with a crop of really, really farkin' bad players.

I had high hopes for this, but I can't even bear to look at the IC thread at this point.

Unfortunately, I must agree. This didn't go well at all...

Unfortunately, I must agree. This didn't go well at all...

I had a feeling that something like this would happen. We unfortunetly, got saddled with a bunch of people that just wanted to claim a region and then do nothing with it.

Yeah... and I know my first post was pretty sucky, but I was just trying to get people going... the recent ones have been a line or two of nothing.

i cant start until i get facts on my people!!!!

Well its not like you were here, i mean 20 of my ships are in sight of your coast and yet nothing. seriously you should check yourself before you point out others flaws.

*shakes his head* I hate what this has become. You know, other than DMG and like.. maybe one other person, this RP has ended up with a crop of really, really farkin' bad players.

I had high hopes for this, but I can't even bear to look at the IC thread at this point.

No offense, but you ain't exactly the best DM either. You can't just wave you're magic wand and expect sh.t to happen. There needs to be a starting point and you simply have not produced one - I mean really, you should be playing Mordor: those are the guys that stir up everything.

Look, I'm not prepared to drop this just yet. I'm still thinking about that idea I mentioned earlier and I think I'm going to go with it. I don't know what will come of it but hopefully it'll inspire some people into action... or something.

I have the feeling I'm regarded as a "farkin' bad" player....

Seriously, what's the date in middle earth currently? I wanna do Bilbos brithday.

No one realy knows, the DM hasn't given us one.

Um, actually...

Somewhat before. The ring is "dormant" currently, IE: Bilbo hasn't put it on yet. Since NS time seems to go by pretty fast, we're starting a year or two before the beginning of the movies.

Basicly, the ring is in Bilbo's possession, Aragorn is wandering around the north. Gondor and Mordor are fighting each other as usual. The Mines of Moria are under the control of goblins and orcs. Isenguard has been corrupted.

And so on.

a year or 2 is pretty vauge he wants like an exact date.

Number one. I'm sick of answering questions which could be answered just by reading the first thread.

Number two. The IC thread was ruined by the plethora of one-liners and random OOC crap.

Number three. As I pointed out, I'm sick of what this has become. If you're too stupid to take the hint that it means I'm NOT going to RP, then that's really not my problem.

DMG, you did fine man. I appreciate the effort you took to try and jump-start the game, but with this group of players, there was just no salvaging it.

HEY XENO wtf??? why dont YOU LOOK UP CENTRAL MIRKWOOD FACTS??? AND DON'T JUST give me these bull with o why dont you trty wiki or lotr.wiki??? LOOK IT UP. YOU'LL FIND NOTHING...ZERO, NADA, ZIP

a year or 2 is pretty vauge he wants like an exact date.

not true, it starts in 3016 of the third age.

can I join?

this thing is dead. don't bother.

No one realy knows, the DM hasn't given us one.

Umm... he has given it and I have repeated several times.

HEY XENO wtf??? why dont YOU LOOK UP CENTRAL MIRKWOOD FACTS??? AND DON'T JUST give me these bull with o why dont you trty wiki or lotr.wiki??? LOOK IT UP. YOU'LL FIND NOTHING...ZERO, NADA, ZIP

It isn't his job to look up your facts. If he had to do that it would take a shit load of time to find info on everybody. Perhaps you could (like I suggested along with researching) make up some facts and be creative... then check it with Xeno and if he gives you the okay, you can begin to RP.



DEAD

Umm... he has given it and I have repeated several times.






DEAD

oh, sorry i didn't see them and im pretty sure i read all of the posts. my bad.

It might have been better if we started with the war of the ring, 2 years before doesn't give us a lot to work with....