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The Red Sea Alliance

Founding Nations:
The Emirate of Alif Laam Miim
The People's Republic of Arabicia - collapsed
The Kingdom of Kopparbergs - collapsed
Honorable Members:
The Revived Empire of Vineyard
The United Caucasian Republics


The Red Sea Alliance was formed [10AUG2006] to band nations of the Middle East, centered around the Red Sea, to improve military, diplomatic, political, and economic ties between member states.

By election of the Emirate of Alif Laam Miim and the United Caucasus Republics, the RSA has been declared null and void. [21MAY2007]


Main E-V Threads:
OOC Thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=490215) || IC Thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=492522) || Military Thread (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=492526) || Maps (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=493109) || References (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=501393)


Accords for this Alliance Thread:

*ALL POSTS ARE SIC between member states unless otherwise stated - any violation of this provision will result in an "ignore" function of the violating post.

Details to come as the Alliance begins operations.


Threads worth concern by the RSA:
ALM D/N (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=492189)
Kopparbergs D/N (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=494876)
Vineyard
Granate (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=497234)
Pan-African Conference (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=502035)
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SIBAT (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=495178)
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The Will of Allah (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=501950) - the Emirate makes peace to the threats posed by Sistan and Asherton
Iraq, Kuwait, and Syria: The Reclamation (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=504993) - Vineyard goes out to recover its lost territories

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History of Involvement:

[U]Red Sea War - the RSA's first major war saw the demise of Sistan to the combined efforts of the RSA and the otherwise cooperative international community in recognizing the threats posed by a powerful Sistan and Asherton.

Charter of the Red Sea Alliance

WE, the venerable governments of the Red Sea Alliance [hereafter RSA], to understand our obligations, to acknowledge our relationships, to affirm the true bonds of our alliance, to share common and mutual interests, and to preserve peace and security in the Red Sea region and in neighboring regions, hereby pledge our support to uphold the provisions of this charter, which shall serve as the template for the procedures applicable to the RSA and its affairs therein.

Article I

All member states of the RSA hereby oblige themselves to promoting the official policy and interests of the RSA, decided in general consensus among its members.

a) Members may pursue other interests other than those explicitly stated by the RSA, if in doing so would promote their own national interests that do not conflict with RSA standards.
b) Members may join as many alliances as deemed fit for their own national security, if in doing so would promote their own national interests and do not conflict with RSA standards.
c) Members may opt to withdraw from the RSA, if in doing so preserves their national sovereignty and security – albeit retained members may opt to deal with each withdrawal case as deemed fit for RSA interests.
d) Members cannot actively engage in any sort of policy or interest that inherently destabilizes the nature of the RSA and likewise poses a threat to other member states, even if doing so would be in their national interests or otherwise the interests of another alliance or organization.
e) The purpose of the RSA is maintain peace and security in the Red Sea region and neighboring regions [hereafter the Middle East]; RSA members will enforce and effect policies and pursue interests that actively seek to uphold this purpose by whatever means deemed necessary in general consensus among the member state.

Article II

All members of the RSA hereby pledge to support one another in war and peace, in manners decided in general consensus among RSA members, and likewise in mutual bilateral exchanges.

a) Members may not pursue hostility of any kind against any other RSA member.
b) The allies of member states are not officially allies of the RSA, and while no member state is forbidden from pursuing hostility against the allies of other member states, it is nonetheless encouraged that members maintain amiable relations with the allies of other member states.
c) In war, an attack upon any member state by any other foreign state, alliance, or organization is rendered a direct attack upon all RSA members – regardless of any secondary relations with the aggressors that any other member of the RSA would have.
d) Any attack upon an RSA member that is directed with the full intent to harm or incapacitate that member’s ability to sovereign rule – an attack that is not in conjunction with any other present conflict in which the member is already involved – shall be considered a direct attack, in which case the offended member may formally appeal to seek or decline assistance – otherwise, all members are obliged to render their full support for the offended member.
e) If a member state is drawn into an outside conflict due to circumstances of national interest or of the interests of another alliance that does not involve other RSA members, the other members have no obligation to assist the member in conflict; likewise, it is the obligation of RSA members to remain at the minimum a neutral stance in the war, such that any declaration would not hurt or hinder the progress of the member at war.
f) Members are strongly encouraged not to wage wars of aggression against other states, as this would go against the basic principles of the RSA – that is to preserve peace and security in the Middle East.
g) If a conflict involving two RSA members arises, it is the obligation of all members to mediate the conflict and find an appropriate resolution to the matter, to avoid escalating the tensions within the RSA to an extent that renders cooperation impractical.
h) Members are encouraged to continue and sponsor very healthy and cooperative economic, military, social, political, and ideological relations, not to force any nation to change its particular interests, but more to improve such relationships that a cooperative venture by the RSA in general will be more successful and efficient.

Article III

All members of the RSA hereby pledge to establish a formal Council, to be the formal forum that decides the policy and interest of the RSA.

a) The Council shall be a setting in which all members are considered equal and equally decisive in determining the policy.
b) The Council shall not be an instrument to effect the national interests or policy of any particular member, but more to support and likewise to determine the general interests – those that do not infringe on the sovereignty and the interests – of all members.
c) The Council shall not decide the official policy of any member’s government or state, unless the government or state are effecting policies and pursuing interests that run contrary to the principles and policies of the RSA.
d) The Council shall have no mandatory schedule to which to adhere; all members present are required to attend any and all emergency sessions of the Council, if and when the situation sanctions the actions.
e) The Council shall be accorded the power to declare war upon a foreign entity, to declare sanctions upon a foreign entity, to declare official policies for the RSA, to determine diplomatic exchanges for the RSA, and otherwise to declare any important decision officially; such power is warranted only under the circumstance of a unanimous vote by all RSA members.
f) The official headquarters of the Council shall be established in Sharm ash Shaykh.
g) For any decisions, not involving the declaration of war, sanctions, official policy, diplomatic exchanges, and otherwise any important decision, a general majority is required for the Council to adopt such measures.
h) Neither the Council nor the RSA organization have the authority to draft any armed force for the purpose of maintaining an allied force under the jurisdiction of the RSA in general; the RSA cannot likewise attain the jurisdiction and command of forces under the command of any member state.

Article IV

Membership in the RSA shall be decided by the ratification of this charter by the prospective state and a unilateral acceptance by all current RSA members present.

a) All RSA members must ratify this charter, including any and all amendments therein addressed, before becoming a member of the RSA.
b) As a member, all RSA members share equal rights and responsibilities within the RSA organization and Council.
c) Membership is not primarily restricted to those states bordering the Red Sea, but it is more oriented to those states that share a mutual interest to preserve peace and stability in the Middle East, with applicable and practical reasons to do so.
d) Membership shall not be denied on account of a member’s relative inability to act as a powerful or strong state in the international setting, but more upon their willingness to promote the interest of the RSA.
e) Members who join the RSA while at war with another foreign state, organization or alliance, do not and cannot oblige RSA members to assist them in this war, which in its nature falls beyond the obligations of any member; however, it is permissible that the RSA may elect to offer assistance formally if the situation sanctions the action and the circumstance is right to promote RSA interests.
f) Members who fail to adhere to the basic principles and policies of the RSA can be suspended from the alliance by a 2/3 majority vote [not including the offending member]; if after suspension the member has not made any redress, the same member can be expelled by a unanimous vote.

Article V

The RSA Charter is to remain the official charter of the RSA under all circumstances and no portions can be considered void under any circumstances while a member remains a party to the RSA.

a) The charter can be amended by a unanimous vote to permit new provisions that were heretofore unforeseen and unacknowledged at the time of its ratification.
b) The charter or portions of the charter cannot be rendered nullified by any member when a provision explicitly does not follow the particular interests of that member.
c) The charter cannot be replaced by a new charter, except by the unanimous consent of all member states.

Ratified by the Emriate of Alilf Laam Miim, The Kingdom of Kopparbergs, the Democratic People's Republic of Arabicia, the Revived Empire of Vineyard, and the United Caucasian Republics on 2006 October 10

The Kingdom offers Arabicia reinforcements in northern Saudi Arabia.

We are convinced that the situation in Yemen has increased the tensions with Sistan, and we want to help you fortify the border to Iraq and Kuwait.

We have a battle group (1) in Eilat, waiting for the order to go into Saudi Arabia. We can also offer patrol flights over the northern part of Saudi Arabia to ensure that Sistani troops don't cross the border.

King Carl Gustaf XXI

OOC:
(1) The Battle group consists of :
200 Merkava MK4's
15 MAR-290 (long-range artillery system link ( http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/vehicles/self_propelled_artillery/290mm/290mm.html)
SPYDER - Air Defence Missile Systems
Nimrods (Air and Ground Launched Precision Guided Munition)
LAHATs (Laser Homing Anti-Tank Gun)
LAR-160 (Light Artillery Rocket System)
Supply vehicles

Arabcia appreciates all support it has recieved from it's allies. However, we currently lack much in the way of a standing Navy and we fear our port cities may now be in danger, especially in eastern, oil rich cities.

[ooc: thank god this is all SIC...]

The Emirate has mobilized a portion of its fleet to patrol the southern Yemen coastline. We will need some time before we can mobilize the fleet - whatever good it is at the moment [I like to think that it is, but with Sistan's military, I don't know what I'm up against - half of his stuff are fabrications].

We will need more air support than anything in this war, and the Emirate is likely preparing for attacks in the Sudan from Asherton territory, although we hope that they will stay out.

Until further notice, we offer the Army of Suez [approximately 40,000 men in total with heavy armored support] for your assistance - unless Sistan makes moves elsewhere.

This order has been sent to the battle group (which consists of 10.000 troops) in Eilat:

"Cross the Aquaba bay and move towards Saudi Arabia's northern border amongst Iraq/Kuwait. Watch out for Sistanian troops, they may have crossed the border already. You have permission to open fire, but only inside Saudi Arabia. Stay inside Saudi Arabia, do not cross any borders. Your mission is to close the border and prevent anyone from crossing it. You will have assistance from one flight wing with Lavis from AAF1 in Beersheba."

If you can let us use an air force base, or at least a civilian airport, we can easily patrol amongst your east coast. We cannot, however, send any naval vessels at the moment, as we don't have much of 'em. And even if we could send some, I'm not sure we could slip through the Strait of Hormuz. I'll talk with General Carl Hamilton about the naval situation. In the meantime the Lavis' meant to patrol the borders, can extend their routes to include the coastline as well.

King Carl Gustaf XXI

The Emirate of Bahrain is to come under the protection of the Emirate of Alif Laam Miim. After Emir Jalal accepts the title Emir of Bahrain, Bahrain shall become absorbed into the ALM coalition [ooc: a historical term referring to the 1950's conflict with Britain]

It is of utmost importance that we keep the Gulf of Aden in our control, or at least, keep it open for our ships.

Part of our defense export passes the port in Eilat, and further out in the Red Sea. It should harm our export if the possibility to send ships to Asia was limited to go around Africa.

General Carl Hamilton
Secretary of Defense
Kingdom of Kopparbergs

The Suez Canal remains open for the use of all Red Sea members, as well as any non-hostile vessels. We echo the sentiments that the Gulf of Aden is vital for our interests. We hope that the Kopparbergs navy will cooperate with our own patrols there.

The Emirate further states that the Strait of Hormuz will become a strategic position soon, and efforts to secure it should be of top priority after Aden is guaranteed.


And to our Kopparbergs neighbor, we wish to inform you that your Barak pistol has won our contract for the principal sidearm of the ALM armed forces. We are also deeply interested in your Uzi weapons as well, and we will make appropriate orders to supply our armed forces with these weapons. Unfortunately, the TG6R HK G36 and HK MG43 was considered a more viable choice for weapons. We still look forward to our cooperative work in developing a new MBT design very soon.

The International Alliance for World Stablity would like to offer the oppurtunity to the Red Sea Alliance for the two to become sister alliances. We feel that in times like these it is best to make as many friends as possible, as to help achieve the IAWS' goal of a world that is peaceful and stable

The International Alliance for World Stablity would like to offer the oppurtunity to the Red Sea Alliance for the two to become sister alliances. We feel that in times like these it is best to make as many friends as possible, as to help achieve the IAWS' goal of a world that is peaceful and stable

We will consider this offer as soon as all members are present.

The Straits of Hormuz are blocked off by the Sistani forces. We really need to research our naval stats on Sistani forces, although his forces have used cover-all civilian freighters to supplant much of his naval force.

Arabicia also stated that he wished to speak to the Emir in private.

As The People's Republican Guard drives further into Yemen, forces become increasingly hostile. While the Yemeni Army is toppled easily, the extremists are not. The Arm of Allah has entered the area and stolen Yemeni military components and has taken control of Sanna. It also appears that the AOA has expanded in Oman and Qatar as well, in hopes of toppling these governments to establish theocratic states in this time of political instabillity.

We need to assist Arabicia in their troubles. The Emirate orders a naval blockade of Yemen and mobilizes the Air Force to assist Arabician operations there.

The Emirate mobilizes the majority of Benghazi fleet to prepare for action in the Arabian Sea.

The Following force is mobilized:

7 Shanghai II class small patrol boat
5 Yurka class patrol minesweeper
3 Romeo class coastal submarine
1 Jianghu class light patrol frigate
1 Descubierta class light frigate
1 Knox class anti-submarine frigate

They will be moving out later this evening.

We're having three naval ships on their way out of the Red Sea.

Their location at this moment:

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m98/kopparbergs/ships-red-sea-1.jpg

We also have one submarine just behind the ships, and we're ready to send planes to support them if neccesary.

The International Alliance for World Stablity would like to offer the oppurtunity to the Red Sea Alliance for the two to become sister alliances. We feel that in times like these it is best to make as many friends as possible, as to help achieve the IAWS' goal of a world that is peaceful and stable

Well, while we have this on the floor, do we want this?

Re: The International Alliance for World Stablity

I'm, open to declare us as sister-alliances - as long as we don't promise to help each other in every issue.

We don't have the capacity to fly/sail all around the world, and as far as I know the members in IAWS are not in our neighborhood.

But we may help if we're able to do so. But we have to decide that from issue to issue.

What do you say?

I'm open to mutual cooperation, but if we go as sister alliances, it puts our alliance in league nearly immediately opposed to another alliance [FOAM]. I'm not interested in that kind of mutual cooperation.

We've got enough with everything else - we don't need to worsen things with FOAM.

Ok, I'll buy that!

Let's stay with mutual cooperation on a case-by-case basis?

As of now I think that we should just have our stances on the issues. If their alliance feels the same way about something, then we can maybe try to work something out.

Ok, I'll buy that!

Let's stay with mutual cooperation on a case-by-case basis?

I'd love to hear what Arabicia has to say, but I think that this is good for the moment.

ok

[ooc: I strongly you to stop your nuclear prep work as that is not going to help resolve the matter - only to intensify it any more than has already happened.]

We must band our navies to push out the Sistan fleet. If they risk war, they will fire upon our vessels in the area - otherwise, I don't think that they would risk firing upon another vessel in the area after sinking one of our civilian vessels.

The Emirate has mobilized its fleet [see main thread for SIC details] to begin survey and recovery operations for the downed tanker. We hope that our allies will help assist in the program.

We will send 40 F-16C to Yemen. They will both patrol the mainland and the Gulf of Aden.

OOC; I'm building up my navy at the moment, I'll send them out when I'm done with it.

SIC:

We have reason to believe that Sistan's government is sponsoring the Arms of Allah movement that currently runs rampant in Yemen, Oman, and Qatar. While we have not officially connected them to the terror attack in Riyadh, we believe that their excessive defense for these extremists - especially considering that Yemen is also in a civil war against these forces - connects Sistan militarily and financially to these extremist groups. Their naval units have been spotted frequently on the coast of Yemen, either loading or unloading items and/or personel. We encourage Kopparbergs to confirm these SAT reports, as our SAT intel is limited to basic geographic survey satellites. In another word, we should all try to cooperate on an extensive SAT network for the Red Sea Alliance, to improve our intelligence connections and reliability.

We will be moving our fleet very shortly, once our survey vessels are ready to head out to the sinks site. We would encourage coordinating air support with Arabicia and Kopparbergs to make certain that Sistan does not win any superiority in the area, considering that they also have a large naval and aerial presence in Asherton as well.

IC:

Refugee reports from the Sudan confirm that massive slaughters have been occuring within Ethiopian territory. Just before Asherton and Sistani troops closed the border, at least 25,000 refugees - mostly Christian - fled to the Sudan where they have flocked to massive camps where recent military reports confirmed that rampant disease and malnutrition run through the camps. Although the occupation by these refugees was considered illegal, the Prime Minister Yusuf Hassan - on the behalf of Emir Jalal - has granted them all amnesty and pledged to relocate the civilians to government support centers in the Sudan. A number of militant refugees were forced to turn their weapons to ALM authorities before they were permitted to leave for these supporrt centers.

From this large community, which alleges to numerous barbaric murder and torture incidents in Ethiopia as Asherton and Sistan force solidify their power over the region. One man indicated that men were decapitated, castrated, and/or minced in front of their families. A number of the Christan men in the camps had lost arms - one of the better offenses committed in Ethiopia. In all, the reports are startling and conjure only condemnation from the Emirate for this disregard for basic human rights: "Any person who commits such atrocities cannot call himself Muslim, let alone human," quoted by the Ministry of Justice.

The Ministry of Foreign Relations has issued a statement to Asherton:

"While we respect the sovereignty of Asherton and their recent need to procure safe and secure borders, we implore your government to restore order in Ethiopia by less barbaric means. We furthermore express our hope that this sort of practice is commonly accepted by the Asherton Armed Forces as a means to deal with dissident minorities. If need be, we will open our lands to host those displaced in the conflict so that these practices will cease. We hope that Asherton respects the dignity of life, so as not to authorize brutal and unnecessary modes of acquiescence for its citizens. We stand by our offers and await your reply."

SIC:
The Confederate States of America has offered the Alliance support in the conflict. They just want to know were they should send the troops (2 Marine divisions and some air force stuff).

I suggest that they should reinforce either Sudan or Saudi Arabia. As these countries are the main fronts, they should have the best defense. We can keep Israel's need of defense with our own troops.

EDIT:
We have sent this message to TCSA:
We suggest (without a discussion with the other members of the alliance) that you send your, much appreciated, troops to Saudi Arabia. Preferable at the east coast or amongst the border to UAE.

SIC: Send them to Saudi Arabia - their forces will be more pressed there.

[ooc: don't know why I wrote SIC, since this whole thread is SIC anyway...]

The Emirate's Delegation in the United Nations Security Council has made a presentation of the evidence against Sistan and Asherton. We can only hope that these revelations will help to convince them that we are fighting belligerent enemies. We are still awaiting word on the attacks made presently upon our nations.

[ooc: Sistan hasn't posted any military stats... and neither has Asherton...]

ooc@Kopparbergs: Done and done.

ic:

The first planes bumped down in Riyadh airport. The first 6, were McDonnell-Douglas C-17A Globemaster transports, of the confederate air force. The first 3 carried 130 Fully equipped combat ready marines, whilst the next carried 3 M113A3 APCs, another was laden with four ten tonne trucks and extra supplies, whilst the final carried two Bradley Cavalry IFVs.

The troops filed off, and began to wait for two hours, when the next contingent would arrive. Fuel, logistical supplies and support troops were coming in on two C-10A jets, whilst behind that, even more C-17As were approaching. Every hour, more planes were set to come, carrying 4,000 troops in over the next several days. By sea, 20,000 more troops were set to arrive. In the sky 2 Squadrons of F-15C fighters had also been dispatched, along with single flights of A-10As and F-15Es.

As soon as the second flight arrived, the first wave began to head for the border with the UAE, where fighting was expected. This tiny motorised column would probably not be able to get very far, but the offensive punch packed by the elite troops would do a lot to help the efforts of the Red Sea alliance.

ooc@Kopparbergs: Done and done.

ic:

The first planes bumped down in Riyadh airport. The first 6, were McDonnell-Douglas C-17A Globemaster transports, of the confederate air force. The first 3 carried 130 Fully equipped combat ready marines, whilst the next carried 3 M113A3 APCs, another was laden with four ten tonne trucks and extra supplies, whilst the final carried two Bradley Cavalry IFVs.

The troops filed off, and began to wait for two hours, when the next contingent would arrive. Fuel, logistical supplies and support troops were coming in on two C-10A jets, whilst behind that, even more C-17As were approaching. Every hour, more planes were set to come, carrying 4,000 troops in over the next several days. By sea, 20,000 more troops were set to arrive. In the sky 2 Squadrons of F-15C fighters had also been dispatched, along with single flights of A-10As and F-15Es.

As soon as the second flight arrived, the first wave began to head for the border with the UAE, where fighting was expected. This tiny motorised column would probably not be able to get very far, but the offensive punch packed by the elite troops would do a lot to help the efforts of the Red Sea alliance.

[ooc: this is better posted in the war thread, and I'd seriously wait on posting attacks until Sistan posts his attacking armies, so no one can godmod a victory, although I'm seriously considering that a viable option. And I know that you posted it in there, but could you list out the troops deployments - what units and equipment they've got so no one can say, "ur crap pwns nuthin" as a reply...]

ooc. Well, it's been three days since they started the invasion. And we're still waiting for a list...

ooc. Well, it's been three days since they started the invasion. And we're still waiting for a list...

[ooc: I wouldn't mind except I know that Sistan has been on more than once and has even commented, without having any regard to continuing this war... And yes, I'm concerning hitting one of two special weapons hidden in a bunker somewhere - the I cannon or the G cannon, and I haven't decided between the one and the other...]

The Emirate wishes to call its allies to an emergency meeting, to discuss future battle plans [since ICly, it's taking forever for this thing to start]. We desire absolutely strict channels of communication and ponder what methods are available to you.
Who can read this message?
SIC to all nations that have volunteered assistance for the Red Sea Alliance:
If you can, good for you!
The Emirate invites military liaison from your respective countries to discuss future plans. We wish to know the troop dispositions of the volunteered forces being committed. [At the moment, the list of volunteering nations is limited to the following: Warta Endor; Neuvo Rica - he's on vacation; Persecution and Hatred; missing anyone?]

Warta Endor will send a liaison officer to talk about operations. The Forces Warta Endor has send are:
-2nd. Squadron (15 F16D 52/52+)
-13th. Squadron (15 Hawk 209)
-133rd. Squadron (15 Hawk 209)

Warta Endor will send a liaison officer to talk about operations. The Forces Warta Endor has send are:
-2nd. Squadron (15 F16D 52/52+)
-13th. Squadron (15 Hawk 209)
-133rd. Squadron (15 Hawk 209)

[ooc: sry for the late reply, but seeing as not too many people are sending people to discuss in detail, I'm postponing the meeting until after the action starts. Besides, I'm out most of this coming weekend.]

SIC to Kopparbergs -

It is strongly advised that your military initiate ADA units immediately, to prevent scud and missile strikes from Sistan. With the world attention turning against them, they might be tempted to try more unconventional tactics to turn the war in their favor.

MoD Salil as-Salah Ibn-Ibrahim

We're having all our defense-systems in Israel on the highest alert, including:
MTHEL, Mobile Tactical High Energy Laser - designed to counter short-range rockets (info) (http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/missile_systems/systems/THEL.html)
ARROW 2 - Theatre ballistic missile defense system (info) (http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/missile_systems/surface_missiles/arrow/Arrow.html)
HAWK (homing all the way killer) - an aircraft interception surface-to-air missile (SAM) system to short-medium ranges (info) (http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/missile_systems/surface_missiles/hawk/Hawk.htm)

In addition to this we're having multiple mobile SPYDER-units (Air Defense Missile System) (info) (http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/missile_systems/surface_missiles/spyder/Spyder.htm) in both Israel and Saudi Arabia (and of course ordinary artillery installations). Once we're inside Jordan and Syria we'll having them there to. They don't need any kind of installation as they are very mobile.

We have a bunch of Spyder-units in Israel, ready for action on the field. We planned to move them to Saudi Arabia later on, but we may lend them to you if you need them in Sudan or Egypt. Please let us know.

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m98/kopparbergs/ministry_of_defence.jpg
General Carl Hamilton
Secretary of Defense

[ooc: this is better posted in the war thread,
Bloody hell, I wondered why that didn't show up in the war thread.

Now there's one mean case of posting in the wrong thread.

SIC TO ALL RSA and AFFILIATED ALLIES:

The sudden collapse of the government in Sistan has led to a serious position. The RSA is faced with a fanatical group of people who have already pledged their allegiance to a cause that seeks the destablization of the world. Hence, we need to band together to eliminate this threat. We are calling upon all of our professed allies to come together and work out on a partitioning of the former Empire of Sistan.

If the following nations are willing to render their assistance:

VINEYARD: The Empire of Vineyard is permitted to recollect their stolen possessions in Iraq, Kuwait, Jordan, and Syria. If necessary, they may also pursue pacification runs in Persia itself.

ALM: We will seek to restabilize our brethren in the United Arab Emirates.

ARABICIA: The Democratic Republic of Arabicia will seek out the reviled fanatics in Yemen and Oman. If they can afford to do so, they may take operations in Qatar - otherwise, the Emirate will assist in that measure.

KOPPARBERGS: The Kingdom of Kopparbergs is asked to restabilize their long -volatile neighbors in Lebanon. If necessary, they can render assistance to Vineyardian reassimilation in Syria.

WARTA ENDOR: Warta Endor is tasked to help pacify Socotra, and perhaps help the RSA forces incapacitate the remnant Sistani fleet.


All nations willing ought to submit their acceptance or resignations about their specific task.

[ooc: this is a partition list to be RPed out, due to Sistan's sudden expulsion]

SIC as usual

We agree to the suggestion by Alif Laam Miim, but with a small modification:

We would like to have Jordan and Lebanon – if that's acceptable by Vineyard. We already have large amount of troops in Jordan, and we would prefer to keep them there to maintain law and order. We will, however, support Vineyard with the task of liberating Syria, Iraq and Kuwait.

I suggest that we invite Vineyard to be a member of the Red Sea Alliance, as Alif Laam Miim and Vineyard has signed an alliance, and Kopparbergs and Vineyard has cooperated in Jordan and Syria during the Red Sea war.

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m98/kopparbergs/ministry_of_defence.jpg
General Carl Hamilton
Secretary of Defense, Red Sea Alliance Administrator
Kingdom of Kopparbergs

SIC:
To: The Red Sea Alliance Leadership.
From: Foreign Minister Albert Stropka, The UCRG

We would like to report to you that we will soon be begining an operartion of assimilation in the North-western part of Iran. We will be moving in due to the collapse of the Sistani goverment and the policitical upheaval that is now taking place around their former country. We would like to stabilize our southern border and take some land in return for the Sistani aggression against us.

We will begin assimilating approximately 4 Provinces: The East Azerbaijan Province, The West Azerbaijan Province, The Ardabil Province, and the Gilan Province. We may move as far west as the Mazandaran Province, but it is unlike at this time. Later once the territories we have assimilated have quited down, we might.

We hope you approve of this.

Sincerely
Albert Stropka
Foreign Minister
The United Caucasus Republic of Granate.

SIC

The decisions in the ultimate land partitioning is left to individual nations - the ALM see no reason why not to permit Kopparberg's continued occupation, unless the Empire of Vineyard would vehemently protest this decision.


We welcome Kopparberg's invitation to Vineyard, to add their honorable state to the RSA, since they were pivotal in many instances in their support of the RSA. There is little reason why not to add them to our ranks.

To Granate:

Such a proposal to assist the RSA and our allies in the pacification of Sistan is very welcome at this time. We caution that Sistan - even without a government - is still very hostile, and thus may require much time and deliberation in order to preserve the order in place at the moment. Nonetheless, the spoils of your aid will be as you so desired.


IC TO ALL OTHER NEIGHBORING STATES:

If any nation wishes to add their number to the partitioning and pacification of Sistan's hostile territories, please leave your submission in present here.

[OOC- i've made a reply in the Intl. Incidents thread. Please send a rep from your nations to the Tashkent accord, as I have no idea ICLy what is going on here and would rather like to try to work together on this.]

IC- The UARCA announces that forces are beginning to penetrate the border of ex-Sistani lands adjacent to it. These forces have been instructed to work with any Granatian forces they may encounter at a later period in time, as well as any RSA forces that may be encountered much deeper into ex-Sistani territory.

[ooc: sorry for being so intolerant icly, but you've got to realize that my people have lost thousands of people to Sistan and are "screaming for blood" - not that I'd do it icly... but I'm glad that you've icly made a reply... :) and thanks for recognizing the SIC aspect of the RSA - I don't know if many people recognize it, but at least one is better than none...]

IC: The Emirate is pleased to see the UARCA's willing cooperativeness in dealing with the Sistani threat. We will what we can do in terms of attending such an accord in Tashkent, while our planners are making arrangements at the moment.

SIC - Emirate forces of the Suez Army Group [40,000] have made headway into Arabicia, in order to support their troops in and around the UAE possessions. The Emirate has made final plans for the pacification of the territories and will likely draw some support from its limited bases in Bahrain, although most of the support will have to be from Arabicia. Actual ground operations have no yet commenced in either the UAE or Qatar.

We welcome Kopparberg's invitation to Vineyard, to add their honorable state to the RSA, since they were pivotal in many instances in their support of the RSA. There is little reason why not to add them to our ranks.
SIC

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The Kingdom of Kopparbergs

Vineyard,
We are inviting you to be a full member of the Red Sea Alliance. And we want to thank you for your support in the Red Sea War.

King Carl Gustaf XXI
Kingdom of Kopparbergs

OOC: This is the first post with my new, custom-made Coat of Arms for Kopparbergs.

-To all members of the Red Sea Alliance-

The Empire of Vineyard hereby accepts the invitation to join the red sea alliance. In light of recent events, our nations have gown a strong bond on the battlefield, and such a bond will hopefully echo not only through military means, but political and economic means as well. As we have just formed a bi-lateral alliance with ALM, we are more than happy to become part of this alliance.

-Regent Windsor

To: RSA Headquarters
From: Andrei Johnson, President of the UCR.

The United Caucasus Republic wishes to join this alliance. Although we don't have any land near the Red Sea, we were part of a Coalition to Defeat Sistan. We think that through that we were brought closer together and hope that joining this alliance will increase this friendship even more.\

Although our military isn't as large or as advanced as others, it is mobile and ready to fight. We will assist any RSA member where we can.

We hope to hear from you soon

Sincerely
Andrei Johnson
President of The United Caucasus Republic.

To: RSA Headquarters
From: Andrei Johnson, President of the UCR.

The United Caucasus Republic wishes to join this alliance. Although we don't have any land near the Red Sea, we were part of a Coalition to Defeat Sistan. We think that through that we were brought closer together and hope that joining this alliance will increase this friendship even more.\

Although our military isn't as large or as advanced as others, it is mobile and ready to fight. We will assist any RSA member where we can.

We hope to hear from you soon

Sincerely
Andrei Johnson
President of The United Caucasus Republic.


We endorse his request to join. Our previous experiences with this honorable nation were very good, and we hope to continue such relations in the future.

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The Kingdom of Kopparbergs

Re: The United Caucasus Republic
As we feel that we had UCR's full support all the time during the Red Sea War, we'll welcome this nation to join the Red Sea Alliance. The Kingdom of Kopparbergs are voting in favor for The United Caucasus Republic to join the Red Sea Alliance.

General Carl Hamilton
Secretary of Defense and Red Sea Alliance Administrator
Kingdom of Kopparbergs

The Emirate of Alif Laam Miim gratefully endorses the United Caucasian Republic's entry into the RSA, as their state has remained one of the pivotal supporters against Sistani aggression. Adding their numbers to the RSA cann only increase the political and military stability in the Middle East as well.

We are glad to say that Vineyard is an official member of the RSA, and as such, the RSA main site will be updated to accommodate the change.

As such, due to the deterioration of talks at Tashkent - exactly the sort of thing that the Emirate expected, as evidenced by the usurpers trying to force the RSA to validate their claims - the Emirate has begun to commence operations in the UAE, and support Arabician operations in Yemen and Oman. We will commence ground operations into Qatar soon, as well plan for landings in Bandar. In any event, Iraq, Kuwait, and Iran need to pacified, and the efforts of Granate are more than noble to help in this endeavor - another reason that their presence only adds to the stability of the region. However, both Kopparbergs and Vineyard need to finalize their preparations soon and begin engaging positions.

We strongly suggest heavy aerial strikes to soften the positions, and if Kopparbergs or Vineyard require assistance with this, we will gladly offer what we can to support your operations. In the end, the RSA will achieve its proper share of the spoils, regardless of non-RSA mediated intervention.

We also encourage Emirate allies - Warta Endor - to commence their operations to pacify Socotra soon.

The Emirate also proposes issuing this statement by the RSA as a collective whole:
"A warning to any forces intervening in Sistani territories without RSA mediation, your forces will vacate the territories and quit hostilies against these territories, as your intervention is neither warranted by the RSA nor justified by any conventional means. We strongly suggest that you take our word of caution."

End of comments here.

On an aside, we offer our encouragement to Vineyard as they commence assimilating Greece, and we hope that operations there are smooth. We have been having difficulty pacifying Malta, in lieu of the aggression on Cyprus, and since we have recently discovered that the inhabitants were once citizens of your empire, we hereby propose this conclusion:

If your Empire can willingly accept taking Malta back into your security, we will forfeit our claims to the island. As our position seems to have run us into some hardship, we are hoping that a return of Vineyard will pacify the population therein, and free up Emirate troops for operations elsewhere.

[ooc: this is just a reminder that these comments are all SIC, unless otherwise noted. Furthermore, even I'm addressing this to Vineyard, I did not note that it was SICly to Vineyard, so all members of the RSA may comment on this proposal].

The Kingdom of Kopparbergs does not have any kind of interest in Iran.
Or, to be honest, the only interest is that there should not be a new Sistan nation.
To get peace, we're ready to let UARCA have control over an (yet) unspecified area of Iran, bordering UARCA.

We don't think there will be a problem between Kopparbergs and Vineyard with the nations of Jordan and Syria, we'll come to an agreement.

The IDF forces inside Jordan and Syria has orders to continue to destroy Sistani installations, but there are really not much of them. As we have understood the situation, they almost ran through both Syria and Jordan, without worrying about securing the areas. Our planes have destroyed virtually every tank and artillery in Syria, in Jordan there are a couple left. We have taken about 5,000 Sistani POW's and brought them to Jerusalem.

General Carl Hamilton
Secretary of Defense and Red Sea Alliance Administrator
Kingdom of Kopparbergs

IC - ALM forces have begun combat operations in the UAE. Support operations in Qatar have begun, but no ground offensive has started. Even as Sistani forces outnumber ALM coalition forces, we are bringing support units to assist, and our intention is not to engage the Sistani troops directly, but provide enough power to dissuade their fanatical forces to desist their fighting. Furthermore, given blockades in effect, Sistani troops are not likely to maintain good morale and supply limits.

Current schematics of troop strengths - based on good guesses given by Sistan before his ban and the subsequent bombings:

ALM - 40000 troops, with Arabician and Emirate air support
Sistani forces in UAE - 80,000 troops

Additionally, Emirate and Warta Endor fleets completed elimination of the Sistani fleet in the Arabian Gulf. Critical to this attack was the presence of Warta Endor submarines, which quickly destroyed Sistan's aerial threat with its ten makeshift aircraft carriers. Furthermore, the lack of coordination among Sistan vessels made it extremely easy to disable the Sistani fleet, where most of the Sistani vessels were either sent back to Warta Endor or the Emirate for scuttling and salvaging or destroyed and sent to the bottom of the Gulf. The Ministry of Defense gladly announced that the Arabian Gulf was free from Sistani threats and the region was once again open to all vessels, military and otherwise.

SIC - We urge all RSA members to come to an agreement about the territories to be partitioned, since there are rogue states that are carving the territory as we speak. Notably, if this territory falls into their hands first, it will be much more difficult to secure.

Additionally, as our fleet committed combat operations in the Arabian Gulf with the Warta Endor fleet [as had been planned for the longest time], elements of our transport and support vessels entered the Persian Gulf with notable aerial and naval support. These vessels will be able to commence operations to prepare for a landing at or near Bandar in the near future. In the meantime, they are resupplying in Bahrain.

The UCR has been in Operation Thunderstrike for quite some time now. Even as we speak, UCR Forces are advancing father south in Iran. Just within the past day we captured Tabriz and are currently nearing Rasht on the coast. We may need to move some of our reserves into the fray but we will pacify the region and assimilate it.

We are sorry we can't assist other RSA members in their pacification of Sistani territory,

We accept ALM's proposal. We know there are various factions within most of our Former Territory, some of which would like to see our return to power. We will reassimilate the region back into the Empire. We will be sending 25,000 Reservists to pacify the Island ASAP.

As for our involvement in the former Sistani territories, we are currently planning a series of Surgical Strikes with local insurgencies to eliminate the Sistani Remenants leadership. Our goal is not to fight his forces tooth and nail, but to convince them to surrender peacefully, or else we will have a gargantuine struggle ahead of us. We shall announce the rusults of our pending raids at a later date.

Also, do note that the Nation of DP has pulled out of Cyprus and has forefit its claims in Cyprus to the Empire. We will be sending part of the 2ed battlegroup to pacify that region as well.

In addition to the 3ed battlegroup being in Syria and Jordan coordinating attacks with the forces of Kopparsbergs, we will be deploying an additional 100,000 reservists to the region.


ooc: I will be gone for a few days on a camping Trip. Remember, Kopparsbergs has command of the 3ed battlegroup (Italica) in Syria and Jordan, as well as an additional 100,000 reservists.

The UCR would like to report that we have assimilated the following provinces and are proceeding to clear them of resistance and Sistani forces.
1. Ardabil
2. East Azerbaijan
3. West Azerbaijan
4. Kurdistan
5. Gilan
6. Zanjan (Still proceeding in assimilating)

Following the UCR's original plan and augmenting it a little we are most likely going to Annex these provinces due to their large Azeri population. If that is the case the following Provincial Revisions will be made.
A. The East and West Azerbaijan provinces will be merged and called Iranian Azerbaijan. It will not be associated with Azerbaijan in any way.
B. Gilan, Zanjan, and Ardabil will merge to become Zanjan. Capitol will be at Zanjan.
C. Kurdistan will be a Semi-Autonomous State for the Kurdish people. All defense and public transportation will be made through the UCR Goverment whilst everything else will be done by the Kurds themselves.

We hope this will work for the RSA.

The Emirate is very pleased to see progress on the UCR front. We will be certain that Vineyard, Arabicia, and Kopparbergs will take a more pro-active stance to root out the Sistani threat.

Emirate forces are already preparing to attack Bandar, in accordance with agreements with Arabicia. However, this is likely to take some before we can perform the invasion. Nonetheless, our troops training in Kopparbergs are nearing combat-readiness, and as such will be join our units out in the UAE.

Positive notes from this campaign - Sistani threats on the UAE have been neutralized effectively. However, actual control the territory remains a wary task, as Sistani forces have demonstrated inhuman resistance, owing in part to their fanatic ideologies. Nonetheless, our forces have managed to hold Dubai and parts of Abu Dhabi. The remainder is still in contention. Furthermore, we will begin our Qatar campaign soon enough, after which case, we can commence operations to cross the Straits of Hormuz and seize Bandar Abbas and the Hormozgan Province.

If Granate needs any assistance in rooting out the problems in their assimilated territories, the Emirate would be glad to send some troops or support units to crush Sistani resistance.

Furthermore, our forces in Crete have finally finished the last of their pacification operations, and are preparing to move on Rhodes [the island]. Malta has been vacated, as Vineyardian troops resume their occupation of the island, to restore order to the island. The Emirate maintains its interest to offer reparations to those families who were unfortunately affected by the run.

On our last note, Emirate forces in Sudan are preparing for an attack on Asherton [ironically, since Asherton hasn't been as active in recent weeks - his last log was 2006AUG31]. In the interest to restore order in that country after Sistani intervention and furthermore rectify the human rights violations incurred by the Sistani and Asherton governments, in a case of genocide, the Emirate will assume operations in about a year. In the meantime, events in Chad and the Central African Republic have been disturbing our forces in the Sudan, as their troops continually violate our sovereign rights to our Sudanese territory, and as such - while none of these incursions have been serious or disruptive to the civilian population - it become a nuissance, such that we'd rather deal with this forcefully than not. We will likely assume operations after the Asherton threat has been neutralized. [ooc: whether or not Asherton is active, there will be a war, but after I'm done in Sistan - I guess I've got to work out another red list...]

To: SIBAT
From: Minister of Finance Hans Grumman

After much debate with the Parliament the UCR is pround to announce that it will be allowing Foreign Defense Industries to build factories and/or testing Facilities on UCR soil. This will allow for both the Industries that wish to come here to expand and to help build up the UCR Economy.

SIBAT was at the top of our lists. We wish to fomally invite your Company first before anyone elses seeing as how you are helping to reshape our military.

We hope to hear from you soon

Sincerely
Hans Grumman
Minister of Finance, United Caucasian Republics.
We find this offer interesting, and would like to come to UCR and discuss further details.

SIBAT is only the State of Israel's export forum for defense equipment, SIBAT doesn't have any kind of production. There are many different corporations in Israel, which manufactures the equipment. A couple of examples are Israel Military Industries Ltd, Israel Aircraft Industries, Tel HaShomer Armoured Corps, RAFAEL, Soltam Ltd. and Tadiran Electronic Industries.

We will talk to these corporations, and then we'll set together a delegation for the visit in UCR.

George Lilja
Secretary of Industry
The Kingdom of Kopparbergs

We find this offer interesting, and would like to come to UCR and discuss further details.

SIBAT is only the State of Israel's export forum for defense equipment, SIBAT doesn't have any kind of production. There are many different corporations in Israel, which manufactures the equipment. A couple of examples are Israel Military Industries Ltd, Israel Aircraft Industries, Tel HaShomer Armoured Corps, RAFAEL, Soltam Ltd. and Tadiran Electronic Industries.

We will talk to these corporations, and then we'll set together a delegation for the visit in UCR.

George Lilja
Secretary of Industry
The Kingdom of Kopparbergs

To: George Lilja
From: Hans Grumman

We are willing to allow you to build any number of the Corporations here on UCR Soil. We just wish to have a closer to home plant for our Military Equipment. In return for allowing you to build here we will purchase more equipment from, at a discount hopefully.

We hope to hear from you and your delegation soon.

Sincerely
Hans Grumman
Minister of Finace , The UCR.

The Emirate - while not condoning the current position of UARCA troops - would like to stress that a war with the UARCA under any circumstance should be avoided to whatever possible extent, without caving to appeasement or bullying to belligerence. If such arrangements can be made for a peaceable division in Iran, let it be made, as long as the ultimate interests of the RSA are thus maintained in such arrangements.

An update from the Arabian theater:
With mutual support from the Emirate, Arabician forces have made significant progress in Oman and Yemen, liberating the countries from Sistani and Arms of Allah followers. Random firefights still erupt in Sanaa, although the majority of Yemen is firmly undere Arabician authority. In Oman, Muscat has been secured, while the majority of Arm of Allah followers are currently hiding in Omani country side. Arabician and ALM forces are preparing to finally crush the remainder of the resistance and remnants of Sistani military forces. In conjunction with ALM progresses in the UAE, Qatar remains the last serious bastion of Sistani forces. ALM forces have been recuping from the UAE and Oman to prepare for a major offensive there, to end Sistani occupation there and prepare for our mutual assault on Bandar Abbas and portions of the Hormozgan Province.

The Emirate has commenced operations in Qatar. With Arabician support, we are likely to conclude operations within the year's end. Ground offensives will commence. In addition, the 7th Army Group has finished training in the Negev Desert with Kopparbergs units. They will be joining the campaign in Qatar soon. Our fleet has also finished exercises leading to an amphibious attack on Bandar Abbas.

-SIC Telegram to all RSA nations-

The very alliance that houses and protects the nations of Military command and DP, which have given us such greif in the past, is under attack by Sharina. The Nation of Vineyard, while taking a neutural stance, is interested in aiding Sharina in a subtle way and invites its allies to do so as well.

When we say subtle, we mean helping them politically, perhaps allowing their troops safe-haven in our lands, etc... We b elieve this action will give us a powerful friend in the Americas, while diminishing the power and strength of those who would oppose us.

On account of our continuing friendly relations with United Netherlands, the Emirate is somewhat receptive to showing political support of another great friend - Sharina. We will do what we can to ensure that the best possible conclusion arrives to us, but the Emirate must stress that regardless of existing treaties between the Emirate and our allies, the Emirate will not go to war on account of an alliance declaring hostilies against another alliance. Our unofficial goes to FOAM, but again on account of the Iberian Netherlands, we cannot allow these relations to diminish.

Emirate forces attacking Qatar have commenced ground operations, seeking a quick and painless conclusion. Of the 40,000 troops involved in the attack on the UAE, around 10,000 have transferred temporary command to the 7th Army Group, which began combat operations just last night [IC - although RL works as well]. Here's a summary of the forces involved in Qatar.

ALM - 60,000 [including 10,000 from Army Group 3]
Sistan - 15,000 [on his ORBAT, only two brigades were listed to Qatar, but I'm guessing that he'd have some free radicals supporting him - plus, it wasn't officially Sistani territory to begin with]

Operations are likely to be swift, but given Sistan's alrerady unreal fanaticism, it is likely that lingering conflicts will continue for months to come.

here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11743432&postcount=679)

On account of our continuing friendly relations with United Netherlands, the Emirate is somewhat receptive to showing political support of another great friend - Sharina. We will do what we can to ensure that the best possible conclusion arrives to us, but the Emirate must stress that regardless of existing treaties between the Emirate and our allies, the Emirate will not go to war on account of an alliance declaring hostilies against another alliance. Our unofficial goes to FOAM, but again on account of the Iberian Netherlands, we cannot allow these relations to diminish.

We are completely dead-set against joining the war, however, we believe that any cause that is against the hostile EATO nations should be smiled opon, even if that's all that we do. Our nation plans to offer a safe-haven for any Sharina troops caught in Europe, but will NOT join the war what so ever.

SIC as usual:

We will not support Sharina, neither military nor politically. We want to have friendly relations with our neighbor north of Morocco, Iberian Netherlands (OOC: I believe that’s the new name of United Netherlands), and we don’t think that’s possible if we’re allowing Sharina’s troops to land somewhere in Kopparbergs.

And BTW, we don’t like Sharina’s threat against Great Romeo regarding Costa Rica.

General Carl Hamilton
Red Sea Administrator
Kingdom of Kopparbergs

SIC as per the usual here
The UCR will not support either group. We have not had any contact with Sharina and the contact we've had with the EATO hasn't been pleasant to say the least. As of now the UCR is staying Neutral in the conflict and will be not be host to any peace talks between them. It would seem that neither sees the UCR as an Enemy to be afraid of nor an ally to be hold dear.

This is the UCR's official policy, but it will stand by whatever the RSA policy it makes as well.

Andrei Johnson
President, The United Caucasian Republics.

ooc: I said that everything is SIC on here, so you technically shouldn't have to write SIC, but you know... someone might come in and do whatever ["I didn't read SIC so it's IC..."] and that nonsense. Again, this is an ooc reminder, which I will periodically post. If you want to direct a comment, other than a general SIC to the RSA members, you MUST state otherwise, or else all RSA members will know of the conversation.

Enough with this jogging...

SIC [only because I had ooc...]:

The Emirate proposes to make it such that the official policy of the RSA in general is that of unsolicited neutrality. Any extraneous efforts to support either members of EATO, members of FOAM, parties not involved with any alliance but still involved in the war, and any other extraneous matter concerning official support shall be considered unilateral efforts of that nation to promote policies in which it feels leads to the best possible conclusion. Of course, everyone in this alliance ought to be going to a diplomatic and peaceful resolution, as it is in our utmost interest that war remains beneath the covers. But of course, the dialogues suggest that two powers are ready to let off some blood to ease the tensions.

On a side note, the Emirate is well pleased to see nearly unanimous [looks to sleeping Arabician delegate - and yes, he's still here] accord to remain neutral in this conflict. On other subjects yet again, the Emirate is making steady progress, having reached the urban districts of Doha.

We want to inform the RSA that we now have Morocco under our control. The last pockets of resistance are maybe yet to find, but all in all we're having everything under control.

We also want to inform you that we're going to build a large military base on the Cape Verde Islands. We're there to take it under our control as we speak. We're really not expecting hard resistance, and we're trying to take the military control over the islands without making to much damage.

If it bequeaths anyone, the Emirate will commence operations against the last remnant of Sistan - Asherton. Their government has been completely unresponsive since Sistan collapsed, and likewise our needs to preserve the seucrity of the Middle East remains threatened by their existence. As such, next year, ALM forces will begin operations. While we do require any major assistance, we invite any RSA members mutually interested in the elimination of the last remaining extremist-state threat in the Middle East to come. Otherwise, we will pacify the region ourselves. Furthermore, while it is still on the boards, the General Staff has drafted plans for a swift invasion of Chad and CAR, due to the frequent incursion of their forces in Emirate territory. Already, our own forces have inflicted damages upon their forces, but it is quite apparent that neither the CAR nor Chad governments have effective control of their military forces. As such, we will control it for them if they refuse to respect our sovereignty.

ALM combat operations in Qatar have officially ended, although there are sparse fights in isolated urban areas. The ALM Command is seeking to end the fighting and institute a return to order for both Qatar and the UAE.

On a side note, ALM forces in Crete have finished their mission and have reverted official control to the Emir, who appointed the first governor of the island today. While the Emirate officially decides the foreign policy, the budget, and at times the leader of Crete, the local government is encouraged to perform most of its own services and leadership. As such, the island of Crete has been declared a semi-autonomous territory of the Emirate.

While forces in Sudan prepare for engagements with the Sudan, the elements of the ALM Armed Forces in the newly established Dubai Military District - temporarily established in Manama - have been begun to prepare for military operations to establish a front in Hormozgan Province. Military planners are calling for more troops to assist the operations, but the official stance is undetermined. There have been suggestions to transfer lead elements of the 4th Army Group [Tripoli], which recently undertook amphibious operations in Crete, and use their experience to train the units for an invasion on on Bandar Abbas. At the current moment, the military resources in that province are being shelled by ALM forces, to soften the resistance, although some commanders suggest that it's wasteful, collaterally destructive, and likewise gives hints to the enemy that the Emirate intends to land there.

Likewise, we encourage all RSA members to attend the completion of the Qattar Project - as it will be one of the industrial milestones of the Emirate since the Suez Canal [Aswan High Dam doesn't exist in this setting]. Furthermore, soon thereafter, the Emir will be celebrating the rise of the Royal Children, Aziz and Ismail. We hope that everyone decides to come to both events!

-SIC to RSA-

-Kopparsbergs: We will agree to your annexation of Jordan, but do note that you will owe us a favor in the future. We shall hold you to it.

ALL RSA NATIONS: The Empire' Military Liasons in Great Romeo have been told about a possible attack by Sharina on GR's fleet. As you all well know, the Empire and GR are the sole members of the BS Alliance, meaning that if Sharina does indeed attack Costarica, and does indeed attack GR's fleet in International Waters, we will be forced to enter the wars, and will have to suspend all of our activity against sistan (Baring 25,000 troops under granate). We are appalled that Sharina would do this, knowing full well the Empire's Obligations to GR, but their true agressive intent has been seen by Vineyardian Anylists in recent weeks. We would appreciate your nominal support if we do go to war against Sistan, but we do not expect or demand that you join us.

-Regent Windsor

-SIC to RSA-

-Kopparsbergs: We will agree to your annexation of Jordan, but do note that you will owe us a favor in the future. We shall hold you to it.

ALL RSA NATIONS: The Empire' Military Liasons in Great Romeo have been told about a possible attack by Sharina on GR's fleet. As you all well know, the Empire and GR are the sole members of the BS Alliance, meaning that if Sharina does indeed attack Costarica, and does indeed attack GR's fleet in International Waters, we will be forced to enter the wars, and will have to suspend all of our activity against sistan (Baring 25,000 troops under granate). We are appalled that Sharina would do this, knowing full well the Empire's Obligations to GR, but their true agressive intent has been seen by Vineyardian Anylists in recent weeks. We would appreciate your nominal support if we do go to war against Sistan, but we do not expect or demand that you join us.

-Regent Windsor
Regent Windsor, Vineyard
Jordan is under our control now, maybe with small pockets of resistance in a couple of places but nothing serious.

We are ready to turn Jordan over in your control. Our plans have changed, and we do not want to take the responsibility for the country.

If you want to take control over Jordan, you can take it over whenever you want to. We will have the necessary amount of troops there to maintain stability, but we will not begin with the work of installing a new government and such. If you don't want to have Jordan, we'll stay there until we find a solution for the country.

Our stance is to remain neutral in the uprising conflict in South America. But our support is not leaning to the one who eventually will start the conflict, and we will NEVER forget what you did for us in the Red Sea war!

King Carl Gustaf XXI
Kingdom of Kopparbergs

[ooc check: who owns the following?

Syria -
Jordan -
Iraq -
Lebanon -
]

SIC in general:

The Emirate is beginning plans to assault Hormozgan. We hope that this break into the Sistani rear will help pull back Sistani forces and help out campaigns in the west. We also would encourage a separate landing in Beshashr(?), to capitalize on this event.

In other news, we are stilling awaiting final envoys from Asherton, who has repeatedly ignored our calls for change and peace. We feel that only a general invasion will solve this problem.

Furthermore, we wish to offer our sincere support for Vineyard, as they begin to fulfill their alliance obligations beyond those of the RSA. We understand that were the Emirate in a similar circumstance that they would do the same for us, so it is only out of our mutual respect and desire for peace that we lend our support. We would strongly encourage Vineyard, moreover to help mediate the conflict between Great Romeo and Sharina [although there are skeptics who suggest that we are beyond making amends at this point]. In all things, As Salaam Alaikum, Vineyard.

But our support is not leaning to the one who eventually will start the conflict, and we will NEVER forget what you did for us in the Red Sea war!

[ooc: I read about three times, before I could get any implication that the connotation of your "NEVER" was actually a good one... you ought to separate the sentences, because I thought that you were chastising Vineyard for his involvement in the Red Sea War...which didn't make sense...]

ooc responce to ALM: I am supposed to be Controling Syria , Iraq, Kuwait, and now apparently Jordan. As to whom will control lebenon, we are unsure.

-IC (SIC MESSAGE)-

We will accept Jordan into our Empire once again, Kopparsbergs has our thanks.

Anyhow, we will be redeploying the 2ed Battlegroup to Uelen with about 50,000 reservists, and the 1st and 3ed (along with about 100,000 reservists) will be redeployed in conjunction with any EATO operations in the Americas. The 4th will be invading Angola, as our nation currently has a domestic cloth and agricultural product defecit. We would appreciate your support in this Endevor, as we try to re-assimilate and subdue former elements of the Empire, such as Angola.

Also, as the war progresses, we will try to stave off a few batallions of reservists to the RSA front.

Regards,

Regent Windsor. Reigning Soverign, Lord General, and Regent of the Vineyardian Empire.

The Emirate has received reports from our survey satellites that UARCA forces have settled into their current positions in Iran. While there are supposed troop movements, our intel suggests that the UARCA is rather building up defenses than preparing for an invasion, as suspected auxiliary units are joining with the fronts, likely to perform reconstruction projects. However, we are uncertain about these moves in Iran, and will likely continue to monitor the situation. The majority of Iran is unnervingly quiet, with a few exceptions.

We're going to send out a fleet to liberate the island of Socotra from the remaining Sistan-troops. We're aware of the fact that Warta Endor was going to do that, but he seems to "have his ass busy", and we have decided to help him with this mission. The fleet will also have orders to destroy any Asherton-vessels found on the Red Sea.

In the end, we want make a deal with Warta Endor. Maybe a shared military base on the island for both Warta Endor and the RSA.

The fleet leaving Eilat later today consist of:

Eilat De Gaulle (Aircraft carrier, Charles De Gaulle class. We have bought three from Military Command.)
3 Dolphin Class Submarines
3 Eilat class Sa'ar 5 corvettes
3 Hetz/Nirit Sa'ar 4.5 Missile craft
5 Super Dvora Patrol boats


Another note: According to our intelligence reports, the Sistani-troops in Lebanon have fled into Syria. We will check this up.

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General Carl Hamilton
Secretary of Defense, Red Sea Alliance Administrator
Kingdom of Kopparbergs

To: Leaders of Red Sea Alliance
Fr: The United Federation of Military Command

The Government of United Federation of Military Command would like to know what is the position of the Red Sea Alliance with the shape of things in the Amercias? We are hoping to avoid a world war because of the way things are taking shapes. We are hoping not to have to fight a close friend. We have also turned over all our holdings in the Americas over to the CSA.

SIC to Military Command, copy to the RSA.
To: The United Federation of Military Command
From: General Carl Hamilton, Red Sea Alliance Administrator, Kingdom of Kopparbergs

Officially we are neutral in the South America disturbances. We hope there will continue to be peace in the region.
Unofficially, the Kingdom of Kopparbergs will never support Sharina.
Note that this is not the official stance of the RSA, this is the Kingdoms' position.

General Carl Hamilton
Red Sea Alliance Administrator
Kingdom of Kopparbergs

The UCR doesn't support anyone and hopes that the conflict will just go away.

Sincerely
President Andrei Johnson.

To: Leaders of Red Sea Alliance
Fr: The United Federation of Military Command

The Government of United Federation of Military Command would like to know what is the position of the Red Sea Alliance with the shape of things in the Amercias? We are hoping to avoid a world war because of the way things are taking shapes. We are hoping not to have to fight a close friend. We have also turned over all our holdings in the Americas over to the CSA.

SIC reply:

We believe that the official position of the RSA is to remain outside of the conflict at all possible costs. There are some members have outside interests that do not involve the RSA, but nonetheless involve them. In such case, that is an independent action of that nation, and thus permits those in the RSA withoutt contacts to remain outside the conflict.

Officially from the Emirate, we think that the situation is severely overblown and needs to be rationally discussed with plausible solutions to avoid a major conflict. Whereas there are some circles in the Emirate who believe that the situation is beyond debate, we will not give up diplomacy, and we would encourage all involved parties to continue discussions - while maintaining a reasonable balance of military preparation, should the worst possible conclusion arise.

Whatever does happen, the Emirate will continue to provide equal opportunity to both parties, and thus reserve Emirate territory as official neutral territory between both parties while they are present within Emirate territory. As such, any hostilies taken within Emirate territory that is reserved for the conflict abroad will not bring a friendly response from the ALM coalition, and furthermore we would encourage that if conflict erupt that all involved parties maintain a limited scope of the conflict.

We suggest that the Red Sea Alliance should have a Headquarter. We suggest that this headquarter should be in Cairo, as the city is somewhere in the middle of the Red Sea Alliance.
The headquarter should not be a big thing, just a building where we will have some personnel that does the daily routines, and maybe one General (or equal) from each of the member states.

General Carl Hamilton
Red Sea Alliance Administrator
Kingdom of Kopparbergs

-To all RSA members-

Although we are hurt that ALM did not invite us to the opening of their Quattra Project, we will over look this when considering the location for a RSA headquarters. However, we recommend that the Alliance ramain true to its name, despite the fact that members outside of the Redsea area are being recruted. Although we are supportive of recruiting members out-side of the region, we wish to maintain some symbolicism in connection to the RSA. We here-by request that any city put under consideration be located on the Red Sea Coast, such as Mecca or the Port of Sudan.

However, we believe that we should take a step further. The Empire of Vineyard hereby proposes the creation of a "RSA council" to discuss, determine, and officialize RSA responce to any and all world events.


-Regent Windsor

-To all RSA members-

Although we are hurt that ALM did not invite us to the opening of their Quattra Project, we will over look this when considering the location for a RSA headquarters. However, we recommend that the Alliance ramain true to its name, despite the fact that members outside of the Redsea area are being recruted. Although we are supportive of recruiting members out-side of the region, we wish to maintain some symbolicism in connection to the RSA. We here-by request that any city put under consideration be located on the Red Sea Coast, such as Mecca or the Port of Sudan.

However, we believe that we should take a step further. The Empire of Vineyard hereby proposes the creation of a "RSA council" to discuss, determine, and officialize RSA responce to any and all world events.


-Regent Windsor

[ooc: I invited everyone with whom I have official diplomatic contacts. I only posted a list of those who told me that they would be attending... but if you want, I can add you into the list, since not everyone has posted that they havve arrived. The Emir is officially hosting the crowd; the highlight will be a speech, something like my Manama coronation speech.]

SIC reply to HQ proposal:

We strongly suggest avoiding a major city like Al-Qahirah, as it would be a major target for many militaristic nations. Furthermore, there are elements of society that run deep that would not be conducive to good business [i.e. espionage]. The Vineyardian proposal for Jiddah [as Makkah is not a port city...] or Port Sudan is a good choice, but we'd offer suggest either Eilat or Sharm ash Shaykh as viable locations, as they are more central to RSA interests and furthermore they are more readily accessible to our members.

However, if it is the general consensus that AL-Qahirah will host, we will make provisions to allot a sector to host the site. But again, we suggest the above sites as more secure, more central, and perhaps even more strategic.

We likewise support the foundation of an RSA council, as it only helps to consolidate our regional and alliance policies more effectively if we have more people to run the operations. The Emirate has long been reserving a portion of its military and civilian personel to serve as liaisons between our allies in the RSA, and providing a central location for all of our delegations would help ease cooperation between our parties.

[ooc: I'm drafting a charter for the RSA, since it seems that this alliance is really starting to take shape and it'd look really nice if we have a set draft to say - "This is what we do" sort of thing; I'd love to have feedback from everyone, including Vineyard and Granate.]

[ooc: I'm drafting a charter for the RSA, since it seems that this alliance is really starting to take shape and it'd look really nice if we have a set draft to say - "This is what we do" sort of thing; I'd love to have feedback from everyone, including Vineyard and Granate.]

OOc: Woops, my bad

Anyhow, in regards to a charter, the Empire will support it so long as it does not create a RSA-central army; in short, an international army under the command of the RSA alliance as a whole. An army has to be decisive, and in order to do that, it cannot me made to accept conflicting intrests.

Besides that, the Empire will support a charter that creates a central council that runs and operates RSA Pollitical and Diplomatic operations. As to the economics of the RSA, the Empire encourages economic cooperation and trade, but beyond that, the Empire would never accept anything to regulate economies, as the Empire's economic structure is Unique in Earth V.

OOc: Woops, my bad

Anyhow, in regards to a charter, the Empire will support it so long as it does not create a RSA-central army; in short, an international army under the command of the RSA alliance as a whole. An army has to be decisive, and in order to do that, it cannot me made to accept conflicting intrests.

Besides that, the Empire will support a charter that creates a central council that runs and operates RSA Pollitical and Diplomatic operations. As to the economics of the RSA, the Empire encourages economic cooperation and trade, but beyond that, the Empire would never accept anything to regulate economies, as the Empire's economic structure is Unique in Earth V.

We have no interest to form an army using RSA member forces. It seems pointless that the Alliance should have its own army. First of all, each member has better control of its own forces, and it should remain as such. Secondly, the maintenance of an army for an alliance whose nature is to maintain peace is somewhat misleading, as an army naturally inclines an alliance to militarism. Thirdly, the maintenance of an alliance army immediately puts favor upon those states whose armed forces are more organized and more developed. Fourthly, in the event of a conflict in which a member is involved but not the RSA, a good portion of that state's manpower is being detained in a purpose that could be otherwise used for that own states's defensive requirements. Fifthly, we would have to budget the RSA to include costs for the maintenance of an army, which would be inefficient given that these units are already under the maintenance of the states from which these soldiers come. Sixthly, each member ought to rely on its own national forces than the alliance forces, as it would inherently tie foreign troops in a state with little defense capability on its own. Seventhly, in addition to the costs, the RSA would have to allot territory from RSA members to base these troops. In sum, it is much better that the Alliance simply remain a political pact to preserve the peace and stability in the Middle East.

A charter would in effect codify the obligations of states in accordance to each other and to the Alliance in general. While it creates a certain set of obligations - obligations that would exist under implicit standards for any general alliance - it would not inherently impose responsibilities of any detriment upon any state. Furthermore, the Alliance itself is a medium through which the interests of all members can be better amplified and supported by mutually cooperative states with similar interests.


On another note, the Emirate has commenced operations in Hormozgan. Our beachhead in Bandar Abbas is small at the moment, but with much support and a planned second front, we hope to relieve the pressure and extend our control out farther into the province. We strongly encourage the RSA to commence general operations against Sistani forces in Iraq, Kuwait, and western Iran.

We have no interest to form an army using RSA member forces. It seems pointless that the Alliance should have its own army. First of all, each member has better control of its own forces, and it should remain as such. Secondly, the maintenance of an army for an alliance whose nature is to maintain peace is somewhat misleading, as an army naturally inclines an alliance to militarism. Thirdly, the maintenance of an alliance army immediately puts favor upon those states whose armed forces are more organized and more developed. Fourthly, in the event of a conflict in which a member is involved but not the RSA, a good portion of that state's manpower is being detained in a purpose that could be otherwise used for that own states's defensive requirements. Fifthly, we would have to budget the RSA to include costs for the maintenance of an army, which would be inefficient given that these units are already under the maintenance of the states from which these soldiers come. Sixthly, each member ought to rely on its own national forces than the alliance forces, as it would inherently tie foreign troops in a state with little defense capability on its own. Seventhly, in addition to the costs, the RSA would have to allot territory from RSA members to base these troops. In sum, it is much better that the Alliance simply remain a political pact to preserve the peace and stability in the Middle East.

ooc: Thats exactly what I was requesting, NOT forming any sort of alliance army.

The UCR Agrees to the formation of a RSA Headquarters. We agree that it should be somewhere ALM Territory. We also agree to the formation of a RSA Council. We will provide as many troops as you need for the building and protection of the Headquarters.

The UCR would also like to announce the beginning of Operation: Lightning Bolt (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=11774883#post11774883)

After reconsidering the suggestions of the HQ's location, our vote is for Sharm ash Shaykh. And with the Ophira Int'l Airport in close proximity we think that this is the right choice. (And besides, the city was under Israeli control between 1967 and 1982.)

We also agree to not form a Red Sea Army.

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General Carl Hamilton
Red Sea Alliance Administrator
Kingdom of Kopparbergs

We will soon be ready to present a draft of the charter.

The Emirate submits this draft for the charter. We believe that it is very concise, but granted, there will be provisions that might have been overlooked, or likewise provisions that are too specific. We wish to hear the feedback from our allies.

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Charter of the Red Sea Alliance

WE, the venerable governments of the Red Sea Alliance [hereafter RSA], to understand our obligations, to acknowledge our relationships, to affirm the true bonds of our alliance, to share common and mutual interests, and to preserve peace and security in the Red Sea region and in neighboring regions, hereby pledge our support to uphold the provisions of this charter, which shall serve as the template for the procedures applicable to the RSA and its affairs therein.

Article I

All member states of the RSA hereby oblige themselves to promoting the official policy and interests of the RSA, decided in general consensus among its members.

a) Members may pursue other interests other than those explicitly stated by the RSA, if in doing so would promote their own national interests that do not conflict with RSA standards.
b) Members may join as many alliances as deemed fit for their own national security, if in doing so would promote their own national interests and do not conflict with RSA standards.
c) Members may opt to withdraw from the RSA, if in doing so preserves their national sovereignty and security – albeit retained members may opt to deal with each withdrawal case as deemed fit for RSA interests.
d) Members cannot actively engage in any sort of policy or interest that inherently destabilizes the nature of the RSA and likewise poses a threat to other member states, even if doing so would be in their national interests or otherwise the interests of another alliance or organization.
e) The purpose of the RSA is maintain peace and security in the Red Sea region and neighboring regions [hereafter the Middle East]; RSA members will enforce and effect policies and pursue interests that actively seek to uphold this purpose by whatever means deemed necessary in general consensus among the member state.

Article II

All members of the RSA hereby pledge to support one another in war and peace, in manners decided in general consensus among RSA members, and likewise in mutual bilateral exchanges.

a) Members may not pursue hostility of any kind against any other RSA member.
b) The allies of member states are not officially allies of the RSA, and while no member state is forbidden from pursuing hostility against the allies of other member states, it is nonetheless encouraged that members maintain amiable relations with the allies of other member states.
c) In war, an attack upon any member state by any other foreign state, alliance, or organization is rendered a direct attack upon all RSA members – regardless of any secondary relations with the aggressors that any other member of the RSA would have.
d) Any attack upon an RSA member that is directed with the full intent to harm or incapacitate that member’s ability to sovereign rule – an attack that is not in conjunction with any other present conflict in which the member is already involved – shall be considered a direct attack, in which case the offended member may formally appeal to seek or decline assistance – otherwise, all members are obliged to render their full support for the offended member.
e) If a member state is drawn into an outside conflict due to circumstances of national interest or of the interests of another alliance that does not involve other RSA members, the other members have no obligation to assist the member in conflict; likewise, it is the obligation of RSA members to remain at the minimum a neutral stance in the war, such that any declaration would not hurt or hinder the progress of the member at war.
f) Members are strongly encouraged not to wage wars of aggression against other states, as this would go against the basic principles of the RSA – that is to preserve peace and security in the Middle East.
g) If a conflict involving two RSA members arises, it is the obligation of all members to mediate the conflict and find an appropriate resolution to the matter, to avoid escalating the tensions within the RSA to an extent that renders cooperation impractical.
h) Members are encouraged to continue and sponsor very healthy and cooperative economic, military, social, political, and ideological relations, not to force any nation to change its particular interests, but more to improve such relationships that a cooperative venture by the RSA in general will be more successful and efficient.

Article III

All members of the RSA hereby pledge to establish a formal Council, to be the formal forum that decides the policy and interest of the RSA.

a) The Council shall be a setting in which all members are considered equal and equally decisive in determining the policy.
b) The Council shall not be an instrument to effect the national interests or policy of any particular member, but more to support and likewise to determine the general interests – those that do not infringe on the sovereignty and the interests – of all members.
c) The Council shall not decide the official policy of any member’s government or state, unless the government or state are effecting policies and pursuing interests that run contrary to the principles and policies of the RSA.
d) The Council shall have no mandatory schedule to which to adhere; all members present are required to attend any and all emergency sessions of the Council, if and when the situation sanctions the actions.
e) The Council shall be accorded the power to declare war upon a foreign entity, to declare sanctions upon a foreign entity, to declare official policies for the RSA, to determine diplomatic exchanges for the RSA, and otherwise to declare any important decision officially; such power is warranted only under the circumstance of a unanimous vote by all RSA members.
f) The official headquarters of the Council shall be established in [wherever we decide].
g) For any decisions, not involving the declaration of war, sanctions, official policy, diplomatic exchanges, and otherwise any important decision, a general majority is required for the Council to adopt such measures.
h) Neither the Council nor the RSA organization have the authority to draft any armed force for the purpose of maintaining an allied force under the jurisdiction of the RSA in general; the RSA cannot likewise attain the jurisdiction and command of forces under the command of any member state.

Article IV

Membership in the RSA shall be decided by the ratification of this charter by the prospective state and a unilateral acceptance by all current RSA members present.

a) All RSA members must ratify this charter, including any and all amendments therein addressed, before becoming a member of the RSA.
b) As a member, all RSA members share equal rights and responsibilities within the RSA organization and Council.
c) Membership is not primarily restricted to those states bordering the Red Sea, but it is more oriented to those states that share a mutual interest to preserve peace and stability in the Middle East, with applicable and practical reasons to do so.
d) Membership shall not be denied on account of a member’s relative inability to act as a powerful or strong state in the international setting, but more upon their willingness to promote the interest of the RSA.
e) Members who join the RSA while at war with another foreign state, organization or alliance, do not and cannot oblige RSA members to assist them in this war, which in its nature falls beyond the obligations of any member; however, it is permissible that the RSA may elect to offer assistance formally if the situation sanctions the action and the circumstance is right to promote RSA interests.
f) Members who fail to adhere to the basic principles and policies of the RSA can be suspended from the alliance by a 2/3 majority vote [not including the offending member]; if after suspension the member has not made any redress, the same member can be expelled by a unanimous vote.

Article V

The RSA Charter is to remain the official charter of the RSA under all circumstances and no portions can be considered void under any circumstances while a member remains a party to the RSA.

a) The charter can be amended by a unanimous vote to permit new provisions that were heretofore unforeseen and unacknowledged at the time of its ratification.
b) The charter or portions of the charter cannot be rendered nullified by any member when a provision explicitly does not follow the particular interests of that member.
c) The charter cannot be replaced by a new charter, except by the unanimous consent of all member states.

The UCR agrees fully to the Charter. We as of this time have no qualms against the charter and it's current Points. Should this change we will be sure to alert you.

THe Empire of Vineyard formally agrees to this charter and will sign it once ratified.

OOC: I'm in a hurry, but we think that the charter is very good!

I think the Charter is approved - if only Arabicia were on more often [if only his school didn't broil his brain every night...]

Have we decided on a suitable location of an RSA HQ?



And a general note - our campaign in Hormozgan is going very well, albeit at heavy costs. We are pressing a campaign to liberate Bandar Abbas and thereafter effect Emirate control over the province. We have noted efforts by the UCR to begin plans for the pacification of Tehran, which will be the ultimate prize for the moment. As such, we need to decide how we're going to effect RSA control over these still remnant regions. If need be, the Emirate will commit more troops, but we cannot guarantee that our efforts will be sufficient to complete the task.

We also note with approval the progress of Kopparbergs forces in the pacification of Socotra. If they need any naval or aerial support, we will be nearby. Our forces are on the verge of a breakthrough in Asherton, as our forces have neared Djibouti - the target for first phase of our attack. We do not require assistance at the moment, although it is still welcome. Our plans suggest that the campaign will last for another two years at the most. Optimistic sources suggest that we can have military control within the year, but owing to the expanses of jungle and mountains of Ethiopia, assimilation will be a long and enduring process.

We will keep our allies updated with information as it comes.

The UCR has no qualms over the area of the HQ. Seeing as it will not be near UCR soil, our forces there will be limited compared to the other closer nations. And once we have found a location the UCR will be gladly sending UCR RSA Represenative Mikhail Grummun, son of one of our Ministers.

We have good news.

With operations in Greece wraping up, and the threat abroad being distracted, we can now re-deploy the Imperial Guards, the Elite Infantry in the Empire. Current numbers are 50,000 men, and we would like to know if any nation requires reinforcements before we send them in as a unit. if reinforcements are needed, a detachment of 10,000 fighting men will be sent to aid the nation(s) that request it, with the remaineder embarking on a campaign to liberate Iraq and Kuwait.

The RSA will be officially situated in Sharm ash Shaykh, since a good majority agrees. Furthermore, we remind all members that we are not committing actual troops to the RSA HQ, just more a case of liaison officers and civilian personnel to work cooperatively in maintaining RSA interests for all members.

Construction will begin once the Emirate has arranged for the territory to be protected and designated a secure zone. Since the town is a renowned beach front, we will utilize the empty desert for much of our project. Plane flights from Cairo, Tel Aviv, Jiddah, and Riyadh are considered direct flights for the airport. Additionally, we will begin a revision of the territory around Sharm ash Shaykh, and we'd be glad to have offers for construction assistance, engineering, or financial support to make this work. In the meantime, the Emirate welcomes the RSA into Alexandria, where numerous government buildings can be reserved for the Alliancec meetings until the construction is complete [ooc: I'm reserving 4 years for the construction of the main parts - so 4 years until we can use the new HQ... if anyone wants to do so, anyone can volunteer to draw up the RSA HQ... but that's an option].

As such, the RSA Charter will be hereafter posted on the first page, for all to review.

In regards to Vineyard's offer of military assistance, we arer glad for the offer, but we feel that Vineyardian troops could be of greater assistance in their campaign in Iraq and Kuwait. Our troops in Hormozgan are having difficulty securing the province, and UCR has begun another offensive in Northwest Sistan. If Vineyard begins an attack at a third front, it would not only hamper Sistani resistance, but it would also likely disintegrate existing resistance and make RSA efforts to neutralize the threat less difficult. On another note, the Emirate is glad to hear that Vineyardian efforts in Greece have ended peacefully.

The UCR will gladly provide 1,000 of it's Engineering Reservists to help build the HQ. If you agree we will call them up and have head down the Suez Canal and to the Site within a week. If you do not wish for us to send our Engineers we would off you $75 Million USD for the Project.

Please tell us if this Favorable.

The UCR will gladly provide 1,000 of it's Engineering Reservists to help build the HQ. If you agree we will call them up and have head down the Suez Canal and to the Site within a week. If you do not wish for us to send our Engineers we would off you $75 Million USD for the Project.

Please tell us if this Favorable.

We'd honestly be glad to have both, but if given the choice, we'll take the manpower. We'll have a detachment awaiting them at Ismailyah, where they can ride the rails to the site.

You shall have both. Consider the money wired and the troops are being called up as we speak and will arrive in 5 days. There equipment will arrive the next day. We hope the other members will also gladly donate Money and Manpower as well.

We will send one thousand engineers and construction workers to Sharm ash Shaykh. We will also wire $100 million USD to the Emirate.

Now when we have decided to establish a HQ for the Alliance, King Carl Gustaf XXI has decided that I'm going to be located in Sharm ash Shaykh and work with the Red Sea Alliance 100 %. There will be someone else as the Secretary of Defense for the Kingdom. I think this is a very good solution.

General Carl Hamilton
Red Sea Alliance Administrator
Kingdom of Kopparbergs

SIC to the RSA (as usual, just a reminder!)

Urgent message to Alif Laam Miim and Vineyard

We're having enemy troops just miles outside our borders in Africa.

The imperialistic nation of Iberian Netherlands has, without reasons, attacked our common neighbors Equatorial Guinea and Gabon. We cannot, of course, accept this, and we urge you to help us liberate these two countries. We are now preparing a large counter strike against Bioko Island, situated just about 100 km from our big navy base NM9 in Uyo, Nigeria. 150 km from Bioko Island, in Port Harcourt, we're having another big navy base, NM7.
With our large military bases in such close proximity we're not expecting any problems with liberating the Bioko Island. The thing we may need help with is the mainland of Equatorial Guinea and Gabon.

General Carl Hamilton
Red Sea Alliance Administrator and Secretary of Defense
Kingdom of Kopparbergs

OOC: From my military declaration:
NM7 – Port Harcourt [164,000 navy + 190,000 marines + 11,500 Special Elite Force]
NM8 – Uyo [130,000 navy + 170,000 marines]

The thread for this invasion is here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=503053).

SIC to the RSA (as usual, just a reminder!)

Urgent message to Alif Laam Miim and Vineyard

We're having enemy troops just miles outside our borders in Africa.

The imperialistic nation of Iberian Netherlands has, without reasons, attacked our common neighbors Equatorial Guinea and Gabon. We cannot, of course, accept this, and we urge you to help us liberate these two countries. We are now preparing a large counter strike against Bioko Island, situated just about 100 km from our big navy base NM9 in Uyo, Nigeria. 150 km from Bioko Island, in Port Harcourt, we're having another big navy base, NM7.
With our large military bases in such close proximity we're not expecting any problems with liberating the Bioko Island. The thing we may need help with is the mainland of Equatorial Guinea and Gabon.

General Carl Hamilton
Red Sea Alliance Administrator and Secretary of Defense
Kingdom of Kopparbergs

OOC: From my military declaration:
NM7 – Port Harcourt [164,000 navy + 190,000 marines + 11,500 Special Elite Force]
NM8 – Uyo [130,000 navy + 170,000 marines]

The thread for this invasion is here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=503053).

[SIC directed to Kopparbergs: We have noted the movements, as it was widely broadcast for some awkward reason, as if the Iberian Netherlands wanted the world to know that they were invading these territories. However, we do not wish to instigate a conflict with them, as a war with them would complicate other matters in the region. As such, our delegation in the PAC [Pan-African Conference] has submitted a proposal that we are hoping everyone will like. If Kopparbergs intends to aim for a conflict, we will supporrt them, as is the fundamental point of our alliance - but please be aware that the Iberian Netherlands is currently allied in EATO, who is pitted against Sharina, although with DP's reduced presence the tensions might shift more towards the GR attack, which itself looks to be diffusing as well. There is more to this situation than is simply in Africa. We arer considering the entire spectrum of the consequences of our actions, and as such we are supporting a military campaign to liberate the territories. Again, we have expressed our opinion on a better alternative, and we hope that your representative will agree that it is suitable.]

The French Empire has declared war on Vineland. Since they are our ally, we must make our obligations to defend against the French declaration of warr on our ally.

The UCR will in spirit support any and all RSA actions, but as of now we can not send troops to assist because of the Conflict in Sistan. As of now it looks like it will last months before we are able to commit troops. We are sorry.

The UCR's action is noted and we will acknowledge your already proven devotion to the RSA in supporting and continuing actions against Sistan. We likewise support your actions, although we don't think that the French declaration was in any leap of faith a righteous declaration. We are still considering our own decision, but we need to maintain solidarity in the RSA.

Nations of the RSA

Although we have yet to issue a formal declaration of war on United netherlands for their invasion of Africa, in support of our ally Kopparsbergs, we find ourselves under attack in Italy by Military Command. We have 350,000 troops mounting a desperate defence in the Italian Alps as we speak. Now some of you may question as to why 352,000 men would have to despertly mount a defence? Because 150,000 of those are Imperial TO's (The Empire's Defenceive-Citizen Militias), 200,000 are mere Military police, and 2,000 of these are poorly-armed border guards with mere pistols! Out nearest Battlegroup is struggling to reach the front in time, and we need any assistance that can be pressed into service ASAP.

Military Command has also declared his intentions to blockade all Vineyardian Ports. The imperial navy will be passing through Gibralter shortly, and we request allied navies to join the Fleet in its eradication of Military Command's Force.

Intel suggests that Italy is about to be attacked by most, if not all, professional armies under Military Command's... err... command. This does not only make our front hard-pressed to defend itself, but it makes all of his other territories vulnerable, and we highly reommend that an ally endevor to attack one of his provences.

Another thing to note, the TOs and Border patrolmen are poorly armed and equipped. We need about 2,000 assult rifles for the Border patrol regiment, along with about 352,000 suits of body armor, 152,000 helmets, and as many grenades as can be provided.

We have little time to divulge more.

On to the front!

-Regent Windsor

The Iberian Netherlands has offered a resolution to the fighting that the Emirate would very much favor. We hope that our allies would also support the move for peace. And there is much more to gain if the Kingdom voluntarily leaves their ambitions than for us to force them from having those ambitions.

SIC Telegram to Regent Windsor, Vineyard

Dear friend,
We thank you for your absolute and quick support! We hope that the situation around the Bioko Island will calm down. We have heard that The Iberian Netherlands are ready to withdraw their troops. We feel that we have the situation in the Gulf of Guinea under control right now, but we have no idea of how it looks like in mainland Equatorial Guinea and Gabon.

We will of course support you with the defense of Italy. We will begin to transport 500 Merkava MK3 tanks and 500 M113A1 tanks. You will also get 5,000 very well trained men from IDF. The first 50 tanks and 1,000 troops will be airlifted to the northern parts of Italy, to an airport of your choice. The rest will be shipped over the Mediterranean from Tunisia to a port of your choice.
Together with the tanks on the first flight, there will be 2,500 Tavor TAR-21 Assault Rifles, 1,000 Model 89 Sniper Rifles (M89SR), 1,000 Negev light machine guns with laser designators and 1,000 SHIPON personal missile launchers. (OOC: see israeli-weapons.com (http://www.israeli-weapons.com/) for details.

We will also send 50 complete Spyder packages (see SIBAT ( http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=11510910&postcount=4) for more info) by ship (from the port in Haifa, Israel).

We don't have much experience from mountain warfare, but we think we can manage pretty well anyway.

Should the need arise, we will provide you with more troops and more equipment!

King Carl Gustaf XXI

SIC Telegram to Kopparsbergs-

We are most elated that you have elected to help us in our struggle in Italy! We WOULD recommend that all supplies be sent to Genoa, however, since the enemy appears intent on blockading all of our ports, the only sea we can gaurentee security in is the Adriatic. As such, we recommend that all Ships containing men and supplies be sent to either Split or Trieste, which is located along our main military Highway. Airlifts should be directed to Milan, with all flights being directed to fly over as much of the Italian peninsula as possible, again due to security reasons.

-Regent Windsor


RSA reply to ALM:

Although we concur that the way to peace is the wisest course of action, we cannot tolerate any UE presence in Africa. SO long as this condition is listed, and the RSA will not give up any material object(s), we are supportive of such a peace agreement.

RSA reply to ALM:

Although we concur that the way to peace is the wisest course of action, we cannot tolerate any UE presence in Africa. SO long as this condition is listed, and the RSA will not give up any material object(s), we are supportive of such a peace agreement.

As far as we understand, the Iberians are willing to vacate Gabon and Equitorial Guinea, seeing it as a error of their judgment. As such, we see no casus bellum against them, unless you wish to also vacate their forces under their associated republic in Madagascar. We feel that all of the right steps are being made the Iberian Netherlands to avoid a calamity, and the RSA should not waste its opportunity to avoid a conflict if we can gain more through a settlement.

The French pose a different situation, which we do not support. If - in disregarding the Iberian resolution - they do attack your forces in Italy, you shall have our support, however limited it may be due to continuing operations in Asherton, and in Sistan. Their casus bellum is as such that you declared war upon the Iberians, which is beyond any recognition of the truth, and as such they need to recant their declaration to avoid any complication.

OOC: Arabica is gone mate.

IC:
In light of recent events in Iran. The UCR has come to the conclusion that the addition of the UARCA would make a fine addition to the Red Sea Alliance. They have been most helpful in Iran, occupying large areas of Territory and they have even assisted both UCR and ALM Troops in combat. We feel that based on these actions that the UARCA be allowed to join the RSA.

Also, pertaining to the Vineyardian ICBM attack on Tehran. We are willing to let that go as long Vineyard pays us 500 Million USD for damages to the soldiers families to help rebuild Tehran. We also would recommend that Vineyard also be watched for the time being.

IC:

The Vineyardian government knows nothing of this obscene claim, never the less we are investigating it.

As for your demand that we pay 500M Dollars, we will not have the currency, as we have recently launched an aricultural program in the congo which has consumed most of what surplus currency we have. Due to your recent accusations, The Empire plans to withdraw all units in the UCR's territory.

Also, all Vineyardian satilite comm officers in RSA nations are being withdrawn for the purpose of avoiding Granate from forcing these men to use their satilites for the purpose of 'watching' the Empire. If anything, the Empire will be watching you.

Also, al Vineyardianl satilite comm officers in RSA nations are being withdrawn for the purpose of avoiding Granate from forcing these men to use their satilites for the purpose of 'watching' the Empire. If anything, the Empire will be watching you.
We're asking Vineyard if we can keep our satellite comm officer, but move him from Israel to Nigeria? We would like to keep the ability to use these satellites in Africa, due to the recent activities here.

General Carl Hamilton
Secretary of Defense
The Kingdom of Kopparbergs

We're asking Vineyard if we can keep our satellite comm officer, but move him from Israel to Nigeria? We would like to keep the ability to use these satellites in Africa, due to the recent activities here.

General Carl Hamilton
Secretary of Defense
The Kingdom of Kopparbergs

-IC-

Your request has been approved. However, we would like to put him under guard if that could be arranged, seeing how he will be the only comm officer within the reach of Granate.

-Regent Windsor

IC:
We are sorry to tell you that any troops found within UCR territory will be withheld for Questioning until we feel we have figured out what the hell happened at Tehran! UCR Soldiers died in an ICBM attack. We have reports from the UARCA that they were infact Vineyardian in origin.

Should information that comes from the question or any other source points that the ICBM attack was the act of a Rogue Vineyard Officer and not of the Goverment, we will immediately release all Vineyard Officers and Troops under detaination. The exception being the Officer in question.

Sincerely
Andrei Johnson
President of the UCR

OOC: Arabica is gone mate.

IC:
In light of recent events in Iran. The UCR has come to the conclusion that the addition of the UARCA would make a fine addition to the Red Sea Alliance. They have been most helpful in Iran, occupying large areas of Territory and they have even assisted both UCR and ALM Troops in combat. We feel that based on these actions that the UARCA be allowed to join the RSA.

Also, pertaining to the Vineyardian ICBM attack on Tehran. We are willing to let that go as long Vineyard pays us 500 Million USD for damages to the soldiers families to help rebuild Tehran. We also would recommend that Vineyard also be watched for the time being.

The Emirrate would support the measures to introduce the UARCA as a member of the RSA, seeing the already present cooperation in the pacification of Sistani territories. We watch with suspicion as allies butt heads, and we look upon this with much disapproval. We wish to remind all members that cooperation is key to resolving this situation. Instead of alienating the other, we should be working to find a resolution to the problem. As such, we would implore the UCR to invite Vineyardian investigators to determine the guilt of their citizens in UCR territory. Furthermore, if the Empire would have any detailed information regarding the involvement of officers exceeding their command, resulting in the deaths of numerous UCR troops and citizens, we would encourage them to share these details, to promote a well-being of trust among us. We are certain that no legitimate authority in the Empire of Vineyard would conceive of an ill-fated strike against their own ally, but until a concrete investigation can reveal the details, we can offer only speculation, and it will not suffice to bring us together.

In terms of a reparations cost, the Emirate is willing to volunteer 100mil of the 500mil, as part of of Charity and Hajj Ministry allotments to help repair the wounds of this conflict.

And as a last statement, we urge all members to avoid instigating conflict with each other. There is no reason to assume that any neighbor wishes absolute harm upon each other. If such is the case, we will consider retaliatory measures against such action, but at the moment, the Emirate has no reason to believe that this is the case in any circumstance. We hope that the wealth of strength and cooperation achieved in the wake of Sistan's aggression will be lost in the peddling arguments of responsibility.

-PM Yusuf Hassan

The CWAA is seeking diplomatic ties with the RSA, being a nation of Islam and agreeing with the RSA's ideals. If diplomatic relationships can commence between us, than we must ask for assistance in the provinces composed of Former Burkina Faso as rebuilding is needed to take place. The government of FBF decided to take their citizens down with them and destroyed many buildings as well as attempteing to raze a section of the city. We are hopeful that a strong relationship may develope between us and someday, possibly the CWAA joining the RSA.
Best Wishes,
General Muammar Abdula al-Aziz, leader of the great CWAA

SIC reply: The CWAA cannot officially make "diplomatic" contacts with the RSA, as it is primarily an organization seeking the maintain a delicate and cherished balance of peace and stability in the Middle East and its neighboring domains. If the CWAA wishes to join the RSA, it must go through a vote of all convening RSA members unanimously, in accordance with the RSA Charter.

As such, while the CWAA cannot maintain diplomatic contacts with the RSA per se, we would strongly encourage your government to pursue peaceful contacts with its substituent members.

In regards to assisting rebuilding the provinces of the former Burkina Faso, the Emirate can personally lend an offering from its Ministry of Charity and Hajj, when we can process the claim, but it would if your government opened channels of diplomatic exchange first.

[ooc: this is the wrong place to look for help and support - try the member factbooks...]

The UCR has after much debate decided to release any and all Vineyardian troops held within our borders. The troops will be allowed to leave, unhindered. For now, no Monetary Supplement will be asked.

Sincerely The UCR.

The UCR has after much debate decided to release any and all Vineyardian troops held within our borders. The troops will be allowed to leave, unhindered. For now, no Monetary Supplement will be asked.

Sincerely The UCR.

The Emirate maintains its offer - as a dear ally and grateful neighbor in recognition of the monumentous effort offered by the UCR to help end the Sistani threat. Besides, our Ministry of Charity and Hajj perhaps needs a good reason to exist. Furthermore, we express our ultimate satisfaction that the UCR has opted to pursue more cooperative measures and hopes likewise that the Empire of Vineyard will reciprocate such action to bring this situation to a fitting and mutual resolution.

In lieu of the recent events involving Arabicia, there are fears that the government there may fall into collapse. If such a situation does materialize, the Emirate feels that there should be some precaution to stabilize our neighbor and our ally. As such, if need be, the Emirate wishes to propose a protectorate status over the territories of the People's Republic of Arabicia, to be mutually protected by the RSA and preserve their sovereignty. We hope that our allies will agree that this presents a pending crisis in maintaining the primary objectives of this organization - that is to maintain peace and security in the Middle East.

SIC Announcement to RSA nations

The Kingdom of Kopparbergs has declared Jordan as the seventh governorate of the Kingdom.

As we already has the area under our control, we will now begin the hard work with getting everything back to normal, and incorporate Jordan into the Kingdom.

King Carl Gustaf XXI
The Kingdom of Kopparbergs

SIC Announcement to RSA nations

The Kingdom of Kopparbergs has declared Jordan as the seventh governorate of the Kingdom.

As we already has the area under our control, we will now begin the hard work with getting everything back to normal, and incorporate Jordan into the Kingdom.

King Carl Gustaf XXI
The Kingdom of Kopparbergs


The Empire concurs, and has conducted secret talks with Kopparsbergs, in which we concluded that Kopparsbergs should have the Nation of Jordan as their own, instead of the Empire annexing it.

In lieu of the recent events involving Arabicia, there are fears that the government there may fall into collapse. If such a situation does materialize, the Emirate feels that there should be some precaution to stabilize our neighbor and our ally. As such, if need be, the Emirate wishes to propose a protectorate status over the territories of the People's Republic of Arabicia, to be mutually protected by the RSA and preserve their sovereignty. We hope that our allies will agree that this presents a pending crisis in maintaining the primary objectives of this organization - that is to maintain peace and security in the Middle East.

This issue particularly important to the Emirate - we wish to hear opinions about it.

The UCR will follow any RSA bill. As of now though, we are to busy with our interests in Iran to be of much help, although you do have our complete support in all things. Consider any intelligence that would be of use yours.

The United Autonomous Republics of Central Asia petition the RSA for membership in the august body. The request that is sent to the organization contains numerous points as to why the UARCA would be a valuable member, including its recent stabilizing efforts in Iran, its cooperation with UCR and ALM forces, and the broadening of the RSA to more accurately reflect the ethic and cultural backgrounds of the Middle East.

The United Autonomous Republics of Central Asia petition the RSA for membership in the august body. The request that is sent to the organization contains numerous points as to why the UARCA would be a valuable member, including its recent stabilizing efforts in Iran, its cooperation with UCR and ALM forces, and the broadening of the RSA to more accurately reflect the ethic and cultural backgrounds of the Middle East.

[ooc: now we're ethical :D]

The Emirate strongly supports this measure, citing the same sources, only from our perspective.

The UCR heartily supports the UARCA entry into the RSA. There addition to the alliance can only stregthen our resolve and increase our sphere of influence.

The Kingdom of Kopparbergs agrees to this expansion of the RSA. We're sure that UARCA has much to contribute to this alliance.

The Empire of Vineyard does NOT support the UCRA's request to enter the RSA as that particualr nation has been prone to offencive and greed-driven tendencies, often at the expence of the RSA. The Empire also does not comprehend why the UCRA has recieved such ample support from other members of the RSA, especially considering their recent efforts to annex Iran.

The Empire calls into question the UCRA's loyalty and past events regarding members of the RSA. The empire finds the following:

-The Conference convened by the UCRA to partition Sistani lands was effectivly dissolved after it was found that the nation of the UCRA and the nation of Sel Appa laid claims to Sistani lands despite their lack of help during the Sistani War. It was established that they were, in effect, taking advantage of Sistan's recent defeat to claim land at the RSA's expence.

-DESPITE the conference collapsing, the UCRA went ahead with the invasion of Iran after recieving international condemnation for theit endevor to grab land that was:
1). Not theirs
2). Land claimed by the RSA
3). Not only culturally, but religiously and ethnically different that those nations that strove to welcome the peoples of iran into their ranks.

-The UCRA advanced into Iran despite the threats of war by RSA nations. The UCRA had disrespected the opinions, the sovrignty, and the lives lsot by the RSA nations in their efforts against Sistan. The UCRA essentially 'thumbed their noses' to the Nations of the RSA and all the brave soldiers of the RSA that lost their lives stopping the Sistani Threat.

-The Efforts by the UCRA to 'help' other RSA nations in Iran was only because they had a vested interest in seeing the Sistani threat quelled, not in auctually providing assistance to the nations of the RSA. By including themselves in the Theran campaign, they assured themselves a healthy slice of the city.


If the UCRA want's the Empire's vote, they will have to do all of the following:

-Formally apologize to the nations of the RSA for offences caused
-Withdraw all troops, peoples, and interests from Iran
-Provide a fund to help repair war damages in the UCRA sector of Iran, the scetor which they had invaded.

The Empire will not sway from its conviction and opinion of the UCRA peoples due to the facts presented here. The UCRA's past reflects the antion that it truly is: One that is NOT interested in helping the RSA, and a nation that serves only itself.

The Empire of vineyard, controlled as it is by megalomaniacal rulers who lust for power, is most certainly not the nation to attempt to lecture the UARCA on behavior of RSA members. The UARRCA has indeed followed the tenetas of the RSA in a far more substantial manner than that of Vineyard, who appear to view the RSA as merely alies to be called upon in times of war.

The UARCA and the RSA, after waiting months for any movement of Vineyardian troops to stabilize vast swaths of land that was to be under Vineyardian control, was rewarded with the sight of Vineyardian troops moving towards positions near North America. THe two parties were rewarded with rhetoric focuysed not at the Sistani rebels but at Sharina. The Empire of Vineyard, in its inability to work inside the Middle East (the very goal of the RSA), has completely neglected the basis of the organization it belongs to.

Not the UARCA. After waiting (and waiting. And waiting. And..... waiting) and suffering numerous border incursions while watching the lands remain under the sway of Sistani fanatics, remain under control of fascists, and remain under the direct power of maniacs still loayal to a defunct government, the UARCA and the RSA members in the area grew completely sigusted. Troop movements happened- Vineyard attacked and subjugated the free peoples of Greece. There was no liberation of Iranians. There was no accepting of responsibilty. There was merely shirking of that for territorial gains in other parts of the world.

And now the imperialists that are the Vineyardians accuse the UARCA of acting in their interests? The UARCA's troops waited far longer than they needed to; the UARCA's troops only moved when permission was given by both the Emirate of ALM and the UCR; the UARCA's troops actually helped the people in the areas it moved into instead of slaughtering them (and the soldiers of RSA nations) by the thousands with missile attacks like Vineyardians. Any ability for the Vioneyardians to attempt to cry foul was completely negated by their joy of sending the military off into other areas of the world that were not the simmering cauldron of discontent that was Iran.

The UARCA refused to let that boil over and harm the region. The UARCA worked with RSA trops in the area, an action not at all undertaken by Vineyardians. The UARCA gave intel and the lives of soldiers to alleviate the pressure on RSA mambers to aid in breaking out of bogged-down sectors. The UARCA has its complete and utter right to aid the people of Iran, not kill them from a distance by apathetic ignorance and ICBM attacks like the Vineyardians. Even now, as UARCA troops have stopped at the border with Iraq, aid and supplies are flowing west in their wake and south in the wake of armed units meeting up with ALM forces. The UARCA will continue to work with RSA nations, as it has been doing for the past weeks, and will form its own alliance with every other nation in the RSA- those nations that actually follow the interests and goals of the RSA and not their own selfish, imperialist motives.

As of now, consider the UARCA application withdrawn- we will never work hand in hand with the Empire of Vineyard, which wallows in its duplicity and baseness. The UARCA offers a hand in friendship to the other member of the RSA and eagerly seeks closer ties, be it through an actual alliance or merely through individual agreements. But the RSA itself has dead weight hanging on and the alliance will be choked until that weight- that greedy, grasping weight of the Vineyardian Empire- is drawn off. The UARCA and the rest of the world realize this and hope that the other nations in the RSA do as well.

The Empire of Vineyard does NOT support the UCRA's request to enter the RSA as that particualr nation has been prone to offencive and greed-driven tendencies, often at the expence of the RSA. The Empire also does not comprehend why the UCRA has recieved such ample support from other members of the RSA, especially considering their recent efforts to annex Iran.

The Empire calls into question the UCRA's loyalty and past events regarding members of the RSA. The empire finds the following:

-The Conference convened by the UCRA to partition Sistani lands was effectivly dissolved after it was found that the nation of the UCRA and the nation of Sel Appa laid claims to Sistani lands despite their lack of help during the Sistani War. It was established that they were, in effect, taking advantage of Sistan's recent defeat to claim land at the RSA's expence.

-DESPITE the conference collapsing, the UCRA went ahead with the invasion of Iran after recieving international condemnation for theit endevor to grab land that was:
1). Not theirs
2). Land claimed by the RSA
3). Not only culturally, but religiously and ethnically different that those nations that strove to welcome the peoples of iran into their ranks.

-The UCRA advanced into Iran despite the threats of war by RSA nations. The UCRA had disrespected the opinions, the sovrignty, and the lives lsot by the RSA nations in their efforts against Sistan. The UCRA essentially 'thumbed their noses' to the Nations of the RSA and all the brave soldiers of the RSA that lost their lives stopping the Sistani Threat.

-The Efforts by the UCRA to 'help' other RSA nations in Iran was only because they had a vested interest in seeing the Sistani threat quelled, not in auctually providing assistance to the nations of the RSA. By including themselves in the Theran campaign, they assured themselves a healthy slice of the city.


If the UCRA want's the Empire's vote, they will have to do all of the following:

-Formally apologize to the nations of the RSA for offences caused
-Withdraw all troops, peoples, and interests from Iran
-Provide a fund to help repair war damages in the UCRA sector of Iran, the scetor which they had invaded.

The Empire will not sway from its conviction and opinion of the UCRA peoples due to the facts presented here. The UCRA's past reflects the antion that it truly is: One that is NOT interested in helping the RSA, and a nation that serves only itself.

The Emirate would like to point out that while reflecting on the past, the UARCA has vastly improved its approach. While we do not doubt that there is some interest on their behalf to acquire territories in the former mandates of Sistan, we do not doubt their willingness to cooperate with the RSA. In the wake of their earlier attempts to work almost unilaterally, they have since realized that peace in the Middle East is not possible without cooperation between their government and the RSA. As such, we see every incentive for them to join - as their bloc in the east presents to us a vital connection to the eastern fringes of the Middle East, adding to the wealth of security available to us.

As far as the Emirate is aware, the UARCA has since made active efforts to cooperate with the RSA in more areas than simply Sistan - although this one aspect does present the major venue of their support. We have the government in Tashkent to be more conciliatory to the needs in the establishment of a peaceful Middle East - measures that as yet, the Kingdom of Kopparbergs, the United Caucasian Republics, and the Emirate of Alif Laam Miim support. Whereas the Empire of Vineyard has not yet made any tangible effort to pacify Sistani remnant since the collapse of their government - while the armed forces of Kopparbergs actively pursued and campaigned on its behalf in what would become the future territories of Jordan and Syria and the Emirate and UCR have made strides to restore order to Sistani Persia - the UARCA has since become more receptive and tolerable. In fact, their willingness to cooperate with the RSA is one of the primary reasons why the campaign is coming to its suited close. In its actions, the UARCA has demonstrated that its government has vested interests to maintaining a stable order in the Middle East, while the Empire of Vineyard has found herself in other parts of the world, nearly every other place save the Middle East.

We do not mention these comments as a nature to rebuff your position, but more to prod positively in the hopes that the Empire will realize that its neighbor desire a more active role in maintaining peace in the Middle East.


-=-=-=-

We lament at the UARCA's decision nonetheless to withdraw their application - we hope that they will reconsider.

Seeing the same redundant counter argument, we feel the need to reiterate our current position. Our forces were drawn away initially to help an ally if war was to be declared on that nation. Troops are still out there, remaining vigiliant in the old steppes of Russia incase Sharina does carry out his war plans.

Then, United Netherlands invaded a country close to our own, and as such the 4th Battlegroup responded, and is now cleaning up operations in the Republic of the Congo. Unfortunately that conflict spilled over into Europe, and the staring match that ensued preoccupied the 3ed battlegroup.

Since then, the 1st has been recalled to the heartlands, the 3ed is being deploied in Northern Iraq, the 2ed is snow sitting in the cold steppes of Russia, the 4th is cleaning up the Republic of the Congo, and the Imperial Guard is wraping up the pacification of Macedonia.

In short: The reason for our recent military movements was not only to protect our other allies, but to retain stability on the African Continent as well.

The UCRA's recent hollow justifications are reflected so due to the lack of basis on factual information. The subsequent withdrawl os their application should not only reflect everything we know to hold true regarding that nation, but should be celebrated as something of a victory.

Seeing the same redundant counter argument, we feel the need to reiterate our current position. Our forces were drawn away initially to help an ally if war was to be declared on that nation. Troops are still out there, remaining vigiliant in the old steppes of Russia incase Sharina does carry out his war plans.

Then, United Netherlands invaded a country close to our own, and as such the 4th Battlegroup responded, and is now cleaning up operations in the Republic of the Congo. Unfortunately that conflict spilled over into Europe, and the staring match that ensued preoccupied the 3ed battlegroup.

Since then, the 1st has been recalled to the heartlands, the 3ed is being deploied in Northern Iraq, the 2ed is snow sitting in the cold steppes of Russia, the 4th is cleaning up the Republic of the Congo, and the Imperial Guard is wraping up the pacification of Macedonia.

In short: The reason for our recent military movements was not only to protect our other allies, but to retain stability on the African Continent as well.

The UCRA's recent hollow justifications are reflected so due to the lack of basis on factual information. The subsequent withdrawl of their application should not only reflect everything we know to hold true regarding that nation, but should be celebrated as something of a victory.

We are glad to hear progress being reported in Iraq - we hope that this conflict will soon be behind us all.

As of this moment, the Emirate has unilaterally decided to move into Arabician territories, seeing as no concerted RSA action has been committed to maintain peace and order in the Middle East. For this operation, our forces in the 6th Army Group [Khartoum] and in the 7th Army Group [Manama] - in addition to those troops [numberring at 50,000] currently stationed in Benghazi without any particular military assignment - will seek to secure large population centers and prevent the already rampant rioting in the territories of the former Arabician Republic. We hope that the RSA will support our ventures.

Speaking of RSA, we also would like to announce the completion of the RSA HQ in Sharm ash Shaykh. We invite all RSA delegates and groups to come to cooperate in future ventures, build trust among dear allies, and attain the objectives of the RSA in solidarity.

The Emirate notes that the pacification of Arabicia after months of rioting in its streets has gone by rather peaceably, with the notable exception in Yemeni Arabicia, which has seen a resurgence in the Arms of Allah faction [AOA]. It is our official effort to stamp out the dangerously radical sect before it becomes any more mainstream, and we would like to know if any of the RSA members could offer aid in stamping it out - not necessarily through force of armies but through intelligence and counter-terrorist operations. We also would like to see the solidarity of the RSA in declaring that the AOA faction is both a extremist organization and one that preaches inhuman ideologies and cannot be tolerated at all.

The delegation from Israel has arrived in Sharm ash Shaykh. The Kingdom of Kopparbergs will have 11 delegates in the RSA HQ: the RSA Administrator General Carl Hamilton accompanied by seven military advisors and three office workers. General Carl Hamilton will work fulltime with the RSA from now, and the King will appoint a new Secretary of Defense.

The Emirate has been working with Sharina recently to agree on a mutual treaty of friendship. Among the details shared in the conference was a provision that both Sharina and the Emirate would work to maintain a peaceful cooperation between the RSA and FOAM - so to speak that the Alliances would not clearly engage the other in a broad and unnecessarily extended war. While it would not prevent the general military exchanges between individual members of each alliance, it would nonetheless ensure that the general forces of FOAM and the RSA would not be committed to mutual attack against each other in a global show-down.

We have not decided on a date to discuss this proposal, but the Emirate would like to know if such an idea is currently feasible within the RSA organizaiton.

We are sorry we haven't replyed sooner, problems on our side have slowed us down considerably. Our delegate, who has been agreed upon by all of the Canidates for President is Anika Townshend, our current Minister of Trade. She will not be seeking a cabinet position with the new President.

Sincerely
Albert Stropka

The Emirate has been working with Sharina recently to agree on a mutual treaty of friendship. Among the details shared in the conference was a provision that both Sharina and the Emirate would work to maintain a peaceful cooperation between the RSA and FOAM - so to speak that the Alliances would not clearly engage the other in a broad and unnecessarily extended war. While it would not prevent the general military exchanges between individual members of each alliance, it would nonetheless ensure that the general forces of FOAM and the RSA would not be committed to mutual attack against each other in a global show-down.

We have not decided on a date to discuss this proposal, but the Emirate would like to know if such an idea is currently feasible within the RSA organizaiton.

Considering the amount of controversy revolving the dispute in the Americas, we would encourage a general policy of non-involvement, unless of course involvement is diplomatically inclined due to other agreements. Otherwise, we should show the nature of the RSA to remain non-hostile to other interests, as long as they pose no threats to RSA interests.

We are sorry we haven't replyed sooner, problems on our side have slowed us down considerably. Our delegate, who has been agreed upon by all of the Canidates for President is Anika Townshend, our current Minister of Trade. She will not be seeking a cabinet position with the new President.

Sincerely
Albert Stropka

We acknowledge the arrival of both the Kopparbergs and UCR missions in Sharm ash Shaykh. The Emirate has likewise established its own mission, headed by General Mukhtar Abd-Al Qarim. We look forward to cooperation with our partners in peace and stability, in triumph and in struggle.

The Emirate - having seen the problem in the Americas from the perspective of Sharina and of the RUN - is convinced that whatever conflict materializes is going to be a painful extraction of tensions left unresolved from many years. It is therefore necessary and prudent to decide how the RSA will best react to the challenges brought by this conflict, which neither concerns the RSA nor poses any security threat to the Greater Middle East. However, we still must make pre-emptive measures to ensure that the RSA will not become involved in such a conflict of non-interests, such to jeopardize the amount of work and effort having been expended in stabilizing the region. We know that the UCR has had difficulty dealing with the union of their Republics and with the former Sistani threat. Kopparbergs has had other problems with their western frontiers. Vineyard just recently finished their campaigns in Iraq and Kuwait, and the Emirate has since fought to bring back order to Arabicia - our former ally. All of this work must be protected and it is thus the role of the RSA to protect these interests.

So without much other comment, what do we propose to do?

The RUN keeps expanding, without much limitation, and does so constantly. The RUN is currently in the process of annexing Chile, Paraguay, and Uruguay, with the posibility of Sweden being attacked in the near future.

So far, only the Empire has stood up to them wherever they may spread, countering their influence, denouncing their means. Where ever their troop's boots hit the soil, that nation suddenly wishes to become a 'member' of the RUN. The RUN is intimidating nations to subject themselves to their greater coalition of the coerced, and then sending the very soldiers they were just fighting off and into another nation, conquering that as well.

It is time for this to end. The Empire is going to war with the RUN, along with its newfound ally Sharina and its long-time ally GR. P&H has also offered to assist us, making this conflict 4 nations against one.

However, we do not ask for the RUN's support in this war, as we do not wish for this conflict to spread unnecessairly. However, we would be most greatful to any assistance the RUN can provide us.

There is one pressing matter that we do see prudent. And that is the oil supply of the RUN. With Venesuela under constant threat, the RUN's oil supply will be swuftly cut off within the opening days of the war. However, it is not that simple. The RUN can still acquire pertol through other sources, and the majority of these 'other sources' are held by the uncommitted members of the RSA. As such, we ask for the immediate suspension of all logistical trade with the RUN, effectivly barring the following products:

-Cereals
-Dairy
-Meats
-Vegtables
-Fruits
-Machinery
-Vehicules
-Services (Engineering, Construction, Health Care spcifically)
-Energy (Namely oil)
-Raw Materials (Except for Gems, gold. Other raw materials of no use in warfare or logistics.)

In return, the Imperial Bank is willing to buy the goods and services intended for the RUN at the same price as the RUN. Despite the fact that our domestic needs are already met (Except for copper.. we need copper...), we will employ these services, goods, and materials in public work programs, the food stuffs will be stored away for later use, and the oil also stored away (If not immediately used by the Army).

On another note, we would like (But are not demanding, requiring) to utilize some of your industrial capibilities to build weaponry in a zone safe from the rigors of warfare, as our Industries in Europe will surely be the subject of many attempts to cripple, if not destroy it. Such compliance will be duly compensated, and raw materials of the Empire will be provided for such war preperation efforts.

The UCR sees the War as between Sharina and Vineyard VS RUN and her allies. Noting that Vineyard wasn't attacked in this war, and entered at her own discretion. We are not willing to choose any side in this conflict. We will stay neutral and keep our trade as it is.

That is the UCR's view.

We ought to wait to here input from Kopparbergs, so in the meantime, the Emirate shall express its opinions on the conflict.


We have seen this conflict from the perspective of both states, and by Allah's grace, we respect them both. However, in respecting both, we must likewise acknowledge that both of their interests run absolutely opposed to each other. We share a belief that each region's share of influence be protected from outside influences - as Sharina has demonstrated on numerous occasions. However, we also share the belief that the world ought come to together and tackle problems on the global front - as the RUN has demonstrated on numerous occasions. At times, we do not agree with the methodology with either party, but the ideology behind the employment is admirable.

Therefore, we are at a conflict. To aid one is to hinder the other, whereas to hinder one is to aid the other. We value the friendship of both states, and as such, the Emirate will not pursue an active policy that seeks to sustain and hurt them at the same moment. It is therefore in the opinion of the Emirate to pursue a non-engaging policy of restrained economic relations during a state of conflict. In such a manner, we show our distaste for the conflict that they pursue, and indeed we neither hurt nor help either party directly. It also spares us the needless wreck awaiting us, if we were to involve ourselves in yet another conflict of such proportions.

That said, we will continue our normal trades with both Sharina and the RUN - which does not include the majority of those items listed on Vineyard's proposal. And likewise, once the conflict ends, we will gladly open ourselves to resuming extraneous trades with both Sharina and RUN - should they request such trades. But until the conflict is at rest, the Emirate shall not pursue any extraneous trades with either party - such a policy which we strongly encourage those members not involved in the conflict pursue.

We now expectantly await Kopparbergs's opinion.

Our main goal in this crisis is to keep the disturbances out of Africa (and the Middle East). While we could help Sharina by cutting of the oil support for the RUN, we think that such an action could increase the risk of an attack against the Iberian Peninsula – and that's our main concern about this upcoming war. We're in very close proximity to Spain and Portugal, and we definitely don't want a war around the Strait of Gibraltar.

To make things even harder, the King of Kopparbergs Africa, Mohammed VI, wants to fully support Spain and Portugal with the defense of the peninsula, and the King of Kopparbergs Middle East, Abdullah II bin al-Hussein, is fully convinced that the only right thing to do is to stay out of this conflict completely and close the borders to the RUN.

Personally I don't think we should suspend all trade with the RUN, but to get an official statement from the Kingdom I must tell you to wait until our two kings has made a decision.

General Carl Hamilton
Red Sea Alliance Administrator
Kingdom of Kopparbergs

[OOC: The Kingdom of Kopparbergs now has two kings, one for Africa and one for the Middle East. You can say that I made a copy of United Earthling's idea of individual nations, but I choose to split the Kingdom in two, instead of eight individual nations.]

[ooc: whoa - so the Arabs finally won over Jerusalem?]

The Emirate is willing to consider any option that first and foremost does not compromise our agreements set with both Sharina and RUN, secondly brings about the least amount of harm, and finally finds a quick resolution to the conflict. As has been evidenced by Kopparbergs's concerns, there are numerous methods that could bring the reaches of the impending conflict to our shores, and it is above all the greatest factor we wish to avoid.

Showing any form of deliberate favoritism is not likely to go well with our government. The Emirate values the relations we share with Sharina and the RUN.

But is it perhaps best to discern the policies that each member shall partake individually? I think that this is the most pressing question now, having discussed our own policies concerning the future of the RSA in this conflict over the Americas.

The Empire would like to point out that it is currently allied with Sharina, and does not request an embargo against them...

However, we would like to mention that while we do realize that many RSA nations are put into a precarious position due to our demands, our Empire must protect its interests. It is prudent to remember that normalized trade relations with the RUN is damaging to the Empire and its War effort. With each tanker of fuel, of food, or of material that is sent to the RUN, the more soldiers and war material they can feild, more soldiers of the Empire needlessly die. Now, gentlemen, do your nations want to be responsible, albeit indirectly, for killing Imperial Soldiers? Do you want a bullet, made from metals exported from Iranian Mines, to be the bullet that sends a soldier home--in a body-bag? Do you want a tank to destroy a platoon of infantry as it burns Nigerian Oil? Why, you may as well send our soldiers one-way tickets to the morgue!

By decree of Regent Windsor, all ships carrying cargo to the RUN will be subject to searches by the allied fleet, and should comply to allied (Sharinian, Vineyardian, and GR ships... possibly P & H ships...) vessels, should they request to board.

However, since the nation of ALM has complied with our demands (ooc: I think...), all ships chartered out of ALM will not be the subject of searches.

At any rate, the Empire agrees to acknawladge normilized relations with the RUN and shall respect them, however, aiding the enemy of the Empire is strongly discouraged.

The Empire would like to point out that it is currently allied with Sharina, and does not request an embargo against them...

However, we would like to mention that while we do realize that many RSA nations are put into a precarious position due to our demands, our Empire must protect its interests. It is prudent to remember that normalized trade relations with the RUN is damaging to the Empire and its War effort. With each tanker of fuel, of food, or of material that is sent to the RUN, the more soldiers and war material they can feild, more soldiers of the Empire needlessly die. Now, gentlemen, do your nations want to be responsible, albeit indirectly, for killing Imperial Soldiers? Do you want a bullet, made from metals exported from Iranian Mines, to be the bullet that sends a soldier home--in a body-bag? Do you want a tank to destroy a platoon of infantry as it burns Nigerian Oil? Why, you may as well send our soldiers one-way tickets to the morgue!

By decree of Regent Windsor, all ships carrying cargo to the RUN will be subject to searches by the allied fleet, and should comply to allied (Sharinian, Vineyardian, and GR ships... possibly P & H ships...) vessels, should they request to board.

However, since the nation of ALM has complied with our demands (ooc: I think...), all ships chartered out of ALM will not be the subject of searches.

At any rate, the Empire agrees to acknawladge normilized relations with the RUN and shall respect them, however, aiding the enemy of the Empire is strongly discouraged.

[ooc: my point about this - how do we determine what sort of trade is in existence? As far as I have noted, I have not been requested to sell any of my oil to any particular state, something I find hard to swallow, since I currently produce about 25% of the world's petroleum production. But of course, there are fewer countries that require oil, and some that produce their own supply of oil. Of course, oil is not the whole story about this - considering that no one has asked me about any sort of trades in the first place [except Warta Endor, who is conveniently AWAL], so I'm just personally wondering what sort of trades I'm currently making with people? Because I certainly need to buy food from people, but no one's selling at the moment. But anyway, my comments about the trade was not a state of embargo - it is merely a declaration stating that any extraneous purchases of trade will not be followed through until the end of the conflict, if only because we don't want to hurt either side by supplying the other with extra supplies that could be used. In this case, if either Sharina or RUN asks for extra material, we would wait until after the war to send the materials, only because we don't want to hurt one by helping the other. Of course, we don't exactly have an outstanding trade relation with either state, since there has been no IC declaration of such. Therefore, if it is requested of our industries, we will simply default all new trades until after the war is settled.

In this way, we neither help nor hurt the progress of war - or if you prefer to say it, we equally help and hurt the progress of the war by remaining outside of it. I'm hoping that this clarifies my earlier statement.

[ooc: whoa - so the Arabs finally won over Jerusalem?]

But is it perhaps best to discern the policies that each member shall partake individually? I think that this is the most pressing question now, having discussed our own policies concerning the future of the RSA in this conflict over the Americas.
[OOC: Kind of... All of the member states' Governors voted for the new king (in my factbook thread), and this was the result that all except Tunisia voted for.]

I realize that it will be hard to get a policy for the RSA in this conflict, with Vineyard on one side in the conflict, and others convinced to be totally neutral. I don't think we can get an official stance for RSA in this conflict.

General Carl Hamilton
Red Sea Alliance Administrator
Kingdom of Kopparbergs

[ooc: I have not been requested to sell any of my oil to any particular state, something I find hard to swallow, since I currently produce about 25% of the world's petroleum production. But of course, there are fewer countries that require oil, and some that produce their own supply of oil. OOC: I've thought a lot of this thing with the oil. I'm thinking of making a new thread, a kind of oil trading center, with stats for all of the Earth-V nations supplies and demands for oil (based on the CIA world fact book to start with).
But it's a lot of work, and I don't know if it's a good thing to have?

OOC: I've thought a lot of this thing with the oil. I'm thinking of making a new thread, a kind of oil trading center, with stats for all of the Earth-V nations supplies and demands for oil (based on the CIA world fact book to start with).
But it's a lot of work, and I don't know if it's a good thing to have?

[ooc: I'd say it's a necessary thing, since trade drives the RL world. Besides that, even if countries weren't as excessive in their oil use [the USA currently consumes over 25% while producing about than 10% of the world's daily oil production - if my country consumed as much oil as the RL USA did, I still would need to import oil to cover the balance :p], oil is still used for diesel fuel, which is extensively used military equipment. In addition, there are numerous other uses for petroleum [plastics, pharmaceuticals, industrial chemical production, energy fuel, gasoline, lubrication, just to name a few...], which will mean that oil trade is still a very big must. I'm personally thinking about making thread that monitors the trade between states, because for me, food and industrial equipment tops my list of import concerns. Managing an economy is just as important to maintaining realism. But thanks for highlighting this important point, Kopparbergs.]

[ooc: I'd say it's a necessary thing, since trade drives the RL world. Besides that, even if countries weren't as excessive in their oil use [the USA currently consumes over 25% while producing about than 10% of the world's daily oil production - if my country consumed as much oil as the RL USA did, I still would need to import oil to cover the balance :p], oil is still used for diesel fuel, which is extensively used military equipment. In addition, there are numerous other uses for petroleum [plastics, pharmaceuticals, industrial chemical production, energy fuel, gasoline, lubrication, just to name a few...], which will mean that oil trade is still a very big must. I'm personally thinking about making thread that monitors the trade between states, because for me, food and industrial equipment tops my list of import concerns. Managing an economy is just as important to maintaining realism. But thanks for highlighting this important point, Kopparbergs.]

ooc: (In really small print, since it seems to be the trend around here.)
I agree. But I think we need to take a step further. Why not make such a trading center for everything? I mean... literally... everything!

For instance, the Empire has a copper shortage, that I am well aware of. this means that the empire's electrical capabilities are streached thin, with the empire only being able to replace/ repair oh so many yards/miles of wire per year (Copper is mainly used in its wire form to conduct electricity. Silver is a better conductor for electricity, but it is not cost effective). Now the empire used to own about 20% of the world's copper mining, in Zimbabwe/Zambia. The only other major area besides that is in the United States. That means that a lot of nations are alcking in copper, the Empire draining the last of its copper reserves as time progresses (The Empire habitually stockpiles anything it can get its hands on).

So this is what I propose. Have a chart of what nations import and export, and then array them underneath National Posession
Example(ROUGH example!):

Vineyard:

Imports Needed:
Albania: oil, iron, machinery
Croatia: oil, wood, engineering (Service scetor), coffee

Then, we can list exports

Exports:
Albania: Agricultural products, chemicals
Croatia: Machinery, iron


Then, looking at the list of needs and existing exports, you hit opon a brilliant idea! 'Hey man! Croatia can provide the Machinery and the iron for Albania!'

Or it can occur between nations.

'A trade agreement is reached between the RUN and Kopparsbergs. Pharmicuticals are to be exported from the RUN in exchange for oil and wood exported from Kopparsbergs for the duration of 10 years.'

Then, the list of items needed are striken, and the trade agreement publicised underneath it all. The date is set for expiration, and when that day scomes, the treaty is deleated, and the listed products are put back up on the 'imports needed' list.

This can go far. Lets bring it to the recruiting thread.

In reaction to concerns in Kenya, the Emirate is calling to the Abyssinian Protectorate to mobilize its forces that border with Kenya and prepare for intervention there.

[ooc: an effort to resume discussion here]

The Emirate wishes to update our allies on the progress of our search to the elimination of jihadist elements reputedly responsible for the attacks in our capital and in Gaza. We have established a national network, with numerous witnesses, suspects, and wanted persons under interrogation. We are assuring that the safety of our innocents is secured and with our intelligence, an attack is currently being planned for one of the members of the RSA. We are trying to locate the source of these details, but it may seem that the elements are already underway to cause these attacks. Therefore, as a devoted ally, we urge your respective governments to commence preparations for the attack and preventative measures to thwart the attempt. Most recent intelligence suggests that the attack is likely to occur in European territory.


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Also, the Emirate is not interested in expanding the RSA's role, but given the delicate situation, we feel that the RSA needs to be more inclusive to countries neighboring the Middle East, to ensure a greater sphere of prosperity and security to our neighbors as well.

Within the Emirate, we have begun to permit limited internal and foreign autonomy to our respective states, and as such, our delegation will also carry persons from the Republican Protectorate of Chad and the Abyssinian Protectorate, so as to offer a forum for their voices in the RSA and the Emirate.

The situation in Kenya has not yet stabilized, but PM Hallesie assures us that the 6th Abyssinian Division is ready to intervene if things fall for the worse. We assure our allies that Kenya will not fall into chaos, if we can help it.

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Additionally, through our numerous contacts, we have managed to secure neutrality of the Middle East from both Sharina and the RUN - thus absolving any of our non-active constituents from being maliciously involved in the conflict. We will nonetheless continue to support the defense of Vineyardian territory in the Middle East, as it is currently within the domain of the RSA to ensure its protection. If any state should decide otherwise, the Emirate is ready to come to the defense of Iraq and Kuwait.

This is all that we have to share at the moment. We will provide additional details on the extremist faction's intentions once our intelligence has the details to provide. And may Allah protect all of us.

General Mukhtar Abd-Al Qarim
Chief Delegate to the RSA - ALM

The UCR has though about allowing the Iranian Republics a voice in the RSA, but has decided against it. This would create a small, yet visible, rift between us. We hope you understand.

We have also begun our own investigations into these jihadists. Most of our work is being done outside of the UCR, and our agents are using clandestine methods to get the information. We currently have no further input into the situation and our monitoring it should this change.

Should RUN or her allies come to the Middle East, the UCR will stand beside the RSA in the defense of the region. We have no qualms with RUN or her allies, but we don't take kindly to them invading our homeland.

Official message to the Red Sea Alliance

The Kingdom of Kopparbergs is strongly condemning the attack on Spain made by the Empire of Vineyard. We demand that the Vineyardians immediately cancel the attacks, and bring their planes back to ground in Italy.

We will not cooperate with Vineyard any more, as they are guilty for bringing the war to the Mediterranean and Africa. The pressure on us is enormous right now, and we must demand that if Vineyard fails to cancel the war right now, we see no other solution than voting for their expelling from the Red Sea Alliance.

General Carl Hamilton
Red Sea Alliance Administrator
Kingdom of Kopparbergs

The Empire is alarmed by this move by the Kingdom of Kopparsbergs. The conflict between the RUN and the Empire is completely localized around the Balearic Isles, a remote territory of the RUN. The conflict around those isles do not threaten the stability of the Mediterranean or the Middle East least the RUN seek to spread it, and the Empire will give you assurances that the Imperial Balistic Missle Program will prevent the RUN from engaging in offensive action against any part of the Mediterranean or the Middle East. The Empire would once again like to express its wishes to keep the RSA out of the war, and to ensure stability in the Red Sea district. The Empire would again like to reiterate that no citizens of any RSA nation shall be harmed, and no property of the RSA shall be damaged in the ongoing war. However, the Empire will not tolerate any hindrance by anyone, no matter their affiliation. We therefore deny the Kingdom's demands for us to stop offensive action, and we will be keeping an eye on all further Kingdom movements and actions.

On this note, the Empire would like to point out a recent 'transaction' that has occurred between the Kingdom and the Republic, a transaction that threatens the neutrality of the RSA in this conflict. The Republic of the United Nations, which we shall call the "RUN", had abandoned a territory we had announced our intentions to liberate. The nation, despite being a member of the "RUN", had somehow been removed from the equal coalition of the Republic. Immediately after RUN troops had withdrawn from the nation, our friends the Kingdom of Kopparsberg, immediately declared it a 'protectorate', immediately moving to occupy this territory.

The Empire received from credible sources that this was a part of a transaction, a deal of sorts. However, until now we did not know what the Kingdom's end of the deal was. Now we know. In addition to providing the RUN with ample oil supplies, The Kingdom, having been given Equatorial Guinea as if the people and land were mere property, now pays its debt back to the RUN by throwing doubt into our status as a member of the RUN and asking for our removal.

We are shamed by this recent action, as the Kingdom pays its debts by promising to use this Alliance to its debtor's advantage. The Empire, noting this in disgust, is considering breaking the loan of Jordan to the Kingdom. If the Kingdom does not cease this abomination of a deal, the Empire will sever its Loan of the Imperial Territory of Jordan to Kopparsbergs.

We also ask the fellow nations of the RSA to investigate the Kingdom's recent actions, and to keep the facts brought to your intention in mind while weighing any other demands and sly words from our friends in the Kingdom.

Unfortunately, Regent Windsor is currently away on business, and could not respond directly to these back-handed moves by the Kopparsbergs Delegate. I humbly ask for cooperation in the diffusing of this crisis.

May peace reign in the RSA!

-Vladimir Seks, Foreign Relations Minister

We're not going into a verbal fight with the Vinyardians, we just want to clarify some things they just brought up on the table.

First, Jordan is a part of Kopparbergs Middle East, and so has it been since the Red Sea War against Sistan. Our IDF forces liberated Jordan completely on their own, not a single Vineyardian soldier has been in Jordan. We don't know why they're saying that we've borrowed Jordan from them. We even helped the Vinyardians to liberate Syria, but since we left the command to Vineyard, there seem to be an unordered structure, and even as of today order hasn't returned to Syria. God knows what the situation in Jordan should have been like today if we shouldn't have liberated them from the evil Sistan. Maybe just like Syria, but probably worse since the IDF forces managed to put out the majority of Sistani troops in Syria.

And we just want to point out that WE, the Kingdom of Kopparbergs, were the first ones to condemn the invasion of Equatorial Guinea made by RUN, back in the days. We even took military action and forced them out of Bioko Island. But by a later date, they tried again, and succeeded (our focus must have been somewhere else). But we also tried again, and we also succeeded. Equatorial Guinea is now within our control, and the RUN is no more represented on the African mainland.

But it's the Vineyardian Empire who brings the war closer to Africa and the Middle East than it has ever been since the days of Sistan. And that's not a good thing.

General Carl Hamilton
Red Sea Alliance Administrator
Kingdom of Kopparbergs

Should war come to Africa or the Middle East, the UCR will support the Kingdom of Kopparbergs. We may not be able to support them with troops or major amounts of Supplies, but we will support them.

The UCR is also announcing that should Operation: Just Reward be completed successfully that the United Caucasus Republics will be renamed the United Black and Caspian Sea Republics or UBCSR. (*OOC: Its just an idea. Please give me Ideas for a new name).

The Emirate is disturbed to see arguments over the conflict itself spill into the RSA chambers. Increasingly, the war has been coming to us, and more and more the Emirate has been seeking to avert its consequences from our lands. Already, the war stretches from the Americas nearly to Asia. It is to our knowledge that the recent attacks in the Mediterranean are to blame for this debate, and while the Mediterranean waters are not sovereign waters of the Emirate, it is apparently within reason of the Kingdom of Kopparbergs to protest the Vineyardian strike. I am not here to stress our preferences in terms of who is and who is not in a stronger friendship with the Emirate - I am here to express our disappointment to see this come to pass.

However, having said these things, we will not accuse the Kingdom of inciting the recent exchange in Equitorial Guinea - it was the sovereign choice [ooc: yeah... :rolleyes: ] of Equatorial Guinea, and Vineyard should not protest a peaceful exchange, however serendipitous it may seem to be. Likewise, the Emirate holds no strong admonitions for the Empire of Vineyard in their war effort against the RUN - another of our distinguished allies. We recognize that Europe is not America, and yet, it is within the reason of the Empire to strike the heart of the RUN to hinder efforts in America. We would not consider it a strong option ourselves, although historical precedence has proved that it nearly always happens in such instances.

Nonetheless, the position now is whether or not to oust the Empire of Vineyard - as proposed by the Kingdom. At the moment, while valuing the friendship of the Vineyardian Empire, the Emirate is having hard quarrels to decide whether the Empire aims to preserve the stability of the Middle East or whether it values the said objective as secondary to other objectives that may or may not compromise it in other circumstances. As with Sistan, they have proven themselves - albeit through troubled times to secure their aid in Iraq, where the lingering edifices of the old Sistan regime still stand in some parts. The Emirate is considering the option, but only as a recourse to see what justification the Empire of Vineyard has to offer in their membership to the Red Sea Alliance.

That said, the Emirate does not take it lightly when a member is being proposed for expulsion or suspension - we must deliberate hard on this matter, and while the Kingdom of Kopparbergs provides us legitimate suspicions and details, we don't want to exclusively rule on their judgments. That said, the Vineyardian rebuttal does not highlight their own objectives to attain the ideals of the RSA - that is stability and peace in the Middle East - whereas they have only offered justification for their involvement in the conflict in the Americas against the RUN and the modes of their actions to secure hegemony. Vineyardian involvement in the war against RUN is not the case on trial - it is whether the Empire serves a viable role in the RSA.

We remind all members the graveness of the issue at hand, and we hope that our apprehensions to this process are well understood and appreciated. That said, Vineyard needs to provide irrefutable proof to their commitments to the RSA, aside from the obvious engagements in Iraq and Syria - the latter being mostly liberated by IDF units, having reverted control to Vineyardian positions after their own forces arrived to pacify the situation in Iraq. We have not seen any decisive commitments by Vineyard to engage in the defense of the RSA under the banner of the RSA, and if we cannot be granted sufficient evidence, confirmation, and most importantly consolation to these facts, we will be forced to operate under the minimal assumptions offered by your government to this venerable body.


The Emirate further recognizes that if Vineyard should be expelled, it is neither equivalent nor tantamount to a declaration of war. The Emirate values its friendship with the Empire, but we take it to serious concerns when our allies do not live to their obligations and their purposes.

General Mukhtar Abd-Al Qarim
Chief Delegate to the RSA - ALM

[ooc: a reminder that a suspension of an RSA member requires a 2/3 majority of those members not being suspended - and an expulsion requires unanimous consent].


SIC AS USUAL:

The Emirate further offers its support Operation: Just Cause, whatever it happens to bring for the inhabitants of the former Moorington state. However, we strongly suggest that the UCR maintain its current designation as it would complicate many matters, especially concerning the designations by international standards.

[ooc: personally, that means new names for your soccer teams among other things... I remember how long it took for people to call UE "RUN" after he was the Iberian Kingdom, after he was the Low Countries Kingdom/Confederation whatever... besides, Turkey is a constituent state of the Caucasus region, albeit minutely...]

The UCR will make no commitment to Expelling The Empire from the RSA at this time. As of now we, although being sorely disappointed with the way things have been handled in Syria and Iraq, have no reason to see them expelled, but we would like to mention that The Empire is still on the edge of explusion, it could take only a small thing to put the UCR's Vote in favor of Expulsion.

The UCR has decided after much thought and deliberation (OOC: Yea right...) that UCR will keep it's current name. But to facilitate the addtion of the New Turkish State we will be adding two new Administrative Zones, much Like the UCR and UCR-Iran Zones. The Zones will be known as UCR-Anatolia and UCR-Aegean. Invidual Republics (OOC: We call our states Republics, go figure) will be formed there after.

The Emirate inquires with what success the UCR has tamed the extremists in the former Moorington state. If need be, the Emirate can send specialized units to assist in the assimilation of Turkish territory and eliminate the extremist threat.

The UCR is happy to say that the City of Ankara is currently being assimilated. After Ankara falls, the rest of Turkey, baring Easern Thrace, should fall rather easily.

His Majesty - Emir Jalal al Misri - would like to express his concerns about the development of nuclear weapons, and their certain affects on the stability of Africa in general and their overall effect in the Middle East. Considering that three of our presently constituent members are party to the RSA, a nuclear arms race in Africa is clearly not in our interest, as it only raises our own auspices to begin development - whereas we have the capability to do so, our Emir lacks any resolve to development any annihilating devices. We are certain that this will bring about security issues, as well as economic; therefore, we must act to decide on our recourses for these circumstances.

General Mukhtar Abd-Al Qarim
Chief Delegate to the RSA - ALM

General Mukhtar Abd-Al Qarim asks the other members if they are feeling well.

Former Trade Minister Anika Townshend reports that she is feeling fine, a little bloated, but fine.

Are there any opinions on the floor currently?

The Emirate delegation wishes to offer its condolences to the Empire of Vineyard - that despite the security enforced in the Middle East - we still have extremists aiming to destroy it. That said, the Emir has been adamant about making ends with these attacks, and has asked me to call upon the RSA to retaliate against the JIHADI extremists.

Already, the Emirate has a covert program, aimed at counter-insurgency tasks. Iit has been largely successful in undermining the extremist campaign in the Emirate, having terminated about $150mil worth of JIHADI traffic in our country. Vital intelligence has proven largely useful although radically underappreciated. Furthermore, our crackdown seems to have shifted the center of JIHADI operations to the state in Moorington, from where we believe the most recent attack was planned and executed. Our forces stand ready to assist our allies in rooting out these extremists - with whatever force is needed to ensure our security. They have deliberately attacked the RSA, and though they claim to be in the ways of Allah, they do not follow the Quran and its instruction to wage Holy War, and they have been reckless in their tactics against us. They have no authority to wage this war, and we shall make due with their errors and show them Allah's way as they would never perceive it to be so.

The Emirate stands ready to expand our CTF operations - we have but to receive permission to do so from each of you.

General Mukhtar Abd-Al Qarim
Chief Delegate to the RSA - ALM

The ALM delegation wishes to confer the other members of the RSA, pending the necessity and feasibility of an alliance involving our members in a formal alliance.

[SIC of course]

The UCR Delegate also wishes to confer with ALM delegate about this alliance. With two of out members gone, what are we to do now?

The original purpose of the Alliance was to found a stable Middle East. With two of our major allies gone and a third reluctant ally, we find little reason to persist with this alliance. In its place, the Emirate still values the friendship with the United Caucasus Republics and is willing to sign a bilateral treaty of alliance.

There are other matters to consider as well:

Iran is open to conquest, and while the Emirate would be willing to take these possessions, we feel that the memory of the Sistani attacks is enough to offer assistance in the UCR conquest of Iran, after the events in Turkey are concluded. In its place, the Emirate is considering expanding into Afghanistan and Pakistan, to hold the eastern frontiers of the Middle East firmly in our grasp, but these are future plans at the moment.

There is always the problems of our Vineyardian allies - while reluctant, also valuable. How should the future of the Middle East incorporate them?

Additionally, the Emirate has recently launched its own space program, with the hopes of sustaining a domestic space program. If the UCR is aiming for the stars, we are willing to consider aid for your government in experts and finances.

We also see that the need for this alliance is severely diminished to the point of no need. Seeing how our very close allies in UARCA have seemingly died off, we are willing to invade the former Sistani lands of Iran to incorporate them into them into the UCR. We will do this a good deal of time after the Completion of our Turkish Operations. We will also support the ALM incorporation of the states of Pakistan and Afghanistan, as they have been through numerous Governments and all of them have seemingly failed after only a few years.

We also thank the Emirate for it's inclusion of the UCR in it's space program. With the loss of the UARCA and it's facilities in Kazakhstan, we are need of a space port so that we may upgrade our very few satelittes in orbit.

On to the point of the Empire of Vineyard, we are wary of them. Mostly due to their complete disregard for most RSA protocol and their hatred of RUN. We are also wary of them because of their Alliance with Great Romeo, who currently is the power in Russia, our Northern neighbor. So we leave it up to you to decide what is needed to be done about Vineyard.

Then it is resolved - between our two states - that the RSA is irreversibly stricken as a formal alliance to which either of our states are party, and in its place, we should substitute a bilateral alliance - are we correct?

Then it is resolved - between our two states - that the RSA is irreversibly stricken as a formal alliance to which either of our states are party, and in its place, we should substitute a bilateral alliance - are we correct?

Quite.

OCC: Yes, I know this is SIC and I'm not part of this alliance, but I figured that how Earth V is right now what my intentions are should be declared.

IC: General Address to all nations in what remains of the RSA.

With the collapsed of the two Kingdom of Kopparbergs, we wish to ensure our friends in what is left of the RSA, (occ: minus Vineyard of course) that the RUN will honor it's word in not interfering in the African continent nor in the Middle East. However, should any nation need assistance the various governments of the RUN will provided what it can in the form of money, food so on... to keep the remaining governments in power there stable and free. However, due to the ongoing war (occ: if it lasts?) the resources the RUN has to contribute to the area will not be much, still it wishes it's remaining friends in the area the best of luck and it's best wishes.

OCC: In simple terms-I will not invaded any country in Africa nor in the Middle East, that includes Pakistan and Afghanistan. However, I will help you guys there as best as can as it's also in my interest for there to be some sort of stability. I'm pretty happy with the land I have acquired and depending on how the war with Sharina goes, I'm done for the most part acquiring any more territory though I do have my eyes on a few pieces that are nothing more then Islands. However, I haven't decided yet if it's worth acquiring them or not. Anyway, welcome back guys. Here's hoping Earth V picks up again.

SIC reply to the RUN:

The Emirate is pleased to hear this pledge from the RUN, more especially because we feel as the inheritors of the defense of the former realm of Kopparbergs. We feel nonetheless that their fate is yet to be decided, and if we require any assistance from the RUN in policing these states, we will consult you then. In the meantime, we must discuss the potential risks of continuing the RSA. We are still glad to hear one regional player will not intervene maliciously.

SIC to Granate:

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